Pavarotti reaches the whole world, crossing music styles. WE have musicians like Bono from U2 singing with him when he was alive, and Sting (Police) singing with him as well. He was respected by people like Aretha Franklin. No other Opera singer in the world at any time was able to reach so many with the voice. He went beyond Opera and became a singer that moved more then people who were just sold on one style.
There will always be some who will find "something" to pick to.
As a singer I know how difficult a profession it is. And Luciano was cetainly the best. Yes, he was more involved when a conductor inspired him, but the sheer line, diction, liquidity of tone, clear focused sound and the incredible top made him a phenomenon, not the later arena concerts. As a whole he was incredible, in one line with Caruso, though different of timbre.
Pavarotti is at the top of my list of tenors of all time. No one, absolutely no one has his richeness, warmth and "ping". Was he a convincing actor? Was he the musician Domingo is? No, on both counts. Who cares? Pavarotti's voice was peerless and one for the ages.
I love him singing lighter, more lyric rep. It's his heavier darker roles that I find don't compare as well against his peers. Still, he had the immense mastery and incredible voice to pull off both light and heavy rep, which must be commended even if I personally believe the light rep was where his mastery lay.
akways on pitch -- tone always the same from top to bottom[what bottom he had] --Very melodic singer with a wonderful vocal quality and sound -Sang with a freedom,,abandon and indomitable spirit- Truly an exceptional tenor voice - A very distinctive voice; easy to pick out-- Certainly one of the 5 best EVER!
I heard Pavarotti live many times. The very first time I heard him he lost his voice on stage. Adler made him go on sick. He wasn't world famous then.
He was as good as they say, but not quite as good as some others. Kraus was better as Nemorino. Aragall was a better Cavardossi. Same production and same seats.
Domingo was always better - warmer voice, better acting, better musicianship, and a better top (shorter of course). Carreras sang so beautifully I cried. Pavarotti never moved me.
If he's not even the best one. He's in ligue of his own! What Pavarotti has done is a masterpiece, listen his recordings and will see what he deserve: the voice, phrases, line - without peer!
Bjoerling, Bergonzi,and so-on are perfect singers, but Pavarotti went beyond their achievements, don't remember only that huge man who sang at the stadiums, nevertheless that even there he made some things, which one could get shivers.
The phenomenal beauty of his voice cannot be denied, and his technique was extraordinary. I heard him at his Carnegie Hall recital debut- and it was unforgetable! Pavarotti certainly deserves to be listed among the 100Greatest! thank you.
I'm a little taken aback. I've never been a big Pavarotti fan-- always thought he was quite overrated. But, my goodness, if he had always sounded like this, I would change my tune! This, to me, has musicianship and expression that-- forgive me-- I don't think came through in the later years. He always seemed to me to be a rather static, oversized, nice high note-producer and not much else. I wonder why that is, since hearing him in this recording I'm quite impressed?
Luciano Pavarotti fue el mas grande tenor de los ultimos 30 años, por su hermosa voz y ademas por su gran carisma. Pero lejos de ser el mejor fue y disculpen el atrevimiento para la segunda parte del siglo 20 y inicios del 21 el que atrajo mas que nadie a los jovenes y a la gente a la opera, como lo fueran en el pasado Caruso y Gigli.
@lpizzella Muy cierto: hermosa voz y gran popularidad; pero estás cualidades son son suficientes, la técnica no estaba depurada y según pasaba el tiempo fue cayendo en demasiados tics en sus interpretaciones. En cualquier caso en la primera parte de su carrera fué el mejor Rodolfo, y uno de los grandes belcantistas.
Not to mention millions of people who find him to be the greatest of all time. So, it would be unfair to reduce his greatness only on media project - by the way media can be right as well, they are not wrong by definiton.
'' ... he was incredibly over-rated and falsely portrayed as the greatest of all time by the media''. We can discuss on Pavarotti being overated and falsely portrayed as the greatest of all time but the same ''false'' statements can be heard not only by media but by conductors, singers and critics as well. For instance, Alagna called him the Messiah of tenors and Calleja said there were only two tenors in the 20th century that surpass the rest - Caruso and Pavarotti.
Congratulations on the music choice. This is to the most iconic part in Pavarotti's career. People talk about Nessum Dorma... but not only Puccini isn't nowhere near my favorites but also his work is not the best canvas in which Pavarotti could paint how great he was.
The young Luciano (as in this aria) was absolutely spectacular and certainly deserves to be at the very top of this list. I don't necessary like the later "Hollywood" like shows.
By Luciano everything is right, the voice of the broadcast. In his fascinating interpretations I feels his personage. There will be no give second a Luciano. This aria, I also have to complete recording on CD and if I'm drive with my car and then heard this aria I switch my radio as loud as it can only be done so that all may this unique music and this wonderful tenor can hear, Luciano Pavarotti ..
you guys are naming all the lyric tenors. what about Corelli. he might not be as "pretty" but his voice could blow Pavarotti's house down any day of the week.
@raigekimaru Loud is not necessarily good. Corelli had a wonderful natural voice, and an incredible range from ff to pp, and sang with good emotion, but he was not easy to listen to. So stentorian at times, and his voice sounded forced (even though, I am told, it was not). Gorgeous color, though.
@raigekimaru Oh I totally understand -- Corelli is so thrilling at times, and indeed tempestuous. I do lean toward the lyric/dramatic tenors, probably because that was my Dad's fach, and I love the repertoire. It's great that people have a range of tastes, because that means more opportunity for more singers. It's all good.
I guess I'm also sorta biased having a big powerful voice myself. usually I like a nice dark dramatic baritone, like the kind you would hear as a preacher at a black church. as far as female voices, I like just about everything from bright, innocent leggiero soprano to deep, dark, sexy mezzo (although my favorite female voice would have to be dramatic coloratura). female voices are more soothing and easy to listen to. good male voices are rare. good female voices are common =)
@raigekimaru - Now that's ironic; I'm a lyric coloratura, so I'm a little biased toward my repertoire -- Strauss, Donizetti, etc. I don't know if female voices are more soothing, esp. since some can rather shriek, but those dark honey mezzo voices are definitely calming to the ear. I love tenors, but I think my favorite male voice is the baritone, but then again, maybe I just have the hots for Erwin Schrott ;)
well, I like younger guys, so operatic male voices are too "manly" and "mature" for me to have the hots for them. my all time favorite singer is Dame Joan Sutherland and her earth shattering high Ds, Ebs and Es
@raigekimaru I kind of wonder what you really like in the field of opera? Do you like the music, or are you after the voice in itself, perhaps like kind of..a stimulation?
I like the voice, the charisma and the strength and passion. I like the music because it is a medium for these things to travel through, but I really could care less about the words or the storyline ^v^
I sing opera and I can understand how was Pavarotti´s voice. When I hear him sing its like hear the perfection... His voice was a gift from GOD. Cheers for Luciano ¡¡¡
La verdad es que para mí la Opera tiene un antes y un después....LUCIANO PAVAROTTI es la voz más MARAVILLOSA que nunca oí... Jamás volverá a haber otra igual. Los otros fueron buenos, pero ¡¡¡ Luciano es de otra galaxia ¡¡¡ Lamento no haber podido verte en vivo en Chile, pero tu voz quedará por siempre. Edgardo Azzarelli - CHILE
Pardon me peeps... but I don't think it's nice to call a man who became a household name and did so much for expanding opera's audience a "sell-out". Pavarotti is one of the all-time greatest. If his talents gained him financial prosperity and he exploited that somewhat...who cares? He's a terrific artist and is the reason many of us began listening to opera in the first place.
