The scriptures paint a different picture, brother. Mary is dead just like all others in their graves. The assumption of Mary is just that, an assumption. They presume and believe that she was lifted to heaven, but there is no valid evidence. It is a trap.
Mary is not the queen of heaven. She was a normal person like anyone else. The Catholic church attributes unnecessary veneration to Mary. Read Judges 5:24. Also, the Queen of heaven is actually a false babylonian idol. Read Jeremiah 17:18-19.
The writings of Paul are heretical? Paul has his writings from the Lord. ( 1 Corinthians 14:37)
The saints are sleeping, they are not in heaven. Only a select few are in heaven, such as Moses and Elijah. David is not ascended into the heavens (Acts 2:34) All are in the graves, awaiting either eternal life, or eternal death. (John 5:28-29) Mary is also in the grave, and she had other children. (Mark 6:3)
Only God is immortal (1 Timothy 6:16) The soul that sins shall DIE (Ezekiel 18:4)
I have stated numerous times, I am not attacking people. I am exposing errors and false doctrines that go against the scriptures, and Jesus. If you love someone, you would want to tell them the truth, not hide away and let it pass.
@Jesusisthetruevine but the truth when it comes to spiritual sense is unknown by anyone but the dead, for all we know the catholics are the ones who got it right, and others are mistaken, or that christianity as a whole is wrong. no one knows till its too late, and their in the ground.
The dead know NOTHING (Ecclesiastes 9:5-6) They do not return (Jeremiah 22:10, Job 7:9-10) There is no more remembrance in death (Psalm 6:5) The dead's thoughts perish (Psalm 146:4) The dead praise not (Psalm 115:17) The spirit or breath returns to God at death (Ecclesiastes 12:7)
We know from the Bible, That the doctrines of Rome came from paganism. This is undeniable fact. Catholic theologians and historians agree. I can give you the sources if you like. The word of God is truth (John 17:17)
@Jesusisthetruevine You haven't even provided proof.First of all JESUS send JIS apostles out to cast out demons and to forgive sins,Who these days does that in the name of JESUS? Catholics,
Here is a passage for you,John 20:19-31 and Matthew 10:5-10
No person can forgive sins. You are taking that verse out of context. Read Matthew 18:15-20. See the phrase "bound" and "loosed?" They are very similar to "retain" and "remitted" in John chapter 20. It has nothing to do with forgiving sins. The apostles were given the direction to preach the gospel. If they believed the gospel, their sins were remitted. If not, they were retained. Why does Catholicism teach they can forgive sins? The apostles never forgave sin, It can't be found in scripture.
@Jesusisthetruevine Do an equivalent cartoon about the Protestants and I will be impressed. Until then, you're just another hypocrite, "loving" those people you really hate so much.
I do not agree, friend. I love people, that is why the truth will set free. I do not hate. Can't you see?
Jesus told us to rejoice, and dance for joy, whenever one speaks evil against us falsely, for Jesus sake. Amen! Praise belongs only to God. If you are willing, you can also be free.
lol! If you were "joking," that is not funny. The evidence is clear who follows manmade doctrines. How can you claim to follow the Bible, when you teach contrary to the Bible?
They were the first Christian church, now your attacking of Christians, they were the original church, I'm pretty sure if anyone was right, it would be the church that was founded by a guy who actually knew Jesus personally. All Christian faiths stem from the catholic church, read some history and don't just think because someone's title is different than yours that their wrong, I was raised catholic, so I know what their teachings are, and guess what, they are EXACTLY the same as all other Chr
Hello, Good day. All churches do NOT stem from the catholic church. I see that you did not study the Bible well. Most of the doctrines of the Catholic church contradict those of scripture. All it's influences come from babylonian paganism, and sun worship. They substitute manmade laws rather than God's commandments. The Bible condemns idolatry, it does not support it. Therefore, the Catholic church is not the church that follows The scriptures. You just can't have truth and error together.
If they were the true church, then they would follow God's laws. Remember, we are told in the Epistles of John, If we have not the doctrine of Christ's, then we are not God's. God's true church is an uncompromising one, not one that teaches error. You can read about the "saints" in Revelation 14:12. May God bless you, and lead you in your search.
Sorry you feel that way. It is your opinion that this video is "stupid." However, The CC is not the first church. History tells us that The papacy came *after* the Caesars, ie. after the roman empire. The Catholic church did not exist 2000 years ago. Sorry, but you need to get the history straight. The true church was there in the apostles day, those who follow the Bible and Jesus. This is the true church. Read Revelation 14:12. Peace be with you.
@kvn276 so you're saying even tho the catholic denomination opposes God's law, changes the truth, makes their own devil doctrines, completely ignore the words of the Bible, the Bible mentions of a false woman (church) who controls the beast (rome) and prosecutes the woman (true church) just like in the dark ages when true followers of Jesus and the Gospel were killed and torture which is mentioned in revelation , the catholic church is the right church?
@kvn276 The church breaking off from cathoism is called the REFORMATION for a reason. The catholic church might have been correct at the beginning, but the pope quickly gave into temptation to corrupt it during the dark ages. The pope took advantage of illiterate followers and changed God's laws to fit his own selfish needs. Even after the reformation, the catholic church STILL refuses to change! They have blinded their followers and turned them against their Savior!
@Jesusisthetruevine "the very great, the very ancient, and universally known Church founded and organized at Rome by the two most glorious apostles, Peter and Paul; as also [by pointing out] the faith preached to men, which comes down to our time by means of the successions of the bishops. For it is a matter of necessity that every Church should agree with this Church, on account of its preeminent authority" - St Irenaeus around 150 A.D. long b4 Constantine and Christianity was legal in Rome
"The letters inscribed in the Pope's miter are these 'VICARIUS FILII DEI'. which is the Latin for 'VICAR OF THE SON OF GOD.' Catholics hold that the church, which is a visible society, must have a visible head. Christ, before his ascension into heaven, appointed St. Peter to act as His representative... Hence to the Bishop of Rome, as head of the church, was given the title, 'VICAR OF CHRIST'." Our Sunday Visitor, (Catholic Weekly) "Bureau of information," Huntington, Ind., April 18, 1915.
In case you did not notice, they are Catholic articles, admitting to heresy. Lord, have mercy.
The Pope's titles add up to 666. Could this be a coincidence? No.. It was well expected.
The penetration of the religion of Babylon became so general and well known that Rome was called the "New Babylon." (Faith of our fathers 1917 ed. Cardinal Gibbons, p. 106)
"In these last days God hath spoken to us by his son Ignatius, (Jesuit founder) whom he hast appointed Heir of all thing, by whom also he made the world. (Preached by F. Doza J.S., "The Firey Jesuits," p, 66)
Blasphemy.
The Pope is not only the representative of Jesus Christ, he is Jesus Christ himself, hidden under the veil of flesh." Catholic National July 1895.
why do you attack catholics? why we dont go on the streets preaching we stay in our church and keep to ourselfs we do not attack other churches becuase we accept other people why do you attack us when we keep to oursevles we didnt bother you. and isnt got the only one to judge if you were a real christian then why are you juding catholics. just stop
I am not attacking Catholics - just the false doctrines that the church spreads. It is a dishonor to claim to follow the Bible, and not do so. I am just smashing the walls of falsehood, with the hammer of the word.
I am Catholic, and I firmly love Jesus as my Lord.
I love the way that I get to worship Jesus in the liturgy. I love that I get to be one with my Savior in communion. I love that I get to listen to His beautiful words in the gospel reading, and hear of more ways I can love others like He did intentionally and sacrificially. The life as a disciple is not easy, but He makes it worth it.
If I am receiving so much of our Lord in this way of worshiping Him, what is wrong with that to you?
That is good to hear, friend. I am glad you enjoy the fellowship, and the Lord. See, there are precious Catholics and people from all denominations that could be saved, maybe they were just misinformed. I must say though, that it is possible to worship God in vain. (Matthew 15:9) Perhaps you are truly seeking the light of God's word and his will. Jesus tells all to forsake the manmade traditions, and follow his truth. They who worship, must worship in spirit and truth. (John 4:24)
@mrblacksheep1o1 This is a complete lie. Jesus gave the apostels the ability to forgive and retain sins. Petros is the masculin term for rock, petra is the feminim term for rock. Just as you would use a masuline term for a place or thing in spanish but the oppiste in greek. To say he is right would mean that all the church fathers would be wrong. I think I'll stick to the interpritation of thoes who actually knew the apostels and what they taught, like Ignatious,and Clement.
That is a blatant lie, gtepp031387. Mark 2:7, Luke 5:21 could not be more clear. Only God can forgive sin. Daniel 9:9 states that forgiveness belongs to the Lord. Read Acts Chapter 8. Simon the sorcerer told Peter to ask God to forgive and pray for his forgiveness, Peter did not forgive his sins. It is not found in the Bible. There is no record of the Apostles forgiving sins- a manmade tradition. I pray that you will consider this holy truth. We are not to take God's place. Peace be with you.
@Jesusisthetruevine "Whose sins YOU forgive are forgiven them, and whose sins YOU retain are retained." (John 20:23) Further more anyone who doubts that the apostels are one with and in the LORD has not listen well to John 17:20-24. Jesus gave all authority to bind and loose to the apostels. Who with this authority built a phsyical church and left phsyical sucessores(Bishops) to take over there office and ministy. "whoever opposes the bishop does in reality serve the devil" St Ignatious 88 A.D
"YOU" have taken this scripture out of context. I already told you, only God can forgive sin, and there is NO example in the Bible of apostles forgiving sins, which proves the CC teaching is a lie of satan.
Ignatius was mistaken. If one goes against God's word, they are serving evil. Ignatius did not study his Bible. We read in Isaiah 8:20 that if any speak not according to the scriptures, there is no light in them. It is better to trust the Lord, than to put confidence in men. (Psalm 118:8)
@Jesusisthetruevine Ignatious was mistaken LOL.He was taught and ordained face to face by the apostels.. your lost. You have no authority,unlike Ignatious to hold the teaching as"no scripture is a matter of personal interpritation" 2Peter 1:20 Therfore i will take the interpritation of the united church at ecumentical council over your anyday as Peter has forwarned me about your kind. I will also take the word of thoes who knew the apostels face to face over your modern nightmare(church) anyday
Exactly. No scripture is of any private interpretation. Rome has completely ignored this rule, by substituting manmade traditions above God's word. Why are you arguing? You are not defending the truth of God's word. I will pray that you will leave this deception. Brother, why fight against the Lord? God has sent a warning to all about the fate of the roman church in Revelation 18. If you truly love God, then you will heed the message. Peace be upon you.
Face to face? that is funny. I am not lost, friend. You would have the beam in your own eye. Jesus warns us in his holy word against hypocrites. I highly suggest you search. He must have forgotten everything they said, because the teachings are not true. Obviously not. Have you heard of Polycarp? He was a close friend of the apostle John. When he heard the Bishop of Rome teaching others to keep sunday, he went to Rome and disagreed. So you are wrong about his "face to face" relationship.
I hate to say this, but you are not representing God. You are standing for manmade myths, which supports God's enemy.
"Out of the ruins of political Rome, arose the great moral Empire in the 'giant form' of the Roman Church."--A.C. Flick, The Rise of the Mediaeval Church, 1909, p. 150.
"The popes filled the place of the vacant emperors at Rome, inheriting their power, their prestige, and their titles from PAGANISM." (Stanley's History, Page 40.)
"It is interesting to note how often our Church has availed herself of practices which were in common use among pagans...Thus it is true, in a certain sense, that some Catholic rites and ceremonies are a reproduction of those of pagan creeds...." (The Externals of the Catholic Church, Her Government, Ceremonies, Festivals, Sacramentals and Devotions, by John F. Sullivan, p 156, published by P.J. Kennedy, NY, 1942)
Sorry, but this is blasphemy. Be honest with yourself here, please.
@Jesusisthetruevine Just read the early church fathers who were taught and ordained directly by the apostels like Clement and Ignatious and you will see your church is a modern nightmare. You reject the apotels teaching and decisions and as so you do not believe in Jesus, becaues if you did you would believe in the ones he sent, the apostels.
It is not I that reject Jesus, my friend. I am not interested in what the "church father's" said. If they reject the scriptures, they they are NOT of God. The Apostles would never accept those false teachings, of CC. Show me ONE scripture, that Jesus exalted "tradition." I am waiting... you cannot. Jesus told us to search the scriptures (John 5:39) It is obvious that CC follows paganism. They admit to worshipping Baal/Pan. It is in the story of Catholicism page 37. Find it. Blessings.
The only things I disagree with on here is saying that infant's cannot be baptized (even though the faith of the parents and sponser/godparents and the promise to bring them up in the faith addressed this) and the child will hopefully, someday make a profession of faith in Christ and His teachings in a confirmation, which would validate said baptism.
