"prime the pump" !!!!! great more bubble economies then this guy is a dumb ass. I wonder if his idea of job programs is digging holes and filling them back up.
The United States is in Afghanistan to protect a pipelie built from the Caspian Sea with 9 permanent bases and everything else is a lie, and the illegal war in Libya which I do not hear the Liberal websites or mainstream media outlets crying anywhere near the levels of the Iraq war, I can not understand how these oullets do not question the cost but they give this phony a pass. The Gov'ts job is not making jobs but creating an environment for business to prosper
over the last 10 years i had an involuntary impulse to puke whenever Bush jr's face came up on the media.
NOw Obama gives me the same visceral revulsion and can't bear to watch him either.
I don't expect this to change, since i can add and see the writing on the wall which is why I'll never vote again for the rogue imposters who have taken up residence in u.s. structure and perverted it beyond recognition.
Corporate faceless floating malevolence, welcome to america
@deckchairs1 When I see Obama I think of a line from Macbeth "What need we fear who knows it ,when none can call our power to account" 5:1 and when I see Ron Paul I think of George Orwell line " Speaking truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act " I hope everyone wh voted for this man now see's him for what he has always been a morally and ethically challenged man who say anything you want to hear
@mikeoli "and when I see Ron Paul I think of George Orwell"
George Orwell was a democratic socialist.
"who say anything you want to hear"
And Paul is telling you everything you want to hear, with no substance. This man has not passed one piece of meaningful legislation in all the years in office.
The left vs right, libs vs cons, dems vs reps bullshit is hugely to blame for the problems we see today. There are more than 2 options. To be so black and white gives the power/money hungry exactly what they want. When you hate one side you, by default, subscribe to the other. People overlook the failures of their side because they are busy preaching hatred toward the other. The biased media in this country has opened the door for corrupt government and we have allowed it through our ignorance.
Folks on the far left never had any faith in Obama in the first place. Throughout his entire political career, he has been a moderate corporatist. When folks call him a socialist, I want to hand them a political science textbook to show them what a socialist actually is. Obama is a corporatist, not a socialist. His campaign was heavily financed by Wall Street. He voted for TARP as a U.S. Senator, too. Corporate money has completely bought out the entire Republican Party and Democratic Party.
@burnindownthehouse Well that's cause the far left only has Kusinich and Bernie Sanders in congress. He is the most far left president in modermn history, he had the furthest left voting record of any senator. The fringe 2% is not his base, it's liberals. Left-wingers mind you, but not socialists.
Obama is any European standard at least a social democrat.
Anyway, he's screwed. The Republicans aint gonna bduge, they have support in not raising the limit, he will lose re-election by this.
Obama surrounds himself with conservatives and then you're surprised that he has conservative ideas????? LIberals need to STOP covering for obama, stop giving him the benefit of the doubt. Liberals need to call him out and primary him. Obama is a republican puppet, His ideology is conservative. He was mentored by the ultimate republican puppet Joe Lieberman. We all need to do everything in our power to get obama primaried.
Obama is a republican puppet. Why oh why is social security now on the table. Everythings on the for obama. He's doing what he does best making republican ideas his own. He's selling republican ideas for the republicans. Obama is the best thing that every happened to the republican party because they have a fake democrat selling their ideas for them. Obama must be primaried. We must get rid of the undercover republican as soon as possible.
How bout we balance the budget by forcing the congressional representatives (most of whom are millionaires) to give up their precious government healthcare plans that we provide for them
maybe it's time they fend for themselves instead of mooching off the rest of us!
we wouldn't want any of them facing "death panels" would we?
To all on social security Obama cannot guarantee your check but you supported him to the POTUS. SocSec has nothing to do with the deficit ceiling! It is a completely different pot of money. Obama's comments reflect his lack of govt knowledge but his cold heartedness to seniors. He is going to pay La Raza, ACORN, farmers, ethanol, green projects, unions, DC staffers, tattoo-removal, and the National Preschool Anger Management Project. If Your check stops, it is because Obama stopped it.
Excellent, excellent interview! Thank you TRNN and Mr. Ferguson.
This political stage show is a comedy being played by out by expensive high priced, inept non- representative liars – on both sides! I can see the next act coming – it is a magic trick with the comedy!
Pull the troops home and don’t pay the Federal Reserve. That would reduce the debt.
We are anonymous. We are aware of the corruption in the world's governments and their apathy for the human lives because of money.
We are aware of the governments' attempt to cover on the news of the rebellions to keep us as slaves for the current system.
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The RealNews can we please get clarification if US vvill DEFAULT if the debt ceiling is not raised. Theres seems to be real confusion over this, when reading comments . Thank you
Obama now through Executive Order is trying to dis-arm law abiding citizens on all the border states, after supplying mexican cartels and MS-13 with guns (fast and Furious)
This evil piece of shit needs to be removed from office now.
This administration is massively expanding& funding regulatory& the police state; TSA, HLS, EPA, FDAetc. yet 1st responders are being starved of budget. It's to eliminate states rights while centralizing/federalizing control-Hitler did the same
It's about economic starvation so local officials will jump to accept federal grants (with NWO strings) for the environment &social justice& 'our safety'.
It is about handing USA sovereignty over to the UN.
The class war paradigm does not apply to this situation. What we face is the financial elite against the world. Their primary target is the nation state. They are taking control through the manufactured debt that has illegitimately been passed on to whole nations. "Tax the Rich" is the call to bring all wealth under their control acting through "national" politicians. First renounce the debt. Default! Then we can go back to the class war. Otherwise we are all serfs.
@rctube1958 The financial elite have a pretty close affiliation to the political and capital elite. So yeah it is a class war. Though I agree with you that that is probably not the best terminology. We're all trying to get ahead and secure our new found wealth... that is the problem. What we percieve as a class war is merely a symptom of the ideas we hold dear in the West. A system that uses money is at the root of ALL of our problems. Renouncing money is the first step to true solutions.
@rctube1958 No, not renounce money and go back to the barter system I don't think that would work at all. I mean fundamentally do away with trade. The solution to the monetary system is largely a technological one. Machines can grow the food, and redistribute it. Machines can be powered by decentralized renewable energy sources. Abundance and sustainability should be the goal of the machines. Sounds crazy right? I think it is crazier to keep doing the same things and expecting better results.
These no good gangsters have been waging class war for the last forty years. Austerity? I’ve already done several times more work then both of my government worker parents combined. Let the entire miserable corrupt government fail. There is no part of this evil corrupt government that isn’t too badly broken to be saved.
Anyone who thinks we can go into more and more debt to get out of economic dangers is crazy. My wife once said "We can'nt keep saving money, or we will go broke" She is a CPA. What do they teach you people in school?
