RE: These Conspirators are very funny – stupid clowns and transparent inventors of new history and fair-tales. Bulgarians are regarded as Türkic Scythians/Huns, but at the same time are regarded as Slavs. First Russians considered themselves as descendants of the Scandinavians, but since they did not have use of this pseudo theory, they switched into Slavs in order to get political power and get a foot on Balkans – for claiming purposes. Speaking of PATHETIC!!
RE: I was speaking of old history – not modern Albania. You question is interesting, how Albanians got here on Balkan? I believe they came here with Proto-Bulgarians who lived in many places on earth, among others in Caucasus, who returned back Balkans. Proto-Bulgarians, were called there among others ALBANS.
And people do change. Modern Bulgarians are not same as old Bulgarians. Some say, that Albanians came from Anatolia during the Ottoman period.
@spa05akw LOL that is a big fat lie,,We dont have nothing incommon with turks lol This is a big lie form others who hate the fact that albanians still speak there old language,,Greeks have loss there language,macedonians,thracians,But albanians are still the only people in balkans who still speak old language that is because they are protected from other because of mountains,And in albanian culture it is aa discrace to mix your blood,And when you are a child you sit down and they teach tradition
RE: Some say that Romanians are Turkish Gypsies from Turkey. Though, I am confused about Valahs. Valah is same as SHEPHARD and it is difficult to say about ethnicity. Bulgarians who were shephards were also called Vlahs. Rom-ania sounds to me like ROMA (Gypsy) and there existed no Romania before the 19th c. AD! And they are definitely not Romans from Rom. All Romans were KICKED OUT from Balkans by Bulgars when they fought with them and took back territories that Romans invaded.
(chick), cher (black), chetiri (4), dar (gift), deva (virgin), dim (smoke), do (to/till), dolu (down), dobr (good), drugar (fellow, friend), glas (voice), grub (rough), hrana (food), ida (go/come), istina (truth), kapan (trap)…etc.
edene (food), dom (house), hora (people), retch (speech), as/az (I), baba (grandmother/grandparents), bəbrek (kidney), bera (pick), bistra (clear), Bog/Bag (God), breza (birch), brit (razor), buria (storm), tri (3), na (to/off), nad (above), buza
@spa05akw BABA is a turkish word,for father in albanian,,baba is turkish i think..Yes i have that word and so does greece.bera means made in albanian/.breza means generation.buria means hornes..tri means three but it is latin.Roman.Na mean to us.Or us..BUZA MEANS EDGE..
.albanian po a i ene as ne rene ati...ti a nis koa pa i a do me an ti leu i.The vessel is not in the fallen father//ti a nis koa pa i a do me an ti leu i.to a Coalition launches without a will to be an anointed of...POɅӏΣΤΕΝΕΑΣΝΕΡΕΝΕΑΤӏΛΤΕΑΝΗΣΚΟΑPAΙΕAΔΟΜΕΑΝΤӏΛΕΙΥ.there is the albanian translation,,,I just broke the words down there is much albanian in there,anymore text,,
RE: Albanian in theThracian Ezerovo rings? Hahahahaahahahahahahaahah…. Dude, don´t ashame yourself. What does the text say then??????????????
RE: I said tha NA and NAS is same. Have you ever been to school? There is something called “root” in linguistics. And languages do modify and change in time. Everybody educated can tell you that, and everybody who goes to University.
NOU - NU - NI - NAS.... are basically same words. Bugar, Bulgar, Balgar, Palhar, Bolgar, Volgar, Vulgar... are also same. It is just phonetically modified. That means not that these are different words.
Partially is enough. It is not enough as historic evidence of the origin. The bridge of Thracian words into your Albanian language was Bulgarian. The real home of Albans was Caucasus. Bulgarians are Thraco-Illyrians.
@spa05akw Albans was Caucasus.bahahah did you know that these people speak diffrent to albanians,that there traditionas are diffrent,Everything is diffrent.In 2006 people studied this albanian place and they said clearly they are not same as modern albania,,did you also know that there they found the oldest standing orthodox church in the world there,,silly we are not from there,Tell me how if we are them how did we get here??with out any written history from others,,
ThracianChronicles, Biblia Bessica (written in Thraco-Bulgarian - Boharic) etc, were hidden from the public deliberatelly by Conspirators in order to erase the European Thracian Bulgarian history, by inventing non scientific theory about the imaginary Asian origin of the Bulgarians. There is no one Latin/Greek source saying that Bulgarians were newcomers from Asia. And There is a lot still hidden on purpose.
You may have some pseudo Thracian words, which were shared with the Illyrians. There is something called historically Thraco-Illyrians. Besides, Thracians spoke different languages/dialects.
@spa05akw tHAT IS ALL IM AM SAYING,,Im not saying im tracian at all,And you should not to,,,If ANYONE The romanians should,, the romanians language is and has way more thracian words in there language,,
Bulgarians are Thracians - not pseudo Romanians. The word Bulgarian on the old mapse is much OLDER. There exist no Romania before the 19th. c AD! Further, I have Thracian Chronicles written by Thracian themselves on 750 pages - so no Romanian lies can teach me fake history. Thracians speak for themselves who they were, and are Bulgarians. No Romanians, nor Greeks, have acces to Thracian Chronicles - published only in 2010.
There is not proof for your language is a bridge. You are NOT Thracians. Bulgarians ARE, and you copied the words from the Bulgarian language. Period. Get over it.
@spa05akw tell me how can we copy words from USE if THEY ARE DIFFRENT,WE USE THE WORDS STRAIT FROM THRACIANS,, YOU USE WORDS STEMING FROM THRACIAN,,I AM NOT SAYING WE ARE THRACIAN I AM JUST SAYING WE HAVE WORDS FROM THRACIANS NOT BULGARIANS THAT YOU DONT HAVE,FACT
@spa05akw Man i showed you just little we have 600 tracian words in our language,,Out of them we share with romanians that you dont have,,or anyone in the world..
@spa05akw Then if you know history and you are writing a book then you should study more because people will question you,,There is mant thracian words..
If you were Thracians, you would tell me what is written on the Thracian rings/text. Say WHAT??????????? You just know to say Blablalbla aa - no REFERENCES or logic EXPLANATIONS. Just Blablablabla...............
@spa05akw WE DONT USE CYRILIC.NOR DID USE UNTIL YOU ADOPTED IT FROM GREEKS,,,MY WHOLE LANGUAGE IS PIE,MY LANGUAGE IS OLDER THAN SHITTY BULGARIAN,YOU ARE A SLAVNIC COUNTRY WHO BORROWED AND WAS INFLUENCED BY GREEK AND MACEDONIAN,,PLEASE NEXT YOU WILL SAY MACEDONIA IS BULGARIAN
@spa05akw It doesnt matter what yr what matters is that the albaniansSpeak a dilect that is from ancient people of balkans,There traditions is ancient,,There scull caps ancinets wore..There fustenella is seen on walls in greece from the pelasgians,,,It is hard to say who albanians are because they share thracian,pelasgian,illyrian,and some estucan in there language,This is why the world is stunned,,All i see is that all these people influenced each other,,
@spa05akw This is why albanians have many words of ancient people.Have you seen words that are over 4000bc,,I will show you PRE INDO EURO in albanian language,,
I said, Cyrrilic is not from Greek! It is from ancient Bulgarians!!! Period.
Greeks adopted Bulgarians Cyrillic letters. It is the OPPOSITE!!!!!!!! Learn that. There exist no Greek or Latin letters - because they copied it from the Bulgarians. Cyrillic is Thracian from BC - not from AD.
MAKEDONIA IS INDEED BULGARIAN - ALWAYS HAVE BEEN AND WILL BE. And there were no SLAVS in BUlgaria. Slavic DOES NOT EXIST - only in the head of ignorant ppl. End of discussion.
I repeat: No GREEKS, no LATINS invented the letters. Bulgarian did in 4500 BC!! Hahah... Greeks (Africans) and Latins WERE NOT born YET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@spa05akw Are you see then what about pelasgians they are the mother of all in balkans,it is belived the pelasgians thracian illyrians spoke same language..dont tell me thracians are older than pelasgians because they are not,,
Bulgarians were Pelasgians - also Thracians. Threcian is a Federative/Collective name for all tribes. Thracians are direct descendants from the Biblical Noah who were destined to populate Europe and Anatolia. And Adam and Eve live in Bulgaria - so they are definitivelly OLDEST!
STOP DREAMING, Dude. You must have sources, references and logical eplanations. I do not believe what you say, because you say so. I can tell you, I am Mother Teresa resurected.
Also my cusin is a historian in language and culture and has a major in it,So what i have learned some comes from him,,he gets angry when i talk to people like you he tells me this,You worrie to much what people think about us and you forget who you are and your traditions this is a problem with the albanians now days,,He says who cares what people think just worrie about yourself and traditions,,
@ktm066 He is going to be elected in kosova goverment and he is already putting a stop to other trying to influece our language,Our language will be protected and teached in every school..what i mean by this is that there is 2 dilect gheg and tosk,,the greeks have assimulted tosks well some,,,There is a standard albanian and albania want one language ,But he is going to stop that and protect our language because most of our language is all pie,,we have words that pelasgians have thracian,have
There exist no Greek or Latin letters. Greeks and Latins copied the letters from the Bulgarians Thracians!!!!!!!!!! IT IS A BIG WORLD WIDE LIARS who say that there exist Greek or Latin letters.