That, and I believe Christ is somehow mysteriously present in the Communion elements, but not through transubstantiation.
-The requiring people to refrain from eating meat on Fridays in Lent is also a made up Tradition. Fasting is advocated in Scripture, that's fine, but this is in regards to the church authority admonishing its laity to not eat meat, period, on those days, not just fast.
-The condemnation of contraception in the Roman church, isn't based in solid or clear evidence in Scripture, and considering the society of the past 60 years, no basis in reason either. Women should not be forced to have 13 kids.
-Purgatory cannot be defended in Scripture, not even with the one vague verse in the Epistles commonly used in Roman Catholic apologetics about "as through fire". This is in reference to an individuals works "the person will be saved, but only as through fire", which is in regards to someone's works in life were and what their "foundation" is, not necessarily the "stains" of past sins now forgiven that are being "burned up" in Purgatory.
-Linked to mandatory private confession, it doesn't necessarily have to be a priest; confession could be done to any Christian. Also, prayer to Mary (Hail Mary's) should not have to be done to receive final absolution of sins as a penance. You are forgiven when you confess (to God) your sins and trying to turn from them.
-Forced Clerical celibacy is not scriptural, St. Paul himself calls forbidding of marriage a "doctrine of devils". This was a Tradition made up in the Middle Ages.
No, not everything about the Roman church is in the Bible.
Transubstantiation is not in there; the concept of Christ becoming, in some way, present within the Communion elements is true (at least to me), but it is not described or explained how, therefore it remains "a divine mystery".
Confession to another person can be found in Scripture, but not mandatory confession under penalty of another sin added onto you.
Has it occured to you that the statement may have been directed to the devil who was tempting St. Peter and not really to Peter himself? Also, you have 1st and 2nd Peter that obviously aren't written by Satan but Peter himself. Also, Jesus hands the key to the kingdom over to Peter, not Satan. God bless!
Jesus has the keys again in Revelation 1:18. The keys given to Peter was to preach the gospel, with which we are saved. (Romans 1:16) Jesus would never give keys to an apostate power, I hate to say this. If Peter were alive today, he would not accept for one second the doctrines of the CC. I mean you no harm, but you still have to face the facts. Lukewarm in scripture is not good, Read Revelation chapter 3. Thanks.
I am sorry, AveMaria, I respectfully disagree. The CC is full of good/sincere people, But it is not the church on which Christ built. Matthew 16:18 uses different Greek words, and Christ is referred to as the rock in scripture (1 Corinthians 10:4) Christ was saying Peter's confession, his saying of that truth that Jesus was the Christ, on which he would build his church. Jesus then rebuked Peter, calling him "satan." So much for Peter being the rock, hell already prevailed if that was the case.
The book of Matthew was originally written in Aramaic and not Greek. The petras/petra argument doesn't hold water. I learned this as an undergrad at Biola University which is made up mostly of Baptists. I think most of us held your position at the start but it is clear that Jesus was referring to Peter when He said 'upon this rock, I will build my church.' I, for one, am taking a much closer look at the teaching of the Catholic Church.
Jesus was not referring to Peter. Jesus is the rock referred to in scripture. (1 Corinthians 10:4, Ephesians 2:20)
If Peter was the "rock,"then why did Jesus rebuke him, and call him "satan" a few verses after? So much for the gates of hell not prevailing over the rock... this interpretation makes no sense at all.
Study all day, you will find that many of CC doctrines are not Biblical. Peace, and May God bless you with the truth.
It's kind of comical how Protestants misinterpret a Catholic Book and then tell Catholics "what it means."
There is no Catholic doctrine which contradicts the Bible, and there is nothing in the Bible that contradicts a Catholic doctrine. Why would there be? It's a Catholic Book.
Protestants follow man-made beliefs that are less than 500 years old. For example Sola Fide, Sola Scriptura, being "born again," denying the presence in Eucharist
The Bible is definitely not a catholic book. All the scriptures were completed in the 1st century. The CC came out of the roman empire, which was historically after. Do your research. Most of the catholic doctrines contradict the scriptures. How can you blatantly refuse truth? Jesus said to search the scriptures, and condemned manmade tradition. The Eucharist is not the literal body, that's an abomination against God. Eating flesh and drinking blood is forbidden ( Lev 17:14, 19:267:26, Gen 9:4)
@Jesusisthetruevine "The Eucharist is not the literal body, that's an abomination against God."
OR . . . you are a heretic. Are you calling Jesus a liar?
In Jn 6:51 He says, "I am the living bread that came down from heaven. Whoever eats this bread will live forever. This bread is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.”
So if the bread He gives is His flesh that He "will give for the life of the world," is the flesh that hung on the cross not "the literal body?"
No, that is what the Bible teaches. Obviously, Jesus is speaking *symbolically.* At the last supper, he said that the bread was his body. Were they eating a piece of literal flesh? Of course not. You are setting up a straw man, then avoiding it, and denying the truth! The bread ITSELF is not literal. Like I said, It would create a contradiction. I am not talking about the cross. Jesus also admitted that the wine, was still the "fruit of the vine" in Matthew 26:29. It was grape juice, not blood.
I feel sorry for you. Truth does not hurt, my friend It sets you free. (John 8:32) I get the sense that you take don't take the scripture seriously. The Jews thought they they were to partake of Jesus literal body and blood. That is why they said it was a "hard saying." Jesus then told him that the flesh means nothing, but the spirit quickens, and the words he was speaking were *spirit*, and truth. Jesus is using a metaphor. Just like he was claiming to be the door. It is a spiritual lesson.
With your eternal destiny at stake, I think you are taking quite a risk to to take this position. Jesus says, "Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you." And your response is "Hah, I know better." Your pride and arrogance are your own worst enemies.
Friend, you have it all wrong. You don't have to worry about me, I would ask that you examine your unbiblical doctrines. None of it is biblical, at all. Visit biblelight(dot)net/vatican.htm. It is very informative and truthful about the papal system.
Clearly, you let the truth in one ear, and out the other. Jesus is speaking symbolically. Period. Are we to be cannibals?? NO! you are passing false judgment! You have been blinded by your religion. I will pray for you, to see the light of Christ.
You'd rather be dead wrong than find the truth in Catholicism. That is very sad, and someday you will need to answer for it. There is no sin in being ignorant, but you are willfully ignorant. You chose to call Jesus a liar. We have a merciful God, but why test His limits? You choose man-made beliefs over the Word of God.
Stop wasting my time. You have to face facts. There is no absolute truth in Catholicism. I am not willfully ignorant, you choose not to see the truth, because there is a veil covering your eyes. Give me a break. Catholicism has man made beliefs, and you know it. The word of God will trump the CC in the end, you will see. Don't say I did not warn you.
I am not afraid. Stop posting ignorant, absurd comments and I will respond. STUDY the Bible, and leave CC and into God's church. Revelation 18:4.
Common sense will tell you that is not true. Of course the bread is not the literal body of Christ! It is symbolic. So, Is Jesus a literal wooden door also? Was he a literal vine, with branches? Please be honest with yourself. Jesus said he will not drink the "fruit of the vine" at the last supper, referring to grape juice. Cannibalism is not acceptable. Drinking blood is condemned in the old testament. Thank you.
So, I guess that is where faith comes in. When God says something that defies your "common sense," it would "common sense" to forget about your common sense and believe Him.
All those who left Him in Jn 6:66 were following their common sense. They knew it was against Jewish law to drink blood. One year later at the Last Supper Jesus showed us what he meant by eating His flesh and exactly how it would be done.
That is precisely my point, friend. The Jews KNEW that literal drinking of blood was an abomination, also stated by the Lord in Leviticus 17:12. So? If it were the literal blood we were to drink, then that would be abomination against God. Surely, Jesus would not contradict the Old testament?
That is why it is symbolic. The Jews thought about literal blood. He finally told them in John 6:63 that words he spake were SPIRIT, ie. symbolic meaning, because he knew they were offended.
@Jesusisthetruevine Old Jewish law has no bearings on us now that the New Testament is written. Jesus said very clearly that the bread and wine are his very body and blood, if he meant it to be symbolic he would've said they are symbols. The mass celebrates the Eucharist on his command, "do this in memory of me." Only catholic clergy and consecrate the bread and blood by their lineage from the apostles. Study your theology, stop taking biblical verses out of context, and CONVERT!!
Certain ceremonial laws and washings do not apply today. But, the bread and wine are obviously symbolic. Fruit of the vine refers to the grape juice that he used, brother. The conception of the mass is distorted from scripture. What are you saying? The catholic church did not exist until 200-300's A.D. The scriptures were already written by 96 AD. That is when John wrote the last book of the Bible, Revelation. History confirms this. God calls us OUT of Babylon, not into it. (Rev 18:4) Study!!
@Jesusisthetruevine False, wine is what was drunk at suppers in those days, and it was the case at the initiation of the Eucharist. And actually, Jesus initiated the Catholic Church when he gave the keys to the kingdom of heaven to Peter, on whom the Church is built. You follow the flawed teachings of Luther and other revolutionaries when you should be following infallible Church Teaching. You do not have the power or the will to interpret the Word of God, only the magisterium of the RCC can.
Again, you fail to realise that statement is false. The Greek word "oinos" can refer to grape juice. Did Jesus make gallons upon gallons of raw alcohol? Preposterous. The savior would never do that. Jewish weddings could last a few days at a time. "Petros" and "Petra" are two different words for rock. Christ is the rock. (1 Cor. 10:4)
Jesus has the keys in Revelation. I follow the Bible, not a church tradition. Church is not infallible!! The word of God is. ( 2 Tim 3:16)
@Jesusisthetruevine That is a recent invention Vine. If people drank grape juice in the first century, they would die due to bacteria. This is why throughout history, until our present time, they drank fermented drink. Germs can't live in alcohol. LOL! You are a typical modernist fundamentalist!
Why are you laughing, friend? You are worried about "germs," when The Bible forbids alcohol? Germs may not live in alcohol, but the holy spirit cannot live in a body that is defiled by poisonous alcoholic beverage! You should know better, friend. It defiles the temple of God, which we are. Defiling the bodily temple is not part of God's will. It is not a laughing matter. Cast away all that foolishness, and read 1 Corinthians 6:19-20, and 3:16
@AveMariaFilms There is not to be denominations. We that are born again are of Jesus Christ and have been blessed with his Holy Spirit. Anyone who does not give up there life to the Lord Jesus cannot be born again. You must accept him as Lord and saviour and give your life unto him and live for him and let him guide you in every deceision that you make. It is a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. If you do not have that, then you are not a Christian. Amen.
@AveMariaFilms John 3:3 (King James Version) 3Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
OP? Seems like you did not study your Bible. No, Sola Scriptura is not wrong. Jesus condemned manmade traditions that went against his word (Matthew 15:9 Mark 7:9, Colossians 2:8) Jesus told us to search the scriptures (John 5:39) and not tradition. Don't follow the path of Babylon. It will perish. Follow the word of God, and you will be safe. Blessings.
“It has often been charged… that Catholicism is overlaid with many pagan incrustations. Catholicism is ready to accept that accusation and even to make it her boast… the great god Pan is not really dead, he is baptized” — The Story of Catholicism p 37.
This is a deadly blow to the church. A denomination cannot be Christian if they are following satan. You cannot eat the supper of the Lord at the devil's table. I pray you will seek truth. Amen.
What seems is that you don't recognize that the early Christians - and esp. the Early Church Fathers (ECF), were Catholic in understanding, even if that term was coined yet.
And if Sola Scriptura is correct, then it must say so in the Bible; that the Bible is the only source of God's word. But nowhere in the Bible does it say such a thing.
Read this to understand more: b i t . l y / g O h S h 0
The word "Catholic" means universal. Sure, the early apostles were sound in their faith, But you are mis-applying the term. History tells us, that the Catholic church came out of, and after the Roman empire. (The prophecy is in Daniel 7, and 2.) First came the Babylonian empire, then Medes/Persians, Greece, Rome, then the holy roman empire, which was the ten kingdoms, with three that were uprooted. Papal rome came after the Caesars in Rome, this is a historical fact.
Sola Scriptura is biblical. Jesus condemned man-made traditions that went against his word (Matthew 15:9, Mark 7:9, Colossians 2:8) Jesus said to search the scriptures, but not tradition. 1 Peter 1:18 says we are not redeemed by the vain tradition of the fathers, but by the precious blood of Christ. Acts 20:20, Paul kept back nothing that was profitable for the people. 2 Thessalonians 2:15 says hold to the tradition received by his *epistle*, so it must be biblical. MAN-MADE tradition is heresy.
