Occupy IS an anarchistic movement. The pacified liberals don't want it to be because it hurts their reformist efforts. American flags were flown together with Marxist and Anarchist flags during the industrial revolution. Anarchist gave us 8 hour work days.
To the video poster. You didn't do anything but walk up and grab the flag, no one was ever going to stop you. They're a peaceful group who are resourceful enough to find another flag rather than cry THIEVES!
@thenoorys Your comments show you have no idea what you are talking about. The "Liberator" grabbed nothing. She asked and they gave. If they did not want to give it up, they should not have been disrespecting it like that. Anarchists have murdered many innocent Americans over the decades and the end does not justify the means, even if what you propose in terms of so-called "Workers Rights" is true. And by the way, they have cried "Thieves" here many times like the whining babies they are.
THank you for personifying the Occupy movement. And thank God we were successful in getting vermin like you eradicated from Chapman and Lonsdale Squares. Please subscribe!
I will stand up for unrelenting freedom. I will string my black flag high. Insurrection will bring down the state, bring down the cops, bring down the monetary system, bring down fascism, capitalism, socialism, the rich, corporations, private property.
@bjarczyk You views epitomize the Occupy movement. It was so satisfying to help get them thrown out of the Park, and now marginalized through diligent journalism.
@daylightdisinfectant The views of bjarcczyk are actually counter to the occupy movement and really do hurt it by convincing people like you that it is something it's not. The sect he belongs to is known as the black bloc anarchists and they have been around long before Occupy began. They try to infiltrate any group or event where they feel they can be disruptive and "bring down the system." They target occupy events because they are peaceful and tend to be more tolerant than tea party ones.
This has been covered time and time again here. Flying it upside down in this circumstance WAS disrespectful. But moreover, they were flying it WITH a Communist flag as well. It was disgusting and she rescued it. Good on her. And now they are gone, Thank God.
As a former Marine it saddens me to see this woman think she did something good by stealing an American flag. She really shows her ignorance in 3 specific ways.
Firstly, she states that the flag was being disrespected by being flown upside down. It is actually done to show that a country or ship it is flown on is in distress.
Second, she openly states that she does not know what the occupy movement is about.
Third, she incorrectly states that they are anarchists. Some may be but most are not.
@arcadeartist1 You hit the nail on the head. Also 'Comments may be held for uploader approval'...Pardon my use of a term that has been used to disparage women historically, but in the parlons of our times..."Bitch Move."
@FablesOfFaubus You don'r like me filtering out the racist homophobic crap that that occupiers try and post here, then go find some other channel. Chonic complainer like the rest of the Occutard herd. Don't even bother commenting again.
@arcadeartist1 I was there flag WAS being flown in multiple disrespectful ways including dragging it, having a Marxism flag flown with it, and being flown to indicate distress when none was present. She knew enough about occupy from what she saw there filthy malevolent law breakers, Third she's right: a good many were anarchists very well know to me. Don't like it? Find another channel.
@arcadeartist1 Well, we do know that all are ignorant self-serving jackasses. How did you get to the point where you're siding with them Jar-head? It doesn't make your blood boil to see how they treat anything red-white-and blue? Look at that post above yours where the Occupyist says "burn that fucking flag"...
you stupid fucking portland anarchists..I swear the A's are a bunch of PC punk ass pussies...Ya'll should have kicked that bitch in the fucking teeth. I hate yall
Anarchists are NOT ANTI AMERICA, they are ANTI GOVERNMENT. That flag represents the United States of the Government not AMERICA!!!!!! Anarchists LOVE AMERICA but hate this corrupt government! This lady supports killers who invade other countries for corporate and government GREED!!!!
@jimbonepdx That's pretty rich coming from a leftwingnut. Haven't you welfare cases been stealing from us 53% for years? When did you get a conscience, when it became convenient?
@jimbonepdx- The "Teabaggers" you fear so much are better people than the Occupiers. How many sexual assaults happened at Tea Party rallies? How many times did the police have to intervene at Tea party rallies? The Tea Party was in fact what the Occuliars claim to be, non-violent and respectful of others.
@mariomoose yes as in terms of a ship sinking in the ocean and woman and children dying, not in terms of some hippie not getting his/her chips food stamps or GUBMINT provided methadone. so it's abuse. it was also dragged around and not not allowed to hang freely as well. those are only two other violations of flag code we witnessed. but thanks for playing and please subscribe now that we got them kicked out of Camp Commie.
@daylightdisinfectant I know that the upside-down flag has been used by numerous Veterans who have shown their disgust for what the elected government has done to our country and the Constitution. The flag, in my opinion, has become a false ideology that gives the average patriotic America the cohesive glue, to adhere to old traditions, in order to just shut up when their told and obey whatever this Masonic/Baphomet worshiping run Government decides to do.
@damian635 Call me a simple kind of man, but I'm a Patriot, and I love the American Flag (flown right side up and respected). But feel free to subscribe.
@daylightdisinfectant I find no fault in you being a simple man and a Patriot. My father is the same, and a Veteran of Vietnam. However, with individuals like Kissinger, Rockefeller and Brzezinski who have long put there own goals and aspirations over those like yourself, manipulating the current state of American Government and foreign policy through think-tanks such as the Council on Foreign Relations, they have essentially(with all their arrogance)spit on the flag and the Constitution.
@daylightdisinfectant again... tsk tsk tsk. First of all... the only time anarchist is mentioned is by the Tea Party.
Second of all... an upside down American flag is symbolic... Its meaning is "A Nation In Distress." If you, as you say in one of your comments, "love the American flag," then you might have a bit more understanding of the symbolism of her different positions.
@SpyThis really? check out what they did to the photographer up in olympia. second that's distress as in a boat going down, not someone not getting their food stamps. we've covered all this. have something intelligent to say or don't bother commenting again.
An upside down flag represents "Distress." The flag represents more than soldiers that have served in the military. It represents all of the ideals that the U.S. is supposed to represent: Included among these are freedom of speech and the right to peaceably assemble. Your goal here seems to be to collect clips of the jackasses who are associated with OP, but not give fair play to the better ideas behind it.
@Toddaloop Try not associating with "jackasses" which typify the movement and you won't have to worry about it. This movement has represented Lawlessness and Communism from the get go. First off by denying me *my* free speech by defying local ordinances in innumerable ways. Don't want to look like a "jackass" then move away from the "jackasses" and Communists who typify this so-called movement which in actuality is a front for the unions and Liberal fat cats like George Soros.
What, exactly, are these "better ideas", Toddaloop? I keep asking this question of you OWS people, and so far, NONE of you has even ATTEMPTED to answer me. Why? Because you don't know specifics, you'd rather remain in the shadows of "vaguery for a better way". I realize that its a safe place to be, when you have no logical basis for your argument. But, my god man! Somebody tell me what your mission is!
@blackmesa176 Hahahahah. Check any honest polling data. WSJ 63% of Americans are against OWS. Gee mainstream Americans are against Communism. How strange.
Get off the iPhone paid for by your parents, get real lives where you and nobody else pays your rent and your bills, and you'll find that you don't have so much time to stand around and whine just for the sake of whining.
You DO NOT have a right to harass and intimidate other citizens of your city who may not see things the way you do, and are just trying to get on with their lives. Either figure out what you are going to say, say it, and go home. Or just go home and come back when you figure out what you are whining about. Just had to say that for the misguided couple of souls who seem to think this is their right and that "the damage isn't that bad".
This is clearly not a protest in the context of what is allowed by the Constitution. These people don't even know that the hell they are protesting about, so this is not done for the purpose of disagreeing with the government. This is about tactics to get attention, plain and simple. Yes, you have a right to make your voice heard. You DO NOT have a right to disrupt the day-to-day operations of a city, for weeks on end.
