The trap that you're referring to is very similar to Legal's pseudo-sacrifice. There's a book called The Art of Checkmate by Georges Renaud and Victor Kahn that features some very brilliant games in which this kind of pseudo sacrifices are employed.
yeah , i am a frequent queens gambit player and i am aware of this position but i dont like it. i wouldnt play BG5 because good player usually will respond C6 or Be7. black will start to develop a strong attack on my queens side.
yo at 4:55 you should have movedknight to b7,Nb7, that way you would be sacrificing you knight then taking his rook with your rook putting him in check, then taking his other rook on h8. if he moved his rook you would have still gained a piece, you didnt need to defend you king because it was already being defended by your rook. but whatever..good play.
i wouldnt call it "discovering a trap" i would call it over-looking a vital development, and the consequent results."
Queens gambit is my fav. When moves the e7 pawn, you should have played a3 immediately.
you've discovered one "complication" if you dont. There others, depending on what defense black uses... I always smile when i get to that point, its amusing seeing the look on black face when he/she wishes that pawn werent on a3. :)))
i found a pretty cool one playing today check it out. 1.d4e62.e4d53.e5c54.c3Nc65.Nf3Qb66.Bd3cxd47.Nxd4Nxd48.cxd4Qxd49.Bb5+Bd710.Qxd4Bxb511.Nc3a612.Nxb5axb513.O-ORb814.Qb6 he resigned after that
After exchanging the bishops on c4 white is - in my opinion - not only better: after simple move Kd2 the black Knight on c1 has no field to escape and so white wins the game easily. Am I wrong?
That trap is called Elephant trap. The actual life goes that bishop checks and queen blocks check then king takes bishop and is up a piece and there is no way for white to defend his queen taken down.
When he pushes the pawn to b5, knight to b4 at the 5minute mark would put a lot of pressure on his rooks. You'd get both rooks for the price of the knight, if he takes it with his a7 pawn.
At 5:00 you could have gone up a piece again by playing the knight to B7 attacking the rook and then either taking it or forcing it to move and then taking the pawn with your rook moving it to the 7 rank.
That first trap isn't very well known, even among longtime Queen's Gambit players. I beat an expert level player with it in a 60 minute timed game. Very useful
its not a false assumtion. e6 is considered better than nf6 because he prefers a pawn at d5 where it influences the center more. its a small advantage but many small advantages could turn into a big one:)
At 3:19 You could have used the bishop to force trade of bishops by forking the bishop and knight while guarded by the rook and knight on c4(not the explosive).
nf6 wasnt a bad move. its a completely normal move. it might not be as commonly played at top level than other moves, but its logical and white has no tactical refutation. the number one killer in chess is making false assummptions. Its interesting that you were frusterated that you couldnt win with your extra pawn when, as you realized later YOU should have lost a whole piece! he even had some compensation for his pawn minus. Chess is a lot more difficult and complex than you seem to think.
nf6 is bad because it lets white set up a classic pawn center after 3. cxd5 Nxd5 4. e4 Nf6. there's no reason for black to concede a center like this in a double queen's pawn opening. I'm not sure why you think you know how difficult or complex I think chess is.
Im not sure why but ive always eard from everyone ever that setting up the classic pawn center on black with that variation is exploitable, i wish i knew how but i don't :(
@ecspade Indeed, Marshall's 2...d5 has long been recognized as bad, but the refutation is not the immediate 4.e4, as Alekhine pointed out after playing this move against Marshall himself (following 4...Nf6 white defends e4 and then gets hit with 5...e5! equalizing for Black. Best is 4.Nf3, taking firm control of e5, after which e2-e4 cannot reasonably be prevented, e.g. 4...Bf5 5.Qb3 or 5.Nbd2 are both very good for White.
Alekhine pointed out that even 4,g3 would have refuted Black's play.
