This is the exact opposite of the "American Idol" approach: DIY, true/raw emotion, being in the moment, talking about your own life experience. Relatable, human, difficult. Beauty in the rough edges.
I rember watching this on tv in 1979. Next day I was at the record store, but all their records were sold out. A few weeks later, I´d forgotten how they sounded, I found Unknown Pleasures In the record department of Woolworths by sheer chance. So I wasn´t sure wether to buy the lp or not. But then back home on the turntable a new aural world unfolded! So for a couple of years Joy Division became my absolute music gods!
I remember I got a video of this from a bootleg stall in the late 1980s - fucking hell. Too young to have seen my favourite band and my God. My blood froze when I saw this. Still one of the best TV performances I have ever seen.
@dljc1979 There is nothing out there. The band was shit, apart from from a half decent drummer. The guitars were always out of tune and the singer would best be described as an out of work bricklayer. They should be amazed that they got any further than playing small town scout halls.
@dljc1979 why would theswearingbear being an atheist be at all relevant in this situation? how would you even deduce his religious views from his comments?
@CakeySaam | the inference i am making is that atheists are soulless degenerates who are incapable of seeing the meaning in anything which is of course true!!! :)
@CakeySaam | what an odd dilemma, this then brings up the question of "what kind of atheist are you?" are you an actual soulless everything-is-random-and-meaningless-but-only-because-i-can't-deal-with-reality loony-but-composed commie atheist bent on world destruction wether you know it or not? or are you just naturally 'not into' corporate religion like any normal fucker?
@dljc1979 Well you devised a term that made you sound like an American simpleton, and you promote spiritual beliefs but you are so against what most would call defined main stream religion. You are scared of it, so you've devised your own little belief system that suits you. Judging by your language, I'd say your personal belief system is completely self serving and entails a touch or two of hatred and anger. You are a queer, queer person.
@magnetic0314 | OKAY DIPSHIT YOU CAN BE AS DELUSIONAL AS YOU WANT TO BE BUT I DON'T NEED TO READ IT!!!!!!!!! CHRISTIANITY IS A 'CORPORATE' RELIGION, IT IS NEITHER NEW OR UNUSUAL AS A DEFINITION FOR RELIGIONS LIKE CHRISTIANITY!!!!!!!!! I AM NOT A CHRISTIAN AND I AM NOT AN ATHEIST AND I HAVE NOT STATED ANY RELIGIOUS PREFERENCE AT ALL YOU DEMENTED FUCKING IDIOT!!!!!!!!! LEARN TO FUCKING READ!!!!!!!!!
@magnetic0314 | am i too 'scared' to believe in anything established? that has to be the STUPIDEST and most POINTLESS arguement for religion i have ever seen, you obviously have nothing more to offer to this 'debate' and now that i can only LAUGH AT YOU i KNOW that you have NOTHING OF WORTH TO SAY.
@dljc1979 I hope you are an American. You'd fit the stereotype perfectly. Capitalization of words out of sheer rage, misinformed and juvenile "anti-establishment" based beliefs (or mis-beliefs) and an idiocy I can barely comprehend. Should you read your statements to other users (if you are capable of looking at things from another perspective) you might see that what you have said can be interpreted differently at a glance. Regardless, I pity you, and certainly I will pray for you, brother.
@dljc1979 I think that Islam is a religion which I do not follow. Though its teachings are peaceful, so I have full respect for the people of Islam.
@magnetic0314 Nice, ignorant generalization of an entire nation. Moron. Quit assuming who/what ALL Americans are and try actually meeting some of them. Stereotypes are for the lazy and uneducated. It sounds like you can't "comprehend" much.
@magnetic0314 Speaking of "hatred" and "anger." You're doing a fine job, son. If you actually believe small mindedness and ignorance towards the religion of others is an American problem/situation, you've been living far too long with your head in the sand.
One can only hope big record companies open their eyes and let the good music flow mainstream again. It's all about capitalism nowadays. Music like this was about passion, not making loads of cash.
man, i wonder what woulda happened if ian didnt commit suicide. They easily coulda been as big as Led Zeppelin...just my opinion. with Ian's vocals and lyrics, and there very different sound
love will tear us apart was very much high on the charts in my country new zealand at the time. im kinda proud. kinda bummed they never made it to play here....not that i was born till much later, but still.... :( amazing band
18-5-1990 is when i was born.. being a life long fan of joy division threw my good ol mom.. finding out my birth date was his death date was a huge shock..