You can discuss how much you want, but Pavarotti is sharing the opera throne along with Caruso and so it is. We'll wait long, long time to be blessed with such a voice again...
@Jeanne90275 I agree with you totally. The high C's are just icing on the cake, and I hate that any singer's voice is judged solely on the quality/consistency of his high notes. Pavarotti had a beautiful color, great technique and wonderful resonance. It's so easy to listen to him (but he's not 'easy listening' :;) )
I agree but not quite! I think in general, and especially in the beginning is the most Grendi Pavarotti tenor of the century, but artists such as Corelli are significant "artistic" maybe more! however, it is true that all future content will be confronted with him, and Florez, will not arrive at his level because his voice will never support the roles that supported Pavarotti!
I agree. He far from over-rated. The man was a vocal genius. Who cares if he "sold out." I love his voice. It is one of the most beautiful of the twentieth century.
this opera is under performed. ok it's light..but sometimes we need that. i am so glad florez re-introduced it. i love this performance. thank you for choosing this aria.
Too bad that all these artists aren't alive today, with modern technology. Hard to make comparisons when some of the older recordings don't do the artists justice.
Ohne jeden Zweifel zu dieser Zeit der beste Tenor seiner Zeit. Mit einer Stimme ausgestattet wie kein zweiter. Und dazu konnte er diese Stimme auch einsetzen und benutzen. Ein großer Tenor, mit einer hellen, klaren Stimme. Ideal für die frühen Verdi Rollen und Puccini! Sein Rodolfo ist gewiß ein absoluter Höhepunkt! Ebenso wie sein Ah! Mes ami....Jeder Nachfolgende muß sich an ihm messen...und wird verzweifeln!
Ich stimme aber nicht ganz! Ich denke, im Allgemeinen und insbesondere in der Anfangsphase ist die Grendi Pavarotti Tenor des Jahrhunderts, sondern Künstler wie Corelli erhebliche "künstlerische" vielleicht mehr! aber es ist wahr, dass alle künftigen Inhalte mit ihm konfrontiert werden, werden und Florez, nicht auf seiner Ebene zu gelangen, weil seine Stimme nie die Rollen, die unterstützt Pavarotti Unterstützung!
I am in agreement about most of those included in the 100 Greatest listing, but must insist room be made for Manuel Ausensi, the greatest Spanish baritone, and the marvelous Apollo Granforte.
When Pavarotti is his best he beats Domingo like anything, but Domingo does not lisp, he sings wonderful always. They are both among the truly greats.
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Actually Domingo in his best equals Pavarotti vocally and he was always a better actor and musician.Plus he sang far more significant roles.Seriously,operas like Fille du Regiment,Elisir d'amore,I Puritani,La Boheme,L'amico Fritz sound like operetas compared to operas such as Don Carlos,Lohengrin,Otello,Aida,Carmen,Les troyens,Faust,Les contes d'Hoffmann,Samson et Delilah,Die Walküre,I Vespri Siciliani...
Don't kid yourself, Domingo could never touch Pavarotti's vocal ability. Domingo's voice was flawed throughout his career, he started by weighting the bottom and middle of his voice too much: this led to the flawed legato and hoarse jumps to the upper register. It's noticeable that he corrected this flaw in the early '80s, but by this time his top was nasal and hoarse. Imperfection for the duration of his career, that was Domingo's voice.
@Mooorhe Didn't Domingo start out as a baritone? That might explain his tension in the high range. He may have still felt that these notes were a stretch, even though he had switched fachs.
This is my pesonal feeling of Carreras. He is a very "musical" I mean he knows what's he is doing and that's a problem with me, He never gives me goosbumps.
He is coached perfectly but it doesn't come from his heart, so he is faking in a away. That's what I mean by not honest:)
That's my opinion(he has a great voice, though but I liked him more in a liric repertoir.
I know this is considered THE Pavarotti performance, but my favorite selection in his entire discography is Tonio's other aria in "Fille." I judge my tenors not by how loudly they make the chandeliers rattle with their high C's, but how much heart & soul they can pour into a tender little romanza like "Pour me rapprocher de Marie." or "Quanto e bella." And when the tenor is Pavarotti doing both as only he could, this listener is in "hochheiligen Paradies!"
@bobzeschin I agree. The tender arias are more difficult, and show vocal flaws more readily, since one has to maintain legato, sing softly and with nuance, and sustain an emotion throughout. Pavarotti was wonderful singing the 'romanzas' as well as the show pieces.
My farewell appearance as a Met super in Detroit was in the legendary 1972 "Fille," and when the time came for this aria, half the chorus--who were normally dead on their feet after six weeks on the road--came out of their dressing rooms to stand in the wings and silently "clock" off the 9 high C's with their fingers as if they were the last few seconds of a Super Bowl game. Can anyone have had a greater tribute from co-workers who had heard every star singer of the postwar era?
Well, in Motown that night, he held it long enough for the jaws to drop on half the chorus, and the rest to shake their heads in amazement. Oddly enough, next morning neither Detroit paper mentioned The End Of An Era in Met supering. (Old hands still talk about the way I ran down the temple stairs in Act 3 of "Aida" when Ramfis yelled "Guarda!) They just went on and on and on about Pavarotti and some Australian woman whose name escapes me at the moment.
Forgive me for not recalling offhand, but when you get Leontyne Price as Aida, Franco Corelli as Radames, & Rita Gorr as Amneris, it's hard for a Ramfis to adhere to the brain for four decades.. They brought "Aida" to town several times during my halcyon days, so there were probably two or three different Ramfi. If you feel like making the effort, check the Met website's incredible archives for all the Detroit "Aida" performances between 1963 & 1972. For some reason, my name doesn't appear.
@bobzeschin - Thanks. Of course, "Ramfis" is the character's name , and you just meant that you had not memorized ever guy who sang the role over the years -- I wasn't reading very carefully. BTW, Ramfis is an Egyptian name, yes? I believe you are pluralizing it as if it were Latin, but in that case the plural of Ramfis would still be Ramfis with a macron over the 'i'. (3d declension). (Am I pretentious or what?! ) ;)
In my opinion he had the best vocal technique of anyone ever. No passagio's, never a note that didn't have spin and such a natural energy to the voice. His voice is exciting! It makes one glad to be involved in opera music! He's one of my three favorite tenors (the other two being Wunderlich and Tucker).
Great technique tone and phrasing ..deserves to be on any list of great voices ...miles ahead of Jose [who isn't??] and Placido IMO Certainly Luciano is the greatest tenor by far who made their debut in the 1960s
Well, lot's of singers had what could probably be called "perfect" technique- so can you call Pavarotti's technique better than "anyone ever?" I personally don't think so, but suffice it to say his technique was virtually unsurpassed, and he more than deserves a place in the top 100. :-)
@Iareto Well, actually, he had a passagio, as we all do, but he finessed it so well, with great technique, that we only hear effortless sound. I agree -- spin, natrual energy, great color. And I agree about Wunderlich and Tucker, and would add Bjorling to the mix.