These are also Bulgarian words: kinti, skivam, skimva, para, kelesh, kekav….
The word PAMET is not Albanian, but Thraco-Bulgarian. The proof for it is that it is also Egyptian. Thraco-Bulgarians were in Egypt – Albans not. Get over it. Further, modern Thracian was influenced by Latin – not by Albans. Bulgarian and Spanish, for example, share 2400 common words, of which some probably are also used by Albans.
@spa05akwAlbanians were in egypt fighting with alexandra the great,,Illyrians were influenced by latin,also romanians,also the whole world?dacians,thracians,you silly
For your information, not long ago Russians wanted from Bulgarians the Egeian zone (before Greeks stole it with the help of the Big Powers in a Piece Treaty), if Bulgarians wanted to get back Macedonia, but Bulgarians said NO. Russians threatened Bulgarians saying that both Macedonia and Egeian will not return to Bulgaria. And Russians played DIRTY role in cutting of Bulgaria. They are not friends robbers – a shit like Serbs. So Vikings turned to be Slavs.
I cannot chat more today, because I have a lot to do. I must proceed with writing my historical book. By the way, Thracians (i.e. Bulgarians) ruled Egypt, and there are preserved modern basic words in the ancient Egyptian. Aha, please write your Albanian words in Cyrillic. I do not know you phonetic pronounciation.
what about the word NE E ENE,these words are in albanians and also spoken by the ancient somarian..so how did albanians adopt that and how did these people speak it?where did they adopt it and who from?somarian is a old old language,,
this is what know one will ever know,How do you know that greeks didnt copy thracians or thracians didnt copy greek,or if greeks copyed illyrian or illyrian copyed greek well what i really mean pelasgian,or how do we know that greeks didnt copy albanian or albanian didnt copy greek,,or if bulgaria didnt copy thracian,,I dont claim any of these i just claim we have words that are thousands of yrs old that not many people speak anymore,,
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE ILLYRIAN?GAI E KAIE IE ANKTH LENE ITH HIRI E TE HAJRI...VERY INTERESTING ISNT IT ..WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE PELASGIAN NOW..YOU SEE THIS SHOWS THAT ALBANIANS HAVE BEEN AROUND MANY MANY YRS BECAUSE NONE OF THESE WORDS EXCIST IN ANY OTHER LANGUAGE SOME WORDS MAY,,BUT ALL OF THESE STILL SPOKEN EVERYDAY
THERE IS MANY MANY OF THOSE WORDS YOU SHOWED ME HAVE MEANING IN ALBANIAN I JUST HAVE TO SPACE THEM OUT AND IT GIVES ME MEANING,we also have MAL witch is a thracian word BANK OR MOUNTAIN..there is heaps we have,,
- Constantine the Great was Thracian (Bulgarian) and spoke domestic language which was not Latin or Greek. Byzantion was ancient Thracian city that gave name to the Eastern "Rom".
My friend hear your language!!!Bulgarian are a Slav-Turkish mix no history before Christ for that you can be sure because the name bulgaria comes from the turanian "Bulga" which means "mix" Bulgarians were a turkish tribe who first settled north of the Caspian sea then around 660 ad under the fear of Khazars then a group with leader Han Asparuh crossed the Danube founded the first bulgarian state in the North East Balkans 680-681 AD. The modern Bulgarians are a mix of Asparuh's and Han Kuber's
Well, my friend, there EXIST NO Slavic Bulgar mix -but Thracian and Proto-Bulgarian. Oh, yest, Bulgarian history is from milleniums BC. Troyans and Mirmidons on Balkan were Bulgars. the rest you say, is Old Propaganda theory that can be found in false books and sites like Wikipedia (Not accepted as scientific source at Universities which speaks for itself). All ppl who speak Bulshit is not following initial sources, which they MUST!
Well, my friend, there EXIST NO Slavic Bulgar mix -but Thracian and Proto-Bulgarian. Oh, yest, Bulgarian history is from milleniums BC. Troyans and Mirmidons on Balkan were Bulgars. the rest you say, is Old Propaganda theory that can be found in false books and sites like Wikipedia (Not accepted as scientific source at Universities which speaks for itself). All ppl who speak Bulshit is not following initial sources, which they MUST!
Well, my friend, there EXIST NO Slavic Bulgar mix -but Thracian and Proto-Bulgarian. Oh, yest, Bulgarian history is from milleniums BC. Troyans and Mirmidons on Balkan were Bulgars. the rest you say, is Old Propaganda theory that can be found in false books and sites like Wikipedia (Not accepted as scientific source at Universities which speaks for itself). All ppl who speak Bulshit is not following initial sources, which they MUST!
Well, my friend, there EXIST NO Slavic Bulgar mix -but Thracian and Proto-Bulgarian. Oh, yest, Bulgarian history is from milleniums BC. Troyans and Mirmidons on Balkan were Bulgars. the rest you say, is Old Propaganda theory that can be found in false books and sites like Wikipedia (Not accepted as scientific source at Universities which speaks for itself). All ppl who speak Bulshit is not following initial sources, which they MUST!
Well, my friend, there EXIST NO Slavic Bulgar mix -but Thracian and Proto-Bulgarian. Oh, yest, Bulgarian history is from milleniums BC. Troyans and Mirmidons on Balkan were Bulgars. The rest you say, is Old Propaganda theory that can be found in false books and sites like Wikipedia (Not accepted as scientific source at Universities which speaks for itself).
• Joan Malala (Byzantine source) wrote in the VI century about the Troyan war: And Achilles departed with the Artidies, [] army of 3000 people, who were called Mirmidons at this time, and now are called Bulgarians
• Joan Malala (Byzantine source) wrote in the VI century about the Troyan war: And Achilles departed with the Artidies, [] army of 3000 people, who were called Mirmidons at this time, and now are called Bulgarians
• Joan Malala (Byzantine source) wrote in the VI century about the Troyan war: And Achilles departed with the Artidies, [] army of 3000 people, who were called Mirmidons at this time, and now are called Bulgarians
people with the Slavs who have crossed the Danube and enter the Byzantine Empire one year later. The Slavs were more than the Bulgarians so the majority of the people were of Slavic origin but the Bulgarians gave their name to the new nation.
go read some history Byzantion was a colony of Byzantas from Megara (Greece near athens) Thrace was mainly colonised by Greeks and according to the iliad the thracians were Pelasgoi (paleo-greek tribe)
- Your books are FAKE. Pelasgians were ancient BULGARIANS!!! Slavs colonized Greek places, did you Greeks become Slavic people?! Byzantion was ancient Thracian city - NOT Greek! And Thracians were NOT Greeks.
- By the way, I did read history for 14 years, so I know more than you about Bulgarian history. So you don´t need to tell me to read, since I learned that when I was 7 years old. Besides, I am Academitian who do not read Greek propagnada, but true sources.
- And what is your source that denies that Byzantion was Thracian? Western Anatolia was Thracian - not Greek. Everybody knows that Thracians and Greeks are not same people.
5. Ancient Türkic are Europeans. For, example Etruscans (Oldest Thracians and Pelasgians) were pre-Türkic people who spoke Ural-Altaic. So, my friend Greeks were invadors, not the Turks.
• Joan Malala (Byzantine source) wrote in the VI century about the Troyan war: And Achilles departed with the Artidies, [] army of 3000 people, who were called Mirmidons at this time, and now are called BULGARIANS (Comment: Mirmidons were from Epirus and Thessalia, and Thraco-Illyrians. We are talking here BC, not newcomers from AD!). Since Troy was also ancient Bulgarian, this was brotherly war.
• Anonymous Ravenna Cosmograph (VI-VII) informs that ages before 375-376 South of the Danube river in Moesia, Thrace and Macedonia live only Bulgarians (Hence ONLY!). NO GREEKS!
• According to Magnus Felix Ennodius (473-521) Bulgarians are Old Thraco-Ilyrians.
@spa05akw that is bullshit what you speak.illyrian thracian???Ok show me thracian and illyrian in bulgarian language,I can show you both in my albanian language,And just to let you know greeks share the same dna as us albanians weather albanians and greeks like it it is true,,
Dude, don´t make me laugh. Tests are not taken of everybody (100%), and you can play with the statistics. I am speaking now of ancient history which has nothing to do with LATE migrations on Balkan. Sumeria was ruled by Bulgars in, but you will not find today Bulgarian blood in Arabs. By the way, tests also show that Greeks are alike Bulgarians. The problem is that Thracians were NOT Greeks. Blood tests shows that Bulgarians are 49-67% Thracians according to IGENEA (Neutral source).
• Anonymous Ravenna Cosmograph (VI-VII) informs that ages before 375-376 South of the Danube river in Moesia, Thrace and Macedonia live only Bulgarians (Hence ONLY!). NO GREEKS!
• According to Magnus Felix Ennodius (473-521) Bulgarians are Old Thraco-Ilyrians.