If I had one wish, it would be to have MRI imaging around in 1980 to save Ian from his epilepsy, at it had saved me. I was 42 when I began having grand mal seizures, and all the variations of seizures, the effects of medication and finally right temporal lobe surgery. I had to live with the disease for 2 years and the damage it can do not only to your health, but to your relationships and career cannot be measured.......god bless you Ian....
Maaan, I must be old if I still remember the day when I watched this on Tv, together with my friend, in his house. We were drunk, happy teenagers. Since that day JD became my favoutite and it still is untill now.
GOTHS??? WTF? they were Germanic people who invaded the Roman Empire about 1500 - 1700 years ago... slightly before this enigmatic and unsurpassed group.
I dont know the lines of resolution and frame speed youtube can offer a free account but if it's better than that of british pal in 1980, could someone upload a higher quality video of this song? maybe send it raw. 10 minutes and 2 gigs is now the new max so this tape could be sent uncompressed
the interview that brought the "goth" tab to so many bands. JD were never goth, neither the Cure, Siouxsie, Bauhaus and many more. The "goth" label was an easy term for the press to homogenize an entire spectrum of music. If you dressed in black and wrote somewhat somber songs, you were forever cast as goth. I was a fan of the new wave, granted the dark new wave, but I would never cast myself as a goth. bleck.
@tdoesntmatter, I hear ya'. But I do see JD sort of as a...primordial goth. You're right in the distinctive differences between people coming from dark places and "goth" people. But couldn't it be said that "goths" are a overlysimplified, perverted version of whatever JD is, just like modern day "rap" is of original hip-hop, and modern day pop is of maybe U2 or 80's synthpop?
I think JD was goth. Goth is an aesthetic. Stupid, simple ppl just got a hold of it and ruined it. Mainstreaming kills.
I remember this song being on the radio when I was a single-digit age. I never even knew it was Joy Division song until "Control" came out. What year did it first come out?
Frank Zappa mentioned: mainstream comes to you, always comes to the people. however the underground music is something you find or end up looking for. fuck joy division EVER being number #1 anywhere.
extended version of in a lonely place (CONTAINS IAN SINGING DELETED LYRICS) by joy division, type, ' joy division in a lonely place complete version', into you tube
Its hysterical that you seem to consider yourself such an musical expert that you can judge music this harshly. Untill you have put out something worth listening to yourself you have no say in what and what is not "amateur crap". I have no problem with people voicing their opinions about music but to fucking act that nonchalant is just disgusting.
@ pasroc -- Anything I could possibly say about your musical taste is already clearly spoken by the Riverdance videos and crappy prog band clips you have one your profile page.
make Joy Division #1 in the UK for 18-05-10, it will have been 30 years since Ian passed, push Love will tear us Apart to the top, there is a facebook group
@dj16lb It's the second or third but not the first, maybe you are confussed by the movie, when they made look like this was their first time on tv, it was in Tom Wilson's tv program but they played Shadowplay, i think the video is here on youtube.
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Fair enough. What I meant to say is that his riffs are quite basic but devastatingly effective. Dunno why I said "can't". I must have been drunk....
And I am a firm exponent of the idea that Martin Hannett was the "fifth" Joy Division member. His production work was superb and and gave the songs a highly ethereal quality.
Haha he's portrayed brilliantly in the movie "24 Hour Party People". I would have to agree with you, Joy Division wouldn't be quite right without the 'ethereal' quality you mentioned. Legendary band, unfortunately before my time.
Without question. Listen to bootlegs from early 1980 and then listen to 'Closer'. Having said that, as shambolic as some Joy Division gigs were, they were 'authentic', and thus is great art.
@codeinestation Indeed so much so that he needs to be addressed by his full title "George Martin Hannett". Joy Div and perhaps A Certain Ratio were the only Factory bands that wouldn't have sounded crap without him - but sounded so much better with his obsessive production values.
because at the time of his death he was just a singer in a minor band that only released one album less than a year ago at that point and video cameras were not nearly as ubiquitous back then.