The First Amendment provides the right of the people to peaceably assemble, and I realize that a couple of misguided individuals here are standing on that until they're blue in the face in defending this disgrace know as the "occupy" movement. I have to ask them again though, what are they protesting? What point are they trying to make? Our country allows people to express their gripes with how they are being governed, but here we are, what is it? Two months into this thing?
I would agree with burning the flag! If those liberal Nazis were wrapped in them. The flag sacrificed for freeing America from stupidity. It would be worth it, the flag would have its revenge.
@BlueRonsonol Distress like when a boat is sinking, not that you did not get your food stamps this week. That's not an emergency. The anarchists misused it, it's abuse and disrespect. But get a life and feel free to Unsubscibe.
@HeadbangakillstheKKK Go to my channel and look up "Left Taunts, Harasses and Hurls Racial Insults at African American Man Attending TEA Party." You'll find out who *REALLY* are the racists. It's the Left. Don't bother commenting again until you have watched the video and have a clue. But thanks for commenting and please feel free to subscribe.
Lame.....You do realize that many of the protesters are themselves Veterans?
I do not fully agree with the Occupation part but do agree with the entire message.
Why don't you Tea Party people stop thinking with your wallets and start thinking with your brain. This lady is absolutely ignorant and obviously only watches one news channel, Fox News.
@misfits758 Wrong. By in larger they are Communists, Socialists, Anarchists and other Leftists miscreants. Just look at my channel. These people disrepected the flag and it is a moment of vistory for the TEA Party was we see it.
@daylightdisinfectant I take offense in you misrepresenting who we are and what we are about by forcing the minority of the movement to represent the majority! As far as the parks are concerned, the Parks and Rec dept. has set up a donation fund, & I for one have contributed, & I know many others have. This movement is about community, & having a dialogue with the community, IMO, and I feel the convo on the larger issues is being lost by nit-picking a lot of smaller issues. how bout solutions?
@themofer Give me a can of mixed nuts I'm not going to sort them out for you. This movement is typified by lawless incoherent violent people as I have seen it. And I have been boots on the ground since day one. But thanks for commenting and please ... subscribe.
@daylightdisinfectant I never said we should run wild and take over the city, in fact, I said that I do think there needs to be police presence to keep the peace!! I don't agree with the misuse of our police force, a misuse that has left the rest of the city wide open for the real criminals to have the run of the city! I don't mind having a civil discussion on issues, and I'm sure we could agree on some things, but I won't respond to name calling.
@themofer comments: "I never said we should run wild and take over the city" THEN FRIGGING DON'T. On a personal level I am sick of paying for you people. Go home and stop committing acts of violence and vandalism of public and provate property. But thanks for commenting and please subscribe.
@daylightdisinfectant "cost of the police?" I ask you if you think it is appropriate for our elected officials to use as many officers as they have been, knowing full well the cost it would be to the city, & the fact that *for the most part* things have been pretty peaceful? I agree there should be a large police presence to keep the peace, & keep crime down with that many protesters, but not so many that rape victims get ignored for 3 hours. Waste of resources, & city at fault for a lot of OT $
@themofer so we should have let you monsters run wild and take over the city? get real. and when can we expect that check to repair the parks? so glad the bums are out of there.
@daylightdisinfectant "Hundreds of thousands in damage" in Chapman and Lownsdale squares? Most of the damage was to grass! Yes some trees damaged, but I personally saw one of the news crews break 10' limb by raising their transmission tower on their van. Dirt can be replaced, grass grows back, the trees live, the benches needed to be replaced anyway, & the bathrooms were nasty to begin with. Many protesters have offered to help clean both monetarily and physically.The official estimate: 19k
Our country is in distress! They are trying to wake the country up to this fact using many creative ways, flying it upside down is one of them. That is the reason why protesters are flying it upside down. It is not a sign of disrespect! I am also not as naive to think that some idiots will disrespect the flag, and fly it upside down because "it's cool" or "trendy" among their friends, but there are many protesters who do fly the flag upside down to show our country is in distress.
@themofer Ahhh but you see ... the ends do *not* justify the means. Unless you are a Loony Lib who subscribes to Alinsky tactics. The flag being used in this way unnecessarily, or being disrespected in other ways to meet your objective does not make it right. Neither does breaking numerous City ordinances. That's why Camp Commie is *gone*. But please ... subscribe!
@charlatan73 Freedom is a spectrum. If you were down there today you would have seen it, mainstream people wanting the anarchists to be in charge. First will come anarchy, and then will come fascism, as nature abhors a vacuum. Then the first people they will put in jail will be people of the Liberal Elite, like Sam Adams. Thanks for commenting.
@daylightdisinfectant An upside down flag is a sign of distress, and it makes sense in this context. I don't see "rescuing" the flag as helping anyone. It just serves to distract and I was down there :). I am a bit of a moderate (moderate democrat) and I see where your coming from. I've seen some crazies, but most people down there are not too extreme. As for the anarchists and the communists...yikes. I was not marching on their behalf.
@charlatan73 You should be careful of the company you keep. For example the movement is endorsed by the Communist Party USA. They march with you. But thanks for commenting!
@daylightdisinfectant The communist party is a bit of a joke (only some 60,000 members or something). Not much power or political influence to speak of. The tea party was endorsed by white supremacist David Duke, but I don't assume all of them lean that way. Once again, I don't have to be a communist to march, and those who marched with the Tea Party are not white supremacists. Most who did were just average people. Most who got on youtube, were ill informed, and a bit extreme.
@charlatan73 no association between the TEA Party and white supremacy. there is a HUGE association between the Left here in Portland and racism. check out my 150k plus view video, "Left Taunts, Harasses and Hurls Racial Insults at African American Man Attending TEA Party." So the evidence supports you hang with racists *AND* Communists. Such a beautiful "movement."
an upside down flag is not disrespect. do your research. It's a sign of distress. I hate people that are so die hard to have one side against the other that their blinding urge to always be correct shadows out fact. so, yea, screw fixing the country, just keep perpetuating fighting amongst ourselves. Great job!
@settone03 Yes it's "in distress" like when the boat is sinking, not when you don't feel like making your student loan payment. But thanks for commenting and please .... SUBSCRIBE!.
"I don't know what the movement is all about" -- perfect quote to describe the Tea Party and its basis on ignorance and rabid nationalism.
The flag is not about soldiers, it's about the USA, a country which is now in distress due to government corruption and collusion with the financial industry. Ron Paul, who you so admire, would agree with flying the flag upside down as a distress symbol.
@doglessliberal From being down there I still still don't know what it's about except the destruction of personal and private property. But Thanks for commenting and PLease subscribe.
@daylightdisinfectant I just told you what it's about: "a country which is now in distress due to government corruption and collusion with the financial industry"
Please, tell me what "personal and private property" OWS has destroyed, or set out to destroy. I'm all ears.
@doglessliberal Yeah so when it's not real distress and you use it that way, it's abuse. HAve you seen the pictures of Chapman and Lonsdals Squares since the cops moved out the filthy vermine. Hundres of thousands in damage. But please feel free to comment on my next video and subscribe!
@doglessliberal - this is Deb and I would like you to know why I said "I don't know what the movement about is". I actually took the time to speak with some of the Occupiers to try to understand their position and see if we have Common Ground. Most of them didn't know themselves. But, I did talk to one individual who agreed with me about auditing the Federal Reserve. Ron Paul is the only candidate who consistently calls for that. You want to get rid of corruption, start there!
True, it means distress. What are the odds the "Occupy" people know what it means? I'm guessing the odds aren't good. Tfawcett, I invite you to my page to share your thoughts about what the "Occupy" movement stands for. All I see in documented video so far, is a bunch of lying hypocrites that "rage against the machine" while looking for people to donate electric generators so they can charge their laptops and iPhones.
