@matforsbon Airbus sold A320peons which is a very cheap plane + add up Boeing 777 sales, Boeng 747-8I sales, Boeing 787 sales + 1000 737-MAX sales + U will learn Boeing made double the money than Airbbus. IFLC cancelled 10 A380s plus A350 had 40 cancellations +no sales. Boeing is ramping up 787 production with the new S.Carolina Plant + Boeing is buiding new 737-MAX plant. Boeing has money coming in while A380 is 18 billion Euros in debt + A380 will be cancelled PERIOD.
@matforsbon Baldrick (LottoLoser) loves making stories up to hide the fact that Airbus continue to sell more aircraft every year than Boing does. He's going through the Kleenex and then some, trying to get over the fact that Airbus's net sales of 1419 compared to Boing's 805 signifies the biggest gap ever in sales. He was a moron coming out with dumbass comments in 2011 and nothing has changed in 2012. He's still a liar and waster, drawing welfare benefits, the gutter class of the US.
BOEING 737-MAX GIVES AIRBUS A KICK IN ITS TINY BALLS
@BOACMach2 Norwegian Air Shuttle has announced an order for 100 Boeing 737 MAX airliners, along with 22 Boeing 737-800. This is the first European order for the 737 MAX and the entire order is valued at $11.4 billion. tHE 737-MAX will put the A320peon Airbus down in four more months. Boeing outsell Airbus in Dollars Versus Cheap Peons. BOACMach2 its who makes the most money that wins and Airbus A380 is 18 Billion Euros in debt!
Why did you not mention that they also ordered 100 NEOs? 122 737 vs. 100 A320 is hardly a "kick in Airbus' balls" considering that Norwegian was 100% Boeing before that deal.
@blablubb12345 I would to know why that you refuse to admit that A380 is a White Elephant that is sucking what little profits Airbus. Fact the A320 is a minimal plane with a small profit. Every A320peon sale is used to pay off debt of the A380. The longer Airbus keeps A380 the more likely Airbus will hit the skids of bankruptscy. U can only build 2 per-month + have to have build 500 to break even. With the exploding engines and the 3 meter long micro-cracks in the wing the A380 is a disaster!
@LottoWinner999 "3 metre long micro-cracks"...What a dumb remark, considering the brackets in question are just 9" long. You came out with moronic crap in 2011 and nothing has changed in 2012. That's another classic remark to go alongside the "Hell will freeze over before AA buys Airbus" and "Russian airlines will never buy the A380" You're nothing more than an ignorant member of America's gutter class. Off you go Fool!...lol
@BOACMach2 The Emirates, Quatar + others purchased all those Triple 777 cuz their betting the A350 won't get off the ground cuz the engine for it is underpowered. U can only stretch a cheap Trent Exploding Engine so far. Boeing exclusive on the GE C-90 and the GE NexGen has put the squeeze on Airbus + all the minimal profits on the A320 are applied to A380 Rat Hole of Debt with exploding engines + Micro-Cracked Wings. How much worse can it get? Answer when an A380 wing breaks off in flight!!
@BOACMach2 Qantas will resume flying its Airbus 380 fleet after engine inspections concluded the airplane was safe to fly. Qantas A380 to return will be VH-OQF, followed by VH-OQE Rolls-Royce concluded the incident was caused by an oil fire but said the issue was confined to a specific component and it has since been scrambling to find a fix and replace faulty engines with new turbines.
Rolls-Royce will replace 40 engines globally, or about half the engines currently in service on the A380.
@LottoWinner999 You should have saved your breath Baldrick. Your comments are like swiss cheese...full of holes! There are so many factual flaws in your dross below I really can't be bothered to go through them one by one. Suffice to say that coming from the mouth of a serial liar, they carry no weight whatsoever. I have said on numerous occasions already, you were a moron, coming out with dumbass comments in 2011 and nothing has changed in 2012. Off you go now Fool!
@BOACMach2 Lion Air ordered 230 Boeing 737s planes — worth a combined $22.4 billion. Lion Air also has the rights to buy 150 more. The order includes 201 of Boeing’s redesigned 737, which it calls the Max, and 29 extended range 737-900s. Lion Air plans to pay for the planes over 12 years with bank financing. Airbus is going down for the count as the Boeing 737-MAX kicks Airbus Freakazoids like U in your little balls and now Boeing is number one
HEY STUPID YOUR ''PRECIOUS A380" IS THE JONAH AIRBUS OF STUPIDITY
@BOACMach2 Airbus A380 Still A Drag For EADS. Each and every A380 sold represents an increase in program losses and another unit will cost more to make than what it’s sold for, there clearly isn’t a line around the block queuing up for it and Airbus can sleep a little easier at night knowing that it is not selling very well and never likely to either.
YOUR A380 IS ECONOMIC FLOP AND IT WILL CRASH ONE WAY OR THE OTHER!!!!
BOEING GUTS A320peon WITH LION-AIR ORDER OF 230 BOEING 737-MAXS
@BOACMach2 Hey Faggy in your closet totally terrorized how the 737-MAX is outselling Airbus. Boeing has locked in its biggest order ever 230 737 orders from Lion Air for $22.4.billion. Lion Air also has the rights to buy 150 more. This proves Airbus is hitting the skids and just wait till Airbus cancel the A380 White Elephant! Airbus is in deep shit and its A350 & A380 has more cancellations.
@blablubb12345 Boeing broke all records set by either manufacturer. Because Boeing is selling far more widebodies (more expensive and much more profitable) then Boeing's revenue sales and profitability are orders of magnitude ahead of Airbus's. Most of Airbus's sales were the A320 series which are low revenue and low profit.
How much does Boeing earn on your beloved 737MAX? Or on those early 787 which they sold for ~100mil to Avianca (not to mention ANA as launch customer)? The truth is: You don't know shit.
@blablubb12345 When it comes to the bottom line making a profit and having your bills paid means Boeing is successful wile the A380 is 18 Billion Euros in Debt = Bankrauptcy!
@blablubb12345 Between 2004 and 2006, Boeing were selling airframes for the 787-8 for $85m and for as little as $65m in order to secure orders. Jim Alburgh is on record as saying Boeing made a serious error with this strategy and will therefore lose out financially as a result. I know you'll read this Baldrick so answer this question...you talk of low profit margins and the cost of the A380 program. How has the 787 ended up costing Boeing $32B in development and manufacturing? A real albatross!
@BOACMach2 Boeing is in great shape + Airbus is trying figure how to cancel the A380 White Elephant that put Airbus 18 Billion Euros in Debt. I was reading Airbus said it had discovered more cracks in the wings of two new A380s but the airline refuses to accept the planes. Airbus blames Brits for cracked wings + buying Cheap Aluminum Alloy for 4,000 brackets with cheaps bolts. Airlines who bought A380s are demanding all wings be rebuilt or replaced. A380-WE-SDL (White-Elephant-Super-Delay-Liner)
Which planes were rejected and which Airline refuses to accept them? Just 2 simple questions that you should be able to answer when making such claims. And again, why should Airbus cancel a plane with 180 frames in their backlog? Cancelling the A380 won't bring back the money spend on development.
@blablubb12345 Everyone knows Baldrick is a serial liar and waster. He was a moron coming out with crap in 2011 and nothing has changed in 2012. He wont answer those questions because he knows he cant. LottoLoser is the You Tube court jester and Fool; always has been, always will be.
@BOACMach2 your nothing but a Crossdressing Airbus Freakazoid who jerks off 24/7 while wearing your Moms dresses + Lingerie which sexually incites, excites + stimulates U to a fever pitch + U have a pitiful orgasm were your little dick hiccups all over the place. U are a disgusting perverted professional masterbater of the worst nature cuz yo Momma spit U out at birth + U richocheted off the wall + landed on your head. U should be ashamed of yourself cuz your so ugly U scare people to death!
@BOACMach2 In addition, Airbus composite stabilizers, rudders and couplers have also been involved in a number of other emergency in-flight incidents that did not lead to crashes, injuries or deaths.
There is now a question whether all Airbus aircraft equipped with composite stabilizers and rudders should be grounded until the cause of the crash of Flight 447 can be identified and it can be determined if the aircraft can be inspected, safely repaired, and returned to service.
@BOACMach2 Although the Flight 903 pilot made nine rudder reversals during a high rate of speed, which subjected the plane to substantial aerodynamic forces, neither the engines nor tail fin fell off. A subsequent inspection revealed that survival of the craft may have been an engineering miracle. Between March 4 -11, 2002, the tail was physically removed from the plane and “two marks were found to be visible on the right rear attachment lug, one of six that attaches the fin to the fuselage
@BOACMach2 Early in the investigation, then NTSB Chairperson Marion Blakey said, “We do not know [if those rudder movements] were caused by the pilots.” In its submission to the NTSB, the Allied Pilots Association pointed out ten previous incidents in which A300 tail fins had been stressed beyond their design limits stated: .“The pilots operating the accident airplane were highly-skilled, fully-qualified, proficient aviators who were never informed of the unusual limitations of their airplane.
@blablubb12345@blablubb12345 dont pay any attention to @BOACMach2 this airbus slut has been on every boeing video trying to convince people airbus is better, and I mean every Boeing page ,BOACMach2 if you love airbus so much why are you on sooo many boeing video, you just cant get enough looking at what a real airplane should look like ah. BOEING=history,culture, pioneer, tradition, future,elegance,beauty, and helped win ww1 and wwII, and is still defending the west NATO nations. AIRBUS=SHIT.
@LottoWinner999 LOL!..In great shape? Why is it that the 747-8 wont sell? Why is it that the GEnx-2B engines guzzle fuel, forcing Boeing to make heavy compensation payments? Why is the 787 a complete disaster in production, costing Boeing $32B in development & manufacturing & already prone to delamination in the wing roots. Why is it that the GEnx-1B engines on the aircraft use more fuel than the RR ones? Why is the 737CAC is still a "paper" plane. Why have Boeing gone over budget the tanker?
@BOACMach2 BTW Boeings new plant in S. Carolina will have its first 787 ready for delivery in the Spring. Its amazing a fucking moron like U does not realize the 787 is new plane and Boeing make sure its plane are safe to fly versus Airbus A380 cracked wings, exploding RR Trent Engines + shitty land gear.Quatar & Emirates 21 Billion Dollar order for 50 Boeing 777s was because they know the A350 is going to be another Airbus A380 Tits Up Flop. PU Why do U love shit stinking Airbus planes?
