Is Christianity a Religion of Peace? ( Abdullah's Opening Statement - 2 of 4 )

[OtherSideOfIran]

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[watcher12343]

Muslims are a group of murderers, liars, and schemers. They are incompatible with American life, and must be removed from this country.

[blaqsoldier]

@watcher12343 Murderers, you must be joking. How do you think your beloved country was founded on? Hypocrites are the worst kind of people and your time will come soon.

[posledniysamuray]

@watcher12343 If you are truthful in your comment, why don't you search the truth. Read The Quran and try to find any statement that says murder someone or any contradictions.But i can tell you a bunch of contradiction in your bible.Let me tell you something, I know most pastors are gays, but I don't say they were commended by bible to be like that.

[ammir1]

I dont think this its even a matter of debate that christianity is a religion of peace. How come a religion can call itself peacefull when thousands of years of his gods records shows killing , killing babies, more babie, more and more babies , and even donkeies.

Majority of the war in OT are offensive not defensive.

[followerofjesus1984]

@ammir1 this is just ur understanding, the old testament dals with Gods justice, when people were in sunful places, God wanted to irradicate it, as this is God calling

[MrGriegos]

Abdullah's classification of Christian "sects" is very strange, but I understand what he is trying to organize in establishing his point about peace.

However, this debate (and this goes for the Christians as well) derails itself by avoiding the issue of State and Religion. For example, the Menonites that Abdullah mentions have never held State power, and therefore the responsibility of government (taxes, armies etc.) never fell upon them. Very poor examples for debate.

[MrGriegos]

At the outset of Abdullah's statement, he used the word "orthodoxy" to Christianity.

He didn't express exactly if he meant Orthodox Christianity, or simply orthodox perspectives in general that can be applied to all branches of Christianity.

If I was talking about "orthodox" Islam, people may believe I was talking about Sunni Islam and not Shia. In debates, people should be careful how they use certain words and not make sweeping generalizations.

[noodles321321]

Huh. As an atheist who's just beginning to explore the realm of Christian-Muslim dialoges, I must say that Muslims tend to beat Christians pretty hard. It's a sad day for Christian apologetics when they're represented by morons like David Wood who poison the well by accusing his opponent of quote mining before he's even made his case. Abdullah's made a brilliant response-now Wood's going to have to defend the position that freakin' Aqinas was quote mining as well. He should just give up.

[MrGrandDragon]

Trust me

David has been spouting the same old crap for DECADES and he NEVER EVER sights Muslims responses in his arguments...

He NEVER learns

[Xzibillion]

The only reason atheism is on rise is because of christian morons like David and the fact that many Christians cant take the fact that Islam is the truth so the turn to the next rational thinking mechanism called science which Islam by the way has not contradiction with. in fact if there is any religion that has assimilated science with it is Islam. The proof is when islam ruled science prospered in islamic land but when Christianity ruled it was called the dark ages for christian land.

[noodles321321]

Hmm...as far as I can tell, the recent rise of atheism, at least in America, is on the backs of the 'new atheists', the likes of Christopher Hitchens and Richard Dawkins. Plus, a great deal of scientists are turning away from Christianity because of attacks on various aspects of scientific research by Christian fundamentalists. But I'd say it's difficult to point out any definite reason for the rise of atheism. I, for instance, was never a Christian, and remain to be convinced by any religion.

[at8933]

Hello.

I just want to try to encourage you to learn more about islam and to get to know the truth about islam. I think you will be pleasantly surprised. I know many atheists/agnostics that have embraced islam. You seem to have a good and HONEST heart and can differentiate between right and wrong. Watch videos of bilal philips and you will definitely learn the truth. your soul doesn't finish when your heart stops beating.

[noodles321321]

Will do! I don't know much about Islam yet. is there any material you would recommend specifically?

[at8933]

First off You said you were an atheist and I suggest starting with that. Dr. shabir ally is an excellent source of knowlege because he is very well educated from the university of toronto. He has a video called, "Does God Really Exist? An Answer to Atheism in A Godless Society ( 1 of 2 )" I think it should be worth watching because he really breaks it down for you. Then you could make your own decision. I hope you open your heart and mind to what he is saying which I know you will.

[noodles321321]

Thanks for the suggestion.

[at8933]

I was just on your homepage and I see your wallpaper and I must say that it is not very pleasant. Even though you might not believe and I certainly dont beleive in christianity or judaism but I would never disrespect their religious symbols. The prophet muhamed said if you have nothing good to say then its better to be silent. Im not trying to tell you what to do but I am telling you to reanalyze what you choose for others to see.

[noodles321321]

As an atheist, I reject all religions. I don't see how it's disrespectful to use the symbol of the three great monotheistic religions crossed out to symbolise it. The whole image used to be visible before they changed the channel formats on youtube. If you could see the whole thing, you would see that it's a parody of ATHEISM that I thought was quite funny. It's not mocking any of the three faiths, it's mocking US.

[muslim610]

Good video.

[MrGrandDragon]

We all know Christianity steamed from confusion and confrontation. Its hard to answer this question since as Muslim we believe all Prophet's are the bringers of peace manifested as truth...

We judge on the basis of what we know in the Bible and if that is the only criteria then it is not peaceful

[alkh3myst]

Of course not. Anyone who has studied history knows this.