Women have all the power in the dating scene. They can have several guys in line at anytime who won't care if they are unemployed, ugly, or have disability. On the other hand, if a guy was unemployed, ugly or had a disability pretty much all women will reject and deny him.
I'm not the only person who says this, several guys on youtube have. When you have one gender having all the choice and the other one powerless you cause stuff like TFL.
i can totally agree with you 100 percent. i"m also suffering the same problem you are . i"m an attractive good looking handsome male 36 years old i am . unfortuneatly i have never been able to find someone who will want to be with me. but i strongly and whole heartedly believe i will find someone. even though i"m very hot and handsome im an introvert . i"m always short on words. i dont have an extrovert personality that attracts. but i"m very talented musicall and artistically.
i think with the personality thing is that if u dont know someone dont judge someone by first impressions...u know i mean, u cant say: "oh because she seems a little hyper she must be hard to handle and i want someone i can sit down and converse with and her not be running off on rabit trails" or whatever...its kind of like dont juddge a book by its cover (as in the back summary, excerpt, et cetra).......that prob dint make any sense but yeah(:
@millec60 Note how these "nice guys" speak about other people; they're not really nice at all. If you're a "nice guy" you actually have to act the part. Self-professed lying "nice guys" with bad character disgust me as much as racists who say "not racist" yet spout out crap about "blacks stealing our jobs and our taxpayer money" or "fake Auschwitz photos".
@cuterocker98 not true, women can be 300 lbs now a day and still date a perfectly thin guy because have so much pick. google or youtube "bbw" or "supathickmami" Supathickmami is 330 lbs and has tons and tons of male suitors and fans! Guys even pay to see her naked! Look at the amount of lustful comments left behind for overweight women on youtube by guys. how many women are going crazy for fat guys showing off their rolls on youtube or in real life?
@cuterocker98 for a girl to be considered attractive these days, she just has to be not be overweight and she has 5000 guys in line for her. if women want to look attractive, it is to compete with themselves because they only want the top 20 percent of men even though they are average, overweight or ugly themselves. for a guy to get female attention he needs to look like a male model. for a girl to get male attention, she just needs to be a girl.
"sorry my hair looks like shit today" .... you obviously werent worth the loreal now were you.... your juxtaposition on the matter is askew and even from your first sentence your argument on the matter was flawed..... Women could be viewed as a viral element to society moving from one situationally resource rich environment which is closest to them to another "richer" environment it happens everyday, but being from the female viewpoint your brain is not hard wired to see it....
True forced loneliness means that a women like yourself who is slightly above average will never have to worry about finding a mate, or dating. A lot of men in this movement just get pissed that it's so easy for women who are average, slightly above average, and even obese or ugly when it comes to relationships, while there are a quite a few men who are above average in looks who struggle with finding someone. Which means most ugly guys and lots of average guys are reduced to begging.
I hate that cliche. You can't love someone else unless you love yourself. If you love yourself then you are probably narcissistic and high maintenance and full of yourself. It's bullshit. I don't love myself and never will. Doesn't mean I can't love a woman. You don't understand. Women just have to sit back and say yay or nay. The average guy can't do that. Women are clueless when it comes to this. I don't even bother trying to meet a woman because I don't have any money right now.
@Bisquack That's not true at all. I truly do love myself, and you should too. I'm none of those things. Everybody also sits back and says "yay or nay." We as humans do it all of the time. You do it too. Nobody is attracted to every single person in the world.
I'm not clueless. There's somebody for everyone out there, but if the people here don't look (you all seem to have given up, which is sad) you will never find them.
@lilredcutie0 I haven't given up. I just don't have any money. There is someone for everybody or everybody that doesn't have any unusual deformaties, psychotic problems, paralysis, burn victims, facial tumors, tourette's syndrome. Do you factor that into the soulmate equation?
I love how women say its about "personality" when they reject guys based on looks before they can even get to know their personality! I love it how when a man points out an injustice in the dating scene he is labeled as a woman hater. Women will never address their own shallowness, they will just turn it around and place the blame on the unattractive man and use cop out lines like "creepy" and "bad attitude" when they know damn well they are rejecting him because of his looks!
@GameIsLooks Amen to that brother, women will always divert the blame from their own shallowness and superficiality back on to the man with lame excuses like the ones you have alluded to.
Interesting, I was a TFL for years and years. I'd average about 1 girlfriend for a couple months every 5 years or so. Then when I hit my 40's some kind of internal switch flipped and my attraction to women dropped to maybe 3% of what it was back in my 20's. Oh I see women looking but I'm just inclined to followup on their signals.
Too bad really because I do have crap loads of money and recently lost 19 lbs (simply because I was tired of carrying a bit of middle aged weight around).
My years as a TFL victim had a benefit. It kept me free of marriage, divorce, seizure of assets, alimony and child support. I paid off my home and got totally debt free. Now it only takes about 30% of my take home pay to cover all my spending (on everything) for the month. That leaves about 2700 a month extra. What do I do with the excess? I'm saving for a house on a couple acres. I want a big garden.
LOL LACI, you women don't sympathize with unattractive men. you guys ridicule unattractive when they display confidence. cut the bull crap. at the end of the day you females open your legs to the best looking guy you can get regardless of personality. you use stuff like"creepy" and "attitude" to reject unattractive men when the reality is you are rejecting them for being unattractive.
its funny how there are so many men that have to go to third world countries and go to bullshit ass pua boot camps to try to get one person into their life. how many women have to do that? ZERO. a woman can be overweight/fat/ugly and still have 50 guys ten times better looking than ready to date her.
just use the picture of a male model on a dating site and you will see just how shallow these women are. any lame joke you say will be funny and any lame hobby you have will be viewed as interesting. the reason tfl exists is because women reject men in 1-5 seconds without getting to know them. even average/overweight/plain/UGLY females have more power and more pick in the dating scene than the average guy. women date UP in terms of looks and men date down (some don't even date at all!)
Is it really so bad to be alone, focused on the goals you aspire to accomplish and without distraction? Maybe I'm just asexual but I see people with magnificent dreams in life that slowly dissolve with their progression of relationships.
But...in a forced loneliness scenario because of unattractiveness, don't wollo(it doesn't help the weight)... do more, want more and accomplish more for your own self. People may recognize you in different ways so ultimately, you don't have to be alone.
I think that being able to wake up in the morning, and then TALK TO THE ENTIRE WORLD about anything, let alone doing it with bed head, sets a prime example of true self confidence. Live on, Lace Green.
also, is it really an issue of personality that is being discussed as a factor that should be disregarded in interaction? i mean in the dating scene whether you go to bars, lounges, clubs, ect or its within normal places where people interact (school, work, hobby spots) your personality doenst really come out or is expressed enough for someone to judge it. i would figure its the outward appearance or whatnot and they just use the personality bit to cover it up.
In the Western world this more true for men on the lower pecking order. If a man is short, less than attractive, shy, unsocial awkward, unmuscular, out of shape, lacking in materiel wealth, status and accomplishment he is likely destined to be alone for much of his adult life. We are animals- the female of the specie needs only the best genes and resources. In poor sexually liberated countries, the ugliest of men usually gets a wife. That is why people there are less attractive.
For the less impressive male specimens: sorry, you are a lame horse and you do not get to stud. It is just your genetic fate. Life is inherently unfair. Some have all the luck, and they get to enjoy all that life has to offer- Others get to exist and not really live, enduring all the misery, the humiliation and deprivation that the world heaps on them while they watch others have the time of their life. Be pragmatic about it; do what you can to improve your lot in the world and live a little!
End of the day I don't judge other females on just looks, but I can tell just by looking at them for 2 seconds that there not worth trying to chat up becaue all girls look the same these days. Fake tan and a gormless fucking look on their face.
It's all a game. Can you really blame people for being ignorant and socialized? You can't change the world, so the way your ranked in society and your relationships with people are based on how well you play this game. Up till now this is all I can say about relationships. You need to also know the difference between people you can be honest with and those you can't. Everyone is so different..
u are so spot on. I can't judge by personality? I thought that is how we are supposed to judge ppl. i know fuck looks and what they have, but fuck if they a good, well rounded person too? not gonna digest that!
laci, it's not true. tons of guys have lots of confidence but it doesn't create attraction. if you are tall and hot, you don't have to love yourself. the dates fall in your lap. google this "the myth of confidence" and you will find an excellent forum post on HappierAbroad which explains why confidence is a vague term and why it has to be based on something real. also see steve hoca's video on youtube debunking "the secret". what he says is totally true and not politically correct like you are.
Of course we should all turn to a human trafficker to just send us a prostitute from a third world country, she will no doubt be an accomplished actress and pretend to be madly in love with you for a shot at those magic immigration papers.
Human trafficking is a growing problem and should be reported to the authoritys.
lacigreen, can you check out my site and movement, which addresses similar problems that the TFL movement does, but offers a real solution instead? The link is HappierAbroad dot c o m. Maybe you can do a video on it? Thanks, Winston
women often lie that there are no good men out there. but the truth is, they know a ton of good men out there. but they just don't fit their ideal high standard type. you should see steve hoca's latest interview about how disabled women still have dating choices and guys who want to marry them, but disabled men have no chance at all? lacigreen, how do you explain that? you can't deny that the american dating scene is highly unfair, can you?
Disabled women still have vaginas. A vagina, even on a double amputee, still has a a value, even if it is subconsciously perceived by male suitors. Women are programmed to seek the best genes that they can find and also look for resources. Women in the West have enough materiel wealth to be very picky about who they can allow in their lady parts. Result: low tier men are sexually barred and population genetics improve!
@ibmsony101 this is absolutely why men should lie to women in order to bed them and move on if you come across a woman like this and leave her not only should you not feel guilty you should definately consider it a service to the next man and possibly point a few of your friends her way so they can have a go at her as well,, since we are low tier studs, then lieing about wealth and deceiving her should be considered a good strategy until she doesnt think she can get any better...
