@IceHairi truth! . . .what else do u want,homos?enough already,u got what u want,u can have buttsex as much as u want,nobody cares...n now u want to commercialize homosexuality? what will u get from it?people will hate u guys more! so just shut up! there so many gays in malaysia, why cant u just live quietly?
@firol19 So now in ur mind gay is only = gay sex = disgusting = sex songsang n so on...In ur mind LGBT ppl is bout being dirty n sex? Wat do u mean by commercialize homosexuality? It is not an advertisement to encourage ppl to be homosexual , but to educate ppl bout being homosexual is not immoral, not an illness or wrong. Wat will they get from it? They do not wan anything but hoping for more ppl to understand them n acceptance for them. They r not fighting for having free sex wit same sex ppl.
@firol19 ..but to fight for same sex love n equality. They cant live quietly n happily bcoz there r alot of bullies will pick on them, parents who found out bout it might throw them out of their family, lead them to suicide n so on. Why would they wan to live under fear? Why can't they speak for themselves? Can u accept havin a relationship wit ur girlfriend secretly throughout ur life, hiding from ur parents n frens all away n be HAPPY? Come on, i noe u r not tat selfish, think bout it...=)
If there a lot of LGBT people in the world,the human population will decreace.Face it.When you in love you your own kind,there will be no off-spring.Don't try to make it up by taking a foster child.If LGBT is really legal,there is no child in this world.How can you make an off-spring with just men to men & women to women.Are you guys god or something.Or are you guy like the ameba who devide themself to make themselves many?
@IceHairi Come on...What u think LGBT is? A form of trend or illness tat will spread? Can u be influenced to love same sex ppl n not feel disgusting..Think bout it. N Y CAN'T homosexual ppl produce children????? They still have sperm n ovum tat works perfectly well as heterosexual did. They (men) still can donate sperm to d sperm bank for those who need it n they (women) still always can be a surrogate mother. There is no such thing tat children raised by Homosexual will be homosexual in d ..
@IceHairi ...future. If u think it will, u will jus imaging all over it. There is no need for a homosexual ppl to keep encourage their kids to be homosexual or else it is sexual orienta-ist d. Homosexual ppl do not hate heterosexual, but they wan acceptance from them only..
@IceHairi there are seven billion people in this world and population keeps increasing... gay people are 4% of the world... can u do the maths? o.o stupid...
it's too long for me to quote Michael Novoty's speech in last episode of QAF here =)
In short, ain't diversity was what this country was all about? Everyone is special and unique in his own way. Being different is what makes us all the same. It's what makes us family.
Being gay is a sexual preference. It is an abnormal choice and practice. I believe there could be a brain defect, hormonal imbalances or cerebral malfunction for an adult who is sexually attracted to the same gender. And it is also true, you can never understand how they think or feel because their 'software' is different or even mutant. Try to understand a PEDOPHILE ... you will hit the same wall. So to be fair, Seksualiti Merdeka must also allow pedophiles in their group ...
@vdo18sx I think u reli need to read up some good facts. 1st, homosexual is not any form of disease or illness which had been clarified by scientist in the world. 2nd, u r slapping urself coz since u said they got brain defect or hormonal imbalance, how is tat it is abnormal choice n practice? R downsyndrome ppl having abnormal choice n practice as well according to wat u had said? =.= 3rd, pedophile is a type of illness, it is an action of harming others, tat is y they r not to be support n ..
gila...sistem badan lelaki dah sangat sesuai untuk perempuan...still nak cari pasangan laki gak...sila la berfikir sebagai seorang manusia..jangan la ikutkan nafsu je
if my religion says that people should wear a turban cause it's a sin to not wear one, and i approach turbanless people to wear one, would it be fair? its like me telling you ' wear a turban! you're sinning!'. your response would be 'what the hell, that doesnt make sense!'. thats exactly how we feel. we KNOW homosexuality isn't a practice, choice, or misbehaviour. it's a naturally occurring, and its scientifically proven and stamped NOT AN ISSUE. no matter how many ANALogies you provide.
[7.81] Sesungguhnya kamu mendatangi lelaki untuk melepaskan nafsumu (kepada mereka), bukan kepada wanita, malah kamu ini adalah kaum yang melampaui batas.
[7.82] Jawab kaumnya tidak lain hanya mengatakan: "Usirlah mereka (Lut dan pengikut-pengikutnya) dari kotamu ini; sesungguhnya mereka adalah orang-orang yang berpura-pura menyucikan diri."
[7.84] Dan Kami turunkan kepada mereka hujan (batu); maka perhatikanlah bagaimana kesudahan orang-orang yang berdosa itu.
@faiz461 I dun think so every detail in d holy book is wat it seems to mean. Bout d thing tat has been mentioned is only bout d lust part? wat bout d love part? it remained silent , same as d book of bible, so it still doesnt not justify d definiton of homosexual term we r using now is wrong as it is different from d past version...~
being gay isn't the problem,but acting upon it is the sin.
but,the question is,how many of you who are gay,but don't act upon your feelings and temptations? even kissing(mouth,of course) is an act towards homosexuality,which is a sin.
just to remind you,Lot's people weren't followers,but they were punished.
@faiz461 Love is not jus a word, feeling tat to make it sustains n long lasting, it needs action, commitment n so on...so i dun feel anything wrong wit kissing or being intimate wit d ppl u love n loyal to...lol.. Punished? Punished by who? u mean law or God?
@faiz461 unfortunately 5.4/6.7 billion of the world isn't islam. i'm sure allah would be pleased with you, and your duties on youtube. all im saying is that, there are many religions in the world. and if one or two says something is a sin, it is impractical and illogical to think that the whole world should follow. this guy making this video isn't muslim. i am not. so i can have free gay sex as much as i want. and so can most of the world.
@faiz461 that is true. i dont expect malaysia to have equal rights for gays or anything like that, cause its backward that way. in global conferences, countries like this are seen as having civil right issues and open discrimination. and my purpose on this thread is to tell you that homosexuality is not a choice, it is not wrong, and it is pefectly fine as supported by science and most of the world.
@faiz461 the top ten largest economies in the world, the largest countries in the world, all have got their share of gay rights. its so progressed that they're starting to allow marriage. they also happen to be the most advance in science. as of now, there are as many atheists as there are muslims in the world. if people like you impose and think homosexuality is wrong, more muslims will turn to become more atheistic at heart, and sadly disregard and beauty of islam. think about your approach.
@faiz461 not only america, but a lot of the world. even india and china dont say homosexuality is illegal, and allow them to exist, but just no marrying rights yet. its like saying 'albino people are illegal'. doesnt make sense cause the state of being an albino is not a choice.
@faiz461 but yes. good job HATING homosexuals. you cannot say you don't hate them and separate the person from the action. even allah puts them together. with 'if you have sex with men, you are someone who has gone too far' then he encourages others to 'usir them'. he doesnt sit down and say 'oh i think the action is wrong, the people are fine'. so no matter how much you dont want to look lke a hater, you are a big hater. and you've got negativity in you. god doesnt want that, nor encouragesthat
@chuckisgaga i must say,that you are wrong.i don't hate the person because he is capable of change. but i still dislike acts of homosexuality.
and may i correct myself,that being gay isn't the problem,but acting on it is. but,the question is,how many of the people are gay but don't act on their feelings and temptations?
as you can see,the ayat's doesnt only apply to follower's,but also non-followers in a country.we can conclude that Lot's people we'ren't followers,but still suffered punishment
@faiz461 homosexuality cannot be cured, or changed. this is FACT by ALL science. if you say it has been 'cured' and there are 'ex-gays', these people are conformists who are 'in the closet' or they were probably not gay itself in the beginning. the gays that dont act on their feelings and marry women, are the ones who commit suicide, and feel their lives to be worthless. god wouldnt want that.
as i said,u can practice ur own religion and traditions.but theres no way we would allow u to run around naked(for example) in public just becoz ur not muslim,and just because u want to. we have rules in malaysia,and we expect everyone to follow.
alternative,apply for permanent resident in the USA.like i said,no one is stopping u.
@faiz461 being a homosexual and its actions are not a MORAL 'problem'. gay sex cannot be equated with running around naked. its an expression of attraction and love which are universal traits. you forget that the 'act of homosexuality' doesnt mean gay sex. it also means gay love. it also means holding hands, and the things you have no control over like your heart skipping a beat. these feelings cannot be caused by a woman for a gay guy. never in his life.
@faiz461 But to run naked is an attitude problem , where it is inappropriate act (well, 4 me i dun mind as long as d ppl around is ok xD) while being homosexual is not an act, so u cant relate an attitude wit sexual orientation to be viewed whether it is rite or wrong..
...nothing more than a love creature, evil-less soul, n will redefine wat d real homosexual is...
If u would refer d majority muslim will not ease wit tis i can understand, but i do noe tat there r quite no. of muslim r gays too, but it does not justify n to say they deserved to be cursed n condemned by majority muslim or even threaten to kill them! tat will only show God tat how uncivilise a man can be...~ i only believe purity love will win against hatred...=)
@Gemparkzz I apologised 4 d misuse of word "semen" in anus, well at least im correct bout d fluid tat will be released from anus after u r being stimulated.. Well, dun u noe tat ur anus r capable of reaching orgasm ? go have some research in wikipedia or watever website dude! Im not d idiot 1,but u r! ><
seriously dude, what makes you think shoving your dick up somebody's ass is not a breach of sexual morality? Do you think mankind is created to perform such despicable act of utter abomination?
@Gemparkzz Jus stop thinking gay = anal sex part will clear up ur mind a little n stop u from being so ignorant n write nonsense..~ To have sex or not is up to their decision n wat type of sex they wan is none of ur business, pls dun act like as though there is no sex or dirty stuff in straight mind tat u can judge d gay to be so disgusting in their sex thought.
@Gemparkzz put it this way.tomorrow if you got up in the morning and your body was a womans body, but your sense of attraction and brain are the same. you think you like dick? you would still digg chicks. but then the problem for you arises. how would you have sex with them? thats why lesbian women find ways to pleasure themselves and have sex. same for gay guys, and what is sexual morality? are you writing the moral code book? answer my question, how would you have sex with women if you are one
I would agree tat freedom of relationship is bad but tat will vary each individuals to understand n appreciate d value of a relationship.But tat does not happened jus in d west but all over d world include 3 main races of malaysia. But is tat wat u r thinking/viewing it as a part of homosexual ppl? I do admit tat they r some homosexual involved in all tis kind of stuffs but mostly work differently. Gay can still be loyal n faithful to their partners which is same as most straight can do to.=)
@faiz461 Of coz there r lots of ppl who will abuse it , but tis will depends on their government on how to handle it since they legalized it. Well, tats d part where we need to educate alot of ppl to not misused it.
i do not noe bout prophet Muhammad fact but u cant say to marry d single mother is d only way to help her, it can jus be merely an excuse. Plus with current society now, reasons to marry another girl wouldnt be coz of tat reason..~ It will be like *i wan more womens* thinking...
