@jnr1989 When fighting from the bottom, the fighter looks to break his opponent's posture by pulling his opponent's head downwards towards his own. This means that the top fighter can't sit up straight and drop his weight into his punches. So yes, while the top fighter can swing his fist and make contact with his ribs, he'll have no power in those shots.
Watch very closely. 0:29 he clears the neck and is in chill-dog for a bit. The top guy knows there are threats probably trying to escape. Notice as he lets go of the rubber guard (0:37) he is the same time going for the ninja choke. It's amazingly fast and I had to replay that a few times to see if it's legit.
The top guy should have immediately postured up when he let go of the rubber guard so he could reign down punches instead of keeping his head on the chest.
@RickyTan187 LMAO I somehow doubt that his biceps and forearm was pressed against the dudes thigh. The femoral arteries are in your upper leg. The coratid arteries are in your neck.
@snakerman2612 Its a common way to set up the ninja choke. Yes you have the option for gogoplata/omoplata but usually your opponent will lean in towards you to try and avoid it.....thus if you have your right forearm sitting under there neck as they move in... its a very effective/easy transition to the ninja choke.
he basically used his right forearm to thread the choke on his left side and then used his left arm to push his neck furter into and secure the choking arm, very tricky though
@AcademicusMaximus: Uuum, no it's not. The twister is when you are behind a guy and are cranking the neck. It's more of a pain manoeuver. Trust me I've had it done to me before.
@paolo27th look at it again, an anarchy is also called a power guillotine or a no arm darce/anaconda. its just deep guillotine and your hand locked into the free arms elbow "ditch" for leverage. AiZteidCPF0 <--- punch that in to see one in action.
this ninja choke pins the head under the armpit of free arm. the armpit is whats keeping him from pulling his head out.
@kaneda33 It`s a pretty minor difference. Had Katsumura not done it from guard it`d be exactly the same as Anarchy`s. Are yo sure a different set-up warrants a whole new name?
@paolo27th its not just the setup, its a completely different choke... an anarchy choke is the same as a power guillotine, which is a blood choke. this is more like a neck crank that if you arms are long enough you can turn into a windpipe choke. so yeah it s a completely different move.
@paolo27th On a serious note, the reason why its called a ninja choke is because its setup directly from invisible collar. you just open up the rubber guard and figure four your arm over the back of his head. The hand is already deep across the neck because of the invisible collar so it actually is a specific setup from the rubber guard.
@NeoOsiris19 Seems like splitting hair to me. Thee`s no different name for an armbar whether it`s from mount, guard, side control etc... so I don`t see why should there be one here - unless you actually think this a different choke.
@NeoOsiris19 yes he set it up from invisible collar but its it doesnt have to be. the setup is not what makes the choke different. its the fact the guys head is on the opposite side of your body then a gilllotine. normally it would be under the armpit of the choking arm but its under the opposite side.
@kaneda33 My explanation was the reason why Masakatsu called it the ninja choke, because he baits the guy with invisible collar and then opens up the rubber guard to hip up over his head to lock the figure four. I'm pretty sure thats why he called it the ninja choke, Ueda didn't even see it coming.
Put credit where it is due. Kosen Judo = Origin of BJJ. Rickson said in his book that the japanese held back on teaching and taught only the basics because they were non-japanese and thus had to learn and evolve the art on their own. Helio did improve it, But he did not invent it. ALL of it is still from Kosen Judo.
LAUGH at the fucking internet jj guys saying its a "anarchy choke". that anarchy is alsocalled a "power guillotine" and is not the same. also, even though he set it up with 10th planet moves this was not created with in the 10th planet system. eddie himself said "UNBELIEVABLE NEW CHOKE FROM THE RUBBER GUARD by Katsumura, I'm gonna start drilling this one immediately!!"
Katsumura is a bad boy grappler, but I never thought in a million years that he'd beat Ueda, let alone submit him. Good on him, I hope he has a long reign as champion.
The Japanese crowd is louder than they're known for.
mikeplasse 2 months ago in playlist rubber guard
Amazing.
glenndez420 2 months ago in playlist rubber guard
Fino
ljmrljmr 4 months ago
beautiful! inspiring to all rubber gaurd players.
Jwood7291 7 months ago
SAY NIGHT NIGHT!
SpartanJoe712 7 months ago
One of the best submissions I have ever seen, been watching MMA for 10 years now!
buriedvoid 7 months ago
Isn't that a darce choke? Same thing as ninja choke?
