@MsMaya75 You become a "high myope" because 1) You were over-prescribed when you were at -3/4 and 20/40. 2) Because no OD will TELL YOU OF THE ADVERSE EFFECT A MINUS HAS ON THE EYE. and 3) Now no OD will admit that the minus destroyed your vision. It is possible to reverse -3/4 diopter and 20/50 -- with intense motivation. Remember the remarks of Dr. Prentice. People reject plus-prevention -- when it is possible. We should understand that issue with total clarity -- in my opinion.
Prentice 4 > Similar results have been attained in 34 like cases ...but the process is very tedious for the patients, and unless their understanding is clear on the subject, it is almost impossible to induce them to undergo the trial. [ Otis> This is truly the issue. It MUST be the person's wisdom, to accept the "tedious" use of a plus, and to do it with no let up, that would make prevention (at 20/50, -3/4 diopter) possible. THAT is the real and only issue
Prentice 3 > After reading in these glasses for several days, the patient was able to read print twelve inches from the eyes. In six months I changed the glasses for reading and writing to a +4 D without seeing the patient. After using the +4 D glasses for several months he again came under my care for an examination, when the left eye gave twenty-twentieths vision
Prentice 2> Age forty-three; myopia; had been wearing over the right eye -1.25 D, left eye -1 D, with little or no change for the space of two years; eyes in use more or less at the near point. I recommended the removal of the concave glasses for distant vision and prescribed +3.50 D for reading, writing and other office work. (-1.25 D is about 20/50 to 20/60 on a Snellen)
Prentice 1> Medical people -- who have truly recognized the natural eye's behavior, and that, at least at the threshold -- IT IS PREVENTABLE. Here is the commentary by a profoundly insightful ophthalmologist. But, as Dr. Prentice states, plus prevention (at -1 diopter is tedious). But to say that "prevention will never happen" is a tragic statement -- because it prevents a preventive scientific study our effort -- that could be effective
So there are no illusions about plus-prevention, I will post remarks by a Dr. Prentice. He showed that, if a person would start the wearing a plus (with a prescription of -1 diopter, or about 20/50), he could slowly get out of it. So what is the problem? It is that most people can not make the commitment to wearing the plus for all close work (books and computer). At 20/40, you can avoid the minus. But the long-term resolve is very difficult for most people. Pilots must understand.
About Jansen and long-term fortitude. I correspond with Jansen by email. It takes long-term determination to EACH DAY, put on that plus-2 lens, and read at the "just blur" point. Will Jansen have the courage to continue for the next six months to a year? I will not know. He can quit, but that ends the possibility of prevention. Most of us have a hard time making that type of commitment. But my vision is worth it -- so "be prepared" for commitment. It is up to you.
I hope you understand my position vis-a-vis Judy and ODs. ODs attack me endlessly, to protect their "practice". Prevention is indeed difficult, but you have no choice but to do it yourself -- given this general attitude. This is why I show basic measurements, Snellen and trial lens. This is not "optometry" but visual self-defense. It also takes about one year of steady wearing of the plus to go from 20/40 to 20/20. (-3/4 diopters). It costs personal RESOVE, not money.
Remarks about Jansen (-4 and -2, 20/100). The real requirement on all of us is to pass the DMV 20/40 line. It is clear that prevention can not be prescribed. It is also clear, that long-term use of a +2 depends totally on Jansen's continued motivation. This is the reason why medicine ignores prevention and claims it will NEVER BE POSSIBLE. Perhaps they have a point. The data from the bifocal and primate studies show that it MUST BE the person himself that makes "just prevention" possible.
School Student Jansen> Yes, I wear +2.00 at around 16-17 while reading, as well as for P.C work. Sometimes I won't wear it during band rehearsal which is about 50 minutes, but I look into the distance every 10 minutes or so. I also don't wear it while eating, but I'm not sure if that really counts as close work. (Jansen is at 20/40. If he continues it will take about nine months to exceed the DMV requirements to 20/25.) It takes that kind of motivation.
