Mughals were Uzbeks......babur was a descendant of Chengiz Khan.......they were not Indians.......99% of Indian and pakistani muslims, who are just a result of conversion and who hate hate Indian aka Hindu culture should feel ashamed of themself abt how they hate their own past
@ThePseudoBasher Fuck off u uncivilized nomadic turko mongol donkey u ppl have no ıdentity fucked by mongols over and over again then by the russians now tryıng to claim greatness by associating yourselves to the hıstoric richness of india .. asholes go drink you donkey milk nomadic barbarians.
@smustakim87 you mother fucker indian...dont forget you and your indian nationality is shame for your nation.Our ancestors fucked you on your own land.They ruled on you for 700 years.We are the one who gave India and identity.This is false that India was rich.Read the book of Great babur....when he concurred india he found india poor and clothless.....each and every food which you eat today is introduced by central asians and the buildings in India made by Mughals.
@ThePseudoBasher for your information......only Punjabi's and Sindhi's in Pakistan are Indians.Baluch,Pakhtoons,Tajiks,Hazara and other all are Central Asians.correct your self dirty indian
Can say so because I know Pakiza Begum ... she is Mother in law of my cousin sister ... she now no longer lives in Niti Baugh ... she now lives in NOIDA, UP.
Babur is the grandson of Timur Lenk(özbek Han),he conquered hole India.And another point is that mongolian and turks have the same ancestors,today most of this people called Turk and not Mongolian.
Babur and Tumir are Uzbek Turkic people who descended from Mongols. They are not Turkish from Turkey at all. They did not consider themself when they invaded India as Mongols not Turk. Later Mughals became Indian-Mongol-Persian.
No uzbeks are not Turkish. They are mongolid people Turkish causaisan culturaly same phyiscal not. Early Mughals are Mongols from modernday Uzbeistan later Mughal are rajput and Mongol desent.
Before making such ignorant statements you should read Baburnama written by Babur himself in TURKI where He writes that he is a TURK and his language is TURKI. You don't even know who the Uzbeks are.
The work "TURK" is a ligustics term . There are people of caucasoid and monogolid descent that call them self "Turk". Now the word Turk is mostly affilated with Turkey. What im trying to say is the early Mughals was Monogolid people that descended from the stepees.MONGOLS!!
Not every people who has Mongoloid feature and comes from steppes can be regarded as Mongols. I am Kyrgyz I am mongoloid and but I am NOT Mongol. Understand??? So is Babur.
are you talking race here??? you dont make such stupid generalisations....in that case all the white people come from aryans so.....do you call british empire aryan eprire,,,no prussia but again aryan,,,,no russian again aryan empire ????? BABUR HAD NO FUCKING MONGOL BLOOD....READ THE BABURNAME!!!! HE CALLS HIMSELF TURK,,,you bastads say ' NO YOU ARE MONGOL!!!' how annoying is that????
Dude,Turk is a wide umbrella term. People who speak the Turkic language is called a Turk. And the fact they called themself MUGHAL = MONGOL in Persian doesnt MEAN ANY THING? The early Mughal was Mongols that spoke the Turkic language. There are people in Afghanistan and Central Asian that have Mongol blood to this day,but call themselves Turk,Hazraras,etc..
Liten jerkCOW360,,,you are just waste of my time....
first of all turk is not "a wide umbrella term". it is a wide family of nations so closely related that can be called one nation TURKIY (im not saying turkEy) nation.
"The early Mughals was Mongols that spoke Turkic language"....you dont make sense at all. either your english sucks or you are ku-ku. I am Tajik from Uzbekistan, so (according to you) I am actually uzbek who "spoke" tajik XXDDD how funny is that!!
Dude the word "Turk" or "Turkic" IS an umbrella term. Just like Indo-European . Any one that speaks the Turkic languages is labeled as a Turk.And a common language doesnt mean your related,as Arabic is used by Negros,Semitics,etc just like the Turkic languages is used by Mongoloid people and Caucasian.
You are incorrect! When Genghis Khan invaded South West and East Asia and conquered the region they acquired great deal of talented Engineers, Artisan and all type builders. Their native language was Turki. Chugtai Khan 2nd son of Genghis Khan become Governor of the Region, who adopted Turki language as known by Chugtai Turk. Timrid or Tamblane or Taimur Lung who was Turk Muslim king and Married to Chugtai Khan's daughter.
