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  • uhhh hell was created for the devil and his angels, not humans. so no. this video doesnt know what its talking about. 

  • Please

  • Between reason or chance/opportunity 3 and 4 - one who has freely wholly opened up self and humbly asked and then in silence listened until answer came knows the folly of this logical/human reasoning. Churches appose # 4, and number 4 is the answer and promise of the Father and Jesus both his reason for coming and going. The language of the Father of lights/spirit is simple and clear that even the simplest of us might understand. "I must go that the comforter come" and "I AM always with you".

  • surly if you believe in that concept - u have missed a great deal if u red the bible, and if u didnt surly u didnt believe such if u were told, as life and nature demonstrate otherwise. Most of the OT is broken/contrary. The NT is used for different reasons and as "a guide to heaven" is not much of a map unless it is used by someone who knows how to read the particular map.

  • Also you leave out MERCY

  • Your doctrine breaks down in many places... but first and foremost when you say we must "have a perfect record". If you are a Christian then you have missed what your Bible says about Jesus "paying the price" for you. Typical Baptist beliefs

  • 'look at nature',a christian friend of mine ones said to me, a non-believer. 'How can you not believe in god, looking at natures beauty & splendour, with all its amazing colorfull creatures'? "what to think of such a creator i replied, 'such an artist, indeed having created al that loveable life, just to deside next that they all have to live off of eachother, convicting them to a state of constant fear of being eaten alive or being forced to butcher others for your survival. A Loving God? No!

  • This video is actually not clear in explaining why Jesus died on the cross for us. It left out too many important points. and like how someone before me said, Jesus didn't need to convince God to come to Earth because God was planning for Jesus to come here all along. This video has some errors. The beginning of this video was good, but the explanation of Jesus coming here and the whole "record" thing is rather odd.

  • Was Jesus perfect? There's things he said to do in the bible that were sinful. So I don't get this video.

  • Yahshua never petitioned the Farther to save our soules, as this video suggests at 04:00.

    This is outright blasphemy, YAHWEH and YAHWEH alone was the one who would determin out future salvation, this was/is a plan of the Farther/YAHWEH, worked out through Yahshua, this video seems to suggest that YAHWEH needed convincing to save us, when infact it was the FARTHER'S plan all along.

  • JESUS saves.

    the reason you do not understand is because you are not of God. Unless God gives you the Spirit, you cannot discern. ask and it shall be given to you.

  • The BOOK OF MAN BY MAN FOR SUCKER.LOAD OF SHIT 100% SHIT.

  • Dad thank you for sending me this! I luv u:)

  • p.s. no offense to any individual or to God or to Jesus. I believe in the tenants of faith, love, and good will. I do, however, doubt the corrupt interpretation of the DIVINE WORD after it was manipulated to suit the needs of those in power. TRUE love is NOT a looping maze of guilt, punishment, fear and servitude. Real love comes with enlightenment and true connection with our souls and the souls around us. Jesus said our father is within us all and is the embodiment of all love:) not immaturity

  • wow... now that he explains lol im convinced!! the whole thing is a giant mind control machine to instill fear, guilt, and servitude in the minds of the masses. All to ensure the majority does not overwhelm the elite and put an end to the power they covet so dearly. This system also allows for unlimited hardships in the lives of its subjects who passively await the promise of a better life after they DIE. If a man said, "hey, if you do what I want, when you DIE, it will be cool!" would you lol

  • @Anonymousvisionary Well said.

  • What i find humorous almost is that in order to accept this message, faith has to be present, not logic....some people are trying to explain this with logic.....so what is missing is Faith......if you have Faith and a receptive heart you can understand and receive these things being said....if you don't have it, you can't understand it..God Said "The fools of this world will be wise, while the wise r made fools." U cant use your brain to make sense of it.....you must use your heart.....

  • @Akoroth, Im assuming you watched the video before making these comments.....Shame on you!

  • ok, finally watched the video! This was awesome, I loved how it was put together! It refreshed my spirit....thank you!

  • Akoroth, I know the bible can be confusing, especially the first testament. Please read the Second testament. To me, this is the real message. Jesus' teachings may help answer alot of your questions. There are also many other books out there besides the bible that can help. The Case for Christ is one. I believe the author was on a mission to disprove God and found evidence to the contrary.