@valentine5209 and giving too much power to fools is a terrible thing to do.do you know that it only takes 8 hours to get a firearm licence in america,and do you how many people there are killed by firearms?
i didnt say marrying a single mother is the only way of helping her.and you are assuming that everyone of this time has bad intentions.
and you forgot,Islam limits men to 4 women(even with high restrictions,such as to be fair amongst them)
@faiz461 @@...u r dragging d issue into some law issue tat is way too far liao...lol..i duno bout d firearm part but advance country do needs to take some sacrifice too. We twill jus have to learn to c tis part as something tat got pros n cons lor.
I mean jus based on wat u explained based on ur religion teaching la..I m not assuming everyone to have bad intentions, well i apologise, my bad. But tis is oso same case ma, u r assuming every gay of tis time has bad intention too, isnt it? =)
@valentine5209 its democracy,nonetheless.people will fight in the name of democracy,no matter how dangerous it is.for example,marijuana.whats next,heroin? meth?
its not a matter where homosexuals have bad intentions or not,its just that we dont accept any acts of homosexuality.love isnt wrong,its just that it has to be expressed in a moral way. we view homosexuality as out of norm(luar tabi'i) as to incest,for example.
as a conclusion,i think absolute democracy is a form of corruption.
@faiz461 Well, i will prove tat homosexual love can be as morally correct as straight love do . At least im d one here who will marry my bf n live a happy life wit him. If God were once or still hate homosexual, but i will be one to change God's mind towards homosexual..I only believe God love everyone who has love in their heart n condemn those who have hatred in heart...=)
@valentine5209 and one day someone else will fight for incestuous love. they will say that incest can be morally correct just like straight love.
we do not believe that we can change God,but it is we who must change to follow God. we do not hate homosexuals,we hate homosexuality itself. just as one would hate evil.and as i said before,we accept love,but only in the righteous way.
concerning this situation,i suggest homosexuals to leave malaysia. muslims will not be at ease with this.
@faiz461 Well, as i had said, Incestuous love will not win 4 any rite even they wan to fight it bcoz it is not bout gender sex love problem, it is out of LGBT, tat is incest, love ex a father wit his daughter? who d heck will support them 2 be husband n wife??? There will be no organization or anyone bside themselves will fight only, so pointless.
To follow God will or not, it is still something we cant noe wat god reli think. God's will can n may change ... n i will prove tat homosexual is....
@valentine5209 says the guy who lives in the 21st century. the people before the 20th century thought that homosexuality will never see the light of day.
as i would think,who the heck would support homosexuality? but it seems nightmares do come true. so will incest. because if homosexuality can be legalized,then why cant incest? becoz its immoral? wasnt homosexuality immoral before?
i dont know which religion you are,but the monotheistic faith all believes the sin of homosexuality.
@faiz461 you are extremely wrong saying that monotheistic faith all believes in sin of homosexuality. hindus, buddhists, one of the oldests religions in the world do not deem homosexuality as SIN. in fact, there is even recognition of third gender (this is for biologically ambiguous sexual organs) and in greek culture as well as ancient western and eastern art, homosexuality is explored and is expressed frequently. go read the works of plato.
@chuckisgaga monotheistic faith = abrahamic religion,which doesnt include hinduism and budhism. in fact,budhism doesnt even believe in God,while hinduism believe in gods.
greeks also believed in polytheism.
just for the record,rukun negara = kepercayaan kepada Tuhan,not Tuhan-Tuhan. but since Islam tolerates freedom of religion,we don't mind budhist and hindus. but we just dont tolerate homosexuality.my advice,dont push ur luck.
@faiz461 are you kidding me? a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. hinduism doesnt belive in polytheistic faith, and has its sets of view on homosexuality on its own. this is as dangerous as saying muhammad had relationship with siti aisyah which is considered as being a pedophile. which is clearly wrong to think. you cannot throw remarks such as 'all monotheistic faith believes homosexuality is sin'. your knowledge scope covers only one perspective and lacks an open view.
@chuckisgaga i know they believe in a supreme God,but they worship whatever form they want. as to Islam,we believe in the One absolute in power,unquestionable.
i should correct myself to "abrahamic faith",since hinduism is considered monotheistic,which doesnt fit Islamic definition of monotheism.i apologize for that.
@faiz461 Tat is different case d la bro... N 4 ur info , there is ady organisations tat support homosexuality even b4 20th century ...~As when u 1st heard d word gay, wat does it mean to u? Something as potrayed in d tv or movie?? A gay means sissy/ like pink/ free sex / soft/ like to molest or touch other? Come on...Grow up n try to reli understand d gay community.. Although im gay, but im not as potrayed in d movie, im still a man, masculine n like guys stuff, jus tat i like guy... who d ...
@faiz461 well, tats wat i thought of wat d media or most ppl had in their mind la... I dunno wat bout d incest tat had been practiced in royal families BUT it is not to be supported anymore in our world anymore isnt it? Y wouldnt homosexual destory family relationship? tis is bcoz it doesnt affect btw d house members who r havin relationship. Mayb some parents cant accept homosexual n disown their children, but tis is not homosexual problem , tis is parents problem tat they need to learn to ...
@valentine5209 i think u might be wrong on incest.its actually getting more popular these days.just like homosexuality 50 years ago.
so the parents are at fault because they can't accept their son? why isn't the son at fault for not obeying their parents who have raised him since he was born? why isn't the son at fault for breaking his mother's heart? can't parents get a say in this?
@faiz461 It might had get more popular ,still ppl like tat r not to be supported by any organization in d whole world nor any religion , it is not even a controversial issue, it is wrong in a sense, in religion way, law, medically n in every single way, so no point cont to compare incest wit homosexual bcoz d sub of love is different...~
It can be d parents fault, it can be d children fault depend on wat matter, if it is d son who is gay n being rebellious n do not love his parents, then he...
@faiz461 ...can be only counted as d wrong 1 as he is being unfillial to his parents. BUT if he is jus being a gay son n still love his parents n care for them, it wouldnt be their fault coz d parents reject them b4 they even try to understand d situation n being judgemental or either too focus to maintain the family "image"(which i hate d most><) If a parents reli love their children, they should study d situation 1st b4 they came out wit a conclusion n blamed us for breaking their heart..~
@faiz461 ..grow up too to learn to accept their children which actually doesnt bring any harm unless their child indulged in immoral activities like havin free sex, bcome alcoholic,smoker n etc... Bout d issue of homosexual r of higher risk of getting AIDS, actually d chances to get AIDS r d same among straight n homosexual. Tats y u shouldnt take it as homosexual is wrong as a reason as tis can happen to straight too. I personally who is gay, is faithful to my partner , so do my partner to me,
"The United States currently prohibits men who have sex with men from donating blood "because they are, as a group, at increased risk for HIV, hepatitis B and certain other infections that can be transmitted by transfusion."[109] The UK [110] and many European countries have the same prohibition.[109]" - wiki
@faiz461 I noe y d chances of a gay to get HIV is higher. it is bcoz normally they dun use condom to practice any sexual act. They neglect d use of condom bcoz they tot it is unnecessary as their partner cant be pregnant.. BUT as long as u stay loyal to ur partner n dont go out multiple sex partner n so on, it is still consider safe.. It is jus same to straight, if a straight is being a good person n didnt practice any 1 nite stand, problem like tat wont occurs too. Thus, it is unfair to judge..
@faiz461 homosexual is wrong based on d AIDS issue. A straight can be easily get AIDS too if he simply have sex with other ppl. Tis is more on immoral act/attitude, thus u cant relate it wit homosexual as homosexual is not an act, it is an orientation, it is not wrong unless d attitude of an homosexual is wrong/immoral..~
@faiz461 .n i still can donate my blood proudly tat im still a HIV - guy, i did body health checks b4 too. Im a perfectly healthy guy.=) ok, since u said tat u r an ex-gay...would u tell me in detail bout ur story? I m interested to noe bout it...i will be glad to tell u mine too..Well, i saw an interesting video bout an ex gay pastor in malaysia too.. But i can see tat he was nvr a homosexual b4 but more to trans type, therefore still a straight. Hav a look if u r ...
@faiz461 free..jus go search edmund lawrence smith (gay can change) . His case is definitely different from me. I always wanted to be a man n nvr regret bout it, jus tat i love a man...D feeling, d sexual desire i have to men had been existed since i was a 5-6 years old boy. Everytime i saw a nude man photo since i was tat young, i ady capable to erect as i was sexually stimulated by it.. I nvr realised it not till i was 16. i did like girls b4, but it was not love, jus tat i admired...
@faiz461 ..them. i knew tis bcoz i nvr fantasized anything romance/intimate like kissing n so on to a girl when i was in "love" with them. Tats wat make me realised tat i nvr love girl but jus like them. Unlike d feeling to a guy, d feeling is different in a way tat it is warmer, d grow of desire tat u wan to noe tat person more n go deep into relationship n develop more...^^ Im 20 now anyway..hehe
@valentine5209 well,we do have a relationship with our brothers,even sometimes willing to die for ea other.the extent of the brotherly love.
but we don't see it as a way to express ourself in a sexual manner.loving another guy like a bro is totally fine(encouraged too),but loving another man as one would to a woman is not.
i mean,i love my friend(a girl) so much tht i wished i was a girl just so i could hug her.i do want to,but i don't act on it. hope u get it :3
@faiz461 but ultimately you will find a proper way to hug her freely and in an approved manner, maybe just like your religion says, after marriage etc.. UNFORTUNATELY gays dont have the institution of marriage. so people reduce their attraction to sex and more sex. this is wrong. there is so much love the same way, you would love a girl and want to hug her. we also can limit ourselves, like me, i've only decided to be intimate with someone after me and him are so close, and commited.
@faiz461 D thing u talk bout u wish u be a girl so tat u could hug her is different. I myself have no problem bout my gender issue, or any barrier issue( being abused by anyone) or even any vacuum issue ( to be loved by both parents) n so on. D only thing is i see myself as a guy n love a guy who acts like a guy. Tats how i define gay. 4 me, it doesnt include drag n transsexual as their soul r trapped in d opposite sex body n love towards same sex. They can only be considered as straight...
@faiz461 ..heck will support homosexuality? alot la bro... Beside homosexuality themselves, there r alot of straight will support us too, including all my frens tat i had came out too..~ N y keep mentioned bout incest pulak..?=.= OK! wan noe wats wrong wit it? It is WRONG bcoz IT WILL DESTROY A FAMILY RELATIONSHIP! U will change d relationship in a family n bcome husband & wife/ vice versa(homo)...2nd, as mentioned by Chuckisgaga, had been medically proven wrong, d child u will get from d ...
@faiz461 ..close relationship (ex-dad & daughter) will be borned wit illness/deformed/down syndrome n so on... TATS Y IT IS WRONG n cant be legalised no matter wat happen...~ It is immoral coz u will cause deep hurt btw d members as it involves them n give impact on them on d relationship while homosexual cant be considered immoral as we jus love someone of d same sex. Family might not be able 2 accept it 1st, but it shall be acceptable 1 day later as they understand their gay/les child more...