He starts and continues illegal wars, spearheaded the banker bailouts with McCain in tow as well as a plethora of other gems, and him having "friends" is what makes you not vote for him?
Forget how many terms he'll have, America is finished if liberals can't pull their heads out of their asses.
@cheeseaura Liberals? If you think the FED is full of liberals? This is not a problem with backwards thinking ideals. This is criminal... The Sin of Greed, the crime of Treason and bribe and pay offs. If you have not figured out, American has not lost its way, it was looted from within using Greed, Bribes and thievery. AND if you bought "Made in Communist China" you are a part of the problem. Anyone not Guilty of selling their country out? Anyone?
@btigtime2 Yes, the FED is full of liberals. It's a left-wing progressive insitution. It's the entire idea of liberals, the kinda of mixture of government on one part and government on the other. Liberalism is corporatism to it's very core, which FED is an institution for.
The problem though is, liberals don't even know the implications of their ideology.
The military is very much a conservative instituion.
Greed, bribes and thievery, yes that is governemnt working for you.
@cheeseaura Amen! Raising the debt ceiling, recognizing this debt as legitimate is the path to financial ruin. It can never be repaid. All it will do is reduce us to serfs at the service of global bankers. I am glad you mention McCain for this is liberal and conservative problem.
If the debts are to be defaulted on, one should stand ready and already engage all kinds of transition plans. What is needed in my opinion is: create a new physical currency (Obama is corrupt and can not do this, he would steal too much for the cronies), install a new currency, distribute it at starting positions. All businesses must go to courts to have their ownership straightened out, the land as well, the homes have all to be re-mortgaged. Some less affected areas could deviate (etc etc etc)
one vvould think so. but its not a debate!!! US will not default ifw they dont raise the debt!!!! so whats really a debate?
Us vvont defwaullt, they vvill have to cut the programs like military, and some othewr changes that maybe be cutting too close to some very special interest. may be media falsly linked the debt and default.
@dharmaatdawn The problem seems to be that the debt is unsustainable anyway, therefore the debate is about default anyway, whether it is tied to this debt-ceiling issue or not ? I personally don't care for this debt-ceiling thing either, because the ruling class can and will do whatever the want, with or without debt ceiling changes. If they want to inflate the currency to pay, they may even clandestinly counterfit. It is a public spectacle. The debt is merely a scam. Take the initiative.
One of the Idiots up in DC actually said "We don't want to raise taxes on the people who create the jobs" WHAT! Who might that be? Last I checked all of our Jobs are still going over seas, so the only way to raise taxes on the job creators who be via tariffs. We need to fire all of Government down to the window washers and jail most of them.
It doesn't matter who runs. It doesn't matter who wins. Do you understand? The control of the nation is NOT under the U.S. President. The United States is controlled by a cabal of international mobsters, called banksters. You need look no further than the city of London to discover who is pulling the strings. My advice is for you to STOP PAYING TAXES. Cut the supply of money to a corrupt government.
@dharmaatdawn Look, the income tax system is illegal in the first place. A direct unapropriated income tax is not a law. (Look it up...) Although it is considered the law of the land - OK! My point is this.......how will they be able to jail millions of people for not paying taxes? Seriously. The prision system is already to the max. If people band together by the tens of millions and simply do not comply - the government shuts down. They are the servants. We are the masters.
You bring back troops, and then they're out of work. Then you build factories to create new markets for trade inside the U.S, produce more and consume less foreign products, and give the soldiers new jobs. You produce more which can give you a spot in a global market, thus you save and begin making money from what used to be a deficit. Subsidise the factories until they begin funtioning well, and I could see people being much happier than what they are now. How's that sound?
During the past decade, the American worker & small business owner has been screwed, and the nation has been weakened. After a relatively successful decade of the 1990's, we went downhill fast under Bush, Rove, Cheney, Rummy, & the rest of the NEOCONS--They over-spent, they lied, & they over-reached. The Iraq War was the bleeding disgraceful centerpiece that cost the Repubs the election and ushered in this current ex-law professor, Soft Marxist, Starbucks-Stalinist President. What next in 2012?
Cut interest checks to China and other bond holders, thats how you reduce the debt and use the taxes for the people and not to pay for your wars which pay Haliburton. We also shouldn't be paying for screening technology which Michael Chertoff lobbied to have his company install when he was head of the TSA.
Page 2: Tom, Let's cut the defense budget back to what it was in the year 2000, which will save $400 billion per year. Then, the military can do its basic job: Defend the homeland and keep the sea lanes open, but not police the entire planet and pursue endless oil wars for Big Oil and Big Banks. There is a growing sense of impending civil unrest in this nation, though I do not know what spark will trigger it---but the volatile vapor is building.
@metalreign81 Yeah, I have studied & observed (front line, in factories & on farms) both sides. If you saw the huge industrial base of the USA in 1970, you would cry. As for "free" trade, ask Mexican corn farmers (thousands of them) how NAFTA has impacted them--They have been screwed and ruined by it. Overall, so-called free trade has busted unions, filled Wal-Mart with plastic crap made in Communist Chinese sweatshops, in plants that foul the air & poison the rivers. Let's promote FAIR TRADE!
unions aren't perfect, but they represent a countervailing force to corporate power that could help tip the balance of power back to the lower and middle classes in our society----which is something I think we can both agree on would be a good thing
@metalreign81 Good point. That's what I always point out to people - the fact that the labor movement did not begin because workers were treated well, had great working conditions and decent pay and benefits. With the weaking of the unions over the past fews decades all that has happened is an ever increasing income inequality. At one time the average CEO made 30 times the average worker's salary in their company, now the average CEO makes 300 times the average worker's salary.
@metalreign81 Yes, even though I am conservative, I agree with you, especially when it comes to farm workers, meat packing plant workers, oil refinery & chemical workers, etc. Now, in places like California, the public employee unions (representing many trades but mostly white collar workers) have gone too far with the salary, retirement benefits, retiree medical plans, etc. But your point about a countervailing force is well made. Good Day to You, BBoucharde
Let's tax the rich. Just tax the hell out of them. Fuck it. We don't need jobs from them. We can work for each other... right? Anyone? I mean who cares if the top 1 percent pay more in income tax than the bottom 95 percent combined.
@metalreign81 because regardless if they're limo liberals or baron von dutch eccentric donald trumps, no one has ever been employed by a poor man. Or women. But seriously, we can try that. I mean anythings possible right?
I say tax em' all to death and let god sort em' out! YEAH
spoken like a true "tough as nails" conservative
conservatives do an awful lot of whining considering they are all supposed to be fire and brimstone badasses who spray napalm on people and execute the homeless!
all I hear from them is whine whine whine whine whine Obama did this and Clinton did that and the liberals had sex with my sister
@metalreign81 hahahah, I don't know if you've checked, but I'm not very conservative. Unless you were warring for words for me to rally behind. In that case burn on torch bearer.