@fixt100 Would you believe that men have went to jail for a new crime called "Rape by Deception" whereby if you lied to a woman to get her to sleep with you when she would otherwise have not done so, then you are a rapist. Yes it is bullshit considering how deceptive women are! I advise that you do not lead a woman on who knows where you live or she can potentially fuck up your life. Get an escort if you can afford it instead!
@ibmsony101 i wouldnt even pay for a hotel room much less give her the real name,, that "crime" is only recognised in some states and the judges admited the sex was consenting in the few cases posted so guys out there check your state laws first to be safe k. i have seen women jump ship at the first sign of an upgrade so often that it doesnt even shock me anymore so i get my male friends to try and get them away from me every chance they get and if they get em they let me know(cont)
@ibmsony101 (cont) this is great because i find out about the woman, my buddy gets a "free" ride and when she thinks she has a guy lined up he dumps her on her ass and its all on her own doing, just amazing the good feeling you get from it i cannot tell you...
women don't flirt to get a man, they do it to boost their own ego. men and women don't emotionally connect. women are not truly romantic. they are just playing around. I've met far more romantic men than women. why do you think women don't mind if there is a third person tagging along with them on a date, whereas men do? the only person a woman truly loves is her child, not man.
@HappierAbroadTV How true. In America, women are more interested in how much money a man makes rather then how romantic he is. Studies have shown that American women are some of the least flirtacious women in the world! A lot of women in America don't even make eye contact with men, they would prefer to meet guys through their friends.
A woman? wont suffer in the dating game until one of 2 things happen . 1. western civilization ends, or 2. The world run out of resources to power modern technology. You see women where giving the thing between her legs to counter a man's strength. Since a man's strength is no longer a plus in the western society he becomes the weaker sex. A woman on the other hand can still use what nature gave her as a power a man can't use his strength so he has no bargaining chip but to obtain riches.
The dude is morbidly obese, unintelligent, has no job, cusses every other word, always miserable, and lives at home with his parents at like 30 years old.
I like your take on those guys, thelacepaste. Yes, they're a bit crazy and I disagree with most of what they say, but I cannot help but feel bad for them. I used to have terrible luck with dating and I understand their pain. That said, you're right about the victim mentality. It's stupid. Most guys in that situation can fix it. I took up bodybuilding, lost weight, gained lots of muscle, and a few years later, dating is unbelievably easy.
Women hold ALL the power in the dating game. ALL of it. That's why I find the fact that there are girls with low self esteem a complete mind fuck and a contradiction.
@upabittoolate I am sorry, but I must respectfully disagree, as far as dating is concerned women hold all the power as they are choosers and gatekeepers of relationships and sex, not men.
My friend, I've turned down more women than I've had. The woman I have now (whom I hope to marry eventually) was my choice.
If it's just about pussy, I can't tell you how many times I've heard, "Jim, don't you see me throwing it at you?" & my reply has been, "you won't be the 1st or last so calm down". Ultimately, you need to man up & get your game up. When you do, you'll find that the act of choosing is yours. When you want something deeper, you'll find that it's shared mutually.
@upabittoolate Firstly I am glad to hear that you are in a happy relationship, and I hope it all goes well for you and your partner. That said, the only reason you have been able to turn down more women, than women turn you down is because you are a tall, dark and handsome man that most women want. If you lost out in the genetics lottery like I did, then you are a beggar, not a chooser.
@InspectorMontelbano1 My friend, looks only get a man through the door. A relationship takes effort, compromise, hope & luck. It's not just my looks that keep her & me together. I'm broke as a joke. I'm not always the world's nicest person. But I am good with my hands. I fix the car. I replace busted pipes at her rental property. I shovel the snow. Also, I serve a good dad for her young daughter.
Plenty of guys are good-looking. Substance is what's paramount.
@InspectorMontelbano1 Ultimately, what I'm saying is that, as a man, you have to recognize the power you have & figure the best way to harness it. When you do, you'll find that "substance" about which I was talking. It's not easy. (repeat) It's NOT EASY. But it's 1 of those moments we all come to in our lives that define us. Not all men are handsome or rich. But all men have power. That power is worthy. YOU are worthy. Stop selling yourself so short all the time. You're getting in your own way.
@MrHav1k don't waste your time arguing with these dumbass shallow women bro. all these women use are "ad hominem" attacks like you need "confidence" or "who wants a guy with that attitude." the reality is, they give 2 shits about attitude and have no problem opening their legs nice and wide to a handsome guy. when a woman says she wants a man with confidence it means she wants a good looking guy to approach her not an ugly one.
@MrHav1k its good to know more guys like you know the truth. another thing, isnt it funny how the one gender who dont do ANYTHING IN THE DATING scene is giving males advice. the only thing women have to do, is take their pick from all the lonely desperate men out there. we all know the advice women give can't be taken for face value. they will always make themselves try to sound "unshallow" but at the end of the day they sleep with the best looking guy they can get.
This is more true of women. Even the ugly girls get hit on all the time and they become fucking picky and bitchy as shit, and there's nothing you can do about it. Not tall? Can't do shit about it. Not rich, you can kinda do something about that, but its luck based. Not good looking? lol. You're fucked! Women can be picky as fuck!!!
Basically if you're not born attractive, youre fucked.
@MrHav1k As a fat chick (fat = ugly in the us) I can say no, we do not get hit on a lot nor am I, at least or any of the fat girls I know, picky and bitchy when it comes to dating. Every relationship I have had except one, I have had to pursue myself. Just wanted to say that. I think most TFLs have such incredibly high standards that the women they view as ugly are actually at least 4s or 5s since I've heard them call famous actresses average.
@MrHav1k No, thats my honest opinion. I've never spoken to a TFL, incel, or loveshy guy that was NOT a hateful prick who only went after very attractive women. Not one. And I've tried, because I used to feel really bad for them, having been in the same situation for many years. Except as a woman, you may get attention but 95% of the attention is just going after an easy lay so you have to be cautious or you get fucked over literally. But, I don't care whether you "buy it" or not.
LOL. I thought you said you didn't get hit on? Typical female bullshit. Every argument you have made has been picked apart by TFL. These men don't have high standards, they have NO standards, they have no standards because they have no choice. Women have choice, men don't unless they're in the top % of attractive men. That top 5% that you actually give the time of day since you have the power to reject the other 95%...
You have in attempting to disprove TFL, proved them right.
@MrHav1k I can't know the experience of my female friends? I've had 3 relationships, only one came to me, the others I had to seek. That doesn't mean that I don't talk, however. And actually, I said nothing about the lower 95%, I said 95% of attention women get is just looking for sex and nothing else. Women cannot indulge those men because if they do GUESS WHAT they're a slut and they're STILL SEEN AS WRONG. It has nothing to do with looks it has to do with what the man wants.
@MrHav1k And, nothing to do with money or other BS either. If you approach a woman looking for casual sex, unless she is ALSO looking for casual sex and you are the type she wants to fuck, she'll decline. At bars, clubs, women are not usually looking to find a date. They want to have fun and probably get drunk and some of them wanna do something they'll regret the next day... just like guys, really. But, you have your head so far up your ass you wont see anything but your delusions.
@HeatherC19 And to be completely honest I think it is due to ridiculous standards that the U.S society has instilled in its citizens..moreso with its women. Which was factor that pushed me away from the U.S to IE. Not to mention my Irish woman is nothing like her sisters in the states..which was just another bonus.
@MrHav1k Maybe, just maybe, if you stopped having a massive persecution complex about everything you could see beyond your own twisted mind and realize the world is a little deeper than the TFL armchair psychoanalysts have described it to be. Its not all about money, or looks, or sex. I don't factor any of that stuff in when I ask myself "do I wanna date this guy or not". What I do ask myself is "do I enjoy his company" "is he trustworthy" and "do we have enough in common"
@MrHav1k Sex is a bonus- it's not required. I can replace sex. Money is a bonus too. I can make money myself. Looks are pretty irrelevant. But men, in the US and in other countries, always bitch about sex, money, and looks when it comes to women. Why? Why cant these guys realize the problem isn't everyone else and everything else its THEM? If you're a hateful person, with nothing but anger on your mind all the time who on earth would enjoy your company?
@MrHav1k All the contact I've had with TFL/Incel/Loveshy the men are hateful and spiteful and want to blame everyone else and even the world itself for their problems. There's a word for that and its called IRRESPONSIBLE. Then they go throw tantrums there's a word for that too, CHILDISH. No woman wants a serious relationship with an irresponsible childish motherfucker. You can't build a home with that. You can't enjoy that company.
@MrHav1k And for the record... just for the record... I think if anyone ever did hit on me I would be too flattered to worry about what it was they wanted. Even the relationship that did come to me, the guy didn't really hit on me. We were friends and he asked me out. I've never gotten an out of the blue "you're pretty" or "can I have your number". I don't think I ever will either. But I'm ok with that because I'm ok with myself. I can enjoy my own company. You guys, apparently, can not
@MrHav1k They only come up once the guy is worth my time? I already told you attractiveness has nothing to do with it. You're the one that doesn't get it. As for why women have more partners... we make more mistakes before finding the right one. A man will gladly tell you he loves you and will marry you just to bed you and leave you the next day, when you have to start over.
@HeatherC19 American women seem to make the same mistake it seems if what you are saying is true. If looks didn't matter then you wouldn't see a staggering amount of women with pretty playboy type..and even us men can tell that he is playing you. Due to this we now have the Single mother epidemic.
@MrHav1k For whatever reason, you lot just don't love yourselves. And before that happens you'll never get love from anyone else who isn't looking to hurt you. And well, no I don't understand. This isn't gravity, I can't hold my water bottle out over the floor, drop it and say "well there it is", this is an abstract concept made up by men to suit their arguments that the whole world is out to punish them.