"Boeings new plant in S. Carolina will have its first 787 ready for delivery in the Spring".
You sure about that? This is the plant that's the source of the fuselage "de-lamination" issues. Seems they'll be spending their time repairing shoddy workmanship. Guess thats what happens when you hand the work to trainees and apprentices.
"Boeing make sure its planes are safe to fly"
The problems the 787 has encountered both pre and post production have JAL and Qatar wondering!
@BOACMach2 Airbus tokk 10 years to sell 232 A380s with only 63 in service + can only build 2 per-month, what a flop. Since 1/1/2011 Boeing sold 114 747-8Is & 747-8Fs. Boeing delivering 747-8Fs and 1ST 747-8I + its delivering its 1ST 20 Lufthansa orders. The 747-8I orders have killed the A380 so it can't break even. When Lufthansa gets its 1ST 747-8Is there will be allot A380 cancellations. I read your thread with Chessmaster were U got upset with IFLC 10 A380 cancellations. Airbus is going down!
@LottoWinner999 There are 253 A380s on order, 68 of which are in service. At any one time, there are 4 A380s being built. There have been only 36 firm orders for 747-8Is since 2005 (not 1/1/2011), paltry by comparison. Killed the A380?..you're having a laugh! Lufthansa have already said their A380 is more cost effective than the 747-8I and they are operating both. You were a moron, coming out with lies and dumbass comments in 2011 and nothing has changed in 2012. Off you run now Fool..lol!
@LottoWinner999 Why is it that Boeing chose to screw over their loyal workforce in Wichita after promising them the work for the tanker contract and instead conseigning them to the scrapheap with the news that the factory is to close? Boeing cannot be trusted to carry through their promises, as has been proven with the tanker project already over budget and under DOD scrutiny. BTW, the cheap aluminium alloys were produced by an American company. Now go away Fool!
@BOACMach2 .REUTERS NEWS Airbus has a second series of bigger cracks in the central part of the wing were deemed a graver discovery and European air safety regulators demand 20 of the double-decker planes be inspected, six within four days, and the rest within six weeks. Aluminum ingots bought by Airbus + processed into parts for A380 wings is not the fault of ALCOA. It is the fault of the Britaing whose workers lack refined metalurgical skills in casting aluminum alloy parts their A380 wing.
@BOACMach2 True Airbus did get 10 cancellations for the A380 but they got 10 at the start of the year (6 from Asiana, 4 from Skymark) meaning that for 2011.
@BOACMach2 To date, there have been 23 fatal Airbus crashes, killing 2,584 people.
EXCERPT: Used in law, science and philosophy, a rule known as Occam’s Razor requires that the simplest of competing theories be preferred to the more complex, and/or that explanations of unknown phenomena be sought first in terms of known quantities. Part One of this comprehensive report on the viability of the Airbus aircraft can be found here. This follow up piece is published here author William John Cox.
@BOACMach2 While the overall number of accidents and fatalities are not disproportionate to the crash experience of Boeing aircraft, three of the Airbus crashes involved a separation of the composite vertical stabilizer (tail fin) from the fuselage. Five hundred, or one in five of the Airbus deaths, including 228 from Air France Flight 447, resulted from these three crashes.
@BOACMach2 Missed Opportunities to Avoid Air France Flight 447 Disaster
A series of in-flight emergency incidents and fatal crashes extending back 12 years provide a clear record of missed opportunities to correct what increasingly appears to be a basic design error in Airbus commercial aircraft that caused the crash of Air France 447!
@BOACMach2 During ultrasound inspections, technicians [found] spots where the layers of composite material [had] separated, a condition called delamination.” The right rear lug is in the same area where the tail from Flight 587 first broke away. Replacement of the tail by American Airlines cost more than $1 million. Aboard American Airlines Flight 587 Over Queens, New York. With the tail fin and both engines torn from the aircraft, the terror for those aboard, including five infants.
@BOACMach2 The relatively intact 27-foot-tall stabilizer was found floating in the Jamaica Bay. It was originally connected to the fuselage at six attaching points, each of which had two sets of attachment lugs, one made from plastic, the other of aluminum. They were held together by a titanium bolt. An examination revealed the metal components to be intact and the plastic lugs to be broken.
@BOACMach2 U have been spanking your poor little monkey till he's senseless. Give him a break every knows your a Professional Masturbator so U don't need to swagger like a macho piece of shit. Did you get the callous remover for your little monkey and on website photograph is that Callous Skin on your lips from giving to many blow jobs? Every one has submitted your name to "Ripleys Believe It Or Not" cuz no one has ever seen callous skin on your monkey and callous lips from to many blow-jobs.
@BOACMach2 AIRBUS ORDERS AIRLINES TO GROUND ALL A380'S SITES WING CRACKS ARE UNSAFE!
The A380 is not safe to fly," Tom Williams, executive vice president of programmes at Toulouse-based Airbus, said. The cracks were caused by unskilled mechanics using wrong choice of aluminium alloy for some of the 4,000 brackets in the wings as well as a type of bolt that put too much stress on the metal. Engineers are concerned about actual metal fatigue, Williams said.
@blablubb12345 Yeah, Baldrick's very economic with the truth when he's not playing the moron. The Norwegian deal is a victory for Airbus, no doubting that. Another Boeing only customer bites the dust! What's the betting that they got the 22 NG's for $40million each like SWA. Boeing are fast becoming the airlines' cash point...go in hard and they'll give you money for nothing. The only kicking here is the "own goal" by Boeing.
@BOACMach2 Ellen Connors, the former chairperson of the NTSB has stated that the report was delayed because of “inappropriate and intense lobbying by Airbus over its contents” and that “the potential for contaminating the investigation exists. More than 20 American Airlines pilots asked to be transferred to Boeing aircraft, “although this meant months of retraining and loss of earnings.”
@BOACMach2 One pilot wrote that “he had refused to let any of his family take an A300 or A310 and had paid extra to take a circuitous route on holiday purely to avoid them.” Saying there was no way to adequately inspect the plastic tail fins, dozens of American Airlines pilots demanded that the company ground its fleet of Airbus A300 jets until the cause of the crash of AA587 could be determined.
@BOACMach2 “Finally,” Dr. Williams concludes, “Airbus’s extensive design and testing programs for the A300-600 composite vertical stabilizer may be currently deficient if they were based on outmoded or flawed engineering assumptions or an inadequate certification process. No amount of analysis can overcome faulty assumptions or insufficient requirements by Airbus.”
@BOACMach2 January 2002 - Federal Express Flight. A pilot flying an Airbus A-300 freighter “complained about strange ‘uncommanded inputs’ – rudder movements which the plane was making without his moving his control pedals. In FedEx’s own test on the rudder on the ground, engineers claimed its ‘actuators’ – the hydraulic system which causes the rudder to move – tore a large hole around its hinge.
@BOACMach2 The mechanics “found that hydraulic fluid had caused some of the composite material in the plane’s rudder to ‘disbond,’ or come apart.” Mechanics “found bent and broken rudder control system components, as well associated disbonding of the composite tailfin.” The mechanics “unearthed a synchronization issue, wherein hydraulic pressure pulses from different sources can get out of phase.” The resulting “oscillation was felt as a sustained vibration, and then a loud bang was heard.”
The B-747's been one of aviation's great success stories. For well over 40 years it's safety and service record has been outstanding,and it's future will be secure as one of the most popular aircraft of it's type. The A-380's main issue is that it was designed for a market that has been shrinking as superjumbo's are losing popularity due to less airline customers and shorter routs being taken by smaller more efficient aircraft like the B-777.
The A350 will not be ready till 2018. Long before 1ST A350 fly's Boeing will have 787-8, 787-900 + 787-1000 on the market with 2 plants building 25 787s per- month. Boeing is 1ST + will corner the market long before the A350 which will be a very cheap copy of the Boeing 787. How come Airbus copies Boeing instead inventing a brand new plane? Before the A350 flys Rolls Royce has to build a new engine thats safe + does not explode + Las Vegas Odds Makers say that will never happen!
@Cloneof501 I am self-employed + have an S-Corp. U talk about airlines + economics. FYI no matter what kind of business U run it must break even to survive. Fact A380 is 16 Billion Euros in debt + must sell 500 to break even. Only 67 A380's are in service after being on the market 10 years. Airbus can only build 2 A380s per-month. Do the math + realize the A380 must be cancelled so Airbus can survive. With todays economics it will be short of time when Airbus admits failure + cancels the A380!
@LottoWinner999 The A350 is actually more expensive. You shouldn't count on Las Vegas :) And, Airbus has generally led the innovation (composite bodies, cleaner engines, first to fully incorporate fly by wire [not that that's saying all that much], etc.) Unfortuately, both the 787 and the A350 are hideous. Too bad the 747s are dying and the A380s aren't that popular. There just isn't enough demand, and the new composite, fuel efficient planes are taking over. Land Rover (747) vs Prius (787)!
@wcabswimmer Boeing leads the way with GE-C90 and GE- NexGen fuel efficient engines with less emissions long before Airbus who uses older USA Built Jet Engines. BTW the A380 is not classified as a new plane cuz its got the same old technology. There are 1400 747s in service today compared to a puny 67 A380s in service. Plus the fuel efficient Boeing 74-8I is more more popular than the Gas Guzzling A380. Boeing planes have better fuel efficiency and are safer. The A50 is delayed until 2018
@wcabswimmer Airbus has not built its 1ST A350-SDL(Super-Delay-Liner). How come Airbus can't build a new innovative airplane. Fact the A350-SDL looks exactly like the B-787 + Airbus copied every detail except the engines. Boeings got Airbus by the balls with GE Exclusivity Contracts which stops Airbus buying GE engines that Boeing paid to develop. Airbus begged GE for the GE-C90 & GE NexGen engins + GE said, "NO." Now Airbus has to pay GE 2 Billion Euros to start a new engine from scratch. Tsk!
@Cloneof501 I wish U would try to understand basic math, recently ILFC cancelled 10 A380-800 + 12 A350-900. The 10 A380 cancellations has hurt Airbus + now Emirates is ready to cancel or delay their 90 orders. Economists say one or the other will be an economic catastrophe for Airbus + the A380 will be scrubbed. BTW it is known that Airbus is so desperate that they have given Emirates 5 free A380s not to cancel the deal. FYI every A380 cancellation is sale for Boeing 747-8I, B-787 or B-777-ER.
