God forbid the president admits other religions exist and *gasp*... He respects them!
I'm so sick of hearing Christians say that this is a Christian nation and we should follow Christian values. There are a lot of other religions that all have good values too! If we can start taking lessons from all different religions the world would be a better, more understanding place.
@yentalin12345----The Republicans and the Religious Right are destroying this country and trying to turn it into a Christian Theocracy. They hold their Bibles and the 2nd. Amendment over the 1st Amendment. The Republican Candidates are making Obama look more and more like a voice of reason and sanity every day.
dagoose109, Say what u will about Christianity, we r not the ones slapping bombs on r children and sending them out to kill innocent people. Hey what do u think of Barry spending millions of tax payer funds on a new soccor field for his islam terror pals at gitmo? Great news huh?
@ECwashr---You are right. By comparison Christianity is much less violent than Islam. However, you cannot divorce yourself from Jones Town, Koresh, Abortion Doctor Murderers, the KKK, Christian Militia, The Westboro Baptists, Child Abuse by Brainwashing ie. Jesus Camp, Culture Destroying Missionaries, and the rich history of the Crusades, the Inquisition, and the Salem Witch Trials. But then, any kind of fanaticism can be dangerous---not just religious.
Gas prices soaring, food prices raising, unemployment rising, middle east about to explode, etc. AND what does obama order this week? Thats rigth a new soccor field for the terrorist at gitmo. U know the terrorist who r sworn to kill us all? I guess obama wants 2 make sure his terrorist muslim pals have only the best? Millions of tax payer money to terrorist! They catch r soldiers, they behead them, we catch them, they get 3 hots a shower, the satanic koran and now a new soccor field!!
@ECwashr----Islam is a mirror of Christianity, and that is why Christians hate it so much. Islam is a Cult of Violence which claims to be "Religion of Peace", and Christianity a 'Cult of Judgment pretending to be a "Religion of Love". Both think they own God, when all they really own is a hot steaming pile of dogma doo.
@pianomanroc----Of course you Right Wing Facists need someone to blame. What do you think it would be like if McCain and Palin were in charge Einstein??? In any case, your Republican Candidates are the laughing stock of the Western World and every time they open their mouths they make Obama look like a voice of reason and sanity. Thanks!
@miku1983 That's like asking, What would it have been like if it snowed yesterday! There're not in charge, this is Obama's economy and mess HE created! Why do they look insane?? B/C they want GOV out of your life? They want you to work hard and make something of your self? They want to protect life? They want less taxes? Please elaborate on your dumb-founded remark! By the way, my 2 yr old niece would run the country better than Obummer, so yeah, Palin and treason boy Mcccain would have too!
@pianomanroc yes, sure, all White people even morons like Palin would run the country better than Obama.
And Bush & Clinton had nothing to do with the mess the USA is in today. Obama came into office when the USA was 42 trillion in debt but that's probably Obama's fault too, he somehow infiltrated Bush & Clinton's treasury.
The USA loses about 30 billion per month in its credit card wars funded by Communist China. That too is Obama's fault even though the wars were started by his predecessors.
@pianomanroc Obama inherited an 8 trillion debt & 2 illegal wars that cost over 30 billion each month. Funny how every country Europeans run eventually end up the same. It's also astounding that every country European's run, wealth is built on slavery, plunder, exploitation, stealing, illegal wars & illegal constraints/control of trade +mass murder.
Incredible that with all that foul play you still manage to go bankrupt. The only failure is heathens like you who want Obama to clean up your mess
@pianomanroc----Apparently you are smoking Bibles, snorting them, shooting them, and blending them up in Holy Water and chugging them. Is that a Bible in front of thee or a pre-frontal lobotomy? In any case, a good exorcism might help you overcome your Right Wing-nut addiction to the "Opiate of the Masses."
@dagoose109 Yeah such a nut job I am because I have morals and stick to my convictions!! Damn if only we had more drug riddled, anything under the sun goes, would rather smoke crack then pray mentality minded people like you, the world would be much better! Get your mind right ma'am, your the one smoking the opiate of the masses by bowing down obama who is this countrys greatest enemy right now!
@pianomanroc----Right. Everyone in the world who is not a Christian has no morals or conscience. You must be very proud to have a book filled with moral atrocities to guide you. Arkarkark
dagoose109, so much for free speech and views in this country. I cannot post anything on that Young Turks site. Signs of things to come my friend, starts slow and then builds just like in hitlers Germany. "Sieg Heil Huessien Obama, Sieg Heil Huessien Obama"! That is kind of catchy huh? GOD help us!! Psalm 109:8, "May obama's days be few, may another take his place of leadership".
@ECwashr----I find that hard to believe, however, I have been blocked from exercising my Freedom of Speech on some Christian sites. I appreciate your submission of Deuteronomy 15:1-2, but I am not sure a 7 year debt forgiving is a "Founding Principle" like Human Liberty & Equality, Freedom of Belief, Innocent Until Proven Guilty, A Representative Democracy, A Constitution Which Protects the Rights of All, Fair & Impartial Justice, Gender Equality, Freedom of Speech and Press etc.
@dagoose109 "founded" is up for debate. However it's a Christian nation by majority. So much so that Christian principles are imbedded in the culture. For example. Debt falling of of your credit after 7 years is directly link to Deuteronomy 15:1-2 "At the end of every seven years you shall grant a release of debts." Christianity is America to a certain degree. Removing Christianity would destroy this nation from the inside out.
We never were a Christian Nation and never will be a Christian Nation or we would be no different from any other Theocracy. There is not a single Christian Principle unique and specific to Christianity upon which America was founded.
If he didn't write that himself he should have fired his speech writer on the spot. He almost seemed to be editing it after saying it because his "at least not just" statement seemed like bad english and not pre written. He could have easily said we are a nation of (blah blah blah) and left out the "no longer Christian" part. Then his message that the country is a melting pot would have been less offensive.
@chestveeg===I totally agree with you. "We are no longer a Christian Nation" implies that we once were some sort of "Christian Theocracy" and that simply is not true.
Dagoose109, anyone, anything would be better than Barry Soratoro. Barry is the greatest fraud ever in the history of this country. "Lets give him the Noble Peace Prize". Still waiting to hear what that was for? Oh wait, its because he is black, we do live in a PC world...
@ECwashr----I think Obama was shocked that he go the Nobel Peace Prize! Since he did not get us out of all the preemptive wars that your Republican pals got us into, I don't think he deserved it either. However, I certainly do not think he deserves all the disrespect and bigotry which spews forth from your side of the aisle. Aloha
Dagoose109, right now I would say Obama is the divisive too in this country and he is doing it on purpose. ABSpryteCube, and u r a drooling mindless obama sheep, who will do anything to protect ur hitler, "attack" anyone who dares speak the truth about barry hitler. U r the problim not the solution. Barry wipes his ass just like u do, he has never accomplished ANYTHING other than being the best LIAR and black, which in this PC world is all he needs thanks to fools like u. "BAA BAA BARack"
@ECwashr-----It has always amazed me how the Religious Right came to marry the Republican Conservatives since they are the antithesis to Jesus. But then Holy Hypocrisy is the Foundation of Fundamentalism. Who ya gonna vote for this time? Fruit Blingbitch, Rick Insanitorium, or Mitt the Moron???
@ABSpryteCube Before you make your self look like an idiot, which mind you ain't hard to do! Read the original constitution and tell me where it says sep of church n state!
dagoose109, how pathetic obama the muslim once again bowing down to a muslim leader? Actually apologizing to Afgan pres over koran burning. The soldiers were doing what the santanic koran says, the prisoners had written on the pages, the koran says to burn any muslim rag that has been scribbled in. What does r pathetic muslim usurper do, get on his knees once again for a muslim leader! How bout karzai apologizing about the 70 US Soldiers now murdered by his troops, who r funded/trained by US
@ECwashr----I would just as soon burn every Koran and bring light into the world, but I do not think another Christian Crusade is anything Jesus would condone. Religion is the root of division.
We NEVER WERE a Christian Nation! The founding fathers themselves said this! America was not founded on Christianity. There is no State religion. I'm a Christian and even I think you zealots are completely off your rocker.
atrumira, u r so brainwashed by obma loving media. The dems took the Senate and House in 2006. It was there policies they jammed down Americans throat that caused the housing collaspe and the economy to flounder. As a member of the Senate, Obama is EVEN more responsible for this "mess" than bush. When criminal barry took office unemployment was at 5%, gas at $1.89 a gal. Obama is a disgrace and a complete failure! WAKE UP, he himself calls people like u, "useful idiots". Obama worst pres EVER!!
@ECwashr----Christians and the Religious Right will inevitably vote for the Holy Hypocrites of the Conservative Republican fold. Your candidates stand for smaller government and less government control yet they want an expanded government to mandate their moral contraception ideology upon all the women in America. Putting all gay Americans in concentration camps is probably on their agenda as well. Religiots.
ECwashr: "There is another saying, "if u voted for obama in 2008 to prove ur not a racist..."
And there's another saying (just invented now): "Only a true blithering halfwit would have voted for McCain & his life support system for the female reproductive system, who would have been a (at the time) 72 yr old's (with a previous history of heart attacks) heart-beat away from being President of the United States.
atrumira, AGAIN with bush nonsense! There is another saying, "if u voted for obama in 2008 to prove ur not a racist, vote against him 2012 to prove your not an idiot"! All the problems facing r country, economy, gas prices, soaring food prices, middle east, etc, and what is this clown doing? Going after 1st Amendment Religious rights!! Barry couldn't lead a high school marching band! "The US has 57 states"! What a fool! Loved that day he was locked out of the W House, HILAROUS buffoon!!
Bush is gone in body yes,but not in deeds. The mess this christard inflicted not only on the U.S. but on the rest of the world will take a decade or more to fix.
