Quantum Computing Day 3: Does an Explanation of Higher Brain Function require...

[gaaakz]

Because neurotransmitters like serotonin and tryptamines are different molecular weights, they affect the the perception of matter and time. Which is proof of the Higgs field. All Theoretical Physicists should be taking a close look at psilocybin

[Faustoteinmor]

This say only two words: God exist.

[jcrossn]

I like his ideas ... is not quantum mysticism, but maybe quantum investigation or research... our curiosity shouldnt be stopped by taboo concepts, as long as we have well defined goals and as long as logic and science is our main basis... maybe quantum computation is for us in the 21st century as electricity was for people in the Tesla time... or maybe not :)

[cespedeslv]

To date (2010) Humans are still better and superior to any Classical or Quantum computer.

[DasKrabbe]

@cespedeslv

Not at chess.

[traibr]

That explanation being that electrons have a property that makes them the 'holders' of (((((consciousness))))). Hence information can be stored in electrons. They are clearly related in the big picture!

[traibr]

Now this might seem like we are adding a whole new law to physics, but this is simply not true. This theory fits right in with modern physics and helps offer an explanation to the unexplainable behaviours of electrons (QUATUM MECHANICS/QUATUM COMPUTERS, THE BRAIN) in various environments.

[traibr]

Look at the paramecium, an organism with some form of (((((consciousness))))), but no neurological paths? The question is now apparent In the complex system of our mind is the 'choice' of action given to the brain itself, or what flows within the brain, the electrons.

[traibr]

They are related...... look back to the quantum description, there are levels we cant understand; Such as np complete ((((((The idea that electrons can appear out of the nothingness of space, then disappear (consciousness))))))? & there are levels we can, such as np, p and so on..... Again related.

[metabog]

You've obviously completely misunderstood quantum physics, unfortunately, so you should stop preaching quantum mysticism to us.

[Mastersen]

I've never seem so much bullshit together. There is NO way quantum coherence affects processing in brain for very simple reason: the brain is NOT at 1e-2Kelvin.

Classical statistical mechanics is far more than necessary to understand neuronal dynamics.

Quantum computing is a very interesting enterprise, but these people are juste spoiling their work with this pseudo-scientific crap to sell their product to stupid investors.

[DarioTheRadioStar]

He's explaining that quantum computer could be "faster" than an electronic computer in training neural networks, not in describing and simulating the brain functionality

[YoLninYo]

If pattern recognition is "ewmunn ttiipe taawsks" then what the fuck are rats doing? don't other animals do the same thing?

why not then generalize instead of perpetuating bullshit species-centric thinking ingrained in most imperial western minds ???

ewmunn ...

[cubed07]

I'll explain quantum computing using binary code. As we all know binary code is either a 1 or 0. With quantum computing their are 3 spins that the electron can be in. A spin 1 state, spin 0 state, or at both spin 1 and 0 at the same time. Lets take an example with three bits, obviously their are 8 combinations that the computer must cycle through to process them, with quantum computing, having both states at once means 1 line of code can process all 8 states in one processing cycle vs 8.

[arestes]

wrong :S

[cubed07]

No actually it's correct, that's why quantum computing is super fast compared to normally computing. The fact that you are using electrons in both 1 and 0 spin states means that you can represent 1 and 0 at the same time in that state. Lets say you wanted to represent all binary combos from 0000 to 1111, normally their are 15 processes needed to display as you need to move to 0001 than 0010 so on, with QC you can in one process represent all 15 binary combinations at once. Read QC books buddy.

[Provoost]

This talk feels wrong on too many levels.

He compares two boxes, a 'quantum' box that we don't understand and a 'classical' box that we don't understand either. He then proceeds to argue that the effect of certain drugs fit the quantum box better than the classical box. But how can you argue this without a physical or at least computational description of the box? Now it just depends on how much magic you assign to each box.

I agree the discussion needs to get back to a small set of neurons.

[davidwizard2006]

geordie rose who is the founder of the company, give a talk in immortality institute, clearly stated the quantum effect is helpful but not essential in the brain function, because the brain is so warm and wet for quantum computing to carry out, there is no laser, no superconductor and no NMR in there, those things are fairly impossible to be naturally evolved but do not they think quantum computer maybe even a more superiors form of intelligence than the brain spike

[davidwizard2006]

quantum mechanic is flawed to build such a device, one of my friend told me

[MaBu888]

If these theories were bad enough, only then would they be excluded from Google videos.