@jonahair747 Hey I support U 110% and Airbus Freakazoids have no idea how Boeing has backed Airbus into a corner with now way out. The A380 was built out of revenge + hatred of America and Americans. Btits, French, Germans + Spaniards do nothing but gloat how great their two-story A380 is when its an outdated poorly designed + built piece of Eurocrap! You could not pay me to fly on that Death-Trap with its Rolls-Royce exploding engines/ BTW take a look at my posts!
I'm definitely not an aerospace engineer, or even close, but hopefully all of you Airbus freaks out there understand that Boeing is taking huge leaps in technology to create better planes. I just hope that they eventually use ALL composite materials for the 747 as they did for the 787. Just think of how much lighter the aircraft would be and how much of a bigger load the plane could carry. Someone, please tell me if this is an impossibility for the 747 to be made of all carbon fiber. Thanks.
Both companies asr taking huge leaps, not just Boeing. Airbus had the lead in using composite materials for decades until the 787 came along. Just as an example, the A380 uses 25% composite materials compared to about 50% on the 787 and A350 or 9% on the 777. And no, you can't build a plane using 100% carbon fiber, it's just not the "wonder material" for everything.
@blablubb12345 Did U see that IFLC cancelled 10 A380-800s and 12 A350-900. Plus ILFC ordered 130 Boeing 737-MAX. Airbus is flying low + now Quatar is going to cancel or restructure its orders for the A380-800. Every A380 cancellation is a sale for Boeing + IFLC cancelled 12 A350-900s + this is more business for Boeing. I am tired of telling U the gas guzzling Toulouse Goose will be cancelled. It will not break even + will never make a profit + Airbus has to admit the A380 is a financial flop!
@blablubb12345 Your full of Bullshit and lies and you did not wake up until Boeing sold 800 plus 787s. A380 does not use 25% composite parts + most of its seat stuffing and material..
Prove that the A380 is not build using 25% of composites or shut up. So, whats the story with the 50% european engines on the 737? Must be a real death trap if Europeans can't make engines which don't explode, don't you think?
@blablubb12345 Lets see you prove the A380 is not using 25% composites or shut up. So, whats the story with the 50% european engines on the 737? Must be a real death trap if Europeans can't make engines which don't explode, don't you think? Thats the truth you talk about how great Airbus is but most of their planes use American Jet Engines. If Airbus and Europe is so great how come they buy American Built Jet Engines? Answer European jet engines are dangerous and cheaply built!
@blablubb12345 The A380 has made an impact on the composites industry. Each Airbus A380 will carry 30 metric tonnes/66,000 lb of structural composites, about 16 percent of the total airframe weight of 170 metric tonnes.
Golloum, U can find that information on Compositesworld(dot)com however I wish you would tell the truth and quit embellishing lies about your "Your Precious A380"! It makes you look like a TOTAL ASSHOLE! TTFN
Or maybe compositeworld just got that wrong as they did with the airframe weight (170 tons instead of ~270 tons)? Any other source claims "over 20%" or "up to 25%".
@blablubb12345 Everyone get your waders cause blablubbs shit getting deep & the Airbus A380 is doomed to be cancelled and the idiot refuses to believe but dats why he's a True-Blue Airbus Freakazoid! His big problem is that he believes that POS like the A380 is the Airbus Epitome of high technology. A380 is a Gas Guzzling POS and most of its flights are only half full or half empty? Airbus cant make a successful Pitot-Tube + Air France FL 447 an Airbus A330 crashes because of Airbus stupidity!!
@blablubb12345 Your full of Bullshit and lies and you did not wake up until Boeing sold 800 plus 787s. A380 does not use 25% composite parts + most of its seat stuffing and material..
@blablubb12345 Your full of Bullshit and lies and you did not wake up until Boeing sold 800 plus 787s. A380 does not use 25% composite parts + most of its seat stuffing and material..
@blablubb12345 Bullshit and lies Airbus did not wake up until Boeing sold 800 plus 787s. A380 does not use 25% composite parts + most of its seat stuffing + material. Airbus is trapped in Boeings wake and the A350-SDL(Super-Delay-Liner) is delayed again for 2018. BTW what U know about airplanes would not fill Tinkerbelles Thimble. Your such a lame fucking joke almost as funny as the A350-SDL that will never fly! Airbus=A380-SDL, A350-SDL + A320peonSDL are all Super Delay Liners!
Ok, so youtube comments finally work. I'll explain, though I doubt anyone will listen as this has reduced to the childish Boeing vs Airbus or America vs Europe debate.
The A380 has a lower cost per pax than the 77w. This is because it's a newer design. The 777 will undoubtedly be revised in the future for better efficiency. The 747-8 however, is only useful for cargo. It will not be able to match the A380 with operating costs. I love the 747, but its run is over. I'm a Boeing fan too.
@Cloneof501 The A380 has more technological innovations, heaver payload, far more passengers, and bigger range. However, the A380 simply looks ugly. I guess it's because the design is a full too full deck. It look big and clumsy. The other thing is that airport has to make adjustment for the A380.
@petion2010 Oh, I agree that it's absolutely hideous. The 747 actually looks beautiful and will always be queen of the skies to me. However, performance wise, the A380 is better.
@Cloneof501 The A380 with RR Trent Exploding engines suck allot of gas compared to the fuel efficient 747-8I that has GE Nex-Gen engines that have 20% better milage than the A380 White Elephant!
It's apparent a lot of you need to actually research before you post here. Almost all the posts here are ignorant and don't understand the economics of flying these planes.
lol the 747-800 failed, it sale rates are very far below the a380. people dont want the 747 anymore, it is 40year old airplane, they should make a new plane. new and fresh, a380 ftw!!
@rubikfan1 The A380 is a piece of shit with 2 wings. Its a 10 year old large copy of the Boeing 707 & 747. Airbus A380 is marginal airplane compromised by shitty unsafe RR Trent Engines that have a tendency to explode. All Boeing Aircraft are better built have military frames with advanced military technology + specifications. American GE engines are the best and Airbus does not access to them because of Boeing Exclusivity Contracts + with cheap RR Trent engines Airbus planes are compromised.
I think that the airlines have said that the A380 is better then the 747-8. Granted, sales of the A380 have not been a run a way success. However, there have only been 106 sales (36 not including the freighter version) for the 747-8 compared to 243 for the A380. Furthermore, 2 out of 3 of the customers for the 747-8i are also customers for the A380. For whatever reasons, it would appear that the A380 is the superior aircraft, no matter what Boeing tries to tell us.
A380 is a new kid on the block, so no doubt its center of attention these days!
747 on the other hand looks like a rather mature guy; but its been tested/proven through the last 4 decades, flown by every major airlines throughout the world; it has kept the best safety record in air travel history; been through mid-air bomb explosion, and even flew up side down!
@DJ727ROBLOX Dumbass comment. Try to do some research before claiming such bs. The A380 is probably the quietest airliner out there. Also, I wonder why so many major carriers are happy with it, if it is too heavy.
@freddy813 You don't waste anytime bugging people do you Fagboy? A380 has been for sale now over 10 yrs and they have only sold 244, They need to sel over 550 just to break even. Your an idiot who is in love with an airplane but you know absolutely nothing about aircraft. When we want to know how to make a pastry we will call you o k asshole
Boeing has always been smart enough to release a product when it's ready, tested and everything is ready for it. Their European colleagues haven’t shown the same quality so far, they are just trying to get money and get them ASAP by any means. What’s awesome about Airbus is their marketing and PR strategies. But that’s all they have, when Boeing creates a READY quality for a real safe flying.
@freddy813 Volkswagons outsell Ferrari's , Bently's amd Rolls Royce. Cheaper does not mean better. and there are 737's out there still flying with double the hrs on them of any Airbus.
@freddy813 hey dude, it's not nice sitting there next to your pc to insult other people. but it's great that you have your own point of view. i appreciate it and glad that you are happy with the Airbus. as we know, they sell much more crap goods over the teleshop than in stores, it's the matter of advertisement. and that's ONLY MY point of view. but thanx for your reply, sir!
@kostyaeagle You could start by shutting your own mouth. You're so full of BS just like a few other Americans here who have a hard time accepting that Airbus outsold Boeing 3:1 this year. I know it's tough to accept that there are superior products outside the US, but you gotta get used to it. This is only the beginning. I really like the US, but their position as the worlds number 1 is gone in a few ways. Your cars are so crappy that it'd be unfair to compare them to the European counterparts.
@freddy813 hehe :) once again, i'm glad that you have your own point of view, it's good, stick to it. but i got to tell you something, i'm Russian myself and i'm living and flying in Kazakhstan. and sure thing it's Boeing. sorry, dude, i'm not American at all and the first plane i learned to fly was A320 type. :)
@kostyaeagle Well, I'm an Airbus driver and I prefer it to the Boeing. It is more oriented towards a higher level of comfort for the pilots and minimizes the workload so there are more ressources for more important things during emergencies. And yes of course you are entitled to your opinion as well, but it doesn't change the fact that the A320 series is the fastest selling commercial airliner ever and the NEO has completely outsold the 737MAX until now
@freddy813 well, ferddy, i'm glad you enjoy Airbus and i really wish you pleasant flights! it's like somebody likes fords and someone else likes toyotas, i guess :) all i can really hope for is that we all stay up there as much as we should in those birds and that we all land in an appropriate place. let them fight not only for money, but for safety. i stick to that one :)
wish you to NOT have any emergencies and that neither of us ever experience what it is to be in a real one. all the best!
@freddy813 Hey I remember you from Fox News and they call you "Freddy The Freeloader" cuz your always sneaking into 1ST Class and stealing condiments and meals from 1ST class passengers while their snoozing, LOL your a joke!
@LottoWinner999 Well, funny you should mention it. I saw you in Americas funnies videos. You're that fat dude who sucks another fags dick while sleeping. Haha funny you should show up here.
as time is showing, the A380 is plain, just too BIG! For commercial (people) travel, they can't fill the aircraft. For cargo, I think the Airbus is going to be awesome. But when a plane is flying with 3/5th full, it's not logistical and makes for an expensive flight for those wishing to board that flight. All in all, the workhorse has been the 747, and I think it's as big as airlines want. As we are seeing, bigger isn't better! The two big winners here, 747-8 and 787!
