April Interview: GALLOP: "Again, it wasn't anything expected. I was just going to turn on the computer to do a letter. And I never got to do that. As soon as I touched the computer, boom, and I actually thought it was a bomb. And to leave out graphic details, you know, all of a sudden, due to the impact of the plane"....impact of the PLANE she said!
maybe she said PLANE now, only because it has been ingrained into her, and the rest of us--
but, when it happened, she said she thought it was a bomb, and she didnt remember smelling ANY jet fuel, even though she walked through the very alledged impact! she also said, she was TOLD at the hospital it was a PLANE.
The point is she didn't OBSERVE the impact- she merely deduced what happened after hearing the official reports. The pentacon really shows how the official Pentagon story is completely untrue.
The point is she didn't OBSERVE the impact- she merely deduced what happened after hearing the official reports. The pentacon really shows how the official Pentagon story is completely untrue.
She didn't observer it. 136 other people DID observe exactly what happened at the pentagon on 9/11 2001. 136 people witnessed it: guess how many saw a civilian plane? Seriously, guess.
Yup, all 136. One hundred and thirty six out of one hundred and thirty six.
Guess how many saw a missle/military plane? Seriously, guess.
Uhhh... I'd sure like to see your source on that one. First off - there were many eyewitnesses so said what what they saw hit the Pentagon didn't look anything like a commercial jet.
Second, if look at the black box flight recorder data from 77 you'll find that the plane DID aproach the building. Unfortunately at the time it was supposedly knocking over light poles, it was over 400 feet off the ground! The plane flew OVER - not into.
No, there were absolutely no EYE witnesses that saw something other than a Commercial jet hit the Pentagon. There ARE a lot of 9/11 conspiracy theorists that would lead you to believe that many people saw something else, but there was NO ONE that witnessed the Plane crash, who identified it as a military plane, a missile, video fakery (or whatever stupid 9/11 conspiracy theory you can think off.
Yeah, I caught that one with Mike Walters, and I wish CTer's would stop referring to it because he wasn't even within view of the fucking thing. However, it's one thing to take your claim from print, and quite another to take it from filmed interviews:
watch?v=YtzTjzt5AIU
watch?v=Qouaq9GFtOk&feature=related
To say that ANYONE could identify the make, model and carrier of an aircraft flying at 500 mph is sheer idiocy, can't you see that?
No it's not. When the plane is that low to the ground, and actually basically flies right by you (as is the case for many witnesses) you'll notice a few things. The Red/White/Blue layout for one, which IDs the carrier as AA. Most of the people who ID'd it as the exact make were pilots, of which there were several who were eye witnesses at the Pentagon (like the control tower officer on the helipad).
watch?v=juZdE9r6dW4
- Supersonic flyby of a F/A 18 Hornet, very clearly visible to the naked eye
...Very visible because it's several hundred feet above the camera which is zoomed in on it.
I witness planes flying at these speeds directly over my house every year when the Blue Angels are in town to show us how big their cocks are... and you can't make out shit about these craft when they fly within 100 feet over your head.
I've seen the Blue Angels and many flight shows, and I'll let you in on a secret: They, just like every other plane are not allowed to fly at supersonic speeds over the continental US. It's a law, look it up. The sonicbooms created by Supersonic flight shatter windows, which means the Blue Angels aren't flying supersonic anywhere near you, or you'd know it.
watch?v=-esQFe-6wJw
- How about this one? These are no higher off the ground than the Boeing would have been. Clearly visible, again.
First of all, reading the tail number is a really bad strawman. No one visually ID'd what flight it was that hit the pentagon, only that it was an commercial jet, and some people said it was AA.
As for your PS, exactly, you could plainly see it was a military jet. You didn't see a missile, you didn't see a Commercial jet. You saw a military jet. 136 people saw a commercial jet at the Pentagon while 0 saw a missile or military jet. You can be sure the Boeing wasn't going any faster...