  • g you find wrong with it. WHO CARES!!!!!!! Everyone, and i do mean every single person, that i have seen Bible bash, are always so completely angry when they do it. Which leads me to believe that Satan is really working on that person. Another thing i realize is that, you really do need to research .

  • @Akoroth End of conversation. No sense in conversing with the senseless.

  • :) This changed my outlook on alot of things. Thank you for this clear explanation. <3 God Bless you all.

  • @Akoroth Call it what you will...call me what you will. It's not ME you are hurting or offending. Apparently you will believe what you want to believe...It's obvious that I am not going to change that...only God can. Just so you know, if you had REALLY read the Bible, it says that NO ONE knows the DATE (year, month, hour, minute or second) of the rapture. The Bible says only He (God) knows. Don't wait til it's too late to find out the truth. It's your future.

  • @joybird5 The bible predicting things happening in the bible nullifies your argument. Me predicting i will say something on a date and time that only i know doesn't make me god.

    Logic, motherfucker, do you consider it?

  • @Akoroth I just wanted you to know that the messages I send you are simply because I care about people and want them to know that Jesus Christ is loving and wants only to save those who are lost because of sin (going to Hell).  There is a Heaven and there is a Hell. Please believe that, and believe in God. He loves you. It took me a while to finally figure that out, myself...now that I have, I wouldn't live without Him. The "rapture" is a very real thing...please be ready.

  • @joybird5 70 AD. 1844. 1914. 1918. 1925. 1942. 1981. 1988. 1989. 1992. 1993. 1994. 2011. 2060.

    What are these dates? they're the dates of the rapture, apparently. We've been through 13 raptures already. 4 in the last 19 years. I'm 17. i survived two of them.

    You are not caring about other people, you are preaching a book that condones a lot of very inhumane things. I think that's called hate speech. I call it being an evil cowardly dog.

  • @Akoroth Ahem. The "Raptures" were predicted by people. Perhaps if you had some common sense to look within the bible, it clearly states that "No human being shall know of its time" Thank you~ -3-

  • @DemeriTaliChuma The bible predicting something, then using the bible as evidence for being it real, is like me saying Unicorns are real, and the evidence for them being real is that the Unicorn told me it was real. It's called an unfalsifiable hypothesis. Its the idea that you cannot disprove my argument that i told you a unicorn told me it was real.

  • @DemeriTaliChuma And it also just excludes itself from any form of study or evidence whatsoever. If i made a statement with no scientific proof or possibility of even studying it at all, such as "One day man will sprout wings and fly", you would not be able to even discuss it, so why you bring it up, when it is just a stupid strawman defence mechanism that people with no solid argument use, is mind bogglingly stupid. P.S. Men won't fly. Sorry.

  • @DemeriTaliChuma You see, if you actually admitted to yourself, that you had no solid ground to stand on, not a shred of proof or evidence, or even a tatter of possibility, then maybe you would actually understand why religion is mocked. Your 'faith' is nothing more than being gullible. We've all been gullible in our lives, when i was young i thought the tooth fairy was real, But then i reached the age of reason. So with this logic, i can only assume you're either 5 or retarded.

  • @DemeriTaliChuma You think this is okay? Have you no self respect?

    Deuteronomy 22:28–29

    “If a man meets a virgin who is not betrothed, and seizes her and lies with her, and they are found, then the man who lay with her shall give to the father of the young woman fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife, because he has violated her. He may not divorce her all his days.

    It says if you rape a woman, you can give her dad some money and marry her. "Perfect book?"

  • @DemeriTaliChuma if you had some common sense, you wouldn't belive in a fairy tale written more then 2000 years ago, and has been changing ever since.

  • @joybird5 Too afraid of dying that you have to make up stories about mythical realms in the sky and the core of the earth. Trying to make people feel bad for living how they want. Telling me and billions more that we're born with 'sin'. Sorry to break it to you mate, but we're all 'sinners' You, me, your god, your gods son, your gods son's mother and that joseph fellow as well. Theres not a single person on this earth who hasn't sinned.

