If being gay or lesbian is a choice, then that implies that every heterosexual man or woman must ask themselves and invision themselves having sex with a man or woman of the same sex and then decide to be a heterosexual or homosexual, however if you ask, or invision yourself doing this then you have commited a thought crime (sin). and the second you think this then you are gay and have homo tendencies. I asked a Mormon this and he told me that even jesus went through this so GOD is a homo.
Elder Oaks is right on in describing the effects of the radical homosexual agenda. Those extremists hide behind the word "tolerance" when they display absolutely zero tolerance for others.
"Elder" Oaks is dead wrong in his comments. Just because you accuse gays of being intolerant doesn't mean that you're not intolerant or extremist. You still are!
Gays getting married doesn't affect the practice of your religion nor your everyday life. However, you telling gays they can't get married DOES affect their lives, every day.
Gays are happy to let you people have your religion.... but you can't dictate civil rights.
@TheKinderhookPlates Actually, yes; redefining marriage has already led to many infringements on the rights of individuals and religious groups to practice their faith as their conscience dictates. Public servants in Canada may be sued for refusing to perform a same-gender marriage even if they refer the couple to someone who will. A Methodist boardwalk chapel in Mass had it's tax-exemption revoked because it didn't allow a same-gender marriage on it's premise. cont...
@TheKinderhookPlates ...Mormon chapels were vandalized because of their support for Prop 8; elementary-aged children are being forced to attend sex-ed courses (formerly optional) that are now teaching same-sex activities, and parents have no say in the matter.
These are but a few things going down with the destruction of the definition of marriage (and we still don't know how far-reaching it will end up). So do religious people have cause to fear for their rights of free expression? Yes.
Your comment is full of lies that you obviously believe. How sad.
Like it or not, gays have been dominant in arts & culture for centuries.
There's no children being forced to listen to sex education. As always, sex-ed classes are something parents can opt their children out of. That was the case before Prop 8, and it hasn't changed because of it.
If a civil servant can't perform their job of serving ALL of the public, should that person BE in that job? No.
In the case of the Methodist church, they did NOT lose their tax exemption on their chapel. They lost it ONLY on a pavilion that had been open for everyone to use... in other words, there to serve the public. The Methodist group could no more refuse to accommodate the gay couple than a restaurant could refuse to serve a black man.
Answer this... what makes you think your religious rights are more important than a gay person's civil rights? Are you better than them?
According to the Box Elder News Journal, Brigham City officials are coordinating with LDS church officials as they are expecting a large crowd to be in attendance. The four streets along the temple block (Main Street, 200 South, 100 West and 300 South) ...
My concern only increased when my Mormon student introduced herself - seated straight-backed next to a southern Baptist - with the words: "I am a Mormon which means that, yes, I am a Christian, despite what any of you think. .
In recent history, authorities of the LDS Church have stayed out of direct participation in partisan politics, but that has not always been the case. Church founder Joseph Smith ran for US president in 1844, the year he was killed by a mob. .
The concept of covenant Israel is an eternal one for Mormons, and Leslie presents the scriptural record of Israelites in a clear and logical way. The title of the book comes from a scripture in the LDS book Doctrine and Covenants (D&C 86:9) that addresses the "lawful heirs" of the covenant who serve as a "light unto the Gentiles."
This topic is of great interest to Mormons, who believe that they are members of the House of Israel and receive blessings from "patriarchs" that assign them to an Israelite tribe through which they will receive their ultimate spiritual blessings. .
You say nothing whatever about Prop 8, its relevance to religion or to your Church, which thinks it a threat. Were not Church monies spent to fight it, thus breaching the wall of separation you concede is valuable?
I submit that your Church, in denying same-sex couples their right to marry, does to them what the South did to blacks, and with identical motives: It relegates them to a lesser status and denies them priviliges accorded others out of ignorance, bigotry and insufferable hubris.
That is if you're Mormon. With the pressure to get married pretty intense among Mormons, a new church in the DC area calling itself the "23 rd Street Chapel" is seeking to put members on the fast track to marriage -- by separating them from the married ..
Homosexuality is defined by sex. Heterosexuality is defined by God. Homosexuality cannot be defined by marriage, it cannot be defined by children, and it will never be defined by love. Homosexuality is defined by a perverted sexual act. May God's love and mercy shine like a rainbow on our brothers and sisters struggling with sexual addiction and perversion.
@mermaidsareppl222 Do you know how many people get torned anus' because of disgusting homosexual behaviors?! You need to stop and think objectivley before defending this grotesque sin, that needs a law to be passed so people(sheeple like you)like you can think it's o.k and normal WHICH IS ANYTHING BUT!
WAKE UP AND THINK FOR YOURSELF! AND THE GAYS CALL US INTOLERANT HA!
@jmoonsuede No, Your doing it wrong. Use lots of lube and work it in slow. Why don’t we hook up and I can show you. I'm big, but will be gentle with your ass. I’ll see you’ll enjoy it. You god bothers always make the hottest fucks.
@bommmmmmmm Actually thats why people like you end up contracting HIV because you rather inject your seeds of life into shit and call it "love making" your a disgusting bunch and I have every right to be disgusted by a sinful faget like you. Sorry the gay community has the highest rates of HIV(mostly among the males) but you guys are just plain and simple asking for it. There is nothing natural about it. Get over your perversion.
@TheKinderhookPlates You DO know that I have the right to disagree with this horrendous sin right? You DO know that not everyone will be on board with this sin and have the RIGHT to disagree, this is AMERICA not the Middle East or any other opressive country where you cannot speak your mind you know that right? o.k just making sure were on the same page. Did you also know most people going to the e.r for torn anus' are gay people? get informed....
You have no proof that it's a sin. That's only your opinion.
You disagreeing with gays is fine, but what's NOT ok is you interfering with their civil rights. That's wrong, and you're wrong if you do that. Get informed, imbecile.
@TheKinderhookPlates You clearly need proof...so here you go...#1 the fact that gays cannot produce anything fruitful like children for instance the fact that most of them do not want to "come out of the closet" shows instintcual shame even to the non-religious liberal gays they are still ashamed of it. I would not be ashamed of something if it was not wrong or if it wasnt a sin. There is also proof with the spread of AIDS...Anything else?
@TheKinderhookPlates Please, regardless of your stance, it is quite presumptuous to assume the majority of art and culture was derived by homos. That makes the ignorant claim that heteros are incapable of expressing themselves artistically.
Well Atheists have their work cut out for them then- between Christians and Muslims they are still outmatched- Islam does not sanction homosexuality either- and they BEHEAD people for stuff like this.........
Prop 8 had nothing to do with religion. It's homosexuals demanding their rights as human beings. It's the religious people that see prop 8 as a move against religion, WHICH IT IS NOT. Feel sorry for the people that take things out of context and make things personal.
Lehi is the patriarch of a family that is fleeing Jerusalem in advance of the Babylonian Exile. He is directed in a dream to send his sons to obtain the brass plates (containing the law of Moses and other records) from a man named Laban. The fleeing family will need these records to preserve their language as they enter the wilderness and leave civilized society. The eldest son approaches Laban and simply asks for the record, but he is angrily rebuffed.
The brothers then try to buy it with gold and silver, but Laban simply confiscates their property and tries to kill them. Finally a younger brother named Nephi slips into the compound alone after dark and finds Laban alone, drunken with wine
First, let's talk about the Catherine's, Duchess of Cambridge (better known as Princess Kate's) wedding dress. I, along with many other women worldwide sacrificed a few hours of sleep on Friday morning, just to see a commoner marry a prince. Now, before you mock me, or laugh, let me remind you of a few things.
This wasn't just about watching the wedding of two people in the tabloids. This was about much, much more to every little girl who ever dreamed of growing up to marry her own handsome prince.
Members of the Fountain Valley Wards of the Huntington Beach Stake of the Church of Jesus Christ planted, weeded and mulched at Mile Square Park on Saturday.
