Well, first off Luca is supposed to be Gaea, not Cloche. As far as the manga is concerned anyway. But I'm pretty sure they both understand normal hymmnos. From what I understand you undertsand basic hymmnos when you awaken as a revatail.
Anyone else wonder how Cloche could be affected by this song? Jacqli is singing this song in the general Hymmnos Dialect...Yet Cloche can't understand normal Hymmnos, and only In/Outputs in New Pastalia Dialect.
@Darknightleo18 IPDs can understand the normal Hymmnos dialect without a problem, Infel Phira acts as an emulator and instantly translates any Hymmnos dialect into New Pastalia for IPDs, making it understandable. It's weird, but that's why they can use any word from any dialect in their hymns, but the ones added to the Third Tower after the Grathnode Inferia.
@BetaTypeJakuri Ah, alright. Thanks for clearing that up for me. Don't know where I heard the whole can't-understand-regular-hymmnos thing from, then. :x
@Darknightleo18 maybe it comes from the fact that normal Reyvateils, like Luca, can't understand New Pastalia? It would've made just as much sense for IPDs to be in the same situation with normal Hymmnos if not for the instant-translator thingy.
Jesus, guys, get over it. You're comparing a real life historical figure to a fictional magical singer born and raised in a fictional magical world. Do you realize how much that makes almost no rational sense at all? Besides, Mir went through actual traumatizing shit, Hitler on the other hand was just an angry emo because he got rejected by an art school and suddenly blamed all of his misfortune on the Versailles Treaty. That's that so you should leave it at that.
LOL Neph9, LOL. That comment is just hilarious, I thought exactly the same! xD
Mir is nothing like Hitler, because she is - as much as I got to know her in At2 - a good person deep inside. Now stop comparing my beloved Mir to that unrelated dude!
To you guys talking about hitler and mir... how does doing what you believe to be right make you an evil person? Who have the right to judge that? Hitler did what he believed to be right, he wasnt evil, just a fked up person whom most of us hate ^^'
Mir was controlled by her emotions, her hatred took over and pretty much created its own personality. It was first after that her true self had been able to surface abit that she realised her error.
@chrnokun88 What made Hitler evil and 'wrong' was the fact that his beliefs required the sacrifice of another person's beliefs. No one has the right to take away another persons life or rights in order to make their own come true. Hitler did have beliefs, yes, but the moment he cruelly forced them upon others and killed in order to attain them, he became evil.
And yes, you're right now that you mention it~ : ) Thanks for your opinion ^^
I can't understand why people can dislike this kind of music. I can listen to this for hours, but when trying to let other people listen to it, they're like WTF?
Heard this song on AnimeNfo Radio haha, and this is one of the most amazing songs I've heard in a while... gotta love the radio for using such good songs.
Yep translation aside the only real beef with this game is that the booses die too fast to enjoy these songs properly while fighting them, especially if the kill switch that is Replakia shows up. An example in this one I had to hear the whole thing sepeartely from the game to hear the guitar bit in it. The synthesises and antics therein personally are one of the game's better sellers that go unmentioned, absolutely hilarious stuff there ^^
I just fought my way to a camp/save circle, then healed after every battle until I emptied the gauge. The only way they could make it more difficult for me is to remove free healing in dungeons. Or, you know, avoid bugs that make the game freeze after turn three. Although, Replekia made a lot of battles go very quickly.
Oh my. I hadn't actually known the lyrics until now. As the first Hymn sung by the legend herself, I've been in love for quite some time. It's quite the conversation between girls.
I'm glad I'm not alone. I have a seriously soft spot for this particular series, at first because of Lyner's kick assery, but after the real introduction of Mir, I found my lady4life, or so I believe. All that awaits is to see if the new legends in part III live up to the rep.
I LOVE MIR TOO XDD Ah, she's so misunderstood and so awesome. This song, to me, shows her raw emotions. She's connecting with the Infel Phira on such a deep level~ She's singing out her true, untamed emotions T__T So beautiful~ You think of Mir as such a hateful and evil person, but when you hear this song, you feel all the pain she had to bear.