Is ANYONE successful with plus-prevention (recovery from 20/40)? Yes, but they always bring intense motivation "to the table" in the first place. Here is one example:
schwerdfeger. name/articles/pluslens. shtml
This is virtually always accomplished with NO OD involvement. The person seems to just "get the idea", and does it. I don't think you can "tell" a person to do this - he must intuitively figure it out for himself. Do not ask an OD for help with this.
Sad Story 5 > This man's name is Chris. He is sorry now, that he did not know about plus-prevention now he understands the consequence of NOT teaching himself to wear the plus when he was at 20/40 and -3/4 diopters. I wonder how he would have reacted at age 18, if ANYONE had attempted to convince him to, 1) Check his Snellen (assume 20/40), and 2) Wear the plus, and 3) Continue to use the plus through four years of college. What would you do? How would you react? This is not "medical".
Sad Story 4 > Prevention means long-term systematic wearing of a +2 to +2.5 for all systematic close work. I know this will be "strange", and you will ask "why" -- as I would. But this man's history is a strong indication of what happens to our eyes, if we can't get ourselves motivated to wear the plus for the long-term. If you value your vision enough, and your Pilot Qualification enough perhaps you can choose the "tough" course of action.
Hi Troy> Once you have a Snellen up and reading it, see if you pass the 20/40 line. You can find a great deal of information by going to Google and typing, "MyopiaFree", reading the commentary. Let us know if you can complete this step. Remember 20/40 will pass the DMV test in most states. You can get low-cost (temporary) minus lenses for about $10 if you need them. Be prepared, it takes a long time to get out of it from 20/40.
so what do i do if i use -2.0 prescription glasses? i think that my vision is around 20/40 right now and i DEFINITELY am preparing to be an air force pilot but my vision is obviously a hindrance. i dont know if corrective eye surgery is an option so im considering all possibilities. any advice??? what plus lenses should i buy? +2.0?
@troydaboy0620 I would message otissumnerbrown here on youtube if I were you. He knows exactly where you should start. He posts tons of comments below this video. Just click on his name to go to his channel and then send him a message. He's the most knowledgeable individual on this subject and has helped numerous pilots pass their eye exams. I wish you the best of luck!!!
@troydaboy0620 Let me answer this way: but my vision is obviously a hindrance. (You neeed 20/20 on Snellen). i dont know if corrective eye surgery is an option so im considering all possibilities. any advice??? They will not do it at age 18. They know you will go down by -1.5 diopters. So they will wait until you are at -3.5 diopters. Don't have surgery done now.
I do have a strong "independence" of mind an judgment. I wish I had had the educated judgment necessary to begin the wise use of a plus -- before my vision went below 20/50. The ODs are arrogant (with few exceptions). They will not, or can not help you. That is why I post here. Doing (prevention) yourself. There is no other way. You will find more information by Google, and typing, "MyopiaFree". I technical person, a motivated person could succeed.
I gave up on ODs. I do agree that prevention takes great personal resolve, and to be effective must start before your Snellen goes much below 20/40. I believe in making all necessary measurements myself -- so that I "know what I am doing". To help you, I have posted a series of videos on 1) Getting a Snellen, 2) Reading it 3) Obtaining two minus lenses 4) Reading through a +2 lens 5) What a plus and minus do. Just type, "OtisSumnerBrown" on Youtube, and watch them.
Subject: Successful results from -4.5 and -2.25 Diopters. (about 20/100 on a
Snellen)
I would like to post this success by Jansen, who systematically worked with a
"plus" and other methods. The DMV requires 20/40 visual acuity. Jansen achieved
this result after following Todd's advice and success on 1/8/12, This took about 2 years. It will now take about six to nine months to get to 20/20. (Discussion on "gettingstronger. org)
If you decide to use the plus, I hope you can read the 20/40 line. I would read Dr. Prentice's comment about wearing the plus. The process is "tedious", in that you must avoid the minus lens (consistent with safety), and wear a +2 to +2.5 for all computer and reading. No exceptions. Can you do that -- if your professional career is involved. I don't know you, but I would do it for nine months -- and expect to get to 20/25 and 20/20 -- on my own Snellen. Good Luck!
