@prantare Because delta v represents the change of the value of v from the original v(x) value (in other words, delta v = "new" v - "old" v). As delta x goes to zero, "new" v and "old" v become the same (if v is continuous at this "old" v value, by the definition of continuity), and therefore the delta v approaches zero. Make sense?
@MegaPukpui No. It will work for the proof because when lim x->0 the proof is correct. So for derivatives, it's fine if you write that way, but otherwise the mathematical proof is wrong as it won't equate for limits other than 0.
If I'm not clear enough, you are dropping a u.deltax in the proof from thin air. Remember whatever change you make to the formula, it must equate the previous formula, and it will only equate when u.deltax = 0, that is, when lim x->0.
Que se supone que está explicando..???? está demostrando saltándose pasos de álgebra como si por eso fuera a ser mejor demostración... que quiere demostrar... que sabe y que es chingón... a los estudiantes hay que poner cada paso y exponer con claridad, nadie puede asimilar eso en una clase... PÉSIMA EXPLICACIÓN
@respaldoqtz No encontre los saltos demasiado largos ni los pasos dificiles a seguir. Hay que acordarse de que la audencia intendida son estudiantes ya bastante conocidos en los metodos algebragicas.
@Jameswb98 Lastima por tí... ¿hay que recordar? se recuerda lo que se conoce y despues se olvida, a mi nunca se me informo de la capaciodad de la audiencia así que no tengo que recordar nada sobre ellos... los "metodos algebraicas" como lo escribes, creo que sé a que te refieres y no son garntía de demostración si no se profundiza en la justificación de cada acción algebraica, si no se hace esto se pueden cometer falacias muy bien disfrazadas
This guy is a substitute. He sucks. Professor Jerison is better (Prof. Mattuck is the best!). I had to look at the printed out notes from the M.I.T OCW website that I have to make sense of what he said. This has never happened with Jerison.
I think the regular professor is better! Well, I liked the way he taught the chain rule, but I didn't like the way he proved the product rule and the quocient rule.
I just liked when he explained the chain rule and higher derivatives. The rest of the explanation wasn't didactic enough and he had a lot of mistakes. I had to study by the lecture note, because I couldn't understand.
shaikfiaz, think about this. a is changing a some rate and b is changing at some rate. now you want to know how a is changing relative to b.... this might be confusing at first but think about this might help: say you have a car with velocity A, and another car with velocity B. by using the the this rule, you can determine the velocity of A relative to the velocity of B, or if you want, the other way around.... someone want to make shore im rite on this though...
This is great. I never got to learn this stuff in college so it is great to actually learn this at home in my own time which is video after video after video... Accelerated learning is great.
Can some one give me the explanation: why (dy/dt)=(dy/dx)(dx/dt)? I can see the simple algebra but of cancellation but how is it true in terms of change in x and t.
This guy is awesome! Thanks to all who uploaded all these videos for the public . YOU ALL ARE THE BEST!
I noticed fewer comments and much fewer number of views as the videos progress. Clearly, this is not for the weak. All of these mathematics videos are fantastic. Please try to upload an undergraduate Abstract Algebra video soon. I could really use a good review.
hey um..., for some reason i cant watch any of the video in the web site you posted here. Whenever i click on the video icon it just loads but never get there.
I am very happy to see the vidoe from you, hopefully the others also are happy for You Lec 4 | MIT 18.01 Single Variable Calculus, Fall 2007
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anakmudajaman 2 weeks ago 2
Cool video
keithl28 2 months ago
7 people took statistics
swampscottsoccer 2 months ago
Awesome. If I were to evaluate, I'll rate it more than excellent.
agapitoflores001 2 months ago
Can someone explain to me why delta v -> 0 as delta x -> 0? :)
prantare 2 months ago
@prantare Because delta v represents the change of the value of v from the original v(x) value (in other words, delta v = "new" v - "old" v). As delta x goes to zero, "new" v and "old" v become the same (if v is continuous at this "old" v value, by the definition of continuity), and therefore the delta v approaches zero. Make sense?