I can only imagine what was lost. Imagine a matured band that was able to polish it's image and music. Imagine what the genre would be like if Ian had not died.
The phenom is really that JD was able to reach so many, with so little. Love will tear us apart has to be one of the most covered songs I can think of.
You were talking about "what might have been"..... New Order became the legacy of Curtis' death (with the 3 other band original band members, mind you).
New Order are not "techno"! Techno started in America, far, far away from Manchester!
(And by the way, "Yesterday" is the most covered song of all time)
New Order formed their sound during the 80's in New York City.
In America, far far from Macclesfield. So you are right, techno or "synth pop" was something New Order embraced. Whatever label you wish to place on them, I'm certain we both can agree it's not the same genre of music as Joy Division.
I highly highly doubt, that had Ian been alive at that time, that the band would have ever even thought to go that direction.
Actually Ian was the one who brought the electronic stuff to the rest of the bands attention to begin with. Kraftwork, Giorgio Moroder. Had Ian been around they probably would've went in that direction anyway. Perhaps even sooner.
I think it was every intention of the guys in New Order to be something very different than Joy Division. I think that's why it took them a few years to make it as New Order and not the band that used to be Joy Division. And while New Order did become a great band with a great following on their own. I do not believe the fulfilled the legacy of Ian Curtis. I think history would have been quite different if Ian's health didn't effect Joy Division's mark on it.
This is the exact opposite of the "American Idol" approach: DIY, true/raw emotion, being in the moment, talking about your own life experience. Relatable, human, difficult. Beauty in the rough edges.
lamarmousse 1 week ago
Wow, Sam Riley really nailed Ian's mannerisms in Control.
21YEAH21 1 week ago
I rember watching this on tv in 1979. Next day I was at the record store, but all their records were sold out. A few weeks later, I´d forgotten how they sounded, I found Unknown Pleasures In the record department of Woolworths by sheer chance. So I wasn´t sure wether to buy the lp or not. But then back home on the turntable a new aural world unfolded! So for a couple of years Joy Division became my absolute music gods!
ForARide 2 weeks ago
@ForARide wow, thanks for sharing that man :)
VamooseToGeorgia89 2 weeks ago
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A pissing match about religion? ON YOUTUBE? I am SHOCKED.
mranonam 2 weeks ago
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mranonam 2 weeks ago
subtitles in spanish please ...  Interview !!!
vladitouni 4 weeks ago
I remember I got a video of this from a bootleg stall in the late 1980s - fucking hell. Too young to have seen my favourite band and my God. My blood froze when I saw this. Still one of the best TV performances I have ever seen.
NormanArches 1 month ago
Some people might oughtta check out a concept known as "Duende"...
These guys couldn"t escape it...! cheers and chills friends
TheAdjacentFetus 2 months ago
@TheAdjacentFetus Can you link me please :)
1013637 1 month ago
@1013637 Just do a search on wikipedia. It's not the mythical creature. Its Duende (art)
TheAdjacentFetus 1 month ago
The best ever (besides The Smiths.)
LessThanJayson 3 months ago
the shame is that no one on youtube seems capable of uploading a video of these two songs that have both good audio and video!!!!!!!!!
dljc1979 3 months ago
@dljc1979 There is nothing out there. The band was shit, apart from from a half decent drummer. The guitars were always out of tune and the singer would best be described as an out of work bricklayer. They should be amazed that they got any further than playing small town scout halls.
TheSwearingBear 3 months ago
@TheSwearingBear | you must an atheist...
dljc1979 3 months ago
@dljc1979 why would theswearingbear being an atheist be at all relevant in this situation? how would you even deduce his religious views from his comments?
taylorbortnerathing 2 months ago
@dljc1979 what does being an athiest have to do with his comment?
CakeySaam 1 month ago
@CakeySaam | the inference i am making is that atheists are soulless degenerates who are incapable of seeing the meaning in anything which is of course true!!! :)
dljc1979 1 month ago
@dljc1979 not true since I'm an athiest and this is one of my favourite bands
CakeySaam 1 month ago
@CakeySaam | what an odd dilemma, this then brings up the question of "what kind of atheist are you?" are you an actual soulless everything-is-random-and-meaningless-but-only-because-i-can't-deal-with-reality loony-but-composed commie atheist bent on world destruction wether you know it or not? or are you just naturally 'not into' corporate religion like any normal fucker?