  • @joybird5 And last time i checked, wanting to shag a good looking girl didn't make me a bad person. Nor did lying about something stupid that doesn't matter. It just means i was horny and i didn't want that person to know what i was doing.

    Do you honestly think i should be sent to burn in eternity if i get a boner thinking about some girl? If you do, then you're messed up. If i was you, i would seek help, before we get some crazy zealot asassin on our hands.

  • @joybird5 So yeah, at the end of the day. We're all 'sinners' according to this book. But, theres a cure! oh yes there is! What is it you ask? Oh all you have to do is subject your life to the utter control and domination from a group of homophobic slave drivers who treat women like crap and kill you if you disagree with them. Sounds fair eh?

    If there is a heaven, i don't want in. I don't want to be surrounded by delusional mongoloids.

  • @joybird5 But we're not going to heaven, don't worry. I'm not, your not, your god isn't there, no one is. No one is perfect, only perfect things are allowed into heaven. And yes, your god is not perfect. accept it. Disease, plague and death is not the kind of thing i'd like to see on the resumé of a supreme being. This work, god, is not up to scratch. I award you no points christianity, you are all the weakest links, goodbye and goodnight

    See you in hell

  • @Akoroth...Just because bad things happened in the Bible doens't mean they were right. The Bible is a story of different accounts of different lives touched by God in one way or another, most of which were very bad lives, and they did awful things back then just like people do now until God got ahold of them and showed them the right way to live, just like He does now.

  • @joybird5 This video just called it perfect. My point still stands.

  • @joybird5 Killing people for working on sunday and being a homophobe... hmm, yeah. Not one to judge other peoples lives (hurhurhur) but that doesn't seem like the 'right' way to live.

  • bible trash.com

  • I love how "surrendering" to jesus (disgusting word btw) exonerates us from everything bad we do. As long as we try and turn away from the bad and most importantly bend over for jesus we are still considered perfect...no repercussions for wrongdoings, no punishment for bad things, its all good!

    Lol @ number 3 -

    god dissaproves of 7 out of every 9 churches for reasons unknown to us and expects us to be able to find the good ones...

  • Why did god invent the rules knowing that we were unable to live up for them?

    Why does he give infinite punishment for finite crimes?

    Why is every "law" broken considered equal? Is it either heaven, or if at least one is broken, eternal damnation? No middle ground?

    Even if god did create us, that doesn't give him any rights over us. Do your parents have the right to create rules and if you break any of them lock you in the basement and torture you?

    Jesus = ultimate loophole.

  • This is inaccurately stupid

  • I'm sorry but I dont think god is that black and white thinking. nobody is perfect, everybody is here to learn and to grow in their soul. So try to do your best as only you yourself can do :)

  • @xHennessyHD Glad to hear that you are excited about living for God. I would advise though that you seek a relationship with God for yourself and to speak to him on a daily basis as if he was your best friend and read the bible. If you do this your relationship with him will grow and blossom. Just be cautious of what others tell you because it is not always right. thats why it is important to research for yourself. God Bless!!

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  • This is seriously fucked up. Jesus looked forward in time at me huh? So he knows my future? So he already knows where I'm destined to go? PRE-DESTINATION! It doesn't work...

  • makes humans for no reason what so ever- makes adam from dust and eve from adams rib- they eat apple and go to earth for their sin-noah gathers fucking many animals on boat and loving god kills all humans-32 humans repopulate earth with inbreeding-god sees problem with his plan and send himself to sacrifices himself to himself-hundrends years later some random guys gather stories and form book, bible-they make crusades and kill atheists and infidels-burn "witches". makes perfect sense

  • lmfao

  • Hahaha sounds like a bed story for kids, owww! Poor little things :B They must be afraid of the EVERYTHING.

  • Jesus Christ spoke constantly about the kingdom of God. But what is this kingdom? Is it a government? Has it appeared yet—or is it future? Understand what almost no one knows!..—yet they are ALL wrong! Unnecessary confusion and disagreement reign. Here is the Bible... Lot to think about i guess.But the best story ever told in the world...

