i LOVE how Dr. Michael Stone goes into the criminal's past and explains how their past influenced their crimes. I am going to study Forensic Psychology & he definitely played a big role in that because I idolize him so much.
There is an online article called "Homosexual couples and domestic violence" and it shows that gay couples are more likely to be violent than are straight couples!
@Bestmanme08 Obama knew somebody cured of being gay! Call 1-888-264-0877 for a genuine homosexual cure! The book Obam:Why Black America Should Have Doubts shows this of Obama! And teh book Ted Kennedy: The Early Years shows Obama got Kennedy help in getting elected in 2008! Both great books at amazon!
@Bestmanme08 I've known "ex-gays" too -- some of the most frightened, deeply unhappy people I've ever met. The "therapy" they undergo is borderline torture, and doesn't even work. You can't change who you are.
@streetswell LOL. Ex-gays. They're called bisexuals...they were never gay to begin with. Gays just need to get over it. Messing around with the same sex doesn't make someone gay, and the gay establishment has oppressed bisexuals all under the guise of being for them. This dude is your typical lying, fantasy loving homosexual, but a hero because so many in the gay establishment deserve exactly this dude did to that filthy, slave-driving, tacky fashion designer Versace.
@Bestmanme08 oh you believe everything you read? You know nothing of statistics either.. First of all MANY MANY incidents of DV in straight couples go unreported because women are too afraid of the reprecussions. Usually gets reported when someone else notices and makes a report. Your comments are "straight ignorant"! Pun intended!!!
No sexual component to Cunanan. That's why he is a spree killer. A spree killer is not better or worse than a serial killer. Versace was a serial bad dresser, thats about it.
Just like good, evil is a concept that belongs in morality and//or religion. Not in forensic, psychological or psychiatric science. The scale and the whole pseudo-scientific setting of the show is merely a flimsy excuse to serve up sensational, horryfing "true stories" about crimes that shook the public. I find these stories and the events they are about fascinating, but Stone and his bullcrap scale are travesties of a psychiatrist and of the methods of pshychiatric evaluation.
@pyschokiller2 By now Ramirez is probably hip to it that getting sodomized by Bubba on a daily basis also comes with the territory. He'll wish he was in Disneyland.
@1955porsche this guy Andrew Cunanan was set up and blamed for all the unresolved murders that happened in 1997, there is not way in heck someone can move from one state to another in such a killing spread, serial killers do not kill in such a patern
Oh, please! He had been a pathological liar since gradeschool, promiscuous since Junior High, a prostitute since college....never held a job...was a practicing prostitute and deeply into extreme Sadomasochism....AND HE DID LOTS AND LOTS OF DRUGS!!!!!!!! All anyone needs as an explanation is the drugs. This is how people often eventually act when they do drugs.
There's a similiar Filipino with the same M.O. as Andrew, and that is Delfin J Montano - google "the not so talented D J Montano" he's going to have the same ending as Cunanan" scary !!!!!!
Wow! Thanks, 90210lalaland! I have that blog open in another window, right now. It's not making much sense. Reminds me of my first few weeks of Business Law...impenetrable, until you assemble all the fragmented parts. But this will be fun to figure out.
So true, mowriter, there are Illegals running around America killing just as frequently...and often for far longer periods...
I think the Angel Resendiz murder trail is an excellent example. He committed nine murders we know of. A lot of interesting stuff has been written about that one.
@mowriter so 5 kills in 3 months aint a spree?, since loads of serial killers took months and months of preparation for their kills, i consider 5 in 3 months a spree, and not just because he killed versace, but based on different killers, this is a spree
There is a disproportinate number who are, but of course that does not make all serial killers homosexuals anymore than it makes all homosexuals hairdressers (stereotypes). And I do not believe the ones who are homosexual resort to murder because of that, it is usually due to an abusive, loveless childhood in most cases.
lol, just because you guys are gay doesn't mean you should stick together with a guy who happened to be gay and then killed some people. That is so wrong!
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har har 3 goat country lol
Let's face it - - gayness makes people angry, lots of gay angry people. It was his gayism that made him kill. The only reason this guy became famous is because he killed someone famous. Me thinks the gangsters in this city have probably killed twice as many as this guy and I don't see them on youtube.
Being gay doesn't make people angry. How you even came to that conclusion I will never know. Maybe its because you're homophobic. I guess you are saying that the BTK Killer and other murders like him aren't famous cause they didn't kill anybody famous. And another thing. Who the f**k cares about "gangsters" in this city?