Well , this recording is just phantastic, but I must say that unfortunatelly I didn't hear any recording live of him singing tthis. There is one here on Youtube, but it's lower, so it's not anymore high C's
I was kind of hoping for a video that would have a complete list of all 100 and not just one video of the number one. Oh, his is and always will be the king.
This list was my first intention when I began with this project. But I received many comments just as: "Can´t wait who´s coming next!" And so I think, most YouTube-users like to get a surprise!
Gran tenor, en sus primero años y siempre y cuando estuviese bien dirigido. Cuando no tenia detrás un gran director, era tosco, inexpresivo y mediocre. Además en escena era un saco de patatas gigante.
De cantantes de opera, amigo mio, y la opera tiene dos partes: música y teatro. Que demasiados cantantes sean sacos de patatas en escena no quiere decir que no sea un defecto. Que aprendan de Plácido Domingo, que es un estupendo actor. Y tambien discrepo en lo vocal. Desde luego, tenia casi tantas facultades como Fleta, por eso da rabia que no las aprovechase totalmente por ser un musico mediocre. En el repertorio que compartían, Kraus, con peor voz, era mucho mas fino y expresivo.
Le iba a decir muy bien hablado hasta que la cagó, kraus tenia peor voz? que dice?
el sonido de la voz no da la calidad de una voz ni menos e trabajo o el preducto, me decepciona que hoy en dia se siga hablando sin conocimientos de estilos de canto y tecnica, que kraus tenia peor voz que luacino? bueno que le guste a usted menos no quita que kraus hizo bajo mi punto de vista una mas humilde y prodigiosa carrera.
Seguramente no debería haber puesto "peor voz", si no timbre menos atractivo, lo que no quiere decir que considere feo el de Kraus. Los tenores Spinto como Pav. suelen tener mayor brillantez tímbrica que las voces más ligeras, como la de Kraus. Por lo demás, gustándome realmente mucho Pav., creame que en el repertorio que compartían, escucho a Kraus con más agrado por su elegancia, su sentido del legato, su variedad de recursos estilisticos, su fraseo perfecto... ¿Debo seguir?
además tampoco acierta usted en decir que suelen tener mas brillantez timbrica, la brillantez es exepcion de los dramaticos pues hay por lo general brillantez en las voces en las que los resonadores de las cavidades de la cabeza se emplean bien, lo que pasa es que en el caso de kraus él no tenia una voz rica en armicos pero por ejemplo le puedo nombrar a unos unos cuantos ligeros- leggeros que tienen mas brillantez que muchos liricos.
Pav. cantó, sobre todo de joven, papeles que piden tenor lírico puro, y posteriormente pasó a papeles veristas que piden un spinto, y hasta Otello o Trovatore, que piden un dramático. Respecto al timbre, claro que hay líricos puros que destacan por él. Wunderlitz, por ejemplo, pero muchos grandes líricos, como Schippa o Blake no tienen bellísimos timbres. Esto se considera virtud más extendida entre los lírico-spinto: Pav.,Carreras,Bjöling,Fleta,Aragall,...
Vamos a ver si nos entendemos señor mio, que un cantante tenga la poca delicadeza de cantar cosas que no van acorde con su tipo e voz no quiere decir qeue su voz pertencezca a es estilo peculiar, luciano era un tenor lirico puro, que le vamos a hacer si al igual compo domingo pero n tan ezagerado quiso probar en otras cosas? yo apoyo a los tenores que se especializan dentro de sus posibilidades, sino al final la voz cambia y uno sale perjudicado, miren e ejemplo de kraus, solo cantó 24 operas.
No pretendo ser un especialista, pero por lo que tengo entendido, "spinto" es más bien una técnica que un tipo de voz: el cantante "spinge", empuja la voz con la glotis, y eso hace que salga más potente,sobre todo en el agudo, como piden los papeles veristas sobre todo, pero con menos flexibilidad para apianarse o hacer agilidades. Entiendo que Pav. usaba esta técnica incluso en los papeles más líricos, y por eso suena mas tosco que Kraus, que se apoyaba más en los resonadores craneales.
Bueno, le comento, spinto, lirico, dramatico, etc son caracteristicas de la voz de tenor, cuando un varon alcanza el desarroyo vocal entonces se determina con unas audiciones la tendencia del color, brillo y demas caracteristicas timbricas y sonoras, un tenor spinto es aquel que por naturaleza tiene mayor pontencia que el lirico, por regla general, pero utilizar el temino spinto tambien en canto nos referimos a una extra utilizacion de la glotis al cantar como usted menciona.
siguiendo con la explicacion de spinto, la forma mas sana de cultivar una buena salud vocal es sin duda la de kraus, no por el ejemplo de lingevidad que nos dio, sino por escoger meticulasamente el repertorio olvidandose de ser divos o tarjetas de credito andantes, respiracion costal-difragatica, tecnica de la antigua escuela de canto, usar en su extremo los resonadores craneaes etc, spinto no es una tecnica, es la caracteristica de la voz de tenor.
Por lo que tengo entendido, "spingere la voce" era en principio un defecto, y con el crecimiento de las orquestas con Verdi, Wagner,veristas, etc. , se convirtió en una tecnica de canto para dar potencia a la voz, peligosa porque dañaba la garganta, como le pasó a Caruso, que tuvo que ser operado de nódulos. Supongo que con el tiempo, el termino se ha corrompido hasta identificarse con un tipo de voz. Respecto a Kraus, no puedo esta más de acuerdo.
para que entiendas la proporcion entre actuar y cantar en la opera, intenta ver una opera actuada solamente, recuerda que tambien hay opera-concierto donde no se actua y no recuerdo que vendan operas actuadas solamente, y si las venden en cd cantadas unicamente, NO ES TEATRO AMIGO ES OPERA, no hay UN SOLO PREMIO para la actuacion de un cantante opera. Cierra por fuera cuando salgas
Entiendo la proporción entre actuar y cantar en ópera. No es necesario que me lo expliques. Si tu no das importancia a la parte actoral, algunos aficionados si se la damos. Por cierto, eso de "cierra por fuera cuando salgas" no parece venir muy a cuento. ¿Se lo decías a alguien mientras escribías el comentario y lo has puesto sin darte cuenta? Supongo que te resulta difícil pensar en dos cosas a la vez. No te preocupes, le pasa a mucha gente y no significa que tengáis retraso.
si quieres grandes actores amiguito la opera no es el lugar para buscarlos. si lo que quieres son voces entonces si. spinto tienes parte de razon cuando dices que es una forma de cantar pero tambien se necesita tener el tipo de voz para cantar spinto, un tenor ligero puede intentarlo pero el resultado seria un desastre e injusto para la musica, lo de cierra por fuera lo usamos en mexico para cuando alguien dice algo sin saber realmente del tema asi como tu que te confiesas AFICIONADO.