  • Why can't you see that God is not an external "person" who commands us to do things but gives us the freedom to act as we like? We are God, every one of us, we all hold a part of the light which shines in this universe deep within ourselves, which we have to seek out and find it! That is what this life is about, not trying anxiously day by day to appease commands from a fictional character! There is no good or bad, only what you feel! Hence, if you feel bad, your afterlife becomes Hell as well.

  • fucking bullshit

  • @zedpapa Im gonna pray for you. i guarantee ull regret what you just said when you die. remember: everyone in hell believes. you've been warned....

  • please repent and trust in christ

  • Why does your perfect, i mean holy bible command me to stone gays to death, kill those who work on sunday, treat women as inferior humans to myself, condone slavery and racism among many, many other things?

    I mean, if it's perfect, then why do you not do these things on a daily basis? Your god commands you to. Why does your tenth commandment put women in the same category as cattle and donkeys? Why does your bible call for no murder, but then commands it in the same chapters? Perfection? What?

  • @Akoroth Why are you so upset concerning beliefs that are not your own, that you would go out of your way to speak rashly concerning another when you haven't truly searched these answers out. When in the presence of the God of the universe, the Israelites were taught against sinning. As a pattern for the law of heaven, and declaring the truth of what will destroy a man and keep them out of the heavenly Jerusalem "the soul that sins, it shall die".

  • of sin, or those who did wickedly *which means they knew truth from God & walked contrary to it in rebellion* & at this stoning, would not be found. Nevertheless, the video I can't approve. If man were to burn in eternal suffering, it would make them immortal & eternal life was to belong to them regardless. This was the devil's lie in Eden 'you shall not surely die'; and thus while I believe in hellfire; eternal suffering paints the grossest picture of God & is contrary to Scripture.

  • @Akoroth concerning women; it is a model of heavenly things to represent the submission of the church to the will of God and His Son. Submission then is not merely to woman, but since I am of the church which Christ (the Husband) is head of, submission and reverence should be given when in harmony with God's will. Never does the Bible speak against rendering lawful obedience and submission to those who rule over us, except when standing in contradiction with His Word.

  • In coveting a neighbour's wife, we must remember that Eve fell by deception; yet Adam was openly rebellious to God for the sake of a woman. Since this time on, man's heart has lusted after the beauty of women in such a way even in their heart can commit adultery. This commandment is to show that it's not merely outward acts God sees, but even the thoughts, motives, and intents of our hearts. God's law demands justice, yet God delights in mercy. Christ united both at Calvary for us all.

  • @Akoroth ---- hopefully you will understand where I am coming from; you seem to want answers of what to you seems unjust in the character of God, and while I don't claim to know everything, I too am desiring answers. Please forgive the lengthiness of these comments; I only used the space as it seemed fitting to address some of your concerns and hopefully adequately. Inbox me if you would like to talk further Akoroth; may God through His Son bless you richly =)

  • @LookingforHisgrace I am not upset, i just despise a religion that is far from even morally decent going around telling me i am imperfect from birth because some fellow ate an apple a couple of thousand years ago. Also no, i don't understand were you're coming from. You're subjecting your life to utter control and dominance to a religion that openly tells you to murder people. How is that even questionable? Why do i need to explain to you why this is wrong?

  • @Akoroth I know that where we have two different views on what is fact, we may diverge greatly in understanding where each other is coming from; nevertheless, there are some things which I completely agree with you on. Concerning being imperfect from birth, not all Christians believe in original sin. For instance, my belief is not that God is a tyrant and damns you before proven guilty. Jesus Christ did say "If I hadn't spoken to them, they would not have had sin".

  • @Akoroth Innocent until proven guilty are words that apply more than just the courtrooms of earth; but God is just and knows that we are not all-knowing, but rather ever-learning. Therefore it is good for anyone to know what they believe and have logical reasons why they believe it. If it can be proven based upon with their faith framing all things in a manner that applies to all principles and laws of life, and are persuaded concerning what they believe in honest, intelligent study

  • @Akoroth let all men believe whatever they are convicted to be true. Nevertheless, the same rule should apply to everyone. Let them be free to choose; Christ died to give us liberty, not to enforce His way upon us; but rather to have all who are willing to learn of Him and the gospel to do so; and to have reasonable evidences for their faith to rest upon; no man should be forced to believe what they don't, or to believe blindly, or to force a man to love God and Christ. Such a nature