Or maybe you're hoping for a miracle,do u think Obama shud just clasp his hands together & pray to your invisible wood carving bastard,for jesus to stop for 1 moment smashing asteroids into planets & burning the image of his mother into pieces of toast & instead wave his magic wand :D
dagoose109, there u go with the bush crap. I did not like bush, he was nothing but a puppet 4 his father, who I really dislike. "New World Order, New World Order". Bush is gone, quit blaming him 4 all of obama's failures, it really is ridiculous. ANY of the Republican candidates could not do as bad as Barry Soratoro, Harrison J Bounel, Barrack Huessien, WHATEVER his real name is, if they tried! "He was a community organizer"! BIG F'n DEAL, so was Joe Stalin for Lenin.
dagoose109, 4got, it was Barrys genius plan to not only let the terrorist free in G.Bay but disperse them across the U.S.A. Not hard to understand Y one wld think Barry is 1 of them. So now ur telling us what Lincoln was thinking when he said the word GOD? Only from a liberal cld one hear such nonsense. Did u c Iran put to death a Christian yesterday? AND where was Barry's admin in protest? He was too busy having a party at the WH on the tax payers, he hired Mick Jagger. Ucant make ths stuff up
dagoose109, oh and ur getting the truth from Rachel Meadow, Chris Mathews, cbs, abc, nbc, msnbc, cnn, u know the Obma Networks, ALL Obama ALL the time! To quote Mathews, "I get a tingling up my leg everytime obama lies, I mean speaks". Sounds like unbiased journalism there! Barry did continue the bush wars but he also pardoned the muslim terrorist who bombed the Cole, was in favor of a mosque on ground zero and continues to give billions to M.East countries who call 4 r destruction. Barry=muslim
dagoose109, curious, where is the trillions of taxpayer funds barry gave to Solyndra? Barry embezzled to his bank account and the dem lib party, thats where. But u don't care, barry can committ ANY criminal act and u sheep will back him all the way to hell. Just like the fool who backed hitler followed his every word and lie right to hell. "SIEG HEIL OBAMA, SIEG HEIL OBAMA, SIEG HEIL OBAMA, baa baa, we shall round up the Christians and Jews, just tell us when Der Fuher Obama, SIEG HEIL OBAMA!!
@ECwashr----Obama is not perfect and he has disappointed me on many issues, but he is infinitely better than your idiot Bush. To be honest, I don't think any U.S. President runs this country, and they are more like figureheads and puppets of some sinister powers who remain under the radar. We already know that the greed and power of Big Banks, Corporations, and Pharma has no allegiance to America. Your Republican candidates are such a bad joke that it is actually funny!
dragoose109, obama is clever when it comes to his lies but without his teleprompter he is a blithering idiot! When is the last time barry huessien had a press conference? Wld u jump off a cliff if barry told u too? I bet u wld, "baa baa, yes Der Fuher Obama"! Fast n Furious, ACORN, Fanny, Freddie, thats right, obama got millions from both, now 3 CEOs from Fan/Fred r in Barrys admin, surprise surprise. Barry is the most CORRUPT politician in the history of our Christian nation. GOD help us!!
@ECwashr "obama is clever when it comes to his lies but without his teleprompter he is a blithering idiot!"
As opposed to your fellow jesus' knob gobbler G.W. who produced some of these memorable shining turds:
''There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again''
''You can fool some of the people all of the time & those are the ones you need to concentrate on.''
@saintlaurentb : I am a believer in God and Yeshua..call me Christian if you want, but this country is pagan. They sure made us believe it was Christian for awhile, but it has never been so.
great editing work, you are a propaganda spreading neanderthal! Truth is we're not a christian nation, we're at war for oil, not for freedom. we dont give to the poor in the form of healthcare. we restrict the lives of people for the sake of traditional belief rather than letting them have their consensual freedom, a freedom we all deserve. dont be scared, as a christian you have hope, dont spread fear, fear only god. k, peace out.
dagoose109, question, who wld change their name from Barry Soratoro to Huessein Obama unless they were muslim? Cassius Clay to M. Ali, get my point fool? Barry Soratoro, Harrison Bounel, Huessein or WHATEVER his real name is, is a muslim. He makes a fool out of all who voted 4 him. Like Trump said a couple weeks ago, "obama is laughing at the stupidity of Americans". He was talking about u obama sheep! Here comes lib 101, attack Trump, attack the messenger, never mind the truth. U Jackass!
@ECwashr YOU ARE A FUNDAMENTALIST, RADICAL, OBSCENE OBNOXIOUS MAN NOT WORTHY OF CRITICIZING OBAMA FOR BEING MUSLIM BECAUSE THE CONSTITUTION ALLOWS IT!!!!!! HE IS ALLOWED TO BE A MUSLIM!!!! ALTHOUGH HE ISN'T, STOP THE BRAINWASH, THE USA WAS NEVER A CHRISTIAN NATION!!! NEVER!!! NEVER!!!! NEVER!!! IT IS A NATION THAT WELCOMES AND RESPECTS ALL RELIGIONS YOU TOOL!!!!
dagoose109, hav u never heard of the Gettysburg Address? Lincoln praises GOD and thanks him for our great country, thus Thanksgiving, u idiot. I think Lincoln knows a tad more than u or ur hero barry scumbag super LIAR. The day is coming Mr Fool, when u will be running around helping the obama police gather up the Christians just like the Nazi's gathered up the Jews. U will be like the lady who runs down the street, "Mr Gestopo, my son said something neg about der fuher"! U fool, wake up!!
@ECwashr---When Lincoln used the word "God", did he specifically reference Christianity and the Bible God? No. There are no specific references to Christianity in any American Documents, and Christianity does not own the word "God" in the first place. America respects Freedom of Belief and From it in case you did not know. Try reading the Treaty of Tripoli, Declaration of Independence, and Constitution---perhaps your Dark Age religious mentality will be enlightened.
dagoose109, u sir r the problem with this country NOT the solution. Please get out! Barry claims to b a Christain yet attacks Christians at every opportunity. Yet when it comes to the muslims, "let them build a mosque on ground zero, let them have time to pray in public schools". U can google the story, Priest arrested while praying in front of white house. Also, obma does not celebrate Christmas, but Ramadon thats a different story. Funny how barry bcomes a Christian during the elections!
@ECwashr----I think Obama is too intelligent to belong to any religion. Unfortunately he has to pander to all the Religious Lunatics in this Nation who hold their Bibles above the Constitution while claiming to be True Patriots. No surprise that all you Paranoid Conspiracy Theorists also happen to be Religious Lunatics. Ironically you support all the Money Changers of the Conservative Religious Right. Heil Trump!
@ECwashr---I will agree with you that Muslims and Islam should not be given any special preferential treatment in this country. Just like Christianity, Islam seeks World Domination. Have you acknowledged how many Islamic Terrorists have been taken out under President Obama? Remember Bin Laden? You will remain uniformed as long as you continue to get all your info from Right Wing Media and Christian Libraries.
dagoose109, I'm sorry let me translate that last post so u can understand, "baa baa baa baa baa Baarack, baa baa baa tell us more lies, we will believe, we will stick r head all the way up your ass and deep in ur pocket even though u couldn't run a lemonaid stand and r a usurper criminal who shld b in jail, baa baa baa"!!
dagoose109, head obama sheep fool, who said ANYTHING about bush? u libs, it the same crap over and over, "its bush's fault, ur a racist". Cant u come up better lies. 4 crying out loud u hav the best LIAR who ever lived in Barry Soratoro. U dont like the U.S. of Jesus, GET OUT! This country is a Christian nation and it was founded on Christian principles despite what obama the scum says. Just read, Priest arrested 4 praying in front of white hs, meanwhile time set aside for muslim prayr inside WH
@ECwashr----Not a single one of you religiots can name even 1 single so-called unique and specific "Christian Principle" which you blindly insist America was founded upon. Not a single one can name a single one!!! Your Right Wing Radio has brainwashed you about the Priest arrest and Muslim prayer in the WH. Try cross-checking your false info, and while you are at it re-read the Constitution and 1st. Amendment. America is not a "Christian One World Government" or Theocracy.
A real Native American will never bow his head down to a dead 33 year old Middle Eastern kid as his Make Believe goD. A true American Secular Government will never jeopardies its international credibility by indorsing religious theocracy.
The make believe goD loop hole was designed by foreign governments to manipulate mankind. A true American Atheist has divorced them self from the Middle Eastern Abrahamic Franchise that promotes a ring around the rose maze of religious dogma that enslaves the freedom of Mankind
Obama is a grifter, pathological liar. Trump said it best, "obama is laughing at the stupidity of Americans". Barry couldnt run a Lemonaid Stand. GOD, Jesus save our nation!!
@ECwashr----Right. We need another religious idiot like Bush. That worked out really well. By the way America is not a Theocracy---- this is not the United States of Jesus.
Alll Christians pray Psalm 109:8 "May obama's (inserted) days be few, may another take his place"! Power of prayer and GOD's will shall remove this GODless usurper, pathological LIAR from office...
First of all, just showing two pictures without barracks face in them is not evidence to support these claims. Secondly, America calls itself the 'land of the free' therefore a man should have the right to choose his religion with no drawbacks..
Fair enough. Semantics cause much misunderstanding in the world. I realize that just because someone's words may sound condescending it does not mean that they are looking down on others. God has already given me an Eternal glimpse of Her Glory and it is Infinitely Greater than words could ever convey. Aloha and Namaste
Obama's words may ring true. But it is not a reason to rejoice. "The nation that forgets God shall be turned into hell." There is only one God who was manifested in His Son, Jesus Christ.
Amen President Obama. We have always been a multicultural and multi religion nation. We will protect that heritage and not give it up to wacko radicals with a single, biased vision. The white boys network is disolving and they are trying to protect their influence despite the emergence of a powerful minority. They must be assimilated or open the door and kick them out. They are finished.
@aballsack----For years I have been soliciting any fanatic out there to name even just 1 so-called "Christian Principle" (specific and unique to Christianity) which they claim America was founded upon. The Religious Right is suffering from Mass Delusion.
@dagoose109 I am not a fanatic, but I have heard many secular extremists more prone tovbigotry and intolerance than most religious Christians and Jews. I'll give your challenge a shot: Private property right stem from the Ten Commandants, found in Deuterotomy (thou shalt not steal, thou shalt not covet) which implies person ownership. "Endowed with inalienable rights" is JudeoChristian, not secular in origin. Secularist believe rights aren't inherent but arbitrary creations of a social compact.
@dogbishop----Thanks for your feedback and the sane reminder that bigotry and intolerance has no boundaries. My challenge was to name any allegedly unique and specific "Christian Principles" which America was supposedly founded upon. Right of Ownership protected from theft and the Inalienable Rights are Universal Principles which cannot be exclusively claimed by anyone anymore than a religion can claim exclusive ownership of God. RSVP
@aballsack You are partly correct: the "government" was not intended to be theologically-based, and to neither endorse nor harrass one religious denomination over another. However, there is no historial doubt that the country itself was imagined by our Founding Fathers to be a "second Israel", culturally and socially oriented toward Judeo-Christian law and principles. The Founders guaranteed that our govenment would be the constrained and unbiased representation and fair arbitor of that society.
You people are Idiots lol. AMERICA IS A MELTING POT!! Its made up of every culture and Religion....It is EXACTLY what the founding Fathers envisioned...NEWSFLASH...The Founding Fathers Were not Christians. SURPRISE!!!!!!
You people are Idiots lol. AMERICA IS A MELTING POT!! Its made up of every culture and Religion....It is EXACTLY what the founding Fathers envisioned...NEWSFLASH...The Founding Fathers Were not Christians. SURPRISE!!!!!!
You people are Idiots lol. AMERICA IS A MELTING POT!! Its made up of every culture and Religion....It is EXACTLY what the founding Fathers envisioned...NEWSFLASH...The Founding Fathers Were not Christians. SURPRISE!!!!!!
