Near Death Experience of a Neurosurgeon: A must watch!

[xknowledgeisfreex]

It was obviously a hallucination, but it's interesting nevertheless that the brain can create such powerful hallucinations.

[colourtherainbow1991]

How did he contract this disease ????

[Matthysable]

Unlike the claim made at the beginning of this video, Christian Orthodoxy most certainly does NOT see the body as simply a vessel of the soul.

[AstralEtheric]

@PurpleRose1849 thank you. I believe so too. I am a proponent of the Double-Apect theory and agree that subjective experience cannot be fully explained via objective observation, as well as take the hard problem of consciousness into account. This is more than the pseudo-skeptics would like to acknowledge.

[flower1921]

I kind a like this Mr who died and then came back.

[TrueatLove]

all i have to say in regards to there being no way for consciousness to survive outside of the brain, is that there are many NDE's which the person, when they come back can tell doctors and family members exactly what was going on while they were physically dead. So if this was just a hallucination, or dream..how would you be able to tell someone what they were wearing when you had not seen them before death, and what they were talking about when there is no brain activity? Also, if we were ju

[Jennafu832]

@TrueatLove There are so many stories about people being aware of discussion going on miles away from their bed while being revived. They say they were hovering over the people, and could see things happening that they couldn't have known otherwise. My father was killed a few years ago, and I wonder if he experienced this. I wonder if he saw me after he left his body. It was a rather violent death, and he probably had no idea he was about to die. I hope he did see me and realize he was leaving.

[richobenard]

Tim55linececum,do you think that people shouldn't be allowed to hear of the experiences he had? "Shutup, you have no business disrupting the current paradigm!" ... Hey, I don't go one way or the other, I've never died and no one alive knows, but everyone should have an opportunity to speak. Your attitude is quite similar to those naysayers of past "Shh, you aren't allowed to believe the earth is round and orbits the sun, we've believed it's flat for ages and we have a lot invested in that idea!"

[saintlybastard]

He's wearing a bow tie. I don't think he has fully recovered.

[tim55lincecum]

This video should have ended after 13 seconds with the word "yes". Stop believing what you what to believe. Believe what you think actually exists. We don't have souls. Has there ever been any evidence for souls?

[AstralEtheric]

@tim55lincecum

"We don't have souls. Has there ever been any evidence for souls?"

Ad Ignorantiam - Well done, sir. :)

[umairdr]

Once it starts, it never ends. Life is eternal. Please read Quran for your guidance. It tells you the true path for heaven after death.

[theBartone9119]

Near Death Experiences are just tricks of the brain, anyone who believes this nonsense is delusional.

[AProudMuslim786]

@theBartone9119 Yeh, doesent look like you have researched about NDE...have you? LOL. Let me tell you something, every person who has this NDE has the same experience, it does not matter if you're blind, def, dumb, athiest, or whatever! Every same person has the same experience, EVERYONE! They all first see a black hole, then light, everything the same, except for Hell or Heaven. Idiot.

[AProudMuslim786]

@theBartone9119 And plus, during NDE the brain is dead, fool.

[theBartone9119]

@AProudMuslim786 You are the idiot. When the brain looses oxygen people get tunnel vision and the white light always accompanies it. NDEs are actually REM intrusions triggered in the brain by traumatic events like cardiac arrest.

[AProudMuslim786]

@theBartone9119 Yes, and thats not what the docters all over the world say? They have actually studied unlike you.

[theBartone9119]

@AProudMuslim786 What the hell are you talking about? ...You clearly know nothing about NDE's if you think it is a link to the supernatural world. They are simply just REM intrusions coming from the brain stem, this is common even in people who are brain dead because the stem can function independently from the higher brain. Science always trumps fantasy, people used to think hurricanes were God punishing them when they can be explained by science. NDE's have been explained by science also....

[AProudMuslim786]

@theBartone9119 Yes, im just following what the scientist and doctors say, you need to keep up with science rofl. Your abit too behind. KEEP UP! Basically im saying scientists have no answer to NDE, they have to believe in it, they cant find an answer, nor can you. because you have not even studied it. THEY HAVE. FOOL.

[AstralEtheric]

@theBartone9119

By assuming that all out of body and near death experiences can be explained by analyzing what goes in the brain and brain stem during these experiences is a massive assumption. This begs the questions of how it is even possible to perceive objects outside of their normal perception, as well as the hard-problem of consciousness.

The model you present assumes these neurological correlation are the causation and disregards these problems.