@faiz461 ..they would noe tat their child is no different from b4 they discovered their child is gay/les and after they discovered it.. Their child still can be a vry good person u get tat? There is nothing reli bad bout homosexuals except tat d media worsen it n potrayed a wrong image bout it....Dun always think bout d sex part la, against d nature la n so on...>< One's nature r to be changed. N my nature is im gay, i had tis sexual desire to men since i was like 5 or 6 years old, so if im ...
@valentine5209 we muslims are thought to love our brothers like we love ourselves,but not in the other kind of way. if thats what u meant by love,then we already have it. its just that we have limitations.
as a matter of fact,i've had a relationship with a boy when i was 14.he was the only guy,and whenever i think of him,i do kinda get turned on,but i control myself the best i can,because i know all us have our vices. some people maybe with alcohol,some with smoking.
@faiz461 LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, are we hearing this right? you claim to be an ex-gay? an EX-GAY? okay wait, no judgement, have you watched this? youtube.com/watch?v=PooEhBxh0NY im so disinterested at any argument about whether being gay is wrong or not, because i know it isn't. and slowly the world is recognizing it to be perfectly fine. you have your reasons to convince yourself that it is something that isn't right when science is proving it to be fact that it is not a problem that can be
@faiz461 equated with alcohol problems, incest, or murderer psychopath. the sooner you realize this the better. you only have one life to live. the only reason people are fighting for gay marriage is so they can be more moral with it. maybe practice post-marital sex. at this point, you might be confused, or you might've hidden your feelings deep within. you need to know that this is unhealthy. god wouldnt want you to face suppression and depression. you must realize that his words were written
@faiz461 yes.studies have shown that homosexual men have smaller hypothalamus than heterosexual men. incestual people dont have medical facts/science to prove anything for them.if you dont have any desire for any other guy, and like women sexually then you're not gay,were not gay.so you wouldnt understand.being gay means the male sex organ will only get erected for another man.this cannot be due to 'channeling' of feelings. its natural. you canot DECIDE/BLOCk that.
@faiz461 yes they were born that way. i ask you something, if its about development, then why didnt i turn out straight when my parents are straight. the same way gay couples children turn out straight even if the parents are gay. also why would ANY one CHOOSE to be gay?
@faiz461 imagine this: a kid is in school. he is only 14 years old, the time when all kids get curious and start checking women out. but he realizes that he has no feelings for women at all. he sees openly gay kids get beaten up, and he is affected internally. they cry themselves thinking why god made them like that..now i ask you: why would someone CHOOSE to be GAY, when theres SO much opposition? you think they think its cool to be gay and different?
@faiz461 in context with the times of the past. The message is never everlasting. If men were advised to do whatever they want and not wed a woman or be with her in the past, who knows, there might've been a lack of population, lack of growth. but times are different. fast forward a hundred years from now and this battle, this argument is nothing. it would be a norm for gay people to marry and adopt, because it would be alright. the whole institution of marriage is invented by mankind.
@faiz461 the whole context of what is right and wrong and normal and abnormal has been defined by people. that is why you believe and equate homosexuality tendencies to be a problem like alcohol, or incest. let me stress this one more time. incest is something that is medically, and scientifically proven abnormal and there is no natural tendency in human nature to like a sibling or mother particularly. at first glimpse, a human beings eyes detect other human beings eyes and scan to see whether
@faiz461 they're physically normal and whether they are closely related to us. if someone happens to look extra like us,our brain tends to know they;re related to us, and 'tells' us not to pursue or go after them in a wrong way. for your own good, why would god want he, who has attraction for men, to sleep with a woman. you'd have to use your thoughts to imagine a man while having sex with a woman. so what would you do? thoughts are sometimes worse than actions cause god resides there as well.
@chuckisgaga i believe that we believe in different Gods.ur opinion of God clearly contradicts mine.u might not even believe in God,since u dont use the capital letter.
thats what people thought in 1952,that homosexuality is a disorder. and thts only a handful of people.i hav the tendency not to have intercourse with a male,rather than females.
@faiz461 being gay means you can stare at a naked woman, and have NO interest at all, even if you try. there is no such thing as an ex-gay. god created gay men and straight men. the same has been observed in the animal kingdom. some beings go against the so called 'norm' and express desire/attraction to the same sex. and btw, not hating a homosexual means you allow him to respectively be and act upon what his sexual orientation is.
@faiz461 im sure god wouldnt mind if you reassured to yourself the meaning of your life. explore your sexuality, tell him you are going to offer truth in replacement with fear of sin. one bold value for another not so bold value. then seek love that makes your heart beat. just enjoy the nuances of love. this doesnt mean sex. if it doesnt go right, then whats wrong, go back and ask for forgiveness. you would be an experienced heart and more sure of your truth right?
@faiz461 How can u fully say tat a gay will definitely go to hell? I believe d world is full or diversity n sexual orientation is only a part of it. I believe as long as i can be a good homosexual n free of immoral activities, n love n loyal to my partner, then i will not go to hell... But if i was to be judged to go hell after my life, i will still have no regret... U said u only had a desire to a guy b4, tats perhaps only a phase , a matter tat u were too close wit him...there can be plenty..
@faiz461 ..of reasons 4 tat. Well, tis case happened to my bf's fren. He is always interested in girls except to a close good fren(male) of him. Therefore, u cant consider him as a homosexual as basically he still feel disgust 4 d gay sex thinking part but still love his close fren(male). Thus, 4 ur part im not clear n would like to noe more bout it n how it happened..=)
@faiz461 i am a gay guy. this means i think sexual intercourse with a woman is disgusting. this is not because of my morals, or influences. its because of the way i was born. maybe, like i explained, the chemistry of my body is different. now how is it fair, if a heterosexual male is allowed to express his needs, or his sexual desire (before or after marriage) , while i cant? god encourages love. god created all man, and he created me. so if i wanted to love, why would he condemn me?
@faiz461 ..forced to change my sexual desire from men to girl, it will against my nature !! Dun worry bout d judgement day, if there will be d day, it wouldnt bcoz of d world full wit homosexual tat human face extinction, it will bcoz of natural disaster. If u wanna say tat homosexual desire can be influenced n so on, u try to change ur feeling to love man n sexually attracted to them, if U CAN, i salute u n i WONT BE GAY anymore !!!! Im buddhist but take christian teaching, im free thinker!
@faiz461 what is all this nonsense about incest relating to homosexuality? attraction is something you cannot control. scientists in the world have come up with studies showing that it is scientific for human beings/ the whole animal kingdom to have attraction to members of same sex. and this is being related to biology, and soon will be a fact that it is not a choice etc. and its not wrong. because of people like you, people suffer from suppresion and ultimately commit suicide.
@chuckisgaga the same as attraction to one's own blood.if u read,incest has been practiced among the royal families of the west,to keep their blood "pure". so much for western culture.
believe what you want.they do say that love is blind.and sometimes one cant even tell that the woman he's been having sex with is his own mother,or even his own dad.
as i said,we muslims still tolerate ur freedom of religion.dont push us too far.
@faiz461 you really dont know what you're talking about. incest is defined as sexual intercourse between persons too closely related to marry. Homosexuality is an attraction, and attractions are born from within, and are biological. Sexuality is not divided into heterosexuality, homosexuality and incest. Incest is a wrong practice because it is scientifically, medically proven as wrong, and is often the result of as you said, preserving blood, rather than natural attraction.
@faiz461 i ask you, tomorrow you grow up get a wife, have a son or daughter that IS gay, what are you gonna do? you gonna try and TEACH him/her moral principles? you must understand that homosexual attraction and their actions based on those feelings, are not lifestyle related or a moral act. so if you decide to not allow your gay son to have those feelings, he might just be psychologically suppressed, and incase you dont pay attention to statistics, chances are he will commit suicide.
@chuckisgaga well,as a muslim,i believe homosexuality is a sin.even if my offspring are born psychopaths,which give them the urge to kill,that doesnt mean i will teach them to kill,to soothe their feelings. and psychopathy is a real congenital problem,unlike homosexuality,which is still just a theory,and filled with controversies.
statistics where? in the united states? note that they are not the majority muslim. u might wanna look statistics in a practicing muslim family/region. (syria?)
@faiz461 you cannot equate a son that is a homosexual to being a psychopath. homosexuality is not a psychological disorder by ANY science in the world. It used to be, till research was done, and now it is morally wrong and illegal to diagnose a homosexual as having a PROBLEM , or illness. This is worldwide, do your research and google 'is homosexuality a disorder/illness/psychological problem'. you really have to start broadening your reading scope.
@faiz461 you are by far the only person who thinks homosexuality is a THEORY. are you kidding me? and for you own, good, when you're reading your holy book, try and read all of it, and you will see a lot of things deemed as sin, and see if it is congruent with your lifestyle. in the past black people used to be ridicuiled and people use to use the bible to defend themselves interpreting it the wrong way and using it to step on them. the same as now.
@chuckisgaga blackholes weren't known to man,until it was discovered.
but i could say the same about incest. does a person who likes incest has a biological/congenital defect? how do we prove that they have a problem? do you know?
but u feel that incest is wrong.u know its wrong.
there are some things that man cannot explain. it is the words and knowledge of God that guides us.thats my faith.
by the way,i dont hate homosexuals.i just think homosexuality itself is wrong.humans make mistakes
@faiz461 you may have problems accepting yourself. but just know that if you truly are gay, then only a guy will make your heart beat faster. when you watch two guys kiss, you know its all about love, nothing about lust. and you may not connect with it, but one day someone will step into your life. some guy who will accept you for who you are, and bring to life the meaning of indifferent love. then ask yourself, whats wrong with love?
@chuckisgaga Totally agree wit u man ! Thanks 4 all d explanation n stuffs. Im not good at deep theory n facts...lol..Perhaps u can find an answer to tat faiz guy...I will be worn out soon if there r more stubborn head ppl ...@@
and back to the point, you cannot relate incest to homosexuality. do you not see that in todays world it is fact that there are 2 kinds of attractions - homosexuality and heterosexuality. both of these form sexual orientation. both heteros and homos as well as human kind will fight against incest, as incest is not something biological. there is no predisposition in human beings to find siblings or parents sexually attractive particularly. your one stubborn mode of argument is flawed.
@chuckisgaga you lack information and general knowledge about incest.go look it up on wikipedia,and see the history about it.
someday,if not now,people will fight for incest. homosexuality was viewed as blasphemous,and now its "normal" or "biological". do u know that when a person is crazy in love,he really is crazy? overflow of dopamine. thats why they are willing to die,move mountains. watch discovery on science of love.
@faiz461 you seem to be very interested in the scope of incest, that you seem to use it as your only mode of argument when it is really a flawed concept to compare the both. incestual relationships or intercourse is performed by both men and women to both opposite and the same sex, therefore it is classified outside of this arguement of homosexuality and its acceptability and how sexuality is factually divided by 2 or 3 ways - homo,hetero and bi. go read up any psychological book .
@valentine5209 while people with no beliefs dont even have to be fair to their wives(or sex partners) since they are not obliged to do so,and they dont even have to marry a person to have intercourse with them.
they could just sleep with 3 girls today,and sleep with different 3 girls tomorrow(which makes it 6),and not even have to worry about getting the women pregnant,since there's no restrictions or rules about responsibility.