A bunch of "Save the planet" types who shun meat and carry cloth grocery bags, all while defecating in public places and leaving their trash behind for others to pick up, instead of disposing of it properly in trash bins that our "evil" corporate government has set up for orderly maintenance, or GASP, taking it out themselves and making sure it gets to its proper place.
@chasethomasangelo I *do*. BUt the OWS movement, and embracement of lawlessness is making it worse not better. But please try a TEA Party and .... SUBSCRIBE.
@daylightdisinfectant Oh sure, i bet most of your fellow teabagger comrades are taking govt. subsidies of some sort. Food stamps, SS, Medicaid, Medicare, retirement, cash assistance, disability, worker's comp., military discounts, etc.
Hand-out after hand-out. Greedy white people - always with their hands out!
@DarknessUnresolved Ahhh use of homophobic sexually derogatory terms and racist slurs both in the same comment! Thanks for proving out two of my assertions against the Left in a single post! I ::LIKE::ed your comment now please ... SUBSCRIBE.
I can't help but smile each time I view this. Way to go Deb. We should all have such tenacity, bravery, and respect for our flag and the great nation it represents.
Last night about 3 AM I noticed that our video regarding Deb liberating the flag had been stolen. A YouTube user, "OccupyMediaDotORG" apparently upset with our removal of some uncivil comments, downloaded the original video and re-uploaded it in-full, for his own use and profit, leaving comments unmoderated. I immediately filed a notice of copyright infringement with YouTube, LLC. I'm happy to report that, as of this morning, their illegal copy has been taken down.
@daylightdisinfectant Title 17 U.S. Code. Section 107 - 118. "Fair use". Section 107 contains a list of the various purposes for which the reproduction of a particular work may be considered fair, such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.
Criticism, comment, news reporting. Sounds like what this person was doing with your video.
@floydgroover Nonetheless ... there are opposing views on the Law (I'm not an Attorney) we intend to protect our property and will file paperwork on all future infringements. Thanks for commenting and please: subscribe!
Deb representin' Ron Paul right next to Kuz... there's some irony for ya. Hope he sees us Paulbots in a bit better light now. I had the unfortunate privilege of being "unfriended" by him on fb during a discussion about Ron Paul. I have no idea why, either. I was entirely respectful during the whole conversation.
Was the camera man (daylight disinfectant, I presume) who said "Ron Paul 2012" being facetious or sincere? Ron Paul is the best hope for America.
Good job, Deb! You are a great contrast between the Tea Partiers who love America and want to restore her greatness vs. the Occupiers, who wish to take over America, eliminate the Constitution, and recreate a nation that does not include Liberty. I pledge allegiance to the flag, of the United States of America, and I'm proud to see people like you, who pledge the same allegiance, and show courage enough to defend her!
The running away and giddy behavior suggests they stole the flag. However, it was only a prop for camera face time..The Oregon Tea Party once held a stance of not endorsing candidates. John Kuzmanich (OTP Chair) is on video yelling Ron Paul 2012. It is sad to see that a once active and influential movement in Oregon has been hijacked by goofballs and relegated to silly photo opportunities while our country faces issues demanding the type of leadership the Oregon Tea Party apparently lacks.
@4merdem It's not John who yells RP2012. The flag was not stolen it was given to her. It was being disrespected and she took temporary custody and brought it behind police protection until she could be assured it would be properly respected. Thanks for commenting.
@4merdem - this is Deb and you could not be more wrong. I intended to liberate the flag and happened to run into John and cameraman in the process. I was running with giddiness as I felt exhilarated to be freeing the flag from a distressful state. In my mind, I was respecting our country and military. There was no photo op pre-meditated anything. I say this with total honesty. And, btw, it was not John yelling Ron Paul. Again, facts are so important when it comes to media.
@daylightdisinfectant I really admire how you handle the leftist hatred on here. I've commented many times as to the vulgarity of these anarchists having a direct correlation to their lack of vocabulary. Thousands of words in the english language and these geniuses use the same 2 or 3 repeatedly. LOL!
BTW, the US flag code indicates it's an act of distress not disrespect to fly the flag union sign down. Stop drinking the kool-aid, stop believing everything Fox tells you and UnOccupy ignorance. Ever heard of the first amendment? And you call yourself a patriot? I call you a thief. But, I guess nowadays, given the heinous thieving on wall street, thievery is legal. Figures!
@tfawcett83 i'm sorry but it's already been pretty well documented here that the flag was being mistreated. and it was stolen according to the woman but it was asked for and provided. but thanks for commenting.
@daylightdisinfectant How was it mistreated? The flag code itself says that flying it upside down is a sign of DISTRESS. Disrespect and distress are not the same thing. Get a clue. Our country is falling apart at the hands of ignorance and corporate greed and you do not think it appropriate to fly a flag upside to signify distress?
@tfawcett83 - to be perfectly honest with you, I "used" to drink the kool-aid and believed everything Fox News said. But, I have developed a whole new perspective and have to dig for the real truth and not falsely accuse people. Flag code states: "The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property." You should also consider digging for the truth. People will take you more seriously then.
Oh wow, teabaggers steal a flag. Big fucking deal. What will be their next big caper? Hoarding packs of creamer from the LIBERAL Starbucks? THAT'LL SHOW 'EM!
@DarknessUnresolved hmmm Tigard? the videographer lives 10 minutes walk from where this was shot and has lived in pdx for 5 years. you're showing your ignorance, and by dropping the f-bomb, illustrating the true civility of the left ... sounds like sour grapes to me. but thanks for commenting and be sure to subscribe!
@daylightdisinfectant So the guy lives here, fine. I'll take your word for it. However, your assertion that my using the word 'fuck' somehow implies a lack of civility on my part is both stunning and hilarious. Let us focus on this RED HERRING for just a second. If saying 'fuck' somehow shows the "left" lacks civility, then what would YOU call it when people on the "right" drops the "n-bomb"?
Such as when a mob of teabaggers repeatedly yelled N***** at congressman John Lewis(D-GA) in 2010?
@DarknessUnresolved IT NEVER HAPPENED . You are brainwashed. Google Andrew Breitbart offers reward. Andrew Bart offered $100,000 if someone could produce a tape of video of someone saying it once at that time. It never happened. On the other hand It's the LEFT that is racist, engaging in class warfare and actually calling blacks "Uncle Toms" and "Token Blacks" right in front of Black children here at Pioneer. Educate yourself, and clean up your language if you want another comment up here.
@daylightdisinfectant Dude, YOU'RE the one who's brain-washed! It DID happen and it's been documented! What next, you're going to try and tell me the Holocaust never happened?
@Callahan757575 Now while I approve of the sentiments. I do not approve of the F-Bomb at all. Let's be civil and have a civil dialogue. And by all means: SUBSCRIBE to the DD!
@daylightdisinfectant You approve of the sentiment behind someone calling fellow Americans "evil fucks" and telling them they belong in hell? By the way, what is a "real" American? I think it's pretty damn real to exercise the First Amendment right to assemble peacefully and ask your government for redress. Or does that only apply to white, hillbillies?
@tfawcett83 i don't approve of that language while i might approve of the underlying sentiments. the supreme court has ruled that local governments can place reasonable limitations on the time and place for free speech. that would mean getting a permit and not destroying the park. but you knew that. more name calling ... more civility of the left. please feel free to comment on my next video.
Despite recording a premeditated larceny, putting your names on it, and publicly displaying it, for you are some of the smartest right-wingers I have ever seen. Expect to see some cops.
@eatenmyeyes Bring it on! I'm just the editor! But if I were a judge I would ask the pretty lady: you asked for it? Deb: YES, and they gave it to you: "YES" Ummmm ... Did they attempt to get it back from you? Ummmmm No ... Not seeing much of a crime here. I've seen a lot of cops ... unfortunately for you they have been heading your direction.