[theBartone9119]

@AstralEtheric "This begs the questions of how it is even possible to perceive objects outside of their normal perception"

It's not possible. If you can't see it, smell it, taste it, touch it, or hear it then there is no way to know an object exists.

"as well as the hard-problem of consciousness."

It's not a hard problem, we know now in science that the brain is responsible for consciousness. If you damage the brain, consciousness is altered. If you inject someone with chemicals, it is altered.

[AstralEtheric]

@theBartone9119 Well skepticism is reasonable and I don't expect to change your mind, and I think we can both agree that Afterlife is something that cannot be proved or disproved, though, lets examine the facts:

You mention that perceiving objects through non-physical means in not possible, but on the contrary, this as been demonstrated that it is. It may be impossible from a materialist paradigm, however there are an number of cases that prove this otherwise.

[theBartone9119]

@AstralEtheric If consciousness was more than simply a response to biological processes, then brain damage shouldn't effect it. If it was anything more than biological, then injecting someone with chemical stimuli should have no effect. The problem is the physical world is all that can effect consciousness, meaning it can't be anything more than physical. The afterlife is just a fairy tale made up by man as a way to cope with the fact we are mortals.

[AstralEtheric]

@theBartone9119 If you consider the number of people who recall seeing and hearing things accurately while clinically dead, perceiving out of body and recalling complex things such as 5 digit numbers, and even blind people from birth being able to see during these experiences, it is certainly worth investigating. If materialism is true, then yes, these would be impossible. However, this evidently is not the case. 'Subconscious picking up things' is not sufficient to explain this.

[theBartone9119]

@AstralEtheric You also seem to forget that the subconscious picks up on things and takes not when our consciousness is not aware of it. Something may come to your consciousness that you think is new information you couldn't have known, but it was really information that your subconscious already took note of. Also, the fact that Muslims see the prophet muhammad, Christians see Jesus, and buddhists see Vishnu during these experiences, just proves there is no objective afterlife.

[AstralEtheric]

@theBartone9119 The model you present does not disprove afterlife. It simply proves that if you alter the physical hardware(the brain) you alter the physical capabilities of the consciousness. This still begs the question of how configurations of unconscious pieces of matter is ever possible to create a rich inner subjective experience, however complex. Again, you merely assume these correlations are the causation, and disregard other models to explain this.

[theBartone9119]

@AstralEtheric Nobody wants to die, and deep down we know that when we die it's all over but if we can trick ourselves into believing in the afterlife while we are alive then it makes coping with death easier. In the long wrong it's still incorrect. I would rather base my beliefs on what's most likely true, rather than just what "feels good". It may feel good to think you have a million dollars in your account but that doesn't mean it's there. The afterlife = A man made delusion

[AstralEtheric]

@theBartone9119

Also, by assuming materialism, you're holding on to a belief that is thoroughly discredited by modern quantum mechanics. In light of recent studies, quantum mechanics has shown that what we perceive as external physical material is dependent upon a conscious observer, which paradoxically, you claim consciousness is dependent upon the brain. If you would like confirmation of this, I recommend searching the delayed choice/quantum eraser experiment.

[theBartone9119]

@AstralEtheric Quantum Mechanics does nothing to discredit materialism. Maybe you should do some research on what Quantum Mechanics actually is. Also I'm not saying the afterlife is impossible or saying that I can prove it wrong, I'm just saying it makes no sense and modern Neuroscience discredits the idea of an afterlife pretty bad. You are simply scared and in denial of your own mortality, for some reason you are not happy accepting the truth that you are biological and that's it. Sad really.

[AstralEtheric]

@theBartone9119

"Quantum Mechanics does nothing to discredit materialism."

Tell that to Alain Aspect and Anton Zeilinger.

How about you research the quantum eraser experiment for yourself. Then tell me how well it fits with your preconception of materialism. Good luck :)

[AstralEtheric]

@theBartone9119

"Neuroscience discredits the idea of an afterlife pretty bad"

What you misunderstand is that neuroscience is the study of the brain, not the direct study of consciousness. The experience itself will always be a variable, and that is a consequence of trying to explain 1st person experience via 3rd person observation. Believing this provides us with direct knowledge of the experience is known as Naive Realism.

[theBartone9119]

@AstralEtheric "What you misunderstand is that neuroscience is the study of the brain, not the direct study of consciousness."