Moghul dynasty established by Babur a grandson of Taimur
Again you are incorrect! Babur did had Mongol blood line which emerges from his grand mother side, which happened to be daughter of Chugtai Khan and of course Chugtai was second son of Genghis Khan. If you read wiki on the net you will get concise knowledge instead of swering? AND YES Turk (ie) language was spoken large part of central Asia, as Chugtai Turk. The whole Babur-e-Nama written in Chugtai Turk I am sure you came across that?
first of all the denom of "uzbek" came to mainstage only with Shayboni Khan in the 16th centruy. Temur znat' ne znal pro Uzbekov (literal translation: Temur didn't even know if he knew about Uzbeks). second of all he took just Dehli (probably didn't see point in going further. otherwise he could crush not only india or china but any power on earth)
i might agree with u with uzbek word uzbek is not old same as tojik or qazaq etc.about temur not going further was some kind os virus or sicknes and he saw no use of going further it was all full of jungals and no big cities china he was in his way to china when he left this world may peace be with him always
Did you ever look in the mirror my friend??? You are not mongolian, you are TURKIC! Even Cengizhan´s army was 90% Turks! EVEN today in mongolia live more ALTAY-TURKS than Mongols!
There are 250 MILLION TURKIC people and only 1Million mongols living on earth! CENGIZ HAN´s name is given from his TURKIC soldiers CENGIZ or "DENGIZ" means ocean in Turkic, KHAN is also an original TURKIC title!!!
Well Babur was no Turk, no Iranian eather, not even Afgahn, allthough he had his sommer residence in Kabul for long time. he belongs to Turkmen Tribe(has nothing to do with Turkey)<Moghul(named in India)<Mongul. He was born some where around (Samarkand) Tajkistan/Usbekeistan Just read his Diary (Baburnama) Then u know it. Sorry for dispointing Turkisch(Turkey) Donkeys,unfortunatly the most hated nation in Europe! (or Asia, or all over??)
and btw tajiks arent turkic they are persian they speak persian they have persian culture and are from persian background. so take your turkish facism somewhere else!
hey babur was one of the great turk kings ok.and nadersha was a turk too.also mongols are turk too.turks the best and greatest nasion in the world.long lafe to all turks .long life to panturkisim. die 4 enemyes of turks.
babur hail from fa'ana, a small principlality. but he was established mugul dynasty in india. he was buried in kabul. BABUR A'ASH KOSH KE ALAM DUBARA NIST
ich muss sagen das die perser ein grosser volk waren. aber sie haben immer unter türken gelebt und dahar wurde shia idee nicht so gross god sei dank. Babür shah war ein grosse man und ein türke iraner sagen er war ein perser aber das stimmt nicht weil sein vater war von timur enkelsohn und timur ist ein özbeke der sich mogol nennte weil damal mogol zusein was gutes war sorry persicher leute ihr seid nur in iran
Schopfergeist, Mongolen wurden erst humanisiert als sie ein touch der persischen Mentalität, Kultur und Sprache abbekommen haben. Diese ganzen Erben was die Moghulen hinterlassen haben wie Taj Mahal wurden von Persern/Tajiken und Bauherrn aus Shiraz (heute Iran) gebaut. Die ganze Elite der Bildung, Architektur etc. waren perserabstämmig.
What other choice did they have? They slaughtered the actual Persian peoples, and had no culture of their own. The Mongols were nothing more than hideous, cultureless, inhumane animals.
well if u look at persian history they have done horible things to others and also each other. the muslim iranians slaughtered zorashtrians and nadirshah the safavid massacared so many indians when he captured delhi.
lol you stupid donkey shut your filthy mouth you ugly mongol fuck! name some of the iranians heroes that are turkish there are none.when the persian nation was the strongest in the world the turks were raping their own mothers and drinking horse piss.
My God look at this moron. the turks ruled Iran probably since the 13 century :S. Ghaznavids, Seljuks, Kwarazmids, Ilkhanate, The safavids (turcic in their ethnic background with the kizilbasis as militares are todays alevi turks in turkey and azerbaijan)
the seljucs and safavids were half persian half turkic. the official language of iran was allways persian most of the soldiers and generals of irans military were persian. the turkics were passed down to be kings becouse of families and bloodline they did not defeat anyone and no one actually wanted them out of power.btw turkeys language in court was and higher class was persian untile 1867 or so.