Yes. Clearly, to halt the Holocaust, EXEC_RE=NATION/. and EXEC_SPHILIA/. could be sung to Hitler and open his mind to human- I mean, the Jews. If only real life were so easy.
You think of Hitler as such a hateful and evil person, but when you read Mein Kampf, you feel all the pain he had to bear. He writes his true, untamed emotions.
@amitabho123 Hitler is an evil and hateful person. Although he, like all humans, definetly had pain to bear, did his pain need to amount to the millions of lives sacrificed? Although everyone is entitled to their opinions, thoughts and beliefs, no one should be harmed or have to suffer as a sacrifice for their own, or for someone else's, personal visions. Mir/Jacqli caused heartache and chaos for everyone, but the fact that she's been through a lot and connects with the Heart of Gaea means--
@amitabho123 --means absolutely nothing. No one can atone for the sin of taking away anothers life, no matter what they went through or how hard their life is. Mir/Jacqli will have to live through the emotional pain of both her own past and the guilt of the anarchy she caused. Hitler might have had a difficult and painful past, but the suffering of one life, compared to the gruesome murder of millions, in my opinion, is an unjust and selfish exchange no matter what said person went through.
@SeanAbesto There is no such thing as atonement. It is a simple matter of wishing that you never did what you did and wanting to be forgiven. I don't know if Hitler ever regretted what he did but Mir and other characters like her have. I wish humans in real life could be more like that as well as being more forgiving. In reality, we aren't very forgiving at all. It's sad really.
@ZafonSkyknight "There is no such thing as atonement" Beautiful words~
We're not very forgiving, you're right... What's ironic is that we're capable of writing stories and designing games based around the concepts we lack, without ever learning a lesson from them ourselves. We ARE sad...
@haxerx123 Thank you, thank you -bows, bows- : D Don't you agree though? I mean, we've been writing and thinking and feeling for so long that this world needs to CHANGE for the better, but after thousands and thousands of years of wishing, not a single time have we felt an inch of transformation. We pride ourselves on being concious and willing and sentient, when we can't even feel the need to help ourselves become, quite simply, 'nice'. That's why I immerse myself in fiction~ For the lessons.
@SeanAbesto True. It's sad but the real world isn't receptive to change. Mainly because they feel insecure as they don't know what the change might bring in for them. Though for my case I immerse myself in fiction cause I couldn't be bothered anymore.
@SeanAbesto And that with the writing stories without learning something from them...it is a nice thought, but I think it is more that a single human may be able to comprehend these concepts of better life and higher logic, while humanity as an entirety is not.
That is why, when you are trying to change the world, there is no way to avoid reckless methods.
I am not sure if you understand. Mir killed a ridiculous amount of people. Her pain is nothing to the murder of millions. Just like Hitler, she deserves to burn forever.
@amitabho123 I don't disagree with your point of view, but I don't completely agree either. Hitler suffered, but in that suffering, he brought down millions of people. Mir suffered, and in her suffering, she slew people as well. The difference here is that Mir, unlike Hitler, was awakened to the pain she caused and tried, to the best of her capabilities, to fix her mistakes and make the world better. Atonement is impossible, but trying to be 'good' is better then not trying at all, no?
@SeanAbesto Okay people. Mir is not like Hitler at all she is like Xandra. Both she and Xandra were horribly mistreated and as a result they made the floating islands fall, and they got redeemed. Hitler was just a guy who had serious mental issues.
@SariaSchala I can't agree here either~ Hitler was convinced his way of thinking was right. He didn't have mental issues. I mean, we are living every day with some form of pre-determined thoughts and values, but who's to say they're right? I'm not approving of Hitler's ways, but it's just not in my personality to judge people higher than others. Everyone's equal, and should be conceived as such. Hitler WAS, however, to some extent, very, very, very wrong.
@SeanAbesto Just a philosophical question - my pre-determined values is the idea that everyone is one big family and we are all good people at heart and that hatred is a completely man-made concept. I love everything and everyone. I'm the sort of person who believes if you are nice to someone, they'll be nice back.