  • @Akoroth is a vastly different picture than that which I have received from my relationship with God in Christ; He has enlightened the eyes of my understanding and see that God is love, and love never forces. Yet as such, is always just, and in His kingdom, the law of the just demands fulfillment in some form. Yet how can a child be punished for what they never knew, or could possibly have attained. For such a child, it is good that they are obedient to their parents as the higher

  • authority, as the image of the just and correcting father & the law of the mother, by which even a child has at a given point the understanding that they should obey their parents and this is a principle of the right thing to do. Concerning murder; my God has not come to destroy man's lives, but to save. I claim not to be the best of any individual, or even better; but truly, I need my Savior & I need His dominion over my life, or I'd be the worst amongst offenders; the least among men.

  • so I'm not any more worthy than any other, & there is no difference put between me & anyone else; I'm no better than you, nor do I claim such a title with such pomp & arrogance, which without the grace of God, would have full sway over my soul. The only thing that sets me apart from any other, is that I am not strong enough to keep from sinning, but Christ is strong enough to keep me & has & will. The only thing that sets me apart from others, is what Christ has done at Calvary

  • (which He did for you as well- only differing in our response to such a revelation) & also what He's doing in that He lives & therefore I've hope that sin won't enslave me & coldness won't hold me; His love & light & life are the most precious things to a man sinful as myself.

  • @Akoroth Yet, I wouldn't force you to change your beliefs. Akoroth, you're welcome to them if you will live honestly by them. Only don't put others less because they believe as they do; knowing they may have good & just reason for doing so.

  • @Akoroth Please forgive the long reply; it is a subject that I'm deeply passionate about, and I hope you wouldn't hold that against me; and that my words won't lessen your view of the honest biblical record of Jesus Christ because it's so often we who profess to be His ambassadors that fail so hatefully & tarnish that precious name. Please don't hold against Him what others wrongly associate or place upon Him because of others misunderstandings. Hope all is well on your end =)

  • @LookingforHisgrace I could write you an essay on why what you're doing is horrifically wrong, but honestly the second murder comes into it, it should be a no-no from there. Do not murder, do not be racist, do not be sexist, do not be violent, do not steal, do not be prejudiced and be prepared to denounce any and all gods if they condone any of the above. Simple as that. Fact of that matter remains, even if your god existed, he'd still be an utter cunt and evil beyond reason.

  • @LookingforHisgrace And if you aren't willing to do that, then you yourself are condoning at least one of, if not all of the following: rape, murder, sexism, violence, slavery or racism. So at the end of the day, your god doesn't exist and we also know that you think one of those things is okay, which to be honest is all that is need to be said to know plain as day that you are not a normal human being and you think others are less than yourself. In other words, YOU are evil.

  • @Akoroth For me all the descrepencies are resolved by the Words of Jesus. His Words Trump everything! You see, there is only one WORD the rest is Scripture. So, Love Your Father(God) and Love thy Neighbor. The 2 Greatest Commandments.

  • @Akoroth Please take time to read both the New and the Old Testament, then come back and answer this question.

  • @joybird5 I have, And even if i haven't, what could it possibly say in there to justify slavery, sexism, racism, homophobia, rape, murder, killing people on sunday, masses of contradiction, fallacies, lies, torture, violence and immorality? Think your answer through then come back and answer this question.

  • @Akoroth Show me those verses you are speaking of! I don't think you have read them correctly, nowhere in my Bible does He command me to do those things! You are trying to twist things in your own mind, or Satan is deceiving you!

  • @MrAgelessone Satan, really? Who is more evil, the guy who killed the entire worlds population TWICE, 60 or so cities populations, creates diseases with no cure, creates conditions and gives us free will, speech and thought then punishes us for thinking differently than him, or the other character in that book, Satan, who follows gods commands and kills people he tells him to.. all 10 of them.

    Crazy delusional human being.

  • @MrAgelessone If half a dozen people in your town use gods name in vain aka sinning, does that mean the entire town should die? Including babies in their cots, elderly folk just trying to water their gardens or whatever? This book says that's perfectly 100% fine, and proceeds to do it in its pages. Sounds like a typical villain in a fiction book. Lord Voldomort, kills everyone in his way to get to one guy he doesn't like.