I just love how people throw the term homophobic around so much. I think you find that people are not homo-phobic, afraid of homosexuals, so much as they just disagree or dislike the lifestyle, i.e.bigotry. There is a difference. You may not like being criticized, but that term is being used way, way out of context. I am certainly not 'phobic' about gays, I do not personally like that lifestyle, but I say each to his own.
BRO, i know how you feel man. its not like im scared of gay peoples or anything, i just don't apperiate gettting hit on at the bar by another dude. srry for grammer im not english
Damn right. I don't want to be approached by them in a bar or club either. I can say that that it has only happened twice, but as soon as I told them I was not gay they backed the hell off immediately with apologies, so at least they left me alone.
I usually agree with Stone's placement of killers, but he missed Lee Miglin's murder. He was systematically tortured to death by Cunanan, who precisely imitated the actions in a twisted porn film. Therefore, Cunanan should be at level 22.
To those insulting Cunanan because he was gay, are you saying it would have been less evil if Miglin had been a woman? I'd also remind you of even worse hetero killers like David Parker Ray, Gary Heidnik, Dr. Holmes and BTK.
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yes and i will repeat it str8 to your face...he is not american...he doesnt have american blood on his vains...he maybe have american passport of listed as american in his birth certificate but hey DYKE YOU CAN NEVER CHANGE THA FACT THAT HE IS OR WAS NOT AN AMERICAN,... dont bother to comment on this dyke...continue your obsession cunanan... bye!
we r all trapeted in a cage with urges humen souls call serial killers . what are we named if we think but dont act. just image krazy thoughts,but dont act upon them?- kike yanez-
Good point. If you add up all the time of evil deeds in their lives it would probably be a very very small percentage. I think we all have evil impulses at times. Its interesting to see what drives people over the edge to the wildside.
This is the shoddiest account of Cunanan's crimes I've seen. Some of the information presented here was false or misleading. It sounds like they flat-out made up some "facts" to make the story fit into a neat package. For a more accurate (and humanizing) account of Cunanan and his murder spree, watch "Fashion Victim," starring Jonathon Trent. (Not out on DVD, but a preview on this site links to other sites where you can watch it free.)
look fag, his father is a filipino while his mom is a italian....they just become american citrizens you have to deal with it coz thats the thruth...am i wrong Dyke? now out pf my way! go back your mothers cunt!
Everyone is the states is from blood lines of other countries you uneducated idiot. Are you telling me the only American serial killers have to be Native Americans. Are you proud because your a dirty Flip. I would have left that 3 goat country also.
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Im just stating here the FACT that he has a bloodline of a Filipino & an Italian...you piece of grabage! eat more grease you...fast food eating monster! (this dyke is obses with me now!) you're so scary!
When watching stuff like this, I have to agree with crime novelist Patricia Highsmith: hate is more interesting than love; fear is more interesting than courage; psychosis is more interesting than sanity.
People can't even take sarcasm lightly.
marvelous211 2 weeks ago
stupid people
pelicanus11 2 months ago
I love how the narrator says his Andrew's last name.
lolin, it's kinda hot X)
xXxLyzxXx 5 months ago
i wish i was at the scene when he committed some of these atrocious murders, i would empty a few clips of hollow points into him.
vwazp 6 months ago
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vwazp 6 months ago
HE IS HOT! i hope i marry a serial killer ♥
elmosesa 6 months ago
I would let them grow but they are twitching!
weirdcitykid 9 months ago
My eyebrows have gotten too long of late - I am seriously considering shaving them off all together!
weirdcitykid 9 months ago
Hmm, the Doc seems to have a narcisitic personality. Only God can judge how evil a person is.
shoaibalig 10 months ago
andrew cunanan definetely was a spree killer, just as there are different types of serial killers there are different types of spree killers too.
heathergx 10 months ago
Ugh, he was gay..it seems like most serial killers are gay :/
caligal2010 10 months ago
I don't think this guy would have gotten so much attention if he just killed five ordinary guys rather than one of them being Gianni Versace
CVKent317 11 months ago 2
Sounds like he killed Versace out of bitterness, not to elevate his stature.
rockies74 11 months ago
i LOVE how Dr. Michael Stone goes into the criminal's past and explains how their past influenced their crimes. I am going to study Forensic Psychology & he definitely played a big role in that because I idolize him so much.