Chaval, supongo que tu te habrás ido de vinos con Ghiringhelli y Rudolf Bing, para tener el atrevimiento de decir que los demás no sabemos realmente de ópera. Si tu no piensas que un cantante de ópera con dotes actorales, como Domingo o Callas es preferible a uno que ni se mueve en escena, como Pav., es cosa tuya. Imagino que solo oyes ópera en disco, y por eso desprecias la parte actoral. Respecto a "spinto", ya lo he discutido aquí con otra persona, y no tengo ganas de hacerlo contigo.
Jajaja, menuda rabieta has pillado, hombre. No sabía que discutía con un pre-adolescente. En fin, para ti la perra gorda: te doy la razón en todo lo que dices. ¿Se te ha pasado ya la pataleta? Ale, ale, que no ha sido nada, no te enfurruñes que ya nadie te lleva la contraria.
bueno eso no es verdad, como se puede decir que no se le ha comparado nadie? en muchas cosas y en momentos otros eran mucho mejores, corelli, del monaco etc
I love tenors and love Pavarotti. But I prefer live performances to studio recordings - each is different, with small stories, quirks and some history behind it.
There no point in suggesting that there is a "greatest". The criteria should be "those who reached excellence and those who have not". Trying to find the greatest is like trying to find the greatest Nobel Laureates among the Nobel Laureates -it's absolute nonsense. The bottom line is that when Pavarotti sung, people's heart melted ones way or another. Plainly put, he had the "something extra" which many others did not have and that made all the difference.
Agreed. And Pavarotti certainly had that "something extra," in addition to a most beautiful voice, especially in his earlier years. Let's just say he was one of the great tenors.
Fantastic recording.Possibly the best pour mon ame. But to simply call him the greatest ever singer would be a great injustice to all the other great singers. But no doubt Pav was great.
Pavarotti reaches the whole world, crossing music styles. WE have musicians like Bono from U2 singing with him when he was alive, and Sting (Police) singing with him as well. He was respected by people like Aretha Franklin. No other Opera singer in the world at any time was able to reach so many with the voice. He went beyond Opera and became a singer that moved more then people who were just sold on one style.
babystinky 1 month ago
There will always be some who will find "something" to pick to.
As a singer I know how difficult a profession it is. And Luciano was cetainly the best. Yes, he was more involved when a conductor inspired him, but the sheer line, diction, liquidity of tone, clear focused sound and the incredible top made him a phenomenon, not the later arena concerts. As a whole he was incredible, in one line with Caruso, though different of timbre.
chaiter1 1 month ago
If he isn't the greatest, then he's in a league of his very own.
Sure we all can go on and get technical on how Carreras, Lanza, Corelli, and Vickers were better singers but...
Who can resist the king?
Dhyahbolical 3 months ago
The Cs at the end literally gave me goosebumps. And since I used to be an English teacher, I do know what "literally" means.
qhsperson 4 months ago
Pavarotti is at the top of my list of tenors of all time. No one, absolutely no one has his richeness, warmth and "ping". Was he a convincing actor? Was he the musician Domingo is? No, on both counts. Who cares? Pavarotti's voice was peerless and one for the ages.
MingnonDunn 4 months ago
I love him singing lighter, more lyric rep. It's his heavier darker roles that I find don't compare as well against his peers. Still, he had the immense mastery and incredible voice to pull off both light and heavy rep, which must be commended even if I personally believe the light rep was where his mastery lay.
8x8MaVerick8x8 5 months ago
for me the very best ever,he could really put out the high note when he was younger,but was great till death.rip parthree123
parthree123 5 months ago
akways on pitch -- tone always the same from top to bottom[what bottom he had] --Very melodic singer with a wonderful vocal quality and sound -Sang with a freedom,,abandon and indomitable spirit- Truly an exceptional tenor voice - A very distinctive voice; easy to pick out-- Certainly one of the 5 best EVER!
redgrapeskins 6 months ago
I heard Pavarotti live many times. The very first time I heard him he lost his voice on stage. Adler made him go on sick. He wasn't world famous then.
He was as good as they say, but not quite as good as some others. Kraus was better as Nemorino. Aragall was a better Cavardossi. Same production and same seats.
Domingo was always better - warmer voice, better acting, better musicianship, and a better top (shorter of course). Carreras sang so beautifully I cried. Pavarotti never moved me.
Agorante 6 months ago
Number one!!!!
kiNGVV88 6 months ago
PAVAROTTI, YES!
If he's not even the best one. He's in ligue of his own! What Pavarotti has done is a masterpiece, listen his recordings and will see what he deserve: the voice, phrases, line - without peer!
Bjoerling, Bergonzi,and so-on are perfect singers, but Pavarotti went beyond their achievements, don't remember only that huge man who sang at the stadiums, nevertheless that even there he made some things, which one could get shivers.
Just listen...
TraVoiBelle 7 months ago 2
Pavarotti doesn't deserve the #1 spot. Corelli, Bjorling, or Caruso are all better than him.
incredulousG3 7 months ago
anjir C nya. paraaah
makannasiajalah 7 months ago
Pav was the greatest tenor in recorded history.
mlcollins10 7 months ago
so much heart in his voice. him and Lemeshev.
ZumbiAlex 7 months ago
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Yes, he is one of the greatest, listen to the nine high C's at the end... unbelievable!
94obie 8 months ago
Yes, he is one of the greatest, listen to the nine high C's at the end... unbelievable
94obie 8 months ago
This from the time when he actually sang and sang the roles adequate for his voice!
ignaciofeito 10 months ago
Brilliant voice! I especially love what he creates in the Ballo recording with Solti. The despair in his voice is overwhelming.
PEAinSwe 1 year ago
The phenomenal beauty of his voice cannot be denied, and his technique was extraordinary. I heard him at his Carnegie Hall recital debut- and it was unforgetable! Pavarotti certainly deserves to be listed among the 100Greatest! thank you.
baltoman24 1 year ago
Ah Luciano, you will be missed.
His voice has no comparison...ease, flexibility, range and support.
BRAVA!!! #1 for sure.
Bikerbeardan 1 year ago
The greatest tenor ever!!!!
spizzell1 1 year ago
@spizzell1 I think he's easily top 3 but not better than Caruso or Borjling, but I feel you on that, he's like my idol to brah.
duffman7793 1 year ago
@duffman7793 I wouldn't.
osinging 1 year ago
I'm a little taken aback. I've never been a big Pavarotti fan-- always thought he was quite overrated. But, my goodness, if he had always sounded like this, I would change my tune! This, to me, has musicianship and expression that-- forgive me-- I don't think came through in the later years. He always seemed to me to be a rather static, oversized, nice high note-producer and not much else. I wonder why that is, since hearing him in this recording I'm quite impressed?
gimmeachallenge 1 year ago 6
Love this site, I am having a terrific walk down memory lane. My list is Bjorling, DiStefano, Aragall, Pavarotti... and soon to add Miller.
owlgrabber2 1 year ago
@owlgrabber2 Yes; I like that list ... I would probably add Jan Peerce.