@eatenmyeyes - I was allowed across the street by a policeman by simply stating my purpose for crossing the street which was to liberate the flag. In order to charge me with larceny, you would have to tell me EXACTLY who I allegedly stole it from? Do you have any proof of that? Again, why so quick to judge? I didn't want to be on YouTube. Do you think I enjoy being called a criminal, bitch, thief simply for respecting our American flag?
Like children playing Capture the Flag the all but comatose fringe element of the Oregon Tea Party "under the influence" of John Kuzmanich and possibly something else steals a flag belonging to some "disrespectful" Occupiers. Nothing but Tea Partying Paulbots desperately seeking a photo opportunity. An embarrassing lack of leadership.
@4merdem "Paulbots" Again with the name calling. It's not befitting of an intelligent citizen willing to have a meaningful political dialogue. The flag was not stolen is my understanding. She asked for it and they gave it to her? I personally think it's great symbolism of the differences between the TEA Party Patriots and the Occupiers. One is a group of great thinkers. The other a Violent Mob.
I never expected this to make it to YouTube, but if you will allow me to have my moment to speak on it, then here goes. The flag code states: "The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property." Secondly, I spoke to some of the Occupy individuals and they did not have a clear understanding of what they stood for; hence my comment on that. And, third, I did not steal the flag but simply asked for it.
What do you mean there is/was no distress? This country is a mess. That flag will fly upside down for a country in dire distress until this movment has succeeded. Now as for that thieving bitch. Pretty stupid to put your face out there admitting you stole someone else's property. Ignorant bitch.
@RONIinPDX Let's tease it apart piece by piece. First off the intention is imminent distress such as persons requiring emergency medical attention. They do not mean: "my pet Government program is not getting funded sufficiently.." Secondly, she simply asked for the flag and it was given to her. That's not stealing is it. Lastly is the non-civil nature of you comment. May I ask do you identify with the Left? The Left seems to insist on civility from others but offers none of their own.
@jamdox I'm afraid that is simply inaccurate. Why am I a criminal I am just the media? :/ From Deb above: "The flag code states: "The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property." Secondly, I spoke to some of the Occupy individuals and they did not have a clear understanding of what they stood for; hence my comment on that. And, third, I did not steal the flag but simply asked for it."
@jamdox - some of the Occupiers were sincere. I totally agree with you on it. But, had you been there, you may put your hateful words aside and realize that many of the Occupiers were simply destroying the park and had no rhyme or reason for being there. They were riding the elk statue like a bull, wildly waving the flag, and turning it upside down. I wonder how you would react to something you so firmly believe in? Be careful of judging too quickly and being so hateful.
@RONIinPDX - I'm sad to see that you are so quick to judge. You were not there. I spoke to individuals on the Occupy side. Some of them actually stood for things I believe in. We had some common ground. My opinion for respecting the American flag is clearly different from yours. But, why the hateful words? In my mind, I was honoring the brave men and women who serve our country everyday. I did not steal it, it was handed to me.
@EmmettLollis But there was no distress so it is disrespect. Or? Also draping it like that over antlers? Amongst many other things. Very disrespectful. Or?
Gonna lay it down thick here.
Occupy IS an anarchistic movement. The pacified liberals don't want it to be because it hurts their reformist efforts. American flags were flown together with Marxist and Anarchist flags during the industrial revolution. Anarchist gave us 8 hour work days.
To the video poster. You didn't do anything but walk up and grab the flag, no one was ever going to stop you. They're a peaceful group who are resourceful enough to find another flag rather than cry THIEVES!
thenoorys 1 month ago
@thenoorys Your comments show you have no idea what you are talking about. The "Liberator" grabbed nothing. She asked and they gave. If they did not want to give it up, they should not have been disrespecting it like that. Anarchists have murdered many innocent Americans over the decades and the end does not justify the means, even if what you propose in terms of so-called "Workers Rights" is true. And by the way, they have cried "Thieves" here many times like the whining babies they are.
daylightdisinfectant 1 month ago
THank you for personifying the Occupy movement. And thank God we were successful in getting vermin like you eradicated from Chapman and Lonsdale Squares. Please subscribe!
daylightdisinfectant 2 months ago
UNITED STATES ÜBER ALLES!
Fuck your flag.
Fuck your patriotism.
Fuck your ignorance.
Fuck your capitalism.
I will stand up for unrelenting freedom. I will string my black flag high. Insurrection will bring down the state, bring down the cops, bring down the monetary system, bring down fascism, capitalism, socialism, the rich, corporations, private property.
No war but class war.
Anarchy is order.
Only then will true freedom be achieved.
(A)
opti296 2 months ago
@opti296 i agree with all but bringing down socialism, as anarchism is a form of socialism. :D
megaminxmaster 1 month ago
Follow your Führer you nationalist fools.
Burn that fucking flag. Fly the black flag of freedom (A) No borders, no nations, no banks.
bjarczyk 2 months ago 11
@bjarczyk You views epitomize the Occupy movement. It was so satisfying to help get them thrown out of the Park, and now marginalized through diligent journalism.
daylightdisinfectant 2 months ago
@daylightdisinfectant The views of bjarcczyk are actually counter to the occupy movement and really do hurt it by convincing people like you that it is something it's not. The sect he belongs to is known as the black bloc anarchists and they have been around long before Occupy began. They try to infiltrate any group or event where they feel they can be disruptive and "bring down the system." They target occupy events because they are peaceful and tend to be more tolerant than tea party ones.
arcadeartist1 2 months ago
@bjarczyk ...and no future, for people like you, who type safely from the basement of their mother's warm home.
ladylordess 2 months ago
@bjarczyk That's never going to happen you hypocrite.
warfossil 2 months ago
i'm sorry, she sounds kind of drunk.
R4INYD4Y 2 months ago 2
GRATS to her .. for saving Ol GLORY ... we need more people like her :D
SupaNami 3 months ago
Big government anarchists... that's the Left's ideological incoherence in a nutshell.
USA4July1776 3 months ago 2
This has been covered time and time again here. Flying it upside down in this circumstance WAS disrespectful. But moreover, they were flying it WITH a Communist flag as well. It was disgusting and she rescued it. Good on her. And now they are gone, Thank God.
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
As a former Marine it saddens me to see this woman think she did something good by stealing an American flag. She really shows her ignorance in 3 specific ways.
Firstly, she states that the flag was being disrespected by being flown upside down. It is actually done to show that a country or ship it is flown on is in distress.
Second, she openly states that she does not know what the occupy movement is about.
Third, she incorrectly states that they are anarchists. Some may be but most are not.
arcadeartist1 3 months ago 6
@arcadeartist1 You hit the nail on the head. Also 'Comments may be held for uploader approval'...Pardon my use of a term that has been used to disparage women historically, but in the parlons of our times..."Bitch Move."
FablesOfFaubus 2 months ago
@FablesOfFaubus You don'r like me filtering out the racist homophobic crap that that occupiers try and post here, then go find some other channel. Chonic complainer like the rest of the Occutard herd. Don't even bother commenting again.
daylightdisinfectant 2 months ago
@arcadeartist1 I was there flag WAS being flown in multiple disrespectful ways including dragging it, having a Marxism flag flown with it, and being flown to indicate distress when none was present. She knew enough about occupy from what she saw there filthy malevolent law breakers, Third she's right: a good many were anarchists very well know to me. Don't like it? Find another channel.
daylightdisinfectant 2 months ago
@arcadeartist1 Well, we do know that all are ignorant self-serving jackasses. How did you get to the point where you're siding with them Jar-head? It doesn't make your blood boil to see how they treat anything red-white-and blue? Look at that post above yours where the Occupyist says "burn that fucking flag"...
Get your head right and remember your oath.
USObservatory 2 months ago
you stupid fucking portland anarchists..I swear the A's are a bunch of PC punk ass pussies...Ya'll should have kicked that bitch in the fucking teeth. I hate yall
radiojustus 3 months ago
@radiojustus i don't advocate violence
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
@daylightdisinfectant i wasn't talking to you or about you.
radiojustus 3 months ago
YES WE CAN!