Where do you think your conscious experience comes from? Every thought you have can be tracked in a scanner. You are just scared of mortality so you cling to whatever theory that provides "evidence" of an afterlife. Without the eye there is no sight, and without the brain there is no mind. A car doesn't continue to travel like normal if the engine is dead..This is logic.

[AstralEtheric]

@theBartone9119

"Where do you think your conscious experience comes from?"

That's a mystery yet to be solved, and something materialism can't answer. I personally am a proponent of the Orch-OR model.

"Every thought you have can be tracked in a scanner."

You're using the same circular reasoning I just rebutted...

"Without the eye there is no sight, and without the brain there is no mind"

The first part is true. But yet again, you ignore the hard-problem.

[theBartone9119]

@AstralEtheric "That's a mystery yet to be solved, and something materialism can't answer. "

It has been answered you are just to afraid of mortality to accept it, we know exactly where consciousness comes from and it's from the brain. Do you not know anything about the human anatomy and what it's functions are? If you look with your eye it sends signal to your brain and you can see, if you hear something with your ear then it's the same. It all boils down to the brain, obviously.

[theBartone9119]

@AstralEtheric Now do scientists know EVERYTHING about consciousness? No, and it's this gap of scientific knowledge where you hide to try and make claims of an afterlife. The problem for you is we know enough to safely say that consciousness is most likely a bi-product of a working brain.

[theBartone9119]

@AstralEtheric Think about it: Without ears there is no hearing, without eyes there is no sight, without a nose there is no smell, without the heart there is no blood pumping, and without a brain there is no mind....It's common sense that can tell you there is no afterlife, the problem is the human race isn't ready to fully accept it's mortality. There will be false hope of an afterlife for a long time I presume..

[theBartone9119]

@AstralEtheric If you throw a log in a fire, at tree doesn't grow in another dimension......You probably think it does though, I mean you believe that if the brain is destroyed consciousness can survive in a spiritual dimension so you might as well go all the way coo coo

[AstralEtheric]

@theBartone9119

Normally, I would agree with the position that there is no afterlife and I used to believe so. Though, my own experiences make me believe otherwise. Like I said, skepicism is reasonable, even necessary, but I'm going with my own experiences instead of assuming the materialist interpretation is correct.

[theBartone9119]

@AstralEtheric I'm just letting you know that reality is simply what your brain tells you is reality. The brain is very complicated and dreams are a perfect example of false realities the brain can create....People bleed, sweat, puke, shit, and piss ect so I can see why people would like to cling to the idea that we "aren't just biological" due to it's downsides, but denying reality doesn't change reality. Just something to think about my friend.

[PurpleRose1849]

@AstralEtheric I agree with you. I had my own ADC's more than once, and I was not looking for anything. I know beyond a shadow of a doubt. and it matters not what others believe or think. To each their own.

[theBartone9119]

@AstralEtheric Also if the soul gets disembodied then the afterlife would suck. I wouldn't have a dick so I couldn't have sex, and I wouldn't have a mouth and taste buds so I couldn't taste food, I wouldn't have a brain producing chemical reactions so I couldn't get intoxicated. I would rather just die lol

[AstralEtheric]

@AstralEtheric I honestly cannot say for certain why people see unique religious figures during these experiences. Speaking from personal experience, I can see how what they will see during an OBEs or NDEs can be free for interpretation. I used to think these experiences were due to brain activity also, though after doing unbiased research and experiencing this phenomenon myself, there are far too many coincidences and accurate recalling of events, as I mentioned below.

[theBartone9119]

@AstralEtheric "and even blind people from birth being able to see during these experiences"

I would like to see evidence for this. To me it seems like you are just spurting out a bunch of fairy tales lol

[theBartone9119]

@AstralEtheric So i did some research, the blind people who see during these experiences see shapes but not colors, how is this possible? Well a blind person can feel objects and imagine what it would look like and probably bases those "visions" off of that. For example if you hold a cube in your hand and feel it without looking at it, you can imagine what it would look like. If you spend a life time feeling things, then have experiences where you "see" then those visions are based off that.

[theBartone9119]

@AstralEtheric If you touch a face and feel the ears, nose, eyes, and mouth then it's not hard to imagine the shape of the face and all it's details, you just won't imagine the color. This is a good explanation to me regarding why blind people can "see" during these experiences.

[theBartone9119]

@AProudMuslim786 Conclusion:

Even after confirmed brain death the brain stem is still active... Even after the higher regions of the brain are dead, the brain stem can continue to function, and REM intrusion would still occur. Educate yourself before you make yourself sound like even more of a moron than you already did.