Aatifah 1 year ago
One of the Most Evil would be a good way to describe Andrew Cunanan
FRSFreeState 1 year ago
Andrew Cunanan was a wannabe Hollywood Celebrity who never accomplished that who instead became famous for murdering a famous Fashion Designer
FrsBigeasy 1 year ago
who gives a fuck about versace if it had been a regular citizen & not a celebrity they wouldnt have put as much effort in to finding cunanan
TheGLOCK40cal 1 year ago 3
There is an online article called "Homosexual couples and domestic violence" and it shows that gay couples are more likely to be violent than are straight couples!
Bestmanme08 1 year ago
@Bestmanme08 Obama knew somebody cured of being gay! Call 1-888-264-0877 for a genuine homosexual cure! The book Obam:Why Black America Should Have Doubts shows this of Obama! And teh book Ted Kennedy: The Early Years shows Obama got Kennedy help in getting elected in 2008! Both great books at amazon!
Bestmanme08 1 year ago
@Bestmanme08 I've known "ex-gays" too -- some of the most frightened, deeply unhappy people I've ever met. The "therapy" they undergo is borderline torture, and doesn't even work. You can't change who you are.
streetswell 1 year ago 2
@streetswell LOL. Ex-gays. They're called bisexuals...they were never gay to begin with. Gays just need to get over it. Messing around with the same sex doesn't make someone gay, and the gay establishment has oppressed bisexuals all under the guise of being for them. This dude is your typical lying, fantasy loving homosexual, but a hero because so many in the gay establishment deserve exactly this dude did to that filthy, slave-driving, tacky fashion designer Versace.
NoPansyGOP 1 year ago
@NoPansyGOP He murdered five of his fellow human beings for no reason, and you're calling him a hero. Who's the sicko here?
streetswell 1 year ago 2
@streetswell
He killed Versace how sad.........
aboveandbeyondify 11 months ago
@Bestmanme08 oh you believe everything you read? You know nothing of statistics either.. First of all MANY MANY incidents of DV in straight couples go unreported because women are too afraid of the reprecussions. Usually gets reported when someone else notices and makes a report. Your comments are "straight ignorant"! Pun intended!!!
mrpablosd29 1 year ago
No sexual component to Cunanan. That's why he is a spree killer. A spree killer is not better or worse than a serial killer. Versace was a serial bad dresser, thats about it.
blindandwatching 1 year ago
Just like good, evil is a concept that belongs in morality and//or religion. Not in forensic, psychological or psychiatric science. The scale and the whole pseudo-scientific setting of the show is merely a flimsy excuse to serve up sensational, horryfing "true stories" about crimes that shook the public. I find these stories and the events they are about fascinating, but Stone and his bullcrap scale are travesties of a psychiatrist and of the methods of pshychiatric evaluation.
BiffChunksteak 1 year ago
Thats scary...A SERIAL BUTTFUCKER ON THE LOOSE...
MAKATI2LA 1 year ago
fucking lame. petty crimes. scale of one to ten..2. limp dick here pal.
hoogengraven 1 year ago
hahah my friends dad was the guy who was murdered at fort mott and he stole his truck to drive to kill versace.
humancide 1 year ago
"Big deal, death comes with the territory. See you in Disneyland."
-Richard Ramirez
pyschokiller2 1 year ago
@pyschokiller2 By now Ramirez is probably hip to it that getting sodomized by Bubba on a daily basis also comes with the territory. He'll wish he was in Disneyland.
BiffChunksteak 1 year ago
I didn't study psychology but I could've came up with the same thing has he did.
alexandreleverrier 1 year ago
y r some serial killers so cute?
partycrazy21 1 year ago
ah affiliate30 ya serial killers do kill in multiple states ted bundy killed in 4 states
kvncortez 1 year ago
what i he just killed bunch of annoying fags (self included) and fashion designers , that makes him a good guy
sewagedweller 1 year ago
@sewagedweller I can't believe this dipshit comment actually has thumbs up
teemell19 1 year ago
omg
kidrainenfina 1 year ago
this is giving gay bipolar drug addicted murderers a bad name....