Mughals were Uzbeks......babur was a descendant of Chengiz Khan.......they were not Indians.......99% of Indian and pakistani muslims, who are just a result of conversion and who hate hate Indian aka Hindu culture should feel ashamed of themself abt how they hate their own past
ThePseudoBasher 1 year ago
@ThePseudoBasher Fuck off u uncivilized nomadic turko mongol donkey u ppl have no ıdentity fucked by mongols over and over again then by the russians now tryıng to claim greatness by associating yourselves to the hıstoric richness of india .. asholes go drink you donkey milk nomadic barbarians.
smustakim87 9 months ago
@smustakim87 you mother fucker indian...dont forget you and your indian nationality is shame for your nation.Our ancestors fucked you on your own land.They ruled on you for 700 years.We are the one who gave India and identity.This is false that India was rich.Read the book of Great babur....when he concurred india he found india poor and clothless.....each and every food which you eat today is introduced by central asians and the buildings in India made by Mughals.
shahidinterliner 4 months ago
@ThePseudoBasher for your information......only Punjabi's and Sindhi's in Pakistan are Indians.Baluch,Pakhtoons,Tajiks,Hazara and other all are Central Asians.correct your self dirty indian
shahidinterliner 4 months ago
Well ... this documentary is quite accurate ...
Can say so because I know Pakiza Begum ... she is Mother in law of my cousin sister ... she now no longer lives in Niti Baugh ... she now lives in NOIDA, UP.
Critic224 1 year ago
please feed it in Hindi Lanquage for wide recognation
iamhotashraf 2 years ago
'turk' is a word of 5th century origin.
mongols,yakuts,tungusks,manchurian&koreans are near eastern & far eastern branches of altaic family from where turks hv common origin.
'mughal, is a persian cognate of word 'mongol'.
its as simple as that why fight over it.western turks shudnt b ashamed/contemptuous of their eastern brothers.
AumGotamParamSanatan 2 years ago
Özbeks are one group of Turks today.
Asikbektas 3 years ago
Timured never conquer "all of India". I can tell you guys are talking out of your ass. Why do Turkish people then Mughals are Turkish? Their NOT LOL!
jakeGOW360 3 years ago
Babur is the grandson of Timur Lenk(özbek Han),he conquered hole India.And another point is that mongolian and turks have the same ancestors,today most of this people called Turk and not Mongolian.
Asikbektas 3 years ago
Babur and Tumir are Uzbek Turkic people who descended from Mongols. They are not Turkish from Turkey at all. They did not consider themself when they invaded India as Mongols not Turk. Later Mughals became Indian-Mongol-Persian.
jakeGOW360 3 years ago
bullshit, uzbeks didn't descend from mongols. they are definitely turks
torobay 2 years ago
No uzbeks are not Turkish. They are mongolid people Turkish causaisan culturaly same phyiscal not. Early Mughals are Mongols from modernday Uzbeistan later Mughal are rajput and Mongol desent.
jakeGOW360 2 years ago
Before making such ignorant statements you should read Baburnama written by Babur himself in TURKI where He writes that he is a TURK and his language is TURKI. You don't even know who the Uzbeks are.
torobay 2 years ago
The work "TURK" is a ligustics term . There are people of caucasoid and monogolid descent that call them self "Turk". Now the word Turk is mostly affilated with Turkey. What im trying to say is the early Mughals was Monogolid people that descended from the stepees.MONGOLS!!
jakeGOW360 2 years ago 2
Thats it Mongols-"Mughals".. Damn
jakeGOW360 2 years ago
Not every people who has Mongoloid feature and comes from steppes can be regarded as Mongols. I am Kyrgyz I am mongoloid and but I am NOT Mongol. Understand??? So is Babur.
torobay 2 years ago
Yes I know that is what im trying to SAY! They really Mughals were Mongolid people!!!
jakeGOW360 2 years ago
are you talking race here??? you dont make such stupid generalisations....in that case all the white people come from aryans so.....do you call british empire aryan eprire,,,no prussia but again aryan,,,,no russian again aryan empire ????? BABUR HAD NO FUCKING MONGOL BLOOD....READ THE BABURNAME!!!! HE CALLS HIMSELF TURK,,,you bastads say ' NO YOU ARE MONGOL!!!' how annoying is that????
tojikVSeroni 2 years ago
Dude,Turk is a wide umbrella term. People who speak the Turkic language is called a Turk. And the fact they called themself MUGHAL = MONGOL in Persian doesnt MEAN ANY THING? The early Mughal was Mongols that spoke the Turkic language. There are people in Afghanistan and Central Asian that have Mongol blood to this day,but call themselves Turk,Hazraras,etc..
jakeGOW360 2 years ago
Liten jerkCOW360,,,you are just waste of my time....
first of all turk is not "a wide umbrella term". it is a wide family of nations so closely related that can be called one nation TURKIY (im not saying turkEy) nation.