@SeanAbesto i have to interject here. hitlers suffering was nearly all self induced. the only "suffering" that wasnt caused by his own deeds was being rejected from an art school. aside from that if i remeber correctly the only other thing that happened to him is that he was imprisoned for trying to overthrow the government. although you have many good points, mir's suffering and his are on tremendously different levels.
@tehloserisyou You're right, but I guess suffering is suffering nonetheless, whether self-inflicted or not. Something made Hitler cause pain to himself, the same way people caused pain to Mir, and that suffering is what brought on the negativity they both unleashed. Anyways, I agree that they're pain is on completely different levels... But this debate has gone on for long enough xD Hitler was evil, Mir sings beautifully~ Done and done xD
@SeanAbesto I have a question here. What if someone was forced to kill another person because they were possessed? This happened to one of my characters. In this case, I think the murder is the fault of the possessor and that's the end of it - what do you think?
@SariaSchala I think you'd be right~ I think the possessor would be to blame, not the possessed... then again, it's kind of a gray area question because what if the person who was possessed WANTED to murder the other person? It all becomes kind of iffy and uncertain when you add in other elements though, but I'm with you on this one : ) The possessor is at fault~
All in all, good game. Im not going to lie, it's actually a bad port/localization, (like, "Wow Gust is getting kinda lazy" bad), but dont let it deter you from atleast TRYING the game.
still, it fits very well with her. the bird theme follows Harmonious very well. and, considering her history, i imagine she would understand someone who was feeling sadness, fear and hatred, and who was being chained in a shell
So amazing. Unlike most theme songs this one actually sounds better now that I've seen the lyrics. Much better infact, I had no idea this beautiful melody was about two people having a conversation.
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I LOVE this song. I decided to try to put Tokyo Mew Mew to this song, and so far I think it's turning out pretty good! :D But I'll just have to wait and see what everybody else on Youtube has to think of it! :D :D But I'm in love with this song, and I hope people are too! :D
Saw now it´s not Akiko who´s singing.. ^^;, but still I like songs of this type,contaning many languages in one(hymnos) and i´m really grateful for the lyrics
Wow...! I can actually picture this Hymme conversation between Luca/Cloche and Jaquli during the battle. It's really good. Thanks for the translation!
Also, I came listening to the guitar solo.
Spidyy 2 days ago
The (first?) boss for this music was so ugly, I though it was such a waste. :( But the fight was epic.
Spidyy 2 days ago
I DISLIKED BECAUSE THE SONG NEEDS TO BE LONGER ! hehe no JK JK , I really love this song. :3))
EmY008800 1 week ago
i just played ar tonelico, and this song is played when the protagonists are retrieving luca's mind
renation89 2 weeks ago
Do any of you guys know why there are so many "bird" words in hymnnos songs?
ludosfaverus 2 weeks ago
@ludosfaverus
Well, it just might be that you happened to be listening to singing of a certain Reyvatail... who is fond of using the word "bird" in her songs. ;)
haiiroyui 2 weeks ago
@haiiroyui oh I thought it was based on a legend like Rhaphlanca or Harvestasya :D
ludosfaverus 2 weeks ago
Three people...
...don't like made up languages? I don't know why else you'd click 'dislike'.
XCAltoona 1 month ago
Love the part at the start of 1:38, so gentle.
ShorelineDefense 1 month ago
dafuq....
why this beautiful song has a discuss about mule being compared with hitler?
GAURON123 2 months ago
.... Okay, I just noticed the weirdest thing.
Listen to that part from 0:20 to 0:23.... and compare it with Survival Examination from Naruto OST II.
Do I hear a trifle of similarity or what? : O
Holcifio 2 months ago
@Holcifio it's actually from the score of hymnos language..
that language contain a music melody too..
:)
TheHiiragizawa 2 months ago
@Holcifio
Not just a trifle. It seems to be exactly that... I would hazard to guess they sampled that bit from Survival Examination.
