Pitching the reso to an "A" provides good starting point for both batter and snare-wire response. Initially, pitching both heads to an "A" , than raising the pitch of the snare batter will offer many different sound qualities to consider. It's important that you understand that SOUND IS SUBJECTIVE... if it sounds good to YOU... it's a good sound.
Well, I'd never answer Bob back, but to me it sounds like the C Sharp is not higher than the A. It's lower than the A. But this is also quiet Ok, because to me a snare sounds better when the batter is lower than the reso. Just like the toms.
I suggest trying the Evans combo....Powercenter-RD with the hazy 300 reso head. This combo offers a wide range of tunings and very good durability. It's a classic combination.
thanks for vid, Bob! it gave a different direction and picture. for some reason I've been using tuning for such a long time where I tuned snare side head pretty light and tighten batter head the regular way. what do you think about this? i know it sounds crazy but it gives me lot more "snares" for some reason. anyway, what would you recommend?
@sunnylee84 The "A" pitch is a middle road for the snare-reso head. Generally, tuning below the "A" pitch will suggest less definition in overall snare sound. On the other hand, tension above will encourage snare buzz. Bottom line... SOUND & FEEL is subjective. I suggest you tune it to the "A" and experiment with a wide variety of pitches from the batter. All that matters is..."If it sounds good to YOU... it's a good sound".
@bobgatzen thanks, Bob! another question :). I'm using clear single ply drum head with power dot on my piccolo snare. what would you recommend for the "fat high" sound for a rimshot player with rock drumming approach? i been using coated 2-plies drum heads but it keeps de-tuning in the middle of the song. prob because the drum itself is "low" so air keeps hitting the top head very hard. the clear drumhead gives me more good tuning and rimshot "crack" but it doesn't sound too "fat"
Hey Bob just wanted to say thanks so much for your videos, they've really really helped me out - the thing about tuning the opposite lug to change the tone especially solved a mystery that was really holding me back!
@judaxsify The snare wires control the balance between the drums sound (tom tom) to the amount of snare sound. The more snare wires, and width creates the overall of the drum. No better or worse... personal choice. For instance I like 16-20 wire snare formats...again personal choice... you need to experiment, you'll know instantly what works best for you.
Hey bob, it's EZ again xD, ive been listening to alot of Rush recently, and I am in love with Neil's snare sound on the Caress of Steel album. I have 2 snare drums, one a ludwig mahogany 6x14, and the other a tama rockstar steel 5.5x14 (im pretty sure that's the size) and i was wondering how I could achieve that sound with one of the snares and if i needed to use my 42 strand or my 12 strand. It's hard for me to determine what i need to do to get that sound so that's why im asking you :D
LOVE the series of tips! I bought my first pro kit from Bobs shop On the Silas dean hwy back when I was 17. He let me try everything out and was incredibly helpful. It saddens me to think that little drum shops like that are becoming more and more scarce, especially when I think of the great times at Creative.
@Carmuinhar Ahhh, fond memories! We had a nice run with Creative. Open it in 1972 and closed it on it's anniversary day in 2002. 30 years of friendships and fun...thanks for the reminder C!
I have a black panther too (epic drum) and I find it best for metal at an A-sharp on the Rez-head and a C-Sharp on the batter head. If you want more of a clear tone then that, try messing with tighter snare wires or new heads.
@toopiddaniel Hey Daniel! I need more information to make suggestions. What heads and snares are you currently using (single/2-ply, brand heads, etc. How long have you had the snare wires on this drum?
@bobgatzen hi bob..my name is dustin, im from Indonesia..ive just purchased a mapex blackpanther retrosonic. Its a wooden shell snare, walnut to be precised..i very appreciate your tutorial about snare drum tuning..my question is, what is the effect of the snares tightness to the resonant head?is it in someway related to buzz sound?
The character id like to have from the snare is warm, and deep..not really tight tuning, cause i use it for blues music..do you have any suggestion for the tuning?
@vivaladusst Hi V...Tuning and snare tension go hand in hand. certainly a loose snare setting will encourage sympathetic snare buzz. For R & B I would experiment with this formula. Tune the snare-reso head between "A-B". Then match the pitch from the batter. Experiment with the batter head tension. Raise it in step increments...A>Bb>B>C etc. Play with each step before moving the pitch upwards. Then go back to the "A" pitch and reverse the process until u find tour "pocket".
@bobgatzen wow thanks for the advice bob..i'll give it a try..one more question if you dont mind..my snaredrum came up with some kind of polyester rope/laces for the snares, i dont know what the term, but its not a plastic strap as in usual snare drum (or in your example polyester strap)..does it have in some way an effect in how the snare drum sound??thanks
hi bob..my name is dustin, im from Indonesia..ive just purchased a mapex blackpanther retrosonic. Its a wooden shell snare, walnut to be precised..i very appreciate your tutorial about snare drum tuning..my question is, what is the effect of the snares tightness to the resonant head?is it in someway related to buzz sound?
The character id like to have from the snare is warm, and deep..not really tight tuning, cause i use it for blues music..do you have any suggestion for the tuning?
Hey bob, i just recently bought a ludwig 5 piece, 1 up, 2 down, and it came with the standard snare, im pretty sure its 5x14. I tried tuning it the other day and when i was done it really sounded bad and i couldnt figure out why. I was trying to go for a deeper kind of tone for the snare, you know like a bonham kind of feel, and i was wondering what you recommended for that kind of tuning and snare tightness. Thanks!!
@EZCreepin Tune the reso head to an "A" and the batter 1 step higher@ "B". Play the drum and then raise the batter another 1/2 step to "C". Continue the process by raising the batter 1/2 step at a time. Good luck, let me know how it works out EZ
@bobgatzen i don't know, my batter is G and my reso is C, if i see it on my tuner. I wanna snare that rockin' so if i hitted it sound 'tak tak tak' but my snare is 'trr trr trr', and the strainer was okay, in the middle and its tight. and why if i tighting one rod, the others rod is changing its pitch? its hard to get C on the batter here, i'm stuck in G :(
@samanthacadence You're tuner must be hearing OVERTONES rather than fundamental pitch. This is very common. Pitches on toms should be close together Perfect 4ths & 5th's is too much of a spread unless you after a special type of sound. Try matching batter & reso pitches as close as possible.
Hey bob. Just interested, I tuned my snare to A on the reso, and A on the batter. As the two heads are different thickness, I'm geussing the thinner head will be tuned higher. When I tune my batter to C, the drum is just choked and painful to play on at that tension. Am I right to think both heads tuned to A will work?, I've done this on every drum I've owned.
@reddieseled What type of snare drum are you using..14"? "Thinner head higher"... are you referring to the reso head which is much thinner than the batter? If so, than it makes sense that raising the reso would shorten overall sound (sustain). The a-c formula works well on large diameter drums. Less so on smaller (12,13") drums where the pitches are closer together.
@bobgatzen Well I've used 2 different maple drums, and a couple of brass and steel ones, it still works the same. I tune the batter head to A, which gives a nice stick responce and pop. I then tune the resonant side to the A you have in your video (ping!) and you get a nice open pop out of it. I've read from Pearl that you tune the snare side and reso a 5th apart.. thats a lot! They siggest tuning the batter to Ab, THEN tune the reso a 5th above. I darent go any higher than B on the reso.