[theBartone9119]

@AProudMuslim786 Look up brain stem death, it's not the same as brain death. I bet you no NDE has occured during brain stem death, if they have then that would be a miracle.

[Grooveify]

The myriad of different types of experiences does suggest to me slightly that this is something neurological in nature - if not, then the afterlife is totally different (positive and negative) for everyone, and related to your beliefs (which is a bit fiddly). Some are religious, some experiences personal, familial etc. It's all to open to jump to conclusions for either side, neither science nor our mystical "man in the sky" can explain these happenings 100% yet.

[IAmThinkTankDubstep]

We're all one. We go through cycles of existence spanning billions of years. All energy is constantly recycling, we're all relative matter and energy, therefore, our form is constantly changing, adapting to each time we die. Live your life positively....even if your mother gets cancer...and your dad loses his job....keep your chin up. Because literally, if you are a positive person in this life, in the next life, you will be a king. Pain is temporary, glory is eternal.

[k0smon]

@phrogeny ::: You are way behind on your research. Docs who study NDEs in depth are convinced it is a real experience. (Sabom, Morse, Kubler-Ross, Moody) They have determined it is not caused by drugs,DMT, O2 deprivation or hallucination. They all become convinced of the reality of a future life. OOBEs indicate that the mind (and spirit body) can function separately from the brain.

[HoloArt]

We are simply spiritual beings having a physical experience. Here to experience duality and separation, time and space, and make memories of what it was like to live in a 3 dimensional + 1 time universe. Life is one big long lesson in what it means and how it feels to be separate. From the moment we are born and separate from our mothers and the umbilical cord is cut in two till the day we die and our deaths become a lesson in separation to the loved ones we leave behind.

[jeroen55garageband]

Good doc!

[trupiil]

When science tries to equate the inner experience of feeling, someone has in normal introspective, with the outside view of "science" on "particles" "neuronal pattern activity" - science upholds an invalid equation. This whole scam was demonstrated to be false by many philosophers centuries ago. The early quantum physicists noticed these inadequacies and looked well into these philosophers. Rediscovery is on the way.

[FrozenAnarchy]

@trupiil THANK YOU. You're the only one I've seen so far who understands. Science's external views cannot perceive internal experiences nor ever explain them. It's two separate mediums of perception and perhaps existence itself. This is what I mean when I tell people about left-brain versus right-brain perceptions. Science just sees the molecules. Not the experiences themselves...

[aaugoaa]

maybe he had a bit of DMT release.

[k0smon]

@aaugoaa ::: Or maybe, like the experts say, you cannot account for NDEs from chemicals, drugs, O2 lack or hallucinations.

[LesiureBoy]

And no, it wasn't a dream because I've had millions of dreams and I know very well the difference between the two. It was just too real and too amazing. I was FULLY aware of my situation. That's the thing, I was AWARE, but I was just in such awe at was I was seeing that I was also thinking that I didn't deserve the experience. It was just too much and I felt I wasn't worthy. But I guess I was since during that time I was going question God many times. God definitely answered back.

[Andizottel]

@LesiureBoy

Research lucid dreams, please.

[LesiureBoy]

I had a mild case of NDE and I gotta tell ya, it was...very, very special. Words can't describe the feeling. I saw a brilliant light appear in front of me, rising higher and higher until it began to come closer and closer to my head, all the while I was thinking "oh my god, I can't believe this is happening to me." I swear, those were my exact thoughts during this experience, until the light tapped my forehead and poof, it was gone and I woke up from my sleep. More to this story, of course.

[Manthor]

A very brief explanation here: a brain needs oxygen to sustain itself and its activity can be monitored by the EEG which measures electrical activity. During NDEs there is often a lack of measurable brain activity and is accompanied by clinical death, which means no oxygen circulating to the brain. The experiences described are lucid, vivid and detailed - which means the brain needs energy to facilitate such conscious imagining. So during a state where no energy is supplied, whats happening?

[k0smon]

@Manthor ::: There are good indications the 'mind' can function separately from the brain. People with NDEs with accompanying OBEs illustrate this. It could be that the mind is the brain of the spirit body.

[MizzyIdiot]

As Morgan Freeman (lovely man) says, "it is by no means unique". Christian NDErs will say they saw angels in Heaven. Non-Christians will say they journey into space. Scientists will explain it as symptoms due to oxygen-deprived brain functioning. Doesn't matter. At the end of the day...all roads lead to Rome. And we're all going there. Peace and light x

[k0smon]

@MizzyIdiot ::: In the afterlife, we will find the kind of life we have always wanted to live. The best book on the subject that I have found is "Life in the World Unseen", available for free download.