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DragonBice 1 month ago
That is called the Elephant trap
y318 1 month ago
idiot. Couldve move king
Jamesster101 1 month ago
yea i really suck at blitz
tavogp 2 months ago
4:57 wouldn't Knight d6 be better? Checks and gets rid of pesky pawn.
tolerateu 2 months ago
you made quite a few mistakes, but i suck at blitz anyways
oneadamtwelve86 2 months ago
Were you, by any chance, under time pressure? You did make a few mistakes.
BestToBeAnonymous 2 months ago
I once won a game as White a piece down in this line! That makes me a Grandmaster!
pierreboy5 3 months ago
1:10 is called the elephant trap.
SomeRandomAllStar 4 months ago
even if there were no trap, knight takes is a bad move since you need to develop before attacking!
tavrion 8 months ago
at 5:16, snagging the knight only included castle.
thedemonkid203 8 months ago
a simple common trap on blitz. or bulet games..wasted 6mins of my time
27mvp35 10 months ago
instead of c6 i would prefer bd5 (3:27)
holdondota 1 year ago
The trap that you're referring to is very similar to Legal's pseudo-sacrifice. There's a book called The Art of Checkmate by Georges Renaud and Victor Kahn that features some very brilliant games in which this kind of pseudo sacrifices are employed.
khashayar44 1 year ago
what a boring, poorly played game lol
yetdeeplyinept 1 year ago
Nice! I'm going to have to try this out...
xJMAN07x 1 year ago
thank uuuu
0776408609 1 year ago
Nice i like that counter by black.. imma use it on my friend seems you learn from mistakes blitz is gonna help you analyze the board quicker
dsmrider 1 year ago
Very good info for me. Im trying out different openings
jaydub031 1 year ago
you can't castle man!
sureshock34ify 1 year ago
c5 does the job better than capturing xd5... at least that's the way I prefer and it helped me many times
modifikacecom 1 year ago
nice bro
brianLgrant 1 year ago
this is called elephant trap.........
jackindobox 1 year ago
yeah , i am a frequent queens gambit player and i am aware of this position but i dont like it. i wouldnt play BG5 because good player usually will respond C6 or Be7. black will start to develop a strong attack on my queens side.
nikjey 1 year ago
I think after b5 Nb6 is winning the a7 pawn
peternubreed 1 year ago
I've heard this many times, but why is the 7th rank rook so deadly? Is it because the pawns are helpless?
Apjooz 1 year ago
memory is definately key... i lose much less now bcuz im tryin to remember previous positions... good vid for some.
da relic
slikdarelic 1 year ago
yo at 4:55 you should have movedknight to b7,Nb7, that way you would be sacrificing you knight then taking his rook with your rook putting him in check, then taking his other rook on h8. if he moved his rook you would have still gained a piece, you didnt need to defend you king because it was already being defended by your rook. but whatever..good play.
joecool30000 1 year ago
its fair u lost i guess. he overlooked that trap and u just delayed your death. haha. nice video.
MrPropapanda 1 year ago
thanks for sharing
bastiaan0741 1 year ago
i wouldnt call it "discovering a trap" i would call it over-looking a vital development, and the consequent results."
Queens gambit is my fav. When moves the e7 pawn, you should have played a3 immediately.
you've discovered one "complication" if you dont. There others, depending on what defense black uses... I always smile when i get to that point, its amusing seeing the look on black face when he/she wishes that pawn werent on a3. :)))
noble92f 2 years ago
that's the elephant trap..
WestentaschenHolmes 2 years ago
interesting trap, but wow, i would stop recording to spare myself from showing that hideous play
CrownMeKing2 2 years ago
its called elephant trap and the defense he played was not grunfeld??? it was marshall defense
Wismer1987 2 years ago
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meltogue 2 years ago
The castle was in a variant, not in the actual game. Do try to keep up, instead of focusing on being an ass.
ecspade 2 years ago
@ecspade Do you ever play standard time control?