Gavanshir 10 months ago
@Gavanshir no a darce is a little different... a darce keeps the arm in and the arm positioning is a little weird
Xero555000 7 months ago
@0:40, he did the choke but, the other guy could punch him right in the ribs, or not? is exposed?
jnr1989 10 months ago
@jnr1989 yes it could, but the choke is faster and stronger than the punch
CaBeeful 7 months ago
@jnr1989 When fighting from the bottom, the fighter looks to break his opponent's posture by pulling his opponent's head downwards towards his own. This means that the top fighter can't sit up straight and drop his weight into his punches. So yes, while the top fighter can swing his fist and make contact with his ribs, he'll have no power in those shots.
Shaun32887 7 months ago
i heard this guy pulled off a twister
sammyfarhaz 11 months ago
@sammyfarhaz Yes, youtube his name and zst 20.
ricpride 11 months ago
@ricpride thanks alot
sammyfarhaz 11 months ago
That was just beautiful.
Satch7699 11 months ago
Watch very closely. 0:29 he clears the neck and is in chill-dog for a bit. The top guy knows there are threats probably trying to escape. Notice as he lets go of the rubber guard (0:37) he is the same time going for the ninja choke. It's amazingly fast and I had to replay that a few times to see if it's legit.
The top guy should have immediately postured up when he let go of the rubber guard so he could reign down punches instead of keeping his head on the chest.
Brilliant rubber guard.
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HmongYou2Tube 1 year ago
Fucking sweet.
drumtravelfun 1 year ago
Submission of the decade.
obeytheory 1 year ago
great choke!
bjj4jesus1 1 year ago
@RickyTan187 LMAO I somehow doubt that his biceps and forearm was pressed against the dudes thigh. The femoral arteries are in your upper leg. The coratid arteries are in your neck.
Theboxr 1 year ago 2
Holy shit, man...
I only figured out what he did after rewatching it...
tsi2568 1 year ago
dude didn't even see it coming...wow!!
RaiderFunk 1 year ago
WOOOOOOOW!
AKANitario 1 year ago
Is it in essence a guillotine but with the forearm and bicep pressed against the femoral arteries? And than locked from the top like an RNC?
RickyTan187 1 year ago
@RickyTan187 its like a variation of the darce choke from rubber guard then finishes off in dominant position with the full roll.
Kingzylo 1 year ago
For a power guillotine the head would have to be on the other side.
DazarGaidin 1 year ago
should be name reverse RC
kenseisato1989 1 year ago
Sort of a Brabo/ D'arce with no arm in right?
Rustiax999 1 year ago
@snakerman2612 Its a common way to set up the ninja choke. Yes you have the option for gogoplata/omoplata but usually your opponent will lean in towards you to try and avoid it.....thus if you have your right forearm sitting under there neck as they move in... its a very effective/easy transition to the ninja choke.
cravingmetal 1 year ago
how does he go from chill dog to get his arm around the guys neck with his right arm?
rocwiler0 1 year ago
@rocwiler0 hes already cleared the neck with his right arm, so he just needs to hook up the left arm once he releases the leg and hes go it. :)
karimbo92 1 year ago
AWESOME!!!!!!
danhawkhall 1 year ago
incrediblly quick transition
oncepwnd 1 year ago
the gogoplata would be easier for him to do, but NINJA is more badass
snakerman2612 1 year ago
Power Guillotine
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WLCCmma1986 1 year ago
Didnt see that coming! You know, like Ninjas, can't see it coming, you know ... not funny! :-(
Cr0at1anMC 1 year ago 9
@Cr0at1anMC lol
woolfman19 1 year ago
wow, wait.... what?
BrendanKimchi 1 year ago
he basically used his right forearm to thread the choke on his left side and then used his left arm to push his neck furter into and secure the choking arm, very tricky though
FXBthe3rd 1 year ago
He didn't tap, thats heart right there.
SwordXEvil 1 year ago
that choke is better known as a twister
AcademicusMaximus 1 year ago
@AcademicusMaximus Uhhh.. what?
christlicker 1 year ago
@AcademicusMaximus: Uuum, no it's not. The twister is when you are behind a guy and are cranking the neck. It's more of a pain manoeuver. Trust me I've had it done to me before.
BrendanKimchi 1 year ago
@BrendanKimchi: Twister's actually a spinal crank achieved by pulling on the neck.
PizzaParty101 1 year ago
confuse.. haha
bluebunny1405 1 year ago
NINJA!!!
stupidfreakyface 1 year ago
HOLY FUCKING COCK!!! That ninja choke was amazing!!!
cypresspuz 1 year ago
Wow!!! I was sooo fucking shocked at this when i heard about it. Upset of the year so far!!!!! But props to Katsumura, beautiful choke.
JustinThoj 1 year ago
I believe Hideo Tokoro taught him this move. If you watch their fight, Tokoro used the same move to finish Katsumura in ZST.