@MrHav1k But the more I think about it, maybe you've all done something deserving of punishment. TFL/Incel/Loveshy as I said have always been hateful to me and to those I know, even other men. Maybe there's just something wrong with you. If the world IS out to get you by some odd chance I'd have to say I'm siding with the world on this one.
@HeatherC19 What's funny is that all the time that I have lived here in IE, I have NEVER heard of the TFL movement and even throughout my travel in EU. The relationship dynamic in America is in ruins. I've seen some TFL vids and yes I sense some bitterness but to an extent they have a point. Problem is women just dismiss it all as bitterness which doesn't help anyone.
@HeatherC19 Total and utter BULLSHIT!!, men who suffer from TFL are not hateful and bitter, they are just men whose only "crime", in the eyes of you shallow women, is that they are not "hot" enough.
@MrHav1k Horseshit. You just don't have enough game to choose. That's on you, my friend. I'm kind, handsome, tall, intelligent & witty. I'm also broke to the extent that I couldn't give a crippled crab a crutch in a forest of trees. That hasn't stopped me from having my say in what women I deal with. In fact, it's all the more reason to have more say-so. What's YOUR problem? Are you so self-defeated that you can't see the truth?
No shit you're going to have "game," when you're tall and good looking. That's all game is. Women will rationalize everything you do if you're good looking enough, that's why girls date douchebags and serial killers. Game = looks. PUA is BULLSHIT, you're just brainwashed like all the other mangina men.
@MrHav1k "Mangina" is a word used by lonely lowlifes who can't get a date. Irrespective of that fact, your premise that women hold all the cards presupposes that you, yourself, are not empowered. Game isn't about looks. Why do I say that? Because I can personally name 30 men, whom I know, that aren't rich or handsome or brilliant, that get their pick of the ladies. Why? Because they've mastered the art of finessing a woman. Stop whining. Step your game up.
And I have 1,000,000+ examples to the contrary of that. "Art?" those PUA cunts really fucked up your head, theres no art to attraction, you're either good looking or you're not. Looks matter. Just Youtube search for "When Ugly guys attack," or "don't date ugly guys." You don't hear about good looking guys going to PUA bootcamps and learning game do you? Its all bullshit.
@MrHav1k You don't have 1M examples. The only person here with a fucked up head is the guy who's so uptight about getting a date that he exaggerates data & uses "mangina". Looks do NOT matter all the time. You must be hideous looking to the degree that you're mad at your M&P for doing such a bad job of breeding. Sad. But it's not the end of the world. Step your game up.
@MrHav1k Honestly I think the people who think this way have major psychological issues WITH THEMSELVES and they need to get over those before they even think about being with anyone else. Oh, and if you're saying the contradiction is me being bitchy? I specifically said "when it comes to dating". I have no concern for being polite to some macho man wannabe on the internet who'd probably whimper like a pup if it came time to back those big words up.
For 1, I bet your weight isn't as bad as you let on. 2ndly, I bet you do get hit on (kudos for keeping your swagger up). You're correct that TFLers have an unrealistic expectations. I'm not bragging but I've been called "move star". I've had plenty of "ugly" girls though (my mother always jokes that I'm better looking than my gfs). Why? Because I'm not shallow to the point where I'm hung up on something so arbitrary. It's about how you make each other feel. It's about the real intimacy.
@MrHav1k right on, women also call ugly guys "creepy" to justify their shallowness but if a handsome displays the same type of behavior it is viewed as bold and confident. women are PICKIER when it comes to looks than men are. women are only attracted to the stop percentage of men (even if they are average themselves) You got obese bbw women who are considered "sexy" and attractive. these women have no problem dating thin men but the same can't be said for obese men.
Those guys are fucking nuts. If you can't find a mate than that's life. I don't have a girl friend either, I don't mesh well with women because I don't shair most peoples world view, women are interested in me but I can't really ever connect with them because my personality is about 5 degrees off from most people. But SO WHAT some peole can't walk or see WTF have I got to complane about?
@shf84 it is not life. it is an elite agenda to destroy the gender lines. in most of the world, it is NOT like that, and not that hard to get a girlfriend. I have a ton of proof of that. learn about the true solution to TFL at HappierAbroad dot c o m. come take a look at it. it is more unique and deeper than any other dating site.
What if you are attractive, but are a TFL anyways?
Explain that one to me. Also what you are not getting is that they are saying to judge a person based on their character. Not their money, or looks (too much at least,) ect...
I dare anyone to write a hostile comment in response to this because this shit is about to degenerate into a full scale gender war. Feminists do you really want to see who the superior sex is? K LMK bitches.
Oh it's true. And often for guys who aren't that bad looking.
In my case I was an utter reject when I was young. It broke my heart and when it healed it healed wrong. Now even though my appearance and my wealth level have improved dramatically, I don't have the desire to dive into that pit of vipers again. I became solitary to the point where a girlfriend is a disruption. Every time I get a girlfriend, I feel confined and trapped. I'm not really happy again until she dumps me.
2. It's too bad really. I would have made an excellent husband. And money? Well I've got a family wage job on a single man's expenses. Now that my home and all my debts are paid off, it only takes about 30% of my take home pay to cover all my spending (ON EVERYTHING) for the month. That leaves about 2500 a month sitting in the checking account, until I transfer it into my investments or buy a big laptop or something.
you do not get it... some of them are lonely due to how society is toward them. Society does place a lot of value into looks and status. I myself know that for a fact, I was single for year and was a virgin for a really long time. Even if my career and educative goals were always important for me, work in Education and have a BA now and going towards an MA, that did not mattered at all for a lot of women i met in my life, and I am 29 years old now.
con: I have a gf now, but only after going through all of the BS of the female gender did I realized that most women are shallow and most women are hypocrites. This one rule made me learn to not care so much about having a gf, but to enjoy it once I do. I still believe how society is and how women are and how TFL may be true for some males out there. But society has made it so that us as a society looks as people who are going through it as weak or weird
Sorry your kindness has drawn the ire of these douchebags who think they can be fat, smelly, angry and idolize serial killers and still find a woman who likes them.
I want to tell you that they don't represent all men and to keep being a kind and generous person....but you seem grounded enough to realize that anyway.
@cockzilla13 Bullshit!!, women give the worst possible dating advice, do you want to know why? Because when it comes to dating, female words don't match their actions. Classic example, wome say they prefer nice men, but who do they spread their legs for in an instant? BAD BOYS AND THUGS. I rest my case.
And that's why I can feel as much empathy as you can. for these "forever alone" guys.
Their loneliness is due to the fact that refuse to see an individual when they see a woman. They're more in love with being in love, they lust after sex...
Underneath it all, they have nothing to offer, and they want someone else to do all the hard work of making a relationship happen.
That's a full time babysitting job, not a fairy tale...
@DejaVoodooDoll No, you are wrong, very wrong, many TFL/"forever alone guys" are alone often through no fault of their own. I have lived TFL my virtually my entire life (I am 42), and there's not much I can do if women reject me instantly because of my looks and perceived race. You also falsely assume TFL/lonely men do nothing with regards to making a relationship happen, which is total bullshit because I know many TFL men who have endured humdreds, even thousands of rejections.
@InspectorMontelbano1 so true, plus, american women hate asian guys and any guy under 5ft 9 will be friend zoned or ignored. women are hypocrites for sure. they always say they like a nice guy with a good personality, but in reality they reject such guys unless they are tall and hot. so in their actions, it is definitely all about looks. total hypocrisy. there's no denying it. women never win debates on this topic, cause they have no defense. come visit the HappierAbroad website.
@DejaVoodooDoll what are you supposed to offer? not money, financial stability, PUA game, swagger, confidence, material items and all the bullshit society crams down our throats, aren't you supposed to have yourself, as a person, to offer? I always thought a relationship was based on 2 people, and who they were, not what they had.
I'm not attractive. I'm been torn apart for it, whenever I dare to step outside.. Nobody will hire me, due to my health problems.
I have a girlfriend. Her name is Adrianne. She was in a dark place when we met, and swears I saved her life. Maybe it's true. Who knows? All I know is that seeing her light up when she sees me, takes me out of my dark place. She scares me in all the right ways. She plans to save the world. Supervillainess and superheroine in one.
So true. Most of these TFL want to be loved for no goddamn reason. Sorry but people love others for not only their character but what they can bring to the relationship. If you don't have a stable future that most women look for then you can't be surprised when they leave.
Also cultivate friendships for the sake of companionship. Find others interested in the things you like. So maybe then you won't be so lonely.
@MissMaggieDynamo Typical female shaming language, what the fuck would you know about being lonely? I know lots of decent men (and I am one of them) who are living TFL, Involuntary Celibacy whatever you want to call it, and just like you women, us men we feel the need to be loved too. As men we are damned if we do, and damned if we don't, as a man if you try and meet women and get rejected , you get shamed, but of you give up like many TFLers, youl get shamed. Us men can't win with you women.
@MissMaggieDynamo that's total BS. I know tons of people, including myself, that had great careers, but women never liked us for it. it never created attractions. it's all about looks and height. you can't deny that. it's so obvious.
Some guys like me are always gonna be alone and ignoed by everyone(not just women in my case). I know that I don't have anything to offer, that I am lazy, ugly, broke and not fun to be around people.
I guess what I am saying is, try to be a little more understanding. I know that no one will accept me, and I don't ask for acceptance. I just ask for you not to mock us so much, cuz we didn't do you wrong.
I will say, however, that people should keep trying, even if they don't succeed, at maintaining good relationships and attracting romantic partners. It's fine to judge people on their personality as long as a.) you don't create scripts in your mind and expect potential romantic partners to follow them 100%, as this is extremely cruel and narcissistic, or b.) judge people too quickly, as many people put on airs, making this an extremely judgmental/stupid thing to do.
Judge people based on their ethics and morality, and secondarily, their personality. Seek people you have alot in common with.
