why you say meditation prevents meditation 1

[MentalHygieneMusic]

So is he saying that meditation is worthless or is he saying that there is nothing to gain from meditation?

[Adeikov]

I call him a spiritual leveler; all is phenomenal sensory and material; this guy is Richard Dawkins in a lot of ways; and it is interesting to behold his wonderful personality.

[INwkHemotoX]

you can learn from everithing with an open mind, there is no useless informations, just knowlige levels. one man starts from throwing mud balls one from immagine the meaning of the word "infinite" sorry for my poor english.

[INwkHemotoX]

if you generate toughts then... you are not meditating :))) this man is funny .....

[crookedfinger13]

This man knocks everything, perhaps rightly so. But what does he suggest? I've watched a few clips, and I can't tell what his teaching is.  What is his teaching? Anybody, please.

[tungumungu]

I hv gone through his V-clips & also read his biography. He is the person who wanted to get enlightened. He went to Raman Maharshi in Himalayas, also JK but he could not experience GOD, he could not attain self realization, that's what he said. then he started denying ALL things. I am sorry to say but then he started doing "WORD PLAY". no divine satisfaction he got in his life but yes, one should appreciate his affaction towards divinity. His pain, agony, reaction prove that. May GOD bless him.

[human2011able]

UG is So Fucking Hot! Perhaps Real Genuine Disciple of JK in Real Essence...

[degallaco]

listened to this guy for the first time. come accross a lot of megalomaniacs. this guy certainly is'nt one. his message brings the sensationalists down to earth.

[HoneyMonster666]

I had some amazing experiences through meditation beyond thought and words. I wouldn't dare label the experience. Each to their own I say, but if that man experienced what I have, he dare not call it a waste of time. Thats his opinion. Time is defined on you not other people. The truth is different in each of us, and no one knows what the truth actually is. Happy exploring you tubers :)

[1983rahulsharma]

@HoneyMonster666 first of all sir i am not counter u........u say that u have experience with the help of meditation beyond thoughts ....i again repeat beyond thought ......its thought that tell u ur alive or in sleeping state or dreaming when thought comes to an end u have no way of knowing ur dead or alive u ....u also end up in mental hospital .....as he says .also beyond thought is also thought sir .......who knows that this is beyond thought experience .......which is also thought ........

[HoneyMonster666]

@1983rahulsharma

You maybe right my friend. Trying to explain my mediative experience is like trying to grasp water. Until you have your own experience. Its like trying to explain to somebody what coffee taste like when they never tried it. I'm still out of the hospital mind you. ha

[1983rahulsharma]

@HoneyMonster666 again sir i repeat i not counter u ...........also not any meditation techniques .......i start meditation at 17 now i am 27 ...i have lot of experience ....when u impressed by a experience u just stop there..all theses meditation experiences r accompishment of the mind ...i move one step more that who knows that this is thought or beyond thought ........one thing is sure we r in mind or thiught sphere replacing one idea with another ......that what ug is saying.....

[HoneyMonster666]

@1983rahulsharma

Nope, thats not what i'm saying. I'm not replacing ideas either. No right or wrong here, and like your self, I don't meditate at all really. Ultimately, there is benefits to mediating (Again,down to the individual). I'll share something with you. I've gone beyond ego, gone beyond the constructs of the mind and allow for passive thought to flow like the river. I don't give credit to mediation, oh no. The human being's willingness to see past the ego's conditioning.

[HoneyMonster666]

@HoneyMonster666

We live in a world of labels thats seems to separate reality into different groups, such as; right, wrong, black, white, liberal, Conservative, catholic, prodestant etc (list goes on) and criminals? surely, the human being wasn't born a criminal?. like the lecturer speaks. The above list are fragments of ideas from different people. This world is a mish mash of conditional thought to which we have inhabited and claim our own, depending where you live.