  • @Akoroth It does not say treat woman as inferior... it says treat wifes as you would treat yourself, treat them as the weaker sex.. dont harm them or you prayers will be hindered. it says treasure them as christ treasured the church... he didnt die for a donkey.. it doesnt condone murder... all testament laws have been fulfilled...

  • @ravenstj Read the bible, you'll say otherwise

  • @Akoroth I have read the bible for 37 yrs... back and forth... from genesis to revelation.. the word is sealed to my heart

  • Religion forces nice people to do unkind things, and also makes intelligent people say stupid things.

    Are religious people that stupid they can't work out right from wrong using their conscience?

  • @bakerjo02 No because the majority of non-believer's conscience are corrupt. That's why 1,250,000 abortions have occured in the U.S. since world war 2. That's why the adult move industry makes 40 Billion dollars a year, more than the NFL, NBA, MLB..COMBINED..lol right and wrong..Get saved! God bless

  • Evolution is more believable than Heaven or Hell! I think when you get to a certain age you should stop believing in God, just like we do with Santa Claus!

  • If god is all powerful and all knowing, and if the first cause argument is correct.. then we can conclude that everything happens because of cause and effect which started at creation, meaning that man has no free will (as god knows what he will do, because he is all knowing).. so the concepts of hell and hell, salvation and sin... and everything else to do with faith are ridiculous. If god really did create a hell whereby people burn in flames til eternity, then he really is a sadistic fuck

  • This is the best and complete explanation of the bible and right now IT JUST CHANGED AND MOVED ME IN A HUDGE WAY, for the person who uploaded this THANK YOU so much

  • #inb4going2hell

  • This is stupid.

  • negative negative negative people please! stop the madness! what is the purpose of this video? we are all sinner and we all fall short . hell is for people who don't repent and reject GOD! really just live your life in the end you'll find out! if you don't believe so be it!

  • amazing and true

  • Replace the words "God", "Jesus" and "Bible" in this video with just about anything and the argument is just as compelling.

  • To my horror, God says to the person who murdered my loved one: "This is a really bad things you've done. But because I am a loving god, I'm just gonna let you into heaven, because you repented and accepted Jesus before you were executed for murdering someone's loved one."

  • There is a mis-conception of hell I find...The "Pit", "lake of fire", fire and brimstone"....this place of eternal punishment was created for the devil and his angels. Hell for humans I find to be, that after the death of the flesh (first death), there is a judgment on your soul. The "second death" is when you're guilty before God, and he erases your soul from the book of life. No eternal suffering, just you cease to exist. Eg.:

    Romans6:23, Galations6:8, Proverbs11:19, Hebrews10:39, Matt10:28

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  • Guess this video would be number 2 of the 6 things... What to those who are dead in sins seems like foolishness and myth are to those of us that believe the very power of GOD.

  • there is no such thing as someone suffering mindlessly for eternity still alive in hell. the second death is death, no more no less

  • @MrB1gM33ch I agree, this seriously was the best explanation ever!

  • I surrender to God and turn from my sins. For those who have not seen the light I am sorry for you and I will pray for you whether you want me to or not.

  • Wit is wrong wit u ppl.... I was as much a sceptic and, anti religion, advocate as anyone. This is the best expaination to the christianity that i have ever heard.

  • Fucking Christian bullshit. Not hating God, but the idiots who think they're his fucking best friend

  • God doesn't send us to hell. It is by our own selfish ambitions, goals and desires that gets us to hell.

  • This is fuckin babble bullshit!

  • If Jesus was the true son of God why did it take his death to make people believe and trust in him. A loving father would never put his son through all that agony to prove a point....

  • Awesome video... Good message and well spoken. God bless...

  • This makes me think that modern day christians are just schizophrenic. Think about it. If God is just an idea in your head...

  • I surrender to jesus

  • Thank you......

  • This video makes me think of all the bad things I have done.

    I want to change and be a better person. Who's with me?