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
Anarchists are NOT ANTI AMERICA, they are ANTI GOVERNMENT. That flag represents the United States of the Government not AMERICA!!!!!! Anarchists LOVE AMERICA but hate this corrupt government! This lady supports killers who invade other countries for corporate and government GREED!!!!
zboy812 3 months ago
Is "liberating" the word TeaBaggers use instead of "stealing"?
jimbonepdx 3 months ago
@jimbonepdx That's pretty rich coming from a leftwingnut. Haven't you welfare cases been stealing from us 53% for years? When did you get a conscience, when it became convenient?
Redlegarty 3 months ago in playlist Liked videos
@jimbonepdx- The "Teabaggers" you fear so much are better people than the Occupiers. How many sexual assaults happened at Tea Party rallies? How many times did the police have to intervene at Tea party rallies? The Tea Party was in fact what the Occuliars claim to be, non-violent and respectful of others.
boogiechillen123 3 months ago 2
it means whoever displays it in such a manner is in distress
locotio 3 months ago
upside down flag means the country's in distress, doesn't it?
mariomoose 3 months ago
@mariomoose yes as in terms of a ship sinking in the ocean and woman and children dying, not in terms of some hippie not getting his/her chips food stamps or GUBMINT provided methadone. so it's abuse. it was also dragged around and not not allowed to hang freely as well. those are only two other violations of flag code we witnessed. but thanks for playing and please subscribe now that we got them kicked out of Camp Commie.
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago 2
@daylightdisinfectant I know that the upside-down flag has been used by numerous Veterans who have shown their disgust for what the elected government has done to our country and the Constitution. The flag, in my opinion, has become a false ideology that gives the average patriotic America the cohesive glue, to adhere to old traditions, in order to just shut up when their told and obey whatever this Masonic/Baphomet worshiping run Government decides to do.
damian635 3 months ago
@damian635 Call me a simple kind of man, but I'm a Patriot, and I love the American Flag (flown right side up and respected). But feel free to subscribe.
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
@daylightdisinfectant I find no fault in you being a simple man and a Patriot. My father is the same, and a Veteran of Vietnam. However, with individuals like Kissinger, Rockefeller and Brzezinski who have long put there own goals and aspirations over those like yourself, manipulating the current state of American Government and foreign policy through think-tanks such as the Council on Foreign Relations, they have essentially(with all their arrogance)spit on the flag and the Constitution.
damian635 3 months ago
@damian635 Don't quite get the background but I'm all for not spitting on the flag. PLease subscribe.
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
@daylightdisinfectant again... tsk tsk tsk. First of all... the only time anarchist is mentioned is by the Tea Party.
Second of all... an upside down American flag is symbolic... Its meaning is "A Nation In Distress." If you, as you say in one of your comments, "love the American flag," then you might have a bit more understanding of the symbolism of her different positions.
SpyThis 3 months ago
@SpyThis really? check out what they did to the photographer up in olympia. second that's distress as in a boat going down, not someone not getting their food stamps. we've covered all this. have something intelligent to say or don't bother commenting again.
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
Good on her
redbrest 3 months ago
An upside down flag represents "Distress." The flag represents more than soldiers that have served in the military. It represents all of the ideals that the U.S. is supposed to represent: Included among these are freedom of speech and the right to peaceably assemble. Your goal here seems to be to collect clips of the jackasses who are associated with OP, but not give fair play to the better ideas behind it.
Toddaloop 3 months ago
@Toddaloop Try not associating with "jackasses" which typify the movement and you won't have to worry about it. This movement has represented Lawlessness and Communism from the get go. First off by denying me *my* free speech by defying local ordinances in innumerable ways. Don't want to look like a "jackass" then move away from the "jackasses" and Communists who typify this so-called movement which in actuality is a front for the unions and Liberal fat cats like George Soros.
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
@Toddaloop
What, exactly, are these "better ideas", Toddaloop? I keep asking this question of you OWS people, and so far, NONE of you has even ATTEMPTED to answer me. Why? Because you don't know specifics, you'd rather remain in the shadows of "vaguery for a better way". I realize that its a safe place to be, when you have no logical basis for your argument. But, my god man! Somebody tell me what your mission is!
M855shooter 3 months ago
@M855shooter My experience is the same as yours having spent countless hours down there.
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
The tea party is dead...
blackmesa176 3 months ago
@blackmesa176 Hahahahah. Check any honest polling data. WSJ 63% of Americans are against OWS. Gee mainstream Americans are against Communism. How strange.
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
Get off the iPhone paid for by your parents, get real lives where you and nobody else pays your rent and your bills, and you'll find that you don't have so much time to stand around and whine just for the sake of whining.
M855shooter 3 months ago
You DO NOT have a right to harass and intimidate other citizens of your city who may not see things the way you do, and are just trying to get on with their lives. Either figure out what you are going to say, say it, and go home. Or just go home and come back when you figure out what you are whining about. Just had to say that for the misguided couple of souls who seem to think this is their right and that "the damage isn't that bad".
M855shooter 3 months ago
@M855shooter Agree totally. Right on!
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
This is clearly not a protest in the context of what is allowed by the Constitution. These people don't even know that the hell they are protesting about, so this is not done for the purpose of disagreeing with the government. This is about tactics to get attention, plain and simple. Yes, you have a right to make your voice heard. You DO NOT have a right to disrupt the day-to-day operations of a city, for weeks on end.
M855shooter 3 months ago
The First Amendment provides the right of the people to peaceably assemble, and I realize that a couple of misguided individuals here are standing on that until they're blue in the face in defending this disgrace know as the "occupy" movement. I have to ask them again though, what are they protesting? What point are they trying to make? Our country allows people to express their gripes with how they are being governed, but here we are, what is it? Two months into this thing?
M855shooter 3 months ago
I would agree with burning the flag! If those liberal Nazis were wrapped in them. The flag sacrificed for freeing America from stupidity. It would be worth it, the flag would have its revenge.
onemarktwoyou 3 months ago
Way to steal the flag back. CTF
BlueRonsonol 3 months ago
Do you not understand that an upside down flag is not disrespectful but in fact represents a nation in distress.
BlueRonsonol 3 months ago
@BlueRonsonol Distress like when a boat is sinking, not that you did not get your food stamps this week. That's not an emergency. The anarchists misused it, it's abuse and disrespect. But get a life and feel free to Unsubscibe.
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
the tea party is just a bunch of white supremacists
HeadbangakillstheKKK 3 months ago
@HeadbangakillstheKKK Go to my channel and look up "Left Taunts, Harasses and Hurls Racial Insults at African American Man Attending TEA Party." You'll find out who *REALLY* are the racists. It's the Left. Don't bother commenting again until you have watched the video and have a clue. But thanks for commenting and please feel free to subscribe.
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
Lame.....You do realize that many of the protesters are themselves Veterans?
I do not fully agree with the Occupation part but do agree with the entire message.
Why don't you Tea Party people stop thinking with your wallets and start thinking with your brain. This lady is absolutely ignorant and obviously only watches one news channel, Fox News.
misfits758 3 months ago
@misfits758 Wrong. By in larger they are Communists, Socialists, Anarchists and other Leftists miscreants. Just look at my channel. These people disrepected the flag and it is a moment of vistory for the TEA Party was we see it.
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
Whoo Hooo! Somebody make sure that lady gets to eat anywhere in town for the next month.
Omnicronimous 3 months ago
@Omnicronimous Nice! I agree!
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
So... Isn't this theft?
JamesW6179 3 months ago
@JamesW6179 Nope. She asked and they gave it to her. Fools.