Pavarotti is the pinnacle though.
denidowi 1 year ago
@owlgrabber2 -- Yes! Isn't it fun? All these wonderful singers to listen to. I am being introduced to voices I have never heard before. I love it!
sopranosd 1 year ago
Luciano Pavarotti fue el mas grande tenor de los ultimos 30 años, por su hermosa voz y ademas por su gran carisma. Pero lejos de ser el mejor fue y disculpen el atrevimiento para la segunda parte del siglo 20 y inicios del 21 el que atrajo mas que nadie a los jovenes y a la gente a la opera, como lo fueran en el pasado Caruso y Gigli.
lpizzella 1 year ago
@lpizzella Muy cierto: hermosa voz y gran popularidad; pero estás cualidades son son suficientes, la técnica no estaba depurada y según pasaba el tiempo fue cayendo en demasiados tics en sus interpretaciones. En cualquier caso en la primera parte de su carrera fué el mejor Rodolfo, y uno de los grandes belcantistas.
ibnhazm 1 year ago
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Il più versatile in assoluto, il più completo 100% ITALIANO
80Mrmirko 1 year ago
Il più versatile in assoluto, il più completo 100% ITALIANO
80Mrmirko 1 year ago
As far as vocal beauty goes, Pavarotti was Zeus. The most thrilling aria ever, time after time.
rainbowland550 1 year ago 3
To me he was the greatest. I love the way he sings and I love what he did to bring more popularity to opera. Great, great artist.
spizzell1 1 year ago
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Rubbish.
Mooorhe 2 years ago
Not to mention millions of people who find him to be the greatest of all time. So, it would be unfair to reduce his greatness only on media project - by the way media can be right as well, they are not wrong by definiton.
castorp278 2 years ago
'' ... he was incredibly over-rated and falsely portrayed as the greatest of all time by the media''. We can discuss on Pavarotti being overated and falsely portrayed as the greatest of all time but the same ''false'' statements can be heard not only by media but by conductors, singers and critics as well. For instance, Alagna called him the Messiah of tenors and Calleja said there were only two tenors in the 20th century that surpass the rest - Caruso and Pavarotti.
castorp278 2 years ago 5
@castorp278 I would almost be inclined to agree with Calleja ... although I have recently gained some more aPPRECIATION for Peerce, Bjorling, etc.
denidowi 1 year ago
The best tenor!
Haristotel 2 years ago 5
There are many great tenors, but Pavarotti is the GREATEST!!!!!!!!
marcherst 2 years ago 3
Congratulations on the music choice. This is to the most iconic part in Pavarotti's career. People talk about Nessum Dorma... but not only Puccini isn't nowhere near my favorites but also his work is not the best canvas in which Pavarotti could paint how great he was.
tneprescintr 2 years ago
beh, bellissima voce ed interpretazione. Più agile è Kraus e anche più bravo, ma il timbro di Pavarotti è forse meno metallico, più rotondo.
ferrariemil 2 years ago
The young Luciano (as in this aria) was absolutely spectacular and certainly deserves to be at the very top of this list. I don't necessary like the later "Hollywood" like shows.
tomfroekjaer 2 years ago 3
His "Hollywood" shows were genius.
CatalinaDM56 2 years ago
The absolute, hands-down greatest tenor of all time. No one comes close.
dee1153 2 years ago
By Luciano everything is right, the voice of the broadcast. In his fascinating interpretations I feels his personage. There will be no give second a Luciano. This aria, I also have to complete recording on CD and if I'm drive with my car and then heard this aria I switch my radio as loud as it can only be done so that all may this unique music and this wonderful tenor can hear, Luciano Pavarotti ..
Thank you for this enjoyment of art!
modenacon 2 years ago 3
you guys are naming all the lyric tenors. what about Corelli. he might not be as "pretty" but his voice could blow Pavarotti's house down any day of the week.
raigekimaru 2 years ago
@raigekimaru Loud is not necessarily good. Corelli had a wonderful natural voice, and an incredible range from ff to pp, and sang with good emotion, but he was not easy to listen to. So stentorian at times, and his voice sounded forced (even though, I am told, it was not). Gorgeous color, though.
sopranosd 1 year ago
@sopranosd
I guess I have a preference for powerful, tempestuous tenor voices. lyric tenors just seem to be missing something for me. I dunno, just my tastes
raigekimaru 1 year ago
@raigekimaru Oh I totally understand -- Corelli is so thrilling at times, and indeed tempestuous. I do lean toward the lyric/dramatic tenors, probably because that was my Dad's fach, and I love the repertoire. It's great that people have a range of tastes, because that means more opportunity for more singers. It's all good.
sopranosd 1 year ago
@sopranosd
I guess I'm also sorta biased having a big powerful voice myself. usually I like a nice dark dramatic baritone, like the kind you would hear as a preacher at a black church. as far as female voices, I like just about everything from bright, innocent leggiero soprano to deep, dark, sexy mezzo (although my favorite female voice would have to be dramatic coloratura). female voices are more soothing and easy to listen to. good male voices are rare. good female voices are common =)
raigekimaru 1 year ago
@raigekimaru - Now that's ironic; I'm a lyric coloratura, so I'm a little biased toward my repertoire -- Strauss, Donizetti, etc. I don't know if female voices are more soothing, esp. since some can rather shriek, but those dark honey mezzo voices are definitely calming to the ear. I love tenors, but I think my favorite male voice is the baritone, but then again, maybe I just have the hots for Erwin Schrott ;)
sopranosd 1 year ago
@sopranosd
well, I like younger guys, so operatic male voices are too "manly" and "mature" for me to have the hots for them. my all time favorite singer is Dame Joan Sutherland and her earth shattering high Ds, Ebs and Es
raigekimaru 1 year ago
@raigekimaru I kind of wonder what you really like in the field of opera? Do you like the music, or are you after the voice in itself, perhaps like kind of..a stimulation?
mozzrt 1 year ago
@mozzrt
I like the voice, the charisma and the strength and passion. I like the music because it is a medium for these things to travel through, but I really could care less about the words or the storyline ^v^
raigekimaru 1 year ago
@raigekimaru OK. It's easier in a way - then you don't have to buy the whole opera!
mozzrt 1 year ago
@mozzrt
I guess that's why I like Maria Callas. when I listen to her sing I'm like "dayum! this bitch is CRRRAZY!" =P
raigekimaru 1 year ago
Questo è il suo giusto repertorio, lirico leggero ::))
federricoilgrande 2 years ago
I sing opera and I can understand how was Pavarotti´s voice. When I hear him sing its like hear the perfection... His voice was a gift from GOD. Cheers for Luciano ¡¡¡
bratvasuva 2 years ago 3
La verdad es que para mí la Opera tiene un antes y un después....LUCIANO PAVAROTTI es la voz más MARAVILLOSA que nunca oí... Jamás volverá a haber otra igual. Los otros fueron buenos, pero ¡¡¡ Luciano es de otra galaxia ¡¡¡ Lamento no haber podido verte en vivo en Chile, pero tu voz quedará por siempre. Edgardo Azzarelli - CHILE
bratvasuva 2 years ago
Pardon me peeps... but I don't think it's nice to call a man who became a household name and did so much for expanding opera's audience a "sell-out". Pavarotti is one of the all-time greatest. If his talents gained him financial prosperity and he exploited that somewhat...who cares? He's a terrific artist and is the reason many of us began listening to opera in the first place.
ryaneffingbrock 2 years ago 27
@ryaneffingbrock I can certainly agree with ye thereLOL!