1955porsche 2 years ago 18
@1955porsche LMFAO!!!!!!!
baffledoverit 1 year ago
@1955porsche this guy Andrew Cunanan was set up and blamed for all the unresolved murders that happened in 1997, there is not way in heck someone can move from one state to another in such a killing spread, serial killers do not kill in such a patern
affiliate30 1 year ago
@affiliate30 Hence the designation "spree killer".
iamtheCLAW 1 year ago
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That's what happens when your brought up in AMERICA. YOU TURN BRAINLESS AND DUMB.
buksingera 2 years ago
Oh come on theres dumb asses every where, so what if america and australia have cornered that market.
Revmd 2 years ago 3
Buksingera,
And we invented the computer. You know the little machine you're using to tell Americans how dumb they are. +
mosaicglass 2 years ago
then what do you call george bush ??
buksingera 2 years ago
Hell's firewood.
tardwhisperer 1 year ago
where do you go when you die?
OGCowboyck 2 years ago
Into the ground.
Bumblybee256 2 years ago 2
@OGCowboyck anywhere you want
potheadNZ 2 years ago
i think eminem is saying something about this guy in song 3 am!!!fuck man most evil is so scary
TheKIngBP 2 years ago
Cunanan got caught before he could get into the major leagues of serial killers, that's why he shot himself. He was ego driven more than anything.
WatchVenusSpa 2 years ago
This is not a serial killer situation. Andrew Cunanan is a spree killer. Something inside of him snapped and he acted in pain.
Oaken007 2 years ago
Oh, please! He had been a pathological liar since gradeschool, promiscuous since Junior High, a prostitute since college....never held a job...was a practicing prostitute and deeply into extreme Sadomasochism....AND HE DID LOTS AND LOTS OF DRUGS!!!!!!!! All anyone needs as an explanation is the drugs. This is how people often eventually act when they do drugs.
megaswenson 2 years ago
There's a similiar Filipino with the same M.O. as Andrew, and that is Delfin J Montano - google "the not so talented D J Montano" he's going to have the same ending as Cunanan" scary !!!!!!
90210lalaland 2 years ago
Wow! Thanks, 90210lalaland! I have that blog open in another window, right now. It's not making much sense. Reminds me of my first few weeks of Business Law...impenetrable, until you assemble all the fragmented parts. But this will be fun to figure out.
megaswenson 2 years ago
fagget ass killer
JONAVANN24 2 years ago
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It's spelled f a g g o t .
megaswenson 2 years ago
i know how i spell it and you a fagget for correcting me
JONAVANN24 2 years ago
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Rape me...
pspaddict80 2 years ago
Fucking freak.
pseudonym1964 2 years ago
Boomerang...
pspaddict80 2 years ago
PISH. We're only pretending Andrew is worse than any other murderder SOLELY because Versace was killed.
We're only calling it a spree killing because Versace was killed. 5 victims in 3 months? Not so spree as people like the DC sniper!
mowriter 2 years ago 18
So true, mowriter, there are Illegals running around America killing just as frequently...and often for far longer periods...
I think the Angel Resendiz murder trail is an excellent example. He committed nine murders we know of. A lot of interesting stuff has been written about that one.
megaswenson 2 years ago
@mowriter so 5 kills in 3 months aint a spree?, since loads of serial killers took months and months of preparation for their kills, i consider 5 in 3 months a spree, and not just because he killed versace, but based on different killers, this is a spree
spacegarnaal 11 months ago
@mowriter and another thing, you think DR.Michael stone is talking shit?
spacegarnaal 11 months ago
This guy left a body near a lake I was living at in MN!!!!! SERIOUSLY!
TheChokebuster 2 years ago
i know a person named christia cunanan.......
Nelifaction 2 years ago
Rest in hell, bottom feeder
yada147258 2 years ago
I WISH A MOTHA FUCKA WOULD!!!
gaaraisg 2 years ago 2
he reminds me of Tom Ripley
flyingbeagles 2 years ago
Yeah...and Ripley's Believe it or Not, too!
stableshadow 2 years ago
this guy isnt shit.
Bl1nd420 2 years ago
Maybe he didnt like some of Versace' designs so he took him out
ssaryanindia 2 years ago 3
lolz he killed versache
biaxtreme 2 years ago
5th victim in three months?
this world needs a killer who stacks 10 bodies a day.
Bl1nd420 2 years ago
10 a day and they should all be old people.
biaxtreme 2 years ago
You fucking sicko
Roahn3 2 years ago
who told you most notorious serial killers are repressed homosexuals? heh, do some research fer fuck sakes.