@bwbirmin True, not all the founding founders were Christian, but most were. That does not change the fact that this country was founded upon Judeo-Christian principles of jurisprudence stemming from European common law which originated in the canonical doctrine of the Catholic Church, which was the bedrock of European culture for for over 1000 years prior to the founding of this country.
So wait a minute, is this video supposed to be funny? What was the point of that ominous "dark hour" music in the background? Obama's not a rogue Russian general from an action movie. Was I supposed to think to myself "This man is pure evil straight from hell, because he accepted an object offered to him through diplomatic relations!" And when they showed that completely benign Hindu idol with the music behind it, I started laughing my ass off. I could not take this video seriously.
What is wrong about Oboma accepting a gift from a group of Hindu people? Should he have said Screw you you stupid pagan idol worshiping backward people so you Right Wing nut jobs can criticize him for being rude and disrespectful to other nations and making America look like a intolerant nation?
@dallase1----Absolutely! It is simply amazing how Christians denounce all other religions and cultures as evil lies----yet they expect Christianity to be respected as sacred in return! When they reap what they sow they are sooooo offended, and so the insanity and vanity of Christianity lives on.
@dagoose109 I know you can't grasp this fact because you believe life came from non-life and everything just appeared. Only one way can be true. Christianity was never suppose to be friends with the world. I'm not surprised when the rest of the world hates Christians there suppose too. Christianity is suppose to be against the godless, sinful, selfish, hateful, and greed filled world we live in today.
@Amills11 The only people who think life "came from non-life" are theists. As if everything was just magically created from nothing, poof, by the wave of a hand. Please.
@Amills11----Actually I know God/Creator exists personally, and that is why I do not believe in religion. If Christians are so against this world which God Created, then they are in fact calling God a Crappy Creator! Like most Christians, it sounds like you assume and generalize that everyone who is not a Christian is an Atheist.
The Church is a haven for Gay people because they understand God is calling them to repentance. Any minister who tells you that you can "Practice" homosexuality is dead wrong! Scripture clearly tells us to be faithful & remain faithful to God..please read Jude chapter One about false teachers...if you won't believe in God then you will not believe the scriptures.
What do you mean Christians are intolerant...we don't stop anyone from doing anything...if you want to be gay do it or abort your child do it our "current" legislation allows it...all we're SAYING is that behavior is sinful in the eyes of God..ministers are here to relay messages from God Almighty..hate crimes.every sin under the sun isn't "New" with God...Our message is Repent for the Kingdom of God is coming! The wrath of God comes upon children of disobedience. (young,teenage,adult children)
@AlbertaZanoah----If homosexuality is such a "Sin" to Christianity why is it such a haven for homos? How can you possibly deny that the Religious Right is trying to coerce American Politics to impose it's ideology on the rest of the country? I think all religions should be taxed like any other business because I repent from being forced to tithe indirectly to them with my taxes.
ISAIAH 19:3-4 THE SPIRIT OF EGYPT SHALL FAIL IN ITS MIDST;I WILL DESTROY ITS “COUNSEL”:..THE EGYPTIANS WILL I GIVE INTO THE HAND OF THE CRUEL/FIERCE LEADER.DAMASCUS SYRIA–OLDEST CITY,NEVER BEEN DESTROYED(ISAIAH 17:1)ISRAEL DIVIDED(JOEL 3:1-2)JESUS SAID,HIS 2ND COMING,IF U SEE DMASCUS DSTROYED & SRAEL DVIDED.IF U THINK QUAKES R COMMON THINK OF THESE PROPHECIES,THESE R N THE NEWS NOW.1THESSALONIANS 4:17,WE’LL MEET JESUS IN THE CLOUDS(RAPTURE) REPENT!READ BIBLE,MATTHEW 24 –GIV YOUR LIFE TO JESUS.
I believe in God, I believe every word written in the Bible is God inspired and true and written exactly how he planned it to be written. I testify that God is truth and what he says is never false. Therefore, since I believe God is truth. I believe every word he speaks and his written word is truth. I believe in Jesus. I put my faith in Him, and in Him alone. Nothing else will save me from this terrible world we live in. Lord I pray everyone would see you as you are. Amen
stop lookn 4 ways 2 exploit him & take time 4rm ye 1track mind 2 listen & analyze. he's applying something america neve had..EQUALITY! WWAD? ALLmighty wouldnt partake n religion..or either b involved n ALL. b universal wih ye outlook! think we r surrounded by d universe!
HOW do We get RID OF SINNERS...Because YOU JEW, Greek, African, Caucasian, Latino, Asian, INDIAN YOU NEVER were SINNERS! YOU ARE PERFECT , YOU Appoint YOURSELVES as JUDGES..Holy, Lawmakers, Soldiers and EXECUTIONERS of MANkind,!
God gives ALL a choice to believe on Jesus the Son of God... by Choice...this is a Biblical principal..IF it wasn't for Biblical principles minorities WOULDN'T be FREE to serve God...Live....Work & get paid for doing it. Islam is Bondage..Budda was FAT that's gluttony NOT good enough...Who's good enough...NONE Of us ALL have Sinned...Sinners should be punished correct! Yes in God's eyes! THEN WE all are DOOMED to HELL! Our Goal to RID the WORLD of SIN right! U R the Problem! John 3:16-17
@AlbertaZanoah----The Intolerance and Insanity of Christianity is overwhelming. Have you ever read the Constitution? I challenge you to state even 1 of these so-called unique and specific Christian Principles which America was supposedly founded upon. There is absolutely nothing in the Bible that suggests Freedom---much less Freedom of Belief and Equality.
@AlbertaZanoah God gives us a choice? If there is a god, and he made me, then he knows how my brain works and what it would take for me to believe. The only excuse he has for not doing so is not existing.
@AlbertaZanoah I disagree. God does not give ALL a choice to believe on Jesus the Son of God. The Bible very clearly teaches that we are chosen by Christ. To say that WE choose is to give US power over God. This will never happen because God is sovereign over all. Eph 2:8-10 for example.
@Galden172007 Pre-destination is deception from a human point of view, it is essentially fate with divine control and guidance only no option of choice.
God gives us the choice in free will, he gives us the choice of believing what we want to believe, do what we want to do, etc, but this cannot be mistaken for "controlling the world" this is controlling ones desired destination in the road they walk, be it the Lords will.
Ephesians 2:5 "For it is by grace you have been saved" the grace is
John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not
perish but have eternal life." we are saved through the belief in Christ Jesus resurrection by the grace of God sending his begotten Son as a sin offering for mankind.
To believe is to have the choice of true or false from a certain bit of perceived criteria.
@bityote Eph 2:5...well lets go from 4-5 proves my point entirely. 4) But [fn] God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, 5) even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ--by grace you have been saved--. MADE US ALIVE. The action was God's. 2:10 says: For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them. God prepared BEFOREHAND. Predestination.
@Galden172007 If everything is predestined and we have no say or choice of anything we just perceive God carrying us along, yet God causes no man to sin, why then do we sin? God controls all, I think he gives us a choice and works through the choice, and if he does not will the selected choice then he leads us else where or works through the said choice.
@Galden172007 Indeed, but that does not mean we do not have the choice of things in this world. A choice does not mean one controls the world, it means one has a choice of action, belief, etc God controls the outcome, which in my honest opinion further shows the Glory of God and his creation and the feable intelligence of man.
@bityote----Free Will is only a temporal relative appearance in the face of the Absolute, which is the One and Only Will of the Universe and All Creation. Anything we choose has already been accounted for......Everything has already happened in Timeless Oneness.
@dagoose109 that is true, however that does not mean we do not have a choice of action. It is pre-destination to God because of his sovereignty, we see it as free-will if we "choose" to. Just for the sake of wisdom and curiousity, make a choice to make a few choices, study you're thoughts on the choices as you make them with the idea of free will in mind. I think you may see just how much free will of choice we have.
@bityote---Every single choice in this world is predicated all they way back to the beginning of creation and because of the Interconnectedness of All Life, each choice affects another. From our perspective here in Relative Reality, we think we make independent choices, but each and every choice and consequence already exists in the Field of Infinite Possibility....which is God or Absolute Reality. To choose Heaven or Hell is not really a choice at all.
@dagoose109 Firstly I want to quote God displaying his personality and how he works with man. In 1 Chronicles 21:9-12 God literally gives david the choice of the outcome, this displays in a very direct yet specific way that we are given choices. I have to ask isn't infinite possibility a limitless bucket of choices where the outcome is ultimately controlled by God?If a choice of heaven or hell is not an option what did Christ Jesus die for?
@bityote----Since I do not subscribe to the Bible Theory of God, I cannot respond because it has no basis of Reality to me. Vicarious Punishment is utterly immoral and insane to me.
@dagoose109 I can understand our differences in opinion. I simply want to say christianity and science can indeed go hand and hand. The beauty of the choice is you have the choice to follow that road, as I have the choice to follow this road.
You will indeed be in my prayers and I wish you well in life.
@bityote---You are quite open minded compared to other Christians I have encountered who consider an open mind to be an invitation to Satan and demons. I completely respect your choice because you do not insist that your choice must be everyone else's. However, when you state the common Christian cliche "I will keep you in my prayers", what exactly would you be praying for?
@dagoose109 Well honestly I won't get intimate in what is between God and I, but I pray for you're views, life, choices, strength, the road you walk, and that Christ Jesus may guide you to see Him in all his glory, and for you're life and the love for you're brothers and sisters therein. I appriciate you're maturity in this conversation regardless of you're viewpoints, like brothers we converse instead of argue. Regardless of viewpoint, the world needs much, much more of this.
@bityote----You may not see it, but when you pray for others to be like you the Holier than Thou Spiritual Pride factor is pretty blatant. I come across this assumption from Christians all the time; that all Non-Christians are Godless and Lost in Darkness. I totally agree with you that the world would be a better place if everyone respected each others POV and Perception of Reality.
@dagoose109 I hope I did not come off with an over righteous persona, that was not my intent at all. I will simplify my statement, my prayers are for the best of you and you're life, and that God may lead you to see His glory and that you may be filled with the joy I find in walking with Him every day of my life, and if you do not choose that, then that you may still be filled with love and have a comfortable, fruitful life in blessings.
@bityote----It is amazing how anyone can call themselves an American and also insist that we are a "Christian Nation Founded Upon Christian Principles". That is contradictory delusion.
@dagoose109 I am sorry but that is a delusion. Our forefathers founded America in faith in God by christian principles. Simply, to believe that we are not based upon christian beliefs and a nation that stood/stands in faith of God is severe regression of ignorance to be quite honest. We are a melting pot of people and beliefs, however the pot itself believes in God. To say anything else is honestly to be ignorant of what this country was founded on and the beliefs therein.