@metalreign81 It's really a war of short sited retards. I can't wait for this older generation to just implode under their own stupidity. Then we can all have lolipops and rainbows! Isn't that exciting?
@metalreign81 Yeah Meth ho's live under their own social system, so they can afford to pay each other in pretend meth money. I see meth heads here in LA all day, and the other day I saw a meth head passed out with his shoe off and it was filled with his own shit. Yeah, meth'll get ya.
Thomas Ferguson, You are a smart guy who must be popular among the Ivy League set & coffee houses in Cambridge, but the more I listen to you, the greater becomes the odor of well-intentioned BIG-SPENDING SOCIALIST. Tom, the US government has dumped several trillion borrowed $ into the economy since mid-2008, and now your are calling for more. For starters: (1) End the foreign wars; (2) Bring back 15,000 factories that we have lost; (3) Tax the fatcats at the same level they were taxed in 1985.
Obama needs to dig his heels in and let these nutjobs that want to play chicken with the security of the American economy, do what they feel they have to do. This isn't going to be his liability in 2012. If he can't sell the truth, then what can he sell?
When these austerity measures really kick in------and the plutocracy becomes even more ferocious-----and many old fogeys end up in the gutter without their poopy diapers being changed------then maybe people will finally wake the fuck up and get socially active and take it to the streets like the Greeks are already doing
George Carlin said it best, "People are so entranced by their gizmo's and whatzits that they've been lulled into apathy"
not gonna be holding my breath. Will be busy trying to secure myself a comfortable post in this changing society, if it means moving out the country then well I've done that before, and can do it again no problem. Glad I have an international resume. but this is a trend all over the world. So I will be trying to start a company that hopefully can be profitable, Dunno. We gotta do what we gotta do, and I'm getting my Master's Degree.
Trust busting went the way of the dinosaur back in the 80's when the words "merger" and "aquisition" and "buy-out" became familiarized in the American economic lexicon
barry sotario is the death of Americas and the end of the USA. Israel's Forth Reich puppet as Hitler was Zionist's Third Reich puppet. barry will end up being blamed as Hitler was. The Real enemy is Israel. Wake-up Americans. Wake-up, Wake-the-f-up!
we've spent 3.4 trillion on war since 2001. Can someone explain why exactly an antiwar candidate can't work? I realize you would be facing the entire military industrial complex, but what specifically would happen? I mean if you got the people to listen, somehow, isn't it feasible to get elected?
UNEMPLOYMENT IS NOT 9.2% HAHAHA, USE THE 'REAL' FIGURE, 20%+ AMERICA LAND OF THE WEAK HOME OF THE DEBT SLAVE. SOME BRIGHT FUTURE YOU AMERICAN SO-CALLED CITIZENS ARE MAKING FOR YOUR CHILDREN. HERE IS AN IDEA IMPEACH 'OBOMBA'(the puppet) AND THE REST OF THE CORRUPT POLITICIANS ALONG WITH WALL STREET CROOKS AND BIG CORPORATE PARASITES. GAWD DAMMIT GROW SOME F*CKING BALLS AMERICANS, IF NOT NOW WHEN? AFTER YOUR GETTING SENT TO FEMA CAMPS?
When both sides have valid points means that the problem cannot be solved using conventional means and is supported by logic and philosophy. If we both have opposing views but they both can be applied to the subject with either end having an auspicious outcome means that either path is appropriate. Conversely, this also means that either path can be inappropriate with negative outcomes and this is where we are at now, two paths neither being appropriate. Unconventional means is required.
The US is going to default on the debt one way or another. It's inevitable at this point. They could get out of Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Yemen, Germany, Japan, Korea ect. Then cut useless handouts to the military industry. Repeal the war on drugs. Eliminate departments that aren't doing anything useful. None of this is going to happen and we will sink deeper into debt until they destroy the currency
Have we not "stimulated" the hell out of the economy now? As a matter of fact, if we didn't "stimulate" it, we probably wouldn't hit this 14 trillion dollar debt. Of course we'll probably be sitting at 11.
part of it, another part is a lot of the major companies kinda are holding the gov't hostage in a sense that they want a say, and anything that helps us, and not some asshole shareholder being able to afford a new yacht will be shot down on sight. We have corporatism here, and it is very anti-democratic. China is slowing down due to corruption, in fighting, the capitalist class moving jobs to places like Vietnam, Laos, Sudan, and a few other African countries. Also corporatism.
the gov't in China doesn't want their economy to slow down in fact their GDP has to be at 7% or higher or people start starving and uprisings happen. China is about to lose its stability because people are tired of the CCP there, even members within the party really just use the party to gain wealth soooooo yea China is going to have regime change quite soon.
Look at the Democrat's and the Republican's websites. There is more information available at a Dora the Explorer fun page than you will find on these sites. That is because they are bankrupt of ideas.
@Chaoitcme Ron Paul, We gotta pull our troops back from the war in libya, middle east ect. We gotta fix our own problems before going to other countries.
@qing333 Nope. He won't solve anything if he becomes president. Why? The president is just a figurehead. It's true he would pull the troops home, but domestically speaking he wouldn't stand a snowball's chance in hell unless he caved to the extreme right on certain 'issues'..
@qing333 I don't agree with many of Ron Paul's policies but I think that he is the best choice. I actually believe what he says it the truth. I do not think that he will be pushed forward by the GOP as a candidate though.
@Chaoitcme If people would pay attention and instead of voting the lesser of two evils, vote third party instead, we could get someone with strength of character and actual values instead of just pointless rhetoric - someone like Cynthia McKinney, who was the Green Party Presidential Candidate in '08. But... *sigh* ... it'll probably be your typical election between a Giant Douche and a Turd Sandwich.
@Chaoitcme Only one I could see being a legitimate candidate is Ron Paul, but then again he could be too good to be true. He might be controlled opposition but he still leaps ahead of everyone else.
@Chaoitcme I don't know but i predict that he or she will love Israel a lot lol... And that he or she will probably take the US to war with more enemies of Israel.
oh God I hope not, but at the same time if we get a complete dickhead then maybe people will change, but I think Obama if he wins a second term will start kicking republican ass. I can dream? We really do not have a viable third party, and I am not looking at the Tea Party or in Ron Paul's direction both come from crazy town.