Pavarotti, for many years, was the only operatic voice I would listen to :)
Now I don't mind a few other voices.
But He is definitely "King", as has been said before.
Who said Presley was KingLOL??!!
denidowi 1 year ago
You can discuss how much you want, but Pavarotti is sharing the opera throne along with Caruso and so it is. We'll wait long, long time to be blessed with such a voice again...
Haristotel 2 years ago 5
It is the beauty of Pavarotti's voice, with or without all the high C's, that I have always found sublime.
Jeanne90275 2 years ago 16
@Jeanne90275 I agree with you totally. The high C's are just icing on the cake, and I hate that any singer's voice is judged solely on the quality/consistency of his high notes. Pavarotti had a beautiful color, great technique and wonderful resonance. It's so easy to listen to him (but he's not 'easy listening' :;) )
sopranosd 1 year ago
''In the XX Century there are only two tenors that surpass the rest ; Caruso and Pavarotti.'' Joseph Calleja
castorp278 2 years ago 5
I agree but not quite! I think in general, and especially in the beginning is the most Grendi Pavarotti tenor of the century, but artists such as Corelli are significant "artistic" maybe more! however, it is true that all future content will be confronted with him, and Florez, will not arrive at his level because his voice will never support the roles that supported Pavarotti!
Eruption1910 2 years ago
I agree. He far from over-rated. The man was a vocal genius. Who cares if he "sold out." I love his voice. It is one of the most beautiful of the twentieth century.
CatalinaDM56 2 years ago 7
this opera is under performed. ok it's light..but sometimes we need that. i am so glad florez re-introduced it. i love this performance. thank you for choosing this aria.
johneunson 2 years ago
I was never a big fan but recordings like this and other early singing of Pav. are really very fine in every way.
halavey 2 years ago
Too bad that all these artists aren't alive today, with modern technology. Hard to make comparisons when some of the older recordings don't do the artists justice.
hernanx3 2 years ago
pavarotti will allways be pavarotti!!!!
angelstar2701 2 years ago 3
Ohne jeden Zweifel zu dieser Zeit der beste Tenor seiner Zeit. Mit einer Stimme ausgestattet wie kein zweiter. Und dazu konnte er diese Stimme auch einsetzen und benutzen. Ein großer Tenor, mit einer hellen, klaren Stimme. Ideal für die frühen Verdi Rollen und Puccini! Sein Rodolfo ist gewiß ein absoluter Höhepunkt! Ebenso wie sein Ah! Mes ami....Jeder Nachfolgende muß sich an ihm messen...und wird verzweifeln!
tenorvoicefan 2 years ago
Ich stimme aber nicht ganz! Ich denke, im Allgemeinen und insbesondere in der Anfangsphase ist die Grendi Pavarotti Tenor des Jahrhunderts, sondern Künstler wie Corelli erhebliche "künstlerische" vielleicht mehr! aber es ist wahr, dass alle künftigen Inhalte mit ihm konfrontiert werden, werden und Florez, nicht auf seiner Ebene zu gelangen, weil seine Stimme nie die Rollen, die unterstützt Pavarotti Unterstützung!
Eruption1910 2 years ago
This is brilliant from start to finish. One that I can listen repeatedly.
ccsabin 2 years ago 3
I super agree choosing Pavarotti within the gratest, and this pice is one of my favorites, tnanks for sharing it!!
epifaniopineda 2 years ago 4
wow... the only tenor I heard so far who was able to sing those crazy phrases without doing it almost staccato !
tenor9216 2 years ago 3
Pavarotti has a little touch of magic in his vocal chords!!!Wonderfull MAestro!
danielpavarotti 2 years ago 4
I am in agreement about most of those included in the 100 Greatest listing, but must insist room be made for Manuel Ausensi, the greatest Spanish baritone, and the marvelous Apollo Granforte.
vernokenn 2 years ago
When Pavarotti is his best he beats Domingo like anything, but Domingo does not lisp, he sings wonderful always. They are both among the truly greats.
mozzrt 2 years ago 3
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Actually Domingo in his best equals Pavarotti vocally and he was always a better actor and musician.Plus he sang far more significant roles.Seriously,operas like Fille du Regiment,Elisir d'amore,I Puritani,La Boheme,L'amico Fritz sound like operetas compared to operas such as Don Carlos,Lohengrin,Otello,Aida,Carmen,Les troyens,Faust,Les contes d'Hoffmann,Samson et Delilah,Die Walküre,I Vespri Siciliani...
cer1n 2 years ago
Don't kid yourself, Domingo could never touch Pavarotti's vocal ability. Domingo's voice was flawed throughout his career, he started by weighting the bottom and middle of his voice too much: this led to the flawed legato and hoarse jumps to the upper register. It's noticeable that he corrected this flaw in the early '80s, but by this time his top was nasal and hoarse. Imperfection for the duration of his career, that was Domingo's voice.
Mooorhe 2 years ago 4
@Mooorhe Didn't Domingo start out as a baritone? That might explain his tension in the high range. He may have still felt that these notes were a stretch, even though he had switched fachs.
sopranosd 1 year ago
Luciano is not super emotional singer but he is an honest artist-not like Carreras-so he belongs not only in 100 but in one of the best
carusohimself 2 years ago
how is Carreras not an honest artist ???
tenor9216 2 years ago
This is my pesonal feeling of Carreras. He is a very "musical" I mean he knows what's he is doing and that's a problem with me, He never gives me goosbumps.
He is coached perfectly but it doesn't come from his heart, so he is faking in a away. That's what I mean by not honest:)
That's my opinion(he has a great voice, though but I liked him more in a liric repertoir.
carusohimself 2 years ago 2
Pavarotti is par excellence, but I think it has a lot to do with what they are singing.
His Nessun Dorma is out of this world and that song is definitely his own.
operalover41 3 years ago 3
I know this is considered THE Pavarotti performance, but my favorite selection in his entire discography is Tonio's other aria in "Fille." I judge my tenors not by how loudly they make the chandeliers rattle with their high C's, but how much heart & soul they can pour into a tender little romanza like "Pour me rapprocher de Marie." or "Quanto e bella." And when the tenor is Pavarotti doing both as only he could, this listener is in "hochheiligen Paradies!"
bobzeschin 3 years ago 4
@bobzeschin I agree. The tender arias are more difficult, and show vocal flaws more readily, since one has to maintain legato, sing softly and with nuance, and sustain an emotion throughout. Pavarotti was wonderful singing the 'romanzas' as well as the show pieces.
sopranosd 1 year ago
pavarotti we miss you !!
oneborda 3 years ago 2
damn.....that was perfect...
operastar18 3 years ago 2
The greatest indeed what a voice !!!!!!!! LOVE YOU FOREVER LUCIANO
thomassmile 3 years ago
My farewell appearance as a Met super in Detroit was in the legendary 1972 "Fille," and when the time came for this aria, half the chorus--who were normally dead on their feet after six weeks on the road--came out of their dressing rooms to stand in the wings and silently "clock" off the 9 high C's with their fingers as if they were the last few seconds of a Super Bowl game. Can anyone have had a greater tribute from co-workers who had heard every star singer of the postwar era?
bobzeschin 3 years ago 6
What an excellent story!