@reddieseled 3rds, 4th's and 5th's are extremely useful in general. We use these intervals for melodic and tonal (chords) applications (piano, gtr,etc) This sound formula works for drums as well. However, I PREFER using the minor and major 3rds for snare drum. A > C and A > C#. Simply personal choice. Best to experiment with these intervalic settings until you discover "your pocket".
@bobgatzen So you tune your batter quite high then? I suppose on a smaller drum that would work quite well, but on a 14, anything past a B and it starts to choke out. I've found from experiment that 'A'really is the best all round pitch for the resonant head. Thanks for the help bob. regards, Nick
@reddieseled Just to add, Pearl reccomend A as the batter side, and the RESONANT a 4th or a 5th above, making it an E. If you tried to tune it the E above the A you tune yours too, I'm sure the drum would implode! However, if you hold the drum in the air and tap the head, while muting the batter, a slight hint of an E can be heard. Whats the actual pitch we're hearing? as theres a multitude of frequencies created. Nick
@aychelpaguntalan Tighten the snare strainer until it stops buzzing. If this doesn't work then try inserting a small strip of paper near each of the clips of the snare wires.
@CalTamaDrummer Got the ideas... it's time and energy that is getting in my way. I'm searching for a window of opportunity... YT is my favorite means of communication... hope to have some new stuff soon.
@crazydrummertcir Glad you wrote CD... Understood! Frankly, I wasn't in a good frame of mind and lost it... sorry about that. I was feeling down, questioning myself... "Why do I spend valuable time on this? Then the first 4 messages this morning were thanks u's and success stories.... a great reminder that it's worth the time & effort. It's important that we communicate in a positive way... a worthwhile effort that makes a difference....thanks cd.
@bobgatzen Hi, excelent video. What do you think about the drum dial? I got it, but I can't achieve the tune I want. So what do you think? Thanks, congrats!
Hi M! The drum dial will get you in the ballpark but there’s no substitute for ear training…pitch recognition and intervals. The best situation is to play a secondary instrument like piano or guitar to develop your “Tonal” skills.
Check out the “Tonal Tuning” series on the channel. I think you’ll find it helpful. Please let me know how it works out for you.
@BesSkating09 As long as your guitar is tuned to a definite pitch generated from a metronome (with pitches), piano, Melodica, etc. Every drummer should own a metronome with pitches.
@XxSharkBatexX If your really desperate you might want to pick the "DrumKey" from Tama. It will get on the right track. However, the best way to approach Tonality (pitch recognition) is to invest a portion of your time and energy into a secondary instrument. Play piano, guitar, "Melodica" etc. You can't go wrong... you'll be a better drummer for it... guaranteed!
@bobgatzen I'd rather spend my money on other things (saving up for a new ride!), but I might try playing my brother's guitar sometime. Thanks for the tip. :)
@TSGameReplays Always best to balance tension across the snare-wire array. From top to bottom...If you cutoff # 2 for best results, would be to remove # 19 (from a 20-wire array). You could easily create an experiment by cutting #2 and testing it BEFORE removing #19. This way you'll know what works best for YOU.!
@dansynnfool1995 More importantly is how you pitch the reso head. Start with an "A" pitch than move it up incrementally by 1/2 steps at a time ( A>Bb>B>C etc). Test each setting for the least amount of snare buzz. Snare tension is depends on the the individual taste of the drummer...tight, loose sound etc. It's subjective.
@robocopwads Long time ago. My inspiration for drumming did not come from an artist...I was always infatuated with the DESIGN of the drum set itself. So, it was easy for me the figure out the "Physics" of drumming. Also, I quit drums for 10 years after graduating music college... this further reinforced my "tonal" abilities. Every drummer should play a secondary, tonal instrument!! Hope this helps...happy holidays rob!
@bobgatzen this is really helpful and i love this insight. it is also encouraging because i am starting to take piano lessons with my mom (i am 21) are there any books for instructional videos that you would suggest to help me learn the "physics" and to help my "tonal" abilities? things like that. Thank you!!
@robocopwads Your on the right track... can't say enough about the benefits of playing a tonal instrument and the drums. Not much written material out there... but stay tuned for the next level of videos I'll be uploading to YT... it's about concepts, moods and moves!
@bobgatzen this is really helpful and i love this insight. it is also encouraging because i am starting to take piano lessons with my mom (i am 21) are there any books for instructional videos that you would suggest to help me learn the "physics" and to help my "tonal" abilities? things like that. Thank you!!
I have problem on tuning my snare, is that the top head must be tighter than bottom head or bottom head must be tighter than top head? or depend on sound you want? Because I want a crispy tight dry sound with edge ring sound. Any idea Mr. Bob Gatzen? Thank you!
This is a basic method for for you to explore and hopefully discover your sound.
Tune the both the batter and snare (reso) head to an “A” Pitch. Listen. Then move the batter head up in pitch by 1/2steps… Bb, B, C, C# and D. Play and listen to each of tunings. You should hear the drum’s overall sound change from a fat, non-pitched sound to a “pop/crack” with a clear pitch. This is a great way to explore your snare’s potential for sound and style.
Hey bob, I was wondering If you could help me here, every time I hit my toms or bass my snares rattle. It makes my drums sound bad, do you kno anyway to stop that
Ahhh… yes… the classic question! This is my take on it…
Detuning heads in an effort to minimize the amount of snare buzz is a TRADE-OFF. You have to ask yourself... "How much am I willing to give up in overall sound & feel to decrease snare buzz"? My philosophy is sympathetic snare buzz is part of the overall drum sound. Once you're able to embrace this type of thinking, snare buzz is not an issue but an attribute.
@DjABBlends Yes and no depending on what sound you're after. Here’s good way to explore snare sounds...
Tune both, the snare & batter heads to an "A" Then slowly tune the batter head upwards in half steps while listening closely to each 1/2 step increment. (A>Bb>B>C etc)
Listen closely to the sound of the drum shifting from a "snary" tone to a "pitchy" Tom-like tone. Choices! Just pick out your favorite tuning combination and you’re on the way to discovering your sound & feel.
Bob, I've said it before and I'll say it again. You are a fountain of knowledge for the entire world in all aspects of percussion. You are an indispensable source of information for the drumming community and I sincerely thank you for all the effort that you have gone though to make these videos because you've changed thousands of people's approaches to drumming.
@drumer671 Best to match the reso & batter head to the same "lowest possible pitch" than move the batter upwards in "smal"l increments while listening to the tone. Once you reached a limit from the batter tunings, do the opposite...raise the reso in the same fashion and listen. Every drum has a sweet spot, our job is to tune the heads in tiny increments until you hit it. Be delicate with the drum key! Hope this helps
@nad77772 Always best to tune the batter and reso no more than a step apart from each other. For example, while muffling the reso head, tune the 12" batter head to a "G" Pitch. Than tune the reso to the same pitch. Listen, than move the reso up and down 1/2 to 1 step below than above the "G" pitch. This will many variations in tone to consider.
@bobgatzen Thanks Bob, I'll keep in touch now and then. Question: i play a 14" Ayotte Drumsmith snare. It's got a perfect sound and i like it very much. But i've seen you're suggestion where you talk about snare's with die-cast hoop on the bottom and flange on top. Is this something i should try on my Ayotte?
