Taboo, yes please. Revolution, no thanks. {Response to xNightshadex} READ DESCRIPTION

[SarahGailCotton]

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Marry me?

[xXWilleWaloXx]

Ugh. Its Christian's like Shade that give the rest of us the label of being close-minded gay-haters who think we are better then everyone else and want to censor everything. Fuck it, if she was a REAL Christian and not a Hypocrite she'd know if you really wanna be Jesus like you LOVE and ACCEPT everyone, not go around condemning them all.

TABOO FOREVER. :D

[TheNerdyCanuck]

@xXWilleWaloXx I love you

[EmoCandehz]

OMG I HAVE THAT SAME PANDA! LOL

It folds into a pillow ha ha

[rent8907]

I just thought her major issue was that younger audiences can accidentally find them, idk i like both genres Shade is my favorite artist out there and the fact is not many videos "show" sex yes it is hevaily implyed but never shown.....

[disenchanted987]

Absolutely agreed, trying to censor content that really doesn't do anyone any harm isn't a revolution, if anything it's tyrannical! I say they don't do any harm because, to all intents and purposes, they're DRAWINGS. Not that I'm dissing editors, completely the opposite, I love what they do. Really agree with your point about giving a different angle to characters. I am constantly amazed when an editor can make me think 'wow I never thought so-and-so could be made to look so evil/tragic' etc

[ThatLameGirl]

I watched this entire video all 13 minutes of it :) I think ur voice is nice. I don't mean that in a creeper way. But! May I just say! D: I'm Christian, like, actually go to church and enjoy it kind of Christian ;) And I will tell u right now, I have no problem with homosexuals. Although I may not support the choice, I give them the absolute respect for who they are. If they are in love then they are in love :) Just thought I would let u know there ARE Homosexual loving Christians out there! ;)

[TheNerdyCanuck]

@ThatLameGirl Thanks. And I realize that the majority of Christians are kind, non-bigoted people.

[slylover123]

HELL YEAH FIGHT FOR THAT TABOO

[BartzK5]

Dude, agreed. And I'm going to post my own video in response to all this bullshit as well. This is stupid. I agree with you.

[Medusa0999]

I agree with you 100 %

[xSavingNeverland]

I respected your opinion and saw your side of the argument until you pretty much ripped me down as a person. It was lame, for lack of a better word. You have no right to criticize where I stand in the gay-debate. You don't know me. My bestfriends are gay. I love them. I've helped some get out a lot of these hellish situations. That doesn't mean I can't disagree. I've done nothing to stand in the way of their progress, passions, pursuits, etc. 

[xSavingNeverland]

@xSavingNeverland If anything, I've encouraged them, stood by them. So don't try to make me out as some kind of homophobic, Bible-thumping monster. It doesn't fly. FYI. I never wanted to bring up the gay debate. Note that I say nothing about slash in ANY of my vlogs. It was brought up by commenters who happen to assume they know something about my background. I put the little blurb to set them straight. Ha. Pun intended? By the way, way to take something completely out of context.

[xSavingNeverland]

@xSavingNeverland Being a minority was not something I said in relation to my views on homosexuality; it was in relation to freedom of speech. You obviously can't read, thus-- Argument is invalid. Should I go get a panda? Next, revolution; the word.

[xSavingNeverland]

@xSavingNeverland I have a habit of noting that people who focus on targetting semantics and political correctness do it because they don't want to address the points being made with them. Anyways, revolutions are ideological. That's where they start; in the mind. My vlogs made people think about, or at least acknowledge something that may not have come to mind before.

[xSavingNeverland]

@xSavingNeverland They made viewers more aware of what they're viewing so that they don't continue to do it in false consciousness; it affected change. So yes, revolution. Also, good or bad is a reflection of ethics and morality; you see something one way or the other depending on where you stand. So you stating that the revolution is purely bad isn't valid. More panda?