othitito 1 month ago
I wonder what happened to students on their exams when they went in not knowing the correction for u, because they were told it was for x haha.
thePENANCE 8 months ago
@thePENANCE ha ha :)
LAnonHubbard 8 months ago
Im trying to break my slacker lifestyle, and go back to school for Chem E and this is definitely making me excited.
cberns223 9 months ago
why do they laugh at the chain?
barca17 10 months ago
@barca17 "Is it because it chains you down?" asks Dr. Miller. Of course, very mature college students laugh at the secual innuendo behind it.
jeebedon 7 months ago
I think the derivative of U(x)V(x) ,we should add and substract u(x+deltax).v(x) instead of u(x) .....
MegaPukpui 10 months ago
@MegaPukpui No. It will work for the proof because when lim x->0 the proof is correct. So for derivatives, it's fine if you write that way, but otherwise the mathematical proof is wrong as it won't equate for limits other than 0.
If I'm not clear enough, you are dropping a u.deltax in the proof from thin air. Remember whatever change you make to the formula, it must equate the previous formula, and it will only equate when u.deltax = 0, that is, when lim x->0.
wrzazq 1 month ago
I think the derivative of U(x)V(x) ,we should add and substract u(x+deltax).v(x) instead of u(x) .....
MegaPukpui 10 months ago
The chain was awesome lol
SF1010 11 months ago
He actually brought a chain, lol
behnamasid 11 months ago
thank you mit, supposing i am going to donate , how can i do this from iran?
manrajabi 11 months ago
LOL... I just wanna burst free from math!!! :P
caroleabumoussa 1 year ago
29:10 I want to break free!
Darkkaz118 1 year ago 3
the higher derivative section seemed to be kind of a waste of time besides that i thought he did good
adidasguy87 1 year ago
Que se supone que está explicando..???? está demostrando saltándose pasos de álgebra como si por eso fuera a ser mejor demostración... que quiere demostrar... que sabe y que es chingón... a los estudiantes hay que poner cada paso y exponer con claridad, nadie puede asimilar eso en una clase... PÉSIMA EXPLICACIÓN
respaldoqtz 1 year ago
@respaldoqtz No encontre los saltos demasiado largos ni los pasos dificiles a seguir. Hay que acordarse de que la audencia intendida son estudiantes ya bastante conocidos en los metodos algebragicas.
Jameswb98 1 year ago
@Jameswb98 Lastima por tí... ¿hay que recordar? se recuerda lo que se conoce y despues se olvida, a mi nunca se me informo de la capaciodad de la audiencia así que no tengo que recordar nada sobre ellos... los "metodos algebraicas" como lo escribes, creo que sé a que te refieres y no son garntía de demostración si no se profundiza en la justificación de cada acción algebraica, si no se hace esto se pueden cometer falacias muy bien disfrazadas
respaldoqtz 1 year ago
MIT is the best. thank you MIT !!!
yoyaya007 1 year ago
Liked that teacher! he is funny ^^
great class \o
lucasas8 1 year ago
I love this guy, he actually shows the FULL way to do things. And his proof for the product rule is beutiful <3
yyttr4 1 year ago
Thank You MIT really appreciate what you doing.
goel1992 1 year ago 7
This guy is a substitute. He sucks. Professor Jerison is better (Prof. Mattuck is the best!). I had to look at the printed out notes from the M.I.T OCW website that I have to make sense of what he said. This has never happened with Jerison.
LogicalFlawDetector 1 year ago
The chain rule proof is incomplete without a proof about the limit of products being equal to the product of the limits.
bjim217 1 year ago
I think the regular professor is better! Well, I liked the way he taught the chain rule, but I didn't like the way he proved the product rule and the quocient rule.