@gerjan71 Many drummers feel the BD is the heartbeat of the kit. Frankly, I feel the snare drum as the heartbeat. There are so many options... heads, snares, hoops, and shell type. It's worth experimenting to discover your SOUND and FEEL. No one can tell you what works best for you... it's totally subjective. So experiment away!! It worth the effort...time and energy.
@martinotagliani I'm excited for ya...tonality relates to drums in a big way so sing, sing, sing. Don't be afraid to take up a secondary instrument like guitar or piano. You'll be a better drummer from it!
Thanks for these videos, Bob - very good stuff. I always struggle with getting the resonant head in tune with itself (same pitch at each lug) due to the uneven tension imposed by the snare bed. I have a 5" x 13" maple snare with eight double ended lugs and 6" x 1/8" beds (not 'extreme' beds by any means). This doesn't seem to be an issue in the video. Any thoughts / comments on this? Thanks again!
@sp3ci4lkpo Begin by tensioning the 4 t-rods adjacent to the snare beds, then work by criss-crossing the remaining t-rod locations. It's difficult to get the exact pitch generated all the t-rods. The shorter the snare bed depth/width will determine how close the pitches can be matched. Get em as close possible...nature of the beast.
@bobgatzen Thanks for the reply, Bob. I'll give that a shot and see how it goes. In fact, I just picked up two new heads for it, and new snares. I picked up an Evans G1 coated, a Hazy 300, and a Puresound 13" 16-strand snare. Never used Evans before, so I'm interested to see how they'll sound. And I've usually used 20-strand snares; I picked up the 16-strand to see if I can get less "snap" and more "tone" out of the drum. :) Thanks again for the input.
@SCRIBESCREEN Not necessarily. In general we (drummers) tune up to pitch. But when it comes to a head replacement, we over tune then de-tune. Nothing wrong using this technique on a "worn" head as well. Just be careful not to over-tension... small deliberate steps is the key!
Thanks for the info?Your Channle is ACE.Ive found most answer's to my many question's just watching your video's thanks so much for all the help you helped me more than you know?
how would you tune a piccolo snare, preferably a 13x 3 inch steel. i have hazy 300 on resonant and hd dry coated with vents on batter, but i think those are not the preferable heads on that kind of drum. im using it for rock music so i have no idea what to do with that drum.
@combo12360 I suggest a single ply batter at first. Evans PowerCenter/RD, or the G+ coated with the Hazy 300 snare. Another option is the ECS/RD batter for it’s durability and cut. I'd tune the reso between Bb- C and the batter @ C for starters. Experiment with pitches ranging from from "unison" (A>A) and then raise the batter in 1/2 step increments until you find your comfort zone.
Hope this helps... let me know how it works out for you
@bobgatzen AARRg, i knew the g plus would work but the worker at my drum shop said hd dry with vents was better, well i have to wait until the head wears out so i can try out.
@combo12360 SOUND IS SUBJECTIVE... the Genera HD -Dry is a great head as well... but more esoteric... specialized than the G+. Keep in mind that Sound and Feel is a lot like color. I like black... you like red... is one "better" than the other?
do you really have to tune a tom to a note? does it fit with music better? right now i have mine tuned to no specific note just where it sounds good and has a good resonance.
@KyleBlock2142 It's not just about the pitched nature of the sound. Tuning to a single pitch provides maximum sustain and stick response. Not mention... every drummer should do the ear training...wanna play better drums...play piano or guitar as a secondary instrument...it opens many doors to consider.
Hey Bob, My snare used to be horrible, after getting new heads, and eliminating snare buzz and watching this, it sounds great, but I'm thinking of a new snare head from evans, i have the emperor x by remo and it just kills the sound, what do you reccomend? I like a good crack and i play hard rock and a little metal, let me know what you think. =]
@voltronthegreat Cool....that's great news! I'd experiment with the ECS-RD or the Onyx batter...these are 2 ply heads...if you prefer a single ply head I suggest the new Powercenter. Don't forget to renew the reso head with a Hazy 300. Please let me know how it works out
@bobgatzen I tried out the evans genera hd dry and LOVED IT! I have never heard a head like that from remo or anything, I still like remo alot, but i'm gonna get all evans heads =], thanks for everything bob, happy drumming.
Hi Bob, big fan of your videos. I was wondering if you would have the full name of the metronome and tuner. I think it's a great idea, and I am looking to buy one.
@Xx1GuitarGodxX Thanks Paul! I use the Planet Waves Metronome...it's loaded with all sorts of goodies. If your on a budget the Korg MA-30 is very small, well designed.
and a Remo coated Ambassador on the bottom. You most likely have experience with tuning 18" floor toms, which is why I wanted to ask you. What pitch should i be looking for when I'm tuning the drum. I am a firm believer with Medium tension batter and high tension resonant. I need your help Bob!
@Movienevermade Begin by isolating the resonant head (flip drum onto the batter side) Tune the reso head up until your hear a clear pitch and resonance. Flip the drum over and repeat the process on the batter. Once the heads are at the lowest possible pitch you can experiment by moving the batter up in small 1/2 step increments. Than the reso. until you find the drum's sweet spots.
Hey Bob, I have watched your videos several times. They are incredibly helpful, easy to learn from. You're very skilled at explaining the science and fundamentals of tuning. I'm in a bit of a predicament at the moment. My kit is a mixture of 3 Ludwig early 70's 3 ply drums; 14 x 28, 12 x 15, 16 x 18 and a brand new 402 supraphonic.
My problem is the 16 x 18, I just can't seem to find the sweet spot for tuning it. The heads I'm using are Remo coated Emperor for the batter, (continue to next post)
@prodrumtips Hey Bob! Youve helped me tune my toms and my bass drum and they sound beautiful thanks to your help. I need some help with my snare. It sounds too articulate, the snares dominate the sound of the drum. Ive tried so many different combinations with the tentions of the heads and wires but it is the same result! I just want to know how to get LESS snare and more tone, bite and attack. Im a fan of overtones, so that is not a problem. Im desprite Bob...DESPRITE!!!!
@RavenCurrency Your timing is impeccable...the simple answer is to check out the latest video on my channel... "SnareWare" A Revolutionary Snare-Wire Design. The new "Custom Pro" snares are what your after and they were just released to the public.
@jubalate The Emperor benhaves like an Evans G-2 coated...no dempening / sound control techniques. I suggest trying the Evans Powercenetr-RD (single ply) or the ECS-RD (2-ply heads.
@EvangelicArtist1 try "rtom smile moongel". works awesome on all drum heads, even the bass drum. and its also great for experimenting with your cymbals ;)
Well, I got some EC2 tom heads as you suggested and I can just say I LOVE 'em! I figured I might as well try my luck with Evans snare heads, and I have a feeling I won't be disappointed! :)
Now, what Evans snare heads would be the parallel to Remo's Coated Emperors?
What heads would you recommend for that classic, rich, poppy rock sound?
What heads would be good sounding in all genres, from D'n'B to rock, funk, and jazz?
@KonstantinUb The G-1 or G+ coated will fit the bill. The G+ utilizes a 12 mil film for more durability. Personally, my all-around fave is the the Powercenter-RD. Just muffling & durability.