Chimerathon 3 weeks ago
Mir proves to everyone that Flatter is Hotter
Ginobi666 4 months ago
Well, first off Luca is supposed to be Gaea, not Cloche. As far as the manga is concerned anyway. But I'm pretty sure they both understand normal hymmnos. From what I understand you undertsand basic hymmnos when you awaken as a revatail.
MagiNosferatu 6 months ago
@MagiNosferatu The manga came after the games, so it really has no relevance in terms of plot here.
tehloserisyou 2 months ago
Anyone else wonder how Cloche could be affected by this song? Jacqli is singing this song in the general Hymmnos Dialect...Yet Cloche can't understand normal Hymmnos, and only In/Outputs in New Pastalia Dialect.
Darknightleo18 6 months ago
@Darknightleo18 IPDs can understand the normal Hymmnos dialect without a problem, Infel Phira acts as an emulator and instantly translates any Hymmnos dialect into New Pastalia for IPDs, making it understandable. It's weird, but that's why they can use any word from any dialect in their hymns, but the ones added to the Third Tower after the Grathnode Inferia.
BetaTypeJakuri 4 months ago
@BetaTypeJakuri Ah, alright. Thanks for clearing that up for me. Don't know where I heard the whole can't-understand-regular-hymmnos thing from, then. :x
Darknightleo18 4 months ago
@Darknightleo18 maybe it comes from the fact that normal Reyvateils, like Luca, can't understand New Pastalia? It would've made just as much sense for IPDs to be in the same situation with normal Hymmnos if not for the instant-translator thingy.
BetaTypeJakuri 4 months ago
Das Lied ist voll schön *__*
Love it
ahztr 7 months ago
wat does hitler have to do with this song. yea nothing
shionxallen 8 months ago 2
Was yea ra mea kiafa sarla
Ginobi666 8 months ago
@Ginobi666 Was yea erra mea kiafa sarla (:
VictoryZetaMKII 8 months ago
I cry cause I imagine too much when I watching the lyrics
poiyin 8 months ago
you know godwin's law actually exists when you see it apply to something as obscure as ar tonelico -.-
tehloserisyou 8 months ago
Jesus, guys, get over it. You're comparing a real life historical figure to a fictional magical singer born and raised in a fictional magical world. Do you realize how much that makes almost no rational sense at all? Besides, Mir went through actual traumatizing shit, Hitler on the other hand was just an angry emo because he got rejected by an art school and suddenly blamed all of his misfortune on the Versailles Treaty. That's that so you should leave it at that.
END OF DISCUSSION.
ojamajokaori 8 months ago 2
@ojamajokaori Calm down, Jesus : / We're just having a normal debate, no one's over reacting except you < _ <
SeanAbesto 8 months ago
this song is really good I've got all the songs from the series ar tonelico 2
saxurarose 8 months ago
"Click on song" Well this is a nice song
"Looks at comments, sees discussion about Hitler" what the hell guys
squirlkingSUCKS 8 months ago
I went on an Ar Tonelico Hymnos marathon the other day thus listening to ALL of the hymns... among all the Hymnos that i listen to, this is the best
Ginobi666 8 months ago
what language is this?
bobjimjones 9 months ago
@bobjimjones its hymnos
omeganocturne 9 months ago
i listened to this song about 12 times non stop before making this comment
Ginobi666 9 months ago
LOL Neph9, LOL. That comment is just hilarious, I thought exactly the same! xD
Mir is nothing like Hitler, because she is - as much as I got to know her in At2 - a good person deep inside. Now stop comparing my beloved Mir to that unrelated dude!
StarShapedM00N 9 months ago
the songs and the games are too awesome to stop especially all the songs i can never get them out of my head.
5XxwolfxX 9 months ago
3 people are viruses :P
gilesahrun 10 months ago
Is the singer actually singing in Japanese and the Hymmlish is just Japanese dialogue respelled and spaced out differently?
HackedStats 10 months ago
@HackedStats Nope, it's a completely different language.