"The early Mughals was Mongols that spoke Turkic language"....you dont make sense at all. either your english sucks or you are ku-ku. I am Tajik from Uzbekistan, so (according to you) I am actually uzbek who "spoke" tajik XXDDD how funny is that!!
tojikVSeroni 2 years ago
Dude the word "Turk" or "Turkic" IS an umbrella term. Just like Indo-European . Any one that speaks the Turkic languages is labeled as a Turk.And a common language doesnt mean your related,as Arabic is used by Negros,Semitics,etc just like the Turkic languages is used by Mongoloid people and Caucasian.
jakeGOW360 2 years ago
@tojikVSeroni
You are incorrect! When Genghis Khan invaded South West and East Asia and conquered the region they acquired great deal of talented Engineers, Artisan and all type builders. Their native language was Turki. Chugtai Khan 2nd son of Genghis Khan become Governor of the Region, who adopted Turki language as known by Chugtai Turk. Timrid or Tamblane or Taimur Lung who was Turk Muslim king and Married to Chugtai Khan's daughter.
Moghul dynasty established by Babur a grandson of Taimur
imrank340 1 year ago
@tojikVSeroni
Again you are incorrect! Babur did had Mongol blood line which emerges from his grand mother side, which happened to be daughter of Chugtai Khan and of course Chugtai was second son of Genghis Khan. If you read wiki on the net you will get concise knowledge instead of swering? AND YES Turk (ie) language was spoken large part of central Asia, as Chugtai Turk. The whole Babur-e-Nama written in Chugtai Turk I am sure you came across that?
imrank340 1 year ago
What is uzbek lang?isnt it same with turkish...fucking spy u r
Dasdaus 2 years ago
first of all the denom of "uzbek" came to mainstage only with Shayboni Khan in the 16th centruy. Temur znat' ne znal pro Uzbekov (literal translation: Temur didn't even know if he knew about Uzbeks). second of all he took just Dehli (probably didn't see point in going further. otherwise he could crush not only india or china but any power on earth)
tojikVSeroni 2 years ago
i might agree with u with uzbek word uzbek is not old same as tojik or qazaq etc.about temur not going further was some kind os virus or sicknes and he saw no use of going further it was all full of jungals and no big cities china he was in his way to china when he left this world may peace be with him always
qataghane007 2 years ago
TURKS
AZER1FIGHTER 3 years ago
yah... History says, some Indians left india
in the Middle age... their descendants now known as Gypsy
adchy7 3 years ago
Did you ever look in the mirror my friend??? You are not mongolian, you are TURKIC! Even Cengizhan´s army was 90% Turks! EVEN today in mongolia live more ALTAY-TURKS than Mongols!
There are 250 MILLION TURKIC people and only 1Million mongols living on earth! CENGIZ HAN´s name is given from his TURKIC soldiers CENGIZ or "DENGIZ" means ocean in Turkic, KHAN is also an original TURKIC title!!!
AZER1FIGHTER 3 years ago
Wasn't Babur a Mongol rather than a Turkic?
zinkcoo 3 years ago
İdiot nonathletpointer! I can easily understand the language behind (woman's voice) You know nothing moron.
Taloqan 3 years ago
Well Babur was no Turk, no Iranian eather, not even Afgahn, allthough he had his sommer residence in Kabul for long time. he belongs to Turkmen Tribe(has nothing to do with Turkey)<Moghul(named in India)<Mongul. He was born some where around (Samarkand) Tajkistan/Usbekeistan Just read his Diary (Baburnama) Then u know it. Sorry for dispointing Turkisch(Turkey) Donkeys,unfortunatly the most hated nation in Europe! (or Asia, or all over??)
nonathletpointer 4 years ago
Babur didn't lay the foundations for the Turkic Empire in India: Mahmud of Ghazni did that in the 10th/11th Century!