EV150 2 years ago
There is a disproportinate number who are, but of course that does not make all serial killers homosexuals anymore than it makes all homosexuals hairdressers (stereotypes). And I do not believe the ones who are homosexual resort to murder because of that, it is usually due to an abusive, loveless childhood in most cases.
silbitnuoc 2 years ago
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how come most notorious serial killers are repressed homosexuals? Does repression make people angry?
DanteVandal 2 years ago
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who gives a fuck?
bmin7b5 2 years ago
What a tragic loss!
R.I.P Gianni Versace
RedLipstickGalore 2 years ago 2
lol, just because you guys are gay doesn't mean you should stick together with a guy who happened to be gay and then killed some people. That is so wrong!
bunnygrabbit 2 years ago 2
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har har 3 goat country lol
Let's face it - - gayness makes people angry, lots of gay angry people. It was his gayism that made him kill. The only reason this guy became famous is because he killed someone famous. Me thinks the gangsters in this city have probably killed twice as many as this guy and I don't see them on youtube.
Society is so reactive. How gay.
bunnygrabbit 2 years ago
Being gay doesn't make people angry. How you even came to that conclusion I will never know. Maybe its because you're homophobic. I guess you are saying that the BTK Killer and other murders like him aren't famous cause they didn't kill anybody famous. And another thing. Who the f**k cares about "gangsters" in this city?
IndestructibleRuler 2 years ago
Homosexuality, not "Gayism". if you're going to make a bold statement like that, atleast try to sound intelligent.
Behemoth12391 2 years ago
I just love how people throw the term homophobic around so much. I think you find that people are not homo-phobic, afraid of homosexuals, so much as they just disagree or dislike the lifestyle, i.e.bigotry. There is a difference. You may not like being criticized, but that term is being used way, way out of context. I am certainly not 'phobic' about gays, I do not personally like that lifestyle, but I say each to his own.
silbitnuoc 2 years ago
BRO, i know how you feel man. its not like im scared of gay peoples or anything, i just don't apperiate gettting hit on at the bar by another dude. srry for grammer im not english
treesapa 2 years ago
Damn right. I don't want to be approached by them in a bar or club either. I can say that that it has only happened twice, but as soon as I told them I was not gay they backed the hell off immediately with apologies, so at least they left me alone.
silbitnuoc 2 years ago
yeah, happen to me once.
treesapa 2 years ago
Yeah, I hate it when I'm hanging out in gay bars and all these gay guys hit on me. It's annoying. :-)
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stableshadow 2 years ago
ur a bit of an idiot. people need to be proud of where they come from. he had to qualms of being gay, just poor.
allandy4u 2 years ago
I usually agree with Stone's placement of killers, but he missed Lee Miglin's murder. He was systematically tortured to death by Cunanan, who precisely imitated the actions in a twisted porn film. Therefore, Cunanan should be at level 22.
To those insulting Cunanan because he was gay, are you saying it would have been less evil if Miglin had been a woman? I'd also remind you of even worse hetero killers like David Parker Ray, Gary Heidnik, Dr. Holmes and BTK.
Barmyandlight 2 years ago 3
psychopath gay...tsk..tsk
2xlouka 2 years ago
ice cold bastard
changling21 2 years ago 2
ive been noticing that alot of killers are homosexual, Cunanan, Albert Fish, Dahmer, John Gacy. Thats just a few
kellerdood32 2 years ago
Fascinating.
TashaRichardsonFan 2 years ago
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Gay people dont matter!
pontiacfirebird1997 2 years ago
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yes and i will repeat it str8 to your face...he is not american...he doesnt have american blood on his vains...he maybe have american passport of listed as american in his birth certificate but hey DYKE YOU CAN NEVER CHANGE THA FACT THAT HE IS OR WAS NOT AN AMERICAN,... dont bother to comment on this dyke...continue your obsession cunanan... bye!
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abet208 2 years ago
Andrew cunanan was asian american!
jome 2 years ago
coward!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
he kills himself...what a pathetic gay looser u were....hope u rott in hell Motherfucker!
cbjm1978 2 years ago
you realize Andrew Cunanan can't hear you, right?
Ellajuud 2 years ago 13
@Ellajuud I HOPE NOT
thoostorm4 1 year ago
we r all trapeted in a cage with urges humen souls call serial killers . what are we named if we think but dont act. just image krazy thoughts,but dont act upon them?- kike yanez-
kikeyanez 2 years ago
15 is weak. How the hell did he find out where Versace lived and what about details?