So, let me ask you a question - when you go see a magic show, do you believe that they really saw the lady in half, or that they can make an elephant or even a jumbo jet appear out of thin air?
Did people see a passenger jet that day? Flight 77's Flight Data Recorder proves that they did - regardless of whether they could ID it or not. Did they see it strike the Pentagon? Again, the FDR proves without question that they most certainly did not.
...What are you talking about? Once again, the magician reference is a strawman, as you are very good at inadequately stating my point and acting like it was some big trick.
The Flight Data Recorder confirms that people saw a low flying, Boeing passenger airliner near the Pentagon, but doesn't show that it crashed there? I'd like to see some sources for that. Also, what are you saying, 136 people saw it there, and then it just disappeared a millisecond before it hit the Pentagon? Where'd it go?
(cont)... since the Boeing 757 has a max speed of 568mph and Mach 1 is over 700mph.
Those F/A-18's from the videos go up to 1190mph, and you can be pretty sure that those fighter pilots like to put the pedal to the metal when they do a flyby, especially since most military fighter pilots these days only get about 5 hours of flight time per week.
Your PPS, that actually goes to further my point. Since the Boeing was not supersonic, it would be much easier to identify with the naked eye.
Please tell me more about this. Send me a PM or something :)
WearechangeN 2 years ago
what is the speed of sound at sea level? I know it's not 700 mph.
brokencasket 2 years ago
@brokencasket 760 mph, anything above that, is constant.
sr71ablackbird 1 year ago
Good discussion.
Here is an offer: you NAME ONE WITNESS who saw an AA commercial jetliner and I will try to challenge that person.
I have researched so many witnesses that have been reported, I have yet to find ONE credible.
We can have our contest right here on this site. I dare you-- GIVE ME A NAME!
This should be good! the date today is dec. 30th, 2008.
denbenenki 3 years ago
Here is a new clip. NO DEBRIS at the pentagon see for yourself.
watch?v=_0eC3uns3pA
dollarbear1 3 years ago
April Interview: GALLOP: "Again, it wasn't anything expected. I was just going to turn on the computer to do a letter. And I never got to do that. As soon as I touched the computer, boom, and I actually thought it was a bomb. And to leave out graphic details, you know, all of a sudden, due to the impact of the plane"....impact of the PLANE she said!
tkledin 4 years ago
maybe she said PLANE now, only because it has been ingrained into her, and the rest of us--
but, when it happened, she said she thought it was a bomb, and she didnt remember smelling ANY jet fuel, even though she walked through the very alledged impact! she also said, she was TOLD at the hospital it was a PLANE.
denbenenki 4 years ago
The point is she didn't OBSERVE the impact- she merely deduced what happened after hearing the official reports. The pentacon really shows how the official Pentagon story is completely untrue.
janusaur 4 years ago
The point is she didn't OBSERVE the impact- she merely deduced what happened after hearing the official reports. The pentacon really shows how the official Pentagon story is completely untrue.
janusaur 4 years ago
She didn't observer it. 136 other people DID observe exactly what happened at the pentagon on 9/11 2001. 136 people witnessed it: guess how many saw a civilian plane? Seriously, guess.
Yup, all 136. One hundred and thirty six out of one hundred and thirty six.
Guess how many saw a missle/military plane? Seriously, guess.
0. Z-e-r-o.
You lose. End of story.
SSky06 3 years ago
Uhhh... I'd sure like to see your source on that one. First off - there were many eyewitnesses so said what what they saw hit the Pentagon didn't look anything like a commercial jet.
Second, if look at the black box flight recorder data from 77 you'll find that the plane DID aproach the building. Unfortunately at the time it was supposedly knocking over light poles, it was over 400 feet off the ground! The plane flew OVER - not into.
djjimi 3 years ago
No, there were absolutely no EYE witnesses that saw something other than a Commercial jet hit the Pentagon. There ARE a lot of 9/11 conspiracy theorists that would lead you to believe that many people saw something else, but there was NO ONE that witnessed the Plane crash, who identified it as a military plane, a missile, video fakery (or whatever stupid 9/11 conspiracy theory you can think off.