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
Thank you for saving the flag deb, it means a lot to US Veterans and active duty
Craig5233 3 months ago
God Bless her
Craig5233 3 months ago
@daylightdisinfectant I take offense in you misrepresenting who we are and what we are about by forcing the minority of the movement to represent the majority! As far as the parks are concerned, the Parks and Rec dept. has set up a donation fund, & I for one have contributed, & I know many others have. This movement is about community, & having a dialogue with the community, IMO, and I feel the convo on the larger issues is being lost by nit-picking a lot of smaller issues. how bout solutions?
themofer 3 months ago
@themofer Give me a can of mixed nuts I'm not going to sort them out for you. This movement is typified by lawless incoherent violent people as I have seen it. And I have been boots on the ground since day one. But thanks for commenting and please ... subscribe.
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
@daylightdisinfectant I never said we should run wild and take over the city, in fact, I said that I do think there needs to be police presence to keep the peace!! I don't agree with the misuse of our police force, a misuse that has left the rest of the city wide open for the real criminals to have the run of the city! I don't mind having a civil discussion on issues, and I'm sure we could agree on some things, but I won't respond to name calling.
themofer 3 months ago
@themofer comments: "I never said we should run wild and take over the city" THEN FRIGGING DON'T. On a personal level I am sick of paying for you people. Go home and stop committing acts of violence and vandalism of public and provate property. But thanks for commenting and please subscribe.
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
@daylightdisinfectant "cost of the police?" I ask you if you think it is appropriate for our elected officials to use as many officers as they have been, knowing full well the cost it would be to the city, & the fact that *for the most part* things have been pretty peaceful? I agree there should be a large police presence to keep the peace, & keep crime down with that many protesters, but not so many that rape victims get ignored for 3 hours. Waste of resources, & city at fault for a lot of OT $
themofer 3 months ago
@themofer so we should have let you monsters run wild and take over the city? get real. and when can we expect that check to repair the parks? so glad the bums are out of there.
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
Thank you Deb for having some respect for our great nation and our flag,not like one of these commie freaks.
Lonewolf3000X 3 months ago 2
@Lonewolf3000X LIKEing it!!
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
@daylightdisinfectant "Hundreds of thousands in damage" in Chapman and Lownsdale squares? Most of the damage was to grass! Yes some trees damaged, but I personally saw one of the news crews break 10' limb by raising their transmission tower on their van. Dirt can be replaced, grass grows back, the trees live, the benches needed to be replaced anyway, & the bathrooms were nasty to begin with. Many protesters have offered to help clean both monetarily and physically.The official estimate: 19k
themofer 3 months ago
@themofer And the cost of the police?
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
Our country is in distress! They are trying to wake the country up to this fact using many creative ways, flying it upside down is one of them. That is the reason why protesters are flying it upside down. It is not a sign of disrespect! I am also not as naive to think that some idiots will disrespect the flag, and fly it upside down because "it's cool" or "trendy" among their friends, but there are many protesters who do fly the flag upside down to show our country is in distress.
themofer 3 months ago
@themofer Ahhh but you see ... the ends do *not* justify the means. Unless you are a Loony Lib who subscribes to Alinsky tactics. The flag being used in this way unnecessarily, or being disrespected in other ways to meet your objective does not make it right. Neither does breaking numerous City ordinances. That's why Camp Commie is *gone*. But please ... subscribe!
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.” ― Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
charlatan73 3 months ago
@charlatan73 Freedom is a spectrum. If you were down there today you would have seen it, mainstream people wanting the anarchists to be in charge. First will come anarchy, and then will come fascism, as nature abhors a vacuum. Then the first people they will put in jail will be people of the Liberal Elite, like Sam Adams. Thanks for commenting.
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
@daylightdisinfectant An upside down flag is a sign of distress, and it makes sense in this context. I don't see "rescuing" the flag as helping anyone. It just serves to distract and I was down there :). I am a bit of a moderate (moderate democrat) and I see where your coming from. I've seen some crazies, but most people down there are not too extreme. As for the anarchists and the communists...yikes. I was not marching on their behalf.
charlatan73 3 months ago
@charlatan73 You should be careful of the company you keep. For example the movement is endorsed by the Communist Party USA. They march with you. But thanks for commenting!
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
@daylightdisinfectant The communist party is a bit of a joke (only some 60,000 members or something). Not much power or political influence to speak of. The tea party was endorsed by white supremacist David Duke, but I don't assume all of them lean that way. Once again, I don't have to be a communist to march, and those who marched with the Tea Party are not white supremacists. Most who did were just average people. Most who got on youtube, were ill informed, and a bit extreme.
charlatan73 3 months ago
@charlatan73 no association between the TEA Party and white supremacy. there is a HUGE association between the Left here in Portland and racism. check out my 150k plus view video, "Left Taunts, Harasses and Hurls Racial Insults at African American Man Attending TEA Party." So the evidence supports you hang with racists *AND* Communists. Such a beautiful "movement."
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
@daylightdisinfectant I gave you WAY to much credit. lol One sided as ever. Have a nice life.
charlatan73 3 months ago
@charlatan73 Did you even watch the video I mentioned? NO. Truth hurts. Deal.
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
@daylightdisinfectant That's a bald-faced lie. Occupy is not "endorsed" by ANYONE!
At least, no more so than the American Nazi party endorses the teabagger movement.
DarknessUnresolved 3 months ago
@DarknessUnresolved absolutely is Google it. But nice try. American Nazi Party and Communist Party USA. Both.
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
an upside down flag is not disrespect. do your research. It's a sign of distress. I hate people that are so die hard to have one side against the other that their blinding urge to always be correct shadows out fact. so, yea, screw fixing the country, just keep perpetuating fighting amongst ourselves. Great job!
settone03 3 months ago
@settone03 Yes it's "in distress" like when the boat is sinking, not when you don't feel like making your student loan payment. But thanks for commenting and please .... SUBSCRIBE!.
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
"I don't know what the movement is all about" -- perfect quote to describe the Tea Party and its basis on ignorance and rabid nationalism.
The flag is not about soldiers, it's about the USA, a country which is now in distress due to government corruption and collusion with the financial industry. Ron Paul, who you so admire, would agree with flying the flag upside down as a distress symbol.
Go read a book (other than Atlas Shrugged)
doglessliberal 3 months ago
@doglessliberal From being down there I still still don't know what it's about except the destruction of personal and private property. But Thanks for commenting and PLease subscribe.
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
@daylightdisinfectant I just told you what it's about: "a country which is now in distress due to government corruption and collusion with the financial industry"
Please, tell me what "personal and private property" OWS has destroyed, or set out to destroy. I'm all ears.
doglessliberal 3 months ago
@doglessliberal Yeah so when it's not real distress and you use it that way, it's abuse. HAve you seen the pictures of Chapman and Lonsdals Squares since the cops moved out the filthy vermine. Hundres of thousands in damage. But please feel free to comment on my next video and subscribe!
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
@doglessliberal - this is Deb and I would like you to know why I said "I don't know what the movement about is". I actually took the time to speak with some of the Occupiers to try to understand their position and see if we have Common Ground. Most of them didn't know themselves. But, I did talk to one individual who agreed with me about auditing the Federal Reserve. Ron Paul is the only candidate who consistently calls for that. You want to get rid of corruption, start there!
DebPatriot 3 months ago
Tea party ignorance at it's best again. Learn what an upside down flag means you dolts.
tfawcett83 3 months ago
@tfawcett83 It means distress, not the fact that you fear your Food Stamps going away. But thanks for the comment and please ... subscribe.
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
@daylightdisinfectant
True, it means distress. What are the odds the "Occupy" people know what it means? I'm guessing the odds aren't good. Tfawcett, I invite you to my page to share your thoughts about what the "Occupy" movement stands for. All I see in documented video so far, is a bunch of lying hypocrites that "rage against the machine" while looking for people to donate electric generators so they can charge their laptops and iPhones.