The event was part of the state-wide Mormon Helping Hands 2011 Day of Service.
Archaeologists have know for about a century that gold plates with carved writing have been found in Mesoamerica, yet it is still not common knowledge outside their discipline.
The reason that religion seems so out of touch (and why religious leaders lack moral authority) is that they've failed to acknowledge the key ethical insight of 20th century. That is that one group cannot dominate another--one group has no god-given right to control another. This plays out in the end of colonialism, racism, sexism and homophobia. The Mormons are not under attack; they are the attackers here. The abuser somehow inexplicably becomes the victim!
Who is saying religious people can't practice their beliefs privately?
NOBODY.
The only reason proposition 8 won was because of lies and fear mongering.
There is no proposition to ban religion and there is an interesting lack of attacks on the church. Nothing compared to the hate crimes against gays/bisexuals. Currently it is legal in 30 states to fire someone based on sexual orientation, but illegal in all states to fire someone based on religion.
Religious freedom is not merely guaranteed in private, but in PUBLIC as well. Claiming that religious freedom only applies in private where no one can see you is like claiming free speech only applies when no one can hear you. Public religious practice and moral policy advocacy is a constitutional right and a hallmark of a healthy democracy. There is a growing tendency to portray the devout as contemptible. A society that adopts such a view of any group will eventually abuse its human rights.
If you read the early writings of Brother Oaks, you will see he once held strong economic fundamental values that dissolved into popular midstream fuzziness when he began to lust after admiration of those in the upper crust of hypocrisy in the legal realm. Shame on you, you sad example of one who can speak at different speed, color and direction per the colors of the day, and your security in the sacred pages of Inconsistent Legacy. Cloyd Bird showed me your early works: I understand his RAGE.
By some counts, a recent article in The Economist declares, there are at least 500 [million] declared non-believers in the world — enough to make atheism the fourth-biggest religion.[8] And atheisms spokesmen are aggressive, as recent publications show.[9] As noted by John A. Howard of the Howard Center for Family, Religion, and Society, these voices have developed great skills in demonizing those who disagree with them, turning their opponents into objects of fear, hatred and scorn.[10]
@DefendingMormonism Atheism is a religion. Why does the Mormon religion and the Christian religion think that they have the right to use their freedom of religion to overrule the freedom of religion of Atheism and other religions? The fact is the Mormon religion and the Christian religion does not have the authority to overrule the freedom of religion of Atheism or any other religion. There are some religions that believe in same-sex marriage. Prop 8 just overruled their freedom of religion.
The extent and nature of religious devotion in this nation is changing. The tide of public opinion in favor of religion is receding, and this probably portends public pressures for laws that will impinge on religious freedom.
Atheism has always been hostile to religion, such as in its arguments that freedom of or for religion should include freedom from religion. Atheisms threat rises as its proponents grow in numbers and aggressiveness.
@DefendingMormonism It seems like people make atheists out to be some kind of godless animals. Like they're a threat to religion and they're a threat to the world. They're not. They just don't believe in God. It's okay for a Christian to demonize an atheist, but God forbid an atheist express his views. It's hard to explain the non-believers plight. You look at the world completely different. You realize that 80% of the world believes in something no one has ever seen or heard.
@Mysteryskatin "You realize that 80% of the world believes in something no one has ever seen or heard. " That is not true. The prophet Joseph Smith saw both Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ. In the bible there are other accounts of people seeing God. Christian people have Faith. Just like Scientists. Science is largely guess work. How can one oppose religion due to a lack of fact... When Scientists work with only "theories" or guess work.
@PhroshStar In the Bible there are accounts, yes. But as for historical accounts from civilizations, no, there aren't. Science is guess work, and it isn't considered fact until there is substantial evidence, then it is no longer guess work. Religion skips the second point.
A theory isn't accepted until it has been proven, which it then is no longer a theory, but a law.
As for Joseph Smith seeing the Heavenly Father, I don't believe it for a second. He was tried by the U.S. government, actually.
"Science is largely guess work"? Theories aren't guess work, they're conjectures based on evidence, observation, and reason. Most every we know about our work - based on science or not - started with a theory.
A writer for The Christian Science Monitor predicts that the coming century will be very secular and religiously antagonistic, with intolerance of Christianity ris[ing] to levels many of us have not believed possible in our lifetimes.[6] Other wise observers have noted the ever-growing, relentless attack on the Christian religion by forces who reject the existence or authority of God.[7]
@DefendingMormonism That our politicians base policies according to their religious beliefs. That religion has a very good chance of destroying this world. We developed nuclear fission before we realized that we were believing in something that has no basis in fact. Some things that can be right out scientifically disproved if you take religion literally.
And I'm not even an atheist.
A study showed atheists know more about religion than the average religious person. I'm not surprised.
Some have tried to argue that the "gods" of Psalm 82 were actually human judges. But this claim has fallen sharply out of favor among scholars over the past century. Moreover, Jesus' citation of a metaphorical use of the term "god" wouldn't go very far toward justifying his claim of literal divinity.
The consensus of modern biblical scholarship, by contrast, holds that the beings addressed as "gods" in Psalm 82 are, in fact, members of the heavenly divine court. The notion of such a court was common not only in ancient Israel but in surrounding nations. In Israelite belief, especially with the passage of time, the members of the court were thought to be angels.
After Nephi's broken-bow incident the Lehites continued on their journey until the death of Ishmael. "And (he) was buried," wrote Nephi, "in the place which was called Nahom" (1 Nephi 17: 24).
Elder Ronald A. Rasband, Senior President of the Presidency of the Seventy, presided over the official creation of the new Tremonton, Utah West Stake during a special LDS stake conference Sunday in Tremonton.
In February 1967, Markham enrolled in the University of Connecticut pharmacy school, where he graduated after 2-1/2 years of intense study.
He landed his first job at the Norwalk (Conn.) Hospital pharmacy and admittedly avoided talking on the telephone. Markham said he got even more motivation to improve on his stuttering from the Mormon church, which he was later baptized into and remains a member to this day.
I agree, It is total sophistry to pretend Prop 8 was a victory for religious freedom. Figures FOX and the Cons love that sort of BS since they always pretend that religious people are a persecuted minority
ironic that people use the word "religion" before they use the word "spirituality". sad how many people practice their "religion" without first developing their spirituality. without it, your religion is dead.
@omiolo lol what word games do you refer to? the ones where you are confounded by your own doctrines because you are a hypocrite?
in the mean time here's a question that Alma asks of you in Alma 5:28:
"Behold, are ye stripped of pride? I say unto you, if ye are not ye are not prepared to meet God. Behold ye must prepare quickly; for the kingdom of heaven is soon at hand, and such an one hath not eternal life. "
@omiolo wow, that is amazing. that is the first time you have ever answered a question, though i don't believe you mean it. but perhaps you do. so now that we have established you our human like the rest of us and have a vice, here is another question from Alma 5:30 "And again I say unto you, is there one among you that doth make a mock of his brother, or that heapeth upon him persecutions?"
@omiolo still bearing false witness against me... i am not anti-mormon, i am anti-ignorance, anti-bigot, anti-self righteous, anti-condescending and anti-holier-than-thou.
SALT LAKE CITY — The unannounced, unofficial opening of the new LDS Church online store has been a great success with more than 200,000 viewers checking out the site and more than 3,000 placing orders.
'80s commercial: Through the amazing power of YouTube, As Sistas in Zion unearths this 1980s LDS commercial called "Who Broke My Window?" starring a young Alfonso Ribeiro, who would later gain fame playing Carlton Banks on the "Fresh Prince of Bel Air." Fun! Enjoy this bit of musical nostalgia.
Elder Paul E. Koelliker of the Seventy and Africa Southeast Area President presided over the event. In attendance, also, were Elders F. Michael Watson and Dale G. Renlund of the Seventy, Counselors in the Area Presidency.