You want a source?
watch?v=t1wQ2BJsgx0
Ok?
SSky06 3 years ago
Yeah, I caught that one with Mike Walters, and I wish CTer's would stop referring to it because he wasn't even within view of the fucking thing. However, it's one thing to take your claim from print, and quite another to take it from filmed interviews:
watch?v=YtzTjzt5AIU
watch?v=Qouaq9GFtOk&feature=related
To say that ANYONE could identify the make, model and carrier of an aircraft flying at 500 mph is sheer idiocy, can't you see that?
dragidol 3 years ago
No it's not. When the plane is that low to the ground, and actually basically flies right by you (as is the case for many witnesses) you'll notice a few things. The Red/White/Blue layout for one, which IDs the carrier as AA. Most of the people who ID'd it as the exact make were pilots, of which there were several who were eye witnesses at the Pentagon (like the control tower officer on the helipad).
watch?v=juZdE9r6dW4
- Supersonic flyby of a F/A 18 Hornet, very clearly visible to the naked eye
SSky06 3 years ago
...Very visible because it's several hundred feet above the camera which is zoomed in on it.
I witness planes flying at these speeds directly over my house every year when the Blue Angels are in town to show us how big their cocks are... and you can't make out shit about these craft when they fly within 100 feet over your head.
djjimi 3 years ago
I've seen the Blue Angels and many flight shows, and I'll let you in on a secret: They, just like every other plane are not allowed to fly at supersonic speeds over the continental US. It's a law, look it up. The sonicbooms created by Supersonic flight shatter windows, which means the Blue Angels aren't flying supersonic anywhere near you, or you'd know it.
watch?v=-esQFe-6wJw
- How about this one? These are no higher off the ground than the Boeing would have been. Clearly visible, again.
SSky06 3 years ago
Excellent job! I could clearly read the tail number on that one (it was U2HVBNOND)!
PS - we have no clue how fast those guys were moving. Could I tell they were military jets? Sure. Beyond that, nothing.
PSS - You're right, the Angels don't fly at supersonic speeds - which only goes to further prove my point.
djjimi 3 years ago
First of all, reading the tail number is a really bad strawman. No one visually ID'd what flight it was that hit the pentagon, only that it was an commercial jet, and some people said it was AA.
As for your PS, exactly, you could plainly see it was a military jet. You didn't see a missile, you didn't see a Commercial jet. You saw a military jet. 136 people saw a commercial jet at the Pentagon while 0 saw a missile or military jet. You can be sure the Boeing wasn't going any faster...
SSky06 3 years ago
So, let me ask you a question - when you go see a magic show, do you believe that they really saw the lady in half, or that they can make an elephant or even a jumbo jet appear out of thin air?
Did people see a passenger jet that day? Flight 77's Flight Data Recorder proves that they did - regardless of whether they could ID it or not. Did they see it strike the Pentagon? Again, the FDR proves without question that they most certainly did not.
djjimi 3 years ago
...What are you talking about? Once again, the magician reference is a strawman, as you are very good at inadequately stating my point and acting like it was some big trick.
The Flight Data Recorder confirms that people saw a low flying, Boeing passenger airliner near the Pentagon, but doesn't show that it crashed there? I'd like to see some sources for that. Also, what are you saying, 136 people saw it there, and then it just disappeared a millisecond before it hit the Pentagon? Where'd it go?
SSky06 3 years ago
(cont)... since the Boeing 757 has a max speed of 568mph and Mach 1 is over 700mph.
Those F/A-18's from the videos go up to 1190mph, and you can be pretty sure that those fighter pilots like to put the pedal to the metal when they do a flyby, especially since most military fighter pilots these days only get about 5 hours of flight time per week.
Your PPS, that actually goes to further my point. Since the Boeing was not supersonic, it would be much easier to identify with the naked eye.
SSky06 3 years ago
Excellent April Gallop!
mikegarlicbread 4 years ago