Obama will likely win a second term (I'm not particularly excited about it) because the crop of Republican candidates are about as electable as Carrot-top or Gallagher (He'd probably make a better prez, at least he can smash water melons with a big hammer)
You're right about him though, he's nothing but a "Slick-Willy" Clinton, Republicrat wannabe
@micahgee Obama did everything he set out to do. Not the Obama most people saw on the TV. Obama the politician/corporate shill. Go check out Jeremy Scahill's May '08 predictions... bang on. He wasn't the lone left winger critical of Obama that had accurate predictions... Noam Chomsky was another. When you people vote down there, you are choosing which shill will be reaming your bung holes. Why then do you celebrate that you have the right to vote? It's madness. Revolt! Shut the system down.
@micahgee He didn't against his own party. THIS IS HIS FUCKING PARTY. Democrats are the same as Reublicans except they smile when they kick us in the face.
Cut spending.
vidbid1 7 months ago
How about killing Obamacare .. over a trillion there. The vast majority of americans don't want it anyway!
themunz126 7 months ago
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bboots100 7 months ago
"prime the pump" !!!!! great more bubble economies then this guy is a dumb ass. I wonder if his idea of job programs is digging holes and filling them back up.
ferrozm 7 months ago
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choobie12 7 months ago
lie,cheat,steal...nothing has changed...
438doug 7 months ago
The United States is in Afghanistan to protect a pipelie built from the Caspian Sea with 9 permanent bases and everything else is a lie, and the illegal war in Libya which I do not hear the Liberal websites or mainstream media outlets crying anywhere near the levels of the Iraq war, I can not understand how these oullets do not question the cost but they give this phony a pass. The Gov'ts job is not making jobs but creating an environment for business to prosper
mikeoli 7 months ago
Oh yeah, one more thing.
over the last 10 years i had an involuntary impulse to puke whenever Bush jr's face came up on the media.
NOw Obama gives me the same visceral revulsion and can't bear to watch him either.
I don't expect this to change, since i can add and see the writing on the wall which is why I'll never vote again for the rogue imposters who have taken up residence in u.s. structure and perverted it beyond recognition.
Corporate faceless floating malevolence, welcome to america
deckchairs1 7 months ago
I love it when O gets his serious dark eyes look...all bullshit.
1~they've done this No SS check charade once before, convinced this theater is to show how helpless we are & how all-powerful they are.
2~cuts have already begun as of dec last year. My 23 yr old son is now paying 2/3rds LESS from his wkly chk.
Wall st wants him to pay into THEIR retirem and steal his!
Rightly convinced americans have the memories of gnats, the lies are open and right in front of our eyes.
deckchairs1 7 months ago
@deckchairs1 When I see Obama I think of a line from Macbeth "What need we fear who knows it ,when none can call our power to account" 5:1 and when I see Ron Paul I think of George Orwell line " Speaking truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act " I hope everyone wh voted for this man now see's him for what he has always been a morally and ethically challenged man who say anything you want to hear
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@mikeoli "and when I see Ron Paul I think of George Orwell"
George Orwell was a democratic socialist.
"who say anything you want to hear"
And Paul is telling you everything you want to hear, with no substance. This man has not passed one piece of meaningful legislation in all the years in office.
donnyforte2 7 months ago
The left vs right, libs vs cons, dems vs reps bullshit is hugely to blame for the problems we see today. There are more than 2 options. To be so black and white gives the power/money hungry exactly what they want. When you hate one side you, by default, subscribe to the other. People overlook the failures of their side because they are busy preaching hatred toward the other. The biased media in this country has opened the door for corrupt government and we have allowed it through our ignorance.
thekswervedirt 7 months ago
Austerity???? Bring your damn army home. PROBLEM SOLVED. tHERE IS NO PROBLEM FOLKS. dON'T FALL FOR IT AGAIN.
landlogger 7 months ago 3
They are not your "friends" PO.
SandCmpbll 7 months ago
Folks on the far left never had any faith in Obama in the first place. Throughout his entire political career, he has been a moderate corporatist. When folks call him a socialist, I want to hand them a political science textbook to show them what a socialist actually is. Obama is a corporatist, not a socialist. His campaign was heavily financed by Wall Street. He voted for TARP as a U.S. Senator, too. Corporate money has completely bought out the entire Republican Party and Democratic Party.
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@burnindownthehouse Well that's cause the far left only has Kusinich and Bernie Sanders in congress. He is the most far left president in modermn history, he had the furthest left voting record of any senator. The fringe 2% is not his base, it's liberals. Left-wingers mind you, but not socialists.
Obama is any European standard at least a social democrat.
Anyway, he's screwed. The Republicans aint gonna bduge, they have support in not raising the limit, he will lose re-election by this.
Visfen 7 months ago
@burnindownthehouse AMEN BROTHER!
tlfettled 3 months ago
Obama surrounds himself with conservatives and then you're surprised that he has conservative ideas????? LIberals need to STOP covering for obama, stop giving him the benefit of the doubt. Liberals need to call him out and primary him. Obama is a republican puppet, His ideology is conservative. He was mentored by the ultimate republican puppet Joe Lieberman. We all need to do everything in our power to get obama primaried.
Drknoble 7 months ago
Obama is a republican puppet. Why oh why is social security now on the table. Everythings on the for obama. He's doing what he does best making republican ideas his own. He's selling republican ideas for the republicans. Obama is the best thing that every happened to the republican party because they have a fake democrat selling their ideas for them. Obama must be primaried. We must get rid of the undercover republican as soon as possible.
Drknoble 7 months ago
It's not your way ,It's not my way It's the K. --- mart way!
phfrankh 7 months ago
How bout we balance the budget by forcing the congressional representatives (most of whom are millionaires) to give up their precious government healthcare plans that we provide for them
maybe it's time they fend for themselves instead of mooching off the rest of us!
we wouldn't want any of them facing "death panels" would we?
metalreign81 7 months ago
To all on social security Obama cannot guarantee your check but you supported him to the POTUS. SocSec has nothing to do with the deficit ceiling! It is a completely different pot of money. Obama's comments reflect his lack of govt knowledge but his cold heartedness to seniors. He is going to pay La Raza, ACORN, farmers, ethanol, green projects, unions, DC staffers, tattoo-removal, and the National Preschool Anger Management Project. If Your check stops, it is because Obama stopped it.
dkkght46 7 months ago
@dkkght46
Good it's about time those seniors pick themselves up by their proverbial bootstraps and do something other then whi about the goverment
awww poor republican seniors
boo hoo hoo
If they want to complain they can thank Israel for the billions we send them every year to perpetrate genocide
metalreign81 7 months ago
@metalreign81
whine
metalreign81 7 months ago
Excellent, excellent interview! Thank you TRNN and Mr. Ferguson.
This political stage show is a comedy being played by out by expensive high priced, inept non- representative liars – on both sides! I can see the next act coming – it is a magic trick with the comedy!
Pull the troops home and don’t pay the Federal Reserve. That would reduce the debt.