Why does the maker of this video feel the need to hide behind computer animated puppets and computer voices, when a simple recorded conversation between himself and a knowledgeable Catholic would suffice?
No, It is not deceptive. I have been a Catholic before. I Know what they teach. Don't be misguided... All those doctrines that go against God's word are from satan. History confirms my point. Truth is, The RCC admits they follow ancient pagan rituals of Babylon, and there are many quotes by their own leaders and institutions that prove they are apostate. I wish you no harm, just to study the Bible for yourself. Good day, and God bless.
I notice that you did not answer my question. Why the computer puppet show. In this animation, you have written both parts and act as both interviewer and interviewee. Thus, like me, other people can see the inherent dishonesty in this.
I notice also that any comment I or anyone else wishes to post here first requires your approval - another sign that you do not wish a fair and honest discussion. Please continue to study the Bible and learn who Satan really is
Incorrect. I am simply using xtranormal to convey a point. I am not afraid of conversation. Quite the contrary. I have the sources to back it up.
you are wrong about the comment approval. I do this because I simply do not want to waste time. I don't want to hear the same lies over and over again. Titus 3:10 declares to reject heretics if they keep rejecting the truth. I would suggest that you *really* study the scriptures (John 5:39) and see which churches satan has infiltrated. Good day.
There are lots of complaints about the video but no REFUTATION I thought the video was concise & to the point, it was an honest response to the false Satanic System of RCC
RCs can search the bible in vain to try and find such fantasy doctrines as a N/T sacrificial priesthood or Mary conceived without sin, or multitudes of other fantasy teachings
Rome has only infallibly interpreted approx 7 verses in scripture, the rest of the bible is uncharted waters to them What RC really believes Romans 1:16
This is proof positive that you did NOT study the Bible. Have you even ever read it? It seems you are either rejecting the Bible, or don't care. Most of the Catholic doctrine cannot be found in the Bible. Sunday Sabbath, Veneration of images (idolatry) glorification/assumption/Immaculate conception/perpetual virginity of Mary, Canonization of saints, Authority/Forgivesness of sins/Vicar of Christ/ Worship of pope, Transubstantiation, etc. are all Pagan is origin. The Catholic church admits this.
Cardinal Newman admits in his book that; the "temples, incense, oil lamps, votive offerings, holy water, Holidays, and seasons of devotion, processions, blessings of the fields, sacerdotal vestments, the tonsure (of priests, munks and nuns), images, and statues... are all of PAGAN ORIGIN." -The Development of the Christian Religion p 359.
Rome was called new Babylon because it adopted it's practices. That is from Cardinal Gibbons, Fatih of our Fathers, 1917 ed. page 106.
@Jesusisthetruevine calling the Church pagan means the bible is also pagan... deal with it... you filter comments? no wonder... you fear comments will disprove youre validity.... shameful really,
Sorry, the Catholic church does not follow the Bible 100%. Jesus said unless you forsake all, ye cannot be my disciple. (Luke 14:33)
Far from the truth, my friend. I fear nothing, especially people's comments that are not scriptural. I have nothing to be afraid of, I just do not want to waste time. I already heard all those catholic apologetic statements, none of them are true or scriptural. Face it, Catholicism follows her own tradition, and not the Bible. Calling the Bible pagan is blasphemy.
@Jesusisthetruevine yes, you blaspheme the bible by calling the Catholic church pagan. thus you cannot use the bible against her authors (The Catholic Church).
Its like calling Islam a false religion using the Quran, its like disproving Mormonism using the book of Mormon... The bible and the Catholic Church is inseparable.
Wrong. You are the one who is blaspheming, my friend. CC follows tradition above the Bible.(Worshipping another false God.(tradition)
How can you claim that the CC wrote the Bible, when they did not even EXIST till after the roman empire? That is not true. CC does not even follow the Bible, thus sealing it's apostasy and hypocrisy. Revelation was completed around 95-96 Ad, hundreds of years before CC existed, Sorry friend. Follow Jesus and the word, and you will be safe.
You are not aware of what your own church teaches. CC teaches blasphemy. Read Isaiah 8:20. Mary and the saints are all dead, praying to Mary or any other dead saint is praying to a fallen angel. The dead know nothing.
"The Pope is not only the representative of Jesus Christ, he is Jesus Christ himself" -Catholic National July 1895.
Blasphemy.
Catechism #1192 says statues awake and nourish faith. (Pg. 337,)
The Bible says it is FAITH, that comes by hearing the Word (Romans 10:17)
@Jesusisthetruevine If you read history carefully, you will see that often if a king had to leave his country (for any reason) he would appoint a prime minister or vicar to run the country FOR him whilst he was away. The pope serves the same function. He is a Vicar of Christ, acting AS Christ but not Christ himself. Can you provide a link to the ACTUAL article so we can read it in context rather than copy pasting from anti-catholic sites?
John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the HOLY GHOST, whom the Father will send in my name, HE SHALL TEACH YOU all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Pope John XXII: "To believe that our Lord God the Pope has not the power to decree as he is decreed, is to be deemed heretical." (The Gloss of Extravagantes of Pope John XXII, Cum. Inter, title 14, chapter 4, "Ad Callem Sexti Decretalium")
Your history is wrong. Face it, the CC teaches unbiblical doctrine. Do not be deceived, friend! Jesus loves you! Please follow him for your salvation.
"The Pope is not only the representative of Jesus Christ, but he is Jesus Christ, Himself, hidden under the veil of flesh." (Catholic National, July 1895)
Pope Pius V: "The Pope and God are the same, so he has all power in Heaven and earth." (Pope Pius V, quoted in Barclay, Cities Petrus Bertanous Chapter XXVII: 218.)
@Jesusisthetruevine given that youve never given the links to the OFFICIAL documents you have posted, Catholics nor the Bishops nor the Pope has ever believed that the pope is God/Jesus. Who are you to dictate our doctrine better than a catholic? lol. Some anti-catholics are just tempted to 'remodel' the things officially stated without anything to support it.
I am proud to say i and my brothers worship Him and Him ALONE.
I did give you the source. Stop denying the evidence! The truth is clear, that the CC does not follow the Bible. Just accept truth. The Bereans searched the scriptures daily, "not tradition."
Take for example the Sabbath. Jesus never changed the Sabbath, nor the apostles. The ten commandments will never be changed (Matthew 5:18, Psalm 11:7-8, Malachi 3:6, Psalm 89:34) yet Rome claims to have "changed" it. This is a manmade TRADITION, which has zero grounds in scripture.
"All names which in the Scriptures are applied to Christ, by virtue of which it is established that He is over the church, all the same names are applied to the Pope." - On the Authority of the Councils, book 2, chapter 17
"This judicial authority will even include the power to forgive sin." [The Catholic Encyclopaedia Vol xii, article ‘Pope’ pg 265]
"...superior papal authority and dominion is derived from the law of the Caesars." Lucius Ferraris, in "Prompta Bibliotheca Canonica, Juridica, Moralis, Theologica, Ascetica, Polemica, Rubristica, Historica", Volume V, article on "Papa, Article II", titled "Concerning the extent of Papal dignity, authority, or dominion and infallibility", #19, published in Petit-Montrouge (Paris) by J. P. Migne, 1858 edition.
Did you know that the CC admits that they are Babylon?
"It has often been charged... that Catholicism is overlaid with many pagan incrustations. Catholicism is ready to accept that accusation - and even to make it her boast... the great god Pan is not really dead, he is baptized" -The Story of Catholicism p 37
The penetration of the religion of Babylon became so general and well known that Rome was called the "New Babylon." -Faith of our fathers 1917 ed. Cardinal Gibbons, p. 106
Then you are *not* believing the evidence. Did you even read the quotes I gave you? I seems you have a hard time admitting that the church is wrong.
"In order to attach to Christianity great attraction in the eyes of the nobility, the priests adopted the outer garments and adornments which were used in pagan cults." -Life of Constantine, Eusabius, cited in Altai-Nimalaya, p. 94
"The Church did everything it could to stamp out such 'pagan' rites, but had to capitualet and allow the rites to continue with only the name of the local diety changed to some Christian saint's name." -Religious Tradition and Myth. Dr. Edwin Goodenough, Professor of Religion, Harvard University. p. 56, 57
In Stanley's History, page 40: "The popes filled the place of the vacant emperors at Rome, inheriting their power, their prestige, and their titles from PAGANISM."
It does not matter. You are still mistaken. The Bible was already completed in manuscript by around 95 AD. I already told you this. It does not matter if the Catholic church "organized" the books of the Bible or not. It was already written. Translating into their own version (Sinaticus Vaticanus) does not match the Textus Receptus manuscripts. So no, the CC did NOT write the Bible, they simply made their own translation of a bad manuscript. See thirdangelsmessage(dot)com, and "The Beast" video.
Daniel 7:25 says that the beast will think to change "times and laws" This is exactly what CC claims.
"The Pope is of great authority and power that he can modify, explain, or interpret even divine laws... The Pope can modify divine law, since his power is not of man, but of God, and he acts as vicegerent of God upon earth." -Lucius Ferraris, Prompta Ribliotheca, "Papa," art. 2, translated.
Arguing like this is not good. We both know that the CC is wrong. Be honest. I mean you no harm, friend. Jesus still loves you, and all of us. I was just telling you the truth that the church cant save. Only Jesus can save (John 14:6, Acts 4:12) remember, It is the precious blood of Christ that redeems, and * not * the tradition that you received of your fathers ( 1 Peter 1 :18-19) Jesus condemned tradition (Matthew 15:9, Colossians 2:8, Mark 7:9) that goes against his word.
@Jesusisthetruevine thank you sososososososossososo much for this video. I would have never found out the truth on my own. I have a wuestion. How does one study the Bible?
"Not the Creator of Universe, in Genesis 2:1-3,-but the Catholic Church can claim the honor of having granted man a pause to his work every seven days."-S. C. Mosna, Storia della Domenica, 1969, pp. 366-367.
Blasphemy.
"The authority of the church could therefore not be bound to the authority of the Scriptures, because the Church had changed...the Sabbath into Sunday, not by command of Christ, but by its own authority." Canon and Tradition, p. 263
Do you realize what you are saying? The Catholic church teaches "veneration" of saints. Veneration and worship is the same thing. It says in Canon Law #1187 that saints can be venerated. This teaching is NOT in the Bible. Cornelius tried to worship Peter, but he forbad it. (Acts 10-25-26) John fell and worshipped the angel, but the angel also forbad it. (Revelation 19:10, & 22: 8-9)
There are many pictures of the pope bowing before Mary statues. Leviticus 26:1 condemns bowing before an idol.
I mean you no harm - Jesus still loves you, and he calls all out of the compromising system (Revelation 18:4) I am just telling you the truth because those practices do not glorify God. Pray, and invite Christ through the Bible into your life. May God bless you, and keep yiu in truth.
No, Sunday is not the Biblical Sabbath. "Sun" day came about by manmade tradition. This is what the historical facts provide. Sun worship goes back to Babylon. I am not talking about people worshipping the sun on sunday, but it is interesting that the sun was venerating in ancient Babylon, and It is disturbing to think that a simple man can change the almighty Creator's holy law.
I go to church on the 7th day. (Saturday) Sure, It is not a sin to go to church on Sunday (the first day of the week) or Monday, Tuesday, or Wednesday for that matter. But when a religious organization replaces the Bible 7th day Sabbath was a first day tradition, then things go wrong. Seriously wrong. You can even read in the Bible, Jesus had a custom of preaching on the Sabbath, and healing people on the Sabbath, so did the apostles spread the word. Nothing Is said to make the first day "holy."
This video simply lies about the Catholic Faith - it's just ignorant straw-man propaganda. See BaronGrackle's videos for a balanced (not even pro-Catholic!) viewpoint.
I disagree strongly. If you honestly believe thta this video is misrepresenting Catholicism, then you did not even study their teachings. I used to be catholic, and a lot of the doctrine is manmade traditions, which are taken out of context based on erroneous portions of the Bible. You either follow the Bible, or you don't. It is really that simple.
Wrong. The Catholic church did NOT give us the Bible. Study your history. They just created their own translation based off latin vulgate, they changed scripture to try to fit their own belief.(documented)The Bible was wrote by the PROPHETS, and Catholicism did not exist until after the roman empire. How can you claim they gave us the Bible, when they don't even follow it? That would be the most hypocritical church on earth. I do not mean wrong. It is the church that's wrong, NOT the people.
Yes, I do. Apparently you do not know from whence the Bible is. The last book of the Bible was finished by around 96 A.D, long before the RCC. Remember, Papal Rome came from pagan Rome. This is documented in history, The popes, etc all copied things from the caesars. That is why they call it "Roman" Catholicism, because it came out of all the old world of pagan Rome. Arguing is pointless, really. If you do not want to acknowledge this fact, then maybe it would be good to stop arguing. Thank you.