[1983rahulsharma]

@HoneyMonster666 ur going beyond everything .......ur beyond thought and now ur beyond ego ...u listen to swamis.....? they talk like that beyond body beyond ego........where u learn these word"beyond" ...tomorrow u will surely say i am beyond death.....again i say ur in the mind ....if u experience a"static state"like ug describe a "calamity" it is also mind .......i wanna ask u serious question? ur beyond tha ur not body mind egothen "who r u"?honestly

[HoneyMonster666]

@1983rahulsharma

Not beyond it. To be 'aware' of it is enough. I don't follow guru's or swamies of anything of that nature. They only point the way. I'm not what you think nor do I belong to any orders. The nature of ideas is always in flux and reality of nature is never certain. I'm like you, conscious thought in space. We are awareness and the totality of life opens in the now.

[1983rahulsharma]

@HoneyMonster666 now u say "not beyond"for last 4 days ur repeating beyond and now not beyond ...what u mean by concious thought in space ....explain it

[1983rahulsharma]

@HoneyMonster666 there is no way u have beyond thought experience it is in thought sphere ......ug is jnana yogi his intellect is many times sharper than anybody in the 20th century ...that he is speaking is also true ..........i am not dismissing ur meditation world ..........drop ur beliefs for 10 min than listen to him .......than only he will make sense .........he islike royal bengal tiger u cannot counter him

[HoneyMonster666]

@1983rahulsharma

I'm not trying to win or claim i'm right and he's wrong, nor do I have any beliefs that you think I claim. I don't. Nor do I put anybody on a high pedestal because they have an opinion, no matter how intellectual they put their point across. Have you tried mediation yourself? whats your experience on the issue?

[yosedave]

i'm the enlightened master the world has been waiting for........pretty soon i'll reveal myself to you people..!!!!

[coolioto]

Love the way he regards the interveiwer with such intensity, such engagement. He's so alive, so exciting. Delicious stuff

[DANTHETUBEMAN]

it is hard to just let go. i do enjoy the colm in my life from meditation, like going to a nice quiet park for a day. that brake from the go go go of life, i carry some of that feeling with me most of the time. so i gess i enjoy fooling my self,, hahahah

[MURDOCMULDOON]

Get laid Have friends Drink wine Smoke weed act unimportant to stimulate your ego say no thanks to things you want so you feel good about your wise decisions dont kill people meditate read lao tzu & power of now sleep well workout make money

[PatrickNSAL]

Maybe you have experienced a great loss or had your dreams shattered? You look to all of these teachers, then become fascinated with UG. Are you sure you are ready for your cynical training? The first lesson is humility. You won't get anything from this. It is worthless. It won't bring peace to you. You fill find no satisfaction. You will become more frustrated. It is only the beginning. If you are lucky, you will discard all the crap your carrying around with you. Good riddance. Good luck.

[supralee]

any teacher is good just tolisten but if u just never begin your own training aything is just garbage.u.g issilent inwardly so he changes and enjoys peace.if we never would peace our minds then anything becames garbage.

[qigong1001]

We need more voices like this to expose the conmen of our time. Gregg Braden, Tolle, Oprah, Osteen, TM "experts". They are a dime a dozen.

[buddhametta]

hi, just wondering why you include tolle in the list of conmen? i understand the others, because they seem that way to me too, but tolle? he seems so sincere to me. :)

[qigong1001]

A good conman always seems sincere. Someone who preaches simplicity, should not be living in a multi million dollar estate in the most expensive part of Vancouver. Where do you think he got this money. By praying on the emotionally needy. Shouldn't a simple man spend these fortunes on the truly needy? The hungry? The poor? I've read Power of Now; and its full of vacuous verbiage with "feel good" statements. Nothing insightful or novel. Probably the worst of all conmen that I mentioned.

[qigong1001]

The comment is in response to why I think Eckhart Tolle is a con man and a fraud.

[annisha1975]

@qigong1001 My question is, why should you project an idea about enlightened man ? that he should live here and not there and all this rubbish. An enlightened man will be at peace whether he in rags or in riches. As long as you have all these ideations, there is no liberation. Please see this truth.

It does not matter one bit as far as your freedom is concerned that someone is a fraud or enlightened man. It simply does not. Let these go and be at peace.