@spa05akw The Greeks were in this area from 3000 BC when the Cycladic Civilsation (3000-2000 bc) rose and continued from then until now (Minoan, Mycenaean , Archaic Greek, Classic Greek, Hellenistic Greek, Greco-Roman, Byzantine civilzations)
Greeks arrived at around 1800 BC not earlier. But to Crete they arrived around 2500 BC not before. This is according to world history. Furthermore, according to Greek source, Greeks came to Macedonian region in ONLY in 810 BC, which means that Macedonia was not initially Greek.
@spa05akw no they were here at least from 3000 bc (Cycladic civilization-Minoan civilization) not to mention what Plato said that the greeks were in this area since 12.000 bc when a war between atlantis and athens started but a tsunami that sunk atlantis and an earthquake that sunk alot of areas in the aegean destroyed all the clues, as he said the city of athens was reconstructed from the strat so they were no buildings left behind as proves
Swedish books say Greeks came to Crete around 2500 BC. Volga Bulg. say 1800 BC. Ancient Bulgarians-Thracians came to Balkan 15-10000 BC and are oldest. Crete is Bulgarian name CRIASH (after the Bulgarian wrestling Kriash”) before the Greeks. After, there started a Bulgaro-Greek Crete development. Even Hellenes were called in pure Bulgarian. There existed no country called with the particular name “Greece” before the 19th c. AD.
Well, Atlantis, I believe was Bulgarian-Thracian. Frygians were also Bulgarians.
Allmost all things oldest in the world were found in Bulgaria (Thrace): The oldest gold artefact, the oldest script, the oldest axe-handle, the oldest Sanskrit writing on a stone… Sofia and Varna are the oldest Thracian settlements/cities…
Joan Malala (Byzantine) from VI century wrote about the Trojan war.
And Achiles sounds like Bulgarian, because his name derives from pre-Türkic AKA/AGA.
@spa05akw Iliad comes from the Greek word "Ιλιάς" (ilias) the Greek name for the city of Troy (Troy was then called the entire country and not the city) it was written by the Greek Homer , Iliad and Odyssey are among the oldest and greatest masterpieces of the Western literature. According to ancient historians the fall of Troy took place in the 12th-14th century BC ( Eratosthenes to 1184 BC, Herodotus to 1250 BC, Duris of Samos to 1334 BC)
I am not denying that Greeks wrote history and literature. What I mean is that history are those who make it physically. Not only who write down history have history. In Greek Epos Thracians are mentioned as real people, so Thracians made history. If not, there would be nothing to write about. Anyhow, I know that the whole area was called Troy. And Troy was ancient Bulgarian.
@spa05akw na in albanian means US.TA in albanian means TO.pamet means SIGHT in alb,,meze means appetizer in albanian.buria in albanian means HORNES,E in albanian means OF.SIT MEANS SIFT..
3. Thracians spoke Boharic (Boghar/Bogar/Bugar/Bulgar), also used in Northern Egypt. That is why we can fins modern Bulgarian words in ancient Egyptian. By the way, read Dr. Stephen Guide´s books and the Thracian Chronicles written by Thracians themselves. It is a big LIE that Thracians did not have literature, etc. All, even Greek, are based on Thracían religious literature. THRACIANS ARE VERY MUCH ALIVE AND ARE CALLED TODAY BULGARS!!
@spa05akw i KNOW THRACIAN HAD A CULTURE AND WRITING SYSTEM,,iN KOSOVA WRITING FOUND DATED 6000BC IT READ TY ET,THIS IS ALBANIAN.TY MEANS YOU ET MEANS AT..THIS IS DATED BEFORE THE ALPHABET,,,FUNNY ISNT IT,,aLBANIANS HAVE 600 THRACIAN WORDS IN THERE LANGUAGE THAT BULGARIANS DONT HAVE,,
@ktm066 thracian-albanian,,sita means how to.za means sphere,ball..para noun means money.adverb ahead,zi means black.germe lettering.kemos means have not.bur man, albanian burre means man.datan place settelment. albanian datë ‘place, settlement.drenis deer,albanian dreni deer.ermas mad feirce.albanian jerm ‘furious, mad
RE: 1. By the way, the oldest script is found in Bulgaria and Romania! Period. The Thracian Script (from 6000 BC) is Decoded by Dr. Guide – and it is old Bulgarian!!! Further, Thracians used Cyrillic letters – Albanians do not use Cyrillic.
@spa05akw yes we dont. we use the we spoke thousands of yrs ago that got translated to the alphabet We lived sicluded from you all.But when our language got translated Words came out that greeks have and others,Our language is the same as always this is what make us special..We changed not much, but the world has,and we dont care..
THESE ARE BULGARIAN WORDS - NOT ALBANIAN. Bulgarians were ancient Thracians and Bulgarian is a Thracian language – not Albanian! Period. You are really funny, Bulgarian is more Thracian than 600 pseudo Albanian words. And, dude, don´t make you RIDICULOUS by being PREJUDICED – you know nothing about Bulgarian language nor the Thracian history. Learn first before commenting CRAP.
@spa05akw these words are in albanians,And there is words i showed you that you dont have,,NA in bulgarian?this mean to in bulgarian за.Us in bulgarian is нас.pamet is no such word..meneroy in bulgarian is this памет.мезе is how you say meze...sit in bulgarian means седя.How the fuck did you get these words from thracian lol..
@spa05akw How is that the same?My language we use the word NA..HOW can that be if we still use that word if we came from shitty turks or caucasus like greeks and shitty serbs saY REMIND ME WHERE THE WORD NA COMES FROM?All the words u say are thracian and is bulgarian you use words that may stem from them but we still use these words that the thracian did WHY,,Thracians havnt been around for thousands of yrs,,How is this possiable?
@spa05akw Albanians share thracian words with romanians that you dont..Why you angry..I just showd you all tghose meanians in my language?Why and they are the same yours just stem from theres The words i showed you are direct from them if we adopted your bulgarian shit then it would be same meaning and spelt the same...But it is not.YOU LIE WITH THE WORDS YOU SAY ARE THRACIAN,Thracian s never spoke SLAVNIC,,
I am not angry - just irritated. Because you use Bulgarian words and deny it. And I am also irritated that you know so little history and I don´t have time to teach all in ABC... history. And there exist no pseudo SLAVIC language. This is the language of the Thracians Moesian = Bulgarian!!!!!!
@spa05akw How can we take words fromyou when they are the same as thracian spelling and your stem from it but mine comes strait from it..If you are direct people from thracians then you would direct words,,You have to understand is that thracia also ran ito albanias lands,,why be angry..
RE: Etruscan is not Albanian. It is Uralo-Altaic. And the letters hey used are Bulgarian Thracian.
RE: Well, since Etruscans were Thracians, so they are consequently also Bulgarians.
RE: Who told you that you have direct words from Thracians? Do read some true research instead of Albanian fair-tales or coffe-shop historians who talk to much nonsence. Bulgarian is modern Thracian, and I did not stem any Thracian words. The words I gave you are direct and Bulgarian.
RE: NAS in Bulgarian is “us” and NA is “to”. PAMET in Bulgarian is “memory”. MEZE in Bulgarian is “appetiter”. BURIA in Bulgarian is “storm”. SIT in Bulgarian means “satisfied”/full”. TY is in Bulgarian TI meaning “you”.
Thracian rings from Ezerovo (dated 500 BC) can be understood only in Bulgarian. You just inherited some Thracian words from the Bulgarians. That is all. Bulgarian runic signs/letters are same as Thracian!!! You do not have Thracian Cyrillic - which is same as pseudo Latin and Etruscan (i.e. Bulgarian).
If you claim Etruscan to be your language, then Give REFERENCES, SOURCES, REFERENCES, REFERENCES... I can prove any time that Etruscan and Bulgarian letera are same!!!
@spa05akw OK i show estrucan that is in my language,,,,by the way estrucans were romans you are just slavnics..ZI PA NALJE..ARNO SE NE YJ NA YE CUME REZA VE..THIS IS ESTRUCAN.
@spa05akw I also dont claim that estucan is my language i just said we have some words what you have to understand is that all these people influeced eachother,estrucans,thracians same people,,illyrian,they all spoke a same form of language,,
@spa05akw I see much albanian in these words..Like po,ene,ne,ati te, antia, hahah much albanian in these word.all i see here is greek no bulgarian..This has no meaning in bulgarian,NONE..
Well, Volga Bulgarian source is most rialable consernig Bulgarian history, and it says that theb Troyan war was around 1800 BC. It also says that Troyans were ancient Bulgarians/Anatolians.
I did not say that Achiles was no Greek name. I was not talking about Achiles. But Achiles had Bulgarian army, as the ancient annals tell. For example, the last Bulgarian king was imported from Germany, it means not that the Bulgarian army was German. I am not arguing about Greeks, but about so called Greeks who were in fact not Greeks. Malala said that Achiles departed for Troy with Mirmidons who are now called Bulgarians.