[xSavingNeverland]

@xSavingNeverland Last thing, and this is what makes you look very, incredibly stupid; calling me a Jesus-freak. I don't go around saying 'you're all going to hell, heathens!', so who's really the prejudiced one? Instead of assuming Christians are looking down on you all the time, why don't you actually get to know some since you obviously don't know any?

[xSavingNeverland]

@xSavingNeverland Hate to say it, but you just cemented the atheist stereotype that all atheists are insensitive Bible-bashers. Ditch the attitude and stop being so closed-minded. PS- I noted that you only addressed the issue of sex, not violence or pedophilia. Your stance?

[TheNerdyCanuck]

@xSavingNeverland Then I suppose you didn't watch the entire video. I covered pedophilia extensively in my vlog. And I support violence in crossovers too. I just don't support pedophilia and violence in real life.

[TheNerdyCanuck]

@xSavingNeverland Wait... so you're annoyed that I'm politically correct? You do realize that your entire "revolution" is BASED on political correctness, right?

[TheNerdyCanuck]

@xSavingNeverland Then that was your fault for not making it more clear. If you believe that artistic endeavors and freedom of speech should be severely limited then yes, you are the minority.

[KawaiiTessa]

Well said

[xKlomyselfx]

i agree with everything you said  =D

[PaleLittleGirl1]

well said!!!!!! :) i agree with everything you say.

btw, i think the REAL problem is the fact that yt is 13+...and that isn't enforced very well.

[Phantombucketmouse]

You are a smart lady. Subbed.

[PFXProductions]

My said, shes Trolling [Nightshade not Nerdy.C] and shes trying steal peoples subbers..thats what think shes all blogs and stuff I told her about..

[xSavingNeverland]

@PFXProductions Right, PFX. You're always quick when it comes to stabbing me in the back.

[BrokenDarkFire]

need people to fight for its existence, because I 100% believe that putting an artist in a cage is the worst cruelty imaginable. A censor or ban is a cage, no matter how good the intentions. I would rather die than live in a cage (though I won't kill myself if taboo is banned. I would die, though, if someone put me in a birdcage). However, what bugs me is this - why can't those editors who make taboo crossovers form their own group especializing in taboo? It pretty much eliminates the problem.

[BrokenDarkFire]

This came off more like a rant than an factual argument, which admittedly does make it hard to take it as seriously as Nightshade's video. That being said, I agree with most of what you said. I definitely support taboo, because it sends a message, it begs people to understand the pain the characters suffer, and it's our reality. It's the truth. And yes, sadly, though they are classic, the boy/girl crossovers have gotten old. I'm also very glad you've made this video, because taboo does

[xSavingNeverland]

@BrokenDarkFire I agree. Never make a video in anger. It's stupid. I'm just seeing this 'rant' now, but thanks for commenting.

[PhreakOutBigTime]

Why are you saying sorry if people hate yo'? Nightshade didn't appologize, and youre just saying your opinion.

Not that im a taboo supporter (geez that sounds like you guy are all lets do incest and pedphilia wtf),but im neither fully on nightshades side either

You both have good points, and in a way this 'revolution' IS good. not for the result it might have or the division in the editors, but did you really think about all this before she brought it up? Maybe, but im sure loads of people hadnt

[xSavingNeverland]

@PhreakOutBigTime Thanks! That was mostly, the point of it!

[xXForeverRoseXx]

DAMN STRAIGHT. OH MY GOSH. I LOVE YOU. XD

[wjrfec41]

all I have to say is.....AMEN

[hollie1911]

bless :} subbing*

[happyasacalm]

I don't know. The first one that I saw had a warning... in the description... and it did make me nauseous... it loaded before I saw the description, I usually just watch videos without seeing the description. I support your suggestion that people add a warning to the beginning of their videos rather than actual censoring of content. Just my two cents. (Although there was a scene in that one Lolita crossover that was naked and, you know. Actual sex. Not making out.)