Check out conlang.wikia.com/wiki/Hymmnos
Neph9 10 months ago 4
>click on a link
>oh great, I love this song
>scroll down, discussion about Hitler
what the fuck guys.
Neph9 11 months ago 110
@Neph9 LMAO WHAT +1
HOW DO YOU EVEN
HackedStats 10 months ago
@Neph9 Welcome to the internet.
Masamichi45 1 month ago
@Neph9 Keepin' it classy.
XCAltoona 1 month ago
LIKE
LIKE
LIKE
OHHHHHHHHHHHHH
SOOOOOOOO GOOOOOOOODDD!!!!!!!!!!!
THIS SONG IS STAGGERINGLY BREATHTAKING AND I CANNOT STOP LISTENING TO IT.
Sturminator10 1 year ago
To you guys talking about hitler and mir... how does doing what you believe to be right make you an evil person? Who have the right to judge that? Hitler did what he believed to be right, he wasnt evil, just a fked up person whom most of us hate ^^'
Mir was controlled by her emotions, her hatred took over and pretty much created its own personality. It was first after that her true self had been able to surface abit that she realised her error.
chrnokun88 1 year ago
in other words, mir and hitler are completely different, u cant compare them. everything about them are different.
chrnokun88 1 year ago
@chrnokun88 You do make a good point.
ZafonSkyknight 1 year ago
@chrnokun88 What made Hitler evil and 'wrong' was the fact that his beliefs required the sacrifice of another person's beliefs. No one has the right to take away another persons life or rights in order to make their own come true. Hitler did have beliefs, yes, but the moment he cruelly forced them upon others and killed in order to attain them, he became evil.
And yes, you're right now that you mention it~ : ) Thanks for your opinion ^^
SeanAbesto 1 year ago
I can't understand why people can dislike this kind of music. I can listen to this for hours, but when trying to let other people listen to it, they're like WTF?
I love this language <3
TheSephirias 1 year ago
Heard this song on AnimeNfo Radio haha, and this is one of the most amazing songs I've heard in a while... gotta love the radio for using such good songs.
legalt122 1 year ago
plz plz plz can someone tell me where this song is from!!!!!!???
Msflawlesscrystal 1 year ago
@Msflawlesscrystal Ar Tonelico of course!^^
Sang by Mir, aka Jaqli. 1 of the character of this game.
KuribohTwin 1 year ago
@Msflawlesscrystal You do know that there is a title for this song right above the video right....?
chrnokun88 1 year ago
I like exec_sphilia more after knowing the meanings of the lyric.
sepherdoh 1 year ago
Ar Tenelico always has such hardcore songs :)
jupiterisdagirl 1 year ago
@jupiterisdagirl It's what you call Rock-Opera
Vza004 1 year ago
@Vza004
Interesting. I love collaborated genres :)
jupiterisdagirl 1 year ago
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Vza004 1 year ago
wow..very nice
but, it's more like a conversation isn't it?
CandyLupher 1 year ago 2
Holy crap this song is a fucking hardcore.
hakimfullmetal19 1 year ago 9
Did somebody know how to translate hymmnos the easy way?
hakimfullmetal19 1 year ago
@hakimfullmetal19
No. You have to learn the words and use your artistic interpretation of it.
amitabho123 1 year ago
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hakimfullmetal19 1 year ago 3
Holy shit this song is fucking hardcore.
Garnonymous 2 years ago 16
That song is fuckin' hardcore.
KevinTheDuke22 2 years ago 7
And any further comments are redundant.
KarvArth 2 years ago 3
Indeed, comrade. Indeed.