There are plenty of routes where a A380 can be flown at max. capacity. Emirates with 90 A380 on order or Lufthansa with 17 already showed interest for a even bigger A380-900. The 747-8 a winner? With only 36 orders for the passenger version it really doesn't look so. It's a good plane, but it's stuck in a very small niche between the 777-300er and the A380. The 787 is in a totally different segment, replacing the 767 and opening new long haul routes with less passenger density.
@kaidosbuddy You are partialy correct but don't forget even if they have empty seats they might cover that with cargo, and cargo does generate income
A380 is a new kid on the block, so no doubt its center of attention these days!
747 on the other hand looks like a rather mature guy; but its been tested/proven through the last 4 decades, flown by every major airlines throughout the world; it has kept the best safety record in air travel history; been through mid-air bomb explosion, and even flew up side down!
FORGET 747& A380......., R.E.V.O.L.U.T.I.O.N is all in 787!
Folks this is the most fuel efficient, most environmentally friendly, most lightest & yet strongest composite material composed of, most quietest, best cabin air pressure/ air purification system, and most comfortable ride for passengers in any plane ever built so far; I'm so very proud of you, Dreamliner!!
I never heard such a bullshit like this. The A 380 is an all new aircraft costing over 15 billion € just to develop this plane. Now the new 747-8 is a remake of the 747-400 as an answer from Boeing to the A 380. Always typical American style to olay the drums and cry out loud for nothing. As far as i know the 747-8 passenger version has only 2 ( !!!!!! ) customers , LH and Korean. No 747 or 777 or 787 will ever beat the A 380. Face the truth guys.............
The 747-8i got a few orders lately, 2 from Arik Air and 4 from Transaero (who also ordered 4 A380). It's not a bad plane but, as someone else said, it's biggest enemy isn't the A380 but the 777-300ER.
@blablubb12345 6 more orders ? Wow !! See , i am working in aviation business and i have a real close relation to Toulouse and Hamburg ( Airbus ) . If the 777 is a competitor for the A 380 i can only shake my head and wonder about that ignorance. Dream on. That`s so ridiculous that i refuse further corespondance. European technology based on German know how is a class of it`s own. Everybody knows that. Worldwide.
Calm down buddy, you just misunderstood my comment. I wrote that the biggest rival to the 748 is the 77W, not the A380 because they are very close in capacity. The A380 is pretty much in a class of it's own regarding capacity and cost per seat. Btw. i'm german and for sure not a Boeing fanboy. Although i think that the 77W is the best thing Boeing did for years.
@blablubb12345 OK , ok. Sorry. Wollte echt nicht glauben , daß irgendeiner so borniert sein kann und dieses Meisterstück der Ingeniuersleistung A 380 mit der aufgemotzten 747-8 auf eine Plattform zu stellen. Die 747-8 ist ein verzeifelter Versuch die Felle am wegschwimmen zu hindern. Keine 777,787 oder 747-8 wird den Siegeszug der A 380 verhindern können. Das ist ein komplett anderes Flugzeug , wenn Du mal die Strecke von Sydney nach Dubai geflogen bist , wirst wissen was ich meine.Cheers
@Kassowar65 What are you talking about? 747-8 has a totally new redesigned tail section completely different new wings that flex ,the wings are positioned and perform like no other commercial plane(except the 787).The GE engines are way ahead of anybody and save record amounts of fuel and are the quietest engines around which translates into big and crucial $ or Euro savings for the airlines etc,etc. If it wasn't for the 747 there wouldn't be a 380.Hey that A350 is delayed? Not so easy to build
@Moonlite312 That`s wonderful. Aplaus. New wing section or not. Doesn`t make a difference. You guys in Seattle can not live with the fact that European technology is a bit more advanced than the American. Airbus is like a fat sting in the ass of Boeing. Besides : without the escaped German engeeniers during world war 2 the company Boeing wouldn`t exist like that today. Your products are wonderful but Airbus is at least on the same level. The A 380 is above all. Hard to accept...............
Boeing is the undisputed king, you cannot compare the 2, Airbus planes are cheaply built throwaways, There is no Airbus that will ever match the Boeings for airframe life. Airbuses are cheap and less complex and less safe but they flood the market with cheap throwaways kinda like your Bic lighter
@prohelipilot1 Idiot. Try to look up Fly by wire. Airbus was/is way ahead of Boeing regarding that. Also, try to look up Load alleviation function and flight envelope on the airbus. Meanwhile, the 737 is still using heavy cables and wires making it less economicalm partly due to extra weight and partly due to extra maintenance.
@freddy813 IDIOT I did look up fly by wire, first all fly by wire aircraft - General Dynamics F-16 figter jet, oh and you tought airbus invented it. American space shuttle was also all flyby wire. was yours, oh shit I forgot you assholes don't have a space vehicle. Airbus meanwhile is alright but you freddy813 are an idiot.
@prohelipilot1 It sounds like Freddy the Eurotard does not realize the A380-WE(White Elephant) is going to be cancelled cuz its 20 Bil. Euros in debt + Airbus has only deliverd 59 A380-WE in 9 nine years. The say A380-WE will not make a profit + its just a matter of time before its cancelled. Guess what the A350-SDL(Super Delay Liner) still has no engine? FAA said new RR Trent Engine will be extensivley tested because RR Trent Jet Engines are predisposed to explode. A350-SDLis a hunk of junk!!
@Pvjinflight is another stupid Finlander who fucks his reindeer morning, noon and at night does fuck every thing including his pathetic life as an Airbus Freakazoid!
@Pvjinflight Hey "Your Precious A380" is a ten year old out dated flying hunk of junk that has put Airbus in 20 Billions Euros of Debt. Its RR Exploding Trent Engines make it a real liability!
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LottoWinner999 1 week ago
I want that model in my living-room!
AVIATIO 3 weeks ago
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I still feel safer on good old 747 with 50 yrs of best safety record in
aviation history. While new, exciting and fad A380 start appearing
cracks on wings in multiple A380 in such short a period of times since coming into service.
JaneSanFrancisco 4 weeks ago
boeing is a lot better then airbus
Theultracash 1 month ago
@Theultracash Not to sales anyway, Airbus delivered more planes and took in more orders so far this year than U.S. rival Boeing Co
matforsbon 1 month ago
BOEING IS NUBER ONE!
@matforsbon Airbus sold A320peons which is a very cheap plane + add up Boeing 777 sales, Boeng 747-8I sales, Boeing 787 sales + 1000 737-MAX sales + U will learn Boeing made double the money than Airbbus. IFLC cancelled 10 A380s plus A350 had 40 cancellations +no sales. Boeing is ramping up 787 production with the new S.Carolina Plant + Boeing is buiding new 737-MAX plant. Boeing has money coming in while A380 is 18 billion Euros in debt + A380 will be cancelled PERIOD.
LottoWinner999 1 month ago
@matforsbon Baldrick (LottoLoser) loves making stories up to hide the fact that Airbus continue to sell more aircraft every year than Boing does. He's going through the Kleenex and then some, trying to get over the fact that Airbus's net sales of 1419 compared to Boing's 805 signifies the biggest gap ever in sales. He was a moron coming out with dumbass comments in 2011 and nothing has changed in 2012. He's still a liar and waster, drawing welfare benefits, the gutter class of the US.
BOACMach2 1 month ago
BOEING 737-MAX GIVES AIRBUS A KICK IN ITS TINY BALLS
@BOACMach2 Norwegian Air Shuttle has announced an order for 100 Boeing 737 MAX airliners, along with 22 Boeing 737-800. This is the first European order for the 737 MAX and the entire order is valued at $11.4 billion. tHE 737-MAX will put the A320peon Airbus down in four more months. Boeing outsell Airbus in Dollars Versus Cheap Peons. BOACMach2 its who makes the most money that wins and Airbus A380 is 18 Billion Euros in debt!
LottoWinner999 1 month ago
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Why did you not mention that they also ordered 100 NEOs? 122 737 vs. 100 A320 is hardly a "kick in Airbus' balls" considering that Norwegian was 100% Boeing before that deal.
blablubb12345 4 weeks ago
@blablubb12345 I would to know why that you refuse to admit that A380 is a White Elephant that is sucking what little profits Airbus. Fact the A320 is a minimal plane with a small profit. Every A320peon sale is used to pay off debt of the A380. The longer Airbus keeps A380 the more likely Airbus will hit the skids of bankruptscy. U can only build 2 per-month + have to have build 500 to break even. With the exploding engines and the 3 meter long micro-cracks in the wing the A380 is a disaster!
LottoWinner999 4 weeks ago
@LottoWinner999 "3 metre long micro-cracks"...What a dumb remark, considering the brackets in question are just 9" long. You came out with moronic crap in 2011 and nothing has changed in 2012. That's another classic remark to go alongside the "Hell will freeze over before AA buys Airbus" and "Russian airlines will never buy the A380" You're nothing more than an ignorant member of America's gutter class. Off you go Fool!...lol
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@BOACMach2 The Emirates, Quatar + others purchased all those Triple 777 cuz their betting the A350 won't get off the ground cuz the engine for it is underpowered. U can only stretch a cheap Trent Exploding Engine so far. Boeing exclusive on the GE C-90 and the GE NexGen has put the squeeze on Airbus + all the minimal profits on the A320 are applied to A380 Rat Hole of Debt with exploding engines + Micro-Cracked Wings. How much worse can it get? Answer when an A380 wing breaks off in flight!!
LottoWinner999 4 weeks ago
@BOACMach2 Qantas will resume flying its Airbus 380 fleet after engine inspections concluded the airplane was safe to fly. Qantas A380 to return will be VH-OQF, followed by VH-OQE Rolls-Royce concluded the incident was caused by an oil fire but said the issue was confined to a specific component and it has since been scrambling to find a fix and replace faulty engines with new turbines.
Rolls-Royce will replace 40 engines globally, or about half the engines currently in service on the A380.
LottoWinner999 3 weeks ago
@LottoWinner999 You should have saved your breath Baldrick. Your comments are like swiss cheese...full of holes! There are so many factual flaws in your dross below I really can't be bothered to go through them one by one. Suffice to say that coming from the mouth of a serial liar, they carry no weight whatsoever. I have said on numerous occasions already, you were a moron, coming out with dumbass comments in 2011 and nothing has changed in 2012. Off you go now Fool!