Zelrio28 2 years ago
what the hell? i thought u weren't allowed to castle after moving your king...?
rebelsouljaz 2 years ago
XD, what a joke
venato75 2 years ago
wut joke? dude u cant, its an illegal move.
rebelsouljaz 2 years ago
r u stupid or what, he EXPLAIN the moves, he don't play the game he played against the other player, that a flash back! XD
venato75 2 years ago
xD u stupid lol
rebelsouljaz 2 years ago
why?
venato75 2 years ago
already knew this
rebelsouljaz 2 years ago
its not a weak opening, its called the grunfeld idiot
pawncleanup1 2 years ago
@pawncleanup1 wrong. the grunfeld involves g6, and ONLY if Nc3 has been played, it is not weak. In fact, 1.d4 d5 2. c4 Nf6 is a positional mistake.
cLiPz0r 2 years ago
Dude, you didn't discover this trap. Its as old as the hills.
rmb04008 2 years ago
you think that this is new?
Vexxnulvijfnul 2 years ago
. Anyways, elephant; havent seen it in a while since i play differently myself, but a must-know. Thanks for sharing.
bastiaan0741 2 years ago
i found a pretty cool one playing today check it out. 1.d4e62.e4d53.e5c54.c3Nc65.Nf3Qb66.Bd3cxd47.Nxd4Nxd48.cxd4Qxd49.Bb5+Bd710.Qxd4Bxb511.Nc3a612.Nxb5axb513.O-ORb814.Qb6 he resigned after that
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twistedflamingo1 2 years ago
good vid ive gotten into games wit some of these exact situations i could have used this a while ago
munik897 2 years ago
this is the oldest trick in the book
subatom101 2 years ago
That trap's called the Elephant Trap.
Tazbod 2 years ago 2
Hehe, everyone seems to know this trap. Or those who don't generally don't see a way to 'gain' the pawn in the first place.
adi11235 2 years ago
Elephant trap... jrobi has a vid
CUB3FR34K 2 years ago 20
@CUB3FR34K So does Kevin from thechesswebsite
shinyninetales999 1 year ago
Blitz: mistakes happen
Thanks for the info about the trap
upanddown1001 2 years ago
To be honest,this was a great trap from black....at the beginning i thought this guy is a brilliant GM,..but he makes many awfull mistakes...
Anyway,thanks for the great analysis!!
kerver73 2 years ago
After exchanging the bishops on c4 white is - in my opinion - not only better: after simple move Kd2 the black Knight on c1 has no field to escape and so white wins the game easily. Am I wrong?
Gisibert 2 years ago
this is called the Elephant trap... lol
nice vid though....
Chaos1286 3 years ago
Elephant trap.
raptriforcee 3 years ago
this the elephant's trap!!!
bakshirohini 3 years ago
This is probably the most well known trap in all opening theory, other than Fool's and Scholar's mates.
mbenoni7 3 years ago
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No... not really.
CaMoyBepeH 3 years ago
this is a great video, I am a recreational player trying to make it to the top :)...this video really helps me out alot!
ssminopoopy 3 years ago
1. d4 d5 2. c4 Nf6 - is known as the Marshall Defence.
LosAztecas 3 years ago 14
It transposes on move 3 into the QGD. No reason not to call it Queen's Gambit.
ecspade 3 years ago 3
That trap is called Elephant trap. The actual life goes that bishop checks and queen blocks check then king takes bishop and is up a piece and there is no way for white to defend his queen taken down.
eisaatappaa 3 years ago
very good trap :) always look like you don't know what you've done when you give the queen away then your opponent takes straight away ;)
timbo4bimbo 3 years ago
funny video... most all of us make those dumb blunders
bearpickle 3 years ago
lame. he's not that good. 10 seconds is on the trap
dprimetime69 3 years ago
When he pushes the pawn to b5, knight to b4 at the 5minute mark would put a lot of pressure on his rooks. You'd get both rooks for the price of the knight, if he takes it with his a7 pawn.
pimpachu 3 years ago
At 5:00 you could have gone up a piece again by playing the knight to B7 attacking the rook and then either taking it or forcing it to move and then taking the pawn with your rook moving it to the 7 rank.