@spa05akw There is no part in the iliad that claims Achiles wasn't a mirmidon if he wasn't a myrmidon they wouldn't follow him to the death.Besides that Achiles was from Fthia,thessaly far away from Bulgaria, accept that i told you the bulgarians came in the balkan area after crossing the volga river in the Byzantine era! Who malala was?
You probably read Greek propaganda - hide a lot of documents about the true. Malala was Byz. source and says Mirmidons are same as Bulgarians. Most important is Volga Bulgarian sources saying Bulgarians are Oldest on Balkan. Confirmed by other Latin/Byzantine sources. There was Bulgaria as a Province on Byzantine map 500 years before the so called proto-Bulgarians crossed the Danube - nice proof for anti-Bulgarian old charlatanic propaganda that they teach in "pseudo-schools".
Modern archeologists Modern archaeologists associate Homeric Troy with archaeological Troy VII 1250-1200 bc a period in which in the whole area of the Aegean sea rose the Mycenaen civilization 1600-1100 BC (Mycenaens were Achains Greeks) The Greeks on who Homer refers to are Mycenaens among with Achilles " Αχιλλεύς" (achilefs).
I am not denying that Greeks wrote history and literature. What I mean is that history are those who make it physically. Not only who write down history have history. In Greek Epos Thracians are mentioned as real people, so Thracians made history. If not, there would be nothing to write about. Anyhow, I know that the whole area was called Troy. And Troy was ancient Bulgarian.
Achilles is a greek name, etymology: Greek words " Άχος" (Αchos=sadness) and from "ιλλεύς"(illeus-illefs=roaming) so Achilles means "this who roams sadly" Achilles mother was the nymph Thetis(daughter of Poseidon , Greek Pantheon) (also greek name from the greek verb "¨Θέτω" -theto which means place so thetis="the one who places") His father was Pyleus son of Aeacus greek king of Aegina ( can tell you the etymology if you like)
- Greeks colonized for example Mesem-bria at the Black sea, but it steal wears Thracian name (-bria). Bria is thracian word for CITY. It is not Greek. That shows that Greeks were not alone but cooperated with the Thracians. But Thracians were also your enemies and in wars. When Proto-Bulgars came there were no Greeks in Bulgaria, neither in Macedonia (Fyrom), because Macedonia was moved more to East.
- Greeks colonized for example Mesem-bria at the Black sea, but it steal wears Thracian name (-bria). Bria is thracian word for CITY. It is not Greek. That shows that Greeks were not alone but cooperated with the Thracians. But Thracians were also your enemies and in wars. When Proto-Bulgars came there were no Greeks in Bulgaria, neither in Macedonia (Fyrom), because Macedonia was moved more to East.
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Devoj4E 6 months ago
PROUD TO BE A TURK
PROUD TO BE AN ANATOLIAN
LONG LIVE TURKEY
xxTurquiaxx 6 months ago
Petra the rock of ages. Where is this rock now?
abby495 9 months ago
Among others, Cyrillic is the standard alphabet for writing the following national languages:
Slavic languages: Bulgarian, Belarusian, Bosnian, Macedonian, Montenegrin, Russian, Rusyn, Serbian, Ukrainian.
ktm066 1 year ago
This is some pre indo in my language..
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066
There are Bulgarian words that are 5000, and even words from Adam and Evas time.
spa05akw 1 year ago
@ktm066
RE: Well, ppl do indeed influence each other – especially neighbours.
spa05akw 1 year ago
@ktm066
RE: These Conspirators are very funny – stupid clowns and transparent inventors of new history and fair-tales. Bulgarians are regarded as Türkic Scythians/Huns, but at the same time are regarded as Slavs. First Russians considered themselves as descendants of the Scandinavians, but since they did not have use of this pseudo theory, they switched into Slavs in order to get political power and get a foot on Balkans – for claiming purposes. Speaking of PATHETIC!!
spa05akw 1 year ago
@ktm066
@ktm066
RE: I was speaking of old history – not modern Albania. You question is interesting, how Albanians got here on Balkan? I believe they came here with Proto-Bulgarians who lived in many places on earth, among others in Caucasus, who returned back Balkans. Proto-Bulgarians, were called there among others ALBANS.
And people do change. Modern Bulgarians are not same as old Bulgarians. Some say, that Albanians came from Anatolia during the Ottoman period.
spa05akw 1 year ago
@spa05akw LOL that is a big fat lie,,We dont have nothing incommon with turks lol This is a big lie form others who hate the fact that albanians still speak there old language,,Greeks have loss there language,macedonians,thracians,But albanians are still the only people in balkans who still speak old language that is because they are protected from other because of mountains,And in albanian culture it is aa discrace to mix your blood,And when you are a child you sit down and they teach tradition
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066
RE: Some say that Romanians are Turkish Gypsies from Turkey. Though, I am confused about Valahs. Valah is same as SHEPHARD and it is difficult to say about ethnicity. Bulgarians who were shephards were also called Vlahs. Rom-ania sounds to me like ROMA (Gypsy) and there existed no Romania before the 19th c. AD! And they are definitely not Romans from Rom. All Romans were KICKED OUT from Balkans by Bulgars when they fought with them and took back territories that Romans invaded.
spa05akw 1 year ago
@ktm066
Bulgarian analogues to the right:
pékʷe (to cook, roast, bake) = pek, peche (roast, bake)
sorbéi̯e (drink, slurp) = srЪb-va (drink, take a drop of Vodka), sЪrba/-i (sip, drink noisily)
dlh1gho (long) = dЪlgo (long)
ditë (day) = den (day). Albanian pronunciation “di”
thou/ti (you) = ti (you)
spa05akw 1 year ago
@ktm066
Hai de be = “Common, lets go” in Bulgarian!
spa05akw 1 year ago
@ktm066
(chick), cher (black), chetiri (4), dar (gift), deva (virgin), dim (smoke), do (to/till), dolu (down), dobr (good), drugar (fellow, friend), glas (voice), grub (rough), hrana (food), ida (go/come), istina (truth), kapan (trap)…etc.
spa05akw 1 year ago
@ktm066
Do you have these Thracian that Bulgarian has?
edene (food), dom (house), hora (people), retch (speech), as/az (I), baba (grandmother/grandparents), bəbrek (kidney), bera (pick), bistra (clear), Bog/Bag (God), breza (birch), brit (razor), buria (storm), tri (3), na (to/off), nad (above), buza
spa05akw 1 year ago
@spa05akw BABA is a turkish word,for father in albanian,,baba is turkish i think..Yes i have that word and so does greece.bera means made in albanian/.breza means generation.buria means hornes..tri means three but it is latin.Roman.Na mean to us.Or us..BUZA MEANS EDGE..
ktm066 1 year ago
.albanian po a i ene as ne rene ati...ti a nis koa pa i a do me an ti leu i.The vessel is not in the fallen father//ti a nis koa pa i a do me an ti leu i.to a Coalition launches without a will to be an anointed of...POɅӏΣΤΕΝΕΑΣΝΕΡΕΝΕΑΤӏΛΤΕΑΝΗΣΚΟΑPAΙΕAΔΟΜΕΑΝΤӏΛΕΙΥ.there is the albanian translation,,,I just broke the words down there is much albanian in there,anymore text,,
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066
RE: Albanian in theThracian Ezerovo rings? Hahahahaahahahahahahaahah…. Dude, don´t ashame yourself. What does the text say then??????????????
RE: I said tha NA and NAS is same. Have you ever been to school? There is something called “root” in linguistics. And languages do modify and change in time. Everybody educated can tell you that, and everybody who goes to University.
spa05akw 1 year ago
@ktm066
NOU - NU - NI - NAS.... are basically same words. Bugar, Bulgar, Balgar, Palhar, Bolgar, Volgar, Vulgar... are also same. It is just phonetically modified. That means not that these are different words.
spa05akw 1 year ago
@spa05akw I just showed you.what is in my language... build A BRIDGE. GET OVER IT
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066
What you told me, is not direct proof, idiot.
spa05akw 1 year ago
@spa05akw DIRECT PROOF LOL ARE YOU KIDDING ME,,LOL THIS IS IN MY LANGUAGE IS THAT NOT ENOUGH?LOL
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066
Partially is enough. It is not enough as historic evidence of the origin. The bridge of Thracian words into your Albanian language was Bulgarian. The real home of Albans was Caucasus. Bulgarians are Thraco-Illyrians.
spa05akw 1 year ago
@spa05akw Albans was Caucasus.bahahah did you know that these people speak diffrent to albanians,that there traditionas are diffrent,Everything is diffrent.In 2006 people studied this albanian place and they said clearly they are not same as modern albania,,did you also know that there they found the oldest standing orthodox church in the world there,,silly we are not from there,Tell me how if we are them how did we get here??with out any written history from others,,
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066
ThracianChronicles, Biblia Bessica (written in Thraco-Bulgarian - Boharic) etc, were hidden from the public deliberatelly by Conspirators in order to erase the European Thracian Bulgarian history, by inventing non scientific theory about the imaginary Asian origin of the Bulgarians. There is no one Latin/Greek source saying that Bulgarians were newcomers from Asia. And There is a lot still hidden on purpose.
spa05akw 1 year ago
@spa05akw pékʷe/o—"cook" pjek "to cook, roast, bake"
*b b *sorbéi̯e/o—"drink, slurp" gjerb "to drink"
*bh b *bhaḱeha—"bean" bathë "bean"
*tuhx—"thou" ti "you (singular)"
*d d *dihxtis—"light" ditë "day" dh[* 1] *pérde/o—"fart" pjerdh "to fart" g *dlh1gho—"long" gjatë "long" (Tosk dial. glatë)
*dh d *dhégʷhe/o—"burn" djeg "to burn" dh[* 1] *ghórdhos—"enclosure" gardh "fence"
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066
Same words with another meaning:
ghórdhos, gardh (fence) = gord (proud, big for mountain), gora (forest/mountain) which can be a kind of fence.