  • @ptica11

    God made us perfect but the devil tempted adam and eve to sin so it made man un-perfect

  • a guy called Tony Antony was in my school today & re-edited this video & explained it through different pictures but the same words.

    I WATCHED THIS TWO DAYS AGO.

    God has spoken to me through him.

  • What the fuck is this shit...

  • wow... I surrender to you .

  • Very well put together, thank you for this

  • my compliments to the person that made this. Its very nice

  • Other that the huge, obvious logical fallacies and errors, how can you prove that any of this is actually true? The ones you mentioned in the end are not proofs. They are not even valid reasons to believe.

  • The idea that it's OK for God to punish someone for being the way he made them seems immoral to me. Similarly, for the idea that people should suffer eternal torture for honest disbelief. If God is the first cause of all existence, then any inherent strength in free will, or weakness in free will, that causes us to deviate from the "true" path is the result of engineering flaws, if you will, that God purposely and knowingly instilled in us.

  • @ptica11 Is it a flaw to allow what you create live the life they choose to live? Or is that not perfection? Imagine engineering a robot. Would you want to make the robot a simple slave that only followed your orders? Or would your want to make that robot to live it's own life? I'm not saying we are robots or anything, but I'm trying to say which is the more perfect design.

  • @011Hidalgo

    are you suggesting that mythical god is not omnipotent and omniscient?

    if one is perfect what is the point of creating robots?

    if you create robot and give it autonomy why terrorize this robot with eternal torture should this robot dare to exercise it?

    most perfect design? nothingness

  • @ptica11

    1. I fail to see where you feel I suggested that God is not omnipotent and omniscient, so could you please point that out to me?

    2. Unfortunately, there is no answer that I know of for the second question without speculation.

    3. This is a major misconception. There is no eternal torture/punishment/suffering. Instead of going to Heaven, people simply die. It's really the same idea as for those who don't believe in a God.

  • @011Hidalgo

    3. So I would have to speculate at this point that people are presented to God at the point of death. But if you want an exact answer, I'll have to research it more.

    4. Nothing? Would you want to live for eternity just with your angels?

  • @011Hidalgo

    4. unlike u i have no fear what so ever. there is nothing in idiotic concept of heaven that appeals to me.

  • @011Hidalgo

    1. free will is not compatible with omniscience

    idiotic concept of original sin is not compatible with omnipotence

    3. most of idiotic xtian dogmas are in conflict with what u r stating here

    what is the use of biblical idiot monster god?

    what is the use of believing in god if there is no reward/punishment?

  • @ptica11

    1. You really need to clarify on both of those things.

    3. Yea, I know they would be against, but at this point, that is what I read in the Bible, so I will not speculate from what I read; rather, I will question that concept.

    You know what, then. Let's ignore the Bible for a bit. To believe in a God, to believe in something else, gives hope to people, it's that simple. You may say "That idiotic belief doesn't appeal to me" or

  • @011Hidalgo

    there is no need for any idiotic believes. do you need believe when you have verifiable knowledge?  i think not!

    speculation are just that. why should one waste ones life ass kissing idiotic monsters gods where there is no logical reason for it?

    why did you reject allah?

  • @ptica11

    "Only idiot Christians need that" but no, everyone needs some kind of hope.

    The use of believing in God? Would you find no use in respecting your parents? Or listening to what they teach you? But for those who do believe, the use is in going to Heaven.

  • @011Hidalgo

    i was not referencing any hope plus i do not need any hope which invalidates your assertion.

    Only ppl who deserve respect should get it. lots of parents are assholes and abusers and do not deserve respect but contempt just like this biblical monster god yhwh

  • The engineer cannot hate the car for not performing to par. The architect cannot blame the building for collapsing. They must blame themselves for their fallacious designs. God, if he were moral and fair, cannot consign those to eternal perdition, for defects in his design. That is why I feel Christianity is inherently immoral.

  • utter idiocy

  • well, it didn't.

  • god is a myth the buybull is a fairytale!

  • @billbo1154 God isn't a myth. Love isnt a myth. All the good things in the world (helping the hungry people, freeing sex slaves, etc..... is out of love.)

  • @billbo1154

    God is not a myth and the buybull(?) is a fairytale, but the bible is not a fairytale.