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anunitunibiru 7 months ago
He has spends and spends and borrows money for Van Jones eco-cons! And Trillions later? .....he wants us to begin "austerity"?
memama2 7 months ago
i know there are way more then 301 views some one is playing around with the view counter !
CazyDayz 7 months ago
Look up Richard D. Wolff's website to hear him explain what's going on.
rdwolff.com/content/economic-update-on-wbai-july-9
GoDrex 7 months ago
@GoDrex Thanks Richard is awesome.
Skeptic87 7 months ago
The RealNews can we please get clarification if US vvill DEFAULT if the debt ceiling is not raised. Theres seems to be real confusion over this, when reading comments . Thank you
dharmaatdawn 7 months ago
Raising the debt ceiling is a F'n joke. Give me more credit because I ran out of credit.
The IMF is just waiting to hit the US just like the EU countries.
Stop the illegal wars and Impeach Obama.
sciflyer67 7 months ago
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bigge525 7 months ago
ANYONE ELSE FIND IT DISTURBING THAT "aLMIGHTY uNCLE sAM" IS SCARED TO DEATH OF bIG pHARMA??
MrLesWhite 7 months ago
Actually, I find the hand basket we're riding to hell quite comfortable. Yeah corporate politics!!!
Joeybagadounuts08 7 months ago
Obama now through Executive Order is trying to dis-arm law abiding citizens on all the border states, after supplying mexican cartels and MS-13 with guns (fast and Furious)
This evil piece of shit needs to be removed from office now.
MrGAB4444 7 months ago
This administration is massively expanding& funding regulatory& the police state; TSA, HLS, EPA, FDAetc. yet 1st responders are being starved of budget. It's to eliminate states rights while centralizing/federalizing control-Hitler did the same
It's about economic starvation so local officials will jump to accept federal grants (with NWO strings) for the environment &social justice& 'our safety'.
It is about handing USA sovereignty over to the UN.
Debt ceiling=BS
This is about Agenda 21
MrGAB4444 7 months ago
@MrGAB4444 Agreed. It's about the war footing.
barkulator 7 months ago
disaster.. Ho the f@@ did e get here
dharmaatdawn 7 months ago
The class war paradigm does not apply to this situation. What we face is the financial elite against the world. Their primary target is the nation state. They are taking control through the manufactured debt that has illegitimately been passed on to whole nations. "Tax the Rich" is the call to bring all wealth under their control acting through "national" politicians. First renounce the debt. Default! Then we can go back to the class war. Otherwise we are all serfs.
rctube1958 7 months ago
@rctube1958 The financial elite have a pretty close affiliation to the political and capital elite. So yeah it is a class war. Though I agree with you that that is probably not the best terminology. We're all trying to get ahead and secure our new found wealth... that is the problem. What we percieve as a class war is merely a symptom of the ideas we hold dear in the West. A system that uses money is at the root of ALL of our problems. Renouncing money is the first step to true solutions.
elbowbiter1 7 months ago
@elbowbiter1 Renounce money and use what for trade?
rctube1958 7 months ago
@rctube1958 No, not renounce money and go back to the barter system I don't think that would work at all. I mean fundamentally do away with trade. The solution to the monetary system is largely a technological one. Machines can grow the food, and redistribute it. Machines can be powered by decentralized renewable energy sources. Abundance and sustainability should be the goal of the machines. Sounds crazy right? I think it is crazier to keep doing the same things and expecting better results.
elbowbiter1 7 months ago
These no good gangsters have been waging class war for the last forty years. Austerity? I’ve already done several times more work then both of my government worker parents combined. Let the entire miserable corrupt government fail. There is no part of this evil corrupt government that isn’t too badly broken to be saved.
workwillfreeyou 7 months ago
Get Real ! Obama is an Uncle Tom.
Mattyqwertymeme 7 months ago
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Anyone who thinks we can go into more and more debt to get out of economic dangers is crazy. My wife once said "We can'nt keep saving money, or we will go broke" She is a CPA. What do they teach you people in school?
btigtime2 7 months ago
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btigtime2 7 months ago
i wonder why obama doesn't call on the gop on the debt debate
if they go forward with it it will be a political suicide
StraussBR 7 months ago
You liberals are hilarious:
He starts and continues illegal wars, spearheaded the banker bailouts with McCain in tow as well as a plethora of other gems, and him having "friends" is what makes you not vote for him?
Forget how many terms he'll have, America is finished if liberals can't pull their heads out of their asses.
DON'T RAISE THE DEBT CEILING!
cheeseaura 7 months ago
@cheeseaura Liberals? If you think the FED is full of liberals? This is not a problem with backwards thinking ideals. This is criminal... The Sin of Greed, the crime of Treason and bribe and pay offs. If you have not figured out, American has not lost its way, it was looted from within using Greed, Bribes and thievery. AND if you bought "Made in Communist China" you are a part of the problem. Anyone not Guilty of selling their country out? Anyone?
btigtime2 7 months ago 5
@btigtime2 Yes, the FED is full of liberals. It's a left-wing progressive insitution. It's the entire idea of liberals, the kinda of mixture of government on one part and government on the other. Liberalism is corporatism to it's very core, which FED is an institution for.
The problem though is, liberals don't even know the implications of their ideology.
The military is very much a conservative instituion.
Greed, bribes and thievery, yes that is governemnt working for you.
Visfen 7 months ago
@cheeseaura Amen! Raising the debt ceiling, recognizing this debt as legitimate is the path to financial ruin. It can never be repaid. All it will do is reduce us to serfs at the service of global bankers. I am glad you mention McCain for this is liberal and conservative problem.
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StraussBR 7 months ago
If the debts are to be defaulted on, one should stand ready and already engage all kinds of transition plans. What is needed in my opinion is: create a new physical currency (Obama is corrupt and can not do this, he would steal too much for the cronies), install a new currency, distribute it at starting positions. All businesses must go to courts to have their ownership straightened out, the land as well, the homes have all to be re-mortgaged. Some less affected areas could deviate (etc etc etc)
wwwjhwhbe 7 months ago
@wwwjhwhbe
if e not gonna raise the debt ceiling. US ill not default!!!! check it
dharmaatdawn 7 months ago
@dharmaatdawn I know anything can happen, but defaulting is essentially the debate, isn't it ?
wwwjhwhbe 7 months ago
@wwwjhwhbe
one vvould think so. but its not a debate!!! US will not default ifw they dont raise the debt!!!! so whats really a debate?