ḱéh1mi (I say) = każi mi (tell me)
kuk (horn) = kuka (a hook), which is close to horn. The hook is pointed as well.
kághmi (I catch/grasp) = kachi me (take me up)
kam (I have) = im-am (I have). Possible relation?
spa05akw 1 year ago
@spa05akw albanian,kam,( have.)
ktm066 1 year ago
@spa05akw ḱéh1mi—"I say" thom "I say" s[* 1] *ḱuk—"horn" sutë "doe" k[* 2] *ḱreh2u—"limb" krah "arm" ç/c[* 3] *ḱentro—"to stick" çandër "prop"
*ǵ dh *ǵómbhos—"tooth, peg" dhëmb "tooth" d[* 4] *ǵēusnō—"to enjoy" dua "to love, want"
*ǵh dh *ĝhedi̯e/o—"to defecate" dhjes "to defecate" d[* 4] *ĝhr̥sdhi—"grain, barley" drithë "grain"
ktm066 1 year ago
@spa05akw *kághmi—"I catch, grasp" kam "I have" q *klau-ei̯e/o—"to weep" qaj "to weep, cry" (Gheg qanj, Salamis kla)
*g g *h3lígos—"sick" ligë "bad" gj *h1reug—"to retch" regj "to tan hides"
*gh g *ghórdhos—"enclosure" gardh "fence" gj *ghédni̯e/o—"get" gjej "to find" (Gheg gjêj)
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066
You may have some pseudo Thracian words, which were shared with the Illyrians. There is something called historically Thraco-Illyrians. Besides, Thracians spoke different languages/dialects.
spa05akw 1 year ago
@spa05akw tHAT IS ALL IM AM SAYING,,Im not saying im tracian at all,And you should not to,,,If ANYONE The romanians should,, the romanians language is and has way more thracian words in there language,,
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066
Bulgarians are Thracians - not pseudo Romanians. The word Bulgarian on the old mapse is much OLDER. There exist no Romania before the 19th. c AD! Further, I have Thracian Chronicles written by Thracian themselves on 750 pages - so no Romanian lies can teach me fake history. Thracians speak for themselves who they were, and are Bulgarians. No Romanians, nor Greeks, have acces to Thracian Chronicles - published only in 2010.
spa05akw 1 year ago
@ktm066
There is not proof for your language is a bridge. You are NOT Thracians. Bulgarians ARE, and you copied the words from the Bulgarian language. Period. Get over it.
spa05akw 1 year ago
@spa05akw tell me how can we copy words from USE if THEY ARE DIFFRENT,WE USE THE WORDS STRAIT FROM THRACIANS,, YOU USE WORDS STEMING FROM THRACIAN,,I AM NOT SAYING WE ARE THRACIAN I AM JUST SAYING WE HAVE WORDS FROM THRACIANS NOT BULGARIANS THAT YOU DONT HAVE,FACT
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066
YOU CANNOT USE DIRECTLY FROM THRACIANS, because you deny that are Bulgarian, since Thracians and Bulgarians ARE SAME PPL!!!
Indirectly, you say you use Bulgarian.
BULGARIANS USE DIRECTLY THRACIAN BECAUSE THRACIANS ARE ANCIENT BULGARIANS!!!!!!!! Face the truth.
spa05akw 1 year ago
@ktm066
Which are these Thracian words in Albanian that Bulgarians do not have?????
spa05akw 1 year ago
@spa05akw Man i showed you just little we have 600 tracian words in our language,,Out of them we share with romanians that you dont have,,or anyone in the world..
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066
I don´t believe there are more than 600 Thracian words in Albanian - till you give me REFERENCES, SOURCE...
spa05akw 1 year ago
@spa05akw Then if you know history and you are writing a book then you should study more because people will question you,,There is mant thracian words..
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066
Why do you use these Bulgarian words?: hai de be
These are typical Bulgarian words. But you got a lot from the Bulgarians when Albania was Bulgarian land.
spa05akw 1 year ago
@ktm066
If you were Thracians, you would tell me what is written on the Thracian rings/text. Say WHAT??????????? You just know to say Blablalbla aa - no REFERENCES or logic EXPLANATIONS. Just Blablablabla...............
spa05akw 1 year ago
@spa05akw WE DONT USE CYRILIC.NOR DID USE UNTIL YOU ADOPTED IT FROM GREEKS,,,MY WHOLE LANGUAGE IS PIE,MY LANGUAGE IS OLDER THAN SHITTY BULGARIAN,YOU ARE A SLAVNIC COUNTRY WHO BORROWED AND WAS INFLUENCED BY GREEK AND MACEDONIAN,,PLEASE NEXT YOU WILL SAY MACEDONIA IS BULGARIAN
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066
Tell me, in WHICH year or eopke the word Albanian is mentioned for the first time by any annals???????????
spa05akw 1 year ago
@spa05akw It doesnt matter what yr what matters is that the albaniansSpeak a dilect that is from ancient people of balkans,There traditions is ancient,,There scull caps ancinets wore..There fustenella is seen on walls in greece from the pelasgians,,,It is hard to say who albanians are because they share thracian,pelasgian,illyrian,and some estucan in there language,This is why the world is stunned,,All i see is that all these people influenced each other,,
ktm066 1 year ago
@spa05akw This is why albanians have many words of ancient people.Have you seen words that are over 4000bc,,I will show you PRE INDO EURO in albanian language,,
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066
I said, Cyrrilic is not from Greek! It is from ancient Bulgarians!!! Period.
Greeks adopted Bulgarians Cyrillic letters. It is the OPPOSITE!!!!!!!! Learn that. There exist no Greek or Latin letters - because they copied it from the Bulgarians. Cyrillic is Thracian from BC - not from AD.
MAKEDONIA IS INDEED BULGARIAN - ALWAYS HAVE BEEN AND WILL BE. And there were no SLAVS in BUlgaria. Slavic DOES NOT EXIST - only in the head of ignorant ppl. End of discussion.
spa05akw 1 year ago
@ktm066
I repeat: No GREEKS, no LATINS invented the letters. Bulgarian did in 4500 BC!! Hahah... Greeks (Africans) and Latins WERE NOT born YET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
spa05akw 1 year ago
@spa05akw Are you see then what about pelasgians they are the mother of all in balkans,it is belived the pelasgians thracian illyrians spoke same language..dont tell me thracians are older than pelasgians because they are not,,
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066
Bulgarians were Pelasgians - also Thracians. Threcian is a Federative/Collective name for all tribes. Thracians are direct descendants from the Biblical Noah who were destined to populate Europe and Anatolia. And Adam and Eve live in Bulgaria - so they are definitivelly OLDEST!
spa05akw 1 year ago
@spa05akw Please adam and eve lol.You do know albanians language has its own stem from the language tree,,,..you funny..
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066
STOP DREAMING, Dude. You must have sources, references and logical eplanations. I do not believe what you say, because you say so. I can tell you, I am Mother Teresa resurected.
spa05akw 1 year ago
Also my cusin is a historian in language and culture and has a major in it,So what i have learned some comes from him,,he gets angry when i talk to people like you he tells me this,You worrie to much what people think about us and you forget who you are and your traditions this is a problem with the albanians now days,,He says who cares what people think just worrie about yourself and traditions,,
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066 He is going to be elected in kosova goverment and he is already putting a stop to other trying to influece our language,Our language will be protected and teached in every school..what i mean by this is that there is 2 dilect gheg and tosk,,the greeks have assimulted tosks well some,,,There is a standard albanian and albania want one language ,But he is going to stop that and protect our language because most of our language is all pie,,we have words that pelasgians have thracian,have
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066
There exist no Greek or Latin letters. Greeks and Latins copied the letters from the Bulgarians Thracians!!!!!!!!!! IT IS A BIG WORLD WIDE LIARS who say that there exist Greek or Latin letters.
spa05akw 1 year ago
@spa05akw bahahahahah bullshit
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066
These are also Bulgarian words: kinti, skivam, skimva, para, kelesh, kekav….