Pitching the reso to an "A" provides good starting point for both batter and snare-wire response. Initially, pitching both heads to an "A" , than raising the pitch of the snare batter will offer many different sound qualities to consider. It's important that you understand that SOUND IS SUBJECTIVE... if it sounds good to YOU... it's a good sound.
bobgatzen 1 week ago
Well, I'd never answer Bob back, but to me it sounds like the C Sharp is not higher than the A. It's lower than the A. But this is also quiet Ok, because to me a snare sounds better when the batter is lower than the reso. Just like the toms.
voodoovibes007 1 week ago
I suggest trying the Evans combo....Powercenter-RD with the hazy 300 reso head. This combo offers a wide range of tunings and very good durability. It's a classic combination.
bobgatzen 1 month ago
genious you sir are Master :) love your vids
dreamtheaterpantera 1 month ago
@dreamtheaterpantera Don't know about "master" maybe "helper" just trying to keep drummers drumming!
bobgatzen 1 month ago
@dreamtheaterpantera Forgot to SAY...THANK YOU d!
bobgatzen 1 month ago
thanks for vid, Bob! it gave a different direction and picture. for some reason I've been using tuning for such a long time where I tuned snare side head pretty light and tighten batter head the regular way. what do you think about this? i know it sounds crazy but it gives me lot more "snares" for some reason. anyway, what would you recommend?
sunnylee84 1 month ago
@sunnylee84 The "A" pitch is a middle road for the snare-reso head. Generally, tuning below the "A" pitch will suggest less definition in overall snare sound. On the other hand, tension above will encourage snare buzz. Bottom line... SOUND & FEEL is subjective. I suggest you tune it to the "A" and experiment with a wide variety of pitches from the batter. All that matters is..."If it sounds good to YOU... it's a good sound".
bobgatzen 1 month ago
@bobgatzen thanks, Bob! another question :). I'm using clear single ply drum head with power dot on my piccolo snare. what would you recommend for the "fat high" sound for a rimshot player with rock drumming approach? i been using coated 2-plies drum heads but it keeps de-tuning in the middle of the song. prob because the drum itself is "low" so air keeps hitting the top head very hard. the clear drumhead gives me more good tuning and rimshot "crack" but it doesn't sound too "fat"
sunnylee84 1 month ago
This helped me a lot bob. Me n my snare often disagree. Much respect! More power to u bob!
pvsteodoro 2 months ago
@pvsteodoro That's great news on this cold rainy day...BIG thanks back P!
bobgatzen 2 months ago
Bob, you are the definition of cool. You just happen to have talent too. :D
Eiderwine 3 months ago
@Eiderwine you're too kind...BIG thanks for the kudos my drum friend!
bobgatzen 3 months ago
Hey Bob just wanted to say thanks so much for your videos, they've really really helped me out - the thing about tuning the opposite lug to change the tone especially solved a mystery that was really holding me back!
All the best
pjftl 3 months ago
@pjftl Well thank you very much ojft. My mission is to keep drummers drumming!
bobgatzen 3 months ago
i have a question whats the difference between a 4inch snare than 6inch snare strings ? and which is better ?
judaxsify 4 months ago
@judaxsify The snare wires control the balance between the drums sound (tom tom) to the amount of snare sound. The more snare wires, and width creates the overall of the drum. No better or worse... personal choice. For instance I like 16-20 wire snare formats...again personal choice... you need to experiment, you'll know instantly what works best for you.
Good luck Jud!
bobgatzen 4 months ago
Hey bob, it's EZ again xD, ive been listening to alot of Rush recently, and I am in love with Neil's snare sound on the Caress of Steel album. I have 2 snare drums, one a ludwig mahogany 6x14, and the other a tama rockstar steel 5.5x14 (im pretty sure that's the size) and i was wondering how I could achieve that sound with one of the snares and if i needed to use my 42 strand or my 12 strand. It's hard for me to determine what i need to do to get that sound so that's why im asking you :D
EZCreepin 4 months ago
@EZCreepin Hi EZ. Send me a sample of Rush/Neil's snare sound and I'll try to get you in the ballpark. You can EM it to bon@startartscom
bobgatzen 4 months ago
LOVE the series of tips! I bought my first pro kit from Bobs shop On the Silas dean hwy back when I was 17. He let me try everything out and was incredibly helpful. It saddens me to think that little drum shops like that are becoming more and more scarce, especially when I think of the great times at Creative.
Carmuinhar 4 months ago
@Carmuinhar Ahhh, fond memories! We had a nice run with Creative. Open it in 1972 and closed it on it's anniversary day in 2002. 30 years of friendships and fun...thanks for the reminder C!
bobgatzen 4 months ago
This was so helpful!! Thanks Bob!!!
SuperXReap3r 5 months ago
Just to clarify. I mean "Clear tone" as that ring your talking about.
toopiddaniel 5 months ago
@bumi84
I have a black panther too (epic drum) and I find it best for metal at an A-sharp on the Rez-head and a C-Sharp on the batter head. If you want more of a clear tone then that, try messing with tighter snare wires or new heads.
-Daniel
toopiddaniel 5 months ago
@toopiddaniel Hey Daniel! I need more information to make suggestions. What heads and snares are you currently using (single/2-ply, brand heads, etc. How long have you had the snare wires on this drum?
bobgatzen 5 months ago
Hello Bob! What heads are those on the snare?
Happy Drumming!
DrumminGaming 6 months ago
@DrumminGaming Hi DG... they are Hazy 300 reso & Powcenter-RD Coated
bobgatzen 6 months ago
that kick drum has the port hole near the "2'oclock" position.... any reason? im curious.
RobotDrums 6 months ago
@RobotDrums No sound improvement... strictly better mic'ing position
bobgatzen 6 months ago
@bobgatzen hi bob..my name is dustin, im from Indonesia..ive just purchased a mapex blackpanther retrosonic. Its a wooden shell snare, walnut to be precised..i very appreciate your tutorial about snare drum tuning..my question is, what is the effect of the snares tightness to the resonant head?is it in someway related to buzz sound?
The character id like to have from the snare is warm, and deep..not really tight tuning, cause i use it for blues music..do you have any suggestion for the tuning?
vivaladusst 6 months ago
@vivaladusst Hi V...Tuning and snare tension go hand in hand. certainly a loose snare setting will encourage sympathetic snare buzz. For R & B I would experiment with this formula. Tune the snare-reso head between "A-B". Then match the pitch from the batter. Experiment with the batter head tension. Raise it in step increments...A>Bb>B>C etc. Play with each step before moving the pitch upwards. Then go back to the "A" pitch and reverse the process until u find tour "pocket".
bobgatzen 6 months ago
@bobgatzen wow thanks for the advice bob..i'll give it a try..one more question if you dont mind..my snaredrum came up with some kind of polyester rope/laces for the snares, i dont know what the term, but its not a plastic strap as in usual snare drum (or in your example polyester strap)..does it have in some way an effect in how the snare drum sound??thanks
vivaladusst 6 months ago
hi bob..my name is dustin, im from Indonesia..ive just purchased a mapex blackpanther retrosonic. Its a wooden shell snare, walnut to be precised..i very appreciate your tutorial about snare drum tuning..my question is, what is the effect of the snares tightness to the resonant head?is it in someway related to buzz sound?
