Vatanam Vatanam . Shaghayegh Kamali وطنم وطنم (شقايق كمالی) ٭

[bahmanjazuyeh]

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[nohurmusefull]

Nyaz beh doost daashtane harkesy nadaareem! 15000 saal tarikhe sabet shodeh daareem!

We have historic fact for at least 15000 years history, with name of first king of cavemen Kayumars who migrated from north asia to south toward Iranzamin ( iranland ). we learn from each other.

[misagh84]

oon 9 nafar ke dost nadaram vatan foroshand

[feelsorrowcz]

excellent video.

[trexx700]

Iran film

[aerolooper]

By the way if you would ask me why i didn't give the definition of humanity, it is because there is no certain definition for humanity values are subjective from world view to world view. BUT! I can quiet assuringly define what is not humane for the unhumane matters are universally as they are so. No one can call a creature that is furry, walks on four legs and meows, all the while having a long tail a human being as no one can call prodding people into prostitution a humane act!

[aerolooper]

What is against islam? That what u call against islam is Qoran itself! I guess you meant to say this concept is against humanity? Yes, keeping the act of prodding people into prostitution out of penal legislation concepts is surely against humanity but -very unfortunately- this approach of keeping the act of prodding people into prostitution out of penal legislation concepts is something that is inherently existent in Islam's main doctrination source Qoran. Islam, is against humanity my friend.

[aerolooper]

By the way, i did not say anything about the practicality of islam. In fact, i genuinely believe that islam is very practical... just only for bullies, tyrants, pimps and a-like.

[HomayunShirzadeh]

جون و تنم وطنم وطنم



[HomayunShirzadeh]

@Diosade افرین برادر۔ مولوی فرمودند: بر سماع راست ہر کس چیر نیست+ طعمہ ہر مرغکی انجیر نیست

[Assyrianland2]

I am Assyrian and i am proud that i was born in Iran! dorood bar Iran!

[anikgol]

@Assyrianland2 long live assyrians of Iran! doroob bar iranzamin!!

[aram2441915]

@Assyrianland2 I'm half Iranian  and half Armenian, like as you I love the persian civilization and be proud to have Iranian friends

[amin6990]

eh 6ta GOOSALE dislike kardan!

[amlord68]

sedash be darde in sorud nemikhore :(

[aerolooper]

@007opfe Muhammad was a politician at best, but not a prophet... or else what kind of prophet, do you think, would bring a holy book in which numerous kinds of brutal punishments for various kinds of crimes exist but forcing someone to prostitution is completely out off penalty and is recommendably forgivable*?!

*Surah Nur ayat 33

[HomayunShirzadeh]

@aerolooper You are right that Muhammad was not a prophet but i will add HE WAS MORE THAN A PROPHET: Muhammad PBUH.. is a Rasool which has wide meaning in Arabic, he is prophet as well as law giver. He PBUH esatblished a full working government in 23 years which changed 6 aspect of society: beliefs, rituals, prayers, economy, social structure and political structure... so you are right he was not just a prophet

[aerolooper]

@HomayunShirzadeh yeah, a law giver who has constituted laws like cutting the hand of the thieves and flailing the lovers outside marriage AND ALSO not only keeping foohoosh, forced human sex slavery out of any penitiary legislation concept (though -recommendably- discouraged as it exactly says in surah nur ayat 33) but also giving the abominible act a God-sanctined pardon, which, in effect, nullifies any discouragement. I guess some of his close friends were "pimps" by occupation.

[HomayunShirzadeh]

@aerolooper Thanks fro your comments. Say for a second I agree with you that Islmaic law is worse and not practical if that is what you mean ( the situation is differnt what you have refered to and we will re-visit that) . Now you have pointed a flaw, so please come up with a solution: What should be the punishment of a theif based on your judgment. keep this is mind that punishment serves 2 purposes: to keep the crime rate low and to preserve human rights. GO AHEAD!!

[aerolooper]

@HomayunShirzadeh First of all, In a law system, there should be no room for one to say "I maybe trafficking human beings as sex slaves by the spear's tip but (supposed) God doesn't mention about any punsihment for guys like me in his holy book and on top of that God tells guys like me are forgiven straight away by HIM in spite of my ominiscently pervert action; SO WHO ARE YOU TO PUNISH ME?!!" Besides this, the pubishment for such act should at least be imprisonment.

[aerolooper]

Imprisonment that is the standard procedure against such act in most countries today, thanks to that those countries are not ruled by bully-protecting islamic law. 

[HomayunShirzadeh]

@aerolooper Thanks again for ur comments. I did not ask what is standing procedure in most counteries( I know that ) , I asked what is your judgement. If you relate things to authority ( different counteries) without any logic and a Muslim does the same.. it is the same thing with difference of magnitude. You should have a thought process. u have no idea about Islamic law at all, but the trouble is in this world there is no country today which practices Islamic law.. not even a single country.

