Put another way, if I want to learn about medicine, I know to go to a doctor, if I want to learn about my car, i will go to a mechanic, if I need advise on my budget I will go to a financial planner. If I want to learn about what Moses wrote about I will go to a Jewish Rabbi, or what Paul was writing about i will go to a christian theologian. But if I want to learn about biology, I will go to a biologist, not a preacher.
@tgillspy1 Just to be clear, you want me to believe a book written by nomadic tribesmen 2000-3000 years ago who thought that epilepsy was demon possession and that the best way to tell if your wife was cheating on you was to poison her with dirt from a place where animal sacrifices were made continually and see if she died. And that I should disregard hundreds of thousands of highly educated scientists who have been studying biology/paleontology/archeology/genetics/geology and medicine?
@PositiveShift ....I think you are being argumentative and oversimplifying the entire history of man just a teeny bit. how do you build your opinions? I challenge you to explain how and why the laws of the universe operate as they do, based upon your own science...or lack thereof. There simply are things that we as humans do not and cannot know at this time and stage in our own development. we are mere children trying to explain away the universe, to suit our own limited vision and wisdom.
@thewatcher2970 Thanks for your reply watcher. Of course your challenge is currently not achievable, we currently don't have ALL the answers to how and why the laws of the universe operate as they do. I am more than happy to admit that. So I am left with choosing a path that is most likely to lead me to truth and answers that are reliable. Clearly Science has the better record of providing reliable answers than the a book written 2000+ years ago does. Which was the original point.
@PositiveShift ...Okay. My challenge is not wholly achievable at this time, but it IS pursuable. Knowing what we do about the universe NOW...how & why does it function on many levels as it does & govern itself without any "rules" or someone to guide it? Gravity, light, electromagnetism, dark matter, black holes, intergalactic spectacles...all known to us now...discounting former "reliable" answers given by learned men years ago. Science still can't give me a formula for happiness.
@PositiveShift ...Okay. My challenge is not wholly achievable at this time, but it IS pursuable. Knowing what we do about the universe NOW...how & why does matter function on many levels as it does & govern itself without any "rules" or someone to guide it? Gravity, light, electromagnetism, dark matter, black holes, intergalactic spectacles...all known to us now...discounting former "reliable" answers given by learned men years ago. Science still can't give me a formula for happiness though.
@thewatcher2970 I agree wholeheartedly, we should most definitely pursue the tough questions and learn as much as possible. My contention isn't that we stop seeking but that we don't simply accept a notion as a means to fill in ignorance about it. Regarding happiness, you are actually wrong. Neuroscience is making incredibly strides in learning how our brains work and what stimulates emotions. We are learning how certain behaviors stimulate chemical creation which lead to stress or euphoria.
@tgillspy1 I think that you are one of the best troll ever! "The Darwin monkey theory", if you say monkey theory you probably didn't understand very well, no one intelligent would accept that but yet the majority of educated people are atheist and the majority of people without study are religious. Funny! well i will enjoy this great movie, and will not waste any more time with you, because i really doubt that you can have a logical debate, and also this is not the place for that!
@Aneron88 ...too late. You are being very foolish and insulting towards all persons who choose to believe in a religion or faith..by insinuating they are not intelligent and that atheists are, simply because they reject any notion of a supreme being. That blade cuts both ways, so choose your words more carefully. It would do no harm for you to try and grasp the concept of something that exists even if you cannot see it. Dark matter, for example. Chew on that a while.
@tgillspy1 please tell me that you are being sarcastic! because the universe was created by the mighty Flying Spaghetti, i also have a fairytale book written by men to prove that! ow and i also think that my god can kick your god ass, so how about we leave it reason, empirical evidences, and logical thinking and make a "holy war"??? lol!
@Aneron88 steady on...you're not winning anyone over by shouting your belief at the top of your lungs. Some people cannot be reasoned with when it comes to faith. They have none, therefore they mock others who do. Save your breath. I am a believer too. I understand science as we know it. I also know in myself that God exists, created man, all life on the earth, the stars, planets, galaxies and universe. God is the greatest scientist and a loving Father. He allows us to choose what to believe.
Song is John Murphy's Adagio in D/Strobe/surface of the sun
MrJamesonKurt 18 hours ago
Put another way, if I want to learn about medicine, I know to go to a doctor, if I want to learn about my car, i will go to a mechanic, if I need advise on my budget I will go to a financial planner. If I want to learn about what Moses wrote about I will go to a Jewish Rabbi, or what Paul was writing about i will go to a christian theologian. But if I want to learn about biology, I will go to a biologist, not a preacher.