BOACMach2 2 weeks ago
BOEING OUT-SELL AIRBUS WITH LION-AIR 230 737-MAXS
@BOACMach2 Lion Air ordered 230 Boeing 737s planes — worth a combined $22.4 billion. Lion Air also has the rights to buy 150 more. The order includes 201 of Boeing’s redesigned 737, which it calls the Max, and 29 extended range 737-900s. Lion Air plans to pay for the planes over 12 years with bank financing. Airbus is going down for the count as the Boeing 737-MAX kicks Airbus Freakazoids like U in your little balls and now Boeing is number one
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HEY STUPID YOUR ''PRECIOUS A380" IS THE JONAH AIRBUS OF STUPIDITY
@BOACMach2 Airbus A380 Still A Drag For EADS. Each and every A380 sold represents an increase in program losses and another unit will cost more to make than what it’s sold for, there clearly isn’t a line around the block queuing up for it and Airbus can sleep a little easier at night knowing that it is not selling very well and never likely to either.
YOUR A380 IS ECONOMIC FLOP AND IT WILL CRASH ONE WAY OR THE OTHER!!!!
LottoWinner999 2 weeks ago
BOEING 737-MAX NEUTERS A320peon
BOEING GUTS A320peon WITH LION-AIR ORDER OF 230 BOEING 737-MAXS
@BOACMach2 Hey Faggy in your closet totally terrorized how the 737-MAX is outselling Airbus. Boeing has locked in its biggest order ever 230 737 orders from Lion Air for $22.4.billion. Lion Air also has the rights to buy 150 more. This proves Airbus is hitting the skids and just wait till Airbus cancel the A380 White Elephant! Airbus is in deep shit and its A350 & A380 has more cancellations.
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LottoWinner999 3 weeks ago
@blablubb12345 Boeing broke all records set by either manufacturer. Because Boeing is selling far more widebodies (more expensive and much more profitable) then Boeing's revenue sales and profitability are orders of magnitude ahead of Airbus's. Most of Airbus's sales were the A320 series which are low revenue and low profit.
LottoWinner999 4 weeks ago
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How much does Boeing earn on your beloved 737MAX? Or on those early 787 which they sold for ~100mil to Avianca (not to mention ANA as launch customer)? The truth is: You don't know shit.
blablubb12345 4 weeks ago
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@blablubb12345 When it comes to the bottom line making a profit and having your bills paid means Boeing is successful wile the A380 is 18 Billion Euros in Debt = Bankrauptcy!
LottoWinner999 4 weeks ago
@blablubb12345 Between 2004 and 2006, Boeing were selling airframes for the 787-8 for $85m and for as little as $65m in order to secure orders. Jim Alburgh is on record as saying Boeing made a serious error with this strategy and will therefore lose out financially as a result. I know you'll read this Baldrick so answer this question...you talk of low profit margins and the cost of the A380 program. How has the 787 ended up costing Boeing $32B in development and manufacturing? A real albatross!
BOACMach2 4 weeks ago
@BOACMach2 Boeing is in great shape + Airbus is trying figure how to cancel the A380 White Elephant that put Airbus 18 Billion Euros in Debt. I was reading Airbus said it had discovered more cracks in the wings of two new A380s but the airline refuses to accept the planes. Airbus blames Brits for cracked wings + buying Cheap Aluminum Alloy for 4,000 brackets with cheaps bolts. Airlines who bought A380s are demanding all wings be rebuilt or replaced. A380-WE-SDL (White-Elephant-Super-Delay-Liner)
LottoWinner999 3 weeks ago
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Which planes were rejected and which Airline refuses to accept them? Just 2 simple questions that you should be able to answer when making such claims. And again, why should Airbus cancel a plane with 180 frames in their backlog? Cancelling the A380 won't bring back the money spend on development.
blablubb12345 3 weeks ago
@blablubb12345 Thw A380 will never break even its a given that it will be cancelled or force airbus into bankruptscy.
LottoWinner999 3 weeks ago
@blablubb12345 Everyone knows Baldrick is a serial liar and waster. He was a moron coming out with crap in 2011 and nothing has changed in 2012. He wont answer those questions because he knows he cant. LottoLoser is the You Tube court jester and Fool; always has been, always will be.
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@BOACMach2 your nothing but a Crossdressing Airbus Freakazoid who jerks off 24/7 while wearing your Moms dresses + Lingerie which sexually incites, excites + stimulates U to a fever pitch + U have a pitiful orgasm were your little dick hiccups all over the place. U are a disgusting perverted professional masterbater of the worst nature cuz yo Momma spit U out at birth + U richocheted off the wall + landed on your head. U should be ashamed of yourself cuz your so ugly U scare people to death!
LottoWinner999 3 weeks ago
@BOACMach2 In addition, Airbus composite stabilizers, rudders and couplers have also been involved in a number of other emergency in-flight incidents that did not lead to crashes, injuries or deaths.
There is now a question whether all Airbus aircraft equipped with composite stabilizers and rudders should be grounded until the cause of the crash of Flight 447 can be identified and it can be determined if the aircraft can be inspected, safely repaired, and returned to service.
LottoWinner999 3 weeks ago
@BOACMach2 Although the Flight 903 pilot made nine rudder reversals during a high rate of speed, which subjected the plane to substantial aerodynamic forces, neither the engines nor tail fin fell off. A subsequent inspection revealed that survival of the craft may have been an engineering miracle. Between March 4 -11, 2002, the tail was physically removed from the plane and “two marks were found to be visible on the right rear attachment lug, one of six that attaches the fin to the fuselage
LottoWinner999 3 weeks ago
@BOACMach2 Early in the investigation, then NTSB Chairperson Marion Blakey said, “We do not know [if those rudder movements] were caused by the pilots.” In its submission to the NTSB, the Allied Pilots Association pointed out ten previous incidents in which A300 tail fins had been stressed beyond their design limits stated: .“The pilots operating the accident airplane were highly-skilled, fully-qualified, proficient aviators who were never informed of the unusual limitations of their airplane.
LottoWinner999 3 weeks ago
@blablubb12345 @blablubb12345 dont pay any attention to @BOACMach2 this airbus slut has been on every boeing video trying to convince people airbus is better, and I mean every Boeing page ,BOACMach2 if you love airbus so much why are you on sooo many boeing video, you just cant get enough looking at what a real airplane should look like ah. BOEING=history,culture, pioneer, tradition, future,elegance,beauty, and helped win ww1 and wwII, and is still defending the west NATO nations. AIRBUS=SHIT.
LottoWinner999 3 weeks ago
@LottoWinner999 LOL!..In great shape? Why is it that the 747-8 wont sell? Why is it that the GEnx-2B engines guzzle fuel, forcing Boeing to make heavy compensation payments? Why is the 787 a complete disaster in production, costing Boeing $32B in development & manufacturing & already prone to delamination in the wing roots. Why is it that the GEnx-1B engines on the aircraft use more fuel than the RR ones? Why is the 737CAC is still a "paper" plane. Why have Boeing gone over budget the tanker?
BOACMach2 3 weeks ago
@BOACMach2 BTW Boeings new plant in S. Carolina will have its first 787 ready for delivery in the Spring. Its amazing a fucking moron like U does not realize the 787 is new plane and Boeing make sure its plane are safe to fly versus Airbus A380 cracked wings, exploding RR Trent Engines + shitty land gear.Quatar & Emirates 21 Billion Dollar order for 50 Boeing 777s was because they know the A350 is going to be another Airbus A380 Tits Up Flop. PU Why do U love shit stinking Airbus planes?
LottoWinner999 3 weeks ago
@LottoLoser999
"Boeings new plant in S. Carolina will have its first 787 ready for delivery in the Spring".
You sure about that? This is the plant that's the source of the fuselage "de-lamination" issues. Seems they'll be spending their time repairing shoddy workmanship. Guess thats what happens when you hand the work to trainees and apprentices.
"Boeing make sure its planes are safe to fly"
The problems the 787 has encountered both pre and post production have JAL and Qatar wondering!
BOACMach2 2 weeks ago
@BOACMach2 Hey Airbus has lost number one position for 2012.
LottoWinner999 1 week ago
@BOACMach2 Airbus tokk 10 years to sell 232 A380s with only 63 in service + can only build 2 per-month, what a flop. Since 1/1/2011 Boeing sold 114 747-8Is & 747-8Fs. Boeing delivering 747-8Fs and 1ST 747-8I + its delivering its 1ST 20 Lufthansa orders. The 747-8I orders have killed the A380 so it can't break even. When Lufthansa gets its 1ST 747-8Is there will be allot A380 cancellations. I read your thread with Chessmaster were U got upset with IFLC 10 A380 cancellations. Airbus is going down!
LottoWinner999 3 weeks ago
@LottoWinner999 There are 253 A380s on order, 68 of which are in service. At any one time, there are 4 A380s being built. There have been only 36 firm orders for 747-8Is since 2005 (not 1/1/2011), paltry by comparison. Killed the A380?..you're having a laugh! Lufthansa have already said their A380 is more cost effective than the 747-8I and they are operating both. You were a moron, coming out with lies and dumbass comments in 2011 and nothing has changed in 2012. Off you run now Fool..lol!
BOACMach2 2 weeks ago
@LottoWinner999 Why is it that Boeing chose to screw over their loyal workforce in Wichita after promising them the work for the tanker contract and instead conseigning them to the scrapheap with the news that the factory is to close? Boeing cannot be trusted to carry through their promises, as has been proven with the tanker project already over budget and under DOD scrutiny. BTW, the cheap aluminium alloys were produced by an American company. Now go away Fool!
BOACMach2 3 weeks ago
@BOACMach2 .REUTERS NEWS Airbus has a second series of bigger cracks in the central part of the wing were deemed a graver discovery and European air safety regulators demand 20 of the double-decker planes be inspected, six within four days, and the rest within six weeks. Aluminum ingots bought by Airbus + processed into parts for A380 wings is not the fault of ALCOA. It is the fault of the Britaing whose workers lack refined metalurgical skills in casting aluminum alloy parts their A380 wing.
LottoWinner999 3 weeks ago
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@BOACMach2 True Airbus did get 10 cancellations for the A380 but they got 10 at the start of the year (6 from Asiana, 4 from Skymark) meaning that for 2011.
LottoWinner999 3 weeks ago
@BOACMach2 To date, there have been 23 fatal Airbus crashes, killing 2,584 people.