Before an audience of more than 200 honored guests, including numerous government and media officials, Mrs. Albertina Sisulu was awarded the Family Value Award, and Mr. Malusi Gigaba, Deputy Minister of Home Affairs of South Africa, was honored for his work in the fight against pornography.
1832 April, taught by Orson Pratt, Hemispheric setting *** “Six hundred years before Christ a certain prophet called Lehi went out to declare and promulgate the prophecies to come; he came across the water into South America.” He continues” The last battle that was fought among these parties was on the very ground where the plates were found, but it had been a running battle, for they commenced at the Isthmus of Darien and ended at Manchester.”
Actually, I love seeing your crazy spam. Since it makes no sense, it comes off as desparate and kooky. You're actually HELPING the "anti's" by scaring people away. And you don't just do it here, you spam everywhere! So keep it up, I love to see a crazy false religion like Mormonism lose....
And you're calling names as usual. Nothing of substance, just crazy spam fragments that don't make sense.... and you are completely impotent when it comes to defending your church. You don't even know how to start...
1832 March, taught by Missionaries Hemispheric setting *** This article mentions Lehi landing in South America, and the final battles between the Nephites and Lamanites were “fought nigh to the straits of Darien, and the last at a hill called Comoro” 7
I think I'll call it... "You don't know what you're talking about."
And I love how you're helping people see how crazy your church is by posting all your crazy non-sequitur (look it up) spam. You see, your spam messages don't help anyone like your church, because they are fragments that don't make sense. They make people wonder why your church would need to stuff the comments box with pro-mormon dribble... what are you trying to hide?
Periodically, Mormon Times has printed lists of these not-so-common things to look for in and around Temple Square. Here is a compilation of those lists
Comparing the blow-back the Mormons received from Prop 8 (where they took away civil rights from gays), to the intimidation blacks experienced during the civil rights movement is ludicrous and shameful. Dallin Oaks, in his ivory tower, clearly does not have any grasp on reality.
If we didn't know better, we might have trouble picturing the ancient patriarchs as cheery and friendly men. But the restored gospel clears this up. God doesn't call grumps to be his chief ambassadors. That would be bad press
Cure racing: a Musing Mother beautifully recounts her experience at last weekend's "Susan G. Komen Salt Lake City 2010" event, in both photos and prose: "One more Mother's Day spent with my mom, the bravest woman I know. A woman who didn't understand the doctor who said words like 'terminal,' 'incurable,' 'metastasize.' All she heard was 'miracle.'
None will deny that many vagaries and problems exist in the text of Exodus 19—33, which describes the experience of the Israelites at Sinai. Scholars cannot agree upon how many authors are involved,5 nor can they come to a consensus concerning the date of the composition of the material.6 But the current text gives convincing evidence that Mount Sinai was indeed the first sanctuary of Israel. With this in mind, we will proceed with Lundquist's first motif.
@ScienceReasonBelief I just thought the IMMATURE try to puff themselves up to make them seem intellectual in their own eyes, while the actual EDUCATED people call them out on their "word mincing", bait and switches", and stupidity.
To this Lundquist added, "the temple of Solomon would seem ultimately to be little more than the architectural realization and the ritual enlargement of the Sinai experience."4
Of course, Mount Sinai was not a temple built of marble or cedar, for it is not necessary for a sanctuary to be an edifice or structure.2 Rather, Sinai was a sacred place built by Yahweh himself (Exodus 15:17) and, as such, was the precursor and prototype of later Israelite sanctuaries, the model from which later temples were copied. As Freedman has stated, Sinai was "the sanctuary which served as a model for all the replicas, especially the tabernacle and the temple in Jerusalem.
whatever. you can play insult games and stay ignorant, or you can look up the idiom "bait and switch" and see what it really means.
you know, you give yourself away as a kid because of this kind of immaturity. you're about 12, right? certainly no more than 14.
and that's no insult, just an observation. after all, who else but a kid would think that spamming this religious crap everywhere would actually help his church?
Such motifs as the cosmic mountain, the waters of life, the sacred repast, sacrificial ordinances, religious laws, divine revelation, and other features associated with Sinai will be examined. Indeed, in many ways, events at Mount Sinai were related to the temple worship later found at the tabernacle and the temple of Jerusalem.
John Lundquist, in his paper "What Is a Temple? A Preliminary Typology," listed several types and motifs that are common among many ancient Near Eastern temples.1 This paper demonstrates that Mount Sinai also served as a sanctuary—the first Israelite sanctuary—and that many of the motifs listed by Lundquist in his article are also found at Sinai.
Central to Israelite religion was its temple worship. Large sections of the Old Testament describe temple service, detailing the various sacrifices, the laws relating to purity, the rites and ceremonies of the priests, and their vestments. Many passages specify the precise dimensions of both the tabernacle and temple of Jerusalem.
You really need to learn what idioms mean before you use them... because you always get them wrong. That's not what a bait and switch is. Why don't you go and look it up so you don't look like a fool?
1831 Feb. taught by Missionaries, North American setting *** “An early account mentioned that the missionaries asked the ‘brethren of the reformation…to receive their mission and book as from heaven, which they said chiefly concerned the western Indians, as being an account of their origin, and a prophecy of their final conversion to [C]hristianity, and made them a white and delightsome people, and be reinstated in the possessing of their lands of which they have been despoiled by the whites’
It's too bad you weren't smart enough to understand what I wrote. I'll try to explain in a way that your puny brain might understand.
Since prophets don't exist, then someone who claims to be a prophet is making a FALSE claim, therefore they are a FALSE prophet-- because prophets DON'T exist.
Was that easy enough for your simple intellect to comprehend?
1830 Nov., taught by Missionaries, Hemispheric setting*** The Lehites “landed on the coast of Chili [sic] 600” B.C.,and from them descended all the Indians of America.” 5
@ScienceReasonBelief In order to have false prophets, you must have true prophets. Please let me know how they are then?? Or is this your TYPICAL ANTImormon EMPTY rhetoric?
The Church has also collected 10 tractor-trailer loads of emergency provisions that will be shipped via sea to Pakistan with the assistance of an established partner, Islamic Relief USA.
The Church and its partners have stepped forward to help. Under the direction of the Presiding Bishopric, the Church is providing relief aid to assist the millions in need. On Aug. 25, the Church announced it was distributing supplies purchased in Pakistan with the cooperation of the humanitarian relief agencies International Relief and Development, International Medical Corps and Saba Aslam Welfare and Trust.
That meeting in the Church Administration Building in Salt Lake City on Tuesday, 24 August, followed meetings in February and May in Beijing, attended by Church apostle Elder Dallin H. Oaks and Elder Donald L. Hallstrom, who are responsible for overseeing the Church in Asia, on assignment from the First Presidency. These meetings were initiated by the Chinese representative.
The lovable Mormon minstrels recorded a series of brilliantly vibrant, harmony-drenched psychedelic pop songs. Perhaps it's time for us to regard them as a
KIEV, Ukraine — The first temple lesson learned by LDS Church members attending Sunday's cornerstone ceremony of the Kyiv Ukraine Temple was to share.
You see, the Kyiv temple — the first built by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Eastern Europe as well as in the former Soviet Union — is not Ukraine's anymore.
President Monson’s history in this part of the world began in 1968, five years after he was called to the Quorum of the Twelve, when he was assigned to oversee the work in countries in Eastern Europe behind the figurative Iron Curtain and the literal Berlin Wall.
Iryna Nekrasova, who supervised the music for events pertaining to the dedication of the Kyiv Ukraine Temple, helps a youngster apply mortar to the temple's cornerstone.
President Thomas S. Monson selected several youth from the audience to assist with the cornerstone ceremony prior to dedicating the Kyiv Ukraine Temple.
@omiolo You Crazies honestly think that you can only get MORALITY From GOD???? Since when have the religious right had sole claim to a concept with its origins OUTSIDE religion??? Wow you really don't have any arguments do you?