@faiz461 Well, as d world is getting modern, culture like tis is unavoidable d. Although i find tis culture bit extreme but i will not reject as long as there is still a limit but of coz i will not encourage it too. =) It will be same to be applied to gay/les/trans too, everyone must have their limit.
@Gemparkzz i dont mean to imply that all homosexuals are doomed to damnation.. we all make mistakes and have problems. but the best way is to overcome it.
@faiz461 Thanks 4 d understanding..=) I will prove to d world, prove to d God tat we homosexual r borned wit pure hearted too n will be more loving n be a better human being...As well as to be anti- racist..=)
@Gemparkzz Well, 4 ur info, my dogs r gay too naturally, i nvr encourage them but it jus happens...~ N 1 thing u dunno how anus is ur anus is capable to produce d semen fluid too except no sperm in it..=P
@faiz461 well, it is d truth if u r refering to d whole world, even wit rules, their personality n bad attitude has make d world bcome uglier ... But have faith, have faith tat no matter how bad a person can be, there is still a good part of him/her to be acknowledged..Tat makes d world filled wit diversity n at least d stupid me still believe d world can change..=)
im sorry,but i do not support LGBT rights.we live in a country which comprises of many religion and cultures,and our culture does not support this and views it as immoral.
because if you think lgbt is okay,then incest would be fine too,don't you think?
again,im sorry. but if you want to live with free sexual orientation,then you are free to live in america. no one will stop you there.
@faiz461 Well, sry to disappoint u, We homosexual is to live wit integrity n will be brave to come out more all over d world, tis is not a disease or some illness or virus, d no of homosexual is not increasing, jus tat more homosexual r coming out 2 stand up 4 their love 1. If u would relate rape, robe, incest, steal, sodomy, one nite stand/sex bebas, polygamy, drugs intake, etc as something wrong n immoral, i would DEFINITELY AGREE! But not homosexual who is fighting 4 love n rite..=)
@valentine5209 right now u think that incest is immoral. people back then thought homosexuality was immoral.
u think people in the future will still think that incest immoral? people in the states are fighting to legalize marijuana. as you all know,marijuana is famous for its abuse.
this is what happens when u have absolute democracy. letting the people decide for EVERYTHING isnt smart,because not everyone is smart.
@faiz461 Well, do u think incest is immoral? I do get ur point, ppl r fighting to legalize marijuana but it is beneficial in medical field but there lots of ppl who is goin to misuse it, tis is d human fault, not d fault of being democracy. Bout question of immorality, 4 ex - Muslim is allowed to marry more than 1 wife. 4 me personally (no offense), i think tat is wrong bcoz polygamy will only bring betrayal n sadness among partners n love cant be shared equally. Wat do u think personally?
@valentine5209 medical benefits,or just excuses of an addict?we do know that theres much higher percentage of abuse rather than people using it for medical reasons.
betrayal and sadness;spoken in a biased perception.dont you know that Prophet Muhammad married widows too?how is it bringing sadness when ur actually helping a single mother?
i admit that its very hard to be fair towards wives,but the best of men are those who treat their wife(or wives) the best.(from a hadith)
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p/s: to the guy who said that the 2004 tsunami is an act of punishment from God. I suggest not insulting the millions of innocent people and children who died that day by saying such horrible things! Who are YOU to pass judgment on anyone? If it really goes against your religious principles than let your so-called "God" do the judging, and stop trying to put Him out of a job. Geez.
Unrepentant homos or whatever unnatural sex fornicators are going to a place prepared for them and they are the one who should be very afraid, living as though there is no God.
Fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear Him which is able to DESTROY BOTH SOUL AND BODY in hell. Where He destroyed entire cities before for their sins (incl. mass homosexual practices) SODOM, Gomorrah, Admah and Zeboyim. Thats why we use the word sodomy now.
thanks Phang for celebrating diversity.. i certainly believe you've moved many individuals out there to believe there is hope for LGBT in Malaysia..kudos!
Brava! I salute you guys/gals for being courageous in taking a stand. It is certainly difficult to be anything but heterosexual in Malaysia, which is simply ridiculous, but unfortunately, that is the society we live in. Change needs time, and the courageous people to pioneer the difficult path. So, do keep up the great and brave effort!
No matter the ethnicity, religion, sexuality etc, all of us deserve a life lived in dignity.
dont challenge the Supreme God, or we will see the Malaysian peninsular being turned upside down and becomes the next Dead Sea like what happened to the People of Prophet Luth (Peace Be Upon Him)...
dont challenge the Supreme God, it is too easy for Him to do that. Just take lessons from tsunami 2004.
@hulago1234 so...all the people who died in the 2004 Tsunami were homosexuals? what about the earthquake in sumatra in october 2010? and the 2008 pakistani earthquake?
@gorgonzola231 i m not saying that, i said we SHOULD take a lesson from the disaster so we know how SUPERIOR is the GOD and how EASY for Him to vanquish those who did blasphemous deeds such as homosexual.
@hulago1234 how does homosexuality count as blasphemous, when blasphemy is the speaking profanely or sacrilegiously about God? And if you believe that God will punish homosexuals, then let him. If you are going to relate God creating disasters to punish homosexuals, what about the heterosexual people who got caught up in those disasters. I'm sure that if God wanted to punish homosexuals for any reason, He would do so without harming innocent people.
This is bull shit, you're just interested in not getting persecuted for having anal sex. i want to eat and smoke marijuana, also known as hemp. which has many benefits, Go do some research. I don't want my children to have anal sex, and i do want them to explore the benefits of hemp. But hold one over one catty of it, you get hanged. In Malaysia. For a natural plant which cannot be more addictive than cigarettes and causes a high not worse than alcohol. Alcohol drunk mean beat wives, children
Pang: As with other vids, u'r a true Malaysian hero. F the comments ever get u down, remember that. 1day people like u who were willing to risk ridicule, persecution & prosecution becoz ur speaking up 4 urself & ur fellow countrywo/men. Offering help, friendship & hope when others preach intolerence, rejection & sometimes even hate. & ultimately putting ur foot down & standing up for what's right. 1day there will b a society u helped build, who will recognise both u & the commentors 4 wat they r
Congrats Pang. Thanks for your courage and honesty.
doubleCcorrado 3 weeks ago
muka gila SEX!!! Laki sontot Laki.... binatang pun kenaL jantan betina.
adyseptember1 2 months ago
@IceHairi truth! . . .what else do u want,homos?enough already,u got what u want,u can have buttsex as much as u want,nobody cares...n now u want to commercialize homosexuality? what will u get from it?people will hate u guys more! so just shut up! there so many gays in malaysia, why cant u just live quietly?
firol19 3 months ago
@firol19 So now in ur mind gay is only = gay sex = disgusting = sex songsang n so on...In ur mind LGBT ppl is bout being dirty n sex? Wat do u mean by commercialize homosexuality? It is not an advertisement to encourage ppl to be homosexual , but to educate ppl bout being homosexual is not immoral, not an illness or wrong. Wat will they get from it? They do not wan anything but hoping for more ppl to understand them n acceptance for them. They r not fighting for having free sex wit same sex ppl.
valentine5209 2 months ago
@firol19 ..but to fight for same sex love n equality. They cant live quietly n happily bcoz there r alot of bullies will pick on them, parents who found out bout it might throw them out of their family, lead them to suicide n so on. Why would they wan to live under fear? Why can't they speak for themselves? Can u accept havin a relationship wit ur girlfriend secretly throughout ur life, hiding from ur parents n frens all away n be HAPPY? Come on, i noe u r not tat selfish, think bout it...=)
valentine5209 2 months ago
If there a lot of LGBT people in the world,the human population will decreace.Face it.When you in love you your own kind,there will be no off-spring.Don't try to make it up by taking a foster child.If LGBT is really legal,there is no child in this world.How can you make an off-spring with just men to men & women to women.Are you guys god or something.Or are you guy like the ameba who devide themself to make themselves many?
IceHairi 3 months ago
@IceHairi At 7 billion don't you think we should have some sort of cut off point to the human population at some point?
MarkisaxX 3 months ago
@IceHairi Come on...What u think LGBT is? A form of trend or illness tat will spread? Can u be influenced to love same sex ppl n not feel disgusting..Think bout it. N Y CAN'T homosexual ppl produce children????? They still have sperm n ovum tat works perfectly well as heterosexual did. They (men) still can donate sperm to d sperm bank for those who need it n they (women) still always can be a surrogate mother. There is no such thing tat children raised by Homosexual will be homosexual in d ..
valentine5209 2 months ago
@IceHairi ...future. If u think it will, u will jus imaging all over it. There is no need for a homosexual ppl to keep encourage their kids to be homosexual or else it is sexual orienta-ist d. Homosexual ppl do not hate heterosexual, but they wan acceptance from them only..
valentine5209 2 months ago
@IceHairi there are seven billion people in this world and population keeps increasing... gay people are 4% of the world... can u do the maths? o.o stupid...
applejoint100 2 months ago
it's too long for me to quote Michael Novoty's speech in last episode of QAF here =)
In short, ain't diversity was what this country was all about? Everyone is special and unique in his own way. Being different is what makes us all the same. It's what makes us family.
Thank you, warrior. Thank you, LGBT.
cruz5417 3 months ago
can i kick your face ?? fuck you gay & lesbian
famousxyz 3 months ago
sampah=gay n lesbo
hebat113 3 months ago
stupid gay
ezaidee 3 months ago
Being gay is a sexual preference. It is an abnormal choice and practice. I believe there could be a brain defect, hormonal imbalances or cerebral malfunction for an adult who is sexually attracted to the same gender. And it is also true, you can never understand how they think or feel because their 'software' is different or even mutant. Try to understand a PEDOPHILE ... you will hit the same wall. So to be fair, Seksualiti Merdeka must also allow pedophiles in their group ...
vdo18sx 3 months ago
@vdo18sx I think u reli need to read up some good facts. 1st, homosexual is not any form of disease or illness which had been clarified by scientist in the world. 2nd, u r slapping urself coz since u said they got brain defect or hormonal imbalance, how is tat it is abnormal choice n practice? R downsyndrome ppl having abnormal choice n practice as well according to wat u had said? =.= 3rd, pedophile is a type of illness, it is an action of harming others, tat is y they r not to be support n ..
valentine5209 2 months ago
@vdo18sx ..never will be... It is immoral to abuse or hurt others...
valentine5209 2 months ago
he got his point. he didnt choose to be that way, but this will not be acceptable yet in malaysia. so dont create any chaos in Malaysia.