You are still not understanding. The Bible was written by the prophets, and was translated by certain protestants into English. The Bible was already complete, we did not need the church. I really do not want to waste my time, since you are close minded about this. Whatever. Believe what you wish, but If you believe the CC gave us the Bible, consider it to be a contradiction, because they don't even teach or follow the Bible fully.
After being Protestant for over 40 years, I actually came to the Catholic Church from the Bible my friend. You don't understand this - but Christianity will never make sense outside of ONE authoritative Church - and that Church is the Roman Catholic Church. Yes, the same Church that put the Bible together has the authority to interpret it.
You are just blinded. I have no more interest in talking to you. No, The Bible stands AS IS. It is God's word, and no "church" that teaches contrary to God's word is the true church. Sad, but true. You can believe what you want, but you are not believing the truth. Please do not waste time here. Good day.
Did you notice that BaronGrackle has re-done this video - but ACCURATELY represented the Catholic side? You cannot answer these questions of course; you can only "refute" a false straw-man that you purposely set up.
Go ahead and block me for simply telling it like it is. Since the Truth is not on your side - and you don't seem too open to it - you probably don't have any other option.
That is your own OPINION. He may well have identified the Catholic faith, but it still fails because It goes against the Bible. Enough arguing. Everything in this video is true and Biblical. The truth is sadly not is your favour. I am tired of repeating the same thing. Take your comments elsewhere, or STUDY the scriptures. Remember, Jesus told us to study the SCRIPTURES (John 5:39, Acts 20:20) NOT "tradition." Have a nice day.
Besides Matt 16:18 there are over a dozen biblical passages pointing to the leadership of St. Peter. Peter is the only person that Jesus refers to when using the first person plural pronoun "us". There are 20,000+ protestant churches founded by people who thought they knew what the Bible means.
Matthew 16:18 does not refer to Peter. In greek, it is petra. It is not petros, used for Peter. How can that be, when Jesus imediately rebuked Peter, calling him satan in a few verses later? That would be an insult to Christ, as if Peter was the foundation, he just failed. It does not make sense.
@Jesusisthetruevine no. Christ spoke to apostles in aramaic not grk. grk unlike aramaic has masculine and feminie usages for words. so in grk petros is used for peter because it is the masculine form of rock petra would not be used to describe a man in grk because its feminie. in aramaic no distinction. when matthew was translated from aramaic to grk arose this problem which didnt exist in aramaic so peters name was given masculine ending. thats all. so your argument does not stand
no, your point still fails. Peter is not the rock. Did you pay attention? Peter was called satan, which means that he was not the rock, that would be blasphemy against God. Anyway, Jesus is the chief cornerstone according to Ephesians 2:20, and the rock ( 1 Corinthians 10:34) so your point still does not make any sense.
@Jesusisthetruevine your point does not follow. he was rebuked so hes not rock? there is no cennection for u are quoting an incident having nothing to do with the text in question its not even the same scene. U have to deal with fact that the clear reading of the text is that Christ called peter rock. Peter is even called kephas later in NT. and his name was not even peter it was simon! it was changed by Jesus in matthew when he gave him that name which meant rock. no avoiding it
If Peter was the rock, then why was he rebuked? Not a good rock if you ask me. He instantly failed his task, which does not make sense, Cephas is a different greek word than Petra, in Matthew 16:18. It is petros, or stone. Not the same rock. Many people had their names changed. Nathaniel was also named Bartholomew, In Acts, John was surnamed "Mark", Levi was also renamed as Matthew, James and John were known as the "sons of thunder" Every believer will have a new name in heaven.
Yes, The Apostles broke bread DAILY. They met on Sunday, but they also met on Monday, Tuesday, and everyday of the week. They still kept the Sabbath, and there is still no Biblical mandate for keeping sunday. At all. Thanks.
@Jesusisthetruevine are u suggesting i have not? i know the bible quite well. and have come to conclusion, as many have, that catholic church is only one that has held to true teachings of christ. can u show me where i am wrong?
If you knew the Bible well, It would open your eyes and show you that the CC is not the true church of God. How can they be, when they teach traditions of men, rather than the commandments of God? This makes me think that you are not being honest, or you have not studied as you claimed. Most teachings in the CC stem from paganism. Cardinal Newman, admits this in the book "The Development of the Christian Religion" p 359. Also in "Faith of our fathers" 1917 page 106 - Rome is called New Babylon.
@Jesusisthetruevine Cardinal newman never said that Church's doctrines rely upon traditions of men. what he meant is the same thing u believe. All the foundations of our faith were there from beginning though took many centuriues for us to gain deeper understanding. ex. trinity was beliebed since day one, but by no means was it understood as deeply as it is oday. over time with study we gain deeper understanding of things always believed we gain more insights eyc. thats aall newman meant
But didn't the Lord Jesus Christ rise from the dead on the "first day of the week"? Last I checked, that would have been Sunday. They were coming to the tomb to do work, and as they were still keeping the sabbath then, they would not have come to do work on Saturday. So Sunday is hallowed by the Lord's rising. See also Acts 20:7. Saturday is a matter of individual conscience, but we are free from the requirement of the old sabbath observance under the New Covenant of Christ.
The commandments of God can be changed. The Ten Commandments were not the only commandments given by God to be followed (there were 613 in the Torah). If you're sure that they can't be changed, why did God issue a new Covenant? (New covenant, new commandments). If you're right, then please explain why Jesus broke the Sabbath and taught others to do so in the Gospels? Jesus never lists the sabbath with the commandments when he lists them.
Blasphemy! Jesus kept the Sabbath. Read John 15:10. The JEWS said that Jesus broke the Sabbath ( John 5:18) Jesus broke Jewish MANMADE traditions about the Sabbath. They also claimed that Jesus was claiming to be God, which they thought was blasphemy. He was God, and thefore he did not break the Sabbath.
Jesus kept and fulfilled the Law. However I'm pointing out that he WORKED ON THE SABBATH. He also had other people do work on the sabbath. He healed and did so by doing "work" (making mud with his spittle and dust). He allowed his disciples to gather grain from a field when they were hungry on the sabbath. He told the crippled man he healed to pick up his mat and carry it (on the sabbath). Christ was Lord of the Sabbath. He was accused of breaking it, repeatedly.
@XSC3, And He Christ also explained that doing good works on the sabbath is a good thing. Therefore it is not considered work! Here's an example, if you go and visit someone in prision, or go to a nursing home to lend a hand, or a hosptial, these are considered good works.? Therefore He Christ is Lord of the Sabbath Day, you people need to stop taking God's words out of context, and read it as it is written to you. For God will not hold him guiltless who takes His words out of context.
No, The Roman church is full of lies. If you really studied the Bible, you would agree. Christ's true church follows God's Commandments, but Catholicism only follows 8 commandments, which means it is not the trye church. I am afraid this is sad, but true. God calls all his people of of Babylonian confusion before Jesus comes again (Revelation 18:4) I hope you will be willing to be made ready,
Rome claims to change the 7th day Sabbath of God to Sunday. This of course, is just a manmade tradition and cannot be found in the Bible at all. We ought to obey GOD rather than man. (Acts 5:29)
Incidentally if you want to say the "Church was apostate that changed the sabbath" keep in mind that you use the Bible with the New Testament in it. The New Testament canon was established by this very same church, while you claim they were apostate. So apostates get to set the limits of scripture for you? Interesting. Why would the holy spirit inspire them with truth in one category but be unable to save them from error in another less important one?
Our lady is not dead.
She ascended into heaven and was crowned as queen of heaven.
DarwynxRivver 7 months ago 22
The scriptures paint a different picture, brother. Mary is dead just like all others in their graves. The assumption of Mary is just that, an assumption. They presume and believe that she was lifted to heaven, but there is no valid evidence. It is a trap.
Mary is not the queen of heaven. She was a normal person like anyone else. The Catholic church attributes unnecessary veneration to Mary. Read Judges 5:24. Also, the Queen of heaven is actually a false babylonian idol. Read Jeremiah 17:18-19.
Jesusisthetruevine 7 months ago
The writings of Paul are heretical? Paul has his writings from the Lord. ( 1 Corinthians 14:37)
The saints are sleeping, they are not in heaven. Only a select few are in heaven, such as Moses and Elijah. David is not ascended into the heavens (Acts 2:34) All are in the graves, awaiting either eternal life, or eternal death. (John 5:28-29) Mary is also in the grave, and she had other children. (Mark 6:3)
Only God is immortal (1 Timothy 6:16) The soul that sins shall DIE (Ezekiel 18:4)
Jesusisthetruevine 7 months ago
so you even attack other christians? dosn't that seem counter productive to your own cause of getting eceryone to follow jesus?
satanourgod 10 months ago
I have stated numerous times, I am not attacking people. I am exposing errors and false doctrines that go against the scriptures, and Jesus. If you love someone, you would want to tell them the truth, not hide away and let it pass.
Jesusisthetruevine 10 months ago
@Jesusisthetruevine but the truth when it comes to spiritual sense is unknown by anyone but the dead, for all we know the catholics are the ones who got it right, and others are mistaken, or that christianity as a whole is wrong. no one knows till its too late, and their in the ground.
satanourgod 10 months ago
The dead know NOTHING (Ecclesiastes 9:5-6) They do not return (Jeremiah 22:10, Job 7:9-10) There is no more remembrance in death (Psalm 6:5) The dead's thoughts perish (Psalm 146:4) The dead praise not (Psalm 115:17) The spirit or breath returns to God at death (Ecclesiastes 12:7)
We know from the Bible, That the doctrines of Rome came from paganism. This is undeniable fact. Catholic theologians and historians agree. I can give you the sources if you like. The word of God is truth (John 17:17)
Jesusisthetruevine 10 months ago
@Jesusisthetruevine You haven't even provided proof.First of all JESUS send JIS apostles out to cast out demons and to forgive sins,Who these days does that in the name of JESUS? Catholics,
Here is a passage for you,John 20:19-31 and Matthew 10:5-10
4everjesusrules 9 months ago
No person can forgive sins. You are taking that verse out of context. Read Matthew 18:15-20. See the phrase "bound" and "loosed?" They are very similar to "retain" and "remitted" in John chapter 20. It has nothing to do with forgiving sins. The apostles were given the direction to preach the gospel. If they believed the gospel, their sins were remitted. If not, they were retained. Why does Catholicism teach they can forgive sins? The apostles never forgave sin, It can't be found in scripture.
Jesusisthetruevine 9 months ago
@Jesusisthetruevine Do an equivalent cartoon about the Protestants and I will be impressed. Until then, you're just another hypocrite, "loving" those people you really hate so much.
Christianity is the EVIL religion!
ChurchOfKali66619 8 months ago
I do not agree, friend. I love people, that is why the truth will set free. I do not hate. Can't you see?
Jesus told us to rejoice, and dance for joy, whenever one speaks evil against us falsely, for Jesus sake. Amen! Praise belongs only to God. If you are willing, you can also be free.
Jesusisthetruevine 8 months ago
Dialogue showing why Non Catholic Christians manmade doctrines and superstitions go contrary to Biblical teachings.
rldlol 10 months ago
lol! If you were "joking," that is not funny. The evidence is clear who follows manmade doctrines. How can you claim to follow the Bible, when you teach contrary to the Bible?
Jesusisthetruevine 10 months ago
They were the first Christian church, now your attacking of Christians, they were the original church, I'm pretty sure if anyone was right, it would be the church that was founded by a guy who actually knew Jesus personally. All Christian faiths stem from the catholic church, read some history and don't just think because someone's title is different than yours that their wrong, I was raised catholic, so I know what their teachings are, and guess what, they are EXACTLY the same as all other Chr
woonitu 10 months ago
Hello, Good day. All churches do NOT stem from the catholic church. I see that you did not study the Bible well. Most of the doctrines of the Catholic church contradict those of scripture. All it's influences come from babylonian paganism, and sun worship. They substitute manmade laws rather than God's commandments. The Bible condemns idolatry, it does not support it. Therefore, the Catholic church is not the church that follows The scriptures. You just can't have truth and error together.
Jesusisthetruevine 10 months ago
Yeah the truth church, the one that St Peter started was the catholic church, but it was not named like that until the second pope
kvn276 10 months ago
If they were the true church, then they would follow God's laws. Remember, we are told in the Epistles of John, If we have not the doctrine of Christ's, then we are not God's. God's true church is an uncompromising one, not one that teaches error. You can read about the "saints" in Revelation 14:12. May God bless you, and lead you in your search.