A medical person (in his office) sees you ONLY as an ignorant person, who has no interest in true-prevention under YOUR control. Thus, he feels no obligation to even discuss the possibility of plus-prevention under YOUR control. This is a totally BLIND "mind set" that science and facts can not penetrate. I think he "fears" that he will be "accused" of false practice, if he even DISCUSSES the use of the plus, when the child it at 20/40.
PREVENTION DEFINITION> 1) To avoid a negative STATE. 2) On the threshold (20/40, and -3/4 diopeters) to slowly see to it that your refractive STATE changes in a positive direction. 3) To be persistent at 20/40.. 4) Recognize this fact, an understand that "doing prevention yourself" -- is the ONLY possiblity. 5) Recognize that "arguements"with ODs who are againts this are just wasting your time -- at a HUGE EXPENSE. (It is all up to you -- at low to no cost.)
I was thinking of using pinhole glasses but i heard its merely just sunglasses.I have -3.75 on one eye and -3.50 on the other but ive forced myself to take up both as -3.50 for about a year now so should i start with +1.5 lenses??? I want to improve my eyesight badly but its hard to use other methods of not using specs at all.
@sustantivo1espritu Tragically, you should have been offered the use of the plus when you wear at 20/40. (Almost all of us were at that point at age five). You must pass the 20/40 line, and your -3 does that for you. If you wish to reduce the effect of near work, you can remove you glasses for all close work, or you can get your prescription reduced by 2 diopters to say, -1.5 diopters for all close work. Near will be clear for you through that -1.5 diopters.
What other "methods" exist? If under "medical control" then you will pay a lot o65f money. 1 The only "method" an OD will talk about is "Ortho-K". This required long-term that you SLEEP in a contact lens. It is about $1,500 to start, about about $700 per year. 2) Lasik. Produces good vision from 20/200, about -3 diopters. About $4,000, with risks, and is not permanent. 3) Cataract surgery. That works, but costs $5,000. 4) Under your control, slow, requires strong resolve. Cost? $40.
Dr. C. Prentice> Similar results have been attained in 34 like cases ...but the process is very tedious for the patients, and unless their understanding is clear on the subject, it is almost
impossible to induce them to undergo the trial, The problem with most people is this, they WANT clear vision, but when the plus must be used for the "long-term" they "fade away". This is why pilot is needed, because long-term motivation is required. (The true difficulty -- it takes MONTHS)
I consider "SuperTop"s statement to be of great value. I assume that SOME pilots will listen to this. They will have the courage to actually read a Snellen eye-chart. Some, will pass the 20/30, 20/40 or 20/50 line. I provide a "check lens" to see if they can get 20/20 through a -3/4 lens. IF THEY CAN, there eyes are good. Clearing from that point is indeed possible, but it does take about six to nine months. Doing it yourself means is costs nothing at all. But persistence is difficult.
Response to destructive OD> Yes, people have used the plus (at 20/40 to 20/50) and with wisdom about this self-serving destructive arrogance, have worn the plus, and SLOWLY cleared their Snellen (and status) to 20/20. This is proven in the science of the primate eye. The arrogant OD simply lies about this issue. Yes, I am an engineer, and know that if I want prevention done RIGHT, I have no choice, but to do it myself. ODs are a disaster.
Typical OD's destructive attitude> Of course not moron! There is no prevention method that has been found to work. Prevention works only in the fantasy world of Otis Brown where human eyes behave differently than all the research studies show they do -- they work like "fundamental natural" eyes, which has no bearing on reality but apparently strikes a deep chord within Otis. (I will respond to this in due course.)
I have a friend who had a -4 diopter lens that he had been wearing for a long time. After he "got the idea", he check with a Snellen. He was about 20/50. (I have no idea why he got such a terrible prescription -- and no explanation.) He MIGHT have been 20/300. The eye does not "change" by 3 diopters in a month. Since he was at 20/50, he realized he MIGHT get 20/40. He did, and passed the Maryland DMV eye test. But I can not predict results.