EXCERPT: Used in law, science and philosophy, a rule known as Occam’s Razor requires that the simplest of competing theories be preferred to the more complex, and/or that explanations of unknown phenomena be sought first in terms of known quantities. Part One of this comprehensive report on the viability of the Airbus aircraft can be found here. This follow up piece is published here author William John Cox.
LottoWinner999 3 weeks ago
@BOACMach2 While the overall number of accidents and fatalities are not disproportionate to the crash experience of Boeing aircraft, three of the Airbus crashes involved a separation of the composite vertical stabilizer (tail fin) from the fuselage. Five hundred, or one in five of the Airbus deaths, including 228 from Air France Flight 447, resulted from these three crashes.
LottoWinner999 3 weeks ago
@BOACMach2 Missed Opportunities to Avoid Air France Flight 447 Disaster
A series of in-flight emergency incidents and fatal crashes extending back 12 years provide a clear record of missed opportunities to correct what increasingly appears to be a basic design error in Airbus commercial aircraft that caused the crash of Air France 447!
LottoWinner999 3 weeks ago
@BOACMach2 During ultrasound inspections, technicians [found] spots where the layers of composite material [had] separated, a condition called delamination.” The right rear lug is in the same area where the tail from Flight 587 first broke away. Replacement of the tail by American Airlines cost more than $1 million. Aboard American Airlines Flight 587 Over Queens, New York. With the tail fin and both engines torn from the aircraft, the terror for those aboard, including five infants.
LottoWinner999 3 weeks ago
@BOACMach2 The relatively intact 27-foot-tall stabilizer was found floating in the Jamaica Bay. It was originally connected to the fuselage at six attaching points, each of which had two sets of attachment lugs, one made from plastic, the other of aluminum. They were held together by a titanium bolt. An examination revealed the metal components to be intact and the plastic lugs to be broken.
LottoWinner999 3 weeks ago
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@BOACMach2 U have been spanking your poor little monkey till he's senseless. Give him a break every knows your a Professional Masturbator so U don't need to swagger like a macho piece of shit. Did you get the callous remover for your little monkey and on website photograph is that Callous Skin on your lips from giving to many blow jobs? Every one has submitted your name to "Ripleys Believe It Or Not" cuz no one has ever seen callous skin on your monkey and callous lips from to many blow-jobs.
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@BOACMach2 AIRBUS ORDERS AIRLINES TO GROUND ALL A380'S SITES WING CRACKS ARE UNSAFE!
The A380 is not safe to fly," Tom Williams, executive vice president of programmes at Toulouse-based Airbus, said. The cracks were caused by unskilled mechanics using wrong choice of aluminium alloy for some of the 4,000 brackets in the wings as well as a type of bolt that put too much stress on the metal. Engineers are concerned about actual metal fatigue, Williams said.
LottoWinner999 3 weeks ago
@blablubb12345 Yeah, Baldrick's very economic with the truth when he's not playing the moron. The Norwegian deal is a victory for Airbus, no doubting that. Another Boeing only customer bites the dust! What's the betting that they got the 22 NG's for $40million each like SWA. Boeing are fast becoming the airlines' cash point...go in hard and they'll give you money for nothing. The only kicking here is the "own goal" by Boeing.
BOACMach2 4 weeks ago
@BOACMach2 Ellen Connors, the former chairperson of the NTSB has stated that the report was delayed because of “inappropriate and intense lobbying by Airbus over its contents” and that “the potential for contaminating the investigation exists. More than 20 American Airlines pilots asked to be transferred to Boeing aircraft, “although this meant months of retraining and loss of earnings.”
LottoWinner999 3 weeks ago
@BOACMach2 One pilot wrote that “he had refused to let any of his family take an A300 or A310 and had paid extra to take a circuitous route on holiday purely to avoid them.” Saying there was no way to adequately inspect the plastic tail fins, dozens of American Airlines pilots demanded that the company ground its fleet of Airbus A300 jets until the cause of the crash of AA587 could be determined.
LottoWinner999 3 weeks ago
@BOACMach2 “Finally,” Dr. Williams concludes, “Airbus’s extensive design and testing programs for the A300-600 composite vertical stabilizer may be currently deficient if they were based on outmoded or flawed engineering assumptions or an inadequate certification process. No amount of analysis can overcome faulty assumptions or insufficient requirements by Airbus.”
LottoWinner999 3 weeks ago
@BOACMach2 January 2002 - Federal Express Flight. A pilot flying an Airbus A-300 freighter “complained about strange ‘uncommanded inputs’ – rudder movements which the plane was making without his moving his control pedals. In FedEx’s own test on the rudder on the ground, engineers claimed its ‘actuators’ – the hydraulic system which causes the rudder to move – tore a large hole around its hinge.
LottoWinner999 3 weeks ago
@BOACMach2 The mechanics “found that hydraulic fluid had caused some of the composite material in the plane’s rudder to ‘disbond,’ or come apart.” Mechanics “found bent and broken rudder control system components, as well associated disbonding of the composite tailfin.” The mechanics “unearthed a synchronization issue, wherein hydraulic pressure pulses from different sources can get out of phase.” The resulting “oscillation was felt as a sustained vibration, and then a loud bang was heard.”
LottoWinner999 3 weeks ago
Thanks for posting this its very interesting. 2:56 cracks me up every time!
ThePenguin432 1 month ago
looks like a giant 787 dreamliner
quizmaster9 1 month ago
The B-747's been one of aviation's great success stories. For well over 40 years it's safety and service record has been outstanding,and it's future will be secure as one of the most popular aircraft of it's type. The A-380's main issue is that it was designed for a market that has been shrinking as superjumbo's are losing popularity due to less airline customers and shorter routs being taken by smaller more efficient aircraft like the B-777.
Oldbmwr100rs 1 month ago
boeing 747 is the best
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AIBUS SUCKS!
The A350 will not be ready till 2018. Long before 1ST A350 fly's Boeing will have 787-8, 787-900 + 787-1000 on the market with 2 plants building 25 787s per- month. Boeing is 1ST + will corner the market long before the A350 which will be a very cheap copy of the Boeing 787. How come Airbus copies Boeing instead inventing a brand new plane? Before the A350 flys Rolls Royce has to build a new engine thats safe + does not explode + Las Vegas Odds Makers say that will never happen!
LottoWinner999 1 month ago
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@Cloneof501 I am self-employed + have an S-Corp. U talk about airlines + economics. FYI no matter what kind of business U run it must break even to survive. Fact A380 is 16 Billion Euros in debt + must sell 500 to break even. Only 67 A380's are in service after being on the market 10 years. Airbus can only build 2 A380s per-month. Do the math + realize the A380 must be cancelled so Airbus can survive. With todays economics it will be short of time when Airbus admits failure + cancels the A380!
LottoWinner999 2 months ago
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LottoWinner999 2 months ago
I meant to say the A350-900 variant will not compete with the 747 or A380. The -1000 variant will.
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LottoWinner999 2 months ago
@LottoWinner999 The A350 is actually more expensive. You shouldn't count on Las Vegas :) And, Airbus has generally led the innovation (composite bodies, cleaner engines, first to fully incorporate fly by wire [not that that's saying all that much], etc.) Unfortuately, both the 787 and the A350 are hideous. Too bad the 747s are dying and the A380s aren't that popular. There just isn't enough demand, and the new composite, fuel efficient planes are taking over. Land Rover (747) vs Prius (787)!
wcabswimmer 1 month ago
@wcabswimmer Boeing leads the way with GE-C90 and GE- NexGen fuel efficient engines with less emissions long before Airbus who uses older USA Built Jet Engines. BTW the A380 is not classified as a new plane cuz its got the same old technology. There are 1400 747s in service today compared to a puny 67 A380s in service. Plus the fuel efficient Boeing 74-8I is more more popular than the Gas Guzzling A380. Boeing planes have better fuel efficiency and are safer. The A50 is delayed until 2018
LottoWinner999 1 month ago
@wcabswimmer Airbus has not built its 1ST A350-SDL(Super-Delay-Liner). How come Airbus can't build a new innovative airplane. Fact the A350-SDL looks exactly like the B-787 + Airbus copied every detail except the engines. Boeings got Airbus by the balls with GE Exclusivity Contracts which stops Airbus buying GE engines that Boeing paid to develop. Airbus begged GE for the GE-C90 & GE NexGen engins + GE said, "NO." Now Airbus has to pay GE 2 Billion Euros to start a new engine from scratch. Tsk!
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@Cloneof501 I wish U would try to understand basic math, recently ILFC cancelled 10 A380-800 + 12 A350-900. The 10 A380 cancellations has hurt Airbus + now Emirates is ready to cancel or delay their 90 orders. Economists say one or the other will be an economic catastrophe for Airbus + the A380 will be scrubbed. BTW it is known that Airbus is so desperate that they have given Emirates 5 free A380s not to cancel the deal. FYI every A380 cancellation is sale for Boeing 747-8I, B-787 or B-777-ER.
LottoWinner999 2 months ago
all the dislikes were from the a380
TheCheesyQuickscoper 2 months ago
A380 is a pice of shit. I don't care who disagrees with me, if you reply to this comment I will not reply back because I'm just standing my ground.
jonahair747 2 months ago
@jonahair747 still i dont get why you hate the a380 if you have a model of it
yoDog421 2 months ago
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AIRBUS FACES DOOM AND GLOOB
@jonahair747 Hey I support U 110% and Airbus Freakazoids have no idea how Boeing has backed Airbus into a corner with now way out. The A380 was built out of revenge + hatred of America and Americans. Btits, French, Germans + Spaniards do nothing but gloat how great their two-story A380 is when its an outdated poorly designed + built piece of Eurocrap! You could not pay me to fly on that Death-Trap with its Rolls-Royce exploding engines/ BTW take a look at my posts!
LottoWinner999 2 months ago
@jonahair747 Hey I support 110% and any plane made by Airbus is a piece of shit with wings.
LottoWinner999 1 month ago
@jonahair747
i know you said you dont care
but i would like to know from your perspective why you think the A380 sucks?
737Hany 1 month ago
I'm definitely not an aerospace engineer, or even close, but hopefully all of you Airbus freaks out there understand that Boeing is taking huge leaps in technology to create better planes. I just hope that they eventually use ALL composite materials for the 747 as they did for the 787. Just think of how much lighter the aircraft would be and how much of a bigger load the plane could carry. Someone, please tell me if this is an impossibility for the 747 to be made of all carbon fiber. Thanks.