M855shooter 3 months ago
@M855shooter Ignorance is no excuse. They need to learn better ;-) jk
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
@daylightdisinfectant
Continued...
A bunch of "Save the planet" types who shun meat and carry cloth grocery bags, all while defecating in public places and leaving their trash behind for others to pick up, instead of disposing of it properly in trash bins that our "evil" corporate government has set up for orderly maintenance, or GASP, taking it out themselves and making sure it gets to its proper place.
M855shooter 3 months ago
@daylightdisinfectant So you don't think this nation is in distress?
chasethomasangelo 3 months ago
@chasethomasangelo I *do*. BUt the OWS movement, and embracement of lawlessness is making it worse not better. But please try a TEA Party and .... SUBSCRIBE.
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
@daylightdisinfectant Oh sure, i bet most of your fellow teabagger comrades are taking govt. subsidies of some sort. Food stamps, SS, Medicaid, Medicare, retirement, cash assistance, disability, worker's comp., military discounts, etc.
Hand-out after hand-out. Greedy white people - always with their hands out!
DarknessUnresolved 3 months ago
@DarknessUnresolved Ahhh use of homophobic sexually derogatory terms and racist slurs both in the same comment! Thanks for proving out two of my assertions against the Left in a single post! I ::LIKE::ed your comment now please ... SUBSCRIBE.
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
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irdial 3 months ago in playlist More videos from daylightdisinfectant
@irdial sorry. not stealing. asked. given. no crime. but thanks for playing ... and ... BE SURE TO SUBSCRIBE!
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
@4merdem The reporter didn't know any such thing and that was a personal opinion being expressed. Get a life.
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
I can't help but smile each time I view this. Way to go Deb. We should all have such tenacity, bravery, and respect for our flag and the great nation it represents.
badbluesdaddy 3 months ago 7
@badbluesdaddy Me too..
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
Last night about 3 AM I noticed that our video regarding Deb liberating the flag had been stolen. A YouTube user, "OccupyMediaDotORG" apparently upset with our removal of some uncivil comments, downloaded the original video and re-uploaded it in-full, for his own use and profit, leaving comments unmoderated. I immediately filed a notice of copyright infringement with YouTube, LLC. I'm happy to report that, as of this morning, their illegal copy has been taken down.
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
@daylightdisinfectant Title 17 U.S. Code. Section 107 - 118. "Fair use". Section 107 contains a list of the various purposes for which the reproduction of a particular work may be considered fair, such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research.
Criticism, comment, news reporting. Sounds like what this person was doing with your video.
floydgroover 3 months ago
@floydgroover Nonetheless ... there are opposing views on the Law (I'm not an Attorney) we intend to protect our property and will file paperwork on all future infringements. Thanks for commenting and please: subscribe!
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
Good job. Love this video!
Deb representin' Ron Paul right next to Kuz... there's some irony for ya. Hope he sees us Paulbots in a bit better light now. I had the unfortunate privilege of being "unfriended" by him on fb during a discussion about Ron Paul. I have no idea why, either. I was entirely respectful during the whole conversation.
Was the camera man (daylight disinfectant, I presume) who said "Ron Paul 2012" being facetious or sincere? Ron Paul is the best hope for America.
ironclad452 3 months ago
Good job, Deb! You are a great contrast between the Tea Partiers who love America and want to restore her greatness vs. the Occupiers, who wish to take over America, eliminate the Constitution, and recreate a nation that does not include Liberty. I pledge allegiance to the flag, of the United States of America, and I'm proud to see people like you, who pledge the same allegiance, and show courage enough to defend her!
allysonrk 3 months ago
WTG Tea Party!
jtbpnw 3 months ago
The running away and giddy behavior suggests they stole the flag. However, it was only a prop for camera face time..The Oregon Tea Party once held a stance of not endorsing candidates. John Kuzmanich (OTP Chair) is on video yelling Ron Paul 2012. It is sad to see that a once active and influential movement in Oregon has been hijacked by goofballs and relegated to silly photo opportunities while our country faces issues demanding the type of leadership the Oregon Tea Party apparently lacks.
4merdem 3 months ago
@4merdem It's not John who yells RP2012. The flag was not stolen it was given to her. It was being disrespected and she took temporary custody and brought it behind police protection until she could be assured it would be properly respected. Thanks for commenting.
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
@4merdem - this is Deb and you could not be more wrong. I intended to liberate the flag and happened to run into John and cameraman in the process. I was running with giddiness as I felt exhilarated to be freeing the flag from a distressful state. In my mind, I was respecting our country and military. There was no photo op pre-meditated anything. I say this with total honesty. And, btw, it was not John yelling Ron Paul. Again, facts are so important when it comes to media.
DebPatriot 3 months ago
@DebPatriot You're right on all counts. Thanks for what you did. You are an inspiration to me.
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
That's pretty awesome.
And "Deb" is hot.
TheShannon76 3 months ago
@TheShannon76 Hell Yeah! Even the Anarchists have to like that comment!
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
@daylightdisinfectant I really admire how you handle the leftist hatred on here. I've commented many times as to the vulgarity of these anarchists having a direct correlation to their lack of vocabulary. Thousands of words in the english language and these geniuses use the same 2 or 3 repeatedly. LOL!
TheDayApproaches 3 months ago
@TheDayApproaches I try to pretend I'm like my office mate Thomas Jefferson. Like My Mom always said: "Be the bigger person".
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
BTW, the US flag code indicates it's an act of distress not disrespect to fly the flag union sign down. Stop drinking the kool-aid, stop believing everything Fox tells you and UnOccupy ignorance. Ever heard of the first amendment? And you call yourself a patriot? I call you a thief. But, I guess nowadays, given the heinous thieving on wall street, thievery is legal. Figures!
tfawcett83 3 months ago
@tfawcett83 i'm sorry but it's already been pretty well documented here that the flag was being mistreated. and it was stolen according to the woman but it was asked for and provided. but thanks for commenting.
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
@daylightdisinfectant How was it mistreated? The flag code itself says that flying it upside down is a sign of DISTRESS. Disrespect and distress are not the same thing. Get a clue. Our country is falling apart at the hands of ignorance and corporate greed and you do not think it appropriate to fly a flag upside to signify distress?
tfawcett83 3 months ago
@tfawcett83 Read Deb's comments. Definitely disrespected on a number of levels.
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
@tfawcett83 - to be perfectly honest with you, I "used" to drink the kool-aid and believed everything Fox News said. But, I have developed a whole new perspective and have to dig for the real truth and not falsely accuse people. Flag code states: "The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property." You should also consider digging for the truth. People will take you more seriously then.
DebPatriot 3 months ago
Oh wow, teabaggers steal a flag. Big fucking deal. What will be their next big caper? Hoarding packs of creamer from the LIBERAL Starbucks? THAT'LL SHOW 'EM!
Go back to Tigard, Conservatards!
DarknessUnresolved 3 months ago
@DarknessUnresolved hmmm Tigard? the videographer lives 10 minutes walk from where this was shot and has lived in pdx for 5 years. you're showing your ignorance, and by dropping the f-bomb, illustrating the true civility of the left ... sounds like sour grapes to me. but thanks for commenting and be sure to subscribe!
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago 5
@daylightdisinfectant So the guy lives here, fine. I'll take your word for it. However, your assertion that my using the word 'fuck' somehow implies a lack of civility on my part is both stunning and hilarious. Let us focus on this RED HERRING for just a second. If saying 'fuck' somehow shows the "left" lacks civility, then what would YOU call it when people on the "right" drops the "n-bomb"?
Such as when a mob of teabaggers repeatedly yelled N***** at congressman John Lewis(D-GA) in 2010?