Us vvont defwaullt, they vvill have to cut the programs like military, and some othewr changes that maybe be cutting too close to some very special interest. may be media falsly linked the debt and default.
dharmaatdawn 7 months ago
@dharmaatdawn The problem seems to be that the debt is unsustainable anyway, therefore the debate is about default anyway, whether it is tied to this debt-ceiling issue or not ? I personally don't care for this debt-ceiling thing either, because the ruling class can and will do whatever the want, with or without debt ceiling changes. If they want to inflate the currency to pay, they may even clandestinly counterfit. It is a public spectacle. The debt is merely a scam. Take the initiative.
wwwjhwhbe 7 months ago
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One of the Idiots up in DC actually said "We don't want to raise taxes on the people who create the jobs" WHAT! Who might that be? Last I checked all of our Jobs are still going over seas, so the only way to raise taxes on the job creators who be via tariffs. We need to fire all of Government down to the window washers and jail most of them.
btigtime2 7 months ago
stop voting and start social movements that both parties will have to bow down to.
why are the national debates run by the tv stations.
to hell with the voting system. we already know its going to be romney against obama. yawn!!!
a huge citizens grouip with 50 million signed members will get you out of the wars and all the rest of the bullshit. no more left/right bullshit.
how about MORAL government.
zebb1111 7 months ago
He has "Friend's"?
hegigwa7 7 months ago
It doesn't matter who runs. It doesn't matter who wins. Do you understand? The control of the nation is NOT under the U.S. President. The United States is controlled by a cabal of international mobsters, called banksters. You need look no further than the city of London to discover who is pulling the strings. My advice is for you to STOP PAYING TAXES. Cut the supply of money to a corrupt government.
clearasvodka 7 months ago
@clearasvodka
stop paying taxes ill get u jailed. so i dk if its effective solution. or all of u assets can be taken( home for exsmp)
being in jail doesnt really solve anything. any other proposals?
dharmaatdawn 7 months ago
@dharmaatdawn Look, the income tax system is illegal in the first place. A direct unapropriated income tax is not a law. (Look it up...) Although it is considered the law of the land - OK! My point is this.......how will they be able to jail millions of people for not paying taxes? Seriously. The prision system is already to the max. If people band together by the tens of millions and simply do not comply - the government shuts down. They are the servants. We are the masters.
clearasvodka 7 months ago
You bring back troops, and then they're out of work. Then you build factories to create new markets for trade inside the U.S, produce more and consume less foreign products, and give the soldiers new jobs. You produce more which can give you a spot in a global market, thus you save and begin making money from what used to be a deficit. Subsidise the factories until they begin funtioning well, and I could see people being much happier than what they are now. How's that sound?
Kan2209 7 months ago
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~Ron Paul 2012~
SPAGHETTIMONSTER1 7 months ago
interview Dr.RON PAUL sometime!
appumathew 7 months ago
"...taking on their sacred cows" 0:56
wtf?!
reptilianism420 7 months ago
OBAMA IS A DANGER FOR THE WHOLE WORLDS FUTURE
TheDenker64 7 months ago
So long as America is a "dicatorship of the capitalists" (rather than labor), nothing will change.
RemoveYourChains 7 months ago
They said they are "winding down" the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, so how can they justify a huge military budget increase?
Mahoivlich 7 months ago
During the past decade, the American worker & small business owner has been screwed, and the nation has been weakened. After a relatively successful decade of the 1990's, we went downhill fast under Bush, Rove, Cheney, Rummy, & the rest of the NEOCONS--They over-spent, they lied, & they over-reached. The Iraq War was the bleeding disgraceful centerpiece that cost the Repubs the election and ushered in this current ex-law professor, Soft Marxist, Starbucks-Stalinist President. What next in 2012?
bboucharde 7 months ago
Cut interest checks to China and other bond holders, thats how you reduce the debt and use the taxes for the people and not to pay for your wars which pay Haliburton. We also shouldn't be paying for screening technology which Michael Chertoff lobbied to have his company install when he was head of the TSA.
screwopenborders 7 months ago
Page 2: Tom, Let's cut the defense budget back to what it was in the year 2000, which will save $400 billion per year. Then, the military can do its basic job: Defend the homeland and keep the sea lanes open, but not police the entire planet and pursue endless oil wars for Big Oil and Big Banks. There is a growing sense of impending civil unrest in this nation, though I do not know what spark will trigger it---but the volatile vapor is building.
bboucharde 7 months ago
@bboucharde
We should also end these disasterous "free-trade" policies that are destroying American production and labor!
metalreign81 7 months ago
@metalreign81 Yeah, I have studied & observed (front line, in factories & on farms) both sides. If you saw the huge industrial base of the USA in 1970, you would cry. As for "free" trade, ask Mexican corn farmers (thousands of them) how NAFTA has impacted them--They have been screwed and ruined by it. Overall, so-called free trade has busted unions, filled Wal-Mart with plastic crap made in Communist Chinese sweatshops, in plants that foul the air & poison the rivers. Let's promote FAIR TRADE!
bboucharde 7 months ago 2
@bboucharde
I agree with you completely
unions aren't perfect, but they represent a countervailing force to corporate power that could help tip the balance of power back to the lower and middle classes in our society----which is something I think we can both agree on would be a good thing
metalreign81 7 months ago
@metalreign81 Good point. That's what I always point out to people - the fact that the labor movement did not begin because workers were treated well, had great working conditions and decent pay and benefits. With the weaking of the unions over the past fews decades all that has happened is an ever increasing income inequality. At one time the average CEO made 30 times the average worker's salary in their company, now the average CEO makes 300 times the average worker's salary.
xexixk 7 months ago
@metalreign81 Yes, even though I am conservative, I agree with you, especially when it comes to farm workers, meat packing plant workers, oil refinery & chemical workers, etc. Now, in places like California, the public employee unions (representing many trades but mostly white collar workers) have gone too far with the salary, retirement benefits, retiree medical plans, etc. But your point about a countervailing force is well made. Good Day to You, BBoucharde
bboucharde 7 months ago
Let's tax the rich. Just tax the hell out of them. Fuck it. We don't need jobs from them. We can work for each other... right? Anyone? I mean who cares if the top 1 percent pay more in income tax than the bottom 95 percent combined.
sonnybrown 7 months ago
@sonnybrown
I've always wondered why lower-class republicans/conservatives are worried about raising taxes on the rich------
These common folk seem worried about "soak the rich" tax codes yet, oddly enough,
they assert that the rich are a bunch of limosine liberals who are out of touch with small-town common folk who watch Nascar and shop at Wal-Mart.