The character id like to have from the snare is warm, and deep..not really tight tuning, cause i use it for blues music..do you have any suggestion for the tuning?
thanks :D
vivaladusst 6 months ago
2 = a Million?
zachpfeif 6 months ago
thanks! this was very helpful!
kiks1234567 6 months ago
@kiks1234567 Good to hear that kiks...thanks!
bobgatzen 6 months ago
Hey bob, i just recently bought a ludwig 5 piece, 1 up, 2 down, and it came with the standard snare, im pretty sure its 5x14. I tried tuning it the other day and when i was done it really sounded bad and i couldnt figure out why. I was trying to go for a deeper kind of tone for the snare, you know like a bonham kind of feel, and i was wondering what you recommended for that kind of tuning and snare tightness. Thanks!!
EZCreepin 6 months ago
@EZCreepin Tune the reso head to an "A" and the batter 1 step higher@ "B". Play the drum and then raise the batter another 1/2 step to "C". Continue the process by raising the batter 1/2 step at a time. Good luck, let me know how it works out EZ
bobgatzen 6 months ago
hey, do the snares make a difference in sound? if so which snare wires and strainer should i get thanks
Mirozenx 7 months ago
thank you very much, you saved me, I was going crazy
LucaCava94 7 months ago
@LucaCava94 Thanks for the good news on this rainy Saturday morning... just what the doctor subscribed!!
bobgatzen 7 months ago
@bobgatzen i don't know, my batter is G and my reso is C, if i see it on my tuner. I wanna snare that rockin' so if i hitted it sound 'tak tak tak' but my snare is 'trr trr trr', and the strainer was okay, in the middle and its tight. and why if i tighting one rod, the others rod is changing its pitch? its hard to get C on the batter here, i'm stuck in G :(
samanthacadence 7 months ago
@samanthacadence You're tuner must be hearing OVERTONES rather than fundamental pitch. This is very common. Pitches on toms should be close together Perfect 4ths & 5th's is too much of a spread unless you after a special type of sound. Try matching batter & reso pitches as close as possible.
bobgatzen 7 months ago
Hey bob. Just interested, I tuned my snare to A on the reso, and A on the batter. As the two heads are different thickness, I'm geussing the thinner head will be tuned higher. When I tune my batter to C, the drum is just choked and painful to play on at that tension. Am I right to think both heads tuned to A will work?, I've done this on every drum I've owned.
reddieseled 7 months ago
@reddieseled What type of snare drum are you using..14"? "Thinner head higher"... are you referring to the reso head which is much thinner than the batter? If so, than it makes sense that raising the reso would shorten overall sound (sustain). The a-c formula works well on large diameter drums. Less so on smaller (12,13") drums where the pitches are closer together.
bobgatzen 7 months ago
@bobgatzen Well I've used 2 different maple drums, and a couple of brass and steel ones, it still works the same. I tune the batter head to A, which gives a nice stick responce and pop. I then tune the resonant side to the A you have in your video (ping!) and you get a nice open pop out of it. I've read from Pearl that you tune the snare side and reso a 5th apart.. thats a lot! They siggest tuning the batter to Ab, THEN tune the reso a 5th above. I darent go any higher than B on the reso.
reddieseled 7 months ago
@reddieseled 3rds, 4th's and 5th's are extremely useful in general. We use these intervals for melodic and tonal (chords) applications (piano, gtr,etc) This sound formula works for drums as well. However, I PREFER using the minor and major 3rds for snare drum. A > C and A > C#. Simply personal choice. Best to experiment with these intervalic settings until you discover "your pocket".
bobgatzen 7 months ago
@bobgatzen So you tune your batter quite high then? I suppose on a smaller drum that would work quite well, but on a 14, anything past a B and it starts to choke out. I've found from experiment that 'A'really is the best all round pitch for the resonant head. Thanks for the help bob. regards, Nick
reddieseled 7 months ago
@reddieseled Just to add, Pearl reccomend A as the batter side, and the RESONANT a 4th or a 5th above, making it an E. If you tried to tune it the E above the A you tune yours too, I'm sure the drum would implode! However, if you hold the drum in the air and tap the head, while muting the batter, a slight hint of an E can be heard. Whats the actual pitch we're hearing? as theres a multitude of frequencies created. Nick
reddieseled 7 months ago
wow i never knew that drum can be set according to chords...!!!
MrTekuza 7 months ago
@bobgatzen man i wish you came to my house and tuned my whole kit for me lol jks, your video made my snare drum sound professional. thanks bob
acchuky 8 months ago
@acchuky Yeah but you wouldn't be learning how to do it yourself. Now go to YT vids and practice the tuning techniques... you can do it ac!!
bobgatzen 8 months ago
@bobgatzen thanks for the encouragement!
acchuky 8 months ago
thanks
icemanxl 8 months ago
thanks
icemanxl 8 months ago
hey bob every time i hit my snare drum it buzzes alott what do i do?
aychelpaguntalan 8 months ago
@aychelpaguntalan Tighten the snare strainer until it stops buzzing. If this doesn't work then try inserting a small strip of paper near each of the clips of the snare wires.
PaddleMaster47 7 months ago
i tune my snare to G, is it okay?
samanthacadence 8 months ago
@samanthacadence Which pitches do you use specifically for the reso and batter?
bobgatzen 8 months ago
when are you making more videos bob? your videos helped my tuning soooo much, and with the position of my snares. Caleb
CalTamaDrummer 9 months ago
@CalTamaDrummer Got the ideas... it's time and energy that is getting in my way. I'm searching for a window of opportunity... YT is my favorite means of communication... hope to have some new stuff soon.
bobgatzen 9 months ago
he may seem dumb but he knows what he is doing except with the snare chain
crazydrummertcir 9 months ago
@crazydrummertcir DUMB? 14 million views versus 678...Com'n Tony...give me a break!
bobgatzen 9 months ago
@bobgatzen note i said you know what your doing lol. the whole dumb thing was kinda of a joke lol. i mean you are good bob don't get me wrong.
crazydrummertcir 9 months ago
@crazydrummertcir Glad you wrote CD... Understood! Frankly, I wasn't in a good frame of mind and lost it... sorry about that. I was feeling down, questioning myself... "Why do I spend valuable time on this? Then the first 4 messages this morning were thanks u's and success stories.... a great reminder that it's worth the time & effort. It's important that we communicate in a positive way... a worthwhile effort that makes a difference....thanks cd.
bobgatzen 9 months ago
NEVER DO THAT TO YOUR SNARECARPED!!!
Independentschlueder 9 months ago
@bobgatzen Hi, excelent video. What do you think about the drum dial? I got it, but I can't achieve the tune I want. So what do you think? Thanks, congrats!
Metfull 10 months ago
@Metfull
Hi M! The drum dial will get you in the ballpark but there’s no substitute for ear training…pitch recognition and intervals. The best situation is to play a secondary instrument like piano or guitar to develop your “Tonal” skills.
Check out the “Tonal Tuning” series on the channel. I think you’ll find it helpful. Please let me know how it works out for you.
bobgatzen 10 months ago
SWAT - Snare Wire Arrestor & Tuner Drum Muffler Dampener!
The super easy way of tuning your snare.
Lazetar 1 year ago
can i play the strings from my guitar to tune it or for pitch?