TheAsyrafKhalid 3 months ago 2
gila...sistem badan lelaki dah sangat sesuai untuk perempuan...still nak cari pasangan laki gak...sila la berfikir sebagai seorang manusia..jangan la ikutkan nafsu je
kukucinta 3 months ago
yarkkk!!!ugly!
kobir80 3 months ago
By the way any of you out there has looked into the articles and research of this person Dr NE Whitehead
There's a downloadable e-book. Happy reading...
fadlyjd 3 months ago
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TheBlim004 5 months ago
Yeah and 80% of the HIV/AIDS males in Malaysia are straight guys whom get AIDS via prostitutes and other channels.
jeffreysetapak 8 months ago
Yeah and 80% of the HIV/AIDS males in Malaysia are straight guys whom get AIDS via prostitutes and other channels.
jeffreysetapak 8 months ago
This is a great video and we need to see more of these stories from Asia. You're a really cute guy and your boyfriend is very lucky. : )
Wit 11 months ago
if my religion says that people should wear a turban cause it's a sin to not wear one, and i approach turbanless people to wear one, would it be fair? its like me telling you ' wear a turban! you're sinning!'. your response would be 'what the hell, that doesnt make sense!'. thats exactly how we feel. we KNOW homosexuality isn't a practice, choice, or misbehaviour. it's a naturally occurring, and its scientifically proven and stamped NOT AN ISSUE. no matter how many ANALogies you provide.
chuckisgaga 11 months ago
[7.81] Sesungguhnya kamu mendatangi lelaki untuk melepaskan nafsumu (kepada mereka), bukan kepada wanita, malah kamu ini adalah kaum yang melampaui batas.
[7.82] Jawab kaumnya tidak lain hanya mengatakan: "Usirlah mereka (Lut dan pengikut-pengikutnya) dari kotamu ini; sesungguhnya mereka adalah orang-orang yang berpura-pura menyucikan diri."
[7.84] Dan Kami turunkan kepada mereka hujan (batu); maka perhatikanlah bagaimana kesudahan orang-orang yang berdosa itu.
o Allah,i have done my duty.
faiz461 11 months ago
@faiz461 I dun think so every detail in d holy book is wat it seems to mean. Bout d thing tat has been mentioned is only bout d lust part? wat bout d love part? it remained silent , same as d book of bible, so it still doesnt not justify d definiton of homosexual term we r using now is wrong as it is different from d past version...~
valentine5209 11 months ago
@valentine5209 i apologize for my mistake.
being gay isn't the problem,but acting upon it is the sin.
but,the question is,how many of you who are gay,but don't act upon your feelings and temptations? even kissing(mouth,of course) is an act towards homosexuality,which is a sin.
just to remind you,Lot's people weren't followers,but they were punished.
faiz461 11 months ago
@faiz461 Love is not jus a word, feeling tat to make it sustains n long lasting, it needs action, commitment n so on...so i dun feel anything wrong wit kissing or being intimate wit d ppl u love n loyal to...lol.. Punished? Punished by who? u mean law or God?
valentine5209 11 months ago
@faiz461 unfortunately 5.4/6.7 billion of the world isn't islam. i'm sure allah would be pleased with you, and your duties on youtube. all im saying is that, there are many religions in the world. and if one or two says something is a sin, it is impractical and illogical to think that the whole world should follow. this guy making this video isn't muslim. i am not. so i can have free gay sex as much as i want. and so can most of the world.
chuckisgaga 11 months ago
@chuckisgaga this discussion is about malaysia,not the globe. and you may do what you want,in america that is.
faiz461 11 months ago
@faiz461 that is true. i dont expect malaysia to have equal rights for gays or anything like that, cause its backward that way. in global conferences, countries like this are seen as having civil right issues and open discrimination. and my purpose on this thread is to tell you that homosexuality is not a choice, it is not wrong, and it is pefectly fine as supported by science and most of the world.
chuckisgaga 11 months ago
@faiz461 the top ten largest economies in the world, the largest countries in the world, all have got their share of gay rights. its so progressed that they're starting to allow marriage. they also happen to be the most advance in science. as of now, there are as many atheists as there are muslims in the world. if people like you impose and think homosexuality is wrong, more muslims will turn to become more atheistic at heart, and sadly disregard and beauty of islam. think about your approach.
chuckisgaga 11 months ago
@chuckisgaga believe what you want,but we just don't accept such acts in malaysia. feel free to live free in america,no one is stopping you.
faiz461 11 months ago
@faiz461 not only america, but a lot of the world. even india and china dont say homosexuality is illegal, and allow them to exist, but just no marrying rights yet. its like saying 'albino people are illegal'. doesnt make sense cause the state of being an albino is not a choice.
chuckisgaga 11 months ago
@faiz461 but yes. good job HATING homosexuals. you cannot say you don't hate them and separate the person from the action. even allah puts them together. with 'if you have sex with men, you are someone who has gone too far' then he encourages others to 'usir them'. he doesnt sit down and say 'oh i think the action is wrong, the people are fine'. so no matter how much you dont want to look lke a hater, you are a big hater. and you've got negativity in you. god doesnt want that, nor encouragesthat
chuckisgaga 11 months ago
@chuckisgaga i must say,that you are wrong.i don't hate the person because he is capable of change. but i still dislike acts of homosexuality.
and may i correct myself,that being gay isn't the problem,but acting on it is. but,the question is,how many of the people are gay but don't act on their feelings and temptations?
as you can see,the ayat's doesnt only apply to follower's,but also non-followers in a country.we can conclude that Lot's people we'ren't followers,but still suffered punishment
faiz461 11 months ago
@faiz461 homosexuality cannot be cured, or changed. this is FACT by ALL science. if you say it has been 'cured' and there are 'ex-gays', these people are conformists who are 'in the closet' or they were probably not gay itself in the beginning. the gays that dont act on their feelings and marry women, are the ones who commit suicide, and feel their lives to be worthless. god wouldnt want that.
chuckisgaga 11 months ago
as i said,u can practice ur own religion and traditions.but theres no way we would allow u to run around naked(for example) in public just becoz ur not muslim,and just because u want to. we have rules in malaysia,and we expect everyone to follow.
alternative,apply for permanent resident in the USA.like i said,no one is stopping u.
faiz461 11 months ago
@faiz461 being a homosexual and its actions are not a MORAL 'problem'. gay sex cannot be equated with running around naked. its an expression of attraction and love which are universal traits. you forget that the 'act of homosexuality' doesnt mean gay sex. it also means gay love. it also means holding hands, and the things you have no control over like your heart skipping a beat. these feelings cannot be caused by a woman for a gay guy. never in his life.
chuckisgaga 11 months ago
@faiz461 But to run naked is an attitude problem , where it is inappropriate act (well, 4 me i dun mind as long as d ppl around is ok xD) while being homosexual is not an act, so u cant relate an attitude wit sexual orientation to be viewed whether it is rite or wrong..
valentine5209 11 months ago
...nothing more than a love creature, evil-less soul, n will redefine wat d real homosexual is...
If u would refer d majority muslim will not ease wit tis i can understand, but i do noe tat there r quite no. of muslim r gays too, but it does not justify n to say they deserved to be cursed n condemned by majority muslim or even threaten to kill them! tat will only show God tat how uncivilise a man can be...~ i only believe purity love will win against hatred...=)
valentine5209 11 months ago
arghh... bala! bala!
Bhule1801 11 months ago
@Gemparkzz I apologised 4 d misuse of word "semen" in anus, well at least im correct bout d fluid tat will be released from anus after u r being stimulated.. Well, dun u noe tat ur anus r capable of reaching orgasm ? go have some research in wikipedia or watever website dude! Im not d idiot 1,but u r! ><
valentine5209 11 months ago
seriously dude, what makes you think shoving your dick up somebody's ass is not a breach of sexual morality? Do you think mankind is created to perform such despicable act of utter abomination?
Gemparkzz 11 months ago
@Gemparkzz Jus stop thinking gay = anal sex part will clear up ur mind a little n stop u from being so ignorant n write nonsense..~ To have sex or not is up to their decision n wat type of sex they wan is none of ur business, pls dun act like as though there is no sex or dirty stuff in straight mind tat u can judge d gay to be so disgusting in their sex thought.
valentine5209 11 months ago
@Gemparkzz put it this way.tomorrow if you got up in the morning and your body was a womans body, but your sense of attraction and brain are the same. you think you like dick? you would still digg chicks. but then the problem for you arises. how would you have sex with them? thats why lesbian women find ways to pleasure themselves and have sex. same for gay guys, and what is sexual morality? are you writing the moral code book? answer my question, how would you have sex with women if you are one
chuckisgaga 11 months ago
I would agree tat freedom of relationship is bad but tat will vary each individuals to understand n appreciate d value of a relationship.But tat does not happened jus in d west but all over d world include 3 main races of malaysia. But is tat wat u r thinking/viewing it as a part of homosexual ppl? I do admit tat they r some homosexual involved in all tis kind of stuffs but mostly work differently. Gay can still be loyal n faithful to their partners which is same as most straight can do to.=)
valentine5209 11 months ago
@faiz461 Of coz there r lots of ppl who will abuse it , but tis will depends on their government on how to handle it since they legalized it. Well, tats d part where we need to educate alot of ppl to not misused it.
i do not noe bout prophet Muhammad fact but u cant say to marry d single mother is d only way to help her, it can jus be merely an excuse. Plus with current society now, reasons to marry another girl wouldnt be coz of tat reason..~ It will be like *i wan more womens* thinking...
valentine5209 11 months ago
@valentine5209 and giving too much power to fools is a terrible thing to do.do you know that it only takes 8 hours to get a firearm licence in america,and do you how many people there are killed by firearms?
i didnt say marrying a single mother is the only way of helping her.and you are assuming that everyone of this time has bad intentions.
and you forgot,Islam limits men to 4 women(even with high restrictions,such as to be fair amongst them)
faiz461 11 months ago
@faiz461 @@...u r dragging d issue into some law issue tat is way too far liao...lol..i duno bout d firearm part but advance country do needs to take some sacrifice too. We twill jus have to learn to c tis part as something tat got pros n cons lor.
I mean jus based on wat u explained based on ur religion teaching la..I m not assuming everyone to have bad intentions, well i apologise, my bad. But tis is oso same case ma, u r assuming every gay of tis time has bad intention too, isnt it? =)
valentine5209 11 months ago
@valentine5209 its democracy,nonetheless.people will fight in the name of democracy,no matter how dangerous it is.for example,marijuana.whats next,heroin? meth?
its not a matter where homosexuals have bad intentions or not,its just that we dont accept any acts of homosexuality.love isnt wrong,its just that it has to be expressed in a moral way. we view homosexuality as out of norm(luar tabi'i) as to incest,for example.
as a conclusion,i think absolute democracy is a form of corruption.
faiz461 11 months ago
@faiz461 Well, i will prove tat homosexual love can be as morally correct as straight love do . At least im d one here who will marry my bf n live a happy life wit him. If God were once or still hate homosexual, but i will be one to change God's mind towards homosexual..I only believe God love everyone who has love in their heart n condemn those who have hatred in heart...=)
valentine5209 11 months ago
@valentine5209 and one day someone else will fight for incestuous love. they will say that incest can be morally correct just like straight love.
we do not believe that we can change God,but it is we who must change to follow God. we do not hate homosexuals,we hate homosexuality itself. just as one would hate evil.and as i said before,we accept love,but only in the righteous way.
concerning this situation,i suggest homosexuals to leave malaysia. muslims will not be at ease with this.
faiz461 11 months ago
@faiz461 Well, as i had said, Incestuous love will not win 4 any rite even they wan to fight it bcoz it is not bout gender sex love problem, it is out of LGBT, tat is incest, love ex a father wit his daughter? who d heck will support them 2 be husband n wife??? There will be no organization or anyone bside themselves will fight only, so pointless.
