Haydn - "Kaiser" Quartet in C Major - Mov. 2/4

[fail213]

fml, i thougt this is a rs vid -_-

[rhidel85]

Das Bild ist sehr pass für Die Kaiserquartett 2.Satz

[davlor86]

Hitler and Nazis gave Germany a bad name

[chockn]

i know you might not answer to this.. do you have a slower, sader version... the highest pitched violing needs to cry in agony for me. and the entire movement seems more enjoyable to me when it is played slightly slower

[rve61]

This is Austrian written For the Hapsbugs of the Austrian Hungarian Empire example this was played 16 july 2011 at Archduke Otto von Hapsburg funeral .

[11para35]

Hoch Habsburg!!!

[Duffman2011TUT]

Einigkeit, und Recht und Freiheit, für das Deutsche Vaterland.

[IntelRyMSACorporatio]

@Duffman2011TUT Gott erhalte, Gott beschütze Unsern Kaiser, unser Land!

[wolffe93]

why is everybody talking about germany?

this was composed for the austrian emperor

[bluestickman1]

@wolffe93 it's because german modern anthem is based on this

[EarlyRave84]

@wolffe93

Austrians are ethnic germans.

[wolffe93]

@EarlyRave84 actually, only part of upper austria are technically germans, most of austria were slavs

also, austria gained indipendence from bavaria long ago

austria has it's own culture, history and partly own languages (although politics try everything to annihilate those languages) for example, the language in vorarlberg is no where near high german

the usa are ethnic british, spanish, portoguese, etc. but they gained independance

your arguement is invalid

[EarlyRave84]

@wolffe93

Na gut du österreichischer Polake: Die Komposition war für den österreichischer Kaiser & war Herrscher über das römische Reich "deutscher" Nation"! Dann kommst du mit dem Dreck daher, was die Deutschen damit zutun hätten. Es exestiert ja nichteinmal eine österreichische Nation. Hätte man vor dem 2ten Weltkrieg einen Österreicher befragt, was er ist, hätte er gesagt: "Ich bin deutsch"!!! habt ihr eig. schonmal gemerkt das ihr keine Nationalhymne habt, sondern eine "Bundes"hymne???

[wolffe93]

@EarlyRave84 cool story, bro

der weise neonazi hat gesprochen, sehe ich das richtig?

komm mal mim leben klar, den verein der braunen geistesschwachen gibts nimmer

[EarlyRave84]

@wolffe93

Was hat das mit Neonazi zutun? Da brauchts ihr euch schonmal garned aufregen, ihr Österreicher. Gerade Ihr habts Probleme mit den Braunen. Ich garantiere dir; würde es einen neuen Führer geben, währt ihr die Ersten, die den rechten Arm in die Luft strecken würden.

[davlor86]

@EarlyRave84 Yeah, Germany and Austria are like Argentina and Uruguay in South America, I mean same language and accent, same heritage and similar country.

[EarlyRave84]

@wolffe93

at this time, franz II was the emperor of the "HRRDN"

[PauleQueenie]

keep your lives alive for as long as you, do you hear the complaint of the violin? The violin cries on my shoulders. relief be yours for whole the music cries for being silenced. How beautifully exquisite music of peace and unity at the tips of fingers sent into the air so lightly...

[belianis]

If only THE STAR-SPANGLED BANNER had a tune as MAGISCH UND MAJESTATISCH=MAGICALAND MAJESTIC as this one ...

[ixcuincle]

DEUTSCHLAND

[popmechanic]

the germans should use only this version. and skip this marching drum-rumbling military outgrowths

[GeorgeGeef200]

I read that Beethoven's Ode to Joy is very similar to this theme... but I'm not so sure... what do you guys think?

[libralady1010]

@GeorgeGeef200 I love Ode to Joy but to my ear anyway they are not very similar.

[knuckey63]

Stunning, thank you so much for putting this up. The associations that are made with this are unfortunate and should not detract from a stunning composition.

[VanishaGlamChick6]

That´s why Haydn is my favorite!! His work with his string quartet is like seeing the face of God, a truly musicl genious!!

[ondesmartenot3]

@VanishaGlamChick6 i can not agree with you more!

sooo beautifully played, also a favorite of mine

[VanishaGlamChick6]

@ondesmartenot3 He´s a music master, now we know why Mozart liked his music so much.

I´m a music student and Haydn is by far one of my influences.

[123pelerin]

Germany truly has a beautiful anthem

[123pelerin]

Germany and Austria are so lucky; their national anthems were written by Haydn and Mozart, respectively.

does any other country have such a renowned composer as the writer of its anthem?

[ShinAkiraX]

This piece makes me happy to be alive.