Xanthos90 3 years ago
Lol dudes thats trap in queen gambit is so old.......besides in every chess book of beginings there is such a variation
Alexanderanchik 3 years ago
i hate it so much when black declines the queens gambit, basicaly white is on the back foot with an oddly placed pawn right from the start
imluvinyourmum 3 years ago
2:43 "oops" haha. Nice video, thanks.
Beardybong 3 years ago
Nothing new, i'ts called the Queen's gambit Declined Elephant trap (according to Jrobichess)
Taffytyrann 3 years ago 5
That first trap isn't very well known, even among longtime Queen's Gambit players. I beat an expert level player with it in a 60 minute timed game. Very useful
1337Tart 3 years ago
man im nervous casue i suck at chess my rating is only 900 but tomorrow im playing in world open.
eagleman209 3 years ago
wow i see it now its cool
eagleman209 3 years ago
guys it depends on how u know that opning i like french and quesn gambit and know how to use them
eagleman209 3 years ago
Nf6 isn't a bad move. its called the Marshall varition of the QGD
MAfr3ak 3 years ago
its not a false assumtion. e6 is considered better than nf6 because he prefers a pawn at d5 where it influences the center more. its a small advantage but many small advantages could turn into a big one:)
blunderking 3 years ago
At 3:19 You could have used the bishop to force trade of bishops by forking the bishop and knight while guarded by the rook and knight on c4(not the explosive).
srn347 3 years ago
nf6 wasnt a bad move. its a completely normal move. it might not be as commonly played at top level than other moves, but its logical and white has no tactical refutation. the number one killer in chess is making false assummptions. Its interesting that you were frusterated that you couldnt win with your extra pawn when, as you realized later YOU should have lost a whole piece! he even had some compensation for his pawn minus. Chess is a lot more difficult and complex than you seem to think.
idlenessss 3 years ago
nf6 is bad because it lets white set up a classic pawn center after 3. cxd5 Nxd5 4. e4 Nf6. there's no reason for black to concede a center like this in a double queen's pawn opening. I'm not sure why you think you know how difficult or complex I think chess is.
ecspade 3 years ago
Im not sure why but ive always eard from everyone ever that setting up the classic pawn center on black with that variation is exploitable, i wish i knew how but i don't :(
brainofjikir 3 years ago
@ecspade Indeed, Marshall's 2...d5 has long been recognized as bad, but the refutation is not the immediate 4.e4, as Alekhine pointed out after playing this move against Marshall himself (following 4...Nf6 white defends e4 and then gets hit with 5...e5! equalizing for Black. Best is 4.Nf3, taking firm control of e5, after which e2-e4 cannot reasonably be prevented, e.g. 4...Bf5 5.Qb3 or 5.Nbd2 are both very good for White.
Alekhine pointed out that even 4,g3 would have refuted Black's play.
mattbastardsen 1 year ago
cool
cilraycil 4 years ago
at 5:00 why wouldn't you check him?
theuppercut 4 years ago
i'm looking for more permanent squares for my pieces, and checking on d6 doesn't put me anywhere I want to stay long term.
e5 is a good square for that knight.
ecspade 4 years ago
yeah but it wouldn't have let him castle D:
theuppercut 4 years ago
@ecspade
it would have stopped him from castling tho which could provide an advantage
postmasterw00t 1 year ago
at 4:58 u shulda moved your knight to b6 because the threatening pawn is pinned. If he took your knight, you would have gotten both his rooks
lflr4lnco 4 years ago
No because then he plays rook b8 and there is nowhere for the knight to go.
brrrdman85 4 years ago
Cool trap. Nice videos.
brrrdman85 4 years ago
Haha, I remember my dad showing that trap to me when I was a little kid. It brings back good memories.
That's pretty neat to discover a "book" trap (this is in any book on the Queen's Gamit) via your own experiences rather than actually reading a book.
Take care
jj32768 4 years ago
yeah I remember seeing this someplace. I don't have any Queen's gambit books in particular, so I'm not sure exactly where I've seen it.
thanks for your comments on my videos. I'm enjoying yours very much as well!
If you ever want a game on FICS, my handle is magnumpawn.
ecspade 4 years ago