PositiveShift 3 months ago
@tgillspy1 Just to be clear, you want me to believe a book written by nomadic tribesmen 2000-3000 years ago who thought that epilepsy was demon possession and that the best way to tell if your wife was cheating on you was to poison her with dirt from a place where animal sacrifices were made continually and see if she died. And that I should disregard hundreds of thousands of highly educated scientists who have been studying biology/paleontology/archeology/genetics/geology and medicine?
PositiveShift 4 months ago
@PositiveShift ....I think you are being argumentative and oversimplifying the entire history of man just a teeny bit. how do you build your opinions? I challenge you to explain how and why the laws of the universe operate as they do, based upon your own science...or lack thereof. There simply are things that we as humans do not and cannot know at this time and stage in our own development. we are mere children trying to explain away the universe, to suit our own limited vision and wisdom.
thewatcher2970 3 months ago
@thewatcher2970 Thanks for your reply watcher. Of course your challenge is currently not achievable, we currently don't have ALL the answers to how and why the laws of the universe operate as they do. I am more than happy to admit that. So I am left with choosing a path that is most likely to lead me to truth and answers that are reliable. Clearly Science has the better record of providing reliable answers than the a book written 2000+ years ago does. Which was the original point.
PositiveShift 3 months ago
@PositiveShift ...Okay. My challenge is not wholly achievable at this time, but it IS pursuable. Knowing what we do about the universe NOW...how & why does it function on many levels as it does & govern itself without any "rules" or someone to guide it? Gravity, light, electromagnetism, dark matter, black holes, intergalactic spectacles...all known to us now...discounting former "reliable" answers given by learned men years ago. Science still can't give me a formula for happiness.
thewatcher2970 3 months ago
@PositiveShift ...Okay. My challenge is not wholly achievable at this time, but it IS pursuable. Knowing what we do about the universe NOW...how & why does matter function on many levels as it does & govern itself without any "rules" or someone to guide it? Gravity, light, electromagnetism, dark matter, black holes, intergalactic spectacles...all known to us now...discounting former "reliable" answers given by learned men years ago. Science still can't give me a formula for happiness though.
thewatcher2970 3 months ago
@thewatcher2970 I agree wholeheartedly, we should most definitely pursue the tough questions and learn as much as possible. My contention isn't that we stop seeking but that we don't simply accept a notion as a means to fill in ignorance about it. Regarding happiness, you are actually wrong. Neuroscience is making incredibly strides in learning how our brains work and what stimulates emotions. We are learning how certain behaviors stimulate chemical creation which lead to stress or euphoria.
PositiveShift 3 months ago
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@tgillspy1 I think that you are one of the best troll ever! "The Darwin monkey theory", if you say monkey theory you probably didn't understand very well, no one intelligent would accept that but yet the majority of educated people are atheist and the majority of people without study are religious. Funny! well i will enjoy this great movie, and will not waste any more time with you, because i really doubt that you can have a logical debate, and also this is not the place for that!
Aneron88 6 months ago
@Aneron88 ...too late. You are being very foolish and insulting towards all persons who choose to believe in a religion or faith..by insinuating they are not intelligent and that atheists are, simply because they reject any notion of a supreme being. That blade cuts both ways, so choose your words more carefully. It would do no harm for you to try and grasp the concept of something that exists even if you cannot see it. Dark matter, for example. Chew on that a while.
thewatcher2970 3 months ago
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Aneron88 6 months ago
@tgillspy1 please tell me that you are being sarcastic! because the universe was created by the mighty Flying Spaghetti, i also have a fairytale book written by men to prove that! ow and i also think that my god can kick your god ass, so how about we leave it reason, empirical evidences, and logical thinking and make a "holy war"??? lol!
Aneron88 6 months ago
@Aneron88 steady on...you're not winning anyone over by shouting your belief at the top of your lungs. Some people cannot be reasoned with when it comes to faith. They have none, therefore they mock others who do. Save your breath. I am a believer too. I understand science as we know it. I also know in myself that God exists, created man, all life on the earth, the stars, planets, galaxies and universe. God is the greatest scientist and a loving Father. He allows us to choose what to believe.
thewatcher2970 3 months ago
im dying to know the name of the theme song that starts about halfway!!
klptzxm 10 months ago
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fredfosterx 1 year ago
im impressed with myself. this music was from the wolverine origins trailer.
thecritiqu 1 year ago
ok it was a great film i watched it on
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mauriciosthilaire456 1 year ago
When is this coming to the UK? I have to see it.
bigronnie1971 1 year ago
wow,cant wait to see this! thanks for making this happen finally!
Mike3gdc 1 year ago