Vi0LenTMoodSwngs 1 year ago
Sick Choke!
7TelMVP 1 year ago
that looks like a darce choke from the mount.
irbb07 1 year ago
armless darce choke from the chill dawg =)
444jai 1 year ago
Maybe I'm wrong but isn't that a power guillotine?
TestSpecimen42 1 year ago
Was Masakatsu using double bagger?
kikiintimesqar 1 year ago
someone just got OWNED!
dqman199 1 year ago
wow best choke!
nuke1989 1 year ago
nice brabo without hand.
wutangjhn 1 year ago
For fuck sake! This choke`s been around in Japan for years and it`s called Anarchy Choke. No need to make stupid names up.
paolo27th 1 year ago
@paolo27th no moron, ive already addressed this. look at it again, its nothing like an anarchy choke.
kaneda33 1 year ago
@kaneda33 Why? Because it`s from the guard? It`s exactly the same thing, a front-mata-leao, if that makes sense.
paolo27th 1 year ago
@paolo27th look at it again, an anarchy is also called a power guillotine or a no arm darce/anaconda. its just deep guillotine and your hand locked into the free arms elbow "ditch" for leverage. AiZteidCPF0 <--- punch that in to see one in action.
this ninja choke pins the head under the armpit of free arm. the armpit is whats keeping him from pulling his head out.
kaneda33 1 year ago
@kaneda33 It`s a pretty minor difference. Had Katsumura not done it from guard it`d be exactly the same as Anarchy`s. Are yo sure a different set-up warrants a whole new name?
paolo27th 1 year ago
@paolo27th its not just the setup, its a completely different choke... an anarchy choke is the same as a power guillotine, which is a blood choke. this is more like a neck crank that if you arms are long enough you can turn into a windpipe choke. so yeah it s a completely different move.
kaneda33 1 year ago
@kaneda33 Cool, let`s agree to disagree then.
paolo27th 1 year ago
@paolo27th Yeah because you have to be like a ninja to catch the guy!!!
NeoOsiris19 1 year ago
@paolo27th On a serious note, the reason why its called a ninja choke is because its setup directly from invisible collar. you just open up the rubber guard and figure four your arm over the back of his head. The hand is already deep across the neck because of the invisible collar so it actually is a specific setup from the rubber guard.
NeoOsiris19 1 year ago
@NeoOsiris19 Seems like splitting hair to me. Thee`s no different name for an armbar whether it`s from mount, guard, side control etc... so I don`t see why should there be one here - unless you actually think this a different choke.
paolo27th 1 year ago
@NeoOsiris19 yes he set it up from invisible collar but its it doesnt have to be. the setup is not what makes the choke different. its the fact the guys head is on the opposite side of your body then a gilllotine. normally it would be under the armpit of the choking arm but its under the opposite side.
kaneda33 1 year ago
@kaneda33 My explanation was the reason why Masakatsu called it the ninja choke, because he baits the guy with invisible collar and then opens up the rubber guard to hip up over his head to lock the figure four. I'm pretty sure thats why he called it the ninja choke, Ueda didn't even see it coming.
NeoOsiris19 1 year ago
@NeoOsiris19 um, no. he never used the invisible collar. that position is chill dog. dumbass
newerest1 1 year ago
That was a really sweet choke. Props to Shuichiro for clinching the title!
anim3vboi 1 year ago
is that a windpipe choke?
toxictof 1 year ago
its like an invisible guillotine type choke idk...
klion54 1 year ago
Our class worked on it tonight, its a no arm darce....
crroyalflush 1 year ago
holy fuck! I had to watch it twice before i could even fully comprehend what i was watching.
Zttbm 1 year ago
im confused by this...is it just a forarm choke from guard?
warezhouseboys 1 year ago
@warezhouseboys It is a rear naked choke. From the front....
NoProtect 1 year ago
and who said full gaurd iz dead??
drgoodspd 1 year ago
@drgoodspd
unbelievable dude...mount to tap in a blink of an eye.
NK0TB 1 year ago
@drgoodspd cmon really???
HBallar311 1 year ago
@HBallar311 "C'mon really??" what?... Fitch claimed Full Gaurd was dead or dying az did other MMA fighterz..
drgoodspd 1 year ago
@drgoodspd good luck getting this choke from full guard
pyromaniak4u 1 year ago
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trujitsu 1 year ago
yo is'nt this just a coma choke?
trujitsu 1 year ago
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Put credit where it is due. Kosen Judo = Origin of BJJ. Rickson said in his book that the japanese held back on teaching and taught only the basics because they were non-japanese and thus had to learn and evolve the art on their own. Helio did improve it, But he did not invent it. ALL of it is still from Kosen Judo.
watch?v=xjidQQz1yjM&feature=related JIGORO KANO > HIRATA SENSEI
ipyonoti 1 year ago
LAUGH at the fucking internet jj guys saying its a "anarchy choke". that anarchy is alsocalled a "power guillotine" and is not the same. also, even though he set it up with 10th planet moves this was not created with in the 10th planet system. eddie himself said "UNBELIEVABLE NEW CHOKE FROM THE RUBBER GUARD by Katsumura, I'm gonna start drilling this one immediately!!"
kaneda33 1 year ago
WOW!