[levlobotomy]

Why is this shit still in here ? Get it out, its a shame for Google. Scientists have most recently proven that thoughts and decision are formed up to 10 seconds before the person even becomes aware of them. Quantum states are not stable for 10 seconds. So humble yourself and remove this "magic box" video.

[Hazzark]

oh and i once heard someone say...that if anybody thinks they know anything about quantum mechanics then they are a liar.

and i believe that statement

[wgasa]

Anyone who is not shocked by quantum theory has not understood it

-Niels Bohr

[MrMayreck]

@wgasa u will understand it at death

[iontom]

Understanding quantum mechanics isn't the issue. It's understanding why taking a measurement collapses probabilities into observables that is the pressing problem. (There are other interpretations of QM, but that's the common Copenhagen interpretation and it is exactly why quantum computers will be so affective.)

[cubed07]

LOL what's funny though is that the particles seem to know when your trying to measure them than they disappear like they have their own intelligence.

[1981z28camaro]

it's because we create our reality through thought, we think of measuring particles, and then we can measure them, because we have created the reality of being able to measure them, when we are not thinking of them, they become possibilities, and are not in one single position, until we measure them.

I imagine this is something science will never figure out, until they come to terms with the fact that we do create our reality. then it will make more sense, right now, it's madness to them.

[vman456]

No, you just misunderstand the implications of that double slit experiment.

[Hazzark]

quantum is in nature so if you believe in nature then quantum becomes a huge possibility for passing information between systems.

not much is still known about quantum. but i say lets build the computers first and figure out the rest later. We know that if we do this with that we get this in quantum and thats all we need to know right now.

Lets let the quantum computers figure out how quantum works.

[momerath42]

This was like a book report for The Emperor's New Mind; I should know, I gave one about 15 years ago.

[levlobotomy]

quick answer to video question from a random smartass on youtube:

Levlobotomy: "No, it doesn't. This is Roger Penrose's idea, and it failed. Microtubuli are the smallest functional units in the brain, and their funcioning is nowhere even near the scale of quantum effects, i.e. quantum effects are not involved. Good day."

[fusionman76]

surely you must realize that the qubits on the d-wave aqc are themselves much larger than microtubuli, and can yet perform quantum calculations. And it seems obvious that the microtubules are not the smallest functional unit in the brain, since the'yre by no means atomic. The classical neurodynamics paradigm is not complete or correct.

[levlobotomy]

atoms arent functional units of the brain

[levlobotomy]

brain: operates on a strategic scale, millions of neurons generate thoughts thoughout large parts of the brain. quantum mechanical source of thought here ? nah, bullshit

[levlobotomy]

oh, and ill quote myself as some google fanboys downvoted my statement of pwnage:

Scientists have most recently proven that thoughts and decision are formed up to 10 seconds before the person even becomes aware of them. Quantum states are not stable for 10 seconds.

[pyromohanzed]

Quantum states are not stable period.

[levlobotomy]

yeah i know. tell the "magic quantum box" fanboys here.

[soundoflight]

Hey girl's, it is because you dont get it that it is crap! Right?

[Saskachewan]

What a fluff talk -_-

I've expected more from Google... Let them better do computer programming and not science...

[rowebots]

It is a controversial approach for sure. Clearly so called "mind enhancing" drugs do exactly that allowing your imagination and creativity to go where you generally can't go. What about the effects of neurological damage and the effects that this might have on a quantum box. Could this be the same effect? Think interferon poisoning. Another key fact which was not addressed is the lack of separation between "expanded consciousness" and simply loosing track of reality.

Great work! Sequel?

[anotherelvis]

I don't believe the last 10 minutes where he suggests that coherent quantum states are necesary to describe the creativity that you get from drinking certain drugs.

If he wants to prove that brain function relies on coherent quantum states, then I think that he should start out looking for molecules in the brain could possibly function like a simple quantum computer. Otherwise he ends up with hot air.

[azianman11]

this is very confusing but is very interesting i am a 9th grader trying to under stand this

[CORNP00]

@anotherelvis farts are made of hot air

[CuteAlien]

Welcome to the new series: Google esoteric talks

[Neueregel]

thanks for posting that vid. Very interesting lecture.