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@dljc1979 If you believe that to be true, then you clearly have missed one of the most important teachings of the religion you follow.
magnetic0314 1 month ago
@magnetic0314 | I AM NOT A FUCKING CHRISTIAN!!!!!!!! FUCK CORPORATE RELIGION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dljc1979 4 weeks ago
@dljc1979 OOOOOO corporate religion. You daft dickhead. How hypocritical.
magnetic0314 4 weeks ago
@magnetic0314 | christianity is a 'corporate' religion, where did i lose you on that you fucking degenerate?
dljc1979 3 weeks ago
@dljc1979 Well you devised a term that made you sound like an American simpleton, and you promote spiritual beliefs but you are so against what most would call defined main stream religion. You are scared of it, so you've devised your own little belief system that suits you. Judging by your language, I'd say your personal belief system is completely self serving and entails a touch or two of hatred and anger. You are a queer, queer person.
magnetic0314 3 weeks ago
@magnetic0314 | OKAY DIPSHIT YOU CAN BE AS DELUSIONAL AS YOU WANT TO BE BUT I DON'T NEED TO READ IT!!!!!!!!! CHRISTIANITY IS A 'CORPORATE' RELIGION, IT IS NEITHER NEW OR UNUSUAL AS A DEFINITION FOR RELIGIONS LIKE CHRISTIANITY!!!!!!!!! I AM NOT A CHRISTIAN AND I AM NOT AN ATHEIST AND I HAVE NOT STATED ANY RELIGIOUS PREFERENCE AT ALL YOU DEMENTED FUCKING IDIOT!!!!!!!!! LEARN TO FUCKING READ!!!!!!!!!
dljc1979 2 weeks ago
@dljc1979 Oh so you are too scared to believe in anything established. What a pussy!
magnetic0314 2 weeks ago
@magnetic0314 | am i too 'scared' to believe in anything established? that has to be the STUPIDEST and most POINTLESS arguement for religion i have ever seen, you obviously have nothing more to offer to this 'debate' and now that i can only LAUGH AT YOU i KNOW that you have NOTHING OF WORTH TO SAY.
dljc1979 2 weeks ago
@dljc1979 I hope you are an American. You'd fit the stereotype perfectly. Capitalization of words out of sheer rage, misinformed and juvenile "anti-establishment" based beliefs (or mis-beliefs) and an idiocy I can barely comprehend. Should you read your statements to other users (if you are capable of looking at things from another perspective) you might see that what you have said can be interpreted differently at a glance. Regardless, I pity you, and certainly I will pray for you, brother.
magnetic0314 2 weeks ago
@magnetic0314 | "an idiocy I can barely comprehend." you've defined yourself, tell me what you think about islam you moronic prick.
dljc1979 2 weeks ago
@dljc1979 I think that Islam is a religion which I do not follow. Though its teachings are peaceful, so I have full respect for the people of Islam.
magnetic0314 2 weeks ago
@magnetic0314 Nice, ignorant generalization of an entire nation. Moron. Quit assuming who/what ALL Americans are and try actually meeting some of them. Stereotypes are for the lazy and uneducated. It sounds like you can't "comprehend" much.
upyerrzzz1 2 weeks ago
@magnetic0314 Speaking of "hatred" and "anger." You're doing a fine job, son. If you actually believe small mindedness and ignorance towards the religion of others is an American problem/situation, you've been living far too long with your head in the sand.
upyerrzzz1 2 weeks ago
@TheSwearingBear
Troll on, fucktard.
GhibliFan1 3 months ago
@TheSwearingBear Okay, so they had a tendency to suck live.
That just means that they aren't lip-synching you fucktwit.
Piss Off and Die.
HoleHeadedLiar 2 months ago
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@HoleHeadedLiar
Piss Off and Die? That's rather harsh.