KevinTheDuke22 2 years ago 4
Yep translation aside the only real beef with this game is that the booses die too fast to enjoy these songs properly while fighting them, especially if the kill switch that is Replakia shows up. An example in this one I had to hear the whole thing sepeartely from the game to hear the guitar bit in it. The synthesises and antics therein personally are one of the game's better sellers that go unmentioned, absolutely hilarious stuff there ^^
Crestlinger 2 years ago 5
I think there was a mention somewhere that the difficulty in AT3 will be higher than its predecessors.
fukae 2 years ago
I just fought my way to a camp/save circle, then healed after every battle until I emptied the gauge. The only way they could make it more difficult for me is to remove free healing in dungeons. Or, you know, avoid bugs that make the game freeze after turn three. Although, Replekia made a lot of battles go very quickly.
balasdair 2 years ago
Ar Tonelico has some of the most ,if not the most awesome boss music in all rpg, and I'm serious.
fukae 2 years ago 6
Oh my. I hadn't actually known the lyrics until now. As the first Hymn sung by the legend herself, I've been in love for quite some time. It's quite the conversation between girls.
Kenjisan 2 years ago 5
Agreed, once she sang, the other two Reyvateils became Moot! I love MIr.
oblivionkey99 2 years ago
I'm glad I'm not alone. I have a seriously soft spot for this particular series, at first because of Lyner's kick assery, but after the real introduction of Mir, I found my lady4life, or so I believe. All that awaits is to see if the new legends in part III live up to the rep.
Kenjisan 2 years ago
I LOVE MIR TOO XDD Ah, she's so misunderstood and so awesome. This song, to me, shows her raw emotions. She's connecting with the Infel Phira on such a deep level~ She's singing out her true, untamed emotions T__T So beautiful~ You think of Mir as such a hateful and evil person, but when you hear this song, you feel all the pain she had to bear.
SeanAbesto 2 years ago 6
@SeanAbesto
Actually, this isn't for establishing any connections to other servers, but only for the Reyvateils to communicate directly through their emotions.
suiryuukishi 1 year ago
@SeanAbesto I stopped thinking of Mir as an evil and hateful person toward the end of the first game....
VictoryZetaMKII 1 year ago
@SeanAbesto
Yes. Clearly, to halt the Holocaust, EXEC_RE=NATION/. and EXEC_SPHILIA/. could be sung to Hitler and open his mind to human- I mean, the Jews. If only real life were so easy.
You think of Hitler as such a hateful and evil person, but when you read Mein Kampf, you feel all the pain he had to bear. He writes his true, untamed emotions.
How wretched.
amitabho123 1 year ago
@amitabho123 Hitler is an evil and hateful person. Although he, like all humans, definetly had pain to bear, did his pain need to amount to the millions of lives sacrificed? Although everyone is entitled to their opinions, thoughts and beliefs, no one should be harmed or have to suffer as a sacrifice for their own, or for someone else's, personal visions. Mir/Jacqli caused heartache and chaos for everyone, but the fact that she's been through a lot and connects with the Heart of Gaea means--
SeanAbesto 1 year ago
@amitabho123 --means absolutely nothing. No one can atone for the sin of taking away anothers life, no matter what they went through or how hard their life is. Mir/Jacqli will have to live through the emotional pain of both her own past and the guilt of the anarchy she caused. Hitler might have had a difficult and painful past, but the suffering of one life, compared to the gruesome murder of millions, in my opinion, is an unjust and selfish exchange no matter what said person went through.
SeanAbesto 1 year ago
@SeanAbesto There is no such thing as atonement. It is a simple matter of wishing that you never did what you did and wanting to be forgiven. I don't know if Hitler ever regretted what he did but Mir and other characters like her have. I wish humans in real life could be more like that as well as being more forgiving. In reality, we aren't very forgiving at all. It's sad really.
ZafonSkyknight 1 year ago
@ZafonSkyknight "There is no such thing as atonement" Beautiful words~
We're not very forgiving, you're right... What's ironic is that we're capable of writing stories and designing games based around the concepts we lack, without ever learning a lesson from them ourselves. We ARE sad...
SeanAbesto 1 year ago
@SeanAbesto You, sir. Fucking win. No sarcasm
haxerx123 11 months ago
@haxerx123 Thank you, thank you -bows, bows- : D Don't you agree though? I mean, we've been writing and thinking and feeling for so long that this world needs to CHANGE for the better, but after thousands and thousands of years of wishing, not a single time have we felt an inch of transformation. We pride ourselves on being concious and willing and sentient, when we can't even feel the need to help ourselves become, quite simply, 'nice'. That's why I immerse myself in fiction~ For the lessons.