The word PAMET is not Albanian, but Thraco-Bulgarian. The proof for it is that it is also Egyptian. Thraco-Bulgarians were in Egypt – Albans not. Get over it. Further, modern Thracian was influenced by Latin – not by Albans. Bulgarian and Spanish, for example, share 2400 common words, of which some probably are also used by Albans.
spa05akw 1 year ago
@spa05akwAlbanians were in egypt fighting with alexandra the great,,Illyrians were influenced by latin,also romanians,also the whole world?dacians,thracians,you silly
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066 kʷehasleha—"cough" kollë "cough" s *kʷéle/o—"turn" sjell "to fetch, bring" q *kʷṓd—"that" që "that"
*gʷ g *gʷr̥—"stone" gur "stone" z *gʷērhxu—"heaviness" zor "heaviness; trouble"
*gʷh g *dhégʷhe/o—"to burn" djeg "to burn" z *h1en-dhogʷhéi̯e/o—"to ignite" ndez "to kindle, turn on"
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066
For your information, not long ago Russians wanted from Bulgarians the Egeian zone (before Greeks stole it with the help of the Big Powers in a Piece Treaty), if Bulgarians wanted to get back Macedonia, but Bulgarians said NO. Russians threatened Bulgarians saying that both Macedonia and Egeian will not return to Bulgaria. And Russians played DIRTY role in cutting of Bulgaria. They are not friends robbers – a shit like Serbs. So Vikings turned to be Slavs.
spa05akw 1 year ago
@ktm066 séḱstis—"six" gjashtë "six" h[* 2] *nosōm—"us" (gen.) nahe "us" (dat.) sh[* 3] *bhreusinos—"break" breshër "hail" th[* 4] *gʷésdos—"leaf" gjeth "leaf" h[* 5] *sḱi-eh2—"shadow" hije "shadow" f[* 6] *spélnom—"speech" fjalë "word" sht[* 7] *h2osti "bone" asht "bone" th[* 8] *suh1s—"swine" thi "boar" ø *h1ésmi—"am" jam "to be"
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066
I have the ASE in my hands because of this:
1. I studied Bulgarian history since 1996
2. I have Latin/Byzantine sources.
3. I have Thracian Chronicles written by Thracians themselves.
4. I have books Thracian Scriot Decoded Part I + II + III
5. I have many other sources
Romanians or Greeks, who know only ABC...in history, will not teach me my own history. Simple.
spa05akw 1 year ago
@ktm066
I cannot chat more today, because I have a lot to do. I must proceed with writing my historical book. By the way, Thracians (i.e. Bulgarians) ruled Egypt, and there are preserved modern basic words in the ancient Egyptian. Aha, please write your Albanian words in Cyrillic. I do not know you phonetic pronounciation.
spa05akw 1 year ago
@ktm066
The Thracian negation NE is same in Bulgarian NE!
spa05akw 1 year ago
what about the word NE E ENE,these words are in albanians and also spoken by the ancient somarian..so how did albanians adopt that and how did these people speak it?where did they adopt it and who from?somarian is a old old language,,
ktm066 1 year ago
this is what know one will ever know,How do you know that greeks didnt copy thracians or thracians didnt copy greek,or if greeks copyed illyrian or illyrian copyed greek well what i really mean pelasgian,or how do we know that greeks didnt copy albanian or albanian didnt copy greek,,or if bulgaria didnt copy thracian,,I dont claim any of these i just claim we have words that are thousands of yrs old that not many people speak anymore,,
ktm066 1 year ago
LA APA YJNORIS NE RO..LOL//
ktm066 1 year ago
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE ILLYRIAN?GAI E KAIE IE ANKTH LENE ITH HIRI E TE HAJRI...VERY INTERESTING ISNT IT ..WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE PELASGIAN NOW..YOU SEE THIS SHOWS THAT ALBANIANS HAVE BEEN AROUND MANY MANY YRS BECAUSE NONE OF THESE WORDS EXCIST IN ANY OTHER LANGUAGE SOME WORDS MAY,,BUT ALL OF THESE STILL SPOKEN EVERYDAY
ktm066 1 year ago
THERE IS MANY MANY OF THOSE WORDS YOU SHOWED ME HAVE MEANING IN ALBANIAN I JUST HAVE TO SPACE THEM OUT AND IT GIVES ME MEANING,we also have MAL witch is a thracian word BANK OR MOUNTAIN..there is heaps we have,,
ktm066 1 year ago
- Constantine the Great was Thracian (Bulgarian) and spoke domestic language which was not Latin or Greek. Byzantion was ancient Thracian city that gave name to the Eastern "Rom".
spa05akw 2 years ago
Idiot Thracians were ancient Paleo-Balkan people.Bulgarians are mixed both Turkic and Slavic peoples based on the Jugo-Slavskaia branch!
lyoizisi 1 year ago
Bulgarians were a Turkish-mongol tribe that was mixed with slaves that crossed Danube into the Roman territories and settled in modern Bulgaria
terraprod 1 year ago
1. There never existed any Slavic ethnic people.
2. These were Proto-Bulgarians originating from Europe who comquered the world and Asia.
3. Balkan Bulgarians are LOCAL and OLDEST. Proto-Bulgarians mixed with Balkan Bulgarians - NOT with imagunary "Slavs"
4. Archeological proof of sculls: Bulgarians are Caucasoid, i.e. Europeid.
spa05akw 1 year ago
My friend hear your language!!!Bulgarian are a Slav-Turkish mix no history before Christ for that you can be sure because the name bulgaria comes from the turanian "Bulga" which means "mix" Bulgarians were a turkish tribe who first settled north of the Caspian sea then around 660 ad under the fear of Khazars then a group with leader Han Asparuh crossed the Danube founded the first bulgarian state in the North East Balkans 680-681 AD. The modern Bulgarians are a mix of Asparuh's and Han Kuber's
terraprod 1 year ago
@terraprod
Well, my friend, there EXIST NO Slavic Bulgar mix -but Thracian and Proto-Bulgarian. Oh, yest, Bulgarian history is from milleniums BC. Troyans and Mirmidons on Balkan were Bulgars. the rest you say, is Old Propaganda theory that can be found in false books and sites like Wikipedia (Not accepted as scientific source at Universities which speaks for itself). All ppl who speak Bulshit is not following initial sources, which they MUST!
spa05akw 1 year ago
@terraprod
Well, my friend, there EXIST NO Slavic Bulgar mix -but Thracian and Proto-Bulgarian. Oh, yest, Bulgarian history is from milleniums BC. Troyans and Mirmidons on Balkan were Bulgars. the rest you say, is Old Propaganda theory that can be found in false books and sites like Wikipedia (Not accepted as scientific source at Universities which speaks for itself). All ppl who speak Bulshit is not following initial sources, which they MUST!
spa05akw 1 year ago
@terraprod
Well, my friend, there EXIST NO Slavic Bulgar mix -but Thracian and Proto-Bulgarian. Oh, yest, Bulgarian history is from milleniums BC. Troyans and Mirmidons on Balkan were Bulgars. the rest you say, is Old Propaganda theory that can be found in false books and sites like Wikipedia (Not accepted as scientific source at Universities which speaks for itself). All ppl who speak Bulshit is not following initial sources, which they MUST!
spa05akw 1 year ago
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@terraprod
Well, my friend, there EXIST NO Slavic Bulgar mix -but Thracian and Proto-Bulgarian. Oh, yest, Bulgarian history is from milleniums BC. Troyans and Mirmidons on Balkan were Bulgars. the rest you say, is Old Propaganda theory that can be found in false books and sites like Wikipedia (Not accepted as scientific source at Universities which speaks for itself). All ppl who speak Bulshit is not following initial sources, which they MUST!
spa05akw 1 year ago
@terraprod
Well, my friend, there EXIST NO Slavic Bulgar mix -but Thracian and Proto-Bulgarian. Oh, yest, Bulgarian history is from milleniums BC. Troyans and Mirmidons on Balkan were Bulgars. The rest you say, is Old Propaganda theory that can be found in false books and sites like Wikipedia (Not accepted as scientific source at Universities which speaks for itself).
spa05akw 1 year ago
@terraprod
Can you read at all? Are you goint to deny this?
• Joan Malala (Byzantine source) wrote in the VI century about the Troyan war: And Achilles departed with the Artidies, [] army of 3000 people, who were called Mirmidons at this time, and now are called Bulgarians
spa05akw 1 year ago
@terraprod
Can you read at all? Are you goint to deny this?
• Joan Malala (Byzantine source) wrote in the VI century about the Troyan war: And Achilles departed with the Artidies, [] army of 3000 people, who were called Mirmidons at this time, and now are called Bulgarians
spa05akw 1 year ago
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@terraprod
Can you read at all? Are you goint to deny this?