Actually, you can! Mr. Hitchens, however combative he may be (and a pain the the arse to you silly theists), does believe in humanistic values, from whence he gets his sense of morality.
You Mix Religion and Politics. I am not of your Faith and you have no authority to preach to me. Your Hatred is unchristian. Do not take away my Free will It was given to me by God. Do not mislead the Children of God. Keep your Hate with in the walls of your Church. And out of My Freedom of Religion. And out of the laws of this Country.
Homosexuals pervert God's creation. All civilizations since time began recognize homoseuality as PERVERSION. Perversion is perversion. Beastiality is perverted Sex agreed. Homosexuals same thing.
Marriage is about SEX! Gay and Lesbian is SEX! Without sex and you are not homosexual, no sex no marriage. Sex consumates the marriage no sex is grounds for disanullment of marriage legally. Homosexuals pervert God's creation. All civilizations since time began recognize homoseuality as PERVERSION. Perversion is perversion. Beastiality is perverted Sex agreed. Homosexuals same thing.
@SECRETbkcvenant -"Marriage is about SEX!" - Is that what you believe ? What a pitiful , narrow minded excuse for a human being you are ! What a miserable lonely life you must lead ..... It's no wonder you are afraid of living in the real world.
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If being gay or lesbian is a choice, then that implies that every heterosexual man or woman must ask themselves and invision themselves having sex with a man or woman of the same sex and then decide to be a heterosexual or homosexual, however if you ask, or invision yourself doing this then you have commited a thought crime (sin). and the second you think this then you are gay and have homo tendencies. I asked a Mormon this and he told me that even jesus went through this so GOD is a homo.
silverhike11 3 months ago
Elder Oaks is right on in describing the effects of the radical homosexual agenda. Those extremists hide behind the word "tolerance" when they display absolutely zero tolerance for others.
LyleDJ 5 months ago
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TheKinderhookPlates 1 month ago
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@LyleDJ
"Elder" Oaks is dead wrong in his comments. Just because you accuse gays of being intolerant doesn't mean that you're not intolerant or extremist. You still are!
Gays getting married doesn't affect the practice of your religion nor your everyday life. However, you telling gays they can't get married DOES affect their lives, every day.
Gays are happy to let you people have your religion.... but you can't dictate civil rights.
So much for your zero tolerance argument.
TheKinderhookPlates 1 month ago
@TheKinderhookPlates Actually, yes; redefining marriage has already led to many infringements on the rights of individuals and religious groups to practice their faith as their conscience dictates. Public servants in Canada may be sued for refusing to perform a same-gender marriage even if they refer the couple to someone who will. A Methodist boardwalk chapel in Mass had it's tax-exemption revoked because it didn't allow a same-gender marriage on it's premise. cont...
danewage 1 week ago
@TheKinderhookPlates ...Mormon chapels were vandalized because of their support for Prop 8; elementary-aged children are being forced to attend sex-ed courses (formerly optional) that are now teaching same-sex activities, and parents have no say in the matter.
These are but a few things going down with the destruction of the definition of marriage (and we still don't know how far-reaching it will end up). So do religious people have cause to fear for their rights of free expression? Yes.
danewage 1 week ago
@danewage
Your comment is full of lies that you obviously believe. How sad.
Like it or not, gays have been dominant in arts & culture for centuries.
There's no children being forced to listen to sex education. As always, sex-ed classes are something parents can opt their children out of. That was the case before Prop 8, and it hasn't changed because of it.
If a civil servant can't perform their job of serving ALL of the public, should that person BE in that job? No.
TheKinderhookPlates 4 days ago
@danewage
Part 2.
In the case of the Methodist church, they did NOT lose their tax exemption on their chapel. They lost it ONLY on a pavilion that had been open for everyone to use... in other words, there to serve the public. The Methodist group could no more refuse to accommodate the gay couple than a restaurant could refuse to serve a black man.
Answer this... what makes you think your religious rights are more important than a gay person's civil rights? Are you better than them?
TheKinderhookPlates 4 days ago
Angel Moroni statue being placed on Brigham City Temple Tuesday
Cache Valley Daily
omiolo 6 months ago
According to the Box Elder News Journal, Brigham City officials are coordinating with LDS church officials as they are expecting a large crowd to be in attendance. The four streets along the temple block (Main Street, 200 South, 100 West and 300 South) ...
omiolo 6 months ago
My concern only increased when my Mormon student introduced herself - seated straight-backed next to a southern Baptist - with the words: "I am a Mormon which means that, yes, I am a Christian, despite what any of you think. .
omiolo 6 months ago
In recent history, authorities of the LDS Church have stayed out of direct participation in partisan politics, but that has not always been the case. Church founder Joseph Smith ran for US president in 1844, the year he was killed by a mob. .
omiolo 6 months ago
The concept of covenant Israel is an eternal one for Mormons, and Leslie presents the scriptural record of Israelites in a clear and logical way. The title of the book comes from a scripture in the LDS book Doctrine and Covenants (D&C 86:9) that addresses the "lawful heirs" of the covenant who serve as a "light unto the Gentiles."
omiolo 6 months ago
This topic is of great interest to Mormons, who believe that they are members of the House of Israel and receive blessings from "patriarchs" that assign them to an Israelite tribe through which they will receive their ultimate spiritual blessings. .
omiolo 6 months ago
You say nothing whatever about Prop 8, its relevance to religion or to your Church, which thinks it a threat. Were not Church monies spent to fight it, thus breaching the wall of separation you concede is valuable?
I submit that your Church, in denying same-sex couples their right to marry, does to them what the South did to blacks, and with identical motives: It relegates them to a lesser status and denies them priviliges accorded others out of ignorance, bigotry and insufferable hubris.
ejack2000 6 months ago
Apostle Creates First Stake in Russia
omiolo 7 months ago
That is if you're Mormon. With the pressure to get married pretty intense among Mormons, a new church in the DC area calling itself the "23 rd Street Chapel" is seeking to put members on the fast track to marriage -- by separating them from the married ..
omiolo 7 months ago
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Homosexuality is defined by sex. Heterosexuality is defined by God. Homosexuality cannot be defined by marriage, it cannot be defined by children, and it will never be defined by love. Homosexuality is defined by a perverted sexual act. May God's love and mercy shine like a rainbow on our brothers and sisters struggling with sexual addiction and perversion.
jmoonsuede 7 months ago 9
@jmoonsuede homosexuality AND heterosexuality are defined by love, not some fictional creature
mermaidsareppl222 6 months ago
@mermaidsareppl222 Hahaha if thats what you think, I'd get a real education before I make a statement like that.
jmoonsuede 6 months ago 6
@jmoonsuede i do have a real education, thats why i know thats the truth
mermaidsareppl222 6 months ago
@mermaidsareppl222 Do you know how many people get torned anus' because of disgusting homosexual behaviors?! You need to stop and think objectivley before defending this grotesque sin, that needs a law to be passed so people(sheeple like you)like you can think it's o.k and normal WHICH IS ANYTHING BUT!
WAKE UP AND THINK FOR YOURSELF! AND THE GAYS CALL US INTOLERANT HA!
jmoonsuede 6 months ago
@jmoonsuede your the one telling me all this religious bs and yet im supposed to think for myself?
your homophobia is not ok nor is it natural, yet you seem to think it is ok and natural
mermaidsareppl222 6 months ago
@jmoonsuede No, Your doing it wrong. Use lots of lube and work it in slow. Why don’t we hook up and I can show you. I'm big, but will be gentle with your ass. I’ll see you’ll enjoy it. You god bothers always make the hottest fucks.
bommmmmmmm 6 months ago
@bommmmmmmm Actually thats why people like you end up contracting HIV because you rather inject your seeds of life into shit and call it "love making" your a disgusting bunch and I have every right to be disgusted by a sinful faget like you. Sorry the gay community has the highest rates of HIV(mostly among the males) but you guys are just plain and simple asking for it. There is nothing natural about it. Get over your perversion.
jmoonsuede 6 months ago
@jmoonsuede Noop. Not guilty. Im negative and always use condoms when I fuck and on that note - would you like me to give you one up the arse?
bommmmmmmm 6 months ago
@jmoonsuede
You DO know that heterosexuals also have anal sex, right? You're not using any objectivity here if you ignore that fact.