@dagoose109 I am sorry if I offend you, but you can be an atheist, that's you're choice, but because you choose that, you must then be very aware of how you view things as to not make a delusion of a false foundation for argumentive success of you're atheism and it's support. We may agree to disagree but I feel our forefathers deserve a bit more respect seeing as they did establish the freedom for you to believe in and say what you want to say, regardless of you're current beliefs.
@bityote----No offense, I simply disagree based on Facts and Reality. It sounds like you might be getting all your history from a Christian Library. I challenge you to name even 1 so-called Christian Principle (specific and unique to Christianity) upon which you claim America was founded upon. By the way, just because someone is not a Christian does not automatically make them an Atheist.
@dagoose109 Looking in retrospect I see I was using christianity figuratively for belief in God. I do not have one specific principle, I was referring to our forefathers founding the constitution by faith in God, not necessarily building it by what he builds. Specifically, our constitution was built in faith in God. However our constitutions have religious basis in there character and structure.
@dagoose109 I agree christianity is not the only religion out there, I guess I was mistaken by you're "Since I do not subscribe to the Bible Theory of God" comment, I took that as atheism.
@bityote---Since the majority of Americans are Christians, it is inevitable that Christianity has influenced America. Many of the Founding Fathers were Deists, and no doubt Deism had an influence as well. Since God is the Absolute Reality of the Universe, everyone, everything, and every religion exists because of God and is influenced by God even if not consciously aware of it. However, God and Religion are not the same and there is no Specific Religious Basis in the Constitution.
@dagoose109 Thank you, yet not so open that my brains are falling out. I think close minded fixed mentalities can actually lock one into deception itself because they are not willing to unbiasedly evaluate the situation, though with this being said such a viewpoint must be practiced with severe zeal. A choice is a choice, not a command, you know?
@bityote Christ is not a T.V. Program. Before we are saved we are DEAD in sin. How can a dead man make the choice to follow Christ? He can't. We are made alive in Christ by His mercy and grace. Eph 1:4 is another great example. Romans 6:20-22 also.
@Galden172007 I meant to simplify my logic in a metaphoric statement to share the logic on a more understandable level. If you view "dead in sin" as a literal dead man, then how can a man who is "dead in sin" breathe? I agree 100% we are made alive in Christ by his mercy and grace. If we choose to follow Christ Jesus.
@bityote I did not mean literally dead. Spiritually dead. But when you see a literal DEAD body, can it do anything for itself? No, neither can the spiritually dead. If you are a believer in Christ Jesus it is only because he called you to be His. Because of His love for His chosen people he died on the cross. Soli deo Gloria. Solos Christos
@Galden172007 Well you simply lay your sins before him and trust in his crucifixion and resurrection from the dead to save those who believe he was raised from the dead by the power of God. He calls us to be his, every last one of us, we choose to answer His calling. A call is not a demand or order, its a request and offer. I think you are mistaking old testament Israel and thinking of the new temple Christ Jesus built as Israel. Chosen as those who choose to follow him.
@bityote But we cannot make that decision on our own. Gen 6:5 The LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intention of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.- Always evil...how can we make the decision to follow him? John 17:24 Christ desires that they also, whom you have given me, may be with me where I am. - We were GIVEN-Eph 1:4 chosen before the foundation of the world to be holy and blameless before him--The bible is very clear.
@Galden172007 I can understand that God knew who would choose to follow Christ Jesus before he created the world and man, but that does not mean that he took the choice away from us, that shows his glory. Chosen before the creation of the world, because God knew who would choose him, He did not fix us into predestined damnation, we choose to follow Him. If he does not give us the choice of salvation through belief in Christ Jesus, then why did He create us? sin? faith?
@bityote If you would please give me some scripture to base your beliefs on. I have given you several verses, and there are more, that prove that it is God that chooses us. God is in control of everything that happens. That's why he can work ALL things to the good of those that love Him.
@Galden172007 I have indirectly and directly referred to 1 Timothy 2:3-4, 1 Chronicles 21:9-12, Ephesians 2:5, John 3:16. I can see what you are saying, and I agree that God ultimately controls everything, He gives us the choice of action, pharaoh chose not to believe and tried to stand against God, God knew he would do this prior to, so he used it, that does not mean we don't have a choice. That further shows the sovereignty of God
@Galden172007 I am stating that its a matter of one sided perception to think that God has not given us a choice of belief, we choose to believe in what we choose to believe. God knows what our choice will be and works all things to the good of those who love Him through those choices regardless if one believes in him or not. John 3:16 if God causes no man to sin, and will send no one to hell that is not deserving, how then do we not have a choice?
@bityote Please read romans chapter 9. Also, you have said that God is sovereign, what is your definition of the term? Does God have to learn the future or does he know all things?
@Galden172007 I use sovereign referring to infinite superiority , knowledge, power, etc.
He knows and has control of all things from first to last before He created the world. Though may we not forget about His choice of how to let/make things happen and His personality therein.
@Galden172007 Scriptural referrences I do not have, the Lord is sovergn and I don't feel He will condem anyone unjustly. As Romans 9:19-21 says, the Lord may have made you as a hard arrogent piece of pottery, that does not mean He removed you're choice of belief in Him, it means you're heart has many things in it that need much strength and guidance from the Lord.
@Galden172007 I don't feel this is actually pre-destination, but rather God displaying His love and mercy for us, yet His ultimate power and knowledge. I ask how you feel this supports pre-destination? Can I ask what religion you are in?
@bityote I am reformed. I am a Christian. I urge you not to use your feelings. Look at what it says. ADOPTION, ELECTION...Before they did anything wrong Jacob I have loved, Esau I have hated. It's very clear. It's not that I FEEL it supports pre-destination. I know it does because it's right there in black and white and in the other verses that I already brought to you. Can you show me verses that prove that we choose? Rom 9:11...in order that God's purpose of ELECTION might continue...
@Galden172007----I constantly hear Christians proclaiming that God is not about "Feeling". Do you people just "Read Words" about Jesus, or do you "Feel" his presence in your hearts and souls?
@dagoose109 The point that I was making is that our feelings shouldn't get in the way of God's truth. We are not told to interpret the bible. We should not look at what the Bible says and say "I think this means..." or "I feel this means..." Instead we should seek out His truth.
@Galden172007---I understand, however, there are thousands and thousands of different interpretations of the Bible. Words will always be nebulous. My question is simply yes or no; "Do you feel the Presence of God?Christ in your life?". If you say yes, then is this not greater than interpreting words and dogma?
@dagoose109 I recognize the presence of God and Christ in my life but it is not a human feeling. There is only one interpretation of the bible. The same holy spirit that inspired scripture is the One who gives us interpretation. Men are not free to interpret scripture in a way that suits them. It must mean only what God intended it to mean since he is the author and authors obviously determine their own works.
@Galden172007---I understand that "Feeling the Presence of God" has nothing to do with mundane human emotions. Many Christians I have encountered insist that "Feeling" has nothing to do with God, and this makes it sound like God is nothing more than a belief and a book full of words to them. Each one also implies that their's is the only valid interpretation of the Bible and thus they are the real "True Christians". It is quite absurd to me.
God forbid the president admits other religions exist and *gasp*... He respects them!
I'm so sick of hearing Christians say that this is a Christian nation and we should follow Christian values. There are a lot of other religions that all have good values too! If we can start taking lessons from all different religions the world would be a better, more understanding place.
yentalin12345 1 day ago
@yentalin12345----The Republicans and the Religious Right are destroying this country and trying to turn it into a Christian Theocracy. They hold their Bibles and the 2nd. Amendment over the 1st Amendment. The Republican Candidates are making Obama look more and more like a voice of reason and sanity every day.
dagoose109 23 hours ago
dagoose109, Say what u will about Christianity, we r not the ones slapping bombs on r children and sending them out to kill innocent people. Hey what do u think of Barry spending millions of tax payer funds on a new soccor field for his islam terror pals at gitmo? Great news huh?
ECwashr 2 days ago
@ECwashr---You are right. By comparison Christianity is much less violent than Islam. However, you cannot divorce yourself from Jones Town, Koresh, Abortion Doctor Murderers, the KKK, Christian Militia, The Westboro Baptists, Child Abuse by Brainwashing ie. Jesus Camp, Culture Destroying Missionaries, and the rich history of the Crusades, the Inquisition, and the Salem Witch Trials. But then, any kind of fanaticism can be dangerous---not just religious.
dagoose109 1 day ago
Gas prices soaring, food prices raising, unemployment rising, middle east about to explode, etc. AND what does obama order this week? Thats rigth a new soccor field for the terrorist at gitmo. U know the terrorist who r sworn to kill us all? I guess obama wants 2 make sure his terrorist muslim pals have only the best? Millions of tax payer money to terrorist! They catch r soldiers, they behead them, we catch them, they get 3 hots a shower, the satanic koran and now a new soccor field!!
ECwashr 2 days ago
@ECwashr----Islam is a mirror of Christianity, and that is why Christians hate it so much. Islam is a Cult of Violence which claims to be "Religion of Peace", and Christianity a 'Cult of Judgment pretending to be a "Religion of Love". Both think they own God, when all they really own is a hot steaming pile of dogma doo.
dagoose109 2 days ago
This was a great video to remind me how sane Obama is, compared to the sloped-headed GOPs. Thanks for sharing! VOTE OBAMA!
Xoletta 3 days ago
The Vanity, Insanity, and Holy Hypocrisy of Christianity......God save us from your followers.
dagoose109 3 days ago
@dagoose109 Yeah since your god has taking over our country, it is in much better shape!! Grow a brain drone!!
pianomanroc 3 days ago
@pianomanroc----Of course you Right Wing Facists need someone to blame. What do you think it would be like if McCain and Palin were in charge Einstein??? In any case, your Republican Candidates are the laughing stock of the Western World and every time they open their mouths they make Obama look like a voice of reason and sanity. Thanks!
dagoose109 3 days ago
fuck christianity, long live jesus christ
miku1983 3 days ago
@miku1983 That's like asking, What would it have been like if it snowed yesterday! There're not in charge, this is Obama's economy and mess HE created! Why do they look insane?? B/C they want GOV out of your life? They want you to work hard and make something of your self? They want to protect life? They want less taxes? Please elaborate on your dumb-founded remark! By the way, my 2 yr old niece would run the country better than Obummer, so yeah, Palin and treason boy Mcccain would have too!
pianomanroc 2 days ago
@pianomanroc yes, sure, all White people even morons like Palin would run the country better than Obama.
And Bush & Clinton had nothing to do with the mess the USA is in today. Obama came into office when the USA was 42 trillion in debt but that's probably Obama's fault too, he somehow infiltrated Bush & Clinton's treasury.