TheSwearingBear 2 months ago
@TheSwearingBear
I bet you are a bricklayer, ya cock jocky!!
garyg303 2 months ago
@TheSwearingBear Are you a fuckin* Turd? Go and listen to Bon Jovi or something and Fu*k off you knob..
leeleec79 1 month ago
peter hook comes to mexico i'll be there
ChrisIvanable 4 months ago
i remember watching this on youtube yesterday, good times.
batterycock 4 months ago 4
The interview has been badly edited,
darkdubh 4 months ago
One can only hope big record companies open their eyes and let the good music flow mainstream again. It's all about capitalism nowadays. Music like this was about passion, not making loads of cash.
UltraRockSounds 4 months ago 8
@UltraRockSounds How fucking right you are mate
Linear500 4 months ago
So many great Ian's from this time period ('80-'90) that were so influential. But this is THE Ian. Definitely.
hislove4ever7 4 months ago
3:29 <3
lizazp92 4 months ago
I was there....
WildmanBorneo 5 months ago 8
@WildmanBorneo Damn. Jealous doesn't even begin to touch it.
hislove4ever7 4 months ago 3
@hislove4ever7 This ere was the best time of my life !
WildmanBorneo 4 months ago
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@hislove4ever7 This ere was the best time of my life !
WildmanBorneo 4 months ago
@WildmanBorneo liar!
fede018 3 months ago
Joy division was way ahead of their time there was nothing like them before and there hasn't been anything like them since
jth112 5 months ago
wait - that was the interview? stephen never even spoke!!
ohfoolishworkerbee 5 months ago
thank god someone was roling the camera's back then
SCHNKHOUSE 6 months ago
When does the music start? And what is a Joy Divider?
drepmore 6 months ago
@drepmore what the fuck ? do you live in the ocean or something ? !!
mrcarepig 6 months ago
@drepmore for you, a joy divider is that lump a shit between your ears...and as far as the music...try the volume? lol
hutuguru81 6 months ago
Ian forever
stepanserdyuk 6 months ago
they were just as closed to what the doors did, then he killed himself just like a stupip fucker. I'll love them 4ever.
backbeat66 7 months ago
31 years !
daveated 8 months ago 3
Sumner ( aka Albrecht) at his finest finger work
donnybrooklads 10 months ago
wow, these are the first live performances I have ever seen that have nearly made me cry. really astounding.
VoiceintheNight 10 months ago
man, i wonder what woulda happened if ian didnt commit suicide. They easily coulda been as big as Led Zeppelin...just my opinion. with Ian's vocals and lyrics, and there very different sound
xDeadMisfitsx 10 months ago
love will tear us apart was very much high on the charts in my country new zealand at the time. im kinda proud. kinda bummed they never made it to play here....not that i was born till much later, but still.... :( amazing band
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rickysolomon 1 year ago
ian curtis is legend
ilovecolonybmx 1 year ago 7
@ilovecolonybmx and Legends never die !
elektricar122 10 months ago
11 people have lost Transmission
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StefanKiessling11 1 year ago
18-5-1990 is when i was born.. being a life long fan of joy division threw my good ol mom.. finding out my birth date was his death date was a huge shock..
THExViCExSHOW 1 year ago 2
Fuck facebook
NeshaV8 1 year ago 48
@NeshaV8
Totally mate,that bullshit and Twatter are the modern curses of today.
abagail4me 11 months ago
ha ha. funny how tony says 'gothic'. What did he unleash on the world with that off the cuff comment?
Stube437 1 year ago 3
Very Interesting. Love this band.
Brendastonegirl 1 year ago
amazing!
killingflea 1 year ago
10 people deserve to die, Ian is god.
kanesk807 1 year ago
@kanesk807  11
012greenej 1 year ago 2
If I had one wish, it would be to have MRI imaging around in 1980 to save Ian from his epilepsy, at it had saved me. I was 42 when I began having grand mal seizures, and all the variations of seizures, the effects of medication and finally right temporal lobe surgery. I had to live with the disease for 2 years and the damage it can do not only to your health, but to your relationships and career cannot be measured.......god bless you Ian....
MrKos1995 1 year ago 9
Maaan, I must be old if I still remember the day when I watched this on Tv, together with my friend, in his house. We were drunk, happy teenagers. Since that day JD became my favoutite and it still is untill now.
grafiene 1 year ago 4
POST PUNK! The goose bumps i get when Ian goes crazy is unexplainable.