To follow God will or not, it is still something we cant noe wat god reli think. God's will can n may change ... n i will prove tat homosexual is....
valentine5209 11 months ago
@valentine5209 says the guy who lives in the 21st century. the people before the 20th century thought that homosexuality will never see the light of day.
as i would think,who the heck would support homosexuality? but it seems nightmares do come true. so will incest. because if homosexuality can be legalized,then why cant incest? becoz its immoral? wasnt homosexuality immoral before?
i dont know which religion you are,but the monotheistic faith all believes the sin of homosexuality.
faiz461 11 months ago
@faiz461 you are extremely wrong saying that monotheistic faith all believes in sin of homosexuality. hindus, buddhists, one of the oldests religions in the world do not deem homosexuality as SIN. in fact, there is even recognition of third gender (this is for biologically ambiguous sexual organs) and in greek culture as well as ancient western and eastern art, homosexuality is explored and is expressed frequently. go read the works of plato.
chuckisgaga 11 months ago
@chuckisgaga monotheistic faith = abrahamic religion,which doesnt include hinduism and budhism. in fact,budhism doesnt even believe in God,while hinduism believe in gods.
greeks also believed in polytheism.
just for the record,rukun negara = kepercayaan kepada Tuhan,not Tuhan-Tuhan. but since Islam tolerates freedom of religion,we don't mind budhist and hindus. but we just dont tolerate homosexuality.my advice,dont push ur luck.
faiz461 11 months ago
@faiz461 are you kidding me? a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. hinduism doesnt belive in polytheistic faith, and has its sets of view on homosexuality on its own. this is as dangerous as saying muhammad had relationship with siti aisyah which is considered as being a pedophile. which is clearly wrong to think. you cannot throw remarks such as 'all monotheistic faith believes homosexuality is sin'. your knowledge scope covers only one perspective and lacks an open view.
chuckisgaga 11 months ago
@chuckisgaga i know they believe in a supreme God,but they worship whatever form they want. as to Islam,we believe in the One absolute in power,unquestionable.
i should correct myself to "abrahamic faith",since hinduism is considered monotheistic,which doesnt fit Islamic definition of monotheism.i apologize for that.
faiz461 11 months ago
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valentine5209 11 months ago
@faiz461 Tat is different case d la bro... N 4 ur info , there is ady organisations tat support homosexuality even b4 20th century ...~As when u 1st heard d word gay, wat does it mean to u? Something as potrayed in d tv or movie?? A gay means sissy/ like pink/ free sex / soft/ like to molest or touch other? Come on...Grow up n try to reli understand d gay community.. Although im gay, but im not as potrayed in d movie, im still a man, masculine n like guys stuff, jus tat i like guy... who d ...
valentine5209 11 months ago
@valentine5209 ur assuming that i think gay = sissy.
same as incest,has been practiced in the royal families.
wouldn't homosexuality destroy family relationships too?
as i said,its still a theory,and with controversy.
and homosexuals are a group of higher risk of AIDS,therefore cannot donate blood in the US,also UK and europe.
u think incest is wrong,just like i think homosexuality is wrong.
and just like incest,they still "love" ea other,still capable of "judgement",and work.
faiz461 11 months ago
@faiz461 well, tats wat i thought of wat d media or most ppl had in their mind la... I dunno wat bout d incest tat had been practiced in royal families BUT it is not to be supported anymore in our world anymore isnt it? Y wouldnt homosexual destory family relationship? tis is bcoz it doesnt affect btw d house members who r havin relationship. Mayb some parents cant accept homosexual n disown their children, but tis is not homosexual problem , tis is parents problem tat they need to learn to ...
valentine5209 11 months ago
@valentine5209 i think u might be wrong on incest.its actually getting more popular these days.just like homosexuality 50 years ago.
so the parents are at fault because they can't accept their son? why isn't the son at fault for not obeying their parents who have raised him since he was born? why isn't the son at fault for breaking his mother's heart? can't parents get a say in this?
faiz461 11 months ago
@faiz461 It might had get more popular ,still ppl like tat r not to be supported by any organization in d whole world nor any religion , it is not even a controversial issue, it is wrong in a sense, in religion way, law, medically n in every single way, so no point cont to compare incest wit homosexual bcoz d sub of love is different...~
It can be d parents fault, it can be d children fault depend on wat matter, if it is d son who is gay n being rebellious n do not love his parents, then he...
valentine5209 11 months ago
@faiz461 ...can be only counted as d wrong 1 as he is being unfillial to his parents. BUT if he is jus being a gay son n still love his parents n care for them, it wouldnt be their fault coz d parents reject them b4 they even try to understand d situation n being judgemental or either too focus to maintain the family "image"(which i hate d most><) If a parents reli love their children, they should study d situation 1st b4 they came out wit a conclusion n blamed us for breaking their heart..~
valentine5209 11 months ago
@faiz461 ..grow up too to learn to accept their children which actually doesnt bring any harm unless their child indulged in immoral activities like havin free sex, bcome alcoholic,smoker n etc... Bout d issue of homosexual r of higher risk of getting AIDS, actually d chances to get AIDS r d same among straight n homosexual. Tats y u shouldnt take it as homosexual is wrong as a reason as tis can happen to straight too. I personally who is gay, is faithful to my partner , so do my partner to me,
valentine5209 11 months ago
@valentine5209 i didn't make things up about AIDS.
"The United States currently prohibits men who have sex with men from donating blood "because they are, as a group, at increased risk for HIV, hepatitis B and certain other infections that can be transmitted by transfusion."[109] The UK [110] and many European countries have the same prohibition.[109]" - wiki
faiz461 11 months ago
@faiz461 I noe y d chances of a gay to get HIV is higher. it is bcoz normally they dun use condom to practice any sexual act. They neglect d use of condom bcoz they tot it is unnecessary as their partner cant be pregnant.. BUT as long as u stay loyal to ur partner n dont go out multiple sex partner n so on, it is still consider safe.. It is jus same to straight, if a straight is being a good person n didnt practice any 1 nite stand, problem like tat wont occurs too. Thus, it is unfair to judge..
valentine5209 11 months ago
@faiz461 homosexual is wrong based on d AIDS issue. A straight can be easily get AIDS too if he simply have sex with other ppl. Tis is more on immoral act/attitude, thus u cant relate it wit homosexual as homosexual is not an act, it is an orientation, it is not wrong unless d attitude of an homosexual is wrong/immoral..~
valentine5209 11 months ago
@faiz461 .n i still can donate my blood proudly tat im still a HIV - guy, i did body health checks b4 too. Im a perfectly healthy guy.=) ok, since u said tat u r an ex-gay...would u tell me in detail bout ur story? I m interested to noe bout it...i will be glad to tell u mine too..Well, i saw an interesting video bout an ex gay pastor in malaysia too.. But i can see tat he was nvr a homosexual b4 but more to trans type, therefore still a straight. Hav a look if u r ...
valentine5209 11 months ago
@faiz461 free..jus go search edmund lawrence smith (gay can change) . His case is definitely different from me. I always wanted to be a man n nvr regret bout it, jus tat i love a man...D feeling, d sexual desire i have to men had been existed since i was a 5-6 years old boy. Everytime i saw a nude man photo since i was tat young, i ady capable to erect as i was sexually stimulated by it.. I nvr realised it not till i was 16. i did like girls b4, but it was not love, jus tat i admired...
valentine5209 11 months ago
@faiz461 ..them. i knew tis bcoz i nvr fantasized anything romance/intimate like kissing n so on to a girl when i was in "love" with them. Tats wat make me realised tat i nvr love girl but jus like them. Unlike d feeling to a guy, d feeling is different in a way tat it is warmer, d grow of desire tat u wan to noe tat person more n go deep into relationship n develop more...^^ Im 20 now anyway..hehe
valentine5209 11 months ago
@valentine5209 well,we do have a relationship with our brothers,even sometimes willing to die for ea other.the extent of the brotherly love.
but we don't see it as a way to express ourself in a sexual manner.loving another guy like a bro is totally fine(encouraged too),but loving another man as one would to a woman is not.
i mean,i love my friend(a girl) so much tht i wished i was a girl just so i could hug her.i do want to,but i don't act on it. hope u get it :3
faiz461 11 months ago
@faiz461 but ultimately you will find a proper way to hug her freely and in an approved manner, maybe just like your religion says, after marriage etc.. UNFORTUNATELY gays dont have the institution of marriage. so people reduce their attraction to sex and more sex. this is wrong. there is so much love the same way, you would love a girl and want to hug her. we also can limit ourselves, like me, i've only decided to be intimate with someone after me and him are so close, and commited.
chuckisgaga 11 months ago
@faiz461 D thing u talk bout u wish u be a girl so tat u could hug her is different. I myself have no problem bout my gender issue, or any barrier issue( being abused by anyone) or even any vacuum issue ( to be loved by both parents) n so on. D only thing is i see myself as a guy n love a guy who acts like a guy. Tats how i define gay. 4 me, it doesnt include drag n transsexual as their soul r trapped in d opposite sex body n love towards same sex. They can only be considered as straight...
valentine5209 11 months ago
@faiz461 ..heck will support homosexuality? alot la bro... Beside homosexuality themselves, there r alot of straight will support us too, including all my frens tat i had came out too..~ N y keep mentioned bout incest pulak..?=.= OK! wan noe wats wrong wit it? It is WRONG bcoz IT WILL DESTROY A FAMILY RELATIONSHIP! U will change d relationship in a family n bcome husband & wife/ vice versa(homo)...2nd, as mentioned by Chuckisgaga, had been medically proven wrong, d child u will get from d ...
valentine5209 11 months ago
@faiz461 ..close relationship (ex-dad & daughter) will be borned wit illness/deformed/down syndrome n so on... TATS Y IT IS WRONG n cant be legalised no matter wat happen...~ It is immoral coz u will cause deep hurt btw d members as it involves them n give impact on them on d relationship while homosexual cant be considered immoral as we jus love someone of d same sex. Family might not be able 2 accept it 1st, but it shall be acceptable 1 day later as they understand their gay/les child more...
valentine5209 11 months ago
@faiz461 ..they would noe tat their child is no different from b4 they discovered their child is gay/les and after they discovered it.. Their child still can be a vry good person u get tat? There is nothing reli bad bout homosexuals except tat d media worsen it n potrayed a wrong image bout it....Dun always think bout d sex part la, against d nature la n so on...>< One's nature r to be changed. N my nature is im gay, i had tis sexual desire to men since i was like 5 or 6 years old, so if im ...
valentine5209 11 months ago
@valentine5209 we muslims are thought to love our brothers like we love ourselves,but not in the other kind of way. if thats what u meant by love,then we already have it. its just that we have limitations.