The USA loses about 30 billion per month in its credit card wars funded by Communist China. That too is Obama's fault even though the wars were started by his predecessors.
realismYHF1 2 days ago
@realismYHF1 Mr now it all, how much debt were we in when your failure of a leader took over??
pianomanroc 2 days ago
@pianomanroc Obama inherited an 8 trillion debt & 2 illegal wars that cost over 30 billion each month. Funny how every country Europeans run eventually end up the same. It's also astounding that every country European's run, wealth is built on slavery, plunder, exploitation, stealing, illegal wars & illegal constraints/control of trade +mass murder.
Incredible that with all that foul play you still manage to go bankrupt. The only failure is heathens like you who want Obama to clean up your mess
realismYHF1 1 day ago
@pianomanroc----Apparently you are smoking Bibles, snorting them, shooting them, and blending them up in Holy Water and chugging them. Is that a Bible in front of thee or a pre-frontal lobotomy? In any case, a good exorcism might help you overcome your Right Wing-nut addiction to the "Opiate of the Masses."
dagoose109 2 days ago
@dagoose109 Yeah such a nut job I am because I have morals and stick to my convictions!! Damn if only we had more drug riddled, anything under the sun goes, would rather smoke crack then pray mentality minded people like you, the world would be much better! Get your mind right ma'am, your the one smoking the opiate of the masses by bowing down obama who is this countrys greatest enemy right now!
pianomanroc 2 days ago
@pianomanroc----Right. Everyone in the world who is not a Christian has no morals or conscience. You must be very proud to have a book filled with moral atrocities to guide you. Arkarkark
dagoose109 2 days ago
I love the dramatic satanic music isn the background hahahaha ooooooo scary!!!
LMMHowe 3 days ago
dagoose109, so much for free speech and views in this country. I cannot post anything on that Young Turks site. Signs of things to come my friend, starts slow and then builds just like in hitlers Germany. "Sieg Heil Huessien Obama, Sieg Heil Huessien Obama"! That is kind of catchy huh? GOD help us!! Psalm 109:8, "May obama's days be few, may another take his place of leadership".
ECwashr 4 days ago
@ECwashr----I find that hard to believe, however, I have been blocked from exercising my Freedom of Speech on some Christian sites. I appreciate your submission of Deuteronomy 15:1-2, but I am not sure a 7 year debt forgiving is a "Founding Principle" like Human Liberty & Equality, Freedom of Belief, Innocent Until Proven Guilty, A Representative Democracy, A Constitution Which Protects the Rights of All, Fair & Impartial Justice, Gender Equality, Freedom of Speech and Press etc.
dagoose109 4 days ago
@dagoose109 "founded" is up for debate. However it's a Christian nation by majority. So much so that Christian principles are imbedded in the culture. For example. Debt falling of of your credit after 7 years is directly link to Deuteronomy 15:1-2 "At the end of every seven years you shall grant a release of debts." Christianity is America to a certain degree. Removing Christianity would destroy this nation from the inside out.
chestveeg 4 days ago
We never were a Christian Nation and never will be a Christian Nation or we would be no different from any other Theocracy. There is not a single Christian Principle unique and specific to Christianity upon which America was founded.
dagoose109 5 days ago
@dagoose109 Lay off the pipe ma'am and do some research before you make yourself look like a complete jack ass!!
pianomanroc 2 days ago
If he didn't write that himself he should have fired his speech writer on the spot. He almost seemed to be editing it after saying it because his "at least not just" statement seemed like bad english and not pre written. He could have easily said we are a nation of (blah blah blah) and left out the "no longer Christian" part. Then his message that the country is a melting pot would have been less offensive.
chestveeg 5 days ago
@chestveeg===I totally agree with you. "We are no longer a Christian Nation" implies that we once were some sort of "Christian Theocracy" and that simply is not true.
dagoose109 4 days ago
Dagoose109, anyone, anything would be better than Barry Soratoro. Barry is the greatest fraud ever in the history of this country. "Lets give him the Noble Peace Prize". Still waiting to hear what that was for? Oh wait, its because he is black, we do live in a PC world...
ECwashr 6 days ago
@ECwashr----I think Obama was shocked that he go the Nobel Peace Prize! Since he did not get us out of all the preemptive wars that your Republican pals got us into, I don't think he deserved it either. However, I certainly do not think he deserves all the disrespect and bigotry which spews forth from your side of the aisle. Aloha
dagoose109 5 days ago
Dagoose109, right now I would say Obama is the divisive too in this country and he is doing it on purpose. ABSpryteCube, and u r a drooling mindless obama sheep, who will do anything to protect ur hitler, "attack" anyone who dares speak the truth about barry hitler. U r the problim not the solution. Barry wipes his ass just like u do, he has never accomplished ANYTHING other than being the best LIAR and black, which in this PC world is all he needs thanks to fools like u. "BAA BAA BARack"
ECwashr 6 days ago
@ECwashr-----It has always amazed me how the Religious Right came to marry the Republican Conservatives since they are the antithesis to Jesus. But then Holy Hypocrisy is the Foundation of Fundamentalism. Who ya gonna vote for this time? Fruit Blingbitch, Rick Insanitorium, or Mitt the Moron???
dagoose109 6 days ago
lol this video has NO POINT, the constitution calls for a SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE, Obama is following that principle dipshits
ABSpryteCube 1 week ago
@ABSpryteCube Before you make your self look like an idiot, which mind you ain't hard to do! Read the original constitution and tell me where it says sep of church n state!
pianomanroc 2 days ago
dagoose109, how pathetic obama the muslim once again bowing down to a muslim leader? Actually apologizing to Afgan pres over koran burning. The soldiers were doing what the santanic koran says, the prisoners had written on the pages, the koran says to burn any muslim rag that has been scribbled in. What does r pathetic muslim usurper do, get on his knees once again for a muslim leader! How bout karzai apologizing about the 70 US Soldiers now murdered by his troops, who r funded/trained by US
ECwashr 1 week ago
@ECwashr----I would just as soon burn every Koran and bring light into the world, but I do not think another Christian Crusade is anything Jesus would condone. Religion is the root of division.
dagoose109 1 week ago
@ECwashr But Islam is such a peaceful religion!! hahahaha Yeah right!!
pianomanroc 2 days ago
@pianomanroc
Ya, lots of violent stuff going on in Islamic history....
You remember that story where a prince married a girl without her fathers permission, so her father had him and his whole city castrated?
Or that time the leader of Islam ordered millions of millions of people to be killed for thinking differently?
O wait no, that was all christianity... all religions have violence in them
yentalin12345 1 day ago
We NEVER WERE a Christian Nation! The founding fathers themselves said this! America was not founded on Christianity. There is no State religion. I'm a Christian and even I think you zealots are completely off your rocker.
razgriz009 1 week ago
atrumira, u r so brainwashed by obma loving media. The dems took the Senate and House in 2006. It was there policies they jammed down Americans throat that caused the housing collaspe and the economy to flounder. As a member of the Senate, Obama is EVEN more responsible for this "mess" than bush. When criminal barry took office unemployment was at 5%, gas at $1.89 a gal. Obama is a disgrace and a complete failure! WAKE UP, he himself calls people like u, "useful idiots". Obama worst pres EVER!!
ECwashr 1 week ago
@ECwashr----Christians and the Religious Right will inevitably vote for the Holy Hypocrites of the Conservative Republican fold. Your candidates stand for smaller government and less government control yet they want an expanded government to mandate their moral contraception ideology upon all the women in America. Putting all gay Americans in concentration camps is probably on their agenda as well. Religiots.
dagoose109 1 week ago
ECwashr: "There is another saying, "if u voted for obama in 2008 to prove ur not a racist..."
And there's another saying (just invented now): "Only a true blithering halfwit would have voted for McCain & his life support system for the female reproductive system, who would have been a (at the time) 72 yr old's (with a previous history of heart attacks) heart-beat away from being President of the United States.
atrumira 1 week ago
atrumira, AGAIN with bush nonsense! There is another saying, "if u voted for obama in 2008 to prove ur not a racist, vote against him 2012 to prove your not an idiot"! All the problems facing r country, economy, gas prices, soaring food prices, middle east, etc, and what is this clown doing? Going after 1st Amendment Religious rights!! Barry couldn't lead a high school marching band! "The US has 57 states"! What a fool! Loved that day he was locked out of the W House, HILAROUS buffoon!!
ECwashr 1 week ago
@ECwashr "Bush is gone,quit blaming him..."
Bush is gone in body yes,but not in deeds. The mess this christard inflicted not only on the U.S. but on the rest of the world will take a decade or more to fix.
Or maybe you're hoping for a miracle,do u think Obama shud just clasp his hands together & pray to your invisible wood carving bastard,for jesus to stop for 1 moment smashing asteroids into planets & burning the image of his mother into pieces of toast & instead wave his magic wand :D
atrumira 1 week ago
dagoose109, there u go with the bush crap. I did not like bush, he was nothing but a puppet 4 his father, who I really dislike. "New World Order, New World Order". Bush is gone, quit blaming him 4 all of obama's failures, it really is ridiculous. ANY of the Republican candidates could not do as bad as Barry Soratoro, Harrison J Bounel, Barrack Huessien, WHATEVER his real name is, if they tried! "He was a community organizer"! BIG F'n DEAL, so was Joe Stalin for Lenin.
ECwashr 1 week ago
dagoose109, 4got, it was Barrys genius plan to not only let the terrorist free in G.Bay but disperse them across the U.S.A. Not hard to understand Y one wld think Barry is 1 of them. So now ur telling us what Lincoln was thinking when he said the word GOD? Only from a liberal cld one hear such nonsense. Did u c Iran put to death a Christian yesterday? AND where was Barry's admin in protest? He was too busy having a party at the WH on the tax payers, he hired Mick Jagger. Ucant make ths stuff up
ECwashr 1 week ago
dagoose109, oh and ur getting the truth from Rachel Meadow, Chris Mathews, cbs, abc, nbc, msnbc, cnn, u know the Obma Networks, ALL Obama ALL the time! To quote Mathews, "I get a tingling up my leg everytime obama lies, I mean speaks". Sounds like unbiased journalism there! Barry did continue the bush wars but he also pardoned the muslim terrorist who bombed the Cole, was in favor of a mosque on ground zero and continues to give billions to M.East countries who call 4 r destruction. Barry=muslim
ECwashr 1 week ago
dagoose109, curious, where is the trillions of taxpayer funds barry gave to Solyndra? Barry embezzled to his bank account and the dem lib party, thats where. But u don't care, barry can committ ANY criminal act and u sheep will back him all the way to hell. Just like the fool who backed hitler followed his every word and lie right to hell. "SIEG HEIL OBAMA, SIEG HEIL OBAMA, SIEG HEIL OBAMA, baa baa, we shall round up the Christians and Jews, just tell us when Der Fuher Obama, SIEG HEIL OBAMA!!