• Joan Malala (Byzantine source) wrote in the VI century about the Troyan war: And Achilles departed with the Artidies, [] army of 3000 people, who were called Mirmidons at this time, and now are called Bulgarians
spa05akw 1 year ago
(Comment: Mirmidons were from Epirus and Thessalia, and Thraco-Illyrians. We are talking here BC, not newcomers from AD!).
spa05akw 1 year ago
people with the Slavs who have crossed the Danube and enter the Byzantine Empire one year later. The Slavs were more than the Bulgarians so the majority of the people were of Slavic origin but the Bulgarians gave their name to the new nation.
terraprod 1 year ago
go read some history Byzantion was a colony of Byzantas from Megara (Greece near athens) Thrace was mainly colonised by Greeks and according to the iliad the thracians were Pelasgoi (paleo-greek tribe)
terraprod 1 year ago
- Your books are FAKE. Pelasgians were ancient BULGARIANS!!! Slavs colonized Greek places, did you Greeks become Slavic people?! Byzantion was ancient Thracian city - NOT Greek! And Thracians were NOT Greeks.
spa05akw 1 year ago
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Bulgarians were a Turkish-mongol tribe that was mixed with slaves that crossed Danube into the Roman territories and settled in modern Bulgaria
terraprod 1 year ago
- By the way, I did read history for 14 years, so I know more than you about Bulgarian history. So you don´t need to tell me to read, since I learned that when I was 7 years old. Besides, I am Academitian who do not read Greek propagnada, but true sources.
spa05akw 1 year ago
tell me your sources that claim that Byzantas from Megara Greece didn't found Byzantion
terraprod 1 year ago
- And what is your source that denies that Byzantion was Thracian? Western Anatolia was Thracian - not Greek. Everybody knows that Thracians and Greeks are not same people.
spa05akw 1 year ago
5. Ancient Türkic are Europeans. For, example Etruscans (Oldest Thracians and Pelasgians) were pre-Türkic people who spoke Ural-Altaic. So, my friend Greeks were invadors, not the Turks.
spa05akw 1 year ago
• Joan Malala (Byzantine source) wrote in the VI century about the Troyan war: And Achilles departed with the Artidies, [] army of 3000 people, who were called Mirmidons at this time, and now are called BULGARIANS (Comment: Mirmidons were from Epirus and Thessalia, and Thraco-Illyrians. We are talking here BC, not newcomers from AD!). Since Troy was also ancient Bulgarian, this was brotherly war.
spa05akw 1 year ago
Achilles was from Fthia Thessaly Greece and he was Greek not Bulgarian
READ HISTORY
terraprod 1 year ago
@terraprod
• Anonymous Ravenna Cosmograph (VI-VII) informs that ages before 375-376 South of the Danube river in Moesia, Thrace and Macedonia live only Bulgarians (Hence ONLY!). NO GREEKS!
• According to Magnus Felix Ennodius (473-521) Bulgarians are Old Thraco-Ilyrians.
spa05akw 1 year ago
@spa05akw that is bullshit what you speak.illyrian thracian???Ok show me thracian and illyrian in bulgarian language,I can show you both in my albanian language,And just to let you know greeks share the same dna as us albanians weather albanians and greeks like it it is true,,
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066
Dude, don´t make me laugh. Tests are not taken of everybody (100%), and you can play with the statistics. I am speaking now of ancient history which has nothing to do with LATE migrations on Balkan. Sumeria was ruled by Bulgars in, but you will not find today Bulgarian blood in Arabs. By the way, tests also show that Greeks are alike Bulgarians. The problem is that Thracians were NOT Greeks. Blood tests shows that Bulgarians are 49-67% Thracians according to IGENEA (Neutral source).
spa05akw 1 year ago
@terraprod
• Anonymous Ravenna Cosmograph (VI-VII) informs that ages before 375-376 South of the Danube river in Moesia, Thrace and Macedonia live only Bulgarians (Hence ONLY!). NO GREEKS!
• According to Magnus Felix Ennodius (473-521) Bulgarians are Old Thraco-Ilyrians.
spa05akw 1 year ago
@spa05akw The Greeks were in this area from 3000 BC when the Cycladic Civilsation (3000-2000 bc) rose and continued from then until now (Minoan, Mycenaean , Archaic Greek, Classic Greek, Hellenistic Greek, Greco-Roman, Byzantine civilzations)
terraprod 1 year ago
@terraprod
Greeks arrived at around 1800 BC not earlier. But to Crete they arrived around 2500 BC not before. This is according to world history. Furthermore, according to Greek source, Greeks came to Macedonian region in ONLY in 810 BC, which means that Macedonia was not initially Greek.
spa05akw 1 year ago
@spa05akw no they were here at least from 3000 bc (Cycladic civilization-Minoan civilization) not to mention what Plato said that the greeks were in this area since 12.000 bc when a war between atlantis and athens started but a tsunami that sunk atlantis and an earthquake that sunk alot of areas in the aegean destroyed all the clues, as he said the city of athens was reconstructed from the strat so they were no buildings left behind as proves
terraprod 1 year ago
@terraprod
Swedish books say Greeks came to Crete around 2500 BC. Volga Bulg. say 1800 BC. Ancient Bulgarians-Thracians came to Balkan 15-10000 BC and are oldest. Crete is Bulgarian name CRIASH (after the Bulgarian wrestling Kriash”) before the Greeks. After, there started a Bulgaro-Greek Crete development. Even Hellenes were called in pure Bulgarian. There existed no country called with the particular name “Greece” before the 19th c. AD.
spa05akw 1 year ago
@terraprod
Well, Atlantis, I believe was Bulgarian-Thracian. Frygians were also Bulgarians.
Allmost all things oldest in the world were found in Bulgaria (Thrace): The oldest gold artefact, the oldest script, the oldest axe-handle, the oldest Sanskrit writing on a stone… Sofia and Varna are the oldest Thracian settlements/cities…
Joan Malala (Byzantine) from VI century wrote about the Trojan war.
And Achiles sounds like Bulgarian, because his name derives from pre-Türkic AKA/AGA.
spa05akw 1 year ago
@spa05akw Iliad comes from the Greek word "Ιλιάς" (ilias) the Greek name for the city of Troy (Troy was then called the entire country and not the city) it was written by the Greek Homer , Iliad and Odyssey are among the oldest and greatest masterpieces of the Western literature. According to ancient historians the fall of Troy took place in the 12th-14th century BC ( Eratosthenes to 1184 BC, Herodotus to 1250 BC, Duris of Samos to 1334 BC)
terraprod 1 year ago
@terraprod
I am not denying that Greeks wrote history and literature. What I mean is that history are those who make it physically. Not only who write down history have history. In Greek Epos Thracians are mentioned as real people, so Thracians made history. If not, there would be nothing to write about. Anyhow, I know that the whole area was called Troy. And Troy was ancient Bulgarian.
spa05akw 1 year ago
@spa05akw show me thracian words in bulgarian????
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066
I missed your message, so I am late. Here are examples of Bulgarian (Thracian) words:
1. sel/selo, otets, edene, edem, re-ch, hrana, hora, maika, dom, ke/de, tata/tato/tatko, na, ta, buria, arda, baba, batko, te/tebe, men/mene, nisko, lezi, bera, bivak, Bog, bori, breza, bЪrz, cher, chist, dЪrvo, dolu, den, dobЪr, drugar, edin, geroi, glava, glas, hram, istina, e, istok, kapan, kmet, kosti, kuchi, meze, navek, novo, niva, pamet, para/-i, pes, sheina, sit, pravda, upravda, etc...
spa05akw 1 year ago
@spa05akw na in albanian means US.TA in albanian means TO.pamet means SIGHT in alb,,meze means appetizer in albanian.buria in albanian means HORNES,E in albanian means OF.SIT MEANS SIFT..
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066
2. Bulgarians speak modern Thracian. Thracian did not disappear. There exist no pseudo "Slavic" language.
spa05akw 1 year ago
@ktm066
3. Thracians spoke Boharic (Boghar/Bogar/Bugar/Bulgar), also used in Northern Egypt. That is why we can fins modern Bulgarian words in ancient Egyptian. By the way, read Dr. Stephen Guide´s books and the Thracian Chronicles written by Thracians themselves. It is a big LIE that Thracians did not have literature, etc. All, even Greek, are based on Thracían religious literature. THRACIANS ARE VERY MUCH ALIVE AND ARE CALLED TODAY BULGARS!!
spa05akw 1 year ago
@spa05akw i KNOW THRACIAN HAD A CULTURE AND WRITING SYSTEM,,iN KOSOVA WRITING FOUND DATED 6000BC IT READ TY ET,THIS IS ALBANIAN.TY MEANS YOU ET MEANS AT..THIS IS DATED BEFORE THE ALPHABET,,,FUNNY ISNT IT,,aLBANIANS HAVE 600 THRACIAN WORDS IN THERE LANGUAGE THAT BULGARIANS DONT HAVE,,
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066 thracian-albanian,,sita means how to.za means sphere,ball..para noun means money.adverb ahead,zi means black.germe lettering.kemos means have not.bur man, albanian burre means man.datan place settelment. albanian datë ‘place, settlement.drenis deer,albanian dreni deer.ermas mad feirce.albanian jerm ‘furious, mad
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066 pupa hills..albanian pupe hills.lera stone albanian lere stones.titha ‘light,Alb. ditë ‘day’ there is heaps.it is pointless
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066
RE: 1. By the way, the oldest script is found in Bulgaria and Romania! Period. The Thracian Script (from 6000 BC) is Decoded by Dr. Guide – and it is old Bulgarian!!! Further, Thracians used Cyrillic letters – Albanians do not use Cyrillic.
spa05akw 1 year ago
@spa05akw yes we dont. we use the we spoke thousands of yrs ago that got translated to the alphabet We lived sicluded from you all.But when our language got translated Words came out that greeks have and others,Our language is the same as always this is what make us special..We changed not much, but the world has,and we dont care..