So much for your concept of "sin". Don't be foolish.
TheKinderhookPlates 1 month ago
@TheKinderhookPlates You DO know that I have the right to disagree with this horrendous sin right? You DO know that not everyone will be on board with this sin and have the RIGHT to disagree, this is AMERICA not the Middle East or any other opressive country where you cannot speak your mind you know that right? o.k just making sure were on the same page. Did you also know most people going to the e.r for torn anus' are gay people? get informed....
jmoonsuede 1 month ago
@jmoonsuede
You have no proof that it's a sin. That's only your opinion.
You disagreeing with gays is fine, but what's NOT ok is you interfering with their civil rights. That's wrong, and you're wrong if you do that. Get informed, imbecile.
TheKinderhookPlates 1 month ago 2
@TheKinderhookPlates You clearly need proof...so here you go...#1 the fact that gays cannot produce anything fruitful like children for instance the fact that most of them do not want to "come out of the closet" shows instintcual shame even to the non-religious liberal gays they are still ashamed of it. I would not be ashamed of something if it was not wrong or if it wasnt a sin. There is also proof with the spread of AIDS...Anything else?
jmoonsuede 1 month ago
@jmoonsuede
Are you really that stupid? Looks like it!
Gays can't produce anything fruitful? How about being THE major influence on the arts & culture for CENTURIES?
And by your "fruitful" standard, senior & infertile couples are sinning, too.
Gays don't come out of the closet because of imbeciles like you treating them so badly. Nothing to do with instinct! Sure, blame the victim!
And there's FAR more hetero's with AIDS than gays.
Anything else, stupid? You need help!
TheKinderhookPlates 1 month ago
@TheKinderhookPlates Please, regardless of your stance, it is quite presumptuous to assume the majority of art and culture was derived by homos. That makes the ignorant claim that heteros are incapable of expressing themselves artistically.
danewage 1 week ago
@jmoonsuede
Wait.... you said you were going to give proof.... but there wasn't any in your response. Fail.
TheKinderhookPlates 4 days ago
@mermaidsareppl222 "homosexuality AND heterosexuality are defined by love"
WHAT? Where did you get that from?
omiolo 6 months ago
@omiolo common sense, and it fits better than jmoonsuedes comment
mermaidsareppl222 6 months ago
@mermaidsareppl222 "common sense"
or lack of?
omiolo 6 months ago
@omiolo no its common sense
mermaidsareppl222 6 months ago
@mermaidsareppl222 no its not common sense.... it is the lack of.
omiolo 6 months ago
@omiolo prove me wrong
mermaidsareppl222 6 months ago
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@mermaidsareppl222 "prove me wrong "
look up the definition of love and then get back to me.
omiolo 6 months ago
Well Atheists have their work cut out for them then- between Christians and Muslims they are still outmatched- Islam does not sanction homosexuality either- and they BEHEAD people for stuff like this.........
teceyS3 8 months ago
Prop 8 had nothing to do with religion. It's homosexuals demanding their rights as human beings. It's the religious people that see prop 8 as a move against religion, WHICH IT IS NOT. Feel sorry for the people that take things out of context and make things personal.
pokermon919 8 months ago
Lehi is the patriarch of a family that is fleeing Jerusalem in advance of the Babylonian Exile. He is directed in a dream to send his sons to obtain the brass plates (containing the law of Moses and other records) from a man named Laban. The fleeing family will need these records to preserve their language as they enter the wilderness and leave civilized society. The eldest son approaches Laban and simply asks for the record, but he is angrily rebuffed.
omiolo 8 months ago
The brothers then try to buy it with gold and silver, but Laban simply confiscates their property and tries to kill them. Finally a younger brother named Nephi slips into the compound alone after dark and finds Laban alone, drunken with wine
omiolo 8 months ago
First, let's talk about the Catherine's, Duchess of Cambridge (better known as Princess Kate's) wedding dress. I, along with many other women worldwide sacrificed a few hours of sleep on Friday morning, just to see a commoner marry a prince. Now, before you mock me, or laugh, let me remind you of a few things.
omiolo 8 months ago
This wasn't just about watching the wedding of two people in the tabloids. This was about much, much more to every little girl who ever dreamed of growing up to marry her own handsome prince.
omiolo 8 months ago
Paige, Cora and Sara Davis take a water break during the Mormon Helping Hands 2011 Day of Service in Fountain Valley.
omiolo 8 months ago
Members of the Fountain Valley Wards of the Huntington Beach Stake of the Church of Jesus Christ planted, weeded and mulched at Mile Square Park on Saturday.
The event was part of the state-wide Mormon Helping Hands 2011 Day of Service.
omiolo 8 months ago
Archaeologists have know for about a century that gold plates with carved writing have been found in Mesoamerica, yet it is still not common knowledge outside their discipline.
It all began with Edward Herbert Thompson.
omiolo 8 months ago
Ancient gold plates in Mesoamerica
Mormon Times
omiolo 8 months ago
Mormons have no say in anything. Fucking retards.
spearrbk 8 months ago
Gays do NOT have the right to REDEFINE marriage.
omiolo 9 months ago
@omiolo Why does it bother you so much
spearrbk 8 months ago
@spearrbk How would you like it if I REDEFINE words that mean a LOT to you?
omiolo 8 months ago
@omiolo It wouldn't directly affect me, so go for it.
spearrbk 8 months ago
@spearrbk I think the GAY community would be pretty upset if I redefined the word GAY to include INCEST.
omiolo 8 months ago
@omiolo That's completely irrelevant. You're comparing things that are nothing alike.
spearrbk 8 months ago
@spearrbk Why? Or does saying make it so, or because that is what you are told to say?
omiolo 8 months ago
The reason that religion seems so out of touch (and why religious leaders lack moral authority) is that they've failed to acknowledge the key ethical insight of 20th century. That is that one group cannot dominate another--one group has no god-given right to control another. This plays out in the end of colonialism, racism, sexism and homophobia. The Mormons are not under attack; they are the attackers here. The abuser somehow inexplicably becomes the victim!
zubDabber 10 months ago
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isudhfjdqweiyghd 11 months ago
@zergnerd what I mean by private is in a way that
Doesn't impose itself on unwilling people. If marriage
Is a religious affair as some claim, then regulate
It within your own churches, and not for other people
Who want nothing to do with your beliefs. Prop 8 was
A religious proposition because the reasoning in
Banning samesex marriage is religious and not legal.
Religion was imposed on the people which goes against
The first ammendment
Dro8900 11 months ago
I love it when the bully plays the victim.
Who is saying religious people can't practice their beliefs privately?
NOBODY.
The only reason proposition 8 won was because of lies and fear mongering.
There is no proposition to ban religion and there is an interesting lack of attacks on the church. Nothing compared to the hate crimes against gays/bisexuals. Currently it is legal in 30 states to fire someone based on sexual orientation, but illegal in all states to fire someone based on religion.
Dro8900 11 months ago
Religious freedom is not merely guaranteed in private, but in PUBLIC as well. Claiming that religious freedom only applies in private where no one can see you is like claiming free speech only applies when no one can hear you. Public religious practice and moral policy advocacy is a constitutional right and a hallmark of a healthy democracy. There is a growing tendency to portray the devout as contemptible. A society that adopts such a view of any group will eventually abuse its human rights.
zergnerd 11 months ago
If you read the early writings of Brother Oaks, you will see he once held strong economic fundamental values that dissolved into popular midstream fuzziness when he began to lust after admiration of those in the upper crust of hypocrisy in the legal realm. Shame on you, you sad example of one who can speak at different speed, color and direction per the colors of the day, and your security in the sacred pages of Inconsistent Legacy. Cloyd Bird showed me your early works: I understand his RAGE.