RIP Ian, Forever in our Ears!!!!
mxwhitty 1 year ago 3
@mxwhitty And in our hearts! I love him!!
TheRoseanne58 1 year ago
he's quite sexy. in a creepy way.
pirateXsatellite 1 year ago
GOTHS??? WTF? they were Germanic people who invaded the Roman Empire about 1500 - 1700 years ago... slightly before this enigmatic and unsurpassed group.
SPERANZA65 1 year ago 2
Ian Curtis doesnt try to dance
Dance tries to Ian Curtis
jerzy862 1 year ago 76
@jerzy862 No one has ever explained it better!!
katkakon 1 year ago
@jerzy862 lol
dvzqz87 1 month ago
@jerzy862 Greatest. Comment. EVER!!!!
dkthg 3 weeks ago 2
epileptic dance ftw
DilbertHernandez 1 year ago
I dont know the lines of resolution and frame speed youtube can offer a free account but if it's better than that of british pal in 1980, could someone upload a higher quality video of this song? maybe send it raw. 10 minutes and 2 gigs is now the new max so this tape could be sent uncompressed
lifepod2036 1 year ago
WARSAWWWWW
UltimateVenom 1 year ago
was that evidently chickentown at the end of transmission? hahaa
georgiavoce 1 year ago
the interview that brought the "goth" tab to so many bands. JD were never goth, neither the Cure, Siouxsie, Bauhaus and many more. The "goth" label was an easy term for the press to homogenize an entire spectrum of music. If you dressed in black and wrote somewhat somber songs, you were forever cast as goth. I was a fan of the new wave, granted the dark new wave, but I would never cast myself as a goth. bleck.
tdoesntmatter 1 year ago 4
@tdoesntmatter, I hear ya'. But I do see JD sort of as a...primordial goth. You're right in the distinctive differences between people coming from dark places and "goth" people. But couldn't it be said that "goths" are a overlysimplified, perverted version of whatever JD is, just like modern day "rap" is of original hip-hop, and modern day pop is of maybe U2 or 80's synthpop?
I think JD was goth. Goth is an aesthetic. Stupid, simple ppl just got a hold of it and ruined it. Mainstreaming kills.
Sudhish86 1 year ago
I WISH I WAS THERE
lamfrocks 1 year ago 3
Cool as fuck..
andy7666 1 year ago
I remember this song being on the radio when I was a single-digit age. I never even knew it was Joy Division song until "Control" came out. What year did it first come out?
fucknametheives 1 year ago
great version of shes lost control, love the higher tempo
GoinDownToJunkieTown 1 year ago
"JOY DIVISION YOU CUNT"
MrDildoBagginsIII 1 year ago 6
wtf does it cut away at 5.31 !!
MattyBhoyNumeroUno 1 year ago
thom yorke sako el estilo del ian curtis fo sho!
sabo99 1 year ago
Frank Zappa mentioned: mainstream comes to you, always comes to the people. however the underground music is something you find or end up looking for. fuck joy division EVER being number #1 anywhere.
BagpipeHustler 1 year ago
@BagpipeHustler Now that's the truth. Though I wouldn't mind if a friend had
introduced/shared JD with me. Frank Zappa qouted on a JD page...seems right.
PiotrpLUM 1 year ago
Hooky looked 40-odd back then! lol
GanEdenAustralia 1 year ago
this has got to be the best video on youtube
piguitit0 1 year ago
there should be rules against people committing suicide. like "don't committ suicide or your family will be tortured" or something like that....
i wonder what curtis would have looked like today..
emokidrell 1 year ago
@emokidrell I'm guessing a more pale version of Bernard.
buildgod93 1 year ago
@emokidrell
fuck off he did what he wanted to do and noone can blame him
psike5000 1 year ago
@emokidrell Suicide has already BEEN a crime.
jrmetmoi 1 year ago
it annoys me that they cut away from ian at 6.42 wen hes fuckin dancin
MattyBhoyNumeroUno 1 year ago 7
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birdandthe 1 year ago
Looks like a young Pete Doherty...............Sounds twice as good
cassadra1992 1 year ago
Legend .