ECwashr 1 week ago
@ECwashr----Obama is not perfect and he has disappointed me on many issues, but he is infinitely better than your idiot Bush. To be honest, I don't think any U.S. President runs this country, and they are more like figureheads and puppets of some sinister powers who remain under the radar. We already know that the greed and power of Big Banks, Corporations, and Pharma has no allegiance to America. Your Republican candidates are such a bad joke that it is actually funny!
dagoose109 1 week ago
dragoose109, obama is clever when it comes to his lies but without his teleprompter he is a blithering idiot! When is the last time barry huessien had a press conference? Wld u jump off a cliff if barry told u too? I bet u wld, "baa baa, yes Der Fuher Obama"! Fast n Furious, ACORN, Fanny, Freddie, thats right, obama got millions from both, now 3 CEOs from Fan/Fred r in Barrys admin, surprise surprise. Barry is the most CORRUPT politician in the history of our Christian nation. GOD help us!!
ECwashr 1 week ago
@ECwashr "obama is clever when it comes to his lies but without his teleprompter he is a blithering idiot!"
As opposed to your fellow jesus' knob gobbler G.W. who produced some of these memorable shining turds:
''There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again''
''You can fool some of the people all of the time & those are the ones you need to concentrate on.''
atrumira 1 week ago
God is about to pour out his holy blessing on the United States of America and Brittian and its allies!!! =) Mush love to all the world!!! =)
RessurectingTheDead 1 week ago
WE ARENT A CHRISTIAN NATION
saintlaurentb 1 week ago
@saintlaurentb : I am a believer in God and Yeshua..call me Christian if you want, but this country is pagan. They sure made us believe it was Christian for awhile, but it has never been so.
IsaRefreshingSpirit 1 day ago
May the true God bless Obama. In other words not the idiotic mythical god of the OT..yahweh
onyx721811 1 week ago
great editing work, you are a propaganda spreading neanderthal! Truth is we're not a christian nation, we're at war for oil, not for freedom. we dont give to the poor in the form of healthcare. we restrict the lives of people for the sake of traditional belief rather than letting them have their consensual freedom, a freedom we all deserve. dont be scared, as a christian you have hope, dont spread fear, fear only god. k, peace out.
1lcsmash 1 week ago
@1lcsmash ABSOLUTELY!!!!
ABSpryteCube 1 week ago
dagoose109, question, who wld change their name from Barry Soratoro to Huessein Obama unless they were muslim? Cassius Clay to M. Ali, get my point fool? Barry Soratoro, Harrison Bounel, Huessein or WHATEVER his real name is, is a muslim. He makes a fool out of all who voted 4 him. Like Trump said a couple weeks ago, "obama is laughing at the stupidity of Americans". He was talking about u obama sheep! Here comes lib 101, attack Trump, attack the messenger, never mind the truth. U Jackass!
ECwashr 1 week ago
@ECwashr YOU ARE A FUNDAMENTALIST, RADICAL, OBSCENE OBNOXIOUS MAN NOT WORTHY OF CRITICIZING OBAMA FOR BEING MUSLIM BECAUSE THE CONSTITUTION ALLOWS IT!!!!!! HE IS ALLOWED TO BE A MUSLIM!!!! ALTHOUGH HE ISN'T, STOP THE BRAINWASH, THE USA WAS NEVER A CHRISTIAN NATION!!! NEVER!!! NEVER!!!! NEVER!!! IT IS A NATION THAT WELCOMES AND RESPECTS ALL RELIGIONS YOU TOOL!!!!
ABSpryteCube 1 week ago
dagoose109, hav u never heard of the Gettysburg Address? Lincoln praises GOD and thanks him for our great country, thus Thanksgiving, u idiot. I think Lincoln knows a tad more than u or ur hero barry scumbag super LIAR. The day is coming Mr Fool, when u will be running around helping the obama police gather up the Christians just like the Nazi's gathered up the Jews. U will be like the lady who runs down the street, "Mr Gestopo, my son said something neg about der fuher"! U fool, wake up!!
ECwashr 1 week ago
@ECwashr---When Lincoln used the word "God", did he specifically reference Christianity and the Bible God? No. There are no specific references to Christianity in any American Documents, and Christianity does not own the word "God" in the first place. America respects Freedom of Belief and From it in case you did not know. Try reading the Treaty of Tripoli, Declaration of Independence, and Constitution---perhaps your Dark Age religious mentality will be enlightened.
dagoose109 1 week ago
dagoose109, u sir r the problem with this country NOT the solution. Please get out! Barry claims to b a Christain yet attacks Christians at every opportunity. Yet when it comes to the muslims, "let them build a mosque on ground zero, let them have time to pray in public schools". U can google the story, Priest arrested while praying in front of white house. Also, obma does not celebrate Christmas, but Ramadon thats a different story. Funny how barry bcomes a Christian during the elections!
ECwashr 1 week ago
@ECwashr----I think Obama is too intelligent to belong to any religion. Unfortunately he has to pander to all the Religious Lunatics in this Nation who hold their Bibles above the Constitution while claiming to be True Patriots. No surprise that all you Paranoid Conspiracy Theorists also happen to be Religious Lunatics. Ironically you support all the Money Changers of the Conservative Religious Right. Heil Trump!
dagoose109 1 week ago
@ECwashr---I will agree with you that Muslims and Islam should not be given any special preferential treatment in this country. Just like Christianity, Islam seeks World Domination. Have you acknowledged how many Islamic Terrorists have been taken out under President Obama? Remember Bin Laden? You will remain uniformed as long as you continue to get all your info from Right Wing Media and Christian Libraries.
dagoose109 1 week ago
dagoose109, I'm sorry let me translate that last post so u can understand, "baa baa baa baa baa Baarack, baa baa baa tell us more lies, we will believe, we will stick r head all the way up your ass and deep in ur pocket even though u couldn't run a lemonaid stand and r a usurper criminal who shld b in jail, baa baa baa"!!
ECwashr 1 week ago
dagoose109, head obama sheep fool, who said ANYTHING about bush? u libs, it the same crap over and over, "its bush's fault, ur a racist". Cant u come up better lies. 4 crying out loud u hav the best LIAR who ever lived in Barry Soratoro. U dont like the U.S. of Jesus, GET OUT! This country is a Christian nation and it was founded on Christian principles despite what obama the scum says. Just read, Priest arrested 4 praying in front of white hs, meanwhile time set aside for muslim prayr inside WH
ECwashr 1 week ago
@ECwashr----Not a single one of you religiots can name even 1 single so-called unique and specific "Christian Principle" which you blindly insist America was founded upon. Not a single one can name a single one!!! Your Right Wing Radio has brainwashed you about the Priest arrest and Muslim prayer in the WH. Try cross-checking your false info, and while you are at it re-read the Constitution and 1st. Amendment. America is not a "Christian One World Government" or Theocracy.
dagoose109 1 week ago
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A real Native American will never bow his head down to a dead 33 year old Middle Eastern kid as his Make Believe goD. A true American Secular Government will never jeopardies its international credibility by indorsing religious theocracy.
MagicTellaVision 1 week ago
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The make believe goD loop hole was designed by foreign governments to manipulate mankind. A true American Atheist has divorced them self from the Middle Eastern Abrahamic Franchise that promotes a ring around the rose maze of religious dogma that enslaves the freedom of Mankind
MagicTellaVision 1 week ago
Obama is a grifter, pathological liar. Trump said it best, "obama is laughing at the stupidity of Americans". Barry couldnt run a Lemonaid Stand. GOD, Jesus save our nation!!
ECwashr 1 week ago
@ECwashr
Happy President's Day Barrick :)
onyx7218 1 week ago
@ECwashr----Right. We need another religious idiot like Bush. That worked out really well. By the way America is not a Theocracy---- this is not the United States of Jesus.
dagoose109 1 week ago
Alll Christians pray Psalm 109:8 "May obama's (inserted) days be few, may another take his place"! Power of prayer and GOD's will shall remove this GODless usurper, pathological LIAR from office...
ECwashr 1 week ago
@ECwashr
Obama is right and he is your Lord and redeemer.
Stop mocking him and show some respect..LOL
MsCultcrusher 1 week ago
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Jesus is coming soon, repent people, repent before it is to late.
storastalandiheimi 2 weeks ago
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storastalandiheimi 2 weeks ago
Who cares what religeon we are as a nation I am Athiest.
obmoder1 2 weeks ago
First of all, just showing two pictures without barracks face in them is not evidence to support these claims. Secondly, America calls itself the 'land of the free' therefore a man should have the right to choose his religion with no drawbacks..
MrSamm14 2 weeks ago
WE, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA DOES NOT NOW, HAS NEVER HAD AND WILL NOT EVER HAVE AN OFFICIAL STATE RELIGION!
d14d 2 weeks ago
Fair enough. Semantics cause much misunderstanding in the world. I realize that just because someone's words may sound condescending it does not mean that they are looking down on others. God has already given me an Eternal glimpse of Her Glory and it is Infinitely Greater than words could ever convey. Aloha and Namaste
dagoose109 2 weeks ago
Obama's words may ring true. But it is not a reason to rejoice. "The nation that forgets God shall be turned into hell." There is only one God who was manifested in His Son, Jesus Christ.
checkitout7ification 3 weeks ago 2
Amen President Obama. We have always been a multicultural and multi religion nation. We will protect that heritage and not give it up to wacko radicals with a single, biased vision. The white boys network is disolving and they are trying to protect their influence despite the emergence of a powerful minority. They must be assimilated or open the door and kick them out. They are finished.
carlobari60 3 weeks ago
I love the music... It is so sappy and dire for absolutely no reason.