SeanAbesto 11 months ago
@SeanAbesto True. It's sad but the real world isn't receptive to change. Mainly because they feel insecure as they don't know what the change might bring in for them. Though for my case I immerse myself in fiction cause I couldn't be bothered anymore.
haxerx123 11 months ago
@SeanAbesto And that with the writing stories without learning something from them...it is a nice thought, but I think it is more that a single human may be able to comprehend these concepts of better life and higher logic, while humanity as an entirety is not.
That is why, when you are trying to change the world, there is no way to avoid reckless methods.
StarShapedM00N 9 months ago
@SeanAbesto
I am not sure if you understand. Mir killed a ridiculous amount of people. Her pain is nothing to the murder of millions. Just like Hitler, she deserves to burn forever.
amitabho123 11 months ago
@amitabho123 I don't disagree with your point of view, but I don't completely agree either. Hitler suffered, but in that suffering, he brought down millions of people. Mir suffered, and in her suffering, she slew people as well. The difference here is that Mir, unlike Hitler, was awakened to the pain she caused and tried, to the best of her capabilities, to fix her mistakes and make the world better. Atonement is impossible, but trying to be 'good' is better then not trying at all, no?
SeanAbesto 11 months ago
@SeanAbesto Okay people. Mir is not like Hitler at all she is like Xandra. Both she and Xandra were horribly mistreated and as a result they made the floating islands fall, and they got redeemed. Hitler was just a guy who had serious mental issues.
SariaSchala 9 months ago
@SariaSchala I can't agree here either~ Hitler was convinced his way of thinking was right. He didn't have mental issues. I mean, we are living every day with some form of pre-determined thoughts and values, but who's to say they're right? I'm not approving of Hitler's ways, but it's just not in my personality to judge people higher than others. Everyone's equal, and should be conceived as such. Hitler WAS, however, to some extent, very, very, very wrong.
SeanAbesto 9 months ago
@SeanAbesto Just a philosophical question - my pre-determined values is the idea that everyone is one big family and we are all good people at heart and that hatred is a completely man-made concept. I love everything and everyone. I'm the sort of person who believes if you are nice to someone, they'll be nice back.
How could that be wrong?
SariaSchala 8 months ago
@SariaSchala Because I've been nice to people and they were assholes back to me.
VictoryZetaMKII 8 months ago
@SariaSchala Because sometimes people... just break. And they go on to break other people.
It is human nature to reflect the way we are treated, and surpassing this nature is very difficult. Many choose not to.
And this is a very sad thing.
FaelineFayrin 4 months ago
@SeanAbesto i have to interject here. hitlers suffering was nearly all self induced. the only "suffering" that wasnt caused by his own deeds was being rejected from an art school. aside from that if i remeber correctly the only other thing that happened to him is that he was imprisoned for trying to overthrow the government. although you have many good points, mir's suffering and his are on tremendously different levels.
tehloserisyou 8 months ago
@tehloserisyou You're right, but I guess suffering is suffering nonetheless, whether self-inflicted or not. Something made Hitler cause pain to himself, the same way people caused pain to Mir, and that suffering is what brought on the negativity they both unleashed. Anyways, I agree that they're pain is on completely different levels... But this debate has gone on for long enough xD Hitler was evil, Mir sings beautifully~ Done and done xD
SeanAbesto 8 months ago
@SeanAbesto I have a question here. What if someone was forced to kill another person because they were possessed? This happened to one of my characters. In this case, I think the murder is the fault of the possessor and that's the end of it - what do you think?
SariaSchala 8 months ago
@SariaSchala I think you'd be right~ I think the possessor would be to blame, not the possessed... then again, it's kind of a gray area question because what if the person who was possessed WANTED to murder the other person? It all becomes kind of iffy and uncertain when you add in other elements though, but I'm with you on this one : ) The possessor is at fault~
SeanAbesto 8 months ago
One of my favorite hymmnos, the lyrics just touch you on a personal level. ^_^
sylwyn 2 years ago
just splendid ...
can anyone recommend me other Akiko's songs beside the ones used in AT 1&2 &OVA ?
vinh060612 2 years ago
RAKA and Harmonia albums are just filled with her awesomeness. I'd recommend those two.