Also, how does personal empowerment make other people like you? It's not true at all that being empowered and loving yourself makes you attractive to others. Often, empowerment becomes pushiness and loving yourself degenerates into narcissism, both of which are extremely unattractive. You have no right to say that we have no right to complain about the dating scene.
Yeah well gurl, it might be disenpowering. But if you ever went +20 years of not having romantic companionship I'd like to see how self-confident you'd be. It is very hard, I don't even belong to that movement or whatever. But being alone causes psychological damage to people, I know so. As a girl you probably won't be able to understand this. For most girls "being alone" means breaking up with their boyfriend and spending 2 or 3 months untill getting a new one, with casual sex in between.
@witchbloodgirl Oh the irony is killing me!!!, ironically the men who do treat women like shit ie. the bad boys,thugs,wife bashers etc, seem to be the most successful at attracting women, care to explain that one?
@witchbloodgirl that's not true. most men treat women like princesses, but are taken for granted and dumped or ignored. women do NOT emotionally connect with men. they feel nothing when they dump a guy. they turn off their feelings like a light switch.
CURE TO TFL: diet, crunches, push-ups, playing an instrument,sport,doing art... something awesome and cool, good clothes, good hair or a hat to cover your bald spot, going out and REALLY trying to get girls with the best appearance and best confident demeanor and interesting personality you can muster. WOMAN ARE AWESOME I'm a twenty year old virgin but I'm not gunna blame women for my shortcomings, women are smart, hot, kind and awesome when you talk to the right ones.
Very good report! I've been burned by love more than my fair share but you know what? I didn't give up. I'm not a handsome fellow, not rich by any means, but I have a personality. The members of this "TFL movement" expect for someone to love them without actually putting in any effort to love anyone else. They don't try to fix their situation, they give up. This is no way to live! If you think you'll be alone forever then congratulations, you get your wish!
@sdwilliams777 I am not a member of the TFL group, but most of what they say (bar the conspiracy theries), is bang on the money. I have been living TFL my whole life (I am 42), and I know many hardworking decent men who have busted their arses trying to meet women, only to be shot down in a hail of self esteem detroying rejection through no fault of their own. I am trying to cure my TFL by going to the gym, and I am now in good shape, the problem is women reject me instantly because I am ugly.
@sdwilliams777 that's not true. good looking tall guys get dates in america without even trying, even if they don't want it. plus, come in other countries, ugly guys can get girlfriends? explain that.
There is an android obeast clone attack going on calling it genesis some ugly fat android clone woman having skiny children--no man would dare fuck them they kill our beautiful woman and replace them with this new death form clone they think is life. Life from fat death! SEE REPTILIANS LEADERS ON UTUBE.
I have been left behind by my former friends and still remain a virgin at 36 years of age. I do feel TFL exists because although, I have a wide array intersts from sciences to having fun in the outdoors, I find the skill of making friends and finding a girlfriend very elusive to me. Many people never get to know me because of my social anxiety and they perceive me as a loser. Which is why I post many videos about my activities on youtube, although some may seem retarded.
have you considered hiring a sex worker? i know some people find it distasteful but its better than sexual suffocation. i know its not about sex alone. its about the feeling of being desired as well but you can atleast create that delusion every now and then.
@runtodahills Actually my issue lies with unresolved childhood attachment issues due to malparenting. TFL in my sense is as a result of not having adequate social skills, not with the being burned by love/women like many people say. In a matter of weeks I will be having oral surgery. In the upcoming months, I will be doing some first descents on my skis, and also going for my degree. Really the only thing that would force me into lonliness is my age. We live in a sociey fixated on youth.
I consider myself a great person... but True Forced loneliness is a real concept i believe in now... regardless of what i do or try I always end up alone.
ive gotten so used to it it doesn't hurt anymore.
If you go talk to people outside of the U.S. they'll tell you. Western women are shit. Theyre shallow and ignorant and superficial. In a sad way, they dont even realize they're like this. For instance, they would try to break down an idea about forced loneliness when they know that all a woman has to do is put on tight jeans and sit at a bar and batt her eyelashes and she doesnt have to be lonely does she? And yet she would mock them. In the end, women will line up to be abused by the assholes.
Guess what girls. Men DO NOT like liberal women. If you bought into that whole liberal, feminist garbage and stick with it, more than likely you will wind up being a lesbian or will grow old woth 30 or more cats as your friends. Men have not changed in tens of thousands of years and we still want a submissive woman who completes us, but doesnt dominate us. You can still be strong and empowered socially while maintaining a form of submission to your man. You must nurture his spirit and his ego.
I doubt you know anything about loneliness or losing in the dating game, but you're absolutely correct in your criticism. Sexual selection does not abide by fairness, justice, or compassion.
no one said dont judge personality in fact get to know that shy guy who carries your books read the poems guys send you women ignore nice guys and only go for the guys who are hard core prisioner bad asses and then they have the gaul to get mad at how men abuse them well maby if you dident date bad asses and give nice guys a shot you wouldent get abused
Women have all the power in the dating scene. They can have several guys in line at anytime who won't care if they are unemployed, ugly, or have disability. On the other hand, if a guy was unemployed, ugly or had a disability pretty much all women will reject and deny him.
I'm not the only person who says this, several guys on youtube have. When you have one gender having all the choice and the other one powerless you cause stuff like TFL.
Watch all my videos on my channel.
inconvenientruth1 17 hours ago
i can totally agree with you 100 percent. i"m also suffering the same problem you are . i"m an attractive good looking handsome male 36 years old i am . unfortuneatly i have never been able to find someone who will want to be with me. but i strongly and whole heartedly believe i will find someone. even though i"m very hot and handsome im an introvert . i"m always short on words. i dont have an extrovert personality that attracts. but i"m very talented musicall and artistically.
TheMetalman75 5 days ago
i think with the personality thing is that if u dont know someone dont judge someone by first impressions...u know i mean, u cant say: "oh because she seems a little hyper she must be hard to handle and i want someone i can sit down and converse with and her not be running off on rabit trails" or whatever...its kind of like dont juddge a book by its cover (as in the back summary, excerpt, et cetra).......that prob dint make any sense but yeah(:
cuterocker98 1 week ago
@millec60 Note how these "nice guys" speak about other people; they're not really nice at all. If you're a "nice guy" you actually have to act the part. Self-professed lying "nice guys" with bad character disgust me as much as racists who say "not racist" yet spout out crap about "blacks stealing our jobs and our taxpayer money" or "fake Auschwitz photos".
riki9999 1 week ago
@riki9999 Totally agree.
lilredcutie0 1 week ago
Women have it easy; they don't have to do shit. Even shy women get married just as often as women who are not shy.
420atheism 2 weeks ago
@420atheism i beg to differ.....in the appearance realm, women have more pressure than men do as far as dress, makeup et cetra
cuterocker98 1 week ago
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@cuterocker98 not true, women can be 300 lbs now a day and still date a perfectly thin guy because have so much pick. google or youtube "bbw" or "supathickmami" Supathickmami is 330 lbs and has tons and tons of male suitors and fans! Guys even pay to see her naked! Look at the amount of lustful comments left behind for overweight women on youtube by guys. how many women are going crazy for fat guys showing off their rolls on youtube or in real life?
GameIsLooks 1 week ago
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@cuterocker98 for a girl to be considered attractive these days, she just has to be not be overweight and she has 5000 guys in line for her. if women want to look attractive, it is to compete with themselves because they only want the top 20 percent of men even though they are average, overweight or ugly themselves. for a guy to get female attention he needs to look like a male model. for a girl to get male attention, she just needs to be a girl.
GameIsLooks 1 week ago
@cuterocker98
BULLSHIT. Your fat ass can be 400 fucking pounds and still get female attention...
There are men out there who LOVE BBWs, but how many women love big beautiful men???? NONE, get real bitch.
MrHav1k 1 week ago
"sorry my hair looks like shit today" .... you obviously werent worth the loreal now were you.... your juxtaposition on the matter is askew and even from your first sentence your argument on the matter was flawed..... Women could be viewed as a viral element to society moving from one situationally resource rich environment which is closest to them to another "richer" environment it happens everyday, but being from the female viewpoint your brain is not hard wired to see it....
sexysluttsbabes 2 weeks ago
True forced loneliness means that a women like yourself who is slightly above average will never have to worry about finding a mate, or dating. A lot of men in this movement just get pissed that it's so easy for women who are average, slightly above average, and even obese or ugly when it comes to relationships, while there are a quite a few men who are above average in looks who struggle with finding someone. Which means most ugly guys and lots of average guys are reduced to begging.
24props 2 weeks ago
@24props exactly.
GameIsLooks 2 weeks ago
@24props Bullshit.
upabittoolate 2 weeks ago
I hate that cliche. You can't love someone else unless you love yourself. If you love yourself then you are probably narcissistic and high maintenance and full of yourself. It's bullshit. I don't love myself and never will. Doesn't mean I can't love a woman. You don't understand. Women just have to sit back and say yay or nay. The average guy can't do that. Women are clueless when it comes to this. I don't even bother trying to meet a woman because I don't have any money right now.
Bisquack 2 weeks ago
@Bisquack That's not true at all. I truly do love myself, and you should too. I'm none of those things. Everybody also sits back and says "yay or nay." We as humans do it all of the time. You do it too. Nobody is attracted to every single person in the world.
I'm not clueless. There's somebody for everyone out there, but if the people here don't look (you all seem to have given up, which is sad) you will never find them.
lilredcutie0 1 week ago
@lilredcutie0 I haven't given up. I just don't have any money. There is someone for everybody or everybody that doesn't have any unusual deformaties, psychotic problems, paralysis, burn victims, facial tumors, tourette's syndrome. Do you factor that into the soulmate equation?