BesSkating09 1 year ago
@BesSkating09 As long as your guitar is tuned to a definite pitch generated from a metronome (with pitches), piano, Melodica, etc. Every drummer should own a metronome with pitches.
bobgatzen 1 year ago 2
@bobgatzen thank man.yea i own a metronome.:D
BesSkating09 1 year ago
@BesSkating09 Than your all set... as long as it provides pitched tones. Happy New Year bes!
bobgatzen 1 year ago
@bobgatzen same to u.sorry im late :/
BesSkating09 1 year ago
How do you tune your drums when you're extremely tonedeaf? (I didn't become a drummer for no reason...) Cheers!
XxSharkBatexX 1 year ago
@XxSharkBatexX If your really desperate you might want to pick the "DrumKey" from Tama. It will get on the right track. However, the best way to approach Tonality (pitch recognition) is to invest a portion of your time and energy into a secondary instrument. Play piano, guitar, "Melodica" etc. You can't go wrong... you'll be a better drummer for it... guaranteed!
bobgatzen 1 year ago
@bobgatzen I'd rather spend my money on other things (saving up for a new ride!), but I might try playing my brother's guitar sometime. Thanks for the tip. :)
XxSharkBatexX 1 year ago
@XxSharkBatexX My pleasure ...happy to help out
bobgatzen 1 year ago
if the one snare is "Bonked" then cant i just cut out that one wire?
TSGameReplays 1 year ago
@TSGameReplays Always best to balance tension across the snare-wire array. From top to bottom...If you cutoff # 2 for best results, would be to remove # 19 (from a 20-wire array). You could easily create an experiment by cutting #2 and testing it BEFORE removing #19. This way you'll know what works best for YOU.!
bobgatzen 1 year ago
@bobgatzen how tight should i tighten my snare wires. i dont like the buzz.
dansynnfool1995 1 year ago
@dansynnfool1995 More importantly is how you pitch the reso head. Start with an "A" pitch than move it up incrementally by 1/2 steps at a time ( A>Bb>B>C etc). Test each setting for the least amount of snare buzz. Snare tension is depends on the the individual taste of the drummer...tight, loose sound etc. It's subjective.
Hope this helps
Bob
bobgatzen 1 year ago
how long did it take to get good at correctly tuning your snare drum?
i have been trying for a while now and cant seem to get it right...and its pretty discouraging :(
robocopwads 1 year ago
@robocopwads Long time ago. My inspiration for drumming did not come from an artist...I was always infatuated with the DESIGN of the drum set itself. So, it was easy for me the figure out the "Physics" of drumming. Also, I quit drums for 10 years after graduating music college... this further reinforced my "tonal" abilities. Every drummer should play a secondary, tonal instrument!! Hope this helps...happy holidays rob!
bobgatzen 1 year ago
@bobgatzen this is really helpful and i love this insight. it is also encouraging because i am starting to take piano lessons with my mom (i am 21) are there any books for instructional videos that you would suggest to help me learn the "physics" and to help my "tonal" abilities? things like that. Thank you!!
robocopwads 1 year ago
@robocopwads Your on the right track... can't say enough about the benefits of playing a tonal instrument and the drums. Not much written material out there... but stay tuned for the next level of videos I'll be uploading to YT... it's about concepts, moods and moves!
bobgatzen 1 year ago
@bobgatzen this is really helpful and i love this insight. it is also encouraging because i am starting to take piano lessons with my mom (i am 21) are there any books for instructional videos that you would suggest to help me learn the "physics" and to help my "tonal" abilities? things like that. Thank you!!
robocopwads 1 year ago
I have problem on tuning my snare, is that the top head must be tighter than bottom head or bottom head must be tighter than top head? or depend on sound you want? Because I want a crispy tight dry sound with edge ring sound. Any idea Mr. Bob Gatzen? Thank you!
Danny19921125 1 year ago
@Danny19921125
This is a basic method for for you to explore and hopefully discover your sound.
Tune the both the batter and snare (reso) head to an “A” Pitch. Listen. Then move the batter head up in pitch by 1/2steps… Bb, B, C, C# and D. Play and listen to each of tunings. You should hear the drum’s overall sound change from a fat, non-pitched sound to a “pop/crack” with a clear pitch. This is a great way to explore your snare’s potential for sound and style.
bobgatzen 1 year ago
Hey bob, I was wondering If you could help me here, every time I hit my toms or bass my snares rattle. It makes my drums sound bad, do you kno anyway to stop that
MyFilmsProduction 1 year ago
@MyFilmsProduction
Ahhh… yes… the classic question! This is my take on it…
Detuning heads in an effort to minimize the amount of snare buzz is a TRADE-OFF. You have to ask yourself... "How much am I willing to give up in overall sound & feel to decrease snare buzz"? My philosophy is sympathetic snare buzz is part of the overall drum sound. Once you're able to embrace this type of thinking, snare buzz is not an issue but an attribute.
bobgatzen 1 year ago
how much would i have to pay you to tune my kit for me?
biocideband 1 year ago
@biocideband Wow... that's an interesting notion. Check the "Tonal Tuning" series... for nothing....zero...nada!!! Let me know if it helps out b.
bobgatzen 1 year ago
@bobgatzen ohhh yeah ive watched most of them. Your tips really helped me out! thanks
biocideband 1 year ago
@biocideband That's great news... especially on my favorite day of the week...FRIDAY!!! Thanks b
bobgatzen 1 year ago
the tension for the bottom head is tuned a bit lower than the tension on the top head??
DjABBlends 1 year ago
@DjABBlends Yes and no depending on what sound you're after. Here’s good way to explore snare sounds...
Tune both, the snare & batter heads to an "A" Then slowly tune the batter head upwards in half steps while listening closely to each 1/2 step increment. (A>Bb>B>C etc)
Listen closely to the sound of the drum shifting from a "snary" tone to a "pitchy" Tom-like tone. Choices! Just pick out your favorite tuning combination and you’re on the way to discovering your sound & feel.
bobgatzen 1 year ago
Bob, I've said it before and I'll say it again. You are a fountain of knowledge for the entire world in all aspects of percussion. You are an indispensable source of information for the drumming community and I sincerely thank you for all the effort that you have gone though to make these videos because you've changed thousands of people's approaches to drumming.
Excellence at it's best.
Thanks,
Adam
adsy69 1 year ago
@adsy69 WOW! I'm speechless... for me.. "sharing" is a 2-way street where everyone that travels it...wins!! BIG thanks Adam...really appreciate it!
Happy Thanksgiving,
Bob
bobgatzen 1 year ago
don't know how to tell when the drum is choked when i tune it high how would i tune it with guitar tuner
drumer671 1 year ago
@drumer671 Best to match the reso & batter head to the same "lowest possible pitch" than move the batter upwards in "smal"l increments while listening to the tone. Once you reached a limit from the batter tunings, do the opposite...raise the reso in the same fashion and listen. Every drum has a sweet spot, our job is to tune the heads in tiny increments until you hit it. Be delicate with the drum key! Hope this helps
bobgatzen 1 year ago
@bobgatzen thank you for the tips
drumer671 1 year ago
@drumer671 My pleasure...let's stay in touch
bobgatzen 1 year ago
i am having hard time tuning the chad smith snare
drumer671 1 year ago
@drumer671 need more info... what is specifically the problem d?
bobgatzen 1 year ago
I'm going to try this on my brass piccolo snare. Next to the bass drum, the snare is the one I have the most difficulty with.