FrerardBigFan 1 year ago
Too much attention goes to the suicide. The music is just fucking amazing. Transmission gets me every time.
Hasselnorris 1 year ago
I cant believe it nearly 30 years. Where has that time gone. JD a sad loss but still sound great
dimension08 1 year ago
"Now we're going to talk about the music we hear on the radio."...
Droyd21 1 year ago
the drummer is f*cking amazing, what gr8 musicianship and emotional commitment, what a gr8 band!
memyselfandeye3 1 year ago 6
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arcadeanimalsonfire 1 year ago
Bono got a personal search engine to look up his name in youtube comments and goes around picking up on state of minds
arcadeanimalsonfire 1 year ago 2
@arcadeanimalsonfire well i hope hes seen the title of bone-head
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God, and they made money with that amateur crap !?
Was the end of the seventies such a bad time ?
pasroc 1 year ago
Its hysterical that you seem to consider yourself such an musical expert that you can judge music this harshly. Untill you have put out something worth listening to yourself you have no say in what and what is not "amateur crap". I have no problem with people voicing their opinions about music but to fucking act that nonchalant is just disgusting.
PullingTeeth1 1 year ago 3
fuck you dude!!
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spittingoutteeth 1 year ago
@pasroc Crap ? Good Lord, you must have the sensitivity of a wooden plank
kiribula 1 year ago
make Joy Division #1 in the UK for 18-05-10, it will have been 30 years since Ian passed, push Love will tear us Apart to the top, there is a facebook group
dionysus81085 1 year ago 105
why that song they have much much better ones
matbellers 1 year ago
@matbellers This was the bands first TV appearance so they would not have had their full repetoir of songs written
dj16lb 1 year ago
@dj16lb what are you talking about? i said to that guy why pick love will tear us apart for a number 1 when they got better songs than it
matbellers 1 year ago
@dj16lb no,it was their 3rd tv performance(and their last)-granada was first (end of 1978)this was in september 1979
caro1995gitaar 1 year ago
@dj16lb their first TV appearance was with Shadowplay
sinnvollproductions 1 year ago
@dj16lb It's the second or third but not the first, maybe you are confussed by the movie, when they made look like this was their first time on tv, it was in Tom Wilson's tv program but they played Shadowplay, i think the video is here on youtube.
See you.
sas147741 1 year ago
@sas147741 I meant Tony Wilson.
sas147741 1 year ago
dance, dance, dance, dance (8)
VomitandoConejitos2 2 years ago 6
30 years already......
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closetomodernmusic 2 years ago
why does it say new order across the screen at one time? it was like a BBC thing but i think thats kinda ironic haha
gnarlycorinne 2 years ago
i just think its very sad that ian had lots of people around him yet he felt so alone. A great band legendry.
surfpuppet 2 years ago
recpect
KYKLOPAS1234 2 years ago
It's beauty and tragedy. He is our Buddy Holly.
350125Stay 2 years ago 4
Aww.What a strange yet sweet thing to say!.I Agree.
I think Ian was overwhelmed.Understatement!
ShallowBushGraves 2 years ago 3
I wish more people played guitar like this. Yeah, yeah. I know he can't play that well, but sounds great.
bangkokaaron 2 years ago 3
Fuck that, I think Bernard Sumner is underrated. He made some awesome but really simply riffs for Joy Division.
He pretty much was JD, it was his band before Ian. And you cant deny his synth skills either.
Really they are all very fine musicians.
My favorite Bass player and Drummer played in Joy Division.
JonnyCapricorn 2 years ago 7
Fair enough. What I meant to say is that his riffs are quite basic but devastatingly effective. Dunno why I said "can't". I must have been drunk....
bangkokaaron 2 years ago 2
The riffs certainly got Ian going!
fingaherby 2 years ago
lol. Indeed they did.
bangkokaaron 2 years ago
And I am a firm exponent of the idea that Martin Hannett was the "fifth" Joy Division member. His production work was superb and and gave the songs a highly ethereal quality.
codeinestation 2 years ago 11
Haha he's portrayed brilliantly in the movie "24 Hour Party People". I would have to agree with you, Joy Division wouldn't be quite right without the 'ethereal' quality you mentioned. Legendary band, unfortunately before my time.