[aerolooper]

@HomayunShirzadeh So. You asked for my judgement, & also it seems you only "looked" at my words but did not actually "see" them, missing the meaning. (As I presume no one could be that much vain, this attitude is set on purpose) 'Tis true that I have mentioned about real-world and man-made law systems but before adding any say bout the authority-wise relation to the idea which I've conveyed, I've also stated that punishment for bullying people into prostitution sholud at least be imprisonment.

[aerolooper]

@HomayunShirzadeh and imprisonment that is, sanctined as punishment all the while keeping the punishable act out of any authority sanctioned pardoning except by the affiliated.

[aerolooper]

@HomayunShirzadeh Also this should be noted that, contrary to your attempt of conviction, I am not into aproving the punishment of slave-driving just because it is worldly authority sanctioned. I only mentioned about real world authority to point out to the "common sense of healthy humane justice" that is the basis of such authority sanctioned legislation; and sense of justice that is, non existent in bully-protecting Qoran.

[aerolooper]

@HomayunShirzadeh In a law system, there should be no room for one to say "I maybe trafficking human beings as sex slaves by the spear's tip but (supposed) God doesn't mention about any punsihment for guys like me in his holy book and on top of that God tells guys like me are forgiven straight away by HIM in spite of my ominiscently pervert action; SO WHO ARE YOU TO PUNISH ME?!!"

[HomayunShirzadeh]

@aerolooper U are shying away from my question.. I want to find out how will U coin the law and what will be the mechanism.. It is easy to criticise with emotional langauge but to bring forth solution, u start beating about the bush. I said, I agreed that Islamic laws are useless( for argument) now what do u suggest shd b the punishment for a theif. once u suggest ur punihsment v will put it to the test and see if it passes that!!! if u want to start a futile discussion.. Then I am sorry.

[aerolooper]

@HomayunShirzadeh I didn't question the severity of the punishments for I truly believe that they may be deemed "necessary evil". My intention, WHICH I THINK IS CLEARLY VISIBLE, was to point out to the fact that although there are a variety of punishments in Qoranic legislation, there is none for slave-driving people into prostutition.

[aerolooper]

@HomayunShirzadeh The act that is, although recommendably discouraged thus maybe deemed as having a clearly cited negative label in Qoranic view, but also being in an elevated position by a leverage which nullifies the discouragement. Qoran is a legislation book according to which a slave-driver-pimp, when borught to trial, has THE LEGAL RIGHT to say "even God doesn't bestow any punishment for me and DECLARES GUYS LIKE ME ARE TO BE OVER-LOOKED so who are you to punish me?".

[aerolooper]

@HomayunShirzadeh So... As clearly put, there is someone who is shying away, trying to drive the discussion into obscurity but that is not me. Words are to be beholden, the ones you and I recite here!

[aerolooper]

@HomayunShirzadeh By the way, I see that u are persistently asking for my suggestion in the matter of penalties in substitute of islamic law and especially winding the questionary around concepts of existent socially penitiary legislation topics such as theft. So, hereby I exclaim: This be known, I've no quarrel with any of the punishment measures cited in Qoran. What bothers me along as I protest is not the presence of penal measures but rather lack of it in the matter of forced prostitution.

[aerolooper]

@HomayunShirzadeh And I think I have most certainly stated my opinion on the matter of the precudure to be applied in place of islamic law which is lacking the department of the penal legislation measures against forced prostitution: "punishment for bullying people into prostitution should at least be imprisonment"

[aerolooper]

@HomayunShirzadeh Yet, not only Qoran lacks any measures, but also it advises that bullies who force people into prostitution sholud be over-looked.

[aerolooper]

@HomayunShirzadeh Qoran is pimps' and slavers' heaven.

[aerolooper]

@HomayunShirzadeh The discussion topic here ISN'T the existent penal topics in Qoranic legislation or substitutions to be counted in place of such existent subjects. Contrary to your attempt of driving the discussion away from it, the discussion topic here is SOLELY "the lack of measures to be executed against the person who forces people into prostitution and what colud be the replacement to islamic law (not merely as a substitution but as an utter and complete succession) in such case".

[HomayunShirzadeh]

@aerolooper I agree with you there boss... it is against Islam and I support you in tnat argument. I started this thread when you pointed out "Muhammad was a politician at best, but not a prophet" and I replied that Muhammad never preached a religion, he preached a way of life and that is what i stand for. take care and have a nice day.

[aerolooper]

@HomayunShirzadeh That what u call against islam is Qoran itself! I guess you meant to say this concept is against humanity? Yes, keeping the act of prodding people into prostitution out of penal legislation concepts is surely against humanity but -very unfortunately- this approach of keeping the act of prodding people into prostitution out of penal legislation concepts is something that is inherently existent in Islam's main doctrination source Qoran. Islam, is against humanity my friend.