Jesusisthetruevine 10 months ago
This video is stupid, Catholicism is the right and all the other Christian denominations are just branches of the catholic church
kvn276 10 months ago 33
Sorry you feel that way. It is your opinion that this video is "stupid." However, The CC is not the first church. History tells us that The papacy came *after* the Caesars, ie. after the roman empire. The Catholic church did not exist 2000 years ago. Sorry, but you need to get the history straight. The true church was there in the apostles day, those who follow the Bible and Jesus. This is the true church. Read Revelation 14:12. Peace be with you.
Jesusisthetruevine 10 months ago
@kvn276 so you're saying even tho the catholic denomination opposes God's law, changes the truth, makes their own devil doctrines, completely ignore the words of the Bible, the Bible mentions of a false woman (church) who controls the beast (rome) and prosecutes the woman (true church) just like in the dark ages when true followers of Jesus and the Gospel were killed and torture which is mentioned in revelation , the catholic church is the right church?
12345soccerguy 7 months ago
@kvn276 The church breaking off from cathoism is called the REFORMATION for a reason. The catholic church might have been correct at the beginning, but the pope quickly gave into temptation to corrupt it during the dark ages. The pope took advantage of illiterate followers and changed God's laws to fit his own selfish needs. Even after the reformation, the catholic church STILL refuses to change! They have blinded their followers and turned them against their Savior!
TheTrojantroy 6 months ago
@Jesusisthetruevine "the very great, the very ancient, and universally known Church founded and organized at Rome by the two most glorious apostles, Peter and Paul; as also [by pointing out] the faith preached to men, which comes down to our time by means of the successions of the bishops. For it is a matter of necessity that every Church should agree with this Church, on account of its preeminent authority" - St Irenaeus around 150 A.D. long b4 Constantine and Christianity was legal in Rome
gtepp031387 10 months ago
@Jesusisthetruevine LOL you use some 1900s historian over the people who were actually there LOL.. Im rolling on the floor
gtepp031387 10 months ago
"The letters inscribed in the Pope's miter are these 'VICARIUS FILII DEI'. which is the Latin for 'VICAR OF THE SON OF GOD.' Catholics hold that the church, which is a visible society, must have a visible head. Christ, before his ascension into heaven, appointed St. Peter to act as His representative... Hence to the Bishop of Rome, as head of the church, was given the title, 'VICAR OF CHRIST'." Our Sunday Visitor, (Catholic Weekly) "Bureau of information," Huntington, Ind., April 18, 1915.
Jesusisthetruevine 10 months ago
In case you did not notice, they are Catholic articles, admitting to heresy. Lord, have mercy.
The Pope's titles add up to 666. Could this be a coincidence? No.. It was well expected.
The penetration of the religion of Babylon became so general and well known that Rome was called the "New Babylon." (Faith of our fathers 1917 ed. Cardinal Gibbons, p. 106)
Jesusisthetruevine 10 months ago
"In these last days God hath spoken to us by his son Ignatius, (Jesuit founder) whom he hast appointed Heir of all thing, by whom also he made the world. (Preached by F. Doza J.S., "The Firey Jesuits," p, 66)
Blasphemy.
The Pope is not only the representative of Jesus Christ, he is Jesus Christ himself, hidden under the veil of flesh." Catholic National July 1895.
Jesusisthetruevine 10 months ago
why do you attack catholics? why we dont go on the streets preaching we stay in our church and keep to ourselfs we do not attack other churches becuase we accept other people why do you attack us when we keep to oursevles we didnt bother you. and isnt got the only one to judge if you were a real christian then why are you juding catholics. just stop
jfabproductions 10 months ago
I am not attacking Catholics - just the false doctrines that the church spreads. It is a dishonor to claim to follow the Bible, and not do so. I am just smashing the walls of falsehood, with the hammer of the word.
Jesusisthetruevine 10 months ago
I am Catholic, and I firmly love Jesus as my Lord.
I love the way that I get to worship Jesus in the liturgy. I love that I get to be one with my Savior in communion. I love that I get to listen to His beautiful words in the gospel reading, and hear of more ways I can love others like He did intentionally and sacrificially. The life as a disciple is not easy, but He makes it worth it.
If I am receiving so much of our Lord in this way of worshiping Him, what is wrong with that to you?
gills77 10 months ago
That is good to hear, friend. I am glad you enjoy the fellowship, and the Lord. See, there are precious Catholics and people from all denominations that could be saved, maybe they were just misinformed. I must say though, that it is possible to worship God in vain. (Matthew 15:9) Perhaps you are truly seeking the light of God's word and his will. Jesus tells all to forsake the manmade traditions, and follow his truth. They who worship, must worship in spirit and truth. (John 4:24)
Jesusisthetruevine 10 months ago
A most excellent, excellent video! This is the truth of truth. Such a wonderful work.
mrblacksheep1o1 11 months ago
@mrblacksheep1o1 This is a complete lie. Jesus gave the apostels the ability to forgive and retain sins. Petros is the masculin term for rock, petra is the feminim term for rock. Just as you would use a masuline term for a place or thing in spanish but the oppiste in greek. To say he is right would mean that all the church fathers would be wrong. I think I'll stick to the interpritation of thoes who actually knew the apostels and what they taught, like Ignatious,and Clement.
gtepp031387 10 months ago
That is a blatant lie, gtepp031387. Mark 2:7, Luke 5:21 could not be more clear. Only God can forgive sin. Daniel 9:9 states that forgiveness belongs to the Lord. Read Acts Chapter 8. Simon the sorcerer told Peter to ask God to forgive and pray for his forgiveness, Peter did not forgive his sins. It is not found in the Bible. There is no record of the Apostles forgiving sins- a manmade tradition. I pray that you will consider this holy truth. We are not to take God's place. Peace be with you.
Jesusisthetruevine 10 months ago
@Jesusisthetruevine "Whose sins YOU forgive are forgiven them, and whose sins YOU retain are retained." (John 20:23) Further more anyone who doubts that the apostels are one with and in the LORD has not listen well to John 17:20-24. Jesus gave all authority to bind and loose to the apostels. Who with this authority built a phsyical church and left phsyical sucessores(Bishops) to take over there office and ministy. "whoever opposes the bishop does in reality serve the devil" St Ignatious 88 A.D
gtepp031387 10 months ago
"YOU" have taken this scripture out of context. I already told you, only God can forgive sin, and there is NO example in the Bible of apostles forgiving sins, which proves the CC teaching is a lie of satan.
Ignatius was mistaken. If one goes against God's word, they are serving evil. Ignatius did not study his Bible. We read in Isaiah 8:20 that if any speak not according to the scriptures, there is no light in them. It is better to trust the Lord, than to put confidence in men. (Psalm 118:8)
Jesusisthetruevine 10 months ago
@Jesusisthetruevine Ignatious was mistaken LOL.He was taught and ordained face to face by the apostels.. your lost. You have no authority,unlike Ignatious to hold the teaching as"no scripture is a matter of personal interpritation" 2Peter 1:20 Therfore i will take the interpritation of the united church at ecumentical council over your anyday as Peter has forwarned me about your kind. I will also take the word of thoes who knew the apostels face to face over your modern nightmare(church) anyday
gtepp031387 10 months ago
Exactly. No scripture is of any private interpretation. Rome has completely ignored this rule, by substituting manmade traditions above God's word. Why are you arguing? You are not defending the truth of God's word. I will pray that you will leave this deception. Brother, why fight against the Lord? God has sent a warning to all about the fate of the roman church in Revelation 18. If you truly love God, then you will heed the message. Peace be upon you.
Jesusisthetruevine 10 months ago
Face to face? that is funny. I am not lost, friend. You would have the beam in your own eye. Jesus warns us in his holy word against hypocrites. I highly suggest you search. He must have forgotten everything they said, because the teachings are not true. Obviously not. Have you heard of Polycarp? He was a close friend of the apostle John. When he heard the Bishop of Rome teaching others to keep sunday, he went to Rome and disagreed. So you are wrong about his "face to face" relationship.
Jesusisthetruevine 10 months ago
I hate to say this, but you are not representing God. You are standing for manmade myths, which supports God's enemy.
"Out of the ruins of political Rome, arose the great moral Empire in the 'giant form' of the Roman Church."--A.C. Flick, The Rise of the Mediaeval Church, 1909, p. 150.
"The popes filled the place of the vacant emperors at Rome, inheriting their power, their prestige, and their titles from PAGANISM." (Stanley's History, Page 40.)
Jesusisthetruevine 10 months ago
"It is interesting to note how often our Church has availed herself of practices which were in common use among pagans...Thus it is true, in a certain sense, that some Catholic rites and ceremonies are a reproduction of those of pagan creeds...." (The Externals of the Catholic Church, Her Government, Ceremonies, Festivals, Sacramentals and Devotions, by John F. Sullivan, p 156, published by P.J. Kennedy, NY, 1942)
Sorry, but this is blasphemy. Be honest with yourself here, please.
Jesusisthetruevine 10 months ago
@Jesusisthetruevine Just read the early church fathers who were taught and ordained directly by the apostels like Clement and Ignatious and you will see your church is a modern nightmare. You reject the apotels teaching and decisions and as so you do not believe in Jesus, becaues if you did you would believe in the ones he sent, the apostels.
gtepp031387 10 months ago
It is not I that reject Jesus, my friend. I am not interested in what the "church father's" said. If they reject the scriptures, they they are NOT of God. The Apostles would never accept those false teachings, of CC. Show me ONE scripture, that Jesus exalted "tradition." I am waiting... you cannot. Jesus told us to search the scriptures (John 5:39) It is obvious that CC follows paganism. They admit to worshipping Baal/Pan. It is in the story of Catholicism page 37. Find it. Blessings.
Jesusisthetruevine 10 months ago
The only things I disagree with on here is saying that infant's cannot be baptized (even though the faith of the parents and sponser/godparents and the promise to bring them up in the faith addressed this) and the child will hopefully, someday make a profession of faith in Christ and His teachings in a confirmation, which would validate said baptism.
That, and I believe Christ is somehow mysteriously present in the Communion elements, but not through transubstantiation.
rjky1986 11 months ago
-The requiring people to refrain from eating meat on Fridays in Lent is also a made up Tradition. Fasting is advocated in Scripture, that's fine, but this is in regards to the church authority admonishing its laity to not eat meat, period, on those days, not just fast.
-The condemnation of contraception in the Roman church, isn't based in solid or clear evidence in Scripture, and considering the society of the past 60 years, no basis in reason either. Women should not be forced to have 13 kids.
rjky1986 11 months ago
-Purgatory cannot be defended in Scripture, not even with the one vague verse in the Epistles commonly used in Roman Catholic apologetics about "as through fire". This is in reference to an individuals works "the person will be saved, but only as through fire", which is in regards to someone's works in life were and what their "foundation" is, not necessarily the "stains" of past sins now forgiven that are being "burned up" in Purgatory.
rjky1986 11 months ago
-Linked to mandatory private confession, it doesn't necessarily have to be a priest; confession could be done to any Christian. Also, prayer to Mary (Hail Mary's) should not have to be done to receive final absolution of sins as a penance. You are forgiven when you confess (to God) your sins and trying to turn from them.
-Forced Clerical celibacy is not scriptural, St. Paul himself calls forbidding of marriage a "doctrine of devils". This was a Tradition made up in the Middle Ages.
rjky1986 11 months ago
No, not everything about the Roman church is in the Bible.
Transubstantiation is not in there; the concept of Christ becoming, in some way, present within the Communion elements is true (at least to me), but it is not described or explained how, therefore it remains "a divine mystery".
Confession to another person can be found in Scripture, but not mandatory confession under penalty of another sin added onto you.
rjky1986 11 months ago
this video is hilarious.
"but the Pope bows down to Mary's statues."
hahaha... love it.
DoctorLevison 11 months ago
Has it occured to you that the statement may have been directed to the devil who was tempting St. Peter and not really to Peter himself? Also, you have 1st and 2nd Peter that obviously aren't written by Satan but Peter himself. Also, Jesus hands the key to the kingdom over to Peter, not Satan. God bless!
1dogsamson 11 months ago
Jesus has the keys again in Revelation 1:18. The keys given to Peter was to preach the gospel, with which we are saved. (Romans 1:16) Jesus would never give keys to an apostate power, I hate to say this. If Peter were alive today, he would not accept for one second the doctrines of the CC. I mean you no harm, but you still have to face the facts. Lukewarm in scripture is not good, Read Revelation chapter 3. Thanks.
Jesusisthetruevine 11 months ago
very well done
seal22yo 1 year ago
So which Protestant denomination of Christianity is right?