To help you in the use of a plus, I have prepared a video on how to read through a plus lens (if you Snellen is 20/40 or so. Just got to you-tube, and type, "OtisSumnerBrown", and find the video, "Plus_Use", and review it. I have seen gross errors in a prescription, (excessive), so you might have 20/40 vision and a -3 diopter lens. You must check this yourself -- in my opinion.
@mangoleafz Hi, The first thing I would do would be to down-load a Snellen and determine WHICH line you ca read. Until you do that, it is impossible to determine what might be possible.
@mangoleafz Please report the line (i.e., 20/40, 20/60, 20/100) on that identifies the line you can read. Reading means making out 1/2 the letters. Put a bright light on that Snellen.
@mangoleafz Some charts go "down" from 20/70. Others start at 20/200. It is impossible to tell anything when you say you read a "line" on the Snellen. There is no "uniform" or standard Snellen eye-chart.
@mangoleafz 1) I am pleased you read you Snellen. 2) I do not provide ANY medical advice. 3) The "advice" I give -- I would follow myself. 4) I hope "Supertop" is at 20/40 5) All ODs SHOULD PROVIDE PREVENTIVE ADVICE -- when you are at 20/40. But they never do. 6) If I confirmed 20/70, I would try to avoid the use of a minus -- except when absolutely necessary. 7) I can make no claims of any success. 8) Only later, could you wear a plus -- when you see about 20/50 -- in my opinion.
After I did all this research, I realized that if you consider yourself a "patient", and totally dependent of a medial person you probably can't make it. (Because it is "tedious".) But pilots should become "united". We all have common goals, and accept challenges like this one. For the person who "complains" about wear the plus (when he is 20/40) and can't be persistent, the no success is possible. But because you "do it yourself", it does not cost anything -- except "resolve".
Dr. C. Prentice> Similar results have been attained in 34 like cases ...but the process is very tedious for the patients, and unless their understanding is clear on the subject, it is almost
impossible to induce them to undergo the trial, The problem with most people is this, the WANT clear vision, but when the plus must be used for the "long-term" they "fade away". This is why pilot is needed, because long-term motivation is required. This is about YOU -- not me.
Age forty-three; myopia; had been wearing over the right eye -1.25 D, left eye -1 D, with little or no change. The eyes in use more or less at the near point. I recommended the removal of the concave glasses for distant vision and prescribed +3.50 D for reading, writing and other office work. (After 8 months, this person's vision was 20/20.) He also reports 34 similar results. Then he says the person IS RESPONSIBLE!!!
Dr Cook also states, "In addition, we prescribe a convex lens (plus glasses) for all prolonged reading a close work"!! He also talks about 16 to 48 "training sessions" at "cost" per session. I don't mind the money -- but is easier for me to get a Snellen and do this work for free. But the issue of sustained motivation if very difficult for most people.
OD Book for pilots -- by David L. Cook. "Vision -- what every pilot needs to know". He states that, "Although there are no hard and fast rules -- if acuity is 20/50 or better, there is a good chance to obtain 20/20 (by his methods) that include heavy use of a plus. I am in complete agreement with this statement. Pilots can be HIGHLY SELF-MOTIVATED. Prevention starts with your own checking of your Snellen. There are those who will complain that successful plus -- is "tedious".
Over-prescription -- or why a "prescription" is inaccurate. I you are "lucky" you are wearing an excessive minus. I have seen people with a -3 diopter prescription, PASS the FAA 3rd requirement. Do not rely on any "prescription" -- do it yourself with your Snellen. If 20/50 or so, it takes about three months to get better than this FAA requirement. It is not easy -- no one said it would be.
FAA Requirement: (The reason why self-check is necessary and wise.)