Bisquack 1 week ago
I love how women say its about "personality" when they reject guys based on looks before they can even get to know their personality! I love it how when a man points out an injustice in the dating scene he is labeled as a woman hater. Women will never address their own shallowness, they will just turn it around and place the blame on the unattractive man and use cop out lines like "creepy" and "bad attitude" when they know damn well they are rejecting him because of his looks!
GameIsLooks 3 weeks ago
@GameIsLooks Amen to that brother, women will always divert the blame from their own shallowness and superficiality back on to the man with lame excuses like the ones you have alluded to.
InspectorMontelbano1 3 weeks ago
1.
Interesting, I was a TFL for years and years. I'd average about 1 girlfriend for a couple months every 5 years or so. Then when I hit my 40's some kind of internal switch flipped and my attraction to women dropped to maybe 3% of what it was back in my 20's. Oh I see women looking but I'm just inclined to followup on their signals.
Too bad really because I do have crap loads of money and recently lost 19 lbs (simply because I was tired of carrying a bit of middle aged weight around).
vention4wh 3 weeks ago
2.
My years as a TFL victim had a benefit. It kept me free of marriage, divorce, seizure of assets, alimony and child support. I paid off my home and got totally debt free. Now it only takes about 30% of my take home pay to cover all my spending (on everything) for the month. That leaves about 2700 a month extra. What do I do with the excess? I'm saving for a house on a couple acres. I want a big garden.
vention4wh 3 weeks ago
LOL LACI, you women don't sympathize with unattractive men. you guys ridicule unattractive when they display confidence. cut the bull crap. at the end of the day you females open your legs to the best looking guy you can get regardless of personality. you use stuff like"creepy" and "attitude" to reject unattractive men when the reality is you are rejecting them for being unattractive.
GameIsLooks 3 weeks ago
its funny how there are so many men that have to go to third world countries and go to bullshit ass pua boot camps to try to get one person into their life. how many women have to do that? ZERO. a woman can be overweight/fat/ugly and still have 50 guys ten times better looking than ready to date her.
GameIsLooks 3 weeks ago
@GameIsLooks
Exactly.
MrHav1k 3 weeks ago
@GameIsLooks
True. I want to live in the phillipines cause the women are awesome.
EWOKCAD 3 weeks ago
just use the picture of a male model on a dating site and you will see just how shallow these women are. any lame joke you say will be funny and any lame hobby you have will be viewed as interesting. the reason tfl exists is because women reject men in 1-5 seconds without getting to know them. even average/overweight/plain/UGLY females have more power and more pick in the dating scene than the average guy. women date UP in terms of looks and men date down (some don't even date at all!)
GameIsLooks 3 weeks ago
@GameIsLooks
TRuth. People need to realize what the fuck is really going on, and society has to change.
MrHav1k 3 weeks ago
This girl is a closet racist and wants an excuse to hate black people.
JamesTCA 1 month ago
Is it really so bad to be alone, focused on the goals you aspire to accomplish and without distraction? Maybe I'm just asexual but I see people with magnificent dreams in life that slowly dissolve with their progression of relationships.
But...in a forced loneliness scenario because of unattractiveness, don't wollo(it doesn't help the weight)... do more, want more and accomplish more for your own self. People may recognize you in different ways so ultimately, you don't have to be alone.
MarsStarcruiser 1 month ago
you are not supposed to judge a man for any reason until you have talked to one enough or gotten to know a man enough.
lyutsin21 1 month ago
I think that being able to wake up in the morning, and then TALK TO THE ENTIRE WORLD about anything, let alone doing it with bed head, sets a prime example of true self confidence. Live on, Lace Green.
alexdlocoa 1 month ago
It is really easy for me to visualize her skull when she talks ... it really freaked me out
MustacheManifest 2 months ago
For some reason, I think you look a bit like that lolwut pear...
j1mmyZeta 2 months ago
also, is it really an issue of personality that is being discussed as a factor that should be disregarded in interaction? i mean in the dating scene whether you go to bars, lounges, clubs, ect or its within normal places where people interact (school, work, hobby spots) your personality doenst really come out or is expressed enough for someone to judge it. i would figure its the outward appearance or whatnot and they just use the personality bit to cover it up.
JGvisions 2 months ago
i think what you mean to say is what will be the criteria for attraction for a person to be attracted to another person.
JGvisions 2 months ago
In the Western world this more true for men on the lower pecking order. If a man is short, less than attractive, shy, unsocial awkward, unmuscular, out of shape, lacking in materiel wealth, status and accomplishment he is likely destined to be alone for much of his adult life. We are animals- the female of the specie needs only the best genes and resources. In poor sexually liberated countries, the ugliest of men usually gets a wife. That is why people there are less attractive.
ibmsony101 2 months ago
For the less impressive male specimens: sorry, you are a lame horse and you do not get to stud. It is just your genetic fate. Life is inherently unfair. Some have all the luck, and they get to enjoy all that life has to offer- Others get to exist and not really live, enduring all the misery, the humiliation and deprivation that the world heaps on them while they watch others have the time of their life. Be pragmatic about it; do what you can to improve your lot in the world and live a little!
ibmsony101 2 months ago
Someone who makes me laugh trumps looks anyday.
offwiththefairies77 2 months ago
End of the day I don't judge other females on just looks, but I can tell just by looking at them for 2 seconds that there not worth trying to chat up becaue all girls look the same these days. Fake tan and a gormless fucking look on their face.
1979mrbanana 2 months ago
u should join the movement, looks like ur sittin up in ur room all alone with a webcam :( I wont judge you
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martinmrhappy 3 months ago
It's all a game. Can you really blame people for being ignorant and socialized? You can't change the world, so the way your ranked in society and your relationships with people are based on how well you play this game. Up till now this is all I can say about relationships. You need to also know the difference between people you can be honest with and those you can't. Everyone is so different..
vanilmaya 3 months ago
u are so spot on. I can't judge by personality? I thought that is how we are supposed to judge ppl. i know fuck looks and what they have, but fuck if they a good, well rounded person too? not gonna digest that!
omarlives 3 months ago
laci, it's not true. tons of guys have lots of confidence but it doesn't create attraction. if you are tall and hot, you don't have to love yourself. the dates fall in your lap. google this "the myth of confidence" and you will find an excellent forum post on HappierAbroad which explains why confidence is a vague term and why it has to be based on something real. also see steve hoca's video on youtube debunking "the secret". what he says is totally true and not politically correct like you are.
HappierAbroadTV 3 months ago 7
@HappierAbroadTV
That's a great post you just linked to!
MrHav1k 3 months ago
@HappierAbroadTV
Of course we should all turn to a human trafficker to just send us a prostitute from a third world country, she will no doubt be an accomplished actress and pretend to be madly in love with you for a shot at those magic immigration papers.
Human trafficking is a growing problem and should be reported to the authoritys.
shf84 2 months ago
girl, you ought to fix your hair first before doing a video. you look like you just got out of bed and forgot to comb your hair. lol
HappierAbroadTV 3 months ago
lacigreen, can you check out my site and movement, which addresses similar problems that the TFL movement does, but offers a real solution instead? The link is HappierAbroad dot c o m. Maybe you can do a video on it? Thanks, Winston
HappierAbroadTV 3 months ago
women often lie that there are no good men out there. but the truth is, they know a ton of good men out there. but they just don't fit their ideal high standard type. you should see steve hoca's latest interview about how disabled women still have dating choices and guys who want to marry them, but disabled men have no chance at all? lacigreen, how do you explain that? you can't deny that the american dating scene is highly unfair, can you?
HappierAbroadTV 3 months ago 3
Disabled women still have vaginas. A vagina, even on a double amputee, still has a a value, even if it is subconsciously perceived by male suitors. Women are programmed to seek the best genes that they can find and also look for resources. Women in the West have enough materiel wealth to be very picky about who they can allow in their lady parts. Result: low tier men are sexually barred and population genetics improve!
ibmsony101 2 months ago
@ibmsony101 this is absolutely why men should lie to women in order to bed them and move on if you come across a woman like this and leave her not only should you not feel guilty you should definately consider it a service to the next man and possibly point a few of your friends her way so they can have a go at her as well,, since we are low tier studs, then lieing about wealth and deceiving her should be considered a good strategy until she doesnt think she can get any better...
fixt100 2 months ago
@fixt100 Would you believe that men have went to jail for a new crime called "Rape by Deception" whereby if you lied to a woman to get her to sleep with you when she would otherwise have not done so, then you are a rapist. Yes it is bullshit considering how deceptive women are! I advise that you do not lead a woman on who knows where you live or she can potentially fuck up your life. Get an escort if you can afford it instead!
ibmsony101 2 months ago
@ibmsony101 i wouldnt even pay for a hotel room much less give her the real name,, that "crime" is only recognised in some states and the judges admited the sex was consenting in the few cases posted so guys out there check your state laws first to be safe k. i have seen women jump ship at the first sign of an upgrade so often that it doesnt even shock me anymore so i get my male friends to try and get them away from me every chance they get and if they get em they let me know(cont)
fixt100 2 months ago
@ibmsony101 (cont) this is great because i find out about the woman, my buddy gets a "free" ride and when she thinks she has a guy lined up he dumps her on her ass and its all on her own doing, just amazing the good feeling you get from it i cannot tell you...
fixt100 2 months ago
@ibmsony101 but hey women should be pragmatic about it too right? giving out a free one every once in a while and all that lols.....
fixt100 2 months ago
women don't flirt to get a man, they do it to boost their own ego. men and women don't emotionally connect. women are not truly romantic. they are just playing around. I've met far more romantic men than women. why do you think women don't mind if there is a third person tagging along with them on a date, whereas men do? the only person a woman truly loves is her child, not man.