3snowyman 2 months ago
@3snowyman
Both companies asr taking huge leaps, not just Boeing. Airbus had the lead in using composite materials for decades until the 787 came along. Just as an example, the A380 uses 25% composite materials compared to about 50% on the 787 and A350 or 9% on the 777. And no, you can't build a plane using 100% carbon fiber, it's just not the "wonder material" for everything.
blablubb12345 2 months ago
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@blablubb12345 Did U see that IFLC cancelled 10 A380-800s and 12 A350-900. Plus ILFC ordered 130 Boeing 737-MAX. Airbus is flying low + now Quatar is going to cancel or restructure its orders for the A380-800. Every A380 cancellation is a sale for Boeing + IFLC cancelled 12 A350-900s + this is more business for Boeing. I am tired of telling U the gas guzzling Toulouse Goose will be cancelled. It will not break even + will never make a profit + Airbus has to admit the A380 is a financial flop!
LottoWinner999 2 months ago
@blablubb12345 Your full of Bullshit and lies and you did not wake up until Boeing sold 800 plus 787s. A380 does not use 25% composite parts + most of its seat stuffing and material..
LottoWinner999 1 month ago
@LottoWinner999
Prove that the A380 is not build using 25% of composites or shut up. So, whats the story with the 50% european engines on the 737? Must be a real death trap if Europeans can't make engines which don't explode, don't you think?
blablubb12345 1 month ago
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@blablubb12345 Lets see you prove the A380 is not using 25% composites or shut up. So, whats the story with the 50% european engines on the 737? Must be a real death trap if Europeans can't make engines which don't explode, don't you think? Thats the truth you talk about how great Airbus is but most of their planes use American Jet Engines. If Airbus and Europe is so great how come they buy American Built Jet Engines? Answer European jet engines are dangerous and cheaply built!
LottoWinner999 1 month ago
HE DIMWIT THE AIBUS A380 IS ONLY 16% COMPOSITE
@blablubb12345 The A380 has made an impact on the composites industry. Each Airbus A380 will carry 30 metric tonnes/66,000 lb of structural composites, about 16 percent of the total airframe weight of 170 metric tonnes.
Golloum, U can find that information on Compositesworld(dot)com however I wish you would tell the truth and quit embellishing lies about your "Your Precious A380"! It makes you look like a TOTAL ASSHOLE! TTFN
LottoWinner999 1 month ago
@LottoWinner999
Or maybe compositeworld just got that wrong as they did with the airframe weight (170 tons instead of ~270 tons)? Any other source claims "over 20%" or "up to 25%".
blablubb12345 1 month ago
@blablubb12345 Everyone get your waders cause blablubbs shit getting deep & the Airbus A380 is doomed to be cancelled and the idiot refuses to believe but dats why he's a True-Blue Airbus Freakazoid! His big problem is that he believes that POS like the A380 is the Airbus Epitome of high technology. A380 is a Gas Guzzling POS and most of its flights are only half full or half empty? Airbus cant make a successful Pitot-Tube + Air France FL 447 an Airbus A330 crashes because of Airbus stupidity!!
LottoWinner999 1 month ago
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@blablubb12345 Your full of Bullshit and lies and you did not wake up until Boeing sold 800 plus 787s. A380 does not use 25% composite parts + most of its seat stuffing and material..
LottoWinner999 1 month ago
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@blablubb12345 Your full of Bullshit and lies and you did not wake up until Boeing sold 800 plus 787s. A380 does not use 25% composite parts + most of its seat stuffing and material..
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@blablubb12345 Bullshit and lies Airbus did not wake up until Boeing sold 800 plus 787s. A380 does not use 25% composite parts + most of its seat stuffing + material. Airbus is trapped in Boeings wake and the A350-SDL(Super-Delay-Liner) is delayed again for 2018. BTW what U know about airplanes would not fill Tinkerbelles Thimble. Your such a lame fucking joke almost as funny as the A350-SDL that will never fly! Airbus=A380-SDL, A350-SDL + A320peonSDL are all Super Delay Liners!
LottoWinner999 1 month ago
airbus took a >>--------(knee)-->
7lover1 2 months ago
Hear Hear. The 747-8I rocks!
trent8002003 2 months ago
ahahahahaha americans. gotta love em
Heens101 2 months ago
Ok, so youtube comments finally work. I'll explain, though I doubt anyone will listen as this has reduced to the childish Boeing vs Airbus or America vs Europe debate.
The A380 has a lower cost per pax than the 77w. This is because it's a newer design. The 777 will undoubtedly be revised in the future for better efficiency. The 747-8 however, is only useful for cargo. It will not be able to match the A380 with operating costs. I love the 747, but its run is over. I'm a Boeing fan too.
Cloneof501 2 months ago
@Cloneof501 The A380 has more technological innovations, heaver payload, far more passengers, and bigger range. However, the A380 simply looks ugly. I guess it's because the design is a full too full deck. It look big and clumsy. The other thing is that airport has to make adjustment for the A380.
petion2010 2 months ago
@petion2010 Oh, I agree that it's absolutely hideous. The 747 actually looks beautiful and will always be queen of the skies to me. However, performance wise, the A380 is better.
Cloneof501 2 months ago
@Cloneof501 The A380 is a flaming piece of shit with two wings,
LottoWinner999 2 months ago
@LottoWinner999 No it's not. It has great innovative design. It just look F$cking ugly.
petion2010 2 months ago
@Cloneof501 thank you at least someone agrees with me!
yoDog421 2 months ago
@Cloneof501 The A380 with RR Trent Exploding engines suck allot of gas compared to the fuel efficient 747-8I that has GE Nex-Gen engines that have 20% better milage than the A380 White Elephant!
LottoWinner999 2 months ago
It's apparent a lot of you need to actually research before you post here. Almost all the posts here are ignorant and don't understand the economics of flying these planes.
Cloneof501 2 months ago
lol the 747-800 failed, it sale rates are very far below the a380. people dont want the 747 anymore, it is 40year old airplane, they should make a new plane. new and fresh, a380 ftw!!
rubikfan1 2 months ago
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@rubikfan1 The A380 is a piece of shit with 2 wings. Its a 10 year old large copy of the Boeing 707 & 747. Airbus A380 is marginal airplane compromised by shitty unsafe RR Trent Engines that have a tendency to explode. All Boeing Aircraft are better built have military frames with advanced military technology + specifications. American GE engines are the best and Airbus does not access to them because of Boeing Exclusivity Contracts + with cheap RR Trent engines Airbus planes are compromised.
LottoWinner999 2 months ago
I think that the airlines have said that the A380 is better then the 747-8. Granted, sales of the A380 have not been a run a way success. However, there have only been 106 sales (36 not including the freighter version) for the 747-8 compared to 243 for the A380. Furthermore, 2 out of 3 of the customers for the 747-8i are also customers for the A380. For whatever reasons, it would appear that the A380 is the superior aircraft, no matter what Boeing tries to tell us.
rob3rtall3n 2 months ago
Boeing: we don't care if your get a clot in your leg, as long as we get paid.
SimHarrison 2 months ago
why you idiots always show the interior?!?!?! THATS BULLSHIT YOU DUMBASSES!!!!
It depends on the airline,ok? and the 747-8i will have the same interior as the a380 in the lufthansa fleet!!
don't you get it?
btw. 747 rules^^
justus0106 2 months ago
i like the 747 more. it just looks cooler. but i do still thing the a380 is cool. but 747 wins every time.
ABQjetsNM 2 months ago
@LottoWinner999 Uhoh, TeamAmerica might be buying some A380s sometime in the future.
Time for you to commit suicide? I guess you wouldn't be able to live with the shame ;-)
freddy813 2 months ago
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The difference is TIME!
A380 is a new kid on the block, so no doubt its center of attention these days!
747 on the other hand looks like a rather mature guy; but its been tested/proven through the last 4 decades, flown by every major airlines throughout the world; it has kept the best safety record in air travel history; been through mid-air bomb explosion, and even flew up side down!
sayarim1 3 months ago
The A380 is too heavy and too noisy.
DJ727ROBLOX 3 months ago
@DJ727ROBLOX Dumbass comment. Try to do some research before claiming such bs. The A380 is probably the quietest airliner out there. Also, I wonder why so many major carriers are happy with it, if it is too heavy.
freddy813 3 months ago
@freddy813 IT'S TOO BIG! IT LOOKS LIKE A PIECE OF SHIT!
DJ727ROBLOX 3 months ago
@DJ727ROBLOX I'm glad you're not a CEO then. You'd make important decisions based on irrational thoughts and personal feelings. Grow up.
freddy813 2 months ago
@freddy813 A380 LOOKS LIKE IT CAME FROM A TAMPON FACTORY!
DJ727ROBLOX 2 months ago
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@DJ727ROBLOX That's not a very nice thing to say about your own mom!
freddy813 2 months ago
@freddy813 You don't waste anytime bugging people do you Fagboy? A380 has been for sale now over 10 yrs and they have only sold 244, They need to sel over 550 just to break even. Your an idiot who is in love with an airplane but you know absolutely nothing about aircraft. When we want to know how to make a pastry we will call you o k asshole
prohelipilot1 2 months ago
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@freddy813 Hey Freddy The Eurotard do you wipe your mouth after taking a shit?
LottoWinner999 2 months ago
the A380 is just as safe as any boeing its more efficient and it can hold more people so i dont see how the boeing beats it
AlmightySam93 3 months ago
if it ain't boeing then it ain't goeing
Ibran8787 3 months ago
Boeing has always been smart enough to release a product when it's ready, tested and everything is ready for it. Their European colleagues haven’t shown the same quality so far, they are just trying to get money and get them ASAP by any means. What’s awesome about Airbus is their marketing and PR strategies. But that’s all they have, when Boeing creates a READY quality for a real safe flying.
Stick to Boeing and you’ll be on the safe side.