tremorinmysoul 2 years ago
Without question. Listen to bootlegs from early 1980 and then listen to 'Closer'. Having said that, as shambolic as some Joy Division gigs were, they were 'authentic', and thus is great art.
jstuartbrennan 2 years ago 2
Agreed. The best examples in my mind are the live performances on "Still".
codeinestation 2 years ago
@codeinestation especially Closer
Arthounot 2 years ago
@codeinestation Indeed so much so that he needs to be addressed by his full title "George Martin Hannett". Joy Div and perhaps A Certain Ratio were the only Factory bands that wouldn't have sounded crap without him - but sounded so much better with his obsessive production values.
mrj8239 2 years ago
@JonnyCapricorn Yeah a supergroup, where would U2 be without ther main singer?!
handsomedevil98 2 years ago
@handsomedevil98 What does U2 have to do with any of this?????????????????????/ Love them both anyways but you have no vollocks
gunnerglory 2 years ago
bono said he wanted to be the next ian curtis. that's why U2 always comes up
DankeRainer 1 year ago
he will never be ian curtis
steve20593 1 year ago 10
hell nooooo
DankeRainer 1 year ago 2
@DankeRainer thats nuts!!
nuke97 1 year ago
Cant belive that he didnt do drugs
steffo1 2 years ago
He does a little... I would like to say "when he was younger" but in fact he never been older...than very, very young.
SadLisa777 2 years ago
Best drummer ever!
DeadWhiteButterflies 2 years ago 2
why isnt there any footage of ian talking on camara?
indietone14 2 years ago
because at the time of his death he was just a singer in a minor band that only released one album less than a year ago at that point and video cameras were not nearly as ubiquitous back then.
scwt89 2 years ago 3
thanks man
indietone14 2 years ago
y'know New Order had a song called "WORLD IN MOTION"
Quite strange lyrics " This is the masterplan, this aint a football song."
New World order in motion?
Maybe they are being controlled?
gazwilwah 2 years ago
iam sorry for ian he has epilebsi and he kill him self -.-
MasterMav1 2 years ago
I can only imagine what was lost. Imagine a matured band that was able to polish it's image and music. Imagine what the genre would be like if Ian had not died.
The phenom is really that JD was able to reach so many, with so little. Love will tear us apart has to be one of the most covered songs I can think of.
losghost 2 years ago 3
I think you'll find it was called New Order :)
nothugsinourhouse 2 years ago
New order was nothing like JD.  Techno was about as far removed from this genre as possible.
losghost 2 years ago
You were talking about "what might have been"..... New Order became the legacy of Curtis' death (with the 3 other band original band members, mind you).
New Order are not "techno"! Techno started in America, far, far away from Manchester!
(And by the way, "Yesterday" is the most covered song of all time)
nothugsinourhouse 2 years ago
New Order formed their sound during the 80's in New York City.
In America, far far from Macclesfield. So you are right, techno or "synth pop" was something New Order embraced. Whatever label you wish to place on them, I'm certain we both can agree it's not the same genre of music as Joy Division.
I highly highly doubt, that had Ian been alive at that time, that the band would have ever even thought to go that direction.
losghost 2 years ago
Actually Ian was the one who brought the electronic stuff to the rest of the bands attention to begin with. Kraftwork, Giorgio Moroder. Had Ian been around they probably would've went in that direction anyway. Perhaps even sooner.
dafydd28 2 years ago
Exactly. Unfortunately, we can only dream of Ian Curtis singing "Blue Monday."
Gilgamesh149 1 year ago
I think it was every intention of the guys in New Order to be something very different than Joy Division. I think that's why it took them a few years to make it as New Order and not the band that used to be Joy Division. And while New Order did become a great band with a great following on their own. I do not believe the fulfilled the legacy of Ian Curtis. I think history would have been quite different if Ian's health didn't effect Joy Division's mark on it.
pdlost991 2 years ago
They could possibly be the greatest band of all time if Ian hadn't killed himself and Joy Division lasted throughout the 80's.
bigdunk9 2 years ago
No. They would have degenerated. All bands do with time. Ian Curtis only ever wanted to make one album anyway
finnan0333 2 years ago
Not necessarily, few bands haven't. Closer was just asï»