[JessicaHeartsCain]

Once I realized that you were bashing shade I had to turn it off. Yes people have the right to express themselves but you said these people worked so hard on their vids and I'm not saying anything wrong about them except their topic I have seen some amazing taboo vids on here but they shouldn't make these in the first place then they won't be turned down. And you said sex was beatiful, your right it is but not with children. That's just not right.

[TheNerdyCanuck]

@JessicaHeartsCain Not bashing Shade, just bashing her totalitarian attitude. When I said sex was beautiful, I didn't mean for the videos involving pedophilia. I meant that for the videos involving two adult characters having sex.

[xSavingNeverland]

@TheNerdyCanuck Totalitarian. Right. Speaking out to a large number of people in a convicted manner gives off that vibe, doesn't it? As for the sex argument, you really should have expanded. You should have thought about all the points instead of posting this as a rant.

[xSavingNeverland]

@JessicaHeartsCain Thanks for coming to my defense. Just saw this video now. I've responded. Thanks again.

[MicMic18]

Being an artist means you have to be open to criticism. As a graphic design major I always got my butt kicked for my work even when I have worked so hard on it.

Think about what the pedophilia and incest videos are actually portraying. Would you watch it if it was a real situation? Think of how someone who has been sexually abused as a child feels when a video like that is made with Disney and child molestation is made light of. Telling a story is one thing but promoting it is another.

[SerenitysSilence]

And if you're looking so closely at Disney movies, Ariel is a mermaid and she is 16 in mermaid years, which means she could be hundreds of years old. But I agree with the Frollo thing, that was a dark movie

[SerenitysSilence]

Leave it to people to take something so simple as a Disney story and make it a controversy. It's a mad world we live in. Also, I agree that you shouldn't take away someone's artistic freedom, but child pornography is any way, shape, or form is not acceptable. There is nothing "beautiful" about stealing a child's innocence.

[xSavingNeverland]

@SerenitysSilence Thank you, I agree with you

[XenaChi]

Can I add, you make a lot of good points in this, very good points. The problem most have is the censoring aspect Shade is trying to do. People who don't like these vids can just avoid them! Also Jim etc may be what 16? But in the UK and many other places that's a legal sex age so Shade applying sex age restrictions just to America's rules is stupid!

[xSavingNeverland]

@XenaChi Gosh, I don't know how much I've said this, but I'm not American. Thanks.

[XenaChi]

Couldn't agree more!

[imaginethatt]

Amen.

[LilMissDizzy14]

Dude. I agree with EVERYTHING you say.

I'm kind of new to the whole situation but I understand what's going on and I think it's rediculous! I was getting ready to start my own Non/Disney crossovers, and I was interested in editing some taboo things. FFFFFF this whole situation is just aslkjfkasjd lol I'm still subscribed to Shade but i'm still making my mind up about that... I'm seriosuly starting to get a vibe that she thinks because she's so popular, she can get away with saying such things.

[TheNerdyCanuck]

@LilMissDizzy14 Oh definately. She pioneered a lot of crossover techniques so now she thinks she owns the whole community.

[xSavingNeverland]

@TheNerdyCanuck Right...that's totally what I think. God, you people are immature.

[melsibrith]

I, personally, just don't like that the sex is viewable for anyone (ie, children), to see. Children don't know what "taboo" means! At least, my 4 siblings don't.

I want them to be able to look up "Disney" on youtube and not get a bunch of smut. That's all I want.

Child porn isn't OK. Incest is illegal. How is pedos and incest in Disney any better?

PS Yes, we need sex to survive as a species. But do we need sex tapes to survive? Food for thought.

[ebolaoutkast]

@melsibrith Ok. Manipulated Disney 'sex' videos are not as bad as actual child porn o_0

But your last sentence rocks.

[melsibrith]

@ebolaoutkast I agree. But children usually don't look up sex videos. They do look up Disney, though. I just don't want to take any chances.

And thanks. :D

[xSavingNeverland]

@melsibrith Amen to that!