    Everyone has a religion. Some people believe in god other believe in other things.

    Who are you to call somebody's believes a myth?!

  • To the skeptics, just to let u all know, God without people is still God but people without God are nothing. So if despite His efforts to "have you back" (as Satan brainwashed all of you with "ignorance" ans stole u from God's Kingdom which is ur supposed "Home"), u still choose to turn His offer of eternal life down, He can't do anything more than what He already did since u already decide for urself to get doomed. He has nothing to lose. It's the loss of those who disbelieve not God's.

  • @ROCKheir

    better repent and accept ALLAH or ur ass will burn forever and ever in muslim hell

  • really now? at least it's just my ass not my soul that'll be burned in muslim hell forever and ever. lol! xD

  • I honestly think you don't need a perfect record. That is ridiculous. No one has a perfect record.. And on the real this video pisses me off quite a bit. So I guess the little 4 yr olds who lied to mommy about eating a cookie before dinner, then died of natural causes or sickness went to hell? Ok.

  • What amount of bad things can one man do in a life time to deserve eternal suffering?

  • @wxtrim Apparently, a white lie is enough.

  • @wxtrim

  • @wxtrim it's not the fact that we do bad things (sin) that we cant help to deserve eternal suffering.... it's the fact that we have a knowing from right and wrong but choose wrong. But God sent his son to fix that and all we have to do is ask for his forgiveness and he will change our lives... but he's a gentleman and wont unless you want him too =]

  • @StarryLavonne You still didn't answer my question!

  • @wxtrim: Just 1 bad thing. You only have to lie once to be a liar. And murder once to be a murderer. God is perfect.. and like the video said.. Sin cannot enter heaven. If we are contaminated with it.. we need a cure for our disease of sin.. and Jesus is that cure.

  • @Eszlee1 I can't even describe your comment! Pure stupidity doesn't even describe it!

  • uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh NO

  • Great video love it !!!!!!!!!! keep sharing he good news!

  • @goldasmoney What good news?

  • love this video, thanks for uploading ,,soo TRUE! :D

  • i keep repeating it all over again.

  • What about luke warm Christians.Are you saying once saved always saved?I believe in repentance every day and to keep walking in faith.

  • I overheard an old man once at a thrift store, who spoke to a rather mortified woman. He told her that he didn't want to go to heaven and that women in heaven didn't have holes.

    Sounds like a good enough reason to me! :D

  • I agree with this video 100%

  • How does he know this??! Don't tell me he has seen God and we got excluded! Oh man, that ain't right. Until I see God then I will believe this, but for now I have doubts... Asta la vista baby! 2012, more punishment to come and WILL get worse thanks to the government that ARE the terrorist, ugh

  • this is the most unfair and stupid thing iv seen..... this makes me ask, a lot of questions.... this is heights of craziness

  • I would laugh at "Gods" Face and would gladly go to hell.

    Im asshamed for the ppl that... dunno cant think for themselves & need a "deity" to fix/order their "lifes" just live dont ask, live. (doesnt mean you can go and murder shit and stuff.)

  • LMAO this video is so fucking stupid how can anyone believe in this shit?

  • Scaring me to believe some bullshit story so I give the church 10% of what I make.

    Fuck you.

    I live my life how I want.

    Neither Hell nor Heaven nor God exists.

    If you want to tell me they do, show me the proof.

    Exactly, you have NONE.

  • @JessAlexanderD Exactly.

  • @JessAlexanderD Actually alot of Christians have that wrong. In Hebrews it actually says that we are under a new covenant. 10% tithing is an Old testament covenant with the Jews. I totally understand where you are coming from bc there is so many different things that so-called Christians are saying are biblical. I don't go to a church like that because tithing and salvation have nothing to do with each other. A lot of people disagree with what Im saying but it is in the bible.

  • @grownwomanstatus11

    "Actually alot of Christians have that wrong. In Hebrews it actually says that we are under a new covenant."

    since when is mentally ill paul speaking for god?

    what proof do you have? do you know what baseless assertion is?

  • @JessAlexanderD God loves you he doesnt want or need your money. But when you accept him you will want to give your money to helping others see his love. Not necessarily t