Antoniocastagnoli 1 year ago
The Chain Rule: it lets you burst free!
caramonspace 1 year ago 10
This guy's great : ) thanks mit
tobuslieven 1 year ago
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I just liked when he explained the chain rule and higher derivatives. The rest of the explanation wasn't didactic enough and he had a lot of mistakes. I had to study by the lecture note, because I couldn't understand.
Antoniocastagnoli 1 year ago
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Antoniocastagnoli 1 year ago
This is helping me a lot, I think that's the way mathematics must be explained. I understand it better than in my native language...
Thks
I WOULD LIKE A COMPLETE COURSE OF PHYSICS, THAT WOULD BE GREAT...
zamaxx 2 years ago 5
@zamaxx
MIT has one. 18.01 is the physics 1 videos. I believe there is also 18.02 and 18.03
jogaserbia 1 year ago
shaikfiaz, think about this. a is changing a some rate and b is changing at some rate. now you want to know how a is changing relative to b.... this might be confusing at first but think about this might help: say you have a car with velocity A, and another car with velocity B. by using the the this rule, you can determine the velocity of A relative to the velocity of B, or if you want, the other way around.... someone want to make shore im rite on this though...
sonisucks 2 years ago
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useagle1987 2 years ago
hes "the substitute", but i sure liked how he explained that chain rule! very helpful.
henock11 2 years ago
This is great. I never got to learn this stuff in college so it is great to actually learn this at home in my own time which is video after video after video... Accelerated learning is great.
adam3141 2 years ago 4
Can some one give me the explanation: why (dy/dt)=(dy/dx)(dx/dt)? I can see the simple algebra but of cancellation but how is it true in terms of change in x and t.
shaikfiaz 2 years ago 2
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amrosik 2 years ago
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that's a dumb explanation for the name chain rule. that got an applause ?!!
3xor3 2 years ago
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LOL.. I wonder if he brought the chain especially for explaining why that derivative called a chain derivative ! It was a wrong explanation anyway!
nohyaya 2 years ago
Thanks for this MIT - a great aid for me.
wheelygood9 2 years ago 27
Thanks again to the people who put this up. I liked this guy even better though the regular guy is good.
michalchik 2 years ago 6
I've just noticed that my teacher never taught me the entire steps...just the short cuts. This is great!
felix10271 2 years ago 32
@felix10271 your teacher probably didn't know the actuall proof or derivation herself. HS teachers are often dumb anyway
gph404 1 year ago
This guy is awesome! Thanks to all who uploaded all these videos for the public . YOU ALL ARE THE BEST!
I noticed fewer comments and much fewer number of views as the videos progress. Clearly, this is not for the weak. All of these mathematics videos are fantastic. Please try to upload an undergraduate Abstract Algebra video soon. I could really use a good review.
achrispens 2 years ago 9
Ok, youtube is ridiculous with links. Let's try this
h t t p : / / w w w . u c c s . e d u / ~ m a t h / v i d a r c h i v e . h t m l
You have to sign up, but it's free and they have abstract algebra lectures.
honeybbqgrundle 2 years ago 6
Thanks sooooo much for the link. The professor is fantastic.
achrispens 2 years ago 6
hey um..., for some reason i cant watch any of the video in the web site you posted here. Whenever i click on the video icon it just loads but never get there.
keyblade134679 2 years ago
That's because you don't have the plu-in necessary for seeing the video like a flash player or a quick time player and so...
zamaxx 2 years ago
I should have mentioned that the d's are pronounced Dee:
lo dee hi minus hi dee lo square the bottom and off you go.
petersodgmailcom 2 years ago
I learned a simple "poem" to remember the quotient rule:
the derivative of hi/lo (numerator = hi, denominator = lo) is equal to:
lo d(hi) minus h d(lo) square the bottom and off you go.
1971 calc class!
petersodgmailcom 2 years ago
AGGH Brilliant. My Calc teacher forgot the last part. Now I can make the whole thing rhyme!
felix10271 2 years ago 4
Great lecture. Thank you very much!
hyperzzip 3 years ago 6