67.303 Eye. Eye standards for a thirdclass airman medical certificate are:
(a) Distant visual acuity of 20/40 or better in each eye separately, with or without corrective lenses. If corrective lenses (spectacles or contact lenses) are necessary for 20/40 vision, the person may be eligible only on the condition that corrective lenses are worn while exercising the privileges of an airman certificate. (More later)
If you are interested in protecting your distant vision, or are slightly "negative" -- then get a Snellen eye-chart, and see with line you read 1/2 the letters correctly. If you judge that a "plus" will "hurt you" -- stop reading this. If you are 20/40, and are willing to "work" with the plus, it takes about six months to a year to "go postive" and clear your Snellen. This work is not for children. The plus has been used on thousands of children (bifocal) with no adverse effects.
Pilot> I'm sorry I have not taken the time to write or call you until now. On December 4, I passed a FAA 1st Class Physical and, under much less than ideal conditions, read 20/15 on the eye chart! Thank you for all you have done to help me.
Otis> I sent him my book -- now FREE on the net. It is up to each person to check his Snellen himself. Like "weight loss", no one can tell you what to do -- certainly not me.
For those of you who "fear" the plus lens when you are at 20/40 (on your Snellen) PLEASE log-off this site. Here is a pilot (at 20/40) who was not in fear of wearing a plus.
Pilot> Hi! I went out and bought a pair of +1.75 diopter reading glasses, and two days later my vision improved from 20/70 - 20/80 to 20/50 at an exam today. The Doctor wanted to sell me $500.00 worth of (Band-aid) lenses. What a ripoff! (Continued 8 months later.)
What is the medical opinion (on prevention)? It is this -- it is absolutely IMPOSSIBLE TO PREVENT, by any method, and by any person. I would agree that it is very difficult, and must depend on the wisdom and motivation of the person himself. This separates the "medical issues" from the scientific issue of avoiding entry, or at the threshold getting out of it with a plus worn for moths. This is why Colgate and others were successful. They realized there was no choice but "doing it yourself"
Normal refractive status (difference) between the eyes. There is a typical difference of from zero to 3/4 diopters. If you read 20/25 with on eye, and 20/40 the difference would be about 3/4 diopters. I advocate that a person obtain some simple minus lenses from Zennioptical to check this as a matter of engineering an professional interest.
Why read a Snellen? Why weigh yourself? If the military requirement is that I must weigh less that 180 pounds, and I weigh 190 pounds -- I would be a damn fool to pretend that I "lost weight", but never checked myself. If you want to pass the 20/20 line, then you must be certain you read the 20/20 or better -- BEFORE YOU GO TO THE FAA FOR THEM TO CHECK? Have I missed some point here?
Why I insist that we read our own Snellen. The reason is TRUST. When some OD tells you that you are 1) 20/40, or 2) -1, -2, -3 diopters myopic, I have found that there are many gross errors. If you are told you are 20/30 to 20/25 -- that may be a casual remarks of an OD WHO HAS NO INTEREST (AND PROBABLY DOES NOT CARE) about you long-term visual welfare. This is 90 percent of the plus-prevention approach. It is taking total responsibility to "do measurements yourself".
I have a question, i just stated wearing plus 1.5 lenses and i was wondering when watching TV should I wear the glasses at the blurry point, if yes then i'll do that but i should also say that the blurry point makes me have to sit pretty close to the tv, is this still good for my eyes?
@cdudetheassassin Some suggestions. Anything beyond 40 inches -- I would not wear the plus. The reason is that the eye "accommodates" for distance. Beyond 40 inches (1 meter) the amount of accommodation required is less-than 1 diopter. It is only for reading, or "on the computer" that you should wear the plus. This is the distance you "push away" to find "just blur". Also -- what line do you read on your Snellen? Very important!!
Obtaining FREE eye chart. Down-load and print this chart:
.i-see.org/eyecharts.html
Select the Joel Schneider (PDF). That is the best chart. I use a felt-tip pen to write the line (20/20, 20/50 etc.) so I can read it at 20 feet. Let me know if you can't do this.