[aylera]

@phrogeny people have been clinically dead, with no brain activity, yet was revived and able to recall specific conversations that were said. Not to mention recalling light fixture numbers and stickers after floating on the ceiling during their NDE. But it's not science because it's not intentionally repeatable.

[Qith]

Bowties are cool.

[jw89]

Oh hey, it's Morgan Freeman

[altgeldrarities]

A jew would have to ask: After he came back from death, did he seek his death benefit payment from his life insurance company?

[yunged]

The guy was in a coma and saw some weird shit....wow!

I took a nap earlier and saw some weird shit too, near sleep experience!!!

[k0smon]

@finalcloud13 ::: It is the best evidence we have. Just as you cannot give me a gallon of electricity, scientific methods cannot measure the spiritual. See 'victorzammit,com' who uses scientific method and is able to replicate spirit presence in the seance room.

[finalcloud13]

@k0smon Electricity's not such a good comparison. We can clearly observe that it's there, measure and quantify its effects, reliably make predictions, and if we REALLY REALLY wanted, yes we can actually see it at the subatomic level. Electricity is, after all, electrons.

This does none of that.

[FrozenAnarchy]

@k0smon There's a video demonstrating a spiritual master who lit an electric lightbulb with chi energy. He'd 'shock' people with this energy, heal them, and even lit a newspaper on fire. They then tested the guy on a device meant to read electrical signals and couldn't detect the energy with it. The used various sensors on him, he didn't have magnets or any foreign material in his clothes or body. Mind you, this was a man who seriously didn't want the publicity at all. Explain this?

[xBIGSHEPx]

is this from through the worm hole?

[aylera]

I just laugh and move on at the, "scientists say NDE's are all in the brain" articles, when I see them..

We aren't able YET, to prove the soul exists. But from my standpoint, I don't just have some evidence in the form of data to analyze and study, I have something way more substantial and powerful... I can FEEL it.

[aSASa45454]

@aylera lol

[finalcloud13]

@aylera So what would you say when a person with an amputated arm says his now nonexistent hand itches like hell and he swears there's something there, he can FEEL it? The soul of his arm must still be there right?

[aylera]

@finalcloud13 Sit back, relax, quiet your thoughts and sit still. Slow your breathing, and feel.

I don't know much, but what I am sure about, is that our knowledge of existence is like a 1 billionth part of a grain of sand, in all the worlds combined, in every solar system and galaxy.

If you disagree and think you know more, then the difference between us is you think you know it all, while I can see we both don't.

[finalcloud13]

@aylera Well no, but then we also shouldn't make the mistake of acting like we know pretty much nothing. 

[Encore1234567890]

Bow ties are cool. lol

[Manojvarughese]

A strong reason why one hundred percent DNA coding has not been possible to this date!!

[TheLoneMercenary]

I am... More than Freeman.

[blink180heights]

this guy gives the best explanation of the truth, religious people.. wake up

[upandatem900]

This sounds like nothing more than an abnormal brain state, not evidence of an afterlife. The man never even died, he was in a deep coma! This is nothing more than an illusory "dream" and the fact that he would suggest otherwise is questionable. There's no afterlife and no god, unfortunately. Trust me, I wish there were. All we have is ourselves so we better learn to move beyond our petty differences.

[mreloo]

@upandatem900 oh yeh I think I will believe you now... since your so wise and have so much insight....not

[carnivourlocust]

@upandatem900 very true my friend. research won't help you here. you either experience it or you don't. you need to know that when you do ... you realize that it's not a dream. and also ... dreams don't happen in your head. if they were you could bring forth this world at your will ... anyways ... which eyes, ears and sences do you use in a dream? hh I don't know ... but I am almost certain that it has nothing to do with the brain. brain has become like big bang in modern science :/

[carnivourlocust]

@upandatem900 I ... also experienced the very powerful vibrational state when I woke up from a lucid dream ... and I experienced a speck of out of body travel. anyways. at the time I was studying physics and I loved it ... so many questions to be answered ... and I expected answers from the physics. and as soon as I started making my own little assumptions of how the universe works, I experienced the OBE/NDE - and I realized that science will never be able to answer the questions that I had.