HappierAbroadTV 3 months ago
@HappierAbroadTV How true. In America, women are more interested in how much money a man makes rather then how romantic he is. Studies have shown that American women are some of the least flirtacious women in the world! A lot of women in America don't even make eye contact with men, they would prefer to meet guys through their friends.
jamesbond007hot 3 months ago
A woman? wont suffer in the dating game until one of 2 things happen . 1. western civilization ends, or 2. The world run out of resources to power modern technology. You see women where giving the thing between her legs to counter a man's strength. Since a man's strength is no longer a plus in the western society he becomes the weaker sex. A woman on the other hand can still use what nature gave her as a power a man can't use his strength so he has no bargaining chip but to obtain riches.
sirstrong1st 3 months ago
The dude is morbidly obese, unintelligent, has no job, cusses every other word, always miserable, and lives at home with his parents at like 30 years old.
And he blames others for his situation?
Ninety9Soulz 3 months ago
I like your take on those guys, thelacepaste. Yes, they're a bit crazy and I disagree with most of what they say, but I cannot help but feel bad for them. I used to have terrible luck with dating and I understand their pain. That said, you're right about the victim mentality. It's stupid. Most guys in that situation can fix it. I took up bodybuilding, lost weight, gained lots of muscle, and a few years later, dating is unbelievably easy.
XenosSoundworks 3 months ago
@XenosSoundworks
you just proved the point they are trying to make " that it's all about looks" for women !!!!
SuperDuxun 3 weeks ago
@AdventureHayes well tell us those invisible skills then.
kambridge967 3 months ago
Some people(women and all the douchebag "alpha" guys on here) will NEVER understand.
MrHav1k 4 months ago 5
You are to young and therefore OUT of life experience and bigger picture to be listened up. Take your milk kiddy.
Freeindividua2 4 months ago 3
Women hold ALL the power in the dating game. ALL of it. That's why I find the fact that there are girls with low self esteem a complete mind fuck and a contradiction.
MrHav1k 4 months ago 15
@MrHav1k Women don't hold all the power. A man canb date whomever he wants.
upabittoolate 2 months ago
@upabittoolate I am sorry, but I must respectfully disagree, as far as dating is concerned women hold all the power as they are choosers and gatekeepers of relationships and sex, not men.
InspectorMontelbano1 3 weeks ago
My friend, I've turned down more women than I've had. The woman I have now (whom I hope to marry eventually) was my choice.
If it's just about pussy, I can't tell you how many times I've heard, "Jim, don't you see me throwing it at you?" & my reply has been, "you won't be the 1st or last so calm down". Ultimately, you need to man up & get your game up. When you do, you'll find that the act of choosing is yours. When you want something deeper, you'll find that it's shared mutually.
upabittoolate 3 weeks ago
@upabittoolate Firstly I am glad to hear that you are in a happy relationship, and I hope it all goes well for you and your partner. That said, the only reason you have been able to turn down more women, than women turn you down is because you are a tall, dark and handsome man that most women want. If you lost out in the genetics lottery like I did, then you are a beggar, not a chooser.
InspectorMontelbano1 3 weeks ago
@InspectorMontelbano1 My friend, looks only get a man through the door. A relationship takes effort, compromise, hope & luck. It's not just my looks that keep her & me together. I'm broke as a joke. I'm not always the world's nicest person. But I am good with my hands. I fix the car. I replace busted pipes at her rental property. I shovel the snow. Also, I serve a good dad for her young daughter.
Plenty of guys are good-looking. Substance is what's paramount.
upabittoolate 3 weeks ago
@InspectorMontelbano1 Ultimately, what I'm saying is that, as a man, you have to recognize the power you have & figure the best way to harness it. When you do, you'll find that "substance" about which I was talking. It's not easy. (repeat) It's NOT EASY. But it's 1 of those moments we all come to in our lives that define us. Not all men are handsome or rich. But all men have power. That power is worthy. YOU are worthy. Stop selling yourself so short all the time. You're getting in your own way.
upabittoolate 3 weeks ago
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@MrHav1k: Women hold ALL the power in the dating game? Seriously? So, have you gotten that sex change, yet?
VioletTigress 4 weeks ago
@MrHav1k don't waste your time arguing with these dumbass shallow women bro. all these women use are "ad hominem" attacks like you need "confidence" or "who wants a guy with that attitude." the reality is, they give 2 shits about attitude and have no problem opening their legs nice and wide to a handsome guy. when a woman says she wants a man with confidence it means she wants a good looking guy to approach her not an ugly one.
GameIsLooks 3 weeks ago
@MrHav1k all women do is use "shaming tactics" but they will NEVER EVER ADMIT they are rejecting men for superficial reasons.
GameIsLooks 3 weeks ago
@MrHav1k its good to know more guys like you know the truth. another thing, isnt it funny how the one gender who dont do ANYTHING IN THE DATING scene is giving males advice. the only thing women have to do, is take their pick from all the lonely desperate men out there. we all know the advice women give can't be taken for face value. they will always make themselves try to sound "unshallow" but at the end of the day they sleep with the best looking guy they can get.
GameIsLooks 3 weeks ago
This is more true of women. Even the ugly girls get hit on all the time and they become fucking picky and bitchy as shit, and there's nothing you can do about it. Not tall? Can't do shit about it. Not rich, you can kinda do something about that, but its luck based. Not good looking? lol. You're fucked! Women can be picky as fuck!!!
Basically if you're not born attractive, youre fucked.
MrHav1k 4 months ago 15
@MrHav1k Ugly women don't get hit on all the time.
upabittoolate 2 months ago
@MrHav1k As a fat chick (fat = ugly in the us) I can say no, we do not get hit on a lot nor am I, at least or any of the fat girls I know, picky and bitchy when it comes to dating. Every relationship I have had except one, I have had to pursue myself. Just wanted to say that. I think most TFLs have such incredibly high standards that the women they view as ugly are actually at least 4s or 5s since I've heard them call famous actresses average.
HeatherC19 2 months ago
@HeatherC19
Not buying it at all. Bullshit! You contradicted yourself big time
MrHav1k 2 months ago
@MrHav1k No, thats my honest opinion. I've never spoken to a TFL, incel, or loveshy guy that was NOT a hateful prick who only went after very attractive women. Not one. And I've tried, because I used to feel really bad for them, having been in the same situation for many years. Except as a woman, you may get attention but 95% of the attention is just going after an easy lay so you have to be cautious or you get fucked over literally. But, I don't care whether you "buy it" or not.
HeatherC19 2 months ago
@HeatherC19
LOL. I thought you said you didn't get hit on? Typical female bullshit. Every argument you have made has been picked apart by TFL. These men don't have high standards, they have NO standards, they have no standards because they have no choice. Women have choice, men don't unless they're in the top % of attractive men. That top 5% that you actually give the time of day since you have the power to reject the other 95%...
You have in attempting to disprove TFL, proved them right.
MrHav1k 2 months ago 12
@MrHav1k I can't know the experience of my female friends? I've had 3 relationships, only one came to me, the others I had to seek. That doesn't mean that I don't talk, however. And actually, I said nothing about the lower 95%, I said 95% of attention women get is just looking for sex and nothing else. Women cannot indulge those men because if they do GUESS WHAT they're a slut and they're STILL SEEN AS WRONG. It has nothing to do with looks it has to do with what the man wants.
HeatherC19 2 months ago
@HeatherC19
LOL. Even more BS!
If its all about sex for the men, then how come women ALWAYS have more sexual partners than men? Answer that.
MrHav1k 2 months ago
@MrHav1k And, nothing to do with money or other BS either. If you approach a woman looking for casual sex, unless she is ALSO looking for casual sex and you are the type she wants to fuck, she'll decline. At bars, clubs, women are not usually looking to find a date. They want to have fun and probably get drunk and some of them wanna do something they'll regret the next day... just like guys, really. But, you have your head so far up your ass you wont see anything but your delusions.
HeatherC19 2 months ago
@HeatherC19 And to be completely honest I think it is due to ridiculous standards that the U.S society has instilled in its citizens..moreso with its women. Which was factor that pushed me away from the U.S to IE. Not to mention my Irish woman is nothing like her sisters in the states..which was just another bonus.
DeadSleepers 1 month ago
@MrHav1k Maybe, just maybe, if you stopped having a massive persecution complex about everything you could see beyond your own twisted mind and realize the world is a little deeper than the TFL armchair psychoanalysts have described it to be. Its not all about money, or looks, or sex. I don't factor any of that stuff in when I ask myself "do I wanna date this guy or not". What I do ask myself is "do I enjoy his company" "is he trustworthy" and "do we have enough in common"
HeatherC19 2 months ago
@HeatherC19
Those questions only come up after you've found the man physically attractive enough to even be worth your time. WOMEN CHOOSE, MEN DONT. THIS IS FACT
MrHav1k 2 months ago
@MrHav1k Sex is a bonus- it's not required. I can replace sex. Money is a bonus too. I can make money myself. Looks are pretty irrelevant. But men, in the US and in other countries, always bitch about sex, money, and looks when it comes to women. Why? Why cant these guys realize the problem isn't everyone else and everything else its THEM? If you're a hateful person, with nothing but anger on your mind all the time who on earth would enjoy your company?
HeatherC19 2 months ago
@HeatherC19
You really don't get it.
MrHav1k 2 months ago
@MrHav1k All the contact I've had with TFL/Incel/Loveshy the men are hateful and spiteful and want to blame everyone else and even the world itself for their problems. There's a word for that and its called IRRESPONSIBLE. Then they go throw tantrums there's a word for that too, CHILDISH. No woman wants a serious relationship with an irresponsible childish motherfucker. You can't build a home with that. You can't enjoy that company.
HeatherC19 2 months ago
@MrHav1k And for the record... just for the record... I think if anyone ever did hit on me I would be too flattered to worry about what it was they wanted. Even the relationship that did come to me, the guy didn't really hit on me. We were friends and he asked me out. I've never gotten an out of the blue "you're pretty" or "can I have your number". I don't think I ever will either. But I'm ok with that because I'm ok with myself. I can enjoy my own company. You guys, apparently, can not
HeatherC19 2 months ago
@HeatherC19
You seriously don't understand. Women just don't fucking get it.