I believe in showing how to 1) Check you Snellen 2) Obtain "test" lenses, 3) Read Snellen through test lenses 4) Personally measure your refractive state with your own test lenses. These videos are now on YouTube. Just type, "OtisSumnerBrown", to review them.
@otissumnerbrown I'll do just that, thanks for the information, I am 14 right now and i'm studying everything i can about jets, meeting people, and even taking some flight lessons, this is basically the only thing standing in my way of achieving my goal of becoming an Air force Pilot, it would also be helpful if you could tell how to set it up, sorry if i seem like i'm asking to much, i can't thank you enough right now for letting me know what i can do. when i get my test done ill post it here!
@cdudetheassassin Since you are 14, and love flying -- then that is a great "motivator". The concept (of reducing) the near environment with a plus -- is not to difficult to understand. But what is difficult, is the long-term persistence required in the use of a plus for all close-work. That probably "prevents" people from this type of effort. It is very clear that no one can tell you what you should do. That is for you to work out. But get a Snellen and put it up -- permanently.
@otissumnerbrown I'll try this method out once i get my plus lenses in about 2 weeks. I will be sure to be very patient and use the glasses whenever i'm reading, watching tv, on the computer, ect... also i don't know if this is important but i seem to be more nearsighted in my right eye than my left. don't know if that says anything but i just thought i should let you know. Thanks again.
@cdudetheassassin It is very important that you set up a Snellen NOW. That is far more important that getting a plus lens. I can only ESTIMATE the strength of the plus you can use. You will find that with a +2 you should be able to read at 20 inches. Pushing work away, you will find that it will begin to "blur" at 25 inches. You can get these "plus" glasses in the drug store. This is the best way -- and does not cost anything. Do both -- 1) Get Snellen, 2) Drug-store plus.
@otissumnerbrown Ok, so i'll get everything set up tommrow, the snellen chart and the glasses. And also when i'm reading or something, should read when the wordss blur and read while the words are blurry? or should I read at the distance where i can see the letters clearly before it gets blurry. And i think i'll start off with +3 lenses to get faster results
@cdudetheassassin With all due respect -- you probably can not wear a +3 diopter plus lens. You must experiment with the plus in the drug store to find the plus that is most comfortable for you. Start with a +1.5. Reading should be clear to about 25 inches. The try a +2. My typical reading distance is about 22 inches. You want to "push away" with a plus, until you can not read the lettters. You want the letters (or computer) to be comfortable to read. Try it.
@otissumnerbrown Ok i just got the 1.5 30 min ago, no i'm going to get the Snellen chart. I also have one more question. I have an Xbox and when i'm looking at the TV should I be wearing the glasses at the blurry distance like i would do with the book? or should i not wear the glasses when it comes to TV. Thanks again
@cdudetheassassin Hi, If you are not going to print out your Snellen -- you will have no idea what you are doing!! No objective judgment of results will be possible. You are kidding yourself (in my opinion) if you will not do it. After all -- what is the point??
@otissumnerbrown Ok so I'll print out the snellen from your sight, I should have the results within 2 hours, I'll keep you updated! and how far away should I stand from the chart when testing?
@cdudetheassassin Hi, 20/20 means you stand 20 feet from the chart. The second "20" means the letters are 3/8 inch high. Remember -- this is about you and what YOU want to achieve. This is like "Pre-flight" of an airplane. If I don't check the plane (controls, gas, etc.) I would be a very poor (and dangerous pilot). Further, if I have a Snellen and home, and NEVER CHECK IT, (and have 20/40 vision) I am not "responsible" for flight safety. That is why I check.
@otissumnerbrown Hey, i just took the test and for my right eye i couldn't really make out what the letters were at the 30 ft and for my left eye, it would be the 25 ft line where my eyes couldn't tell the difference between some of the letters
@cdudetheassassin Good! That is a reality check. You would pass the State DMV test which requires that you read 20/40 with both eyes open, or with the "better eye". You would fail the FAA 1st class test, which requires 20/20 with both eyes. My estimate of the amount of "minus" it would take to get 20/20 would be this, -1/2 for the left eye, and about -1.25 for the right eye. You could use a +2 to +2.5 for all close work -- because that would have the best effect.