[PFXProductions]

RIGHT ON <3

[Devychan]

I completly agree with your oppion and everything you said. I dont understand where shade is getting her whole 'Holier then thou' mentality at all. its really annoying to me. Im very glad there is people like you stick up against her. personaly im more so for the 'taboo' videos rather then fluffyness.. i think what she said against gays buged me the most about her video being a lesbian myself...i just gotta say i havnt found your videos before till now but you seem like a really cool person ^^

[KittyKyomi]

I for one agree with everything your saying. You dont like it, dont watch it. Pedophelia is out there, and just bc somoene makes a video about it doesn't mean they condone it. aslo, about the censorship. Artists DO hav the right to portray thier art. If you really look on youtube you can find much wors videos then a crossover between phoebus and Alice. I thought Nightshade was cool too. unfourtunaly she doesn't have as open a mind as some people.

[SerenitysSilence]

@KittyKyomi So having an open mind means you're ok with pedophiles? Just because there is worse out there doesn't mean it's ok. Somethings you shouldn't have an open mind to.

[KittyKyomi]

@SerenitysSilence

I believe you interpreted my message incorrectly. I said " there is worse things on youtube then a crossover of phoebus and alice" refering towhat shade said about things like that digsuted her and should be removed from youtube. I also said 'because someone makes a video about that doesn't mean they condone it" meaning that just because I made a video with ariel and frollo, it doesn't mean I think a sixteen year old girl should go out with 40 year old guy.

[Animashed]

Not sure where the gay thing comes from, because being gay is not taboo, its just..being gay.

But yes- - an artist is an artist, and (with warning) they have the rights. Last time I checked there was no law ageist it.

[MikomiShizuka]

@Animashed Homosexuality used to be considered a taboo. Some people still think it does.

[TotallySuperCoolAwsm]

OMG i feel like i'm on the warpath today; this is getting out of hand. firstly, the vlog, calm down, like holy shit. secondly (and i feel like i'm adressing this for the 5th time today, not that i am intentionally speaking on behalf of xnightshadex but this i find hiighly irritating) why is everyone addressing the thing about homosexuality?? it's NOT relevant to the situation at all. people see an open window to lash out at one of these evil 'homo haters' and jump right the hell through it

[TotallySuperCoolAwsm]

@TotallySuperCoolAwsm "They go through HELL because of people like you". people like WHO? i mean, i wasn't going to comment until you said that. the accusations, they astound me. what has xnightshadex said or done to demonstrate any type of -dislike- or discrimination toward gay people? i mean can you point it out to me because i think i missed it? did she ever say that gay people didn't have the right to be gay? i don't think so. people need to get over the fact that not everyone is going to

[TotallySuperCoolAwsm]

@TotallySuperCoolAwsm agree with a gay lifestyle, ESPECIALLY if it negates a lifestyle they personally believe in. there's nothing wrong with wanting to be a 'good christian' and follow biblical morals in present day. me? i don't give a damn about the bible and i sure as hell don't give a damn about any religion at all, but i recognize when people do and i respect that. its the way they choose to live. respect the fact that she's one of the few who have the ability to disagree yet still

[TotallySuperCoolAwsm]

@TotallySuperCoolAwsm can coexist with these people, i.e her saying she has gay friends and gay family members etc etc. yea, it looks like a common excuse. "I'M NOT RACIST! I HAVE A BLACK COUSIN!" and yea, 9 times out of 10 it's a bullshit excuse, but i can, as clear as day, mind you, recognize the fact that this is not some bullshit excuse. i don't see how anyone can't see that she's being sincere. you don't know her stop judging her and stop putting words in her mouth

[TotallySuperCoolAwsm]

@TotallySuperCoolAwsm and oh my, do i spy a contradiction? ok let's see. you noticed she was a jesus freak, you tend to stay away from those (yea me too because -in most cases- people preaching to me about heaven hell and my sins gets on my nerves as well). your text "not because i hate (let's for the hell of it, insert some new words) "gays (or gay rights activists)", it's because most look down on me "or point fingers at me" for "disagreeing with their lifestyle". and i'm sure this is where