LavenderYuki 2 years ago
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thanks, ill try them :D
vinh060612 2 years ago
a rather unique conversation between Jacqli and Luca's/Cloche's Heart of Gaea...
This is quite possibly my favorite Hymmnos song.
Indignation211 2 years ago 5
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RikusGrl14 2 years ago
This is one powerfull song, in any way.
In special when the e-guetar comes in.
It's like an...hm...how should I say...emotional climax?
Hentaifreak1 2 years ago 5
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lilrebbitzen 2 years ago
There isnt an anime for AT2 yet. Wouldnt be surprsied if they made an OVA for it like they did for AT.
Dogysamich 2 years ago
Ah, thanks for clearing that up. I just found the game stuff, so I'm going to see if I can buy a copy.
lilrebbitzen 2 years ago
All in all, good game. Im not going to lie, it's actually a bad port/localization, (like, "Wow Gust is getting kinda lazy" bad), but dont let it deter you from atleast TRYING the game.
I will say that it's either love-it-or-hate-it.
Dogysamich 2 years ago
Well, the original was NISA, and that company rocks! First heard of them when I bought a $5 new copy of Disgaea 2 (!!). I love that game!
So, even though it's another company, I hope I like this one too.
lilrebbitzen 2 years ago
It's simply amazing and describes Cloche/Luca's feelings very well but I doubt Jacqli was feeling the same as them x)
The best part is that it was free of charge Hooray!! ~
(Sorry for the english ^^')
catijusto69 2 years ago
still, it fits very well with her. the bird theme follows Harmonious very well. and, considering her history, i imagine she would understand someone who was feeling sadness, fear and hatred, and who was being chained in a shell
balasdair 2 years ago
So amazing. Unlike most theme songs this one actually sounds better now that I've seen the lyrics. Much better infact, I had no idea this beautiful melody was about two people having a conversation.
Uzukii 2 years ago 7
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I LOVE this song. I decided to try to put Tokyo Mew Mew to this song, and so far I think it's turning out pretty good! :D But I'll just have to wait and see what everybody else on Youtube has to think of it! :D :D But I'm in love with this song, and I hope people are too! :D
ckhs16 2 years ago
I love how the songs retain their poetic value even when translated from hymnos.
mostbrutalprincess 2 years ago 17
Thank you for putting the lyrics on!, I always love Shikata Akiko songs, especially this one, and now knowing the meaning makes me love it even more
SacredWingMaster 2 years ago 6
Saw now it´s not Akiko who´s singing.. ^^;, but still I like songs of this type,contaning many languages in one(hymnos) and i´m really grateful for the lyrics
SacredWingMaster 2 years ago 5
This one is actually by Noriko Mitose. Though Akiko Shikata is good too.
Indignation211 2 years ago 3
Yeah, been seeing Noriko´s songs on youtube and she´s pretty good
SacredWingMaster 2 years ago 3
Wow...! I can actually picture this Hymme conversation between Luca/Cloche and Jaquli during the battle. It's really good. Thanks for the translation!
missdeona 2 years ago 35
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ktkarona 2 years ago
Jacqli's song's always good.. ever since the first AT..
sweetthingslover 2 years ago 38
@sweetthingslover Mir*
VictoryZetaMKII 1 year ago
Wow thank you very much! Is this the song that plays when you try to take the heart of gaia the first time?
PopPrincesses 2 years ago
yep, it is
What Jacqli sang that time XDD
EshtarWind 2 years ago
OMG so thats why you had to fight that cage monster, Damn, thats a great song, another reason why I love Ar Tonelico
RPGirl777 2 years ago
Thank you so much for putting this up in English.
tamahagane 2 years ago 3
wow, it must've been hard making this version of the song
i'm really grateful though
damedatta 2 years ago 4