Guitarfool5931 1 year ago
@Guitarfool5931 Cool... let is know how your testing works out
bobgatzen 1 year ago
honestly it sounds the same xD
tex1682 1 year ago
I always have trouble with the resonant head, how to know what to tune it to
nad77772 1 year ago
@nad77772 Always best to tune the batter and reso no more than a step apart from each other. For example, while muffling the reso head, tune the 12" batter head to a "G" Pitch. Than tune the reso to the same pitch. Listen, than move the reso up and down 1/2 to 1 step below than above the "G" pitch. This will many variations in tone to consider.
bobgatzen 1 year ago
Thank you for your very useful video, amongst the crap that floats around Youtube *cough* Expertvillage *cough*
SwitchplayUK 1 year ago
@SwitchplayUK My pleasure...all for one, one for all!
bobgatzen 1 year ago
@SwitchplayUK Do you know how true that is! I hate expert village, Have you seen their thing on hitting cymbals? Its ridiculous!!!!
BaneofBroon 1 year ago
man i need this guy to be my roadie lol
SMG59 1 year ago
@SMG59 MONEY TALKS!!! lol...LOL!!!
bobgatzen 1 year ago
@tubesalamander This is a drum I designed for Noble & Cooley... Aluminum Alloy- 8 lug- 4.5 x14. very accurate...one of my faves
bobgatzen 1 year ago
@bobgatzen Hi Bob, I've got to say, you know you're drums! I've learned a hell of a lot about tuning my drums. Thanks a lot! Keep up the good work...
gerjan71 1 year ago
@gerjan71 That's great to hear g! You keep up the good work too. let's stay in touch
Bob
bobgatzen 1 year ago
@bobgatzen Thanks Bob, I'll keep in touch now and then. Question: i play a 14" Ayotte Drumsmith snare. It's got a perfect sound and i like it very much. But i've seen you're suggestion where you talk about snare's with die-cast hoop on the bottom and flange on top. Is this something i should try on my Ayotte?
Greetings from Holland
gerjan71 1 year ago
@gerjan71 Many drummers feel the BD is the heartbeat of the kit. Frankly, I feel the snare drum as the heartbeat. There are so many options... heads, snares, hoops, and shell type. It's worth experimenting to discover your SOUND and FEEL. No one can tell you what works best for you... it's totally subjective. So experiment away!! It worth the effort...time and energy.
bobgatzen 1 year ago
hey bob, you've tuned this snare in A -bottom head- and the top head in C#,
so the final result is a C# snare sound?
Im asking this because i've seen your tonal tuning videos, and i want to tune my snare in to C. So in what pitch should the 2 drumheads be?
thanks a lot love your vids
martinotagliani 1 year ago
@martinotagliani Yes... just lower the C# to c should do the trick. Let me know jow it works out
Bob
bobgatzen 1 year ago
@bobgatzen It worked, it sounds amazing!!
now im doing my toms :D
martinotagliani 1 year ago
@martinotagliani I'm excited for ya...tonality relates to drums in a big way so sing, sing, sing. Don't be afraid to take up a secondary instrument like guitar or piano. You'll be a better drummer from it!
bobgatzen 1 year ago
Thanks for these videos, Bob - very good stuff. I always struggle with getting the resonant head in tune with itself (same pitch at each lug) due to the uneven tension imposed by the snare bed. I have a 5" x 13" maple snare with eight double ended lugs and 6" x 1/8" beds (not 'extreme' beds by any means). This doesn't seem to be an issue in the video. Any thoughts / comments on this? Thanks again!
sp3ci4lkpo 1 year ago
@sp3ci4lkpo Begin by tensioning the 4 t-rods adjacent to the snare beds, then work by criss-crossing the remaining t-rod locations. It's difficult to get the exact pitch generated all the t-rods. The shorter the snare bed depth/width will determine how close the pitches can be matched. Get em as close possible...nature of the beast.
Hope this helps
Bob
bobgatzen 1 year ago
@bobgatzen Thanks for the reply, Bob. I'll give that a shot and see how it goes. In fact, I just picked up two new heads for it, and new snares. I picked up an Evans G1 coated, a Hazy 300, and a Puresound 13" 16-strand snare. Never used Evans before, so I'm interested to see how they'll sound. And I've usually used 20-strand snares; I picked up the 16-strand to see if I can get less "snap" and more "tone" out of the drum. :) Thanks again for the input.
sp3ci4lkpo 1 year ago
dose the same rule apply to drums as a guitar? that would be always tune up to the pitch never down I wounder if thats right...
SCRIBESCREEN 1 year ago
@SCRIBESCREEN Not necessarily. In general we (drummers) tune up to pitch. But when it comes to a head replacement, we over tune then de-tune. Nothing wrong using this technique on a "worn" head as well. Just be careful not to over-tension... small deliberate steps is the key!
bobgatzen 1 year ago
@bobgatzen
Thanks for the info?Your Channle is ACE.Ive found most answer's to my many question's just watching your video's thanks so much for all the help you helped me more than you know?
SCRIBESCREEN 1 year ago
@SCRIBESCREEN Wow! that's great hear... it's messages like yours that keep me inspired and motivated & I thank for that S!
bobgatzen 1 year ago
@SCRIBESCREEN Yes, I believe so... a bit of over-tensioning seats botha drum head and a quitar string...careful not to "over-tension" though
bobgatzen 1 year ago
Gatzen is to drum tuning as Einstein is to science.
That is all.
fuzydoo 1 year ago
@fuzydoo Wow...now that's an honor! Einstein is my fave read and a huge inspiration to me. BIG thanks my friend!
bobgatzen 1 year ago
Just get SWAT - Snare Wire Arrestor & Tuner Drum Muffler Dampener at eBay makes your snare a power snare and sound great!
Lazetar 1 year ago
how would you tune a piccolo snare, preferably a 13x 3 inch steel. i have hazy 300 on resonant and hd dry coated with vents on batter, but i think those are not the preferable heads on that kind of drum. im using it for rock music so i have no idea what to do with that drum.
combo12360 1 year ago
@combo12360 I suggest a single ply batter at first. Evans PowerCenter/RD, or the G+ coated with the Hazy 300 snare. Another option is the ECS/RD batter for it’s durability and cut. I'd tune the reso between Bb- C and the batter @ C for starters. Experiment with pitches ranging from from "unison" (A>A) and then raise the batter in 1/2 step increments until you find your comfort zone.
Hope this helps... let me know how it works out for you
bobgatzen 1 year ago
@bobgatzen AARRg, i knew the g plus would work but the worker at my drum shop said hd dry with vents was better, well i have to wait until the head wears out so i can try out.
combo12360 1 year ago
@combo12360 SOUND IS SUBJECTIVE... the Genera HD -Dry is a great head as well... but more esoteric... specialized than the G+. Keep in mind that Sound and Feel is a lot like color. I like black... you like red... is one "better" than the other?
bobgatzen 1 year ago
@aatefmagic Always a pleasure to help out... you're very welcome!
bobgatzen 1 year ago
do you really have to tune a tom to a note? does it fit with music better? right now i have mine tuned to no specific note just where it sounds good and has a good resonance.