/watch?v=3_aIeggWTUQ
AveMariaFilms 1 year ago
I am sorry, AveMaria, I respectfully disagree. The CC is full of good/sincere people, But it is not the church on which Christ built. Matthew 16:18 uses different Greek words, and Christ is referred to as the rock in scripture (1 Corinthians 10:4) Christ was saying Peter's confession, his saying of that truth that Jesus was the Christ, on which he would build his church. Jesus then rebuked Peter, calling him "satan." So much for Peter being the rock, hell already prevailed if that was the case.
Jesusisthetruevine 1 year ago
@Jesusisthetruevine
The book of Matthew was originally written in Aramaic and not Greek. The petras/petra argument doesn't hold water. I learned this as an undergrad at Biola University which is made up mostly of Baptists. I think most of us held your position at the start but it is clear that Jesus was referring to Peter when He said 'upon this rock, I will build my church.' I, for one, am taking a much closer look at the teaching of the Catholic Church.
walt4lori 11 months ago
Jesus was not referring to Peter. Jesus is the rock referred to in scripture. (1 Corinthians 10:4, Ephesians 2:20)
If Peter was the "rock,"then why did Jesus rebuke him, and call him "satan" a few verses after? So much for the gates of hell not prevailing over the rock... this interpretation makes no sense at all.
Study all day, you will find that many of CC doctrines are not Biblical. Peace, and May God bless you with the truth.
Jesusisthetruevine 11 months ago
@Jesusisthetruevine "Jesus was not referring to Peter"
It's kind of comical how Protestants misinterpret a Catholic Book and then tell Catholics "what it means."
There is no Catholic doctrine which contradicts the Bible, and there is nothing in the Bible that contradicts a Catholic doctrine. Why would there be? It's a Catholic Book.
Protestants follow man-made beliefs that are less than 500 years old. For example Sola Fide, Sola Scriptura, being "born again," denying the presence in Eucharist
WorkingCatholic 11 months ago
The Bible is definitely not a catholic book. All the scriptures were completed in the 1st century. The CC came out of the roman empire, which was historically after. Do your research. Most of the catholic doctrines contradict the scriptures. How can you blatantly refuse truth? Jesus said to search the scriptures, and condemned manmade tradition. The Eucharist is not the literal body, that's an abomination against God. Eating flesh and drinking blood is forbidden ( Lev 17:14, 19:26 7:26, Gen 9:4)
Jesusisthetruevine 11 months ago
@Jesusisthetruevine "The Eucharist is not the literal body, that's an abomination against God."
OR . . . you are a heretic. Are you calling Jesus a liar?
In Jn 6:51 He says, "I am the living bread that came down from heaven. Whoever eats this bread will live forever. This bread is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.”
So if the bread He gives is His flesh that He "will give for the life of the world," is the flesh that hung on the cross not "the literal body?"
Just read it!
WorkingCatholic 11 months ago 3
No, that is what the Bible teaches. Obviously, Jesus is speaking *symbolically.* At the last supper, he said that the bread was his body. Were they eating a piece of literal flesh? Of course not. You are setting up a straw man, then avoiding it, and denying the truth! The bread ITSELF is not literal. Like I said, It would create a contradiction. I am not talking about the cross. Jesus also admitted that the wine, was still the "fruit of the vine" in Matthew 26:29. It was grape juice, not blood.
Jesusisthetruevine 11 months ago
@Jesusisthetruevine "Obviously, Jesus is speaking *symbolically.* At the last supper"
If this is "obvious" then why didn't even one person in all of history teach this until less than 500 years ago?
If this is "obvious" why is it a minority opinion?
If this is "obvious" why did Jesus say otherwise?
And why do you censor my comments? Does the truth hurt so much you must hide it from others?
WorkingCatholic 11 months ago 3
I feel sorry for you. Truth does not hurt, my friend It sets you free. (John 8:32) I get the sense that you take don't take the scripture seriously. The Jews thought they they were to partake of Jesus literal body and blood. That is why they said it was a "hard saying." Jesus then told him that the flesh means nothing, but the spirit quickens, and the words he was speaking were *spirit*, and truth. Jesus is using a metaphor. Just like he was claiming to be the door. It is a spiritual lesson.
Jesusisthetruevine 11 months ago
@Jesusisthetruevine "Jesus is speaking *symbolically.*"
With your eternal destiny at stake, I think you are taking quite a risk to to take this position. Jesus says, "Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you." And your response is "Hah, I know better." Your pride and arrogance are your own worst enemies.
WorkingCatholic 11 months ago 12
Friend, you have it all wrong. You don't have to worry about me, I would ask that you examine your unbiblical doctrines. None of it is biblical, at all. Visit biblelight(dot)net/vatican.htm. It is very informative and truthful about the papal system.
Clearly, you let the truth in one ear, and out the other. Jesus is speaking symbolically. Period. Are we to be cannibals?? NO! you are passing false judgment! You have been blinded by your religion. I will pray for you, to see the light of Christ.
Jesusisthetruevine 11 months ago
@Jesusisthetruevine "Jesus is speaking symbolically. Period."
You'd rather be dead wrong than find the truth in Catholicism. That is very sad, and someday you will need to answer for it. There is no sin in being ignorant, but you are willfully ignorant. You chose to call Jesus a liar. We have a merciful God, but why test His limits? You choose man-made beliefs over the Word of God.
Why are you afraid to print my other posts?
WorkingCatholic 11 months ago
Stop wasting my time. You have to face facts. There is no absolute truth in Catholicism. I am not willfully ignorant, you choose not to see the truth, because there is a veil covering your eyes. Give me a break. Catholicism has man made beliefs, and you know it. The word of God will trump the CC in the end, you will see. Don't say I did not warn you.
I am not afraid. Stop posting ignorant, absurd comments and I will respond. STUDY the Bible, and leave CC and into God's church. Revelation 18:4.
Jesusisthetruevine 11 months ago
Common sense will tell you that is not true. Of course the bread is not the literal body of Christ! It is symbolic. So, Is Jesus a literal wooden door also? Was he a literal vine, with branches? Please be honest with yourself. Jesus said he will not drink the "fruit of the vine" at the last supper, referring to grape juice. Cannibalism is not acceptable. Drinking blood is condemned in the old testament. Thank you.
Jesusisthetruevine 7 months ago
@Jesusisthetruevine Part 1
"Common sense will tell you that is not true."
So, I guess that is where faith comes in. When God says something that defies your "common sense," it would "common sense" to forget about your common sense and believe Him.
All those who left Him in Jn 6:66 were following their common sense. They knew it was against Jewish law to drink blood. One year later at the Last Supper Jesus showed us what he meant by eating His flesh and exactly how it would be done.
WorkingCatholic 7 months ago
That is precisely my point, friend. The Jews KNEW that literal drinking of blood was an abomination, also stated by the Lord in Leviticus 17:12. So? If it were the literal blood we were to drink, then that would be abomination against God. Surely, Jesus would not contradict the Old testament?
That is why it is symbolic. The Jews thought about literal blood. He finally told them in John 6:63 that words he spake were SPIRIT, ie. symbolic meaning, because he knew they were offended.
Jesusisthetruevine 7 months ago
@Jesusisthetruevine Old Jewish law has no bearings on us now that the New Testament is written. Jesus said very clearly that the bread and wine are his very body and blood, if he meant it to be symbolic he would've said they are symbols. The mass celebrates the Eucharist on his command, "do this in memory of me." Only catholic clergy and consecrate the bread and blood by their lineage from the apostles. Study your theology, stop taking biblical verses out of context, and CONVERT!!
bniagara 7 months ago
Certain ceremonial laws and washings do not apply today. But, the bread and wine are obviously symbolic. Fruit of the vine refers to the grape juice that he used, brother. The conception of the mass is distorted from scripture. What are you saying? The catholic church did not exist until 200-300's A.D. The scriptures were already written by 96 AD. That is when John wrote the last book of the Bible, Revelation. History confirms this. God calls us OUT of Babylon, not into it. (Rev 18:4) Study!!
Jesusisthetruevine 7 months ago
@Jesusisthetruevine False, wine is what was drunk at suppers in those days, and it was the case at the initiation of the Eucharist. And actually, Jesus initiated the Catholic Church when he gave the keys to the kingdom of heaven to Peter, on whom the Church is built. You follow the flawed teachings of Luther and other revolutionaries when you should be following infallible Church Teaching. You do not have the power or the will to interpret the Word of God, only the magisterium of the RCC can.
bniagara 7 months ago
Again, you fail to realise that statement is false. The Greek word "oinos" can refer to grape juice. Did Jesus make gallons upon gallons of raw alcohol? Preposterous. The savior would never do that. Jewish weddings could last a few days at a time. "Petros" and "Petra" are two different words for rock. Christ is the rock. (1 Cor. 10:4)
Jesus has the keys in Revelation. I follow the Bible, not a church tradition. Church is not infallible!! The word of God is. ( 2 Tim 3:16)
Jesusisthetruevine 7 months ago
@Jesusisthetruevine That is a recent invention Vine. If people drank grape juice in the first century, they would die due to bacteria. This is why throughout history, until our present time, they drank fermented drink. Germs can't live in alcohol. LOL! You are a typical modernist fundamentalist!
redeemerslove 7 months ago
Why are you laughing, friend? You are worried about "germs," when The Bible forbids alcohol? Germs may not live in alcohol, but the holy spirit cannot live in a body that is defiled by poisonous alcoholic beverage! You should know better, friend. It defiles the temple of God, which we are. Defiling the bodily temple is not part of God's will. It is not a laughing matter. Cast away all that foolishness, and read 1 Corinthians 6:19-20, and 3:16
Jesusisthetruevine 7 months ago
@AveMariaFilms There is not to be denominations. We that are born again are of Jesus Christ and have been blessed with his Holy Spirit. Anyone who does not give up there life to the Lord Jesus cannot be born again. You must accept him as Lord and saviour and give your life unto him and live for him and let him guide you in every deceision that you make. It is a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. If you do not have that, then you are not a Christian. Amen.
RaptureOrTribulation 1 year ago
@AveMariaFilms John 3:3 (King James Version) 3Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
RaptureOrTribulation 1 year ago
The OP is clearly a Sola Scripturist, which we know to be wrong.
JugglingReferee 1 year ago
OP? Seems like you did not study your Bible. No, Sola Scriptura is not wrong. Jesus condemned manmade traditions that went against his word (Matthew 15:9 Mark 7:9, Colossians 2:8) Jesus told us to search the scriptures (John 5:39) and not tradition. Don't follow the path of Babylon. It will perish. Follow the word of God, and you will be safe. Blessings.
Jesusisthetruevine 1 year ago
@Jesusisthetruevine Yada yada yada. Heard those arguments before. Good luck to you.
JugglingReferee 1 year ago
Do you know the doctrines of the CC? Listen...
“It has often been charged… that Catholicism is overlaid with many pagan incrustations. Catholicism is ready to accept that accusation and even to make it her boast… the great god Pan is not really dead, he is baptized” — The Story of Catholicism p 37.
This is a deadly blow to the church. A denomination cannot be Christian if they are following satan. You cannot eat the supper of the Lord at the devil's table. I pray you will seek truth. Amen.
Jesusisthetruevine 1 year ago 2
@Jesusisthetruevine
What seems is that you don't recognize that the early Christians - and esp. the Early Church Fathers (ECF), were Catholic in understanding, even if that term was coined yet.
And if Sola Scriptura is correct, then it must say so in the Bible; that the Bible is the only source of God's word. But nowhere in the Bible does it say such a thing.
Read this to understand more: b i t . l y / g O h S h 0
JugglingReferee 11 months ago
The word "Catholic" means universal. Sure, the early apostles were sound in their faith, But you are mis-applying the term. History tells us, that the Catholic church came out of, and after the Roman empire. (The prophecy is in Daniel 7, and 2.) First came the Babylonian empire, then Medes/Persians, Greece, Rome, then the holy roman empire, which was the ten kingdoms, with three that were uprooted. Papal rome came after the Caesars in Rome, this is a historical fact.
Jesusisthetruevine 11 months ago
Sola Scriptura is biblical. Jesus condemned man-made traditions that went against his word (Matthew 15:9, Mark 7:9, Colossians 2:8) Jesus said to search the scriptures, but not tradition. 1 Peter 1:18 says we are not redeemed by the vain tradition of the fathers, but by the precious blood of Christ. Acts 20:20, Paul kept back nothing that was profitable for the people. 2 Thessalonians 2:15 says hold to the tradition received by his *epistle*, so it must be biblical. MAN-MADE tradition is heresy.
Jesusisthetruevine 11 months ago
This seems deceptive to me.
Why does the maker of this video feel the need to hide behind computer animated puppets and computer voices, when a simple recorded conversation between himself and a knowledgeable Catholic would suffice?