[Sylfira]

God bless Germany : )

[pheonixmon1]

deserves more than 5 stars

[Justme1635438]

Best version I have heard, this is now in my favourites :)

[mikepinkertonable]

Great Performances

[giloubreizh]

Je ne sais qui interprète : CHAPEAU.

[giloubreizh]

Souvenance d'un temps où les hommes failirent être heureux. Merci de me le rappeler.

[radajan]

This is so beautiful, I can't help a few stray tears flowing...

[Zendoaut]

I listened to this piece probanly a hundred times in various executions.

This one seems the best to me as far as one can speak of a "best".

Something is very different here though I cannot put a finger on it.

What is it?

Can someone better informed about classical music than me enlighten me, please?

[HARMONICO101]

This quartet is a HIP quartet. HIP stands for Historically Informed Performance, meaning that this ensemble plays instruments modified to the state they were when they were made in the 18th century, use gut strings or metal wrapped gut strings, and play with the taste and style of the classical era (which is surprisingly different compared to today's conservatory playing style). The intention is to replicate the sound of the era, and to play in a way that would have been familiar to Haydn.

[Zendoaut]

Thank you for the information, I looked it up in the net, and now I know.

It seems to me that this performance is not only historically informed, but the members of the quartet did their performance with love for the music, which cannot be taken for granted.

But I guess they have to, because it should be very hard to reach a level on which one is able to play in this way.

Thanks for posting such kind of music.

:)

[hognoxious]

For some reason I feel an urge to stick a pointy hat on and invade Poland. Again.

[ThomasHospitaller]

Dear sir, Papa Haydn was a beloved man in his age, and a very, very nice person. Haydn happened to be quite generous and was no zealous jew-hating NSDAP member.

Please do not be so unfair and stereotypical towards people of Germanic heritage; it is really despicable and mean-spirited.

[hognoxious]

@ThomasHospitaller

Ah yes, the famous German sense of humor.

P.S. Did I say anything about Jews (note the upper case letter)? You have invaded Poland more than once, IIRC.

[TXOrchDork]

@hognoxious Still cannot see what point that comment had anyway.

[onetwothreeandmore]

@hognoxious

Who know, we have 2010?

[GermanRocket7]

@hognoxious Well, obviously you don't remember correctly.

[brianwilson49]

@hognoxious grow up. idiot.

[1hmm2]

@ThomasHospitaller Yes. There were also various Germans who opposed Nazi rule and risked their lives to save Jews and others.

[kkufner]

gott in himmel; the germans wrote the most glorious sange of the last 2 centuries. i'm so proud to be of german heritage; gott segnen uns, gott segnen deutschland!!!

[onetwothreeandmore]

Haydn war aber ein Österreicher!

[kkufner]

herr ober; so war mein grossmutter aber sie ethnie deutsch!!

[USBistDreck]

Österreich gehörte damals zum Deutschen Kaiserreich ;-)

[onetwothreeandmore]

Lernens Geschichte, Freunderl.

Grüße aus der Kaiserstadt, Wien.

[onetwothreeandmore]

Bitte lernen Sie Geschichte und bitte verzapfen's net so an Blödsinn.

Grüßeauß Wien nach Deutschland das ich sehr schätze.

[duhhh86]

i'm not german...nor austrian...but somehow i always feel rather touched whenever i hear this music.

[KommissarKvC]

actually, to add on to that Takekaze, the song 'Horst Wessel Leid' was originally just a salvation army song till its writer Horst Wessel was killed, and because he was a member of the NSDAP, they honored him in death by making his song a national song, but yes, NOT the Anthem

[wolfi31281]

Thank you for posting - our true and only anthem

A.E.I.O.U.

[aoimozart]

my favorite anthems are:

1 Russian

2 Czech

3 German

4 French

[grinpisu]

As a Romanian from Siebenbuergen, I was always thinking as this part as OUR Anthem, when our wonderful province, a wreath of nations (ein Kranz von Nationen) had actually been part of the European civilization...

[PatheticSonatas]

it's sound like fall in love. :)

[jhonwica]

aria pulita!!!!!! bello è dire poco...

[crabcakes514]

i thought it was the austrian national anthem

[onetwothreeandmore]

this is right!

[eltfell]

Yes. And after that, Haydn made this movement in the quartet out of it. Hoffmann v. Fallersleben wrote the text for the german song - and well, now it is the german anthem. Funny history.

I think the quartet "version" is best.

[Hsoshin]

No-no, my dear.

first came the quartet, then came the Austrian-Hungarian anthem, then the german (the germans had the same melody as the british before 1919).

Austria now has a pretty boring one.

[eltfell]

Nope.