PaulGiffs 1 year ago
There is an LDS Judge on the Prop 8 appeal. Hopefully we can get some sensibility to the issue.
omiolo 1 year ago
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othaminjaresjdl 1 year ago
By some counts, a recent article in The Economist declares, there are at least 500 [million] declared non-believers in the world — enough to make atheism the fourth-biggest religion.[8] And atheisms spokesmen are aggressive, as recent publications show.[9] As noted by John A. Howard of the Howard Center for Family, Religion, and Society, these voices have developed great skills in demonizing those who disagree with them, turning their opponents into objects of fear, hatred and scorn.[10]
DefendingMormonism 1 year ago
@DefendingMormonism Atheism is a religion. Why does the Mormon religion and the Christian religion think that they have the right to use their freedom of religion to overrule the freedom of religion of Atheism and other religions? The fact is the Mormon religion and the Christian religion does not have the authority to overrule the freedom of religion of Atheism or any other religion. There are some religions that believe in same-sex marriage. Prop 8 just overruled their freedom of religion.
Angeleer8 10 months ago
The extent and nature of religious devotion in this nation is changing. The tide of public opinion in favor of religion is receding, and this probably portends public pressures for laws that will impinge on religious freedom.
Atheism has always been hostile to religion, such as in its arguments that freedom of or for religion should include freedom from religion. Atheisms threat rises as its proponents grow in numbers and aggressiveness.
DefendingMormonism 1 year ago
@DefendingMormonism It seems like people make atheists out to be some kind of godless animals. Like they're a threat to religion and they're a threat to the world. They're not. They just don't believe in God. It's okay for a Christian to demonize an atheist, but God forbid an atheist express his views. It's hard to explain the non-believers plight. You look at the world completely different. You realize that 80% of the world believes in something no one has ever seen or heard.
Mysteryskatin 1 year ago
@Mysteryskatin "You realize that 80% of the world believes in something no one has ever seen or heard. " That is not true. The prophet Joseph Smith saw both Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ. In the bible there are other accounts of people seeing God. Christian people have Faith. Just like Scientists. Science is largely guess work. How can one oppose religion due to a lack of fact... When Scientists work with only "theories" or guess work.
PhroshStar 11 months ago
@PhroshStar In the Bible there are accounts, yes. But as for historical accounts from civilizations, no, there aren't. Science is guess work, and it isn't considered fact until there is substantial evidence, then it is no longer guess work. Religion skips the second point.
A theory isn't accepted until it has been proven, which it then is no longer a theory, but a law.
As for Joseph Smith seeing the Heavenly Father, I don't believe it for a second. He was tried by the U.S. government, actually.
Mysteryskatin 11 months ago
@PhroshStar
"Science is largely guess work"? Theories aren't guess work, they're conjectures based on evidence, observation, and reason. Most every we know about our work - based on science or not - started with a theory.
artizek 10 months ago
A writer for The Christian Science Monitor predicts that the coming century will be very secular and religiously antagonistic, with intolerance of Christianity ris[ing] to levels many of us have not believed possible in our lifetimes.[6] Other wise observers have noted the ever-growing, relentless attack on the Christian religion by forces who reject the existence or authority of God.[7]
DefendingMormonism 1 year ago
@DefendingMormonism That our politicians base policies according to their religious beliefs. That religion has a very good chance of destroying this world. We developed nuclear fission before we realized that we were believing in something that has no basis in fact. Some things that can be right out scientifically disproved if you take religion literally.
And I'm not even an atheist.
A study showed atheists know more about religion than the average religious person. I'm not surprised.
Mysteryskatin 1 year ago
Some have tried to argue that the "gods" of Psalm 82 were actually human judges. But this claim has fallen sharply out of favor among scholars over the past century. Moreover, Jesus' citation of a metaphorical use of the term "god" wouldn't go very far toward justifying his claim of literal divinity.
omiolo 1 year ago
The consensus of modern biblical scholarship, by contrast, holds that the beings addressed as "gods" in Psalm 82 are, in fact, members of the heavenly divine court. The notion of such a court was common not only in ancient Israel but in surrounding nations. In Israelite belief, especially with the passage of time, the members of the court were thought to be angels.
omiolo 1 year ago
After Nephi's broken-bow incident the Lehites continued on their journey until the death of Ishmael. "And (he) was buried," wrote Nephi, "in the place which was called Nahom" (1 Nephi 17: 24).
omiolo 1 year ago
Elder Ronald A. Rasband, Senior President of the Presidency of the Seventy, presided over the official creation of the new Tremonton, Utah West Stake during a special LDS stake conference Sunday in Tremonton.
omiolo 1 year ago
In February 1967, Markham enrolled in the University of Connecticut pharmacy school, where he graduated after 2-1/2 years of intense study.
He landed his first job at the Norwalk (Conn.) Hospital pharmacy and admittedly avoided talking on the telephone. Markham said he got even more motivation to improve on his stuttering from the Mormon church, which he was later baptized into and remains a member to this day.
omiolo 1 year ago
The civil rights analogy is more aptly applied to the LGBT community... sophistry doesn't become you, Elder Oaks.
908381stud 1 year ago
I agree, It is total sophistry to pretend Prop 8 was a victory for religious freedom. Figures FOX and the Cons love that sort of BS since they always pretend that religious people are a persecuted minority
EsClayWilson 1 year ago
ironic that people use the word "religion" before they use the word "spirituality". sad how many people practice their "religion" without first developing their spirituality. without it, your religion is dead.
SvenTveskegg 1 year ago
@SvenTveskegg sad that people like you play word games!
omiolo 1 year ago
@omiolo lol what word games do you refer to? the ones where you are confounded by your own doctrines because you are a hypocrite?
in the mean time here's a question that Alma asks of you in Alma 5:28:
"Behold, are ye stripped of pride? I say unto you, if ye are not ye are not prepared to meet God. Behold ye must prepare quickly; for the kingdom of heaven is soon at hand, and such an one hath not eternal life. "
yikes!
SvenTveskegg 1 year ago
@SvenTveskegg NOPE
omiolo 1 year ago
@omiolo wow, that is amazing. that is the first time you have ever answered a question, though i don't believe you mean it. but perhaps you do. so now that we have established you our human like the rest of us and have a vice, here is another question from Alma 5:30 "And again I say unto you, is there one among you that doth make a mock of his brother, or that heapeth upon him persecutions?"
SvenTveskegg 1 year ago
@SvenTveskegg I think your ANTImormon buddy on the Matthew 24:14 wants to chat with you! Great types you ANTImormons are......
omiolo 1 year ago
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@omiolo still bearing false witness against me... i am not anti-mormon, i am anti-ignorance, anti-bigot, anti-self righteous, anti-condescending and anti-holier-than-thou.
so are you going to answer the question or not?
SvenTveskegg 1 year ago
SALT LAKE CITY — The unannounced, unofficial opening of the new LDS Church online store has been a great success with more than 200,000 viewers checking out the site and more than 3,000 placing orders.
omiolo 1 year ago
@omiolo can't wait to spend my money htere
EsClayWilson 1 year ago
@EsClayWilson where?
omiolo 1 year ago
THE Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is gearing up for its upcoming Cebu City Philippines Temple open house
omiolo 1 year ago
'80s commercial: Through the amazing power of YouTube, As Sistas in Zion unearths this 1980s LDS commercial called "Who Broke My Window?" starring a young Alfonso Ribeiro, who would later gain fame playing Carlton Banks on the "Fresh Prince of Bel Air." Fun! Enjoy this bit of musical nostalgia.
omiolo 1 year ago
@omiolo
Thanks for helping the anti-mormons by showing how crazy mormonism is thru your spamming :)
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
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@ScienceReasonBelief So first you were trying to STOP me, but now you are telling me how great it is??