Why are they so worried about taxing limosine liberals like George Soros and Al Gore?
metalreign81 7 months ago
@metalreign81 because regardless if they're limo liberals or baron von dutch eccentric donald trumps, no one has ever been employed by a poor man. Or women. But seriously, we can try that. I mean anythings possible right?
sonnybrown 7 months ago
@sonnybrown
the crack ho down the street employs her children as sex-shop workers and she's as poor as dirt
metalreign81 7 months ago
@sonnybrown
I say tax em' all to death and let god sort em' out! YEAH
spoken like a true "tough as nails" conservative
conservatives do an awful lot of whining considering they are all supposed to be fire and brimstone badasses who spray napalm on people and execute the homeless!
all I hear from them is whine whine whine whine whine Obama did this and Clinton did that and the liberals had sex with my sister
jeez grow a pair you guys! CMON'!
metalreign81 7 months ago
@metalreign81 hahahah, I don't know if you've checked, but I'm not very conservative. Unless you were warring for words for me to rally behind. In that case burn on torch bearer.
sonnybrown 7 months ago
@sonnybrown
Neither am I-----
I just like to joke around
with both righties and lefties,
but righties are usually more fun to pick on
especially the hilarious contradiction in modern conservativism-------the social darwinist faction is going to war with the holier than thou faction
it's all quite delicious
metalreign81 7 months ago
@metalreign81 It's really a war of short sited retards. I can't wait for this older generation to just implode under their own stupidity. Then we can all have lolipops and rainbows! Isn't that exciting?
sonnybrown 7 months ago
@sonnybrown
I have front row seats to the freak show
metalreign81 7 months ago
@sonnybrown
you said that no one has ever been employed by a poor person right
I beg to differ
the crack ho down the street from me is currently employing her children as sex shop workers
does that count?
hahahahahahhahahahaha
metalreign81 7 months ago
@metalreign81 I stand corrected
sonnybrown 7 months ago
@sonnybrown
just kidding about the crack ho
she's a meth ho
metalreign81 7 months ago
@metalreign81 Yeah Meth ho's live under their own social system, so they can afford to pay each other in pretend meth money. I see meth heads here in LA all day, and the other day I saw a meth head passed out with his shoe off and it was filled with his own shit. Yeah, meth'll get ya.
sonnybrown 7 months ago
Thomas Ferguson, You are a smart guy who must be popular among the Ivy League set & coffee houses in Cambridge, but the more I listen to you, the greater becomes the odor of well-intentioned BIG-SPENDING SOCIALIST. Tom, the US government has dumped several trillion borrowed $ into the economy since mid-2008, and now your are calling for more. For starters: (1) End the foreign wars; (2) Bring back 15,000 factories that we have lost; (3) Tax the fatcats at the same level they were taxed in 1985.
bboucharde 7 months ago
THE REAL QUESTION IS
'WHO WILL LOSE THE MOST IF THERE ARE GOVERNMENT DEFAULTS?
A: JUST LIKE IT COULD HAVE BEEN IN 2008.......THE BANKSTERS AND THE RICH!
LET'S DEFAULT! WHOOPIE!
sadly, it won't happen, Obama will cave in, the GOP will win
: (
topthickproducer 7 months ago
Austerity is coming to America soon--Prepare, --The handwriting (Reality) is on the wall
TheMellowout 7 months ago
Obama needs to dig his heels in and let these nutjobs that want to play chicken with the security of the American economy, do what they feel they have to do. This isn't going to be his liability in 2012. If he can't sell the truth, then what can he sell?
sandite26 7 months ago
When these austerity measures really kick in------and the plutocracy becomes even more ferocious-----and many old fogeys end up in the gutter without their poopy diapers being changed------then maybe people will finally wake the fuck up and get socially active and take it to the streets like the Greeks are already doing
George Carlin said it best, "People are so entranced by their gizmo's and whatzits that they've been lulled into apathy"
metalreign81 7 months ago
@metalreign81
not gonna be holding my breath. Will be busy trying to secure myself a comfortable post in this changing society, if it means moving out the country then well I've done that before, and can do it again no problem. Glad I have an international resume. but this is a trend all over the world. So I will be trying to start a company that hopefully can be profitable, Dunno. We gotta do what we gotta do, and I'm getting my Master's Degree.
lordblazer 7 months ago
@lordblazer
I wish you luck in your pursuits----
Hopefully people will wake up, but I am pessimistic about the chances for a real democratic revival
metalreign81 7 months ago
Where the fuck is someone like Teddy when you need him...
mrx0066600 7 months ago
@mrx0066600
Teddy who?
Teddy Kennedy?
or ol' bull goose Teddy Roosevelt?
metalreign81 7 months ago
@metalreign81
Teddy Roosevelt
The trust buster.
mrx0066600 7 months ago
@mrx0066600
Trust busting went the way of the dinosaur back in the 80's when the words "merger" and "aquisition" and "buy-out" became familiarized in the American economic lexicon
metalreign81 7 months ago
@mrx0066600
BULLY!
metalreign81 7 months ago
@metalreign81
yes a bull to.
mrx0066600 7 months ago
I meant bull moose
I was thinking of bull goose McMurphy from "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest"
metalreign81 7 months ago
These republicans are a bit quizzical to me----
on the one hand they want massive cuts to "entitlement" programs like Social Security/Medicare/Medicaid etc. etc.
on the other hand they want to arm every man, woman, and child with an automatic weapon
if I were a republican I would probably dress for work like John McCain did when he toured Iraq------in Kevlar, surrounded by armed soldiers
metalreign81 7 months ago
What's with the fuel price comment at the end? Actually, lower GDP will put downward pressure on fuel prices
bfq3000 7 months ago
barry sotario is the death of Americas and the end of the USA. Israel's Forth Reich puppet as Hitler was Zionist's Third Reich puppet. barry will end up being blamed as Hitler was. The Real enemy is Israel. Wake-up Americans. Wake-up, Wake-the-f-up!
HeavyMetalPedal 7 months ago
Who will bet with me that they will raise the debt ceiling and cut the entitlements at the same time?
slonamu 7 months ago
he must have FiOs
eunuchcommunity 7 months ago
Scary world we live in these days.
ZSwierczynski 7 months ago
everyboady is on the way down ...that sentence alone odd to make you think
lllraverslll 7 months ago
we've spent 3.4 trillion on war since 2001. Can someone explain why exactly an antiwar candidate can't work? I realize you would be facing the entire military industrial complex, but what specifically would happen? I mean if you got the people to listen, somehow, isn't it feasible to get elected?