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066
THESE ARE BULGARIAN WORDS - NOT ALBANIAN. Bulgarians were ancient Thracians and Bulgarian is a Thracian language – not Albanian! Period. You are really funny, Bulgarian is more Thracian than 600 pseudo Albanian words. And, dude, don´t make you RIDICULOUS by being PREJUDICED – you know nothing about Bulgarian language nor the Thracian history. Learn first before commenting CRAP.
spa05akw 1 year ago
@spa05akw these words are in albanians,And there is words i showed you that you dont have,,NA in bulgarian?this mean to in bulgarian за.Us in bulgarian is нас.pamet is no such word..meneroy in bulgarian is this памет.мезе is how you say meze...sit in bulgarian means седя.How the fuck did you get these words from thracian lol..
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066
NA and NAS are same! Just modified. How we got hese words from Thracians? Well, I told you that Thracians were ancient Bulgarians! Period.
THESE WORDS tha I mentioned ARE BULGARIAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PERIOD! FACT!
spa05akw 1 year ago
@spa05akw How is that the same?My language we use the word NA..HOW can that be if we still use that word if we came from shitty turks or caucasus like greeks and shitty serbs saY REMIND ME WHERE THE WORD NA COMES FROM?All the words u say are thracian and is bulgarian you use words that may stem from them but we still use these words that the thracian did WHY,,Thracians havnt been around for thousands of yrs,,How is this possiable?
ktm066 1 year ago
@spa05akw Albanians share thracian words with romanians that you dont..Why you angry..I just showd you all tghose meanians in my language?Why and they are the same yours just stem from theres The words i showed you are direct from them if we adopted your bulgarian shit then it would be same meaning and spelt the same...But it is not.YOU LIE WITH THE WORDS YOU SAY ARE THRACIAN,Thracian s never spoke SLAVNIC,,
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066
I am not angry - just irritated. Because you use Bulgarian words and deny it. And I am also irritated that you know so little history and I don´t have time to teach all in ABC... history. And there exist no pseudo SLAVIC language. This is the language of the Thracians Moesian = Bulgarian!!!!!!
spa05akw 1 year ago
@spa05akw How can we take words fromyou when they are the same as thracian spelling and your stem from it but mine comes strait from it..If you are direct people from thracians then you would direct words,,You have to understand is that thracia also ran ito albanias lands,,why be angry..
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066
RE: Etruscan is not Albanian. It is Uralo-Altaic. And the letters hey used are Bulgarian Thracian.
RE: Well, since Etruscans were Thracians, so they are consequently also Bulgarians.
RE: Who told you that you have direct words from Thracians? Do read some true research instead of Albanian fair-tales or coffe-shop historians who talk to much nonsence. Bulgarian is modern Thracian, and I did not stem any Thracian words. The words I gave you are direct and Bulgarian.
spa05akw 1 year ago
@spa05akw who told me i just showed you words you idiot..
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066
RE: NAS in Bulgarian is “us” and NA is “to”. PAMET in Bulgarian is “memory”. MEZE in Bulgarian is “appetiter”. BURIA in Bulgarian is “storm”. SIT in Bulgarian means “satisfied”/full”. TY is in Bulgarian TI meaning “you”.
spa05akw 1 year ago
@ktm066
Thracian rings from Ezerovo (dated 500 BC) can be understood only in Bulgarian. You just inherited some Thracian words from the Bulgarians. That is all. Bulgarian runic signs/letters are same as Thracian!!! You do not have Thracian Cyrillic - which is same as pseudo Latin and Etruscan (i.e. Bulgarian).
spa05akw 1 year ago
@spa05akw ESTRUCAN????HAHAHAH LETS DO ESTRUCAN IN MY LANGUAGE....Im keen for that,,,do you know much about estrucans??Because i do...
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066
If you claim Etruscan to be your language, then Give REFERENCES, SOURCES, REFERENCES, REFERENCES... I can prove any time that Etruscan and Bulgarian letera are same!!!
spa05akw 1 year ago
@spa05akw OK i show estrucan that is in my language,,,,by the way estrucans were romans you are just slavnics..ZI PA NALJE..ARNO SE NE YJ NA YE CUME REZA VE..THIS IS ESTRUCAN.
ktm066 1 year ago
@spa05akw I also dont claim that estucan is my language i just said we have some words what you have to understand is that all these people influeced eachother,estrucans,thracians same people,,illyrian,they all spoke a same form of language,,
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066
Bulgarian has even same grammar as Thracian.
spa05akw 1 year ago
@ktm066
This is in Thracian text from a ring: POɅӏΣΤΕΝΕΑΣΝΕΡΕΝΕΑΤӏΛΤΕΑΝΗΣΚΟΑPAΙΕAΔΟΜΕΑΝΤӏΛΕΙΥ…..
and can be understood in Bulgarian!!! What is Albanian in this?!!
spa05akw 1 year ago
@spa05akw I see much albanian in these words..Like po,ene,ne,ati te, antia, hahah much albanian in these word.all i see here is greek no bulgarian..This has no meaning in bulgarian,NONE..
ktm066 1 year ago
@terraprod
Well, Volga Bulgarian source is most rialable consernig Bulgarian history, and it says that theb Troyan war was around 1800 BC. It also says that Troyans were ancient Bulgarians/Anatolians.
spa05akw 1 year ago
@terraprod
I did not say that Achiles was no Greek name. I was not talking about Achiles. But Achiles had Bulgarian army, as the ancient annals tell. For example, the last Bulgarian king was imported from Germany, it means not that the Bulgarian army was German. I am not arguing about Greeks, but about so called Greeks who were in fact not Greeks. Malala said that Achiles departed for Troy with Mirmidons who are now called Bulgarians.
spa05akw 1 year ago
@spa05akw There is no part in the iliad that claims Achiles wasn't a mirmidon if he wasn't a myrmidon they wouldn't follow him to the death.Besides that Achiles was from Fthia,thessaly far away from Bulgaria, accept that i told you the bulgarians came in the balkan area after crossing the volga river in the Byzantine era! Who malala was?
terraprod 1 year ago
@terraprod
You probably read Greek propaganda - hide a lot of documents about the true. Malala was Byz. source and says Mirmidons are same as Bulgarians. Most important is Volga Bulgarian sources saying Bulgarians are Oldest on Balkan. Confirmed by other Latin/Byzantine sources. There was Bulgaria as a Province on Byzantine map 500 years before the so called proto-Bulgarians crossed the Danube - nice proof for anti-Bulgarian old charlatanic propaganda that they teach in "pseudo-schools".
spa05akw 1 year ago
Modern archeologists Modern archaeologists associate Homeric Troy with archaeological Troy VII 1250-1200 bc a period in which in the whole area of the Aegean sea rose the Mycenaen civilization 1600-1100 BC (Mycenaens were Achains Greeks) The Greeks on who Homer refers to are Mycenaens among with Achilles " Αχιλλεύς" (achilefs).
terraprod 1 year ago
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@terraprod
I am not denying that Greeks wrote history and literature. What I mean is that history are those who make it physically. Not only who write down history have history. In Greek Epos Thracians are mentioned as real people, so Thracians made history. If not, there would be nothing to write about. Anyhow, I know that the whole area was called Troy. And Troy was ancient Bulgarian.
spa05akw 1 year ago
Achilles is a greek name, etymology: Greek words " Άχος" (Αchos=sadness) and from "ιλλεύς"(illeus-illefs=roaming) so Achilles means "this who roams sadly" Achilles mother was the nymph Thetis(daughter of Poseidon , Greek Pantheon) (also greek name from the greek verb "¨Θέτω" -theto which means place so thetis="the one who places") His father was Pyleus son of Aeacus greek king of Aegina ( can tell you the etymology if you like)
terraprod 1 year ago
- Greeks colonized for example Mesem-bria at the Black sea, but it steal wears Thracian name (-bria). Bria is thracian word for CITY. It is not Greek. That shows that Greeks were not alone but cooperated with the Thracians. But Thracians were also your enemies and in wars. When Proto-Bulgars came there were no Greeks in Bulgaria, neither in Macedonia (Fyrom), because Macedonia was moved more to East.
spa05akw 1 year ago
- Greeks colonized for example Mesem-bria at the Black sea, but it steal wears Thracian name (-bria). Bria is thracian word for CITY. It is not Greek. That shows that Greeks were not alone but cooperated with the Thracians. But Thracians were also your enemies and in wars. When Proto-Bulgars came there were no Greeks in Bulgaria, neither in Macedonia (Fyrom), because Macedonia was moved more to East.
spa05akw 1 year ago
- Constantine the great who was Thracian, did built cities in Dacia and Moesia, because he was Daco-Moesian who spoke Daco-Moesian language.
spa05akw 1 year ago
Constantine's mother was Greek from bythenia named Helen (nowadays known as Saint Helen)
terraprod 1 year ago
Constantine's mother was Greek from bythenia called Helen (modern Saint Helen)
terraprod 1 year ago
- Constantine was Thracian - NOT Greek. His domestic language was no Greek.
spa05akw 1 year ago
can you upload the whole episode???? :]
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