Kilmoran 3 weeks ago
For all that really think this country was founded on xtianity please read the Treaty of Tripoli. Do some research.
aballsack 4 weeks ago
@aballsack----For years I have been soliciting any fanatic out there to name even just 1 so-called "Christian Principle" (specific and unique to Christianity) which they claim America was founded upon. The Religious Right is suffering from Mass Delusion.
dagoose109 4 weeks ago
@dagoose109 I am not a fanatic, but I have heard many secular extremists more prone tovbigotry and intolerance than most religious Christians and Jews. I'll give your challenge a shot: Private property right stem from the Ten Commandants, found in Deuterotomy (thou shalt not steal, thou shalt not covet) which implies person ownership. "Endowed with inalienable rights" is JudeoChristian, not secular in origin. Secularist believe rights aren't inherent but arbitrary creations of a social compact.
dogbishop 3 weeks ago
@dogbishop----Thanks for your feedback and the sane reminder that bigotry and intolerance has no boundaries. My challenge was to name any allegedly unique and specific "Christian Principles" which America was supposedly founded upon. Right of Ownership protected from theft and the Inalienable Rights are Universal Principles which cannot be exclusively claimed by anyone anymore than a religion can claim exclusive ownership of God. RSVP
dagoose109 3 weeks ago
@aballsack You are partly correct: the "government" was not intended to be theologically-based, and to neither endorse nor harrass one religious denomination over another. However, there is no historial doubt that the country itself was imagined by our Founding Fathers to be a "second Israel", culturally and socially oriented toward Judeo-Christian law and principles. The Founders guaranteed that our govenment would be the constrained and unbiased representation and fair arbitor of that society.
dogbishop 3 weeks ago
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You people are Idiots lol. AMERICA IS A MELTING POT!! Its made up of every culture and Religion....It is EXACTLY what the founding Fathers envisioned...NEWSFLASH...The Founding Fathers Were not Christians. SURPRISE!!!!!!
bwbirmin 1 month ago
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You people are Idiots lol. AMERICA IS A MELTING POT!! Its made up of every culture and Religion....It is EXACTLY what the founding Fathers envisioned...NEWSFLASH...The Founding Fathers Were not Christians. SURPRISE!!!!!!
bwbirmin 1 month ago
You people are Idiots lol. AMERICA IS A MELTING POT!! Its made up of every culture and Religion....It is EXACTLY what the founding Fathers envisioned...NEWSFLASH...The Founding Fathers Were not Christians. SURPRISE!!!!!!
bwbirmin 1 month ago
@bwbirmin True, not all the founding founders were Christian, but most were. That does not change the fact that this country was founded upon Judeo-Christian principles of jurisprudence stemming from European common law which originated in the canonical doctrine of the Catholic Church, which was the bedrock of European culture for for over 1000 years prior to the founding of this country.
dogbishop 3 weeks ago
Wow, never seen a better example of fear-mongering and total crap before.
Netheeros 1 month ago
FUCK YOU BARRY SOTO...MARZIST PUSSY.
MotorsbyShooter 1 month ago
So wait a minute, is this video supposed to be funny? What was the point of that ominous "dark hour" music in the background? Obama's not a rogue Russian general from an action movie. Was I supposed to think to myself "This man is pure evil straight from hell, because he accepted an object offered to him through diplomatic relations!" And when they showed that completely benign Hindu idol with the music behind it, I started laughing my ass off. I could not take this video seriously.
jerboze 1 month ago
Why does it matter what he believes in. I'm
not going let his views change my beliefs in Jesus
mike032192 1 month ago
Tax Religion!!! It is not a Non-Prophet Business.
dagoose109 1 month ago
What is wrong about Oboma accepting a gift from a group of Hindu people? Should he have said Screw you you stupid pagan idol worshiping backward people so you Right Wing nut jobs can criticize him for being rude and disrespectful to other nations and making America look like a intolerant nation?
dallase1 1 month ago
@dallase1----Absolutely! It is simply amazing how Christians denounce all other religions and cultures as evil lies----yet they expect Christianity to be respected as sacred in return! When they reap what they sow they are sooooo offended, and so the insanity and vanity of Christianity lives on.
dagoose109 1 month ago
@dagoose109 I know you can't grasp this fact because you believe life came from non-life and everything just appeared. Only one way can be true. Christianity was never suppose to be friends with the world. I'm not surprised when the rest of the world hates Christians there suppose too. Christianity is suppose to be against the godless, sinful, selfish, hateful, and greed filled world we live in today.
Amills11 1 month ago
@Amills11 The only people who think life "came from non-life" are theists. As if everything was just magically created from nothing, poof, by the wave of a hand. Please.
DirtyBriefcase 1 month ago
@Amills11----Actually I know God/Creator exists personally, and that is why I do not believe in religion. If Christians are so against this world which God Created, then they are in fact calling God a Crappy Creator! Like most Christians, it sounds like you assume and generalize that everyone who is not a Christian is an Atheist.
dagoose109 1 month ago
@Amills11 Aside from all the godless, sinful, selfish, hateful, and greedy Christians I assume is what you mean to say.
Kilmoran 3 weeks ago
thank you for speaking the truth, Mr Obama....
MsFolshqip 1 month ago
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MsFolshqip 1 month ago
The Church is a haven for Gay people because they understand God is calling them to repentance. Any minister who tells you that you can "Practice" homosexuality is dead wrong! Scripture clearly tells us to be faithful & remain faithful to God..please read Jude chapter One about false teachers...if you won't believe in God then you will not believe the scriptures.
AlbertaZanoah 1 month ago
What do you mean Christians are intolerant...we don't stop anyone from doing anything...if you want to be gay do it or abort your child do it our "current" legislation allows it...all we're SAYING is that behavior is sinful in the eyes of God..ministers are here to relay messages from God Almighty..hate crimes.every sin under the sun isn't "New" with God...Our message is Repent for the Kingdom of God is coming! The wrath of God comes upon children of disobedience. (young,teenage,adult children)
AlbertaZanoah 1 month ago
@AlbertaZanoah----If homosexuality is such a "Sin" to Christianity why is it such a haven for homos? How can you possibly deny that the Religious Right is trying to coerce American Politics to impose it's ideology on the rest of the country? I think all religions should be taxed like any other business because I repent from being forced to tithe indirectly to them with my taxes.
dagoose109 1 month ago
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ENTERRAPTURE20 1 month ago
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I believe in God, I believe every word written in the Bible is God inspired and true and written exactly how he planned it to be written. I testify that God is truth and what he says is never false. Therefore, since I believe God is truth. I believe every word he speaks and his written word is truth. I believe in Jesus. I put my faith in Him, and in Him alone. Nothing else will save me from this terrible world we live in. Lord I pray everyone would see you as you are. Amen
blattdanielmain 1 month ago
stop lookn 4 ways 2 exploit him & take time 4rm ye 1track mind 2 listen & analyze. he's applying something america neve had..EQUALITY! WWAD? ALLmighty wouldnt partake n religion..or either b involved n ALL. b universal wih ye outlook! think we r surrounded by d universe!
EvanALLmightE 1 month ago
Bring me a talking serpent and I may consider converting.
AscendingParadigm 1 month ago
HOW do We get RID OF SINNERS...Because YOU JEW, Greek, African, Caucasian, Latino, Asian, INDIAN YOU NEVER were SINNERS! YOU ARE PERFECT , YOU Appoint YOURSELVES as JUDGES..Holy, Lawmakers, Soldiers and EXECUTIONERS of MANkind,!
AlbertaZanoah 1 month ago
@AlbertaZanoah ANd I Don'T KNow hOW tO USe THe ... CaPS loCK ,
Equifish 1 month ago
God gives ALL a choice to believe on Jesus the Son of God... by Choice...this is a Biblical principal..IF it wasn't for Biblical principles minorities WOULDN'T be FREE to serve God...Live....Work & get paid for doing it. Islam is Bondage..Budda was FAT that's gluttony NOT good enough...Who's good enough...NONE Of us ALL have Sinned...Sinners should be punished correct! Yes in God's eyes! THEN WE all are DOOMED to HELL! Our Goal to RID the WORLD of SIN right! U R the Problem! John 3:16-17
AlbertaZanoah 1 month ago
@AlbertaZanoah----The Intolerance and Insanity of Christianity is overwhelming. Have you ever read the Constitution? I challenge you to state even 1 of these so-called unique and specific Christian Principles which America was supposedly founded upon. There is absolutely nothing in the Bible that suggests Freedom---much less Freedom of Belief and Equality.
dagoose109 1 month ago
@AlbertaZanoah God gives us a choice? If there is a god, and he made me, then he knows how my brain works and what it would take for me to believe. The only excuse he has for not doing so is not existing.
TheAthiCon 1 month ago
@AlbertaZanoah I disagree. God does not give ALL a choice to believe on Jesus the Son of God. The Bible very clearly teaches that we are chosen by Christ. To say that WE choose is to give US power over God. This will never happen because God is sovereign over all. Eph 2:8-10 for example.
Galden172007 3 weeks ago
@Galden172007 Pre-destination is deception from a human point of view, it is essentially fate with divine control and guidance only no option of choice.
God gives us the choice in free will, he gives us the choice of believing what we want to believe, do what we want to do, etc, but this cannot be mistaken for "controlling the world" this is controlling ones desired destination in the road they walk, be it the Lords will.
bityote 3 weeks ago
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bityote 3 weeks ago
@Galden172007 (Cont.)
Ephesians 2:5 "For it is by grace you have been saved" the grace is
John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not
perish but have eternal life." we are saved through the belief in Christ Jesus resurrection by the grace of God sending his begotten Son as a sin offering for mankind.
To believe is to have the choice of true or false from a certain bit of perceived criteria.
bityote 3 weeks ago
@bityote Eph 2:5...well lets go from 4-5 proves my point entirely. 4) But [fn] God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, 5) even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ--by grace you have been saved--. MADE US ALIVE. The action was God's. 2:10 says: For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them. God prepared BEFOREHAND. Predestination.
Galden172007 2 weeks ago
@Galden172007 If everything is predestined and we have no say or choice of anything we just perceive God carrying us along, yet God causes no man to sin, why then do we sin? God controls all, I think he gives us a choice and works through the choice, and if he does not will the selected choice then he leads us else where or works through the said choice.
bityote 2 weeks ago
@Galden172007 Indeed, but that does not mean we do not have the choice of things in this world. A choice does not mean one controls the world, it means one has a choice of action, belief, etc God controls the outcome, which in my honest opinion further shows the Glory of God and his creation and the feable intelligence of man.
God Bless
bityote 2 weeks ago
@Galden172007 We all have choices to make, if you choose to watch a T.V. show, that does not give you power over
the outcome of the T.V. show you chose, that gives you the option of choosing what T.V. show you want to watch
based off of you're thoughts and beliefs of the T.V. show.
God gives us the choice of salvation through belief in Christ Jesus resurrection from the dead.
bityote 3 weeks ago
@bityote----Free Will is only a temporal relative appearance in the face of the Absolute, which is the One and Only Will of the Universe and All Creation. Anything we choose has already been accounted for......Everything has already happened in Timeless Oneness.
dagoose109 3 weeks ago
@dagoose109 that is true, however that does not mean we do not have a choice of action. It is pre-destination to God because of his sovereignty, we see it as free-will if we "choose" to. Just for the sake of wisdom and curiousity, make a choice to make a few choices, study you're thoughts on the choices as you make them with the idea of free will in mind. I think you may see just how much free will of choice we have.
God Bless
bityote 2 weeks ago
@bityote---Every single choice in this world is predicated all they way back to the beginning of creation and because of the Interconnectedness of All Life, each choice affects another. From our perspective here in Relative Reality, we think we make independent choices, but each and every choice and consequence already exists in the Field of Infinite Possibility....which is God or Absolute Reality. To choose Heaven or Hell is not really a choice at all.
dagoose109 2 weeks ago
@dagoose109 Firstly I want to quote God displaying his personality and how he works with man. In 1 Chronicles 21:9-12 God literally gives david the choice of the outcome, this displays in a very direct yet specific way that we are given choices. I have to ask isn't infinite possibility a limitless bucket of choices where the outcome is ultimately controlled by God?If a choice of heaven or hell is not an option what did Christ Jesus die for?