Not an advertisement, just a reality.
kostyaeagle 3 months ago
@kostyaeagle Stupid armchair pilot. Airbus outsold Boeing almost 3:1 this year. You're just a pathetic fanboy.
freddy813 2 months ago
@freddy813 Volkswagons outsell Ferrari's , Bently's amd Rolls Royce. Cheaper does not mean better. and there are 737's out there still flying with double the hrs on them of any Airbus.
prohelipilot1 2 months ago
@freddy813 hey dude, it's not nice sitting there next to your pc to insult other people. but it's great that you have your own point of view. i appreciate it and glad that you are happy with the Airbus. as we know, they sell much more crap goods over the teleshop than in stores, it's the matter of advertisement. and that's ONLY MY point of view. but thanx for your reply, sir!
kostyaeagle 2 months ago
@kostyaeagle You could start by shutting your own mouth. You're so full of BS just like a few other Americans here who have a hard time accepting that Airbus outsold Boeing 3:1 this year. I know it's tough to accept that there are superior products outside the US, but you gotta get used to it. This is only the beginning. I really like the US, but their position as the worlds number 1 is gone in a few ways. Your cars are so crappy that it'd be unfair to compare them to the European counterparts.
freddy813 2 months ago
@freddy813 hehe :) once again, i'm glad that you have your own point of view, it's good, stick to it. but i got to tell you something, i'm Russian myself and i'm living and flying in Kazakhstan. and sure thing it's Boeing. sorry, dude, i'm not American at all and the first plane i learned to fly was A320 type. :)
kostyaeagle 2 months ago
@kostyaeagle Well, I'm an Airbus driver and I prefer it to the Boeing. It is more oriented towards a higher level of comfort for the pilots and minimizes the workload so there are more ressources for more important things during emergencies. And yes of course you are entitled to your opinion as well, but it doesn't change the fact that the A320 series is the fastest selling commercial airliner ever and the NEO has completely outsold the 737MAX until now
freddy813 2 months ago
@freddy813 well, ferddy, i'm glad you enjoy Airbus and i really wish you pleasant flights! it's like somebody likes fords and someone else likes toyotas, i guess :) all i can really hope for is that we all stay up there as much as we should in those birds and that we all land in an appropriate place. let them fight not only for money, but for safety. i stick to that one :)
wish you to NOT have any emergencies and that neither of us ever experience what it is to be in a real one. all the best!
kostyaeagle 2 months ago
FREDDY THE FREELOADER!
@freddy813 Hey I remember you from Fox News and they call you "Freddy The Freeloader" cuz your always sneaking into 1ST Class and stealing condiments and meals from 1ST class passengers while their snoozing, LOL your a joke!
LottoWinner999 2 months ago
@LottoWinner999 Well, funny you should mention it. I saw you in Americas funnies videos. You're that fat dude who sucks another fags dick while sleeping. Haha funny you should show up here.
freddy813 2 months ago
as time is showing, the A380 is plain, just too BIG! For commercial (people) travel, they can't fill the aircraft. For cargo, I think the Airbus is going to be awesome. But when a plane is flying with 3/5th full, it's not logistical and makes for an expensive flight for those wishing to board that flight. All in all, the workhorse has been the 747, and I think it's as big as airlines want. As we are seeing, bigger isn't better! The two big winners here, 747-8 and 787!
kaidosbuddy 3 months ago
@kaidosbuddy
There are plenty of routes where a A380 can be flown at max. capacity. Emirates with 90 A380 on order or Lufthansa with 17 already showed interest for a even bigger A380-900. The 747-8 a winner? With only 36 orders for the passenger version it really doesn't look so. It's a good plane, but it's stuck in a very small niche between the 777-300er and the A380. The 787 is in a totally different segment, replacing the 767 and opening new long haul routes with less passenger density.
blablubb12345 3 months ago
@kaidosbuddy You are partialy correct but don't forget even if they have empty seats they might cover that with cargo, and cargo does generate income
prohelipilot1 3 months ago
@kaidosbuddy I guess that's why the A380 so far has been far more popular than the 747-8
freddy813 2 months ago
I think 747-8 is better than the a380
ernie2498 3 months ago
On technics (and design), A380 is really better. Why Americans can not admit that? And I don't say that because I'm European !
kekelinks 3 months ago
airbus is still way better thasn boeing
mafiawarz22 3 months ago
no way, unless boeing make a triple decker it wont beat the A380!!!
PHSWAGGERZZ 3 months ago
A380 IS BETTER THAN B747-8
21boxhead 3 months ago
@21boxhead No it isn't
Moonlite312 3 months ago
@Moonlite312 ITS BETTER A380 IS ALL-NEW DESIGN
B747-8 IS JUST AN UPGRADE
21boxhead 3 months ago
only thing that sucks is that first class tickets on these flights usually end up $10,000+
SuperEd311 3 months ago
It's a 747-8 not a 747-800 u idiot.
pilotforlife100 3 months ago
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The difference is TIME!
A380 is a new kid on the block, so no doubt its center of attention these days!
747 on the other hand looks like a rather mature guy; but its been tested/proven through the last 4 decades, flown by every major airlines throughout the world; it has kept the best safety record in air travel history; been through mid-air bomb explosion, and even flew up side down!
maryjoemontana 3 months ago
Can't Boeing and Airbus work together. 3:
Able2235 3 months ago
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FORGET 747& A380......., R.E.V.O.L.U.T.I.O.N is all in 787!
Folks this is the most fuel efficient, most environmentally friendly, most lightest & yet strongest composite material composed of, most quietest, best cabin air pressure/ air purification system, and most comfortable ride for passengers in any plane ever built so far; I'm so very proud of you, Dreamliner!!
MisterSunson 3 months ago
I never heard such a bullshit like this. The A 380 is an all new aircraft costing over 15 billion € just to develop this plane. Now the new 747-8 is a remake of the 747-400 as an answer from Boeing to the A 380. Always typical American style to olay the drums and cry out loud for nothing. As far as i know the 747-8 passenger version has only 2 ( !!!!!! ) customers , LH and Korean. No 747 or 777 or 787 will ever beat the A 380. Face the truth guys.............
Kassowar65 3 months ago
@Kassowar65
The 747-8i got a few orders lately, 2 from Arik Air and 4 from Transaero (who also ordered 4 A380). It's not a bad plane but, as someone else said, it's biggest enemy isn't the A380 but the 777-300ER.
blablubb12345 3 months ago
@blablubb12345 6 more orders ? Wow !! See , i am working in aviation business and i have a real close relation to Toulouse and Hamburg ( Airbus ) . If the 777 is a competitor for the A 380 i can only shake my head and wonder about that ignorance. Dream on. That`s so ridiculous that i refuse further corespondance. European technology based on German know how is a class of it`s own. Everybody knows that. Worldwide.
Dream on with your 777..............
Kassowar65 3 months ago
@Kassowar65
Calm down buddy, you just misunderstood my comment. I wrote that the biggest rival to the 748 is the 77W, not the A380 because they are very close in capacity. The A380 is pretty much in a class of it's own regarding capacity and cost per seat. Btw. i'm german and for sure not a Boeing fanboy. Although i think that the 77W is the best thing Boeing did for years.
blablubb12345 3 months ago
@blablubb12345 OK , ok. Sorry. Wollte echt nicht glauben , daß irgendeiner so borniert sein kann und dieses Meisterstück der Ingeniuersleistung A 380 mit der aufgemotzten 747-8 auf eine Plattform zu stellen. Die 747-8 ist ein verzeifelter Versuch die Felle am wegschwimmen zu hindern. Keine 777,787 oder 747-8 wird den Siegeszug der A 380 verhindern können. Das ist ein komplett anderes Flugzeug , wenn Du mal die Strecke von Sydney nach Dubai geflogen bist , wirst wissen was ich meine.Cheers
Kassowar65 3 months ago
@Kassowar65 What are you talking about? 747-8 has a totally new redesigned tail section completely different new wings that flex ,the wings are positioned and perform like no other commercial plane(except the 787).The GE engines are way ahead of anybody and save record amounts of fuel and are the quietest engines around which translates into big and crucial $ or Euro savings for the airlines etc,etc. If it wasn't for the 747 there wouldn't be a 380.Hey that A350 is delayed? Not so easy to build
Moonlite312 3 months ago
@Moonlite312 That`s wonderful. Aplaus. New wing section or not. Doesn`t make a difference. You guys in Seattle can not live with the fact that European technology is a bit more advanced than the American. Airbus is like a fat sting in the ass of Boeing. Besides : without the escaped German engeeniers during world war 2 the company Boeing wouldn`t exist like that today. Your products are wonderful but Airbus is at least on the same level. The A 380 is above all. Hard to accept...............
Kassowar65 3 months ago
Boeing is the undisputed king, you cannot compare the 2, Airbus planes are cheaply built throwaways, There is no Airbus that will ever match the Boeings for airframe life. Airbuses are cheap and less complex and less safe but they flood the market with cheap throwaways kinda like your Bic lighter
prohelipilot1 3 months ago
@prohelipilot1 Idiot. Try to look up Fly by wire. Airbus was/is way ahead of Boeing regarding that. Also, try to look up Load alleviation function and flight envelope on the airbus. Meanwhile, the 737 is still using heavy cables and wires making it less economicalm partly due to extra weight and partly due to extra maintenance.
freddy813 2 months ago
@freddy813 IDIOT I did look up fly by wire, first all fly by wire aircraft - General Dynamics F-16 figter jet, oh and you tought airbus invented it. American space shuttle was also all flyby wire. was yours, oh shit I forgot you assholes don't have a space vehicle. Airbus meanwhile is alright but you freddy813 are an idiot.
prohelipilot1 2 months ago
@freddy813 dumb comments from a dumb Danish pastry boy. You build fuckall in Denmark
prohelipilot1 2 months ago
@prohelipilot1 It sounds like Freddy the Eurotard does not realize the A380-WE(White Elephant) is going to be cancelled cuz its 20 Bil. Euros in debt + Airbus has only deliverd 59 A380-WE in 9 nine years. The say A380-WE will not make a profit + its just a matter of time before its cancelled. Guess what the A350-SDL(Super Delay Liner) still has no engine? FAA said new RR Trent Engine will be extensivley tested because RR Trent Jet Engines are predisposed to explode. A350-SDLis a hunk of junk!!
LottoWinner999 2 months ago
@LottoWinner999 LottoWinner is retarded and american, so ignore him.
Pvjinflight 2 months ago
@Pvjinflight is another stupid Finlander who fucks his reindeer morning, noon and at night does fuck every thing including his pathetic life as an Airbus Freakazoid!
LottoWinner999 2 months ago
@LottoWinner999 Rofl retard
Pvjinflight 2 months ago
@Pvjinflight Hey "Your Precious A380" is a ten year old out dated flying hunk of junk that has put Airbus in 20 Billions Euros of Debt. Its RR Exploding Trent Engines make it a real liability!
LottoWinner999 2 months ago