[HomayunShirzadeh]

@aerolooper OK. now define humanity for me and tell me who is for humanity.. this time stick to the point. Take any aspect of society ( economical, political, social) and tell me who is not against humanity. the problem is we all are humans and humanity is relative a variable.. what that is for humanity by you might be against humanity by other ( this sample might not have heard about Quran at all). you are generalizing things in a faulty manner.

[aerolooper]

@HomayunShirzadeh There are matters in the universe which may be classified as being part of the natural victor and loser relationship even though such matters may seem vile. In my opinion being subjugated into prostitution is not one of those matters. Besides this it seems that even Qoran is disapproving such act so I deem that it should be feasible to consider such act as being devoid of critical variablity and thus being universally bad.

[aerolooper]

@HomayunShirzadeh In spite of this embedded disapproving approach, Qoran not only lacks any effective preemptive measure against such atrocity but also offers liberty to the person who makes out a living from slave-driving people into prostitution.

[hamid00456]

kheli ghashang mishe ba sedaye 1 zan

[reemaasem]

Wishing the freedom for all our nations,Arabs, Persians, Kurds, Armenians chineese....whatever the language and religion...we are all humans and as Omar Alkattab said We are all born free not slaves and I wish one day it will happen.....from wounded Iraq

[AmirArProductions]

@007opfer where do you get those numbers my friend?

If it was 80% that are real muslim we won't have all the protests in Iran, and khamenei wouldn't kill any people :)

It is 90% of Iran who is against the goverment, reason being we didn't got our country yet is becaus they Hire Foreign policemen to kill us.

But We Gonne Rise Again And Again And Again AND AGAIN

..Till We Get What We Want!

[AmirArProductions]

@007opfer I won't support them, i will fight them, becaus America will take over Iran if they get the oppertunity.

This war is OURS, not America's.

[AmirArProductions]

@007opfer No, i am not Zartosht

I'm muslim, and i hope that you know how came we are now muslim.. by force, Iranians didn't want to be, but Arabs attacked our land and burned down our Holly books..

We maybe are Muslim, but we will always stay Zartosht in our hearts.

[emcedion]

@AmirArProductions

Excellent, You're not Alone, My dear Compatriot!

[AmirArProductions]

@007opfer Well.. if there is no evedince of history left in few years, who goin to know our history?

That is what i mean. Piramids will stay forever there, but persepolis is allready half burned down and now khamenei is fucking it up.

Non of our kings think they are god kings,

Like people say Xerxes portrayed himsellf as a 'god king', but thats not true becaus,The prophet of Zartosht came before Xerxes, So Xerxes was Zoroastrian, He believed in only 1god.

[AmirArProductions]

@007opfer ok.. if you like him.. first learn to type his name correctly :)

I hope you know who's destroying all of our great history :)

I readed things you said and i see you like Cyrus The Great aswell, well khamenei steals the treasure that are in our formers kings their graves.. Thatsc not only disrespect for our kings.. thats like he spits on every history that we have.

[parastu1001]

besiar ziba , sedaye delneshini dare ,,,,,, sepas ,,,,,, dar zemn in khanom shirazi hastand ?

[AmirArProductions]

Long live Iran, And Death to Khamenei

[Soroosh0]

این سرود صدای مردانه می خواهد. یا خانمی می بایست بخواند که تن بالایی دارد یا یک مرد. این خانم صدایش را نمی تواند بالا ببرد!

[gandibaldi]

I don't understand if it's fascist or what else...being italian I don't understand this lyric...but it's funny !!! It sounds like a nice traditional song. But reading some commentary I wonder: when will you stop to hate each other among Kurds, Parsi, Zartosh, Shi'a and so on? It's time to look at the future, the past it's covered by blood !

[kamm66]

@gandibaldi This is a nice lyric over homeland Iran. Iran is a multicutural country. you have right absolutly.

[kohaniran]

@Nmrod557

We are not fascist and we love our kurd brothers

[Nmrod557]

bzhy kurd nafrat la farsy fashest

[zarigh]

@Nmrod557

You are a savage Wahhabi not an Iranian Kurd

[WAQWAQSAHAB]

javid baad vatanam....ba chango dandan az to defa mikonim ey irane sarafraaz

marg bar amrika marg bar esrail

PIROOZO PAYANDEH BAAD MIHANAM IRAN

[Georgpole]

Javid baad mihane hamisheh zendeh va zendeh bad hamyeh mardome iran dar har kojaye kake mihan

[TheMrszahra]

besiaar zibaa

[babooghotbi]

Besiar ziba bood. Sepas.

[mikaelourak]

بنظر من این صدا با این موسیقی وریتمش همخوانی وافری دارد و شاید گفت بهترین اجرا است

[RezaSalaam]

FUCK SHAH! FUCK POLITICAL MULLAH! FCUK ANY EXTREMIST! JAVID MOSADEGH! FREE IRAN!

[DoJaenin]

tarane-ye ghadim kheili ziba bood wali in yek behtar ast... Shaghayegh Kamali awaaz-e ajib darad.