[qigong1001]

Whose truth? Your truth? Liberation? If it is so simple to "let it go" then why can't YOU let it go...what compels you to respond to an outdated comment from a simple youtube patron? Further, the issue is not wealth, but its how you get it and what you subsequently do with it that reveals ones character. Selling oneself as "enlightened" then using the proceeds to fund yourself speaks for itself. If you are not concerned or care about the public being scammed, then YOU are not free.

[annisha1975]

@qigong1001 Come on buddy, be mature. I am dealing with a serious thing called enlightenment and not some joker making a few millions here and there. It does not matter one bit as far as your liberation is concerned whether A or B or C is enlightened or is a conman. Don't be childish.

The moment you utter a syllable the non-duality is lost. So don't bother about comments on youtube. I am very well aware of the fact that all this writing that I am doing is S**T.

[qigong1001]

What are you referring too when you say immature? Be specific.

[annisha1975]

@qigong1001 Be serious. If you are just interested in bashing some con-men or lamenting about the sad state of the world, I can't help it. You have to set aside everything that thought has invented or will invent by jumbling up words if you want to see your true nature which is perfect silence. As a consequence anything thought or spoken cannot be "it".

[qigong1001]

Serious? About what? Be specific.

[qcon81]

@qigong1001 you may be just a stubborn,arrogant skeptic who hasn't evolved enough to see the truth and keeps on projecting things. its hard for people like you to accept anything that defies your limited views..anything u cannot do just threatens u...u cant accept anything that u are not able to..hmmm...its only my opinion...

[qigong1001]

@qcon81 I love you too.

[bqreus]

The truth which can be spoken, is not the truth.

[lrlslrls]

you have spoken this truth so... i think... it is... you have... wait i got it.... damn no

[bqreus]

You have made me laugh which is the best truth I know. Actually, this is a written statement about what the truth is not. The truth is the experience of penetrating awareness without comment, clarification or communication. It is One experiencing itself. Words are communications from one to another, which presupposes 'The Other', which is false.

[illmatc]

@bqreus one has to see by one self, and once you do you won't be able to tell others

[soundofseventythree]

@bqreus so since this was spoken it is also not true yes? ;)

[Neuroacupunctuur]

U. Krishnamurti. Listen to his last words while dying, You can find it on Utube. it is a revelation. You will be able to understand what Krishnamurti is sying here!

[innersides]

...and remember,deleting commentation doesn't make him,or you,better.

[GreggaryPeccary]

cont.: you will realize that the seeking WAS the misery, samskara, maya etc. This man can deflate you enormously, thus resulting in temporary mental turmoil. I'm not there yet, I'm fucking miserable;) He does pop all illusions, but what's left when you let go of that misery? That's where he's trying to get at. See, you have no choice... Sooner or later you will have to let go

[GreggaryPeccary]

I just saw is account was closed LOL He won't respond to any of my wise words

[innersides]

ok ok you've deleted my commentations,but useless to say,this man was not a wise man.With his attitude he caused a lot of damage and confusion in the minds of people...and there were already enouth without adding.If he were unable to meditate and didn't have benefits from it, he should'nt find fault with meditation but with himself.

[lrlslrls]

ive deleted the commets cause i noticed someone who readed it was conffused, and that is ok, but spiritual sekkers are already too much conffusse. you are right but the thrut is contradictory, so at the same time you are not right, anyway if that is right does that matter? let it be

[GreggaryPeccary]

He meditated for seven years in the himalayas, had all the spiritual experiences and yet he rejected them because they demand permanence. But I know where you're coming from. I've been wanting to be enlightened for so long, after listening to HIM I wasn't so sure anymore. What I see in his "teaching" is that he intensifies the misery of seekers to an enormous, almost unbearable degree, which drives all hope out of you. In that hopeless state, when no effort is made to get out of that misery/cont

[Yoetah]

innersides, can you name another "enlightened" being who caused confusion by speaking his truth?

I can...

[qcon81]

@innersides i agree with you...the guy is a complete jerk full of delusions..he was a sore loser.. he had so much negativity and yet he had a burning desire to attain enlightenment which just remained his dream all his life...his frustrations preveneted him from experiencing what he wanted...

[DANTHETUBEMAN]

@qcon81 he just sed he was free from wanting it,,,lol the wanting was all he found there.