Do you remember if he held the final high C for a very long time like he did in New Orleans anywhere else?
Mooorhe 3 years ago
Well, in Motown that night, he held it long enough for the jaws to drop on half the chorus, and the rest to shake their heads in amazement. Oddly enough, next morning neither Detroit paper mentioned The End Of An Era in Met supering. (Old hands still talk about the way I ran down the temple stairs in Act 3 of "Aida" when Ramfis yelled "Guarda!) They just went on and on and on about Pavarotti and some Australian woman whose name escapes me at the moment.
bobzeschin 3 years ago 3
Hehe.
Do you remember who the Ramfis was?
Mooorhe 2 years ago
Forgive me for not recalling offhand, but when you get Leontyne Price as Aida, Franco Corelli as Radames, & Rita Gorr as Amneris, it's hard for a Ramfis to adhere to the brain for four decades.. They brought "Aida" to town several times during my halcyon days, so there were probably two or three different Ramfi. If you feel like making the effort, check the Met website's incredible archives for all the Detroit "Aida" performances between 1963 & 1972. For some reason, my name doesn't appear.
bobzeschin 2 years ago
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sopranosd 1 year ago
@sopranosd When you have more than one Ramfis, you have Ramfi. Like octopus and octopi.
bobzeschin 1 year ago
@bobzeschin - Thanks. Of course, "Ramfis" is the character's name , and you just meant that you had not memorized ever guy who sang the role over the years -- I wasn't reading very carefully. BTW, Ramfis is an Egyptian name, yes? I believe you are pluralizing it as if it were Latin, but in that case the plural of Ramfis would still be Ramfis with a macron over the 'i'. (3d declension). (Am I pretentious or what?! ) ;)
sopranosd 1 year ago 2
@bobzeschin octopus? worst example ever! octopus ends in "us" while Ramfis ends in "is" how can you not see that?
SiEtIn1 1 year ago
"some Australian woman whose name escapes me at the moment." ?
Do you mean Joan Sutherland? I would do.... ANYTHING... to be able to go back in time to see those two singing together.
MassiniAndPuccinet 2 years ago 3
In my opinion he had the best vocal technique of anyone ever. No passagio's, never a note that didn't have spin and such a natural energy to the voice. His voice is exciting! It makes one glad to be involved in opera music! He's one of my three favorite tenors (the other two being Wunderlich and Tucker).
Iareto 3 years ago 4
Perfectly said.
Mooorhe 3 years ago
Great technique tone and phrasing ..deserves to be on any list of great voices ...miles ahead of Jose [who isn't??] and Placido IMO Certainly Luciano is the greatest tenor by far who made their debut in the 1960s
lpvcrcd 2 years ago 3
Well, lot's of singers had what could probably be called "perfect" technique- so can you call Pavarotti's technique better than "anyone ever?" I personally don't think so, but suffice it to say his technique was virtually unsurpassed, and he more than deserves a place in the top 100. :-)
ShawDAMAN 3 years ago 2
@Iareto Well, actually, he had a passagio, as we all do, but he finessed it so well, with great technique, that we only hear effortless sound. I agree -- spin, natrual energy, great color. And I agree about Wunderlich and Tucker, and would add Bjorling to the mix.
sopranosd 1 year ago
Well , this recording is just phantastic, but I must say that unfortunatelly I didn't hear any recording live of him singing tthis. There is one here on Youtube, but it's lower, so it's not anymore high C's
Dondinin 3 years ago
There are at least four recordings of this being sung by Pavarotti on YouTube, all sung at this pitch. Check them out.
Mooorhe 3 years ago
I was kind of hoping for a video that would have a complete list of all 100 and not just one video of the number one. Oh, his is and always will be the king.
sukoutoshindo 3 years ago 3
This list was my first intention when I began with this project. But I received many comments just as: "Can´t wait who´s coming next!" And so I think, most YouTube-users like to get a surprise!
100Singers 3 years ago
If it's about the voice he is the greatest.
castorp278 3 years ago
Well, of course Pavarotti is in the top 100! King of the High C, indeed! Listening to him sing this just puts a smile on my face!
novice1959 3 years ago
I remember hearing this recording for the first time and those C's sent chills down my spine
bkmustang07 3 years ago
Gran tenor, en sus primero años y siempre y cuando estuviese bien dirigido. Cuando no tenia detrás un gran director, era tosco, inexpresivo y mediocre. Además en escena era un saco de patatas gigante.
Kallistos07 3 years ago
Vocalmente no se le ha comparado nadie, actoralmente no era bueno, pero la lista es de CANTANTES!!
tauromaniac 3 years ago
De cantantes de opera, amigo mio, y la opera tiene dos partes: música y teatro. Que demasiados cantantes sean sacos de patatas en escena no quiere decir que no sea un defecto. Que aprendan de Plácido Domingo, que es un estupendo actor. Y tambien discrepo en lo vocal. Desde luego, tenia casi tantas facultades como Fleta, por eso da rabia que no las aprovechase totalmente por ser un musico mediocre. En el repertorio que compartían, Kraus, con peor voz, era mucho mas fino y expresivo.
Kallistos07 3 years ago
Le iba a decir muy bien hablado hasta que la cagó, kraus tenia peor voz? que dice?
el sonido de la voz no da la calidad de una voz ni menos e trabajo o el preducto, me decepciona que hoy en dia se siga hablando sin conocimientos de estilos de canto y tecnica, que kraus tenia peor voz que luacino? bueno que le guste a usted menos no quita que kraus hizo bajo mi punto de vista una mas humilde y prodigiosa carrera.
tena2 3 years ago
Seguramente no debería haber puesto "peor voz", si no timbre menos atractivo, lo que no quiere decir que considere feo el de Kraus. Los tenores Spinto como Pav. suelen tener mayor brillantez tímbrica que las voces más ligeras, como la de Kraus. Por lo demás, gustándome realmente mucho Pav., creame que en el repertorio que compartían, escucho a Kraus con más agrado por su elegancia, su sentido del legato, su variedad de recursos estilisticos, su fraseo perfecto... ¿Debo seguir?
Kallistos07 3 years ago
quien dijo que pav era spinto?
además tampoco acierta usted en decir que suelen tener mas brillantez timbrica, la brillantez es exepcion de los dramaticos pues hay por lo general brillantez en las voces en las que los resonadores de las cavidades de la cabeza se emplean bien, lo que pasa es que en el caso de kraus él no tenia una voz rica en armicos pero por ejemplo le puedo nombrar a unos unos cuantos ligeros- leggeros que tienen mas brillantez que muchos liricos.
tena2 3 years ago
Pav. cantó, sobre todo de joven, papeles que piden tenor lírico puro, y posteriormente pasó a papeles veristas que piden un spinto, y hasta Otello o Trovatore, que piden un dramático. Respecto al timbre, claro que hay líricos puros que destacan por él. Wunderlitz, por ejemplo, pero muchos grandes líricos, como Schippa o Blake no tienen bellísimos timbres. Esto se considera virtud más extendida entre los lírico-spinto: Pav.,Carreras,Bjöling,Fleta,Aragall,...