February 1797 - first performance of the Kaiserlied (= Austrian anthem)

September 1797 - first performance of the Emperor's Quartet

And yes, the anthem of the german emperor (it was the prussian king's anthem, "Heil Dir im Siegerkranz") before 1919 had same melody as the british. But is was the king's and the emperor's anthem, not the german. That's a difference.

[umbraexsanguis]

germany offered them the "kaiserhymne" after the second world war - but the austrians were too dumb to take it back, because they already had a new one...and i hate it....i love this anthem...well...i think its still kinda the austrian anthem...

gott erhalte unsren kaiser franz :)

[KingofNoldors]

Viva Haydn!!! This not (only) merely the German national anthem, this is the anthem of all the free Europe that fought aginst the barbarity of the French Revolution and the tyranny of Napoleon.

[balazony]

whatever, the french anthem is good too, well not as good as this. My favourites are the English and the German and the French nthems nowadays

[matze83mz]

It is the German national anthem ;-)

[Schoenberg12]

Might be the acoustics of the place. Viva Haydn!

[HARMONICO101]

I don't think "Deutschlandlied" was the national anthem of Germany during Hitler's reign... besides... Hitler liked Wagner. :)

[Jyhwei0507]

it may have been ,actually. the now-obselete first verse:

Deutschland, Deutschland über alles, über alles in der Welt, etc. etc...

[yxcBencxy]

No, in this time the "Horst Wessel Lied" was the national anthem.

The first verse's meaning is much older. It meant the german reunification in the 18th century

[Takekaze50]

No, the Horst Wessel Lied was never national anthem of Germany.

The barbarity of the French revolution? Without that the freedom movements of 1848 would have never happened in Europe. The barbarians in Europe were the kings and emperors after all. The French revolution was harmless compared to them.

[Fenneko82]

lol, but Wagner came later ;-)

[tmbl91]

@HARMONICO101 only the first stanza of it was used, the "deutschland deutschland uber alles, uber alles in der welt" part, during the Nazi reign.

[libralady1010]

@tmbl91 And they only use the 3rd stanza now as their national anthem to keep the hegemony aspect down that so many-Russia, France and Britain in particular, believe is in their ancestry. Have no opinion one way or the other but I DO KNOW when West Germany became the Federal Republic of Germany they could use the 3rd stanza ONLY and is still true today since the reunification. No one wants a repeat of the 1st 1/2 of the 20th century

[SamThird]

@HARMONICO101

It was. The Deutschlandlied and the Horst-Wessel-Lied were together the National Anthem.

[sonata1992]

I don't know why, but it almost sounds like the players don't have control over the sound. Which is weird, because they're very very good. I guess it's in my head.

[HARMONICO101]

What do you mean specifically? It might be becuase this is being performed on period instruments in period style.

[sonata1992]

I remember you (or someone else) saying something like that on the Mozart c minor fugue post. And I don't really buy it, because I've heard plenty of extremely clear period recordings. If there weren't, I wouldn't make them the primary recordings I listen to every day.

I don't know what I meant specifically. I had the general impression listening that they sounded almost as if they were about to go out of tune at any moment. I said it's probably just in my head. shrug. sorry.

[HARMONICO101]

Okay sure. Don't have to apologize for anything. :)

[vielendankegrandmoon]

@sonata1992 I guess you are not used to authentic performances right? I suggest you buy CDs of Harnoncourt and Pinnock.

[davlor86]

Germany has a beautiful national anthem

[Ishain]

Seconded. I'm from France and I find the German national anthem to be the most beautiful of all.

[davlor86]

ok if you say so...im from Mexico and i think France has the most beautiful anthem in the world, then Germany

[istgone]

This is the tune to the German anthem,but it was originally the Austro-Hungarian anthem.

[neddneddie]

Ehm I'm Hungarian and I can dare to say this wasnt the anthem of Hungary. This may was in the Monarchy but we had our own Anthem after all. I have to admit ,we sang this back in time, in the time of Monarchy but because it was necessary :P

Anyway I like this <3 It's main theme captures my attention very, so...

[sonata1992]

He said "Austro-Hungarian."

[neddneddie]

Let me say 'The Austrian part of Austro-Hungarian;)'

How I know this was originally an 'All-German's Anthem' regardless Country.

After a time Austria changed it's Anthem.

[onetwothreeandmore]

This is the former autrian anthem, writen by schubert!

[Collinronan]

I heard this a number of years ago in a Music Appreciation class and was never able to track down the title. This evening after Dara Torres took the silver medal behind a German swimmer, I heard the German National Anthem and was finally able to locate this remarkable work.  Thank you for putting up such a clean version of this quartet.