as a matter of fact,i've had a relationship with a boy when i was 14.he was the only guy,and whenever i think of him,i do kinda get turned on,but i control myself the best i can,because i know all us have our vices. some people maybe with alcohol,some with smoking.
ur talking to an ex-gay.
faiz461 11 months ago
@faiz461 LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, are we hearing this right? you claim to be an ex-gay? an EX-GAY? okay wait, no judgement, have you watched this? youtube.com/watch?v=PooEhBxh0NY im so disinterested at any argument about whether being gay is wrong or not, because i know it isn't. and slowly the world is recognizing it to be perfectly fine. you have your reasons to convince yourself that it is something that isn't right when science is proving it to be fact that it is not a problem that can be
chuckisgaga 11 months ago
@faiz461 equated with alcohol problems, incest, or murderer psychopath. the sooner you realize this the better. you only have one life to live. the only reason people are fighting for gay marriage is so they can be more moral with it. maybe practice post-marital sex. at this point, you might be confused, or you might've hidden your feelings deep within. you need to know that this is unhealthy. god wouldnt want you to face suppression and depression. you must realize that his words were written
chuckisgaga 11 months ago
@chuckisgaga can u tell the anatomical difference between an incestuous person and a homosexual?
people who commit incest don't have congenital abnormalities,only their offspring.
so u think premarital sex is immoral? lets see how many people agree with u.so far only me.what about the west who fought for homosexuality?
faiz461 11 months ago
@faiz461 yes.studies have shown that homosexual men have smaller hypothalamus than heterosexual men. incestual people dont have medical facts/science to prove anything for them.if you dont have any desire for any other guy, and like women sexually then you're not gay,were not gay.so you wouldnt understand.being gay means the male sex organ will only get erected for another man.this cannot be due to 'channeling' of feelings. its natural. you canot DECIDE/BLOCk that.
chuckisgaga 11 months ago
@chuckisgaga were they born that way? i've read articles that says homo n hetero men are born the same,but develop differently afterwards.
means that something happend while growing up.
faiz461 11 months ago
@faiz461 yes they were born that way. i ask you something, if its about development, then why didnt i turn out straight when my parents are straight. the same way gay couples children turn out straight even if the parents are gay. also why would ANY one CHOOSE to be gay?
chuckisgaga 11 months ago
@faiz461 imagine this: a kid is in school. he is only 14 years old, the time when all kids get curious and start checking women out. but he realizes that he has no feelings for women at all. he sees openly gay kids get beaten up, and he is affected internally. they cry themselves thinking why god made them like that..now i ask you: why would someone CHOOSE to be GAY, when theres SO much opposition? you think they think its cool to be gay and different?
chuckisgaga 11 months ago
@faiz461 in context with the times of the past. The message is never everlasting. If men were advised to do whatever they want and not wed a woman or be with her in the past, who knows, there might've been a lack of population, lack of growth. but times are different. fast forward a hundred years from now and this battle, this argument is nothing. it would be a norm for gay people to marry and adopt, because it would be alright. the whole institution of marriage is invented by mankind.
chuckisgaga 11 months ago
@faiz461 the whole context of what is right and wrong and normal and abnormal has been defined by people. that is why you believe and equate homosexuality tendencies to be a problem like alcohol, or incest. let me stress this one more time. incest is something that is medically, and scientifically proven abnormal and there is no natural tendency in human nature to like a sibling or mother particularly. at first glimpse, a human beings eyes detect other human beings eyes and scan to see whether
chuckisgaga 11 months ago
@faiz461 they're physically normal and whether they are closely related to us. if someone happens to look extra like us,our brain tends to know they;re related to us, and 'tells' us not to pursue or go after them in a wrong way. for your own good, why would god want he, who has attraction for men, to sleep with a woman. you'd have to use your thoughts to imagine a man while having sex with a woman. so what would you do? thoughts are sometimes worse than actions cause god resides there as well.
chuckisgaga 11 months ago
@chuckisgaga i believe that we believe in different Gods.ur opinion of God clearly contradicts mine.u might not even believe in God,since u dont use the capital letter.
thats what people thought in 1952,that homosexuality is a disorder. and thts only a handful of people.i hav the tendency not to have intercourse with a male,rather than females.
faiz461 11 months ago
@faiz461 being gay means you can stare at a naked woman, and have NO interest at all, even if you try. there is no such thing as an ex-gay. god created gay men and straight men. the same has been observed in the animal kingdom. some beings go against the so called 'norm' and express desire/attraction to the same sex. and btw, not hating a homosexual means you allow him to respectively be and act upon what his sexual orientation is.
chuckisgaga 11 months ago
@faiz461 im sure god wouldnt mind if you reassured to yourself the meaning of your life. explore your sexuality, tell him you are going to offer truth in replacement with fear of sin. one bold value for another not so bold value. then seek love that makes your heart beat. just enjoy the nuances of love. this doesnt mean sex. if it doesnt go right, then whats wrong, go back and ask for forgiveness. you would be an experienced heart and more sure of your truth right?
chuckisgaga 11 months ago
@chuckisgaga i'd rather suffer and face my own vice,and hav salvation,rather than opposing God and enter hell forever.
God is forgiving,but what i i were to die before i get the chance to ask for forgiveness?
God is light on his creatures,but we believe that we should not take him lightly.
i believe having relationship with that 1 guy was a my test of faith.
p/s:it was only him.i never had any desires for any other guy.
faiz461 11 months ago
@faiz461 How can u fully say tat a gay will definitely go to hell? I believe d world is full or diversity n sexual orientation is only a part of it. I believe as long as i can be a good homosexual n free of immoral activities, n love n loyal to my partner, then i will not go to hell... But if i was to be judged to go hell after my life, i will still have no regret... U said u only had a desire to a guy b4, tats perhaps only a phase , a matter tat u were too close wit him...there can be plenty..
valentine5209 11 months ago
@faiz461 ..of reasons 4 tat. Well, tis case happened to my bf's fren. He is always interested in girls except to a close good fren(male) of him. Therefore, u cant consider him as a homosexual as basically he still feel disgust 4 d gay sex thinking part but still love his close fren(male). Thus, 4 ur part im not clear n would like to noe more bout it n how it happened..=)
valentine5209 11 months ago
@faiz461 i am a gay guy. this means i think sexual intercourse with a woman is disgusting. this is not because of my morals, or influences. its because of the way i was born. maybe, like i explained, the chemistry of my body is different. now how is it fair, if a heterosexual male is allowed to express his needs, or his sexual desire (before or after marriage) , while i cant? god encourages love. god created all man, and he created me. so if i wanted to love, why would he condemn me?
chuckisgaga 11 months ago
@faiz461 ..forced to change my sexual desire from men to girl, it will against my nature !! Dun worry bout d judgement day, if there will be d day, it wouldnt bcoz of d world full wit homosexual tat human face extinction, it will bcoz of natural disaster. If u wanna say tat homosexual desire can be influenced n so on, u try to change ur feeling to love man n sexually attracted to them, if U CAN, i salute u n i WONT BE GAY anymore !!!! Im buddhist but take christian teaching, im free thinker!
valentine5209 11 months ago
@faiz461 what is all this nonsense about incest relating to homosexuality? attraction is something you cannot control. scientists in the world have come up with studies showing that it is scientific for human beings/ the whole animal kingdom to have attraction to members of same sex. and this is being related to biology, and soon will be a fact that it is not a choice etc. and its not wrong. because of people like you, people suffer from suppresion and ultimately commit suicide.
chuckisgaga 11 months ago
@chuckisgaga the same as attraction to one's own blood.if u read,incest has been practiced among the royal families of the west,to keep their blood "pure". so much for western culture.
believe what you want.they do say that love is blind.and sometimes one cant even tell that the woman he's been having sex with is his own mother,or even his own dad.
as i said,we muslims still tolerate ur freedom of religion.dont push us too far.
faiz461 11 months ago
@faiz461 you really dont know what you're talking about. incest is defined as sexual intercourse between persons too closely related to marry. Homosexuality is an attraction, and attractions are born from within, and are biological. Sexuality is not divided into heterosexuality, homosexuality and incest. Incest is a wrong practice because it is scientifically, medically proven as wrong, and is often the result of as you said, preserving blood, rather than natural attraction.
chuckisgaga 11 months ago
@faiz461 i ask you, tomorrow you grow up get a wife, have a son or daughter that IS gay, what are you gonna do? you gonna try and TEACH him/her moral principles? you must understand that homosexual attraction and their actions based on those feelings, are not lifestyle related or a moral act. so if you decide to not allow your gay son to have those feelings, he might just be psychologically suppressed, and incase you dont pay attention to statistics, chances are he will commit suicide.
chuckisgaga 11 months ago
@chuckisgaga well,as a muslim,i believe homosexuality is a sin.even if my offspring are born psychopaths,which give them the urge to kill,that doesnt mean i will teach them to kill,to soothe their feelings. and psychopathy is a real congenital problem,unlike homosexuality,which is still just a theory,and filled with controversies.
statistics where? in the united states? note that they are not the majority muslim. u might wanna look statistics in a practicing muslim family/region. (syria?)
faiz461 11 months ago
@faiz461 you cannot equate a son that is a homosexual to being a psychopath. homosexuality is not a psychological disorder by ANY science in the world. It used to be, till research was done, and now it is morally wrong and illegal to diagnose a homosexual as having a PROBLEM , or illness. This is worldwide, do your research and google 'is homosexuality a disorder/illness/psychological problem'. you really have to start broadening your reading scope.
chuckisgaga 11 months ago
@faiz461 you are by far the only person who thinks homosexuality is a THEORY. are you kidding me? and for you own, good, when you're reading your holy book, try and read all of it, and you will see a lot of things deemed as sin, and see if it is congruent with your lifestyle. in the past black people used to be ridicuiled and people use to use the bible to defend themselves interpreting it the wrong way and using it to step on them. the same as now.
chuckisgaga 11 months ago
@chuckisgaga blackholes weren't known to man,until it was discovered.
but i could say the same about incest. does a person who likes incest has a biological/congenital defect? how do we prove that they have a problem? do you know?
but u feel that incest is wrong.u know its wrong.
there are some things that man cannot explain. it is the words and knowledge of God that guides us.thats my faith.
by the way,i dont hate homosexuals.i just think homosexuality itself is wrong.humans make mistakes
faiz461 11 months ago
@faiz461 you may have problems accepting yourself. but just know that if you truly are gay, then only a guy will make your heart beat faster. when you watch two guys kiss, you know its all about love, nothing about lust. and you may not connect with it, but one day someone will step into your life. some guy who will accept you for who you are, and bring to life the meaning of indifferent love. then ask yourself, whats wrong with love?
chuckisgaga 11 months ago
@chuckisgaga no,i like women just like a normal man.
it has lust,included with love.
love isnt wrong,it just has to be channeled properly. just like fire.