Kallistos07 3 years ago
Vamos a ver si nos entendemos señor mio, que un cantante tenga la poca delicadeza de cantar cosas que no van acorde con su tipo e voz no quiere decir qeue su voz pertencezca a es estilo peculiar, luciano era un tenor lirico puro, que le vamos a hacer si al igual compo domingo pero n tan ezagerado quiso probar en otras cosas? yo apoyo a los tenores que se especializan dentro de sus posibilidades, sino al final la voz cambia y uno sale perjudicado, miren e ejemplo de kraus, solo cantó 24 operas.
tena2 3 years ago
No pretendo ser un especialista, pero por lo que tengo entendido, "spinto" es más bien una técnica que un tipo de voz: el cantante "spinge", empuja la voz con la glotis, y eso hace que salga más potente,sobre todo en el agudo, como piden los papeles veristas sobre todo, pero con menos flexibilidad para apianarse o hacer agilidades. Entiendo que Pav. usaba esta técnica incluso en los papeles más líricos, y por eso suena mas tosco que Kraus, que se apoyaba más en los resonadores craneales.
Kallistos07 3 years ago
Bueno, le comento, spinto, lirico, dramatico, etc son caracteristicas de la voz de tenor, cuando un varon alcanza el desarroyo vocal entonces se determina con unas audiciones la tendencia del color, brillo y demas caracteristicas timbricas y sonoras, un tenor spinto es aquel que por naturaleza tiene mayor pontencia que el lirico, por regla general, pero utilizar el temino spinto tambien en canto nos referimos a una extra utilizacion de la glotis al cantar como usted menciona.
tena2 3 years ago
siguiendo con la explicacion de spinto, la forma mas sana de cultivar una buena salud vocal es sin duda la de kraus, no por el ejemplo de lingevidad que nos dio, sino por escoger meticulasamente el repertorio olvidandose de ser divos o tarjetas de credito andantes, respiracion costal-difragatica, tecnica de la antigua escuela de canto, usar en su extremo los resonadores craneaes etc, spinto no es una tecnica, es la caracteristica de la voz de tenor.
tena2 3 years ago
Por lo que tengo entendido, "spingere la voce" era en principio un defecto, y con el crecimiento de las orquestas con Verdi, Wagner,veristas, etc. , se convirtió en una tecnica de canto para dar potencia a la voz, peligosa porque dañaba la garganta, como le pasó a Caruso, que tuvo que ser operado de nódulos. Supongo que con el tiempo, el termino se ha corrompido hasta identificarse con un tipo de voz. Respecto a Kraus, no puedo esta más de acuerdo.
Kallistos07 3 years ago
Please, can you post your comments in english too? Not all are skilled in spanish language... Best regards from Mike :-)
100Singers 3 years ago
para que entiendas la proporcion entre actuar y cantar en la opera, intenta ver una opera actuada solamente, recuerda que tambien hay opera-concierto donde no se actua y no recuerdo que vendan operas actuadas solamente, y si las venden en cd cantadas unicamente, NO ES TEATRO AMIGO ES OPERA, no hay UN SOLO PREMIO para la actuacion de un cantante opera. Cierra por fuera cuando salgas
tauromaniac 3 years ago
Entiendo la proporción entre actuar y cantar en ópera. No es necesario que me lo expliques. Si tu no das importancia a la parte actoral, algunos aficionados si se la damos. Por cierto, eso de "cierra por fuera cuando salgas" no parece venir muy a cuento. ¿Se lo decías a alguien mientras escribías el comentario y lo has puesto sin darte cuenta? Supongo que te resulta difícil pensar en dos cosas a la vez. No te preocupes, le pasa a mucha gente y no significa que tengáis retraso.
Kallistos07 3 years ago
si quieres grandes actores amiguito la opera no es el lugar para buscarlos. si lo que quieres son voces entonces si. spinto tienes parte de razon cuando dices que es una forma de cantar pero tambien se necesita tener el tipo de voz para cantar spinto, un tenor ligero puede intentarlo pero el resultado seria un desastre e injusto para la musica, lo de cierra por fuera lo usamos en mexico para cuando alguien dice algo sin saber realmente del tema asi como tu que te confiesas AFICIONADO.
tauromaniac 3 years ago
Chaval, supongo que tu te habrás ido de vinos con Ghiringhelli y Rudolf Bing, para tener el atrevimiento de decir que los demás no sabemos realmente de ópera. Si tu no piensas que un cantante de ópera con dotes actorales, como Domingo o Callas es preferible a uno que ni se mueve en escena, como Pav., es cosa tuya. Imagino que solo oyes ópera en disco, y por eso desprecias la parte actoral. Respecto a "spinto", ya lo he discutido aquí con otra persona, y no tengo ganas de hacerlo contigo.
Kallistos07 3 years ago 3
ok AFICIONADO, vive feliz en tu mundito sin que nadie cuestione tus tonterias
tauromaniac 3 years ago
Jajaja, menuda rabieta has pillado, hombre. No sabía que discutía con un pre-adolescente. En fin, para ti la perra gorda: te doy la razón en todo lo que dices. ¿Se te ha pasado ya la pataleta? Ale, ale, que no ha sido nada, no te enfurruñes que ya nadie te lleva la contraria.
Kallistos07 3 years ago
bueno eso no es verdad, como se puede decir que no se le ha comparado nadie? en muchas cosas y en momentos otros eran mucho mejores, corelli, del monaco etc
tena2 3 years ago
I love tenors and love Pavarotti. But I prefer live performances to studio recordings - each is different, with small stories, quirks and some history behind it.
pbogdanovic 3 years ago
Greatest lyric Italian tenor ever in my opinion, and one of the greatest lyric tenor voices of the last 100 years.
Mooorhe 3 years ago
By no means the greatest but certainly one of the top 100. I don't see how anyone could disagree with that.
GermanOperaSinger 3 years ago
There no point in suggesting that there is a "greatest". The criteria should be "those who reached excellence and those who have not". Trying to find the greatest is like trying to find the greatest Nobel Laureates among the Nobel Laureates -it's absolute nonsense. The bottom line is that when Pavarotti sung, people's heart melted ones way or another. Plainly put, he had the "something extra" which many others did not have and that made all the difference.
TheInquisitive4Ever 3 years ago
Agreed. And Pavarotti certainly had that "something extra," in addition to a most beautiful voice, especially in his earlier years. Let's just say he was one of the great tenors.
meltzerboy 3 years ago 4
Fantastic recording.Possibly the best pour mon ame. But to simply call him the greatest ever singer would be a great injustice to all the other great singers. But no doubt Pav was great.
laknaths 3 years ago 3
AT the top of the list!!!!!!!!!! Luciano Pavaoratti...the greatest of all.
marcherst 3 years ago
Pretty much right on the top of that 100 list.
DRSYNSCARECROW 3 years ago
Certainly I agree with you.
jenni4claire 3 years ago