KyleBlock2142 1 year ago
@KyleBlock2142 It's not just about the pitched nature of the sound. Tuning to a single pitch provides maximum sustain and stick response. Not mention... every drummer should do the ear training...wanna play better drums...play piano or guitar as a secondary instrument...it opens many doors to consider.
bobgatzen 1 year ago
Hey Bob, My snare used to be horrible, after getting new heads, and eliminating snare buzz and watching this, it sounds great, but I'm thinking of a new snare head from evans, i have the emperor x by remo and it just kills the sound, what do you reccomend? I like a good crack and i play hard rock and a little metal, let me know what you think. =]
voltronthegreat 1 year ago
@voltronthegreat Cool....that's great news! I'd experiment with the ECS-RD or the Onyx batter...these are 2 ply heads...if you prefer a single ply head I suggest the new Powercenter. Don't forget to renew the reso head with a Hazy 300. Please let me know how it works out
bobgatzen 1 year ago
@bobgatzen I tried out the evans genera hd dry and LOVED IT! I have never heard a head like that from remo or anything, I still like remo alot, but i'm gonna get all evans heads =], thanks for everything bob, happy drumming.
voltronthegreat 1 year ago
@voltronthegreat Thanks v... I'll let the Evans team know!
bobgatzen 1 year ago
@voltronthegreat One more thing...gotta check out the new Puresound ."Custom Pro" snares... revolutionary design!
bobgatzen 1 year ago
Hi Bob, big fan of your videos. I was wondering if you would have the full name of the metronome and tuner. I think it's a great idea, and I am looking to buy one.
Thanks. Paul - Keep Rockin'!
Xx1GuitarGodxX 1 year ago
@Xx1GuitarGodxX Thanks Paul! I use the Planet Waves Metronome...it's loaded with all sorts of goodies. If your on a budget the Korg MA-30 is very small, well designed.
Hope this helps
Bob
bobgatzen 1 year ago
and a Remo coated Ambassador on the bottom. You most likely have experience with tuning 18" floor toms, which is why I wanted to ask you. What pitch should i be looking for when I'm tuning the drum. I am a firm believer with Medium tension batter and high tension resonant. I need your help Bob!
Thanks!
Movienevermade 1 year ago
@Movienevermade Begin by isolating the resonant head (flip drum onto the batter side) Tune the reso head up until your hear a clear pitch and resonance. Flip the drum over and repeat the process on the batter. Once the heads are at the lowest possible pitch you can experiment by moving the batter up in small 1/2 step increments. Than the reso. until you find the drum's sweet spots.
Hope this helps,
Bob
bobgatzen 1 year ago
@bobgatzen
Thanks a lot bob!
Movienevermade 1 year ago
Hey Bob, I have watched your videos several times. They are incredibly helpful, easy to learn from. You're very skilled at explaining the science and fundamentals of tuning. I'm in a bit of a predicament at the moment. My kit is a mixture of 3 Ludwig early 70's 3 ply drums; 14 x 28, 12 x 15, 16 x 18 and a brand new 402 supraphonic.
My problem is the 16 x 18, I just can't seem to find the sweet spot for tuning it. The heads I'm using are Remo coated Emperor for the batter, (continue to next post)
Movienevermade 1 year ago
@prodrumtips Hey Bob! Youve helped me tune my toms and my bass drum and they sound beautiful thanks to your help. I need some help with my snare. It sounds too articulate, the snares dominate the sound of the drum. Ive tried so many different combinations with the tentions of the heads and wires but it is the same result! I just want to know how to get LESS snare and more tone, bite and attack. Im a fan of overtones, so that is not a problem. Im desprite Bob...DESPRITE!!!!
RavenCurrency 1 year ago
@RavenCurrency Your timing is impeccable...the simple answer is to check out the latest video on my channel... "SnareWare" A Revolutionary Snare-Wire Design. The new "Custom Pro" snares are what your after and they were just released to the public.
bobgatzen 1 year ago
I have a yamaha oak snare with a remo emperor batter and a pearl ss resonant and its ringing like crazy. any tips how to get rid of the ring?
jubalate 1 year ago
@jubalate The Emperor benhaves like an Evans G-2 coated...no dempening / sound control techniques. I suggest trying the Evans Powercenetr-RD (single ply) or the ECS-RD (2-ply heads.
bobgatzen 1 year ago
@bobgatzen
I have an Evans EC2, should I use that?
jubalate 1 year ago
@jubalate Are you using the EC2 on the the snare drum or toms? Clear or coated?
bobgatzen 1 year ago
@bobgatzen
snare, coated. i did hear something about those only being good for toms.
jubalate 1 year ago
@jubalate Not sure what you mean by "only good for toms" Are you regerring to EC2 coated heads?
bobgatzen 1 year ago
@bobgatzen yeah, Im actually looking into getting a remo coated emperor x
jubalate 1 year ago
@jubalate Popular head, has proven itself..good choice
bobgatzen 1 year ago
@bobgatzen
thanks. Keep on drumming m8
jubalate 1 year ago
@jubalate You're welcome...my pleasure!
bobgatzen 1 year ago
@bobgatzen
I juat got back from the guitar center, they had no emperor x, so I came back with............ a POWERSTROKE!
jubalate 1 year ago
@jubalate Cool....let us know how like it!
bobgatzen 1 year ago
hey bob, is it possible to reduce the ring coming from the snare? i really have this god awful ring cming from my snare:(
EvangelicArtist1 1 year ago
@EvangelicArtist1 I suggest picking up a set of Eavns Mini=Mad Mufflers. Very adjustable, easy to use.
Bob
bobgatzen 1 year ago
@EvangelicArtist1 try "rtom smile moongel". works awesome on all drum heads, even the bass drum. and its also great for experimenting with your cymbals ;)
TomLovis 1 year ago
Hello again, Bob! Great job, as always!
Well, I got some EC2 tom heads as you suggested and I can just say I LOVE 'em! I figured I might as well try my luck with Evans snare heads, and I have a feeling I won't be disappointed! :)
Now, what Evans snare heads would be the parallel to Remo's Coated Emperors?
What heads would you recommend for that classic, rich, poppy rock sound?
What heads would be good sounding in all genres, from D'n'B to rock, funk, and jazz?
Thanks in advance! -KonstantinUb
KonstantinUb 1 year ago
@KonstantinUb That's great news! Here ya go...
Emperor replacement - The Evans G-2 coated or clear
Snare drum- Powercenter-rd with the hazy 300
BD- EMAD-2 or Emad Onyx batter - EMAD-reso / EQ3 reso
Toms- G-2 option...ONYX batters
Please et me how it works out for you
Bob
bobgatzen 1 year ago
@bobgatzen Thanks a lot, Bob! A friend of mine has EMADs, I'll make sure to check 'em out!
One more question: what snare head would be the replacement to Remo's Coated Ambassadors?
-KonstantinUb
KonstantinUb 1 year ago
@KonstantinUb The G-1 or G+ coated will fit the bill. The G+ utilizes a 12 mil film for more durability. Personally, my all-around fave is the the Powercenter-RD. Just muffling & durability.
bobgatzen 1 year ago
@bobgatzen I think I'll go with the Power Center Reverse Dot as you suggested! Thanks! :)
KonstantinUb 1 year ago