DarknessUnresolved 3 months ago
@DarknessUnresolved IT NEVER HAPPENED . You are brainwashed. Google Andrew Breitbart offers reward. Andrew Bart offered $100,000 if someone could produce a tape of video of someone saying it once at that time. It never happened. On the other hand It's the LEFT that is racist, engaging in class warfare and actually calling blacks "Uncle Toms" and "Token Blacks" right in front of Black children here at Pioneer. Educate yourself, and clean up your language if you want another comment up here.
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
@daylightdisinfectant Dude, YOU'RE the one who's brain-washed! It DID happen and it's been documented! What next, you're going to try and tell me the Holocaust never happened?
Crazy white people!
DarknessUnresolved 3 months ago
@DarknessUnresolved Ahhhhh RACISM. Yep. Give 'em enough rope and they will hangthemselves every time. Oh ... be sure to subscribe!
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
Well done!!!
Imjetta7 3 months ago
@Imjetta7 thank you!
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
God bless the Woman,, A REAL AMERICAN! FUCK the anti american evil fucks in OWS! All of them have their place in HELL!
Callahan757575 3 months ago
@Callahan757575 Now while I approve of the sentiments. I do not approve of the F-Bomb at all. Let's be civil and have a civil dialogue. And by all means: SUBSCRIBE to the DD!
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
@daylightdisinfectant You approve of the sentiment behind someone calling fellow Americans "evil fucks" and telling them they belong in hell? By the way, what is a "real" American? I think it's pretty damn real to exercise the First Amendment right to assemble peacefully and ask your government for redress. Or does that only apply to white, hillbillies?
tfawcett83 3 months ago
@tfawcett83 i don't approve of that language while i might approve of the underlying sentiments. the supreme court has ruled that local governments can place reasonable limitations on the time and place for free speech. that would mean getting a permit and not destroying the park. but you knew that. more name calling ... more civility of the left. please feel free to comment on my next video.
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
Despite recording a premeditated larceny, putting your names on it, and publicly displaying it, for you are some of the smartest right-wingers I have ever seen. Expect to see some cops.
eatenmyeyes 3 months ago
@eatenmyeyes Bring it on! I'm just the editor! But if I were a judge I would ask the pretty lady: you asked for it? Deb: YES, and they gave it to you: "YES" Ummmm ... Did they attempt to get it back from you? Ummmmm No ... Not seeing much of a crime here. I've seen a lot of cops ... unfortunately for you they have been heading your direction.
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
@daylightdisinfectant
It appears that it was entrusted to her and was then taken with intent to permanently deprive. That is embezzlement.
eatenmyeyes 3 months ago
@eatenmyeyes I don't see it that way. She asked. They gave. A gift. And didn't it belong to her to begin with anyway?
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
@eatenmyeyes - I was allowed across the street by a policeman by simply stating my purpose for crossing the street which was to liberate the flag. In order to charge me with larceny, you would have to tell me EXACTLY who I allegedly stole it from? Do you have any proof of that? Again, why so quick to judge? I didn't want to be on YouTube. Do you think I enjoy being called a criminal, bitch, thief simply for respecting our American flag?
DebPatriot 3 months ago 2
Like children playing Capture the Flag the all but comatose fringe element of the Oregon Tea Party "under the influence" of John Kuzmanich and possibly something else steals a flag belonging to some "disrespectful" Occupiers. Nothing but Tea Partying Paulbots desperately seeking a photo opportunity. An embarrassing lack of leadership.
4merdem 3 months ago
@4merdem "Paulbots" Again with the name calling. It's not befitting of an intelligent citizen willing to have a meaningful political dialogue. The flag was not stolen is my understanding. She asked for it and they gave it to her? I personally think it's great symbolism of the differences between the TEA Party Patriots and the Occupiers. One is a group of great thinkers. The other a Violent Mob.
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
I never expected this to make it to YouTube, but if you will allow me to have my moment to speak on it, then here goes. The flag code states: "The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property." Secondly, I spoke to some of the Occupy individuals and they did not have a clear understanding of what they stood for; hence my comment on that. And, third, I did not steal the flag but simply asked for it.
DebPatriot 3 months ago 3
@DebPatriot Love ya Deb. Hold your head up high! You did right! Subscribe to the Channel. I'm giving you a great big hug on YouTube!
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
@DebPatriot I told you that you were cute enough to just ask for the flag. Way to go! CHEERS! :-)
prof2alexp 3 months ago
@prof2alexp You are a damn Patriot yourself! Way to go!
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
What do you mean there is/was no distress? This country is a mess. That flag will fly upside down for a country in dire distress until this movment has succeeded. Now as for that thieving bitch. Pretty stupid to put your face out there admitting you stole someone else's property. Ignorant bitch.
RONIinPDX 3 months ago
@RONIinPDX Let's tease it apart piece by piece. First off the intention is imminent distress such as persons requiring emergency medical attention. They do not mean: "my pet Government program is not getting funded sufficiently.." Secondly, she simply asked for the flag and it was given to her. That's not stealing is it. Lastly is the non-civil nature of you comment. May I ask do you identify with the Left? The Left seems to insist on civility from others but offers none of their own.
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
@daylightdisinfectant
You may disagree with the definition of "distress," but THEY were sincere about it, and therefore NOT disrespecting the flag.
So you stole the flag from people you disagree with.
Congratulations, you are an example of how the TEA Party is extreme and not willing to share the country.
Just because you disagree with someone, does NOT mean you get to steal from them! Get off your high horse, you CRIMINAL!!!
jamdox 3 months ago
@jamdox I'm afraid that is simply inaccurate. Why am I a criminal I am just the media? :/ From Deb above: "The flag code states: "The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property." Secondly, I spoke to some of the Occupy individuals and they did not have a clear understanding of what they stood for; hence my comment on that. And, third, I did not steal the flag but simply asked for it."
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
@jamdox - some of the Occupiers were sincere. I totally agree with you on it. But, had you been there, you may put your hateful words aside and realize that many of the Occupiers were simply destroying the park and had no rhyme or reason for being there. They were riding the elk statue like a bull, wildly waving the flag, and turning it upside down. I wonder how you would react to something you so firmly believe in? Be careful of judging too quickly and being so hateful.
DebPatriot 3 months ago
@DebPatriot I also can agree with the Occupiers on some issues. But the nature of this violent Mob left a real bad taste in my mouth.
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
@jamdox Just because you don't have money you want you can't take it. By government or any other means.
rrrr57a 3 months ago
@rrrr57a But I think your analogy falls flat. She asked, and they gave. A gift I say.
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
@RONIinPDX - I'm sad to see that you are so quick to judge. You were not there. I spoke to individuals on the Occupy side. Some of them actually stood for things I believe in. We had some common ground. My opinion for respecting the American flag is clearly different from yours. But, why the hateful words? In my mind, I was honoring the brave men and women who serve our country everyday. I did not steal it, it was handed to me.
DebPatriot 3 months ago
@DebPatriot Good on ya Deb!
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
@RONIinPDX sounds like they gave it to her after she asked for it. It is all on video.
themunz126 3 months ago
an upside down flag is a sign of distress, not anarchism. just so we're all on the same page.
BuddyFX1 3 months ago
@BuddyFX1 Agreed. Distress as in a ship going down. So using it in this way was abusing it, and disrespecting it. Thanks for commenting.
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
I've got26 LIKES and 6 DISLIKES. Suggest those in opposition post it to Liberal sites, since I detect a Liberal leaning to the negative comments?
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
Flying the flag upside down is a sign of distress, not an act of disrespect. See Marines etc.
EmmettLollis 3 months ago 2
@EmmettLollis But there was no distress so it is disrespect. Or? Also draping it like that over antlers? Amongst many other things. Very disrespectful. Or?
daylightdisinfectant 3 months ago
@EmmettLollis Agreed, however, these people MEAN it as a sign of disrespect; the intents of one's heart are just as important a one's actions.
Imjetta7 3 months ago 2