faiz461 11 months ago
@faiz461 for your own good watch this cartoon, its an educational documentary youtube.com/watch?v=PooEhBxh0NY
chuckisgaga 11 months ago
@chuckisgaga Totally agree wit u man ! Thanks 4 all d explanation n stuffs. Im not good at deep theory n facts...lol..Perhaps u can find an answer to tat faiz guy...I will be worn out soon if there r more stubborn head ppl ...@@
valentine5209 11 months ago
and back to the point, you cannot relate incest to homosexuality. do you not see that in todays world it is fact that there are 2 kinds of attractions - homosexuality and heterosexuality. both of these form sexual orientation. both heteros and homos as well as human kind will fight against incest, as incest is not something biological. there is no predisposition in human beings to find siblings or parents sexually attractive particularly. your one stubborn mode of argument is flawed.
chuckisgaga 11 months ago
@chuckisgaga you lack information and general knowledge about incest.go look it up on wikipedia,and see the history about it.
someday,if not now,people will fight for incest. homosexuality was viewed as blasphemous,and now its "normal" or "biological". do u know that when a person is crazy in love,he really is crazy? overflow of dopamine. thats why they are willing to die,move mountains. watch discovery on science of love.
faiz461 11 months ago
@faiz461 you seem to be very interested in the scope of incest, that you seem to use it as your only mode of argument when it is really a flawed concept to compare the both. incestual relationships or intercourse is performed by both men and women to both opposite and the same sex, therefore it is classified outside of this arguement of homosexuality and its acceptability and how sexuality is factually divided by 2 or 3 ways - homo,hetero and bi. go read up any psychological book .
chuckisgaga 11 months ago
@valentine5209 while people with no beliefs dont even have to be fair to their wives(or sex partners) since they are not obliged to do so,and they dont even have to marry a person to have intercourse with them.
they could just sleep with 3 girls today,and sleep with different 3 girls tomorrow(which makes it 6),and not even have to worry about getting the women pregnant,since there's no restrictions or rules about responsibility.
look again to see the difference in discipline.
faiz461 11 months ago
@faiz461 Well, as d world is getting modern, culture like tis is unavoidable d. Although i find tis culture bit extreme but i will not reject as long as there is still a limit but of coz i will not encourage it too. =) It will be same to be applied to gay/les/trans too, everyone must have their limit.
valentine5209 11 months ago
@valentine5209 but only so many people are having limits.. the ugly truth is,humans without rules and guides become more like animals.
faiz461 11 months ago
@faiz461 worse than animals cause even animals know the actual function of anus...
Gemparkzz 11 months ago
@Gemparkzz i dont mean to imply that all homosexuals are doomed to damnation.. we all make mistakes and have problems. but the best way is to overcome it.
faiz461 11 months ago
@faiz461 Thanks 4 d understanding..=) I will prove to d world, prove to d God tat we homosexual r borned wit pure hearted too n will be more loving n be a better human being...As well as to be anti- racist..=)
valentine5209 11 months ago
@Gemparkzz Well, 4 ur info, my dogs r gay too naturally, i nvr encourage them but it jus happens...~ N 1 thing u dunno how anus is ur anus is capable to produce d semen fluid too except no sperm in it..=P
valentine5209 11 months ago
@valentine5209WTF!! Are you kidding me? Thats a myth... go back and learn biology you idiot...
Gemparkzz 11 months ago
@faiz461 well, it is d truth if u r refering to d whole world, even wit rules, their personality n bad attitude has make d world bcome uglier ... But have faith, have faith tat no matter how bad a person can be, there is still a good part of him/her to be acknowledged..Tat makes d world filled wit diversity n at least d stupid me still believe d world can change..=)
valentine5209 11 months ago
love is free, cuz it's blind..
vincaztel 11 months ago
im sorry,but i do not support LGBT rights.we live in a country which comprises of many religion and cultures,and our culture does not support this and views it as immoral.
because if you think lgbt is okay,then incest would be fine too,don't you think?
again,im sorry. but if you want to live with free sexual orientation,then you are free to live in america. no one will stop you there.
kind regards.
faiz461 11 months ago
@faiz461 Well, sry to disappoint u, We homosexual is to live wit integrity n will be brave to come out more all over d world, tis is not a disease or some illness or virus, d no of homosexual is not increasing, jus tat more homosexual r coming out 2 stand up 4 their love 1. If u would relate rape, robe, incest, steal, sodomy, one nite stand/sex bebas, polygamy, drugs intake, etc as something wrong n immoral, i would DEFINITELY AGREE! But not homosexual who is fighting 4 love n rite..=)
valentine5209 11 months ago
@valentine5209 right now u think that incest is immoral. people back then thought homosexuality was immoral.
u think people in the future will still think that incest immoral? people in the states are fighting to legalize marijuana. as you all know,marijuana is famous for its abuse.
this is what happens when u have absolute democracy. letting the people decide for EVERYTHING isnt smart,because not everyone is smart.
once u realize this sad fact..
faiz461 11 months ago
@faiz461 Well, do u think incest is immoral? I do get ur point, ppl r fighting to legalize marijuana but it is beneficial in medical field but there lots of ppl who is goin to misuse it, tis is d human fault, not d fault of being democracy. Bout question of immorality, 4 ex - Muslim is allowed to marry more than 1 wife. 4 me personally (no offense), i think tat is wrong bcoz polygamy will only bring betrayal n sadness among partners n love cant be shared equally. Wat do u think personally?
valentine5209 11 months ago
@valentine5209 medical benefits,or just excuses of an addict?we do know that theres much higher percentage of abuse rather than people using it for medical reasons.
betrayal and sadness;spoken in a biased perception.dont you know that Prophet Muhammad married widows too?how is it bringing sadness when ur actually helping a single mother?
i admit that its very hard to be fair towards wives,but the best of men are those who treat their wife(or wives) the best.(from a hadith)
faiz461 11 months ago
@valentine5209 talking about partners,i believe that the people of the west believes in freedom,which includes freedom of open relationships.
isnt that worse than polygamy,since u could hav more than just 4 partners? maybe even 10,or 15 partners at once.
faiz461 11 months ago
We love ur spirit! Phang!!
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markgerardy 1 year ago
lol.. u all better died.. crazy..
ariel2922 1 year ago
Love is Love. And Love does not discriminate.
Great video! Keep up the fantastic work!!! :)
p/s: to the guy who said that the 2004 tsunami is an act of punishment from God. I suggest not insulting the millions of innocent people and children who died that day by saying such horrible things! Who are YOU to pass judgment on anyone? If it really goes against your religious principles than let your so-called "God" do the judging, and stop trying to put Him out of a job. Geez.
julizy 1 year ago
i just wanna say... amen... and praise God..
mariatinaza 1 year ago
Why so sad, Pang?
goldestfinger 1 year ago
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Unrepentant homos or whatever unnatural sex fornicators are going to a place prepared for them and they are the one who should be very afraid, living as though there is no God.
Fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear Him which is able to DESTROY BOTH SOUL AND BODY in hell. Where He destroyed entire cities before for their sins (incl. mass homosexual practices) SODOM, Gomorrah, Admah and Zeboyim. Thats why we use the word sodomy now.
goldestfinger 1 year ago
thanks Phang for celebrating diversity.. i certainly believe you've moved many individuals out there to believe there is hope for LGBT in Malaysia..kudos!
papasaloi 1 year ago
Good on you .......!!! You are a very brave individual......Good Luck
MegaJazB 1 year ago
Brava! I salute you guys/gals for being courageous in taking a stand. It is certainly difficult to be anything but heterosexual in Malaysia, which is simply ridiculous, but unfortunately, that is the society we live in. Change needs time, and the courageous people to pioneer the difficult path. So, do keep up the great and brave effort!
No matter the ethnicity, religion, sexuality etc, all of us deserve a life lived in dignity.
tenoh27 1 year ago
you are so charming :)
kangbaihu2010 1 year ago
Well done. Keep strong
SinjoroEng 1 year ago
lets just wipe this kind of people out of this world.. lets make war, not abnormal love.
alllives 1 year ago
dont challenge the Supreme God, or we will see the Malaysian peninsular being turned upside down and becomes the next Dead Sea like what happened to the People of Prophet Luth (Peace Be Upon Him)...
dont challenge the Supreme God, it is too easy for Him to do that. Just take lessons from tsunami 2004.
hulago1234 1 year ago
@hulago1234 so...all the people who died in the 2004 Tsunami were homosexuals? what about the earthquake in sumatra in october 2010? and the 2008 pakistani earthquake?
gorgonzola231 1 year ago
@gorgonzola231 i m not saying that, i said we SHOULD take a lesson from the disaster so we know how SUPERIOR is the GOD and how EASY for Him to vanquish those who did blasphemous deeds such as homosexual.
hulago1234 1 year ago
@hulago1234 how does homosexuality count as blasphemous, when blasphemy is the speaking profanely or sacrilegiously about God? And if you believe that God will punish homosexuals, then let him. If you are going to relate God creating disasters to punish homosexuals, what about the heterosexual people who got caught up in those disasters. I'm sure that if God wanted to punish homosexuals for any reason, He would do so without harming innocent people.
gorgonzola231 1 year ago 2
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buangbatu 1 year ago
hey whats with the soft n slow voice ah pang? :)
shefah78 1 year ago
This is bull shit, you're just interested in not getting persecuted for having anal sex. i want to eat and smoke marijuana, also known as hemp. which has many benefits, Go do some research. I don't want my children to have anal sex, and i do want them to explore the benefits of hemp. But hold one over one catty of it, you get hanged. In Malaysia. For a natural plant which cannot be more addictive than cigarettes and causes a high not worse than alcohol. Alcohol drunk mean beat wives, children
mykenmoon 1 year ago
Pang: As with other vids, u'r a true Malaysian hero. F the comments ever get u down, remember that. 1day people like u who were willing to risk ridicule, persecution & prosecution becoz ur speaking up 4 urself & ur fellow countrywo/men. Offering help, friendship & hope when others preach intolerence, rejection & sometimes even hate. & ultimately putting ur foot down & standing up for what's right. 1day there will b a society u helped build, who will recognise both u & the commentors 4 wat they r
NilEinne 1 year ago
Is there a reason why your video is the only one that is 5 minutes and 52 seconds? *furrows eyebrows* lol.
senticles 1 year ago
I STILL LOVE YOU showm3thetruth....I LOVE YOU! MUAH!
alekzand 1 year ago
@alekzand
kan tak betul ko ni hmmmmmmm mereng otak ko kah kah kah
showm3thetruth 1 year ago
@alekzand This must be the most fascinating fall out from a Love-Hate relationship I have ever seen in a comment section.
seksualitimerdeka 1 year ago
@seksualitimerdeka
its better to treat ignorance with ignorance...hey lets make love not war...hehehe
alekzand 1 year ago
@seksualitimerdeka
oh yeah and u as a hypocrite delete all my comment oh well typical of u people
showm3thetruth 1 year ago
9th!
DavidEdwardSchnell 1 year ago
mr pang when u say u got to do something why not try for you to change not for other people to change
showm3thetruth 1 year ago
Great job, Pang! Thanks for sharing this with us. You are an inspiration to everyone! Hugs! :-)
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