@cdudetheassassin The FAA 3rd class calls for 20/40 or better for both eyes. When we see with both eyes open, we see with the better eye. With both eyes you will probably be able to read the 20/25 line. Wise, persistent use of the plus for three or four months, could get you to (both eye) 20/20. More work could get both eyes to 20/20. You now have a difficult choice to make. Otis
@otissumnerbrown Thats great to know, I plan on being able to see the 20/20 line clearly with both eyes with one of them closed so that i know i qualify, I'm going to buy the 2.5 today and see how far it will take me in a week. And also how often should I test myself on the snellen?
@cdudetheassassin I am a professional. I pre-flight my aircraft, so I pre-flight my eyes. I would keep the Snellen up (in bright light) and just check every few days. The real goal (for now) would be to read the Snellen with both eyes open, at 20/20. That is a good goal that I think you could achieve in about two months. The eye changes -- but VERY SLOWLY -- so be prepared. When you get to 20/20 (both eyes) you can fly with no glasses -- but must continue wearing the plus.
@cdudetheassassin It will take about six months of heavy use of a +2.5 to get to 20/20 for both eyes. When you get there, you can quit wearing the plus, until your natural eyes again "adjust" to near, and you begin developing 20/25 again. But after you get to 20/20, you can protect yourself as necessary. You are close enough to 20/20 -- so I think you can make it.
@cdudetheassassin Here is how I set up my Snellen at 20 feet. Type, "OtisSumnerBrown" into "YouTube". You will see a number of videos. Click on the on titled, "Snell_View". Determine the line that you can read 1/2 to 3/4 the letters correctly. You don't have to read all the letters to pass the line.
@cdudetheassassin How to "Push Print" and experiment in selecting a plus in the drug store. Go to my videos, and select, "Plus Choice". Remember, I am not a medical person, and I don't give any medical advice. I only describe what I would do for the purpose of prevention. Further, I don't "argue" with ODs about this issue -- I just make certain I pass the required line on my own Snellen -- before I go for any test.
@cdudetheassassin (Remarks by my nephew -- who used the plus). Keith> I use these glasses nearly 100 percent of the time when I read text books and use them for about 70 percent of the total reading I do. I started using them as much as possible again because, at the end of last semester my sight was pretty bad (I didn't check them on a chart). I am lucky to have an uncle who showed me back in eighth grade that I could prevent my nearsightedness. (That is what is required.)
Remarks of a pilot (from my book, "How to Avoid...") " I'm sorry I have not taken the time to write or call you until now. On December 4, I passed a FAA 1st Class Physical and, under much less than ideal conditions, read 20/15 on the eye chart! Thank you for all you have done to help me. I have at least 15 pilots and friends now wearing reading glasses. I am one-quarter through the rough draft on my vision book, and I am slowly making progress." (This took six months.)
First, I thank "SuperTop" for making this review possible. But a complete discussion is difficult in this format. For a true interactive discussion please go to "GettingStronger . Org, and click on, "Discussion Forum". Then click on "Rehabilitation". The site is conducted by Todd Becker, who cleared off -3 diopters -- so you never know what can be achieved -- and I can make no predictions about any results.
I want to become an Airforce pilot as well and i just took an eye exam today and they told me that i have 20/30 - 20/40 vision, do i qualify or should i get some glasses on
@cdudetheassassin I would personally obtain your own Snellen chart and check this yourself. You can obtain a free chart by Googling "MyopiaFree" and then selecting "Prevention". Our natural eyes simply "go down" from long-term close work as required in high school and college. Read the remarks, and if you wish, give it a try!
@otissumnerbrown Hey, I just checked out the sight and I am a bit confused, can you please explain exactly how I can restore my vision back to 20/20? i'll be willing to try anything, just as long as i will get 20/20 sight when i turn 17. thanks for your help!