God Bless
bityote 2 weeks ago
@bityote----Since I do not subscribe to the Bible Theory of God, I cannot respond because it has no basis of Reality to me. Vicarious Punishment is utterly immoral and insane to me.
dagoose109 2 weeks ago
@dagoose109 I can understand our differences in opinion. I simply want to say christianity and science can indeed go hand and hand. The beauty of the choice is you have the choice to follow that road, as I have the choice to follow this road.
You will indeed be in my prayers and I wish you well in life.
God Bless
bityote 2 weeks ago
@bityote---You are quite open minded compared to other Christians I have encountered who consider an open mind to be an invitation to Satan and demons. I completely respect your choice because you do not insist that your choice must be everyone else's. However, when you state the common Christian cliche "I will keep you in my prayers", what exactly would you be praying for?
dagoose109 2 weeks ago
@dagoose109 Well honestly I won't get intimate in what is between God and I, but I pray for you're views, life, choices, strength, the road you walk, and that Christ Jesus may guide you to see Him in all his glory, and for you're life and the love for you're brothers and sisters therein. I appriciate you're maturity in this conversation regardless of you're viewpoints, like brothers we converse instead of argue. Regardless of viewpoint, the world needs much, much more of this.
bityote 2 weeks ago
@bityote----You may not see it, but when you pray for others to be like you the Holier than Thou Spiritual Pride factor is pretty blatant. I come across this assumption from Christians all the time; that all Non-Christians are Godless and Lost in Darkness. I totally agree with you that the world would be a better place if everyone respected each others POV and Perception of Reality.
dagoose109 2 weeks ago
@dagoose109 I hope I did not come off with an over righteous persona, that was not my intent at all. I will simplify my statement, my prayers are for the best of you and you're life, and that God may lead you to see His glory and that you may be filled with the joy I find in walking with Him every day of my life, and if you do not choose that, then that you may still be filled with love and have a comfortable, fruitful life in blessings.
God Bless
bityote 2 weeks ago
@bityote----It is amazing how anyone can call themselves an American and also insist that we are a "Christian Nation Founded Upon Christian Principles". That is contradictory delusion.
dagoose109 2 weeks ago
@dagoose109 I am sorry but that is a delusion. Our forefathers founded America in faith in God by christian principles. Simply, to believe that we are not based upon christian beliefs and a nation that stood/stands in faith of God is severe regression of ignorance to be quite honest. We are a melting pot of people and beliefs, however the pot itself believes in God. To say anything else is honestly to be ignorant of what this country was founded on and the beliefs therein.
bityote 2 weeks ago
@dagoose109 I am sorry if I offend you, but you can be an atheist, that's you're choice, but because you choose that, you must then be very aware of how you view things as to not make a delusion of a false foundation for argumentive success of you're atheism and it's support. We may agree to disagree but I feel our forefathers deserve a bit more respect seeing as they did establish the freedom for you to believe in and say what you want to say, regardless of you're current beliefs.
God Bless
bityote 2 weeks ago
@bityote----No offense, I simply disagree based on Facts and Reality. It sounds like you might be getting all your history from a Christian Library. I challenge you to name even 1 so-called Christian Principle (specific and unique to Christianity) upon which you claim America was founded upon. By the way, just because someone is not a Christian does not automatically make them an Atheist.
dagoose109 2 weeks ago
@dagoose109 Looking in retrospect I see I was using christianity figuratively for belief in God. I do not have one specific principle, I was referring to our forefathers founding the constitution by faith in God, not necessarily building it by what he builds. Specifically, our constitution was built in faith in God. However our constitutions have religious basis in there character and structure.
bityote 2 weeks ago
@dagoose109 I agree christianity is not the only religion out there, I guess I was mistaken by you're "Since I do not subscribe to the Bible Theory of God" comment, I took that as atheism.
bityote 2 weeks ago
@bityote---Since the majority of Americans are Christians, it is inevitable that Christianity has influenced America. Many of the Founding Fathers were Deists, and no doubt Deism had an influence as well. Since God is the Absolute Reality of the Universe, everyone, everything, and every religion exists because of God and is influenced by God even if not consciously aware of it. However, God and Religion are not the same and there is no Specific Religious Basis in the Constitution.
dagoose109 2 weeks ago
@dagoose109 Thank you, yet not so open that my brains are falling out. I think close minded fixed mentalities can actually lock one into deception itself because they are not willing to unbiasedly evaluate the situation, though with this being said such a viewpoint must be practiced with severe zeal. A choice is a choice, not a command, you know?
bityote 2 weeks ago
@bityote Christ is not a T.V. Program. Before we are saved we are DEAD in sin. How can a dead man make the choice to follow Christ? He can't. We are made alive in Christ by His mercy and grace. Eph 1:4 is another great example. Romans 6:20-22 also.
Galden172007 2 weeks ago
@Galden172007 I meant to simplify my logic in a metaphoric statement to share the logic on a more understandable level. If you view "dead in sin" as a literal dead man, then how can a man who is "dead in sin" breathe? I agree 100% we are made alive in Christ by his mercy and grace. If we choose to follow Christ Jesus.
God Bless
bityote 2 weeks ago
@bityote I did not mean literally dead. Spiritually dead. But when you see a literal DEAD body, can it do anything for itself? No, neither can the spiritually dead. If you are a believer in Christ Jesus it is only because he called you to be His. Because of His love for His chosen people he died on the cross. Soli deo Gloria. Solos Christos
Galden172007 2 weeks ago
@Galden172007 Well you simply lay your sins before him and trust in his crucifixion and resurrection from the dead to save those who believe he was raised from the dead by the power of God. He calls us to be his, every last one of us, we choose to answer His calling. A call is not a demand or order, its a request and offer. I think you are mistaking old testament Israel and thinking of the new temple Christ Jesus built as Israel. Chosen as those who choose to follow him.
bityote 2 weeks ago
@bityote But we cannot make that decision on our own. Gen 6:5 The LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intention of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.- Always evil...how can we make the decision to follow him? John 17:24 Christ desires that they also, whom you have given me, may be with me where I am. - We were GIVEN-Eph 1:4 chosen before the foundation of the world to be holy and blameless before him--The bible is very clear.
Galden172007 2 weeks ago
@Galden172007 I can understand that God knew who would choose to follow Christ Jesus before he created the world and man, but that does not mean that he took the choice away from us, that shows his glory. Chosen before the creation of the world, because God knew who would choose him, He did not fix us into predestined damnation, we choose to follow Him. If he does not give us the choice of salvation through belief in Christ Jesus, then why did He create us? sin? faith?
bityote 2 weeks ago
@bityote If you would please give me some scripture to base your beliefs on. I have given you several verses, and there are more, that prove that it is God that chooses us. God is in control of everything that happens. That's why he can work ALL things to the good of those that love Him.
Galden172007 2 weeks ago
@Galden172007 I have indirectly and directly referred to 1 Timothy 2:3-4, 1 Chronicles 21:9-12, Ephesians 2:5, John 3:16. I can see what you are saying, and I agree that God ultimately controls everything, He gives us the choice of action, pharaoh chose not to believe and tried to stand against God, God knew he would do this prior to, so he used it, that does not mean we don't have a choice. That further shows the sovereignty of God
bityote 2 weeks ago
@Galden172007 I am stating that its a matter of one sided perception to think that God has not given us a choice of belief, we choose to believe in what we choose to believe. God knows what our choice will be and works all things to the good of those who love Him through those choices regardless if one believes in him or not. John 3:16 if God causes no man to sin, and will send no one to hell that is not deserving, how then do we not have a choice?
bityote 2 weeks ago
@bityote Please read romans chapter 9. Also, you have said that God is sovereign, what is your definition of the term? Does God have to learn the future or does he know all things?
Galden172007 2 weeks ago
@Galden172007 I use sovereign referring to infinite superiority , knowledge, power, etc.
He knows and has control of all things from first to last before He created the world. Though may we not forget about His choice of how to let/make things happen and His personality therein.
bityote 2 weeks ago
@bityote Did you ever read romans 9? You still haven't shown me scriptural references to back why you believe God allows you to choose Him or not.
Galden172007 2 weeks ago
@Galden172007 Scriptural referrences I do not have, the Lord is sovergn and I don't feel He will condem anyone unjustly. As Romans 9:19-21 says, the Lord may have made you as a hard arrogent piece of pottery, that does not mean He removed you're choice of belief in Him, it means you're heart has many things in it that need much strength and guidance from the Lord.
bityote 2 weeks ago
@Galden172007 I don't feel this is actually pre-destination, but rather God displaying His love and mercy for us, yet His ultimate power and knowledge. I ask how you feel this supports pre-destination? Can I ask what religion you are in?
bityote 2 weeks ago
@bityote I am reformed. I am a Christian. I urge you not to use your feelings. Look at what it says. ADOPTION, ELECTION...Before they did anything wrong Jacob I have loved, Esau I have hated. It's very clear. It's not that I FEEL it supports pre-destination. I know it does because it's right there in black and white and in the other verses that I already brought to you. Can you show me verses that prove that we choose? Rom 9:11...in order that God's purpose of ELECTION might continue...
Galden172007 2 weeks ago
@Galden172007----I constantly hear Christians proclaiming that God is not about "Feeling". Do you people just "Read Words" about Jesus, or do you "Feel" his presence in your hearts and souls?
dagoose109 1 week ago
@dagoose109 The point that I was making is that our feelings shouldn't get in the way of God's truth. We are not told to interpret the bible. We should not look at what the Bible says and say "I think this means..." or "I feel this means..." Instead we should seek out His truth.
Galden172007 1 week ago
@Galden172007---I understand, however, there are thousands and thousands of different interpretations of the Bible. Words will always be nebulous. My question is simply yes or no; "Do you feel the Presence of God?Christ in your life?". If you say yes, then is this not greater than interpreting words and dogma?
dagoose109 1 week ago
@dagoose109 I recognize the presence of God and Christ in my life but it is not a human feeling. There is only one interpretation of the bible. The same holy spirit that inspired scripture is the One who gives us interpretation. Men are not free to interpret scripture in a way that suits them. It must mean only what God intended it to mean since he is the author and authors obviously determine their own works.
Galden172007 1 week ago
@Galden172007---I understand that "Feeling the Presence of God" has nothing to do with mundane human emotions. Many Christians I have encountered insist that "Feeling" has nothing to do with God, and this makes it sound like God is nothing more than a belief and a book full of words to them. Each one also implies that their's is the only valid interpretation of the Bible and thus they are the real "True Christians". It is quite absurd to me.
dagoose109 1 week ago