[blink180heights]

@carnivourlocust i've been a lucid dreamer since i was 8 years old no joke and i am 25 now.. i have never had an outer body experience during sleep/rest . I think that what happens in the mind, stays in the mind. What happens out of the body, stays out of the body, so you had a dream and were still in your own body's mind, but when you leave your body.. you do not think the same way as the mind did from when you were trapped in your body.

[shogu666]

@blink180heights Yeah sound familiar to me as well , when you actually leave the body you know it.

Lucid dreaming is like "inside".

[carnivourlocust]

@blink180heights yes I also think this is what occurs. it is also logical

[t147413]

@carnivourlocust maybe this will be usefull for you school.obe4u.com

[carnivourlocust]

@upandatem900 because these things are just too much for the mind (program) - because mind is based on logic and these things just ARE NOT logical ... they just are. and when a being becomes identified with it's name, number and it's mind (program) it becomes TERRIBLY blind to the 'truth'. first ... break your mind (program) programming to begin the journey. enjoy my friend.

[carnivourlocust]

@upandatem900 forgot to add. NEVER trust and take for granted ... physicists that say this and that. because - mind likes to think that something is THIS way or THAT way because it likes to be sure and knowing. we are even so stupid that we assume that animals are different from us - science concluded and injected this idea into people ... by assuming things from brain patterns and characteristics - but we will NEVER know how it is to be a dog - AND we can't just go assuming things cuz' of brain

[Misstorys]

@upandatem900 Than you be very ignorant ! NDE and OBE and even paranormal phenomena has all the evidence of live after dead.

[buffedwhiteman1]

@upandatem900 GOD is real. Let Go Of Frustration with Yourself/Your Life.If you let go a little, you will have a little peace. If you let go a lot, you will have a lot of peace.”

[Impaler1815]

I've heard all of this before. It's still nothing more than emotions, dreams and the natural psychological effects of a failing brain.

[howlifebegan]

@Impaler1815 Well I am uploading new videos so if you want keep checking my channel. I select only the best videos with an aim of bridging the scientific gap. This means I am objective myself and I bring only the very convincing ones on my channel.

[Impaler1815]

@howlifebegan Travelling to another dimension and back is not a better explanation than the well established natural causes. That's the objective, scientific stance.

[howlifebegan]

@Impaler1815 Your logic is not wrong. I am equally likely to think like you in the absence of better knowledge. Check out my new vid on debunking kenneth miller's logic. It is this + NDE events that makes me believe in ID. It is an assembly of the same logic you use.

[Impaler1815]

@howlifebegan You know being logical isn't about choosing the conclusion that makes you feel good. Travelling to other dimensions and back, when there are perfectly good natural explanations, will never be logical.

[howlifebegan]

@Impaler1815 Well logical understanding in biology + NDE .. gives me the logic I need. Also way more insight.. please check out my vid on kenneth miller.. if u can understand what i explain.. then maybe u understand why i believe in ID in the first place.. i think these are the best arguments that supercede the Ireducible complexity issue..

[Impaler1815]

@howlifebegan I watched it, for the second time now, it still doesn't say anything beyond "complexity requires a designer" and you STILL haven't answer the question: Do you believe in an infinite chain of increasingly complex designers?

[howlifebegan]

@Impaler1815 watch?v=G8mARph5yig

[Impaler1815]

@howlifebegan Haven't I already watched this video? You still don't use any arguments beyond "look at all this complexity" and "complexity had to be designed". I'll just keep posing the same question, that you keep refusing to answer: Do you also believe in an infinite chain of increasingly complex designers?

[howlifebegan]

@Impaler1815 I used to ask myself this question before. But having listened carefully to the testimonies of NDErs.. it is clear that our mind is much larger than what we use here.. sort of we are much more than what we think right now.. they say.. it is so "big" that it is impossible for them to put into words for us to understand.. so I just say..that with the current limitation I am not destined to understand beyond this.. there are really complex stuffs out there..

[Impaler1815]

@howlifebegan There are many things in the universe that are too complex or hard to detect to understand. There are many things we understand now, that were once too complex or hard to detect for us to understand. Every time we've found the answer to something we didn't understand, the answer has never, ever been supernatural. Claiming your answer is correct simply because we don't know the actual answer isn't very scientific.

[howlifebegan]

@Impaler1815 one of the thing is the awareness of connections.. it falls deep into the domain of the spiritual.. I myself I am still trying to understand.. I think this is the border of science.. science cant show you this.. too limited.. imagine using a pentium 1 to solve problems.. and u make a life assumption based on the results.. will be different to the results given by a quantum computer..