KillerWhaleSFl 7 months ago
UNEMPLOYMENT IS NOT 9.2% HAHAHA, USE THE 'REAL' FIGURE, 20%+ AMERICA LAND OF THE WEAK HOME OF THE DEBT SLAVE. SOME BRIGHT FUTURE YOU AMERICAN SO-CALLED CITIZENS ARE MAKING FOR YOUR CHILDREN. HERE IS AN IDEA IMPEACH 'OBOMBA'(the puppet) AND THE REST OF THE CORRUPT POLITICIANS ALONG WITH WALL STREET CROOKS AND BIG CORPORATE PARASITES. GAWD DAMMIT GROW SOME F*CKING BALLS AMERICANS, IF NOT NOW WHEN? AFTER YOUR GETTING SENT TO FEMA CAMPS?
ccadd30 7 months ago
When both sides have valid points means that the problem cannot be solved using conventional means and is supported by logic and philosophy. If we both have opposing views but they both can be applied to the subject with either end having an auspicious outcome means that either path is appropriate. Conversely, this also means that either path can be inappropriate with negative outcomes and this is where we are at now, two paths neither being appropriate. Unconventional means is required.
theoriginalprisonerX 7 months ago
The US is going to default on the debt one way or another. It's inevitable at this point. They could get out of Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Yemen, Germany, Japan, Korea ect. Then cut useless handouts to the military industry. Repeal the war on drugs. Eliminate departments that aren't doing anything useful. None of this is going to happen and we will sink deeper into debt until they destroy the currency
mjbarrowful 7 months ago
Have we not "stimulated" the hell out of the economy now? As a matter of fact, if we didn't "stimulate" it, we probably wouldn't hit this 14 trillion dollar debt. Of course we'll probably be sitting at 11.
zephyrsimon 7 months ago
Why is the internet guy's voice sounds clearer than paul's? Fix it Real New.s
zephyrsimon 7 months ago
China's slowing down because the government wants it to slow down.
US is slowing down because all the companies are going to developing countries.
HUGE difference.
Ristar85 7 months ago
@Ristar85
part of it, another part is a lot of the major companies kinda are holding the gov't hostage in a sense that they want a say, and anything that helps us, and not some asshole shareholder being able to afford a new yacht will be shot down on sight. We have corporatism here, and it is very anti-democratic. China is slowing down due to corruption, in fighting, the capitalist class moving jobs to places like Vietnam, Laos, Sudan, and a few other African countries. Also corporatism.
lordblazer 7 months ago
@Ristar85
the gov't in China doesn't want their economy to slow down in fact their GDP has to be at 7% or higher or people start starving and uprisings happen. China is about to lose its stability because people are tired of the CCP there, even members within the party really just use the party to gain wealth soooooo yea China is going to have regime change quite soon.
lordblazer 7 months ago
@lordblazer
China is slowing down because the gov keep raising the reserve requirement, this cause people and corporations to be unable to get more loans.
there already are uprisings. there were protests about wages and the local governments in China had to raise the minimum wage.
yes, China is corrupted and people just want money, just like the USA.
jobs are going elsewhere. however, China is a huge place with a huge hard-working population that's jobless and will do anything for $.
Ristar85 7 months ago
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GohanMH1 7 months ago
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GohanMH1 7 months ago
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Look at the Democrat's and the Republican's websites. There is more information available at a Dora the Explorer fun page than you will find on these sites. That is because they are bankrupt of ideas.
UNIVERSITYHI 7 months ago
've known hamsters who could do a better job
Fuzzy too
IronicallyVague 7 months ago
@IronicallyVague ^_^
juanmora19910209 7 months ago
I have never seen so much diarrhea come out of a presidents mouth before.
-TEW
theeastwatch 7 months ago
Obama is a continuation of Bush but on speed!
666katch 7 months ago
Obama is going to be a 1 term president.
He threw his own party under the bus. He calls the GOP his "friends" and always offers to preemptively cave in to "take on his own party".
micahgee 7 months ago 17
@micahgee Who do you think will win the 2012 election? There really are a bunch of horrible presidential choices.
Chaoitcme 7 months ago 14
@Chaoitcme Ron Paul, We gotta pull our troops back from the war in libya, middle east ect. We gotta fix our own problems before going to other countries.
qing333 7 months ago
@qing333 Nope. He won't solve anything if he becomes president. Why? The president is just a figurehead. It's true he would pull the troops home, but domestically speaking he wouldn't stand a snowball's chance in hell unless he caved to the extreme right on certain 'issues'..
Homer177 7 months ago
@qing333 I don't agree with many of Ron Paul's policies but I think that he is the best choice. I actually believe what he says it the truth. I do not think that he will be pushed forward by the GOP as a candidate though.
Chaoitcme 7 months ago
@Chaoitcme
He's a hypocrite on earmarks
metalreign81 7 months ago
@Chaoitcme If people would pay attention and instead of voting the lesser of two evils, vote third party instead, we could get someone with strength of character and actual values instead of just pointless rhetoric - someone like Cynthia McKinney, who was the Green Party Presidential Candidate in '08. But... *sigh* ... it'll probably be your typical election between a Giant Douche and a Turd Sandwich.
mexcurmudgeon 7 months ago
@Chaoitcme Only one I could see being a legitimate candidate is Ron Paul, but then again he could be too good to be true. He might be controlled opposition but he still leaps ahead of everyone else.
screwopenborders 7 months ago
@Chaoitcme I don't know but i predict that he or she will love Israel a lot lol... And that he or she will probably take the US to war with more enemies of Israel.
MustacheVerra 7 months ago
@Chaoitcme
I already have my bags packed for if Ron Paul doesn't win.
Iammram 7 months ago
@Chaoitcme
Thats why it's Ron Paul or nothing...
TheCORE87 7 months ago
@micahgee
oh God I hope not, but at the same time if we get a complete dickhead then maybe people will change, but I think Obama if he wins a second term will start kicking republican ass. I can dream? We really do not have a viable third party, and I am not looking at the Tea Party or in Ron Paul's direction both come from crazy town.
lordblazer 7 months ago
@micahgee
Obama will likely win a second term (I'm not particularly excited about it) because the crop of Republican candidates are about as electable as Carrot-top or Gallagher (He'd probably make a better prez, at least he can smash water melons with a big hammer)
You're right about him though, he's nothing but a "Slick-Willy" Clinton, Republicrat wannabe
metalreign81 7 months ago
@micahgee Obama did everything he set out to do. Not the Obama most people saw on the TV. Obama the politician/corporate shill. Go check out Jeremy Scahill's May '08 predictions... bang on. He wasn't the lone left winger critical of Obama that had accurate predictions... Noam Chomsky was another. When you people vote down there, you are choosing which shill will be reaming your bung holes. Why then do you celebrate that you have the right to vote? It's madness. Revolt! Shut the system down.
elbowbiter1 7 months ago
@micahgee He didn't against his own party. THIS IS HIS FUCKING PARTY. Democrats are the same as Reublicans except they smile when they kick us in the face.
thenewmiLONNIEum 7 months ago
@micahgee sheeesh! cmon man... they're all the same...they all belong to the same club.. and you and I arent in it... its all a charade
balbahut0g 7 months ago
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MadXMax187 7 months ago