And Babur wasn't a Turk; he was a Turkicized Mongol. Mughal = Mongol in Persian.
dbzerbardock 4 years ago
his mother was mongol, a direct descendent of gengis khan.
shalkhai 3 years ago
and btw tajiks arent turkic they are persian they speak persian they have persian culture and are from persian background. so take your turkish facism somewhere else!
persiandudeee 4 years ago
hey babur was one of the great turk kings ok.and nadersha was a turk too.also mongols are turk too.turks the best and greatest nasion in the world.long lafe to all turks .long life to panturkisim. die 4 enemyes of turks.
baburhan420 4 years ago
Why you dont say Babur şah is Turk, yes he is Turk!All of the world will see muslim and turks!
eroll27 4 years ago
babur hail from fa'ana, a small principlality. but he was established mugul dynasty in india. he was buried in kabul. BABUR A'ASH KOSH KE ALAM DUBARA NIST
zain from hyderabad
zain571948 4 years ago
U guyz need to talk in english if u want to comment on youtube,fukin faggots.Cant understand a word of what ur sayin.
kay459 4 years ago
ich muss sagen das die perser ein grosser volk waren. aber sie haben immer unter türken gelebt und dahar wurde shia idee nicht so gross god sei dank. Babür shah war ein grosse man und ein türke iraner sagen er war ein perser aber das stimmt nicht weil sein vater war von timur enkelsohn und timur ist ein özbeke der sich mogol nennte weil damal mogol zusein was gutes war sorry persicher leute ihr seid nur in iran
dogulu23 4 years ago
Schopfergeist, Mongolen wurden erst humanisiert als sie ein touch der persischen Mentalität, Kultur und Sprache abbekommen haben. Diese ganzen Erben was die Moghulen hinterlassen haben wie Taj Mahal wurden von Persern/Tajiken und Bauherrn aus Shiraz (heute Iran) gebaut. Die ganze Elite der Bildung, Architektur etc. waren perserabstämmig.
ParsistaniTajik 4 years ago
"Embraced Persian culture."
What other choice did they have? They slaughtered the actual Persian peoples, and had no culture of their own. The Mongols were nothing more than hideous, cultureless, inhumane animals.
Schopfergeist 4 years ago
well if u look at persian history they have done horible things to others and also each other. the muslim iranians slaughtered zorashtrians and nadirshah the safavid massacared so many indians when he captured delhi.
Jaipune 4 years ago
u fucking hindoo dont even have a civilization...nomadic ppl living in jungles.
kellog1 4 years ago
well what are persians? bloody fire worshippers then were forced by safavids to become shias?
Jaipune 4 years ago
hindus are nomadic? lol! we never left india! it's central asian peoples (excluding persians) who are nomads.
expectopatrono 4 years ago
yah... History says, some Indians left india
in the Middle age... their descendants now known as Gypsy
adchy7 3 years ago
so youre saying Nadir Shah was persian?
Besiktashaydi 4 years ago
i thought nadir shah was an iranian
sameerindia 4 years ago
He's a turkmen from the Afhsar tribe almost every iranian hero are from turkic backround
Besiktashaydi 4 years ago
id thats the case then why do iranians make fun of turks?
most of the jokes are on turks?
Jaipune 4 years ago
I know thats wierd, the persians have gone more facsistic of themselves
Besiktashaydi 4 years ago
lol you stupid donkey shut your filthy mouth you ugly mongol fuck! name some of the iranians heroes that are turkish there are none.when the persian nation was the strongest in the world the turks were raping their own mothers and drinking horse piss.
persiandudeee 4 years ago
My God look at this moron. the turks ruled Iran probably since the 13 century :S. Ghaznavids, Seljuks, Kwarazmids, Ilkhanate, The safavids (turcic in their ethnic background with the kizilbasis as militares are todays alevi turks in turkey and azerbaijan)
turkicshia 4 years ago
the seljucs and safavids were half persian half turkic. the official language of iran was allways persian most of the soldiers and generals of irans military were persian. the turkics were passed down to be kings becouse of families and bloodline they did not defeat anyone and no one actually wanted them out of power.btw turkeys language in court was and higher class was persian untile 1867 or so.
persiandudeee 4 years ago
leran history first then talk idiot !
oguzkhan2561 3 years ago
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@persiandudeee
You are laughing stock.
SirianKings 1 year ago
where does she live? never heard about her in India
sameerindia 4 years ago
ma'shallah, babur was one of histories most powerful and feared emperors.
pakimuslim 4 years ago