I wish I could see through your DOUBLE - TALK
omiolo 1 year ago
Those two years spent in outback Western Australia, knocking on doors and spreading the Mormon word halted Rapana's rugby league career
omiolo 1 year ago
In 1854, the Mormon church dispatched elder Seth M. Blair on a mission trip to the outpost near the confluence of the Little and Brazos rivers.
omiolo 1 year ago
Elder Paul E. Koelliker of the Seventy and Africa Southeast Area President presided over the event. In attendance, also, were Elders F. Michael Watson and Dale G. Renlund of the Seventy, Counselors in the Area Presidency.
omiolo 1 year ago
Before an audience of more than 200 honored guests, including numerous government and media officials, Mrs. Albertina Sisulu was awarded the Family Value Award, and Mr. Malusi Gigaba, Deputy Minister of Home Affairs of South Africa, was honored for his work in the fight against pornography.
omiolo 1 year ago
1832 April, taught by Orson Pratt, Hemispheric setting *** “Six hundred years before Christ a certain prophet called Lehi went out to declare and promulgate the prophecies to come; he came across the water into South America.” He continues” The last battle that was fought among these parties was on the very ground where the plates were found, but it had been a running battle, for they commenced at the Isthmus of Darien and ended at Manchester.”
omiolo 1 year ago
@omiolo
Actually, I love seeing your crazy spam. Since it makes no sense, it comes off as desparate and kooky. You're actually HELPING the "anti's" by scaring people away. And you don't just do it here, you spam everywhere! So keep it up, I love to see a crazy false religion like Mormonism lose....
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief What I think you love is your OWN self aggrandizement!
omiolo 1 year ago
@omiolo
And you're calling names as usual. Nothing of substance, just crazy spam fragments that don't make sense.... and you are completely impotent when it comes to defending your church. You don't even know how to start...
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief STOP your WHINING!!!
omiolo 1 year ago
@omiolo
That's not whining, silly girl. That's calling things as they plainly are. By the way, thanks for helping the "anti's" show how crazy your church is!
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief right, that isn't whiiinnninnngg..........
omiolo 1 year ago
1832 March, taught by Missionaries Hemispheric setting *** This article mentions Lehi landing in South America, and the final battles between the Nephites and Lamanites were “fought nigh to the straits of Darien, and the last at a hill called Comoro” 7
omiolo 1 year ago
"Obviously, he's a little older after going on the (Mormon) mission, but the game's not too big for him. He likes to compete, and he's very calm
omiolo 1 year ago
@omiolo
I think I'll call it... "You don't know what you're talking about."
And I love how you're helping people see how crazy your church is by posting all your crazy non-sequitur (look it up) spam. You see, your spam messages don't help anyone like your church, because they are fragments that don't make sense. They make people wonder why your church would need to stuff the comments box with pro-mormon dribble... what are you trying to hide?
So, thanks for helping the "anti's"!
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief Why don't we let YOUTUBE decide if it is SPAM? or are you TOO determined to be the judge, jury and executioner ?
/TYPICAL ANTImormon!
omiolo 1 year ago
Periodically, Mormon Times has printed lists of these not-so-common things to look for in and around Temple Square. Here is a compilation of those lists
omiolo 1 year ago
Comparing the blow-back the Mormons received from Prop 8 (where they took away civil rights from gays), to the intimidation blacks experienced during the civil rights movement is ludicrous and shameful. Dallin Oaks, in his ivory tower, clearly does not have any grasp on reality.
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
If we didn't know better, we might have trouble picturing the ancient patriarchs as cheery and friendly men. But the restored gospel clears this up. God doesn't call grumps to be his chief ambassadors. That would be bad press
omiolo 1 year ago
@omiolo
If you want to be treated as an adult, you need to act like one and be able to "talk" like one too.
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief I enjoy your comments, and then particularly enjoy how you WHINE about insults, while PRETENDING your comments are free of them.
I think we call it "head in the sand". Now continue with your idiom dialogue.
omiolo 1 year ago
Cure racing: a Musing Mother beautifully recounts her experience at last weekend's "Susan G. Komen Salt Lake City 2010" event, in both photos and prose: "One more Mother's Day spent with my mom, the bravest woman I know. A woman who didn't understand the doctor who said words like 'terminal,' 'incurable,' 'metastasize.' All she heard was 'miracle.'
omiolo 1 year ago
None will deny that many vagaries and problems exist in the text of Exodus 19—33, which describes the experience of the Israelites at Sinai. Scholars cannot agree upon how many authors are involved,5 nor can they come to a consensus concerning the date of the composition of the material.6 But the current text gives convincing evidence that Mount Sinai was indeed the first sanctuary of Israel. With this in mind, we will proceed with Lundquist's first motif.
omiolo 1 year ago
@omiolo
And this is another way it's obvious you're a kid. When a kid doesn't know how to respond, he resorts to calling names.
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief I just thought the IMMATURE try to puff themselves up to make them seem intellectual in their own eyes, while the actual EDUCATED people call them out on their "word mincing", bait and switches", and stupidity.
omiolo 1 year ago
To this Lundquist added, "the temple of Solomon would seem ultimately to be little more than the architectural realization and the ritual enlargement of the Sinai experience."4
omiolo 1 year ago
Of course, Mount Sinai was not a temple built of marble or cedar, for it is not necessary for a sanctuary to be an edifice or structure.2 Rather, Sinai was a sacred place built by Yahweh himself (Exodus 15:17) and, as such, was the precursor and prototype of later Israelite sanctuaries, the model from which later temples were copied. As Freedman has stated, Sinai was "the sanctuary which served as a model for all the replicas, especially the tabernacle and the temple in Jerusalem.
omiolo 1 year ago
@omiolo
whatever. you can play insult games and stay ignorant, or you can look up the idiom "bait and switch" and see what it really means.
you know, you give yourself away as a kid because of this kind of immaturity. you're about 12, right? certainly no more than 14.
and that's no insult, just an observation. after all, who else but a kid would think that spamming this religious crap everywhere would actually help his church?
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief I always laugh when I see your username, to be more correct you should name yourself; WhiningNamecallingmakingthingsup
omiolo 1 year ago
Such motifs as the cosmic mountain, the waters of life, the sacred repast, sacrificial ordinances, religious laws, divine revelation, and other features associated with Sinai will be examined. Indeed, in many ways, events at Mount Sinai were related to the temple worship later found at the tabernacle and the temple of Jerusalem.
omiolo 1 year ago
John Lundquist, in his paper "What Is a Temple? A Preliminary Typology," listed several types and motifs that are common among many ancient Near Eastern temples.1 This paper demonstrates that Mount Sinai also served as a sanctuary—the first Israelite sanctuary—and that many of the motifs listed by Lundquist in his article are also found at Sinai.
omiolo 1 year ago
@omiolo
Look it up if you don't believe me. It's you who gets them wrong.
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief "if you don't believe me"
yeah, I trust knowledge and science and my faith over YOUR need for me to have belief in you......
omiolo 1 year ago
Central to Israelite religion was its temple worship. Large sections of the Old Testament describe temple service, detailing the various sacrifices, the laws relating to purity, the rites and ceremonies of the priests, and their vestments. Many passages specify the precise dimensions of both the tabernacle and temple of Jerusalem.
omiolo 1 year ago
John A. Tvedtnes, "The Mistakes of Men: Can the Scriptures be
Error-Free?"
omiolo 1 year ago
@omiolo
You really need to learn what idioms mean before you use them... because you always get them wrong. That's not what a bait and switch is. Why don't you go and look it up so you don't look like a fool?