Fade9150 2 years ago
i don't believe in people actually being evil because there is always a reason and they always get something out of what they do.
bosnia91 3 years ago
These media guys get off on painting monsters. They love this stuff. The media is EVIL. They should have a special on them.
scoresby33 3 years ago
Good point. If you add up all the time of evil deeds in their lives it would probably be a very very small percentage. I think we all have evil impulses at times. Its interesting to see what drives people over the edge to the wildside.
Fade9150 2 years ago
This is the shoddiest account of Cunanan's crimes I've seen. Some of the information presented here was false or misleading. It sounds like they flat-out made up some "facts" to make the story fit into a neat package. For a more accurate (and humanizing) account of Cunanan and his murder spree, watch "Fashion Victim," starring Jonathon Trent. (Not out on DVD, but a preview on this site links to other sites where you can watch it free.)
TruTV also has a comprehensive (print) account.
laine333 3 years ago
just because your effed up Cunanan! doesn't mean u go and kill ppl!!!!!! gosh!
25Snugs25 3 years ago 3
Andrew Cunanan was not the first gay serial killer,Jeffrey Dahmer was gay too!!
WCD73 3 years ago 3
Albert Fish was also a HOMO.
Paladin5777 3 years ago
he's he was he raped both girls and boys and ate both girls and buys
nemier 3 years ago
There are loads of them. Gacy, Bonin, Dodd I can go on forever.
Fade9150 2 years ago
most of them, Americans.
hahahahaha
pabelster 2 years ago
Yeah America has been known to spawn more serial killers then any other place so go figure.
Fade9150 2 years ago 4
and cunanan is not american...he's filipino-italian...
abet208 2 years ago
Im going to post you the first sentence on wiki. So you can feel a little more like an idiot then you probably already do.
"Andrew Phillip Cunanan (August 31, 1969 July 23, 1997) was an American spree killer."
Fade9150 2 years ago
look fag, his father is a filipino while his mom is a italian....they just become american citrizens you have to deal with it coz thats the thruth...am i wrong Dyke? now out pf my way! go back your mothers cunt!
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abet208 2 years ago
Everyone is the states is from blood lines of other countries you uneducated idiot. Are you telling me the only American serial killers have to be Native Americans. Are you proud because your a dirty Flip. I would have left that 3 goat country also.
Fade9150 2 years ago
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Im just stating here the FACT that he has a bloodline of a Filipino & an Italian...you piece of grabage! eat more grease you...fast food eating monster! (this dyke is obses with me now!) you're so scary!
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abet208 2 years ago
you didnt talk about his blood line you said he wasnt American. Im right youre wrong.
Fade9150 2 years ago
this guy disgraces my last name which is cunanan
cool9235 3 years ago 4
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i am a fan of Andrew too!!!
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I am cUNANAN FAN, I WANT TO KILL CELEBRYTY TOO
darigonza260 3 years ago
I love Most Evil!
MissHellsing666 3 years ago
i know :P same man, i watch it all the time whenever it's on
shadowkill64 3 years ago
Yeah I'm watching it on TV now.
MissHellsing666 3 years ago
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u can have SO much fun ... with me
I miss you! qF
bssimp22 3 years ago
When watching stuff like this, I have to agree with crime novelist Patricia Highsmith: hate is more interesting than love; fear is more interesting than courage; psychosis is more interesting than sanity.
BeatBuddy 3 years ago 5
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Beat, I remember this was story was used as a tool to hate on gays and accuse us of being violent.
Clemburke1111 3 years ago
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Clem, same with Jeffrey Dahmer. Harassment shot up even though gays were the victims, it was gays who took the rap.
I live in Boston Strangler territory and I don't know of any straights being attacked for being violent, or Italians for that matter.
BeatBuddy 3 years ago
Gil, it does look like we are going to lose in California.
Clemburke1111 3 years ago
I just Googled the search engine and found a mixed results from various polls. Just hold tight. Whatever the results, the margin will be narrow.
BeatBuddy 3 years ago
Gil, its making me very nervous.
Clemburke1111 3 years ago
Both sides of the issue are nervous.
BeatBuddy 3 years ago
Yep, its scaey, but I am pretty good at predicting voter outcome,,I think "Yes" will win.
Clemburke1111 3 years ago
That is so true.
MissHellsing666 3 years ago
Thanks for posting, i love Most Evil
koalastephanie 3 years ago