BeondaPale 1 year ago
No, It is not deceptive. I have been a Catholic before. I Know what they teach. Don't be misguided... All those doctrines that go against God's word are from satan. History confirms my point. Truth is, The RCC admits they follow ancient pagan rituals of Babylon, and there are many quotes by their own leaders and institutions that prove they are apostate. I wish you no harm, just to study the Bible for yourself. Good day, and God bless.
Jesusisthetruevine 1 year ago
@Jesusisthetruevine
I notice that you did not answer my question. Why the computer puppet show. In this animation, you have written both parts and act as both interviewer and interviewee. Thus, like me, other people can see the inherent dishonesty in this.
I notice also that any comment I or anyone else wishes to post here first requires your approval - another sign that you do not wish a fair and honest discussion. Please continue to study the Bible and learn who Satan really is
BeondaPale 1 year ago
Incorrect. I am simply using xtranormal to convey a point. I am not afraid of conversation. Quite the contrary. I have the sources to back it up.
you are wrong about the comment approval. I do this because I simply do not want to waste time. I don't want to hear the same lies over and over again. Titus 3:10 declares to reject heretics if they keep rejecting the truth. I would suggest that you *really* study the scriptures (John 5:39) and see which churches satan has infiltrated. Good day.
Jesusisthetruevine 1 year ago
There are lots of complaints about the video but no REFUTATION I thought the video was concise & to the point, it was an honest response to the false Satanic System of RCC
RCs can search the bible in vain to try and find such fantasy doctrines as a N/T sacrificial priesthood or Mary conceived without sin, or multitudes of other fantasy teachings
Rome has only infallibly interpreted approx 7 verses in scripture, the rest of the bible is uncharted waters to them What RC really believes Romans 1:16
glizag 1 year ago
The roman catholic church worships idols, a dead woman and man-made saints contrary to God's word. It is the whore that rides the beast.
555woodside 1 year ago
Seriously? Talk about taking the bible out of Context. This video is incorrect and is heretical.
So sad.
Everything about the Catholic Church is in the bible, everything.
This Video is very misleading and very inaccurate.
jumbaljoe 1 year ago 19
This is proof positive that you did NOT study the Bible. Have you even ever read it? It seems you are either rejecting the Bible, or don't care. Most of the Catholic doctrine cannot be found in the Bible. Sunday Sabbath, Veneration of images (idolatry) glorification/assumption/Immaculate conception/perpetual virginity of Mary, Canonization of saints, Authority/Forgivesness of sins/Vicar of Christ/ Worship of pope, Transubstantiation, etc. are all Pagan is origin. The Catholic church admits this.
Jesusisthetruevine 1 year ago
Cardinal Newman admits in his book that; the "temples, incense, oil lamps, votive offerings, holy water, Holidays, and seasons of devotion, processions, blessings of the fields, sacerdotal vestments, the tonsure (of priests, munks and nuns), images, and statues... are all of PAGAN ORIGIN." -The Development of the Christian Religion p 359.
Rome was called new Babylon because it adopted it's practices. That is from Cardinal Gibbons, Fatih of our Fathers, 1917 ed. page 106.
Jesusisthetruevine 1 year ago
@Jesusisthetruevine calling the Church pagan means the bible is also pagan... deal with it... you filter comments? no wonder... you fear comments will disprove youre validity.... shameful really,
xong111 1 year ago
Sorry, the Catholic church does not follow the Bible 100%. Jesus said unless you forsake all, ye cannot be my disciple. (Luke 14:33)
Far from the truth, my friend. I fear nothing, especially people's comments that are not scriptural. I have nothing to be afraid of, I just do not want to waste time. I already heard all those catholic apologetic statements, none of them are true or scriptural. Face it, Catholicism follows her own tradition, and not the Bible. Calling the Bible pagan is blasphemy.
Jesusisthetruevine 1 year ago
@Jesusisthetruevine yes, you blaspheme the bible by calling the Catholic church pagan. thus you cannot use the bible against her authors (The Catholic Church).
Its like calling Islam a false religion using the Quran, its like disproving Mormonism using the book of Mormon... The bible and the Catholic Church is inseparable.
xong111 1 year ago
Wrong. You are the one who is blaspheming, my friend. CC follows tradition above the Bible.(Worshipping another false God.(tradition)
How can you claim that the CC wrote the Bible, when they did not even EXIST till after the roman empire? That is not true. CC does not even follow the Bible, thus sealing it's apostasy and hypocrisy. Revelation was completed around 95-96 Ad, hundreds of years before CC existed, Sorry friend. Follow Jesus and the word, and you will be safe.
Jesusisthetruevine 1 year ago
You are not aware of what your own church teaches. CC teaches blasphemy. Read Isaiah 8:20. Mary and the saints are all dead, praying to Mary or any other dead saint is praying to a fallen angel. The dead know nothing.
"The Pope is not only the representative of Jesus Christ, he is Jesus Christ himself" -Catholic National July 1895.
Blasphemy.
Catechism #1192 says statues awake and nourish faith. (Pg. 337,)
The Bible says it is FAITH, that comes by hearing the Word (Romans 10:17)
Jesusisthetruevine 1 year ago
@Jesusisthetruevine If you read history carefully, you will see that often if a king had to leave his country (for any reason) he would appoint a prime minister or vicar to run the country FOR him whilst he was away. The pope serves the same function. He is a Vicar of Christ, acting AS Christ but not Christ himself. Can you provide a link to the ACTUAL article so we can read it in context rather than copy pasting from anti-catholic sites?
xong111 1 year ago
The pope is NOT the "vicar" of Christ. Blasphemy.
John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the HOLY GHOST, whom the Father will send in my name, HE SHALL TEACH YOU all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Pope John XXII: "To believe that our Lord God the Pope has not the power to decree as he is decreed, is to be deemed heretical." (The Gloss of Extravagantes of Pope John XXII, Cum. Inter, title 14, chapter 4, "Ad Callem Sexti Decretalium")
Jesusisthetruevine 1 year ago
Your history is wrong. Face it, the CC teaches unbiblical doctrine. Do not be deceived, friend! Jesus loves you! Please follow him for your salvation.
"The Pope is not only the representative of Jesus Christ, but he is Jesus Christ, Himself, hidden under the veil of flesh." (Catholic National, July 1895)
Pope Pius V: "The Pope and God are the same, so he has all power in Heaven and earth." (Pope Pius V, quoted in Barclay, Cities Petrus Bertanous Chapter XXVII: 218.)
Need I say more?
Jesusisthetruevine 1 year ago
@Jesusisthetruevine given that youve never given the links to the OFFICIAL documents you have posted, Catholics nor the Bishops nor the Pope has ever believed that the pope is God/Jesus. Who are you to dictate our doctrine better than a catholic? lol. Some anti-catholics are just tempted to 'remodel' the things officially stated without anything to support it.
I am proud to say i and my brothers worship Him and Him ALONE.
xong111 1 year ago
I did give you the source. Stop denying the evidence! The truth is clear, that the CC does not follow the Bible. Just accept truth. The Bereans searched the scriptures daily, "not tradition."
Take for example the Sabbath. Jesus never changed the Sabbath, nor the apostles. The ten commandments will never be changed (Matthew 5:18, Psalm 11:7-8, Malachi 3:6, Psalm 89:34) yet Rome claims to have "changed" it. This is a manmade TRADITION, which has zero grounds in scripture.
Jesusisthetruevine 1 year ago
"All names which in the Scriptures are applied to Christ, by virtue of which it is established that He is over the church, all the same names are applied to the Pope." - On the Authority of the Councils, book 2, chapter 17
"This judicial authority will even include the power to forgive sin." [The Catholic Encyclopaedia Vol xii, article ‘Pope’ pg 265]
Jesusisthetruevine 1 year ago
"...superior papal authority and dominion is derived from the law of the Caesars." Lucius Ferraris, in "Prompta Bibliotheca Canonica, Juridica, Moralis, Theologica, Ascetica, Polemica, Rubristica, Historica", Volume V, article on "Papa, Article II", titled "Concerning the extent of Papal dignity, authority, or dominion and infallibility", #19, published in Petit-Montrouge (Paris) by J. P. Migne, 1858 edition.
Papal Rome came from pagan Rome.
Jesusisthetruevine 1 year ago
Did you know that the CC admits that they are Babylon?
"It has often been charged... that Catholicism is overlaid with many pagan incrustations. Catholicism is ready to accept that accusation - and even to make it her boast... the great god Pan is not really dead, he is baptized" -The Story of Catholicism p 37
The penetration of the religion of Babylon became so general and well known that Rome was called the "New Babylon." -Faith of our fathers 1917 ed. Cardinal Gibbons, p. 106
Jesusisthetruevine 1 year ago
Then you are *not* believing the evidence. Did you even read the quotes I gave you? I seems you have a hard time admitting that the church is wrong.
"In order to attach to Christianity great attraction in the eyes of the nobility, the priests adopted the outer garments and adornments which were used in pagan cults." -Life of Constantine, Eusabius, cited in Altai-Nimalaya, p. 94
Jesusisthetruevine 1 year ago
"The Church did everything it could to stamp out such 'pagan' rites, but had to capitualet and allow the rites to continue with only the name of the local diety changed to some Christian saint's name." -Religious Tradition and Myth. Dr. Edwin Goodenough, Professor of Religion, Harvard University. p. 56, 57
In Stanley's History, page 40: "The popes filled the place of the vacant emperors at Rome, inheriting their power, their prestige, and their titles from PAGANISM."
Need I say more?
Jesusisthetruevine 1 year ago
"your history is wrong"...youve just proven my point, just that? what part of history did i state wrongly?
398 AD, council of Carthage - Displayed all books considered canon, filtered them until we have the books we have in our bibles today
Need i say more?
xong111 1 year ago
It does not matter. You are still mistaken. The Bible was already completed in manuscript by around 95 AD. I already told you this. It does not matter if the Catholic church "organized" the books of the Bible or not. It was already written. Translating into their own version (Sinaticus Vaticanus) does not match the Textus Receptus manuscripts. So no, the CC did NOT write the Bible, they simply made their own translation of a bad manuscript. See thirdangelsmessage(dot)com, and "The Beast" video.
Jesusisthetruevine 1 year ago
Daniel 7:25 says that the beast will think to change "times and laws" This is exactly what CC claims.
"The Pope is of great authority and power that he can modify, explain, or interpret even divine laws... The Pope can modify divine law, since his power is not of man, but of God, and he acts as vicegerent of God upon earth." -Lucius Ferraris, Prompta Ribliotheca, "Papa," art. 2, translated.
Jesusisthetruevine 1 year ago
Arguing like this is not good. We both know that the CC is wrong. Be honest. I mean you no harm, friend. Jesus still loves you, and all of us. I was just telling you the truth that the church cant save. Only Jesus can save (John 14:6, Acts 4:12) remember, It is the precious blood of Christ that redeems, and * not * the tradition that you received of your fathers ( 1 Peter 1 :18-19) Jesus condemned tradition (Matthew 15:9, Colossians 2:8, Mark 7:9) that goes against his word.
Jesusisthetruevine 1 year ago
@Jesusisthetruevine thank you sososososososossososo much for this video. I would have never found out the truth on my own. I have a wuestion. How does one study the Bible?
potsocket 1 year ago
"Not the Creator of Universe, in Genesis 2:1-3,-but the Catholic Church can claim the honor of having granted man a pause to his work every seven days."-S. C. Mosna, Storia della Domenica, 1969, pp. 366-367.
Blasphemy.
"The authority of the church could therefore not be bound to the authority of the Scriptures, because the Church had changed...the Sabbath into Sunday, not by command of Christ, but by its own authority." Canon and Tradition, p. 263
CC follows traditions, not the Bible.
Jesusisthetruevine 1 year ago
Do you realize what you are saying? The Catholic church teaches "veneration" of saints. Veneration and worship is the same thing. It says in Canon Law #1187 that saints can be venerated. This teaching is NOT in the Bible. Cornelius tried to worship Peter, but he forbad it. (Acts 10-25-26) John fell and worshipped the angel, but the angel also forbad it. (Revelation 19:10, & 22: 8-9)
There are many pictures of the pope bowing before Mary statues. Leviticus 26:1 condemns bowing before an idol.
Jesusisthetruevine 1 year ago
@Jesusisthetruevine veneration is not adoration
singapore7773 1 year ago
Are you sure? veneration and worship have the same definition, I looked it up in the dictionary. I guess you did not really look at the cathechism.
Jesusisthetruevine 1 year ago
I mean you no harm - Jesus still loves you, and he calls all out of the compromising system (Revelation 18:4) I am just telling you the truth because those practices do not glorify God. Pray, and invite Christ through the Bible into your life. May God bless you, and keep yiu in truth.