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief so it is me that gets them wrong, or is it you that has his head in the sand?
omiolo 1 year ago
Explore the little-known details behind these inspiring tales to
gain a greater understanding of the powerful influence that these
holy women have had on the history of mankind.
omiolo 1 year ago
As with any scripture, the contending views of the Book of Mormon
can seem irreconcilable. For believers, it is an actual historical
document, transmitted from ancient America. For nonbelievers, it is
the work of a nineteenth-century farmer from upstate New York. Hardy
transcends this intractable conflict by offering a literary
approach, one appropriate to both history and fiction.
omiolo 1 year ago
@omiolo
If you were really educated, you would have understood that it wasn't double-speak when I said Dallin Oaks is a false prophet.
If you were really educated, you'd be able to offer some sort of explanation or defense of your crazy religion. But you can't.
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief nice BAIT and SWITCH!
omiolo 1 year ago
Whether Joseph Smith is regarded as author or
translator, it's noteworthy that he never speaks in his own voice;
rather, he mediates nearly everything through the narrators Nephi,
Mormon, and Moroni. Hardy shows how each has a distinctive voice,
and all are woven into an integral whole.
omiolo 1 year ago
1831 Feb. taught by Missionaries, North American setting *** “An early account mentioned that the missionaries asked the ‘brethren of the reformation…to receive their mission and book as from heaven, which they said chiefly concerned the western Indians, as being an account of their origin, and a prophecy of their final conversion to [C]hristianity, and made them a white and delightsome people, and be reinstated in the possessing of their lands of which they have been despoiled by the whites’
omiolo 1 year ago
@omiolo
It's too bad you weren't smart enough to understand what I wrote. I'll try to explain in a way that your puny brain might understand.
Since prophets don't exist, then someone who claims to be a prophet is making a FALSE claim, therefore they are a FALSE prophet-- because prophets DON'T exist.
Was that easy enough for your simple intellect to comprehend?
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief I know, you the UNeducated are smart, and me the EDUCATED is NOT smart.. BLAH BLAH BLAH
omiolo 1 year ago
1830 Nov., taught by Missionaries, Hemispheric setting*** The Lehites “landed on the coast of Chili [sic] 600” B.C.,and from them descended all the Indians of America.” 5
omiolo 1 year ago
Author Daniel K. Judd writes: "The issues I have selected for
inclusion in this book are representative of the difficult questions
I have grappled with over the last several years in my work as a
professor, a therapist, a bishop, a stake president, and a father."
omiolo 1 year ago
@omiolo
There are NO prophets, period. They don't exist. Therefore, anyone who claims to be a prophet is making a false claim.
Try wrapping your brain around that one, kiddo... you got an answer? Or are you going to slink away as usual?
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief "There are NO prophets, period."
you just called someone a FALSE prophet. Nice double-talk!
omiolo 1 year ago
Dallin Oaks... a false prophet for a false religion!
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief In order to have false prophets, you must have true prophets. Please let me know how they are then?? Or is this your TYPICAL ANTImormon EMPTY rhetoric?
omiolo 1 year ago
The Church has also collected 10 tractor-trailer loads of emergency provisions that will be shipped via sea to Pakistan with the assistance of an established partner, Islamic Relief USA.
omiolo 1 year ago
The Church and its partners have stepped forward to help. Under the direction of the Presiding Bishopric, the Church is providing relief aid to assist the millions in need. On Aug. 25, the Church announced it was distributing supplies purchased in Pakistan with the cooperation of the humanitarian relief agencies International Relief and Development, International Medical Corps and Saba Aslam Welfare and Trust.
omiolo 1 year ago
Lol religious freedom. That means freedom for all FROM religion, as well as freedom to practise whatever religion you want.
JonnyPxN 1 year ago
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@JonnyPxN "That means freedom for all FROM religion"
that part fits COMMUNISM to a Tee!
omiolo 1 year ago
That meeting in the Church Administration Building in Salt Lake City on Tuesday, 24 August, followed meetings in February and May in Beijing, attended by Church apostle Elder Dallin H. Oaks and Elder Donald L. Hallstrom, who are responsible for overseeing the Church in Asia, on assignment from the First Presidency. These meetings were initiated by the Chinese representative.
omiolo 1 year ago
But the most common reasons, they said, were to be around people who have high moral standards and to be around other LDS Church members.
omiolo 1 year ago
@omiolo
Wrong again, omiolo. Typical. What do you know of Hitchens life, other that he preaches against mythologies like yours?
You failed again.
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
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@ScienceReasonBelief "What do you know of Hitchens life"
enough to know what a DECEITFUL and HORRIBLE life he has lead!
omiolo 1 year ago
The lovable Mormon minstrels recorded a series of brilliantly vibrant, harmony-drenched psychedelic pop songs. Perhaps it's time for us to regard them as a
omiolo 1 year ago
KIEV, Ukraine — The first temple lesson learned by LDS Church members attending Sunday's cornerstone ceremony of the Kyiv Ukraine Temple was to share.
You see, the Kyiv temple — the first built by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Eastern Europe as well as in the former Soviet Union — is not Ukraine's anymore.
omiolo 1 year ago
@omiolo
More baloney!
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
President Monson’s history in this part of the world began in 1968, five years after he was called to the Quorum of the Twelve, when he was assigned to oversee the work in countries in Eastern Europe behind the figurative Iron Curtain and the literal Berlin Wall.
omiolo 1 year ago
Iryna Nekrasova, who supervised the music for events pertaining to the dedication of the Kyiv Ukraine Temple, helps a youngster apply mortar to the temple's cornerstone.
omiolo 1 year ago
President Thomas S. Monson selected several youth from the audience to assist with the cornerstone ceremony prior to dedicating the Kyiv Ukraine Temple.
omiolo 1 year ago
Scary word for religious right wingers: S E C U L A R
stedav 1 year ago
@stedav scary word for those AGAINST religion. M O R A L I T Y
omiolo 1 year ago
@omiolo You Crazies honestly think that you can only get MORALITY From GOD???? Since when have the religious right had sole claim to a concept with its origins OUTSIDE religion??? Wow you really don't have any arguments do you?
stedav 1 year ago
@stedav "only get MORALITY From GOD?"
you sure can NOT get it from Christopher Hitchins!
omiolo 1 year ago
@omiolo
Actually, you can! Mr. Hitchens, however combative he may be (and a pain the the arse to you silly theists), does believe in humanistic values, from whence he gets his sense of morality.
ScienceReasonBelief 1 year ago
@ScienceReasonBelief "does believe in humanistic values"
what he says and what he practices are TWO different things. Hey, your types have a LOT in common with him!
omiolo 1 year ago
You Mix Religion and Politics. I am not of your Faith and you have no authority to preach to me. Your Hatred is unchristian. Do not take away my Free will It was given to me by God. Do not mislead the Children of God. Keep your Hate with in the walls of your Church. And out of My Freedom of Religion. And out of the laws of this Country.
k6tpl 1 year ago
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Homosexuals pervert God's creation. All civilizations since time began recognize homoseuality as PERVERSION. Perversion is perversion. Beastiality is perverted Sex agreed. Homosexuals same thing.
SECRETbkcvenant 1 year ago
Marriage is about SEX! Gay and Lesbian is SEX! Without sex and you are not homosexual, no sex no marriage. Sex consumates the marriage no sex is grounds for disanullment of marriage legally. Homosexuals pervert God's creation. All civilizations since time began recognize homoseuality as PERVERSION. Perversion is perversion. Beastiality is perverted Sex agreed. Homosexuals same thing.
SECRETbkcvenant 1 year ago
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@SECRETbkcvenant -"Marriage is about SEX!" - Is that what you believe ? What a pitiful , narrow minded excuse for a human being you are ! What a miserable lonely life you must lead ..... It's no wonder you are afraid of living in the real world.
curiousgeorge1940 1 year ago
Yeah the Mormons once said this about blacks too. They have a history of scapegoating whatever convenient minority is available to them.
lilliansmart 1 year ago