/watch?v=oev1fzSnddo
MrHav1k 2 months ago
@MrHav1k They only come up once the guy is worth my time? I already told you attractiveness has nothing to do with it. You're the one that doesn't get it. As for why women have more partners... we make more mistakes before finding the right one. A man will gladly tell you he loves you and will marry you just to bed you and leave you the next day, when you have to start over.
HeatherC19 2 months ago
@HeatherC19 American women seem to make the same mistake it seems if what you are saying is true. If looks didn't matter then you wouldn't see a staggering amount of women with pretty playboy type..and even us men can tell that he is playing you. Due to this we now have the Single mother epidemic.
DeadSleepers 1 month ago
@MrHav1k For whatever reason, you lot just don't love yourselves. And before that happens you'll never get love from anyone else who isn't looking to hurt you. And well, no I don't understand. This isn't gravity, I can't hold my water bottle out over the floor, drop it and say "well there it is", this is an abstract concept made up by men to suit their arguments that the whole world is out to punish them.
HeatherC19 2 months ago
@MrHav1k But the more I think about it, maybe you've all done something deserving of punishment. TFL/Incel/Loveshy as I said have always been hateful to me and to those I know, even other men. Maybe there's just something wrong with you. If the world IS out to get you by some odd chance I'd have to say I'm siding with the world on this one.
HeatherC19 2 months ago
@HeatherC19 What's funny is that all the time that I have lived here in IE, I have NEVER heard of the TFL movement and even throughout my travel in EU. The relationship dynamic in America is in ruins. I've seen some TFL vids and yes I sense some bitterness but to an extent they have a point. Problem is women just dismiss it all as bitterness which doesn't help anyone.
DeadSleepers 1 month ago
@HeatherC19 Total and utter BULLSHIT!!, men who suffer from TFL are not hateful and bitter, they are just men whose only "crime", in the eyes of you shallow women, is that they are not "hot" enough.
InspectorMontelbano1 3 weeks ago
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@InspectorMontelbano1 You can be the biggest asshole to women as long as you have looks they will put up with it!
GameIsLooks 3 weeks ago
@MrHav1k Someone who understands what's going on.
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riki9999 2 weeks ago
@MrHav1k A man ALWAYS has a choice. Anyone who says otherwise is full of shit.
upabittoolate 1 day ago
@upabittoolate
No. Only the top % of men have "choice." Its always up to the woman on whether or not anything goes forward.
MrHav1k 1 day ago
@MrHav1k Horseshit. You just don't have enough game to choose. That's on you, my friend. I'm kind, handsome, tall, intelligent & witty. I'm also broke to the extent that I couldn't give a crippled crab a crutch in a forest of trees. That hasn't stopped me from having my say in what women I deal with. In fact, it's all the more reason to have more say-so. What's YOUR problem? Are you so self-defeated that you can't see the truth?
upabittoolate 1 day ago
@upabittoolate
No shit you're going to have "game," when you're tall and good looking. That's all game is. Women will rationalize everything you do if you're good looking enough, that's why girls date douchebags and serial killers. Game = looks. PUA is BULLSHIT, you're just brainwashed like all the other mangina men.
MrHav1k 1 day ago
@MrHav1k "Mangina" is a word used by lonely lowlifes who can't get a date. Irrespective of that fact, your premise that women hold all the cards presupposes that you, yourself, are not empowered. Game isn't about looks. Why do I say that? Because I can personally name 30 men, whom I know, that aren't rich or handsome or brilliant, that get their pick of the ladies. Why? Because they've mastered the art of finessing a woman. Stop whining. Step your game up.
upabittoolate 20 hours ago
@upabittoolate
And I have 1,000,000+ examples to the contrary of that. "Art?" those PUA cunts really fucked up your head, theres no art to attraction, you're either good looking or you're not. Looks matter. Just Youtube search for "When Ugly guys attack," or "don't date ugly guys." You don't hear about good looking guys going to PUA bootcamps and learning game do you? Its all bullshit.
MrHav1k 19 hours ago
@MrHav1k You don't have 1M examples. The only person here with a fucked up head is the guy who's so uptight about getting a date that he exaggerates data & uses "mangina". Looks do NOT matter all the time. You must be hideous looking to the degree that you're mad at your M&P for doing such a bad job of breeding. Sad. But it's not the end of the world. Step your game up.
upabittoolate 19 hours ago
@MrHav1k Honestly I think the people who think this way have major psychological issues WITH THEMSELVES and they need to get over those before they even think about being with anyone else. Oh, and if you're saying the contradiction is me being bitchy? I specifically said "when it comes to dating". I have no concern for being polite to some macho man wannabe on the internet who'd probably whimper like a pup if it came time to back those big words up.
HeatherC19 2 months ago
For 1, I bet your weight isn't as bad as you let on. 2ndly, I bet you do get hit on (kudos for keeping your swagger up). You're correct that TFLers have an unrealistic expectations. I'm not bragging but I've been called "move star". I've had plenty of "ugly" girls though (my mother always jokes that I'm better looking than my gfs). Why? Because I'm not shallow to the point where I'm hung up on something so arbitrary. It's about how you make each other feel. It's about the real intimacy.
upabittoolate 19 hours ago
@MrHav1k right on, women also call ugly guys "creepy" to justify their shallowness but if a handsome displays the same type of behavior it is viewed as bold and confident. women are PICKIER when it comes to looks than men are. women are only attracted to the stop percentage of men (even if they are average themselves) You got obese bbw women who are considered "sexy" and attractive. these women have no problem dating thin men but the same can't be said for obese men.
GameIsLooks 3 weeks ago
Those guys are fucking nuts. If you can't find a mate than that's life. I don't have a girl friend either, I don't mesh well with women because I don't shair most peoples world view, women are interested in me but I can't really ever connect with them because my personality is about 5 degrees off from most people. But SO WHAT some peole can't walk or see WTF have I got to complane about?
shf84 4 months ago
@shf84 it is not life. it is an elite agenda to destroy the gender lines. in most of the world, it is NOT like that, and not that hard to get a girlfriend. I have a ton of proof of that. learn about the true solution to TFL at HappierAbroad dot c o m. come take a look at it. it is more unique and deeper than any other dating site.
HappierAbroadTV 3 months ago
@shf84 True fella.
1979mrbanana 2 months ago
Laci FAR EXCEEDS standards of beauty
Thinkdeep420 4 months ago
How did i get from Sponsers to here ._. ?
DTMinecrafting 4 months ago
While you were explaining it i was just nodding my head in dull agreement until you started talking about how you disagreed.
what dose this mean?
it means i'll listen to anything if its said assertively.and thats a very bad thing..
Narutopivotz 4 months ago
What if you are attractive, but are a TFL anyways?
Explain that one to me. Also what you are not getting is that they are saying to judge a person based on their character. Not their money, or looks (too much at least,) ect...
I dare anyone to write a hostile comment in response to this because this shit is about to degenerate into a full scale gender war. Feminists do you really want to see who the superior sex is? K LMK bitches.
hamberg42 4 months ago
Oh it's true. And often for guys who aren't that bad looking.
In my case I was an utter reject when I was young. It broke my heart and when it healed it healed wrong. Now even though my appearance and my wealth level have improved dramatically, I don't have the desire to dive into that pit of vipers again. I became solitary to the point where a girlfriend is a disruption. Every time I get a girlfriend, I feel confined and trapped. I'm not really happy again until she dumps me.
vention4wh 4 months ago
2. It's too bad really. I would have made an excellent husband. And money? Well I've got a family wage job on a single man's expenses. Now that my home and all my debts are paid off, it only takes about 30% of my take home pay to cover all my spending (ON EVERYTHING) for the month. That leaves about 2500 a month sitting in the checking account, until I transfer it into my investments or buy a big laptop or something.
Whoever my soul mate was got a raw deal.
She'll have to find her own way.
vention4wh 4 months ago 3
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@vention4wh my position exactly.
sirstrong1st 3 months ago
you do not get it... some of them are lonely due to how society is toward them. Society does place a lot of value into looks and status. I myself know that for a fact, I was single for year and was a virgin for a really long time. Even if my career and educative goals were always important for me, work in Education and have a BA now and going towards an MA, that did not mattered at all for a lot of women i met in my life, and I am 29 years old now.
rgchrono 4 months ago
con: I have a gf now, but only after going through all of the BS of the female gender did I realized that most women are shallow and most women are hypocrites. This one rule made me learn to not care so much about having a gf, but to enjoy it once I do. I still believe how society is and how women are and how TFL may be true for some males out there. But society has made it so that us as a society looks as people who are going through it as weak or weird
rgchrono 4 months ago
This girl wouldn't understand. Just look at her, she's what most people in society considers beautiful. What a bitch!
crs9128 4 months ago
have they ever heard of prostitutes, jesus christ
onceIpoopedmyself 4 months ago
Sorry your kindness has drawn the ire of these douchebags who think they can be fat, smelly, angry and idolize serial killers and still find a woman who likes them.
I want to tell you that they don't represent all men and to keep being a kind and generous person....but you seem grounded enough to realize that anyway.
billybobbobertson 5 months ago
This girl hit the nail right on the head.
cockzilla13 5 months ago
@cockzilla13 Bullshit!!, women give the worst possible dating advice, do you want to know why? Because when it comes to dating, female words don't match their actions. Classic example, wome say they prefer nice men, but who do they spread their legs for in an instant? BAD BOYS AND THUGS. I rest my case.
InspectorMontelbano1 5 months ago
*can't feel
DejaVoodooDoll 5 months ago
And that's why I can feel as much empathy as you can. for these "forever alone" guys.
Their loneliness is due to the fact that refuse to see an individual when they see a woman. They're more in love with being in love, they lust after sex...
Underneath it all, they have nothing to offer, and they want someone else to do all the hard work of making a relationship happen.