SchmokinJoe 1 year ago 22
sick choke!!!
stu03ufc 1 year ago
THAT was fuckin' slick.
WhosKhoaHoang 1 year ago
It looks more like a neck crank than an actually choke
BEASTboy003 1 year ago
@BEASTboy003 neck crank? yeah because neck cranks always put you to sleep like that...
farkourf 1 year ago
That was ridiculous LOL
jtchen22 1 year ago
10THPLANET WARRRRR!
One of my favourite chokes from side control :)
AznInvazn69Theory 1 year ago
that guy needs to learn how to smash the rubber guard...WTF is he doing with his right hand? or arm?...bad mistake.
mifune3000 1 year ago
WTF was that.. VERY cool!!
tfwarlord 1 year ago
What the fuck !? I saw this choke for the first time!
dannythejapanesedog 1 year ago
Sweet! I had to watch that twice. The first time was like WHAT?
MagnificoGiganticus 1 year ago
Wow... that was one of the coolest setups I've ever seen. Great stuff.
Komodoensis 1 year ago
Wow incredible choke don't know why i haven't see that before.
ChoWZa 1 year ago
@ChoWZa its more of an advanced choke....especially if its no-gi
AznInvazn69Theory 1 year ago
SIIIIIICK
DRAGULACRUISER 1 year ago
Awesome finish!
leemhayward 1 year ago
That was slick.
stainypoo 1 year ago
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this is bullshit...
Daggerfall40 1 year ago
nice, I've only ever seen that choke from the half and full guard, this dude used the rubber guard and pulled it off from chill dog, insane
uchoo786 1 year ago
Lucky ass Shooto fans. Why can't we get prompt DEEP shows?
lightweightgp 1 year ago
holy shit that was cool
xxstupifyedxx 1 year ago 46
BTW, this is an Anarchy Choke, not a Ninja Choke.
paolo27th 1 year ago
@paolo27th it's 2010 and Limp Bizkit is no longer popular. We can stop using the word "Anarchy" to make things sound cool.
Xaymot 1 year ago
@Xaymot Wtf Limp Biskit?! Lol! No way! It takes the name from Atsushi "Anarchy" Takeuchi. It`s his favourite finishing move.
paolo27th 1 year ago 2
@paolo27th Thank god... shit like that makes me lose faith in MMA sometimes.
Xaymot 1 year ago
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@paolo27th it's 2010 and Limp Bizkit is no longer popular. We can stop using the word "Anarchy" to make things sound cool.
Xaymot 1 year ago
Katsumura is a bad boy grappler, but I never thought in a million years that he'd beat Ueda, let alone submit him. Good on him, I hope he has a long reign as champion.
BlackVelvetStallion 1 year ago
"I AM A NINJA MOTHERFUCKER!"
MrDeathexplosion 1 year ago 2
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that was just srt8 sex....
808csrt4 1 year ago
that was just srt8 sex....
808csrt4 1 year ago
It reminds me of a no-gi loop choke.
MMcKeown 1 year ago
Can wait to try that out
wguthrie32 1 year ago
That was fucking sweet
Theprinceofponeage 1 year ago
Beautiful
d3acon007 1 year ago
ninjyachoke。
juvenilecourt2010 1 year ago
it reminds me of an omoplata but with the arms.
julien5000 1 year ago
sick!
DaeMCe 1 year ago
I couldn`t understand how he set it up what I first saw it. Now I`m wondering, Ueda myst have been sleeping in there.
paolo27th 1 year ago
@paolo27th Me two.I kept rewinding it to catch it.Pretty slick shit.
Mr1erful 1 year ago
gah....looks like a neck crank. crazy sub. love how the fans go nuts at shooto
flemmy 1 year ago
Is there any way you might be able to post the entirety of this bout as well as Toida-Yachi?
kforcer 1 year ago
And that is why you keep your hands off the matt when in rubber guard...
M0RACCA 1 year ago
Holy Shit! I completly wrote this match off, freaking beauty!
tempest8532472 1 year ago
great win for katsumura and zst
over one of the best in mma
tinobar 1 year ago