[TotallySuperCoolAwsm]

@TotallySuperCoolAwsm she gets off calling herself a minority, from a LOCAL stand point (youtube). nearly all of us are freedom loving liberals. clearly you have a distorted impression of her, and it's understandable, i suppose, because i recognize most people around here are like that. they feel like they're part of an underpriviledged group, whether they're looked down upon, criticized for their hobbies beliefs whatever, or even teased on a regular basis, who the fuck knows, but because of

[TotallySuperCoolAwsm]

@TotallySuperCoolAwsm this people feel the need to attack anything REMOTELY opressive. anyone who looks REMOTELY like one of these opressors of their daily lives; you strike back instantly, and in this case, without much of a thought about what is going through the mind at the other end. there is no malicious conduct here. i agree her suggestions are on the extreme side but seriously, everyone needs to calm down and stop attacking her, ESPECIALLY because of this sexuality thing. its a difference

[TotallySuperCoolAwsm]

@TotallySuperCoolAwsm of oppinion in her case and that is all. now, i'm sorry that had to go off on a tangent like that (though your video is about 13 minutes long and i watched the whole thing so i'll assume the length is forgiven) and i apologize if it appears i'm attacking you, but i'm getting really tired of people attacking her all at once just because they feel they can, and i'm tired of her being posed as this evil person. its an assumption you're making and it's a very lame thing to do

[xSavingNeverland]

@TotallySuperCoolAwsm I agree. Thank you.

[TheNerdyCanuck]

@TotallySuperCoolAwsm On the description of her first "taboo" vlog, she mentions that she thinks homosexuality is wrong. She has every right to think that. What I didn't like was how she called herself the minority because she was against homosexuality, and how she said she wasn't a homophobe because she wasn't cruel to gays (while she has every right in the world to feel that being gay is bad, thinking that way is still homophobic.) I didn't like how she was trying to play it down.

[TotallySuperCoolAwsm]

@TheNerdyCanuck thinking that way is not "homophobic"; to be homophobic or to have homophobic thoughts literally means "to have a fear of gays", which I'm more than positive she does not. Nowadays people add all sorts of connotations to the word 'homophobe'. Disagreeing is not being homophobic. And how else do you want people to react when they're acused from all sides? Her reaction was a normal one

[xSavingNeverland]

@TotallySuperCoolAwsm Thank you so much for remembering that I'm a human being! So many have seem to have forgotten that -_-

[xSavingNeverland]

@TotallySuperCoolAwsm Thank you so much for commenting on this...Seriously. It means the word to me. Words cannot express the thanks I have for what you've done for me. Thank you so much...

[ebolaoutkast]

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[WindWolfProductions]

I'm a christian but i love watching and reading dark stuff! I think it's wonderful to see all the different stories you can make with crossovers :) this whole censorship thing is ridiculous! I agree that every artist should be able to make whatever they want, whatever it should be! I agree with you 111000000004637461984864160374­80% :D

[frawst04]

Yeah yeah!! The taboo vids don't encourage the actual taboo, but it adds a deepness. It may not be a good kind of deeper meaning, but it provokes a reaction. Aren't books, films and art all about reaction - good or bad? What's the point in looking at these things if they do nothing for you. I agree agree agree with YOU!

[frawst04]

There is no nakedness, so no need for censorship :) You're right :)

[mcrlover666lover]

i get all distracted by your panda LOLOL but i agree :)

[GoldDragonflame]

I'm sorry the whole sex thing made me crack up sex makes baby - that's what im going to tell my nieces and nephews when i get some (i dont want kids lol)

anyway i think the whole taboo thing is weird and i agree with the whole dont like dont watch thing

btw love the hat

[RavenxxRosexx]

Took the words out my mouth :)

[im4400]

I'm sorry, but making the pairings incestuous/pedophilia doesn't make a pairing more "interesting" or "unique".

[thejobloshow]

Sex is good, censorship is bad. This we must agree.