That's a full time babysitting job, not a fairy tale...
DejaVoodooDoll 5 months ago 4
@DejaVoodooDoll No, you are wrong, very wrong, many TFL/"forever alone guys" are alone often through no fault of their own. I have lived TFL my virtually my entire life (I am 42), and there's not much I can do if women reject me instantly because of my looks and perceived race. You also falsely assume TFL/lonely men do nothing with regards to making a relationship happen, which is total bullshit because I know many TFL men who have endured humdreds, even thousands of rejections.
InspectorMontelbano1 5 months ago
@InspectorMontelbano1 so true, plus, american women hate asian guys and any guy under 5ft 9 will be friend zoned or ignored. women are hypocrites for sure. they always say they like a nice guy with a good personality, but in reality they reject such guys unless they are tall and hot. so in their actions, it is definitely all about looks. total hypocrisy. there's no denying it. women never win debates on this topic, cause they have no defense. come visit the HappierAbroad website.
HappierAbroadTV 3 months ago
@DejaVoodooDoll what are you supposed to offer? not money, financial stability, PUA game, swagger, confidence, material items and all the bullshit society crams down our throats, aren't you supposed to have yourself, as a person, to offer? I always thought a relationship was based on 2 people, and who they were, not what they had.
inconvenientruth1 2 months ago
I'm not attractive. I'm been torn apart for it, whenever I dare to step outside.. Nobody will hire me, due to my health problems.
I have a girlfriend. Her name is Adrianne. She was in a dark place when we met, and swears I saved her life. Maybe it's true. Who knows? All I know is that seeing her light up when she sees me, takes me out of my dark place. She scares me in all the right ways. She plans to save the world. Supervillainess and superheroine in one.
I am truly blessed.
DejaVoodooDoll 5 months ago
So true. Most of these TFL want to be loved for no goddamn reason. Sorry but people love others for not only their character but what they can bring to the relationship. If you don't have a stable future that most women look for then you can't be surprised when they leave.
Also cultivate friendships for the sake of companionship. Find others interested in the things you like. So maybe then you won't be so lonely.
MissMaggieDynamo 5 months ago
@MissMaggieDynamo Typical female shaming language, what the fuck would you know about being lonely? I know lots of decent men (and I am one of them) who are living TFL, Involuntary Celibacy whatever you want to call it, and just like you women, us men we feel the need to be loved too. As men we are damned if we do, and damned if we don't, as a man if you try and meet women and get rejected , you get shamed, but of you give up like many TFLers, youl get shamed. Us men can't win with you women.
InspectorMontelbano1 5 months ago
@MissMaggieDynamo that's total BS. I know tons of people, including myself, that had great careers, but women never liked us for it. it never created attractions. it's all about looks and height. you can't deny that. it's so obvious.
HappierAbroadTV 3 months ago
Some guys like me are always gonna be alone and ignoed by everyone(not just women in my case). I know that I don't have anything to offer, that I am lazy, ugly, broke and not fun to be around people.
I guess what I am saying is, try to be a little more understanding. I know that no one will accept me, and I don't ask for acceptance. I just ask for you not to mock us so much, cuz we didn't do you wrong.
Just be happy that you are not on our place.
Regenesis08 5 months ago
I will say, however, that people should keep trying, even if they don't succeed, at maintaining good relationships and attracting romantic partners. It's fine to judge people on their personality as long as a.) you don't create scripts in your mind and expect potential romantic partners to follow them 100%, as this is extremely cruel and narcissistic, or b.) judge people too quickly, as many people put on airs, making this an extremely judgmental/stupid thing to do.
Hope this helps.
KhagarBalugrak 5 months ago
Judge people based on their ethics and morality, and secondarily, their personality. Seek people you have alot in common with.
Also, how does personal empowerment make other people like you? It's not true at all that being empowered and loving yourself makes you attractive to others. Often, empowerment becomes pushiness and loving yourself degenerates into narcissism, both of which are extremely unattractive. You have no right to say that we have no right to complain about the dating scene.
KhagarBalugrak 5 months ago
Yeah well gurl, it might be disenpowering. But if you ever went +20 years of not having romantic companionship I'd like to see how self-confident you'd be. It is very hard, I don't even belong to that movement or whatever. But being alone causes psychological damage to people, I know so. As a girl you probably won't be able to understand this. For most girls "being alone" means breaking up with their boyfriend and spending 2 or 3 months untill getting a new one, with casual sex in between.
bbbbbb222222 5 months ago
Some people are genuinely unpleasant to be around. There are people who treat others like shit then actually wonder why no one wants them around.
I go by the saying treat others how you would like to be treated. 90% of the time it works.
witchbloodgirl 6 months ago
@witchbloodgirl Oh the irony is killing me!!!, ironically the men who do treat women like shit ie. the bad boys,thugs,wife bashers etc, seem to be the most successful at attracting women, care to explain that one?
InspectorMontelbano1 5 months ago
@InspectorMontelbano1
because women are shallow !!!!
SuperDuxun 3 weeks ago
@witchbloodgirl that's not true. most men treat women like princesses, but are taken for granted and dumped or ignored. women do NOT emotionally connect with men. they feel nothing when they dump a guy. they turn off their feelings like a light switch.
HappierAbroadTV 3 months ago
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CURE TO TFL: diet, crunches, push-ups, playing an instrument,sport,doing art... something awesome and cool, good clothes, good hair or a hat to cover your bald spot, going out and REALLY trying to get girls with the best appearance and best confident demeanor and interesting personality you can muster. WOMAN ARE AWESOME I'm a twenty year old virgin but I'm not gunna blame women for my shortcomings, women are smart, hot, kind and awesome when you talk to the right ones.
Ihatemyusernamemore 6 months ago
Very good report! I've been burned by love more than my fair share but you know what? I didn't give up. I'm not a handsome fellow, not rich by any means, but I have a personality. The members of this "TFL movement" expect for someone to love them without actually putting in any effort to love anyone else. They don't try to fix their situation, they give up. This is no way to live! If you think you'll be alone forever then congratulations, you get your wish!
sdwilliams777 6 months ago
@sdwilliams777 I am not a member of the TFL group, but most of what they say (bar the conspiracy theries), is bang on the money. I have been living TFL my whole life (I am 42), and I know many hardworking decent men who have busted their arses trying to meet women, only to be shot down in a hail of self esteem detroying rejection through no fault of their own. I am trying to cure my TFL by going to the gym, and I am now in good shape, the problem is women reject me instantly because I am ugly.
InspectorMontelbano1 5 months ago
@sdwilliams777 that's not true. good looking tall guys get dates in america without even trying, even if they don't want it. plus, come in other countries, ugly guys can get girlfriends? explain that.
HappierAbroadTV 3 months ago 3
Lace...LOL how many channels do you have? the videos I've seen from you are good though!
AJB861 6 months ago
There is an android obeast clone attack going on calling it genesis some ugly fat android clone woman having skiny children--no man would dare fuck them they kill our beautiful woman and replace them with this new death form clone they think is life. Life from fat death! SEE REPTILIANS LEADERS ON UTUBE.
inspectorcritic 6 months ago
I have been left behind by my former friends and still remain a virgin at 36 years of age. I do feel TFL exists because although, I have a wide array intersts from sciences to having fun in the outdoors, I find the skill of making friends and finding a girlfriend very elusive to me. Many people never get to know me because of my social anxiety and they perceive me as a loser. Which is why I post many videos about my activities on youtube, although some may seem retarded.
RB902050 6 months ago
@RB902050
have you considered hiring a sex worker? i know some people find it distasteful but its better than sexual suffocation. i know its not about sex alone. its about the feeling of being desired as well but you can atleast create that delusion every now and then.
runtodahills 6 months ago
@runtodahills Actually my issue lies with unresolved childhood attachment issues due to malparenting. TFL in my sense is as a result of not having adequate social skills, not with the being burned by love/women like many people say. In a matter of weeks I will be having oral surgery. In the upcoming months, I will be doing some first descents on my skis, and also going for my degree. Really the only thing that would force me into lonliness is my age. We live in a sociey fixated on youth.
RB902050 6 months ago
Im not american and Im living with TFL...
I consider myself a great person... but True Forced loneliness is a real concept i believe in now... regardless of what i do or try I always end up alone.
ive gotten so used to it it doesn't hurt anymore.
snoonz 6 months ago
If you go talk to people outside of the U.S. they'll tell you. Western women are shit. Theyre shallow and ignorant and superficial. In a sad way, they dont even realize they're like this. For instance, they would try to break down an idea about forced loneliness when they know that all a woman has to do is put on tight jeans and sit at a bar and batt her eyelashes and she doesnt have to be lonely does she? And yet she would mock them. In the end, women will line up to be abused by the assholes.
sheffieldmvp 6 months ago
Guess what girls. Men DO NOT like liberal women. If you bought into that whole liberal, feminist garbage and stick with it, more than likely you will wind up being a lesbian or will grow old woth 30 or more cats as your friends. Men have not changed in tens of thousands of years and we still want a submissive woman who completes us, but doesnt dominate us. You can still be strong and empowered socially while maintaining a form of submission to your man. You must nurture his spirit and his ego.
Tbow088 6 months ago
I doubt you know anything about loneliness or losing in the dating game, but you're absolutely correct in your criticism. Sexual selection does not abide by fairness, justice, or compassion.
gtrgy888 6 months ago
thank you its realy interesting topic
adamrain12346 7 months ago
interesting... now get your gums around my plums
yours sincerely,
ladies man.
sweetypie000 7 months ago
no one said dont judge personality in fact get to know that shy guy who carries your books read the poems guys send you women ignore nice guys and only go for the guys who are hard core prisioner bad asses and then they have the gaul to get mad at how men abuse them well maby if you dident date bad asses and give nice guys a shot you wouldent get abused
legend956 7 months ago