Jesusisthetruevine 1 year ago
@jumbaljoe this video is far from inaccuracy if you look up the passages spoken here on the video--you would learn something
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DreamsofMajesty 1 year ago
Wait so you don't believe that sunday is the new sabbath? What day of the week do you go to church?
RobotNinjaDestroyer 1 year ago
No, Sunday is not the Biblical Sabbath. "Sun" day came about by manmade tradition. This is what the historical facts provide. Sun worship goes back to Babylon. I am not talking about people worshipping the sun on sunday, but it is interesting that the sun was venerating in ancient Babylon, and It is disturbing to think that a simple man can change the almighty Creator's holy law.
Jesusisthetruevine 1 year ago
@Jesusisthetruevine So then what day of the week do you attend church?
RobotNinjaDestroyer 1 year ago
I go to church on the 7th day. (Saturday) Sure, It is not a sin to go to church on Sunday (the first day of the week) or Monday, Tuesday, or Wednesday for that matter. But when a religious organization replaces the Bible 7th day Sabbath was a first day tradition, then things go wrong. Seriously wrong. You can even read in the Bible, Jesus had a custom of preaching on the Sabbath, and healing people on the Sabbath, so did the apostles spread the word. Nothing Is said to make the first day "holy."
Jesusisthetruevine 1 year ago
@Jesusisthetruevine so you want us to be Protestants?
potsocket 1 year ago
@Jesusisthetruevine also is there any thing wrong with Luthernism
potsocket 1 year ago
This video simply lies about the Catholic Faith - it's just ignorant straw-man propaganda. See BaronGrackle's videos for a balanced (not even pro-Catholic!) viewpoint.
Dystopiologist 1 year ago
What an ignorant video. Total misrepresentation of the Catholic Faith.
Dystopiologist 1 year ago
I disagree strongly. If you honestly believe thta this video is misrepresenting Catholicism, then you did not even study their teachings. I used to be catholic, and a lot of the doctrine is manmade traditions, which are taken out of context based on erroneous portions of the Bible. You either follow the Bible, or you don't. It is really that simple.
Jesusisthetruevine 1 year ago
@Jesusisthetruevine
You've got to be kidding. You wouldn't even HAVE a Bible if it were not for the Catholic Church.
But you've misrepresented Catholic teaching here, friend. This piece is just a hit-piece.
Dystopiologist 1 year ago
Wrong. The Catholic church did NOT give us the Bible. Study your history. They just created their own translation based off latin vulgate, they changed scripture to try to fit their own belief.(documented)The Bible was wrote by the PROPHETS, and Catholicism did not exist until after the roman empire. How can you claim they gave us the Bible, when they don't even follow it? That would be the most hypocritical church on earth. I do not mean wrong. It is the church that's wrong, NOT the people.
Jesusisthetruevine 1 year ago
@Jesusisthetruevine
So where DID the Bible come from?
Dystopiologist 1 year ago
@Jesusisthetruevine
You don't know where the Bible came from, do you?!
Dystopiologist 1 year ago
Yes, I do. Apparently you do not know from whence the Bible is. The last book of the Bible was finished by around 96 A.D, long before the RCC. Remember, Papal Rome came from pagan Rome. This is documented in history, The popes, etc all copied things from the caesars. That is why they call it "Roman" Catholicism, because it came out of all the old world of pagan Rome. Arguing is pointless, really. If you do not want to acknowledge this fact, then maybe it would be good to stop arguing. Thank you.
Jesusisthetruevine 1 year ago
@Jesusisthetruevine
How did this happen? Did someone just "declare" it finished in 96? And how do we know this; is it in the Bible?
You're not thinking this out - the Bible did not just fall from the sky, friend.
Dystopiologist 1 year ago
You are still not understanding. The Bible was written by the prophets, and was translated by certain protestants into English. The Bible was already complete, we did not need the church. I really do not want to waste my time, since you are close minded about this. Whatever. Believe what you wish, but If you believe the CC gave us the Bible, consider it to be a contradiction, because they don't even teach or follow the Bible fully.
Jesusisthetruevine 1 year ago
@Jesusisthetruevine
After being Protestant for over 40 years, I actually came to the Catholic Church from the Bible my friend. You don't understand this - but Christianity will never make sense outside of ONE authoritative Church - and that Church is the Roman Catholic Church. Yes, the same Church that put the Bible together has the authority to interpret it.
Dystopiologist 1 year ago 10
You are just blinded. I have no more interest in talking to you. No, The Bible stands AS IS. It is God's word, and no "church" that teaches contrary to God's word is the true church. Sad, but true. You can believe what you want, but you are not believing the truth. Please do not waste time here. Good day.
Jesusisthetruevine 1 year ago
@Jesusisthetruevine, Who is really "blinded" here?
Did you notice that BaronGrackle has re-done this video - but ACCURATELY represented the Catholic side? You cannot answer these questions of course; you can only "refute" a false straw-man that you purposely set up.
Go ahead and block me for simply telling it like it is. Since the Truth is not on your side - and you don't seem too open to it - you probably don't have any other option.
Dystopiologist 1 year ago
That is your own OPINION. He may well have identified the Catholic faith, but it still fails because It goes against the Bible. Enough arguing. Everything in this video is true and Biblical. The truth is sadly not is your favour. I am tired of repeating the same thing. Take your comments elsewhere, or STUDY the scriptures. Remember, Jesus told us to study the SCRIPTURES (John 5:39, Acts 20:20) NOT "tradition." Have a nice day.
Jesusisthetruevine 1 year ago
Is everybody enjoying this exercise in stupidity as much as I am?
cfremaux 1 year ago
Besides Matt 16:18 there are over a dozen biblical passages pointing to the leadership of St. Peter. Peter is the only person that Jesus refers to when using the first person plural pronoun "us". There are 20,000+ protestant churches founded by people who thought they knew what the Bible means.
fizmath 1 year ago
Matthew 16:18 does not refer to Peter. In greek, it is petra. It is not petros, used for Peter. How can that be, when Jesus imediately rebuked Peter, calling him satan in a few verses later? That would be an insult to Christ, as if Peter was the foundation, he just failed. It does not make sense.
Jesusisthetruevine 1 year ago
@Jesusisthetruevine no. Christ spoke to apostles in aramaic not grk. grk unlike aramaic has masculine and feminie usages for words. so in grk petros is used for peter because it is the masculine form of rock petra would not be used to describe a man in grk because its feminie. in aramaic no distinction. when matthew was translated from aramaic to grk arose this problem which didnt exist in aramaic so peters name was given masculine ending. thats all. so your argument does not stand
diafod 1 year ago
no, your point still fails. Peter is not the rock. Did you pay attention? Peter was called satan, which means that he was not the rock, that would be blasphemy against God. Anyway, Jesus is the chief cornerstone according to Ephesians 2:20, and the rock ( 1 Corinthians 10:34) so your point still does not make any sense.
Jesusisthetruevine 1 year ago
@Jesusisthetruevine your point does not follow. he was rebuked so hes not rock? there is no cennection for u are quoting an incident having nothing to do with the text in question its not even the same scene. U have to deal with fact that the clear reading of the text is that Christ called peter rock. Peter is even called kephas later in NT. and his name was not even peter it was simon! it was changed by Jesus in matthew when he gave him that name which meant rock. no avoiding it
diafod 1 year ago
If Peter was the rock, then why was he rebuked? Not a good rock if you ask me. He instantly failed his task, which does not make sense, Cephas is a different greek word than Petra, in Matthew 16:18. It is petros, or stone. Not the same rock. Many people had their names changed. Nathaniel was also named Bartholomew, In Acts, John was surnamed "Mark", Levi was also renamed as Matthew, James and John were known as the "sons of thunder" Every believer will have a new name in heaven.
Jesusisthetruevine 1 year ago
read book of acts 2:46 apostles went to the temple everyday, which means they went on sunday.
229jop888 1 year ago
Yes, The Apostles broke bread DAILY. They met on Sunday, but they also met on Monday, Tuesday, and everyday of the week. They still kept the Sabbath, and there is still no Biblical mandate for keeping sunday. At all. Thanks.
Jesusisthetruevine 1 year ago
i am a convert to Catholicism from Baptist. if there is any Protestant who can civilly show me where i am wrong let me know
diafod 1 year ago
Just study the Bible, and you will see the truth revealed to you...
Jesusisthetruevine 1 year ago
@Jesusisthetruevine are u suggesting i have not? i know the bible quite well. and have come to conclusion, as many have, that catholic church is only one that has held to true teachings of christ. can u show me where i am wrong?
diafod 1 year ago
If you knew the Bible well, It would open your eyes and show you that the CC is not the true church of God. How can they be, when they teach traditions of men, rather than the commandments of God? This makes me think that you are not being honest, or you have not studied as you claimed. Most teachings in the CC stem from paganism. Cardinal Newman, admits this in the book "The Development of the Christian Religion" p 359. Also in "Faith of our fathers" 1917 page 106 - Rome is called New Babylon.
Jesusisthetruevine 1 year ago
@Jesusisthetruevine Cardinal newman never said that Church's doctrines rely upon traditions of men. what he meant is the same thing u believe. All the foundations of our faith were there from beginning though took many centuriues for us to gain deeper understanding. ex. trinity was beliebed since day one, but by no means was it understood as deeply as it is oday. over time with study we gain deeper understanding of things always believed we gain more insights eyc. thats aall newman meant
diafod 1 year ago
But didn't the Lord Jesus Christ rise from the dead on the "first day of the week"? Last I checked, that would have been Sunday. They were coming to the tomb to do work, and as they were still keeping the sabbath then, they would not have come to do work on Saturday. So Sunday is hallowed by the Lord's rising. See also Acts 20:7. Saturday is a matter of individual conscience, but we are free from the requirement of the old sabbath observance under the New Covenant of Christ.
XSC3 1 year ago
The commandments of God can be changed. The Ten Commandments were not the only commandments given by God to be followed (there were 613 in the Torah). If you're sure that they can't be changed, why did God issue a new Covenant? (New covenant, new commandments). If you're right, then please explain why Jesus broke the Sabbath and taught others to do so in the Gospels? Jesus never lists the sabbath with the commandments when he lists them.
XSC3 1 year ago
Blasphemy! Jesus kept the Sabbath. Read John 15:10. The JEWS said that Jesus broke the Sabbath ( John 5:18) Jesus broke Jewish MANMADE traditions about the Sabbath. They also claimed that Jesus was claiming to be God, which they thought was blasphemy. He was God, and thefore he did not break the Sabbath.
Jesusisthetruevine 1 year ago
Jesus kept and fulfilled the Law. However I'm pointing out that he WORKED ON THE SABBATH. He also had other people do work on the sabbath. He healed and did so by doing "work" (making mud with his spittle and dust). He allowed his disciples to gather grain from a field when they were hungry on the sabbath. He told the crippled man he healed to pick up his mat and carry it (on the sabbath). Christ was Lord of the Sabbath. He was accused of breaking it, repeatedly.
XSC3 1 year ago
@XSC3, And He Christ also explained that doing good works on the sabbath is a good thing. Therefore it is not considered work! Here's an example, if you go and visit someone in prision, or go to a nursing home to lend a hand, or a hosptial, these are considered good works.? Therefore He Christ is Lord of the Sabbath Day, you people need to stop taking God's words out of context, and read it as it is written to you. For God will not hold him guiltless who takes His words out of context.
dvining40us 1 year ago
too many lies i cant even type enough in a comment.; Do your research and stop trying to attack christs church.
groo737 1 year ago
No, The Roman church is full of lies. If you really studied the Bible, you would agree. Christ's true church follows God's Commandments, but Catholicism only follows 8 commandments, which means it is not the trye church. I am afraid this is sad, but true. God calls all his people of of Babylonian confusion before Jesus comes again (Revelation 18:4) I hope you will be willing to be made ready,
Jesusisthetruevine 1 year ago
@Jesusisthetruevine What are these commandments and how are they being broken? Also what religion are you? Baptist? Methodist?:
groo737 1 year ago
Rome claims to change the 7th day Sabbath of God to Sunday. This of course, is just a manmade tradition and cannot be found in the Bible at all. We ought to obey GOD rather than man. (Acts 5:29)
Jesusisthetruevine 1 year ago
Incidentally if you want to say the "Church was apostate that changed the sabbath" keep in mind that you use the Bible with the New Testament in it. The New Testament canon was established by this very same church, while you claim they were apostate. So apostates get to set the limits of scripture for you? Interesting. Why would the holy spirit inspire them with truth in one category but be unable to save them from error in another less important one?
XSC3 1 year ago
Acts 15 makes no mention of the sabbath being binding on Gentile converts.
Paul preaches against circumcision, the law, festivals, and foods, EXCEPT where it will affect the conscience of a "weaker" brother or sister.
XSC3 1 year ago