@cdudetheassassin I suggest that you get 1) An eye chart 2) Determine which line you can read 1/2 to 3/4 the letters. 3) Post your PERSONAL results here. 4) Don't rely on an OD to tell you WHAT YOUR READ. Do it yourself. No one can predict how long it will take. Some are successful - some see no results. If you asked me to guess, with VERY HEAVY USE OF A PLUS, from 20/30, I would suggest about six months.
This minus on your brother destroyed his vision. I you are in the range of 20/40 or so (about -3/4 diopter) it is possible to get out of it -- but it does take strong resolve. For free, I created some videos on how to do this yourself. Just type "MyopiaFree" in Google, to get the history of this difficult situation. Thanks for making this public. I get my test lenses from Zennioptical, because no one will help me with this process. Thanks!
@otissumnerbrown Otis, by the way, I a big fan of your articles you have online. I'm so glad I'm not the only one who believes in restoring eyesight rather than making money by prescribing negative lenses and making the eyes worse, till the point their legally blind.
@SuperTopReviews Thanks for your statement! I don't mind PAYING an MD for a medical review. But that review (when you are at 20/40) MUST include a discussion of YOU taking full control, and conducting prevention yourself. It DOES take time to become successful, and I clearly state this. Doing this yourself (at no cost to you) is the real message on my site. Getting from 20/40 to 20/20 will take (on the average) about eight months. Be prepared for this.
@cr0wnz730 I must assume you are at 20/40 (about -3/4 diopter). If that is the case (you check yourself), you can use a +1.25 for all close work. As your Snellen clears (by +1/2 diopter) you can then move to a +1.75 diopter. The amount of "plus" is determined by you by reading at the "just blur" point. You can get the plus (for this testing) at a drug store. I describe how to do this in my free book on the Interment.
@cr0wnz730 To be effective, the preventive plus must be understood and started before you start wearing a minus lens -- in my opinion. For the pilot who is at 20/25 to 20/30, and has a strong desire (and persistence) to wear the plus (about +2.0) diopters for all close work, the prevention (and clearing is possible). I think ALL PROFESSIONALS should inform of this issue -- when we are at 20/30. The truth? None of them will -- tragically. This is why "do it yourself" is necessary.
Hi, To make this easy, I have posted a "Refractive State" video. That will provide you with a Snellen, and how to check your own visual acuity. This process is recommended for pilots who have the motivation to persist with this effort. The rest will be up to you. The cost is almost nothing -- but the will power required is very great.
@Prican271984 yea, +3.00 is a good starting point. But if you can handle +5 then go with that. Just a warning though, you might get a headache if you start with +5. You can really feel your eyes being trained with the higher you go in numbers. It's like going in the gym and lifting weights.
Wow ... would this work on a me... I can only see through one eye and that's my right eye.. because in the left eye I have retinal detachment so im blind for good in the left ..but I can still see on the right eye. What kinda lenses should I wear... because I can't see from far. Please help me thanks.
@Prican271984 I don't see why it shouldn't work for you. Go to any Walgreens and just grab reading glasses from one of the aisles. They come in varying strengths, you can use any strength. While reading with them on, move back a little to just slightly blur the text, and your eyes will start to get stronger. It does take lots of time. I heard that it takes on average 6months to get 20/20 vision if you have 20/40 vision. But I know people that wear the glasses all day and see results faster :)
@Daniel75ification that's awesome. It's very important to keep a habit going until it becomes perfect. For faster results where stronger plus lenses if you like. I hope you have success!!! :)
Um, there are some questions I like to ask.In the easy term to understand is that are you saying that nearsightners should be wearing farsightness glasses??? Didnt mean to ask you this, but have your vision improved completely using this technique??? Must only use when reading or use at any time???
@Tera1996 I'm going to have my eyes checked in two weeks and will post a video on the results, so far I can see the 20/20 line with both the left and right eye for only a few seconds. before it blurs. I had -1,00 prescribed for both of my eyes and now with plus lenses I'm almost at 20/20 vision. I also found out that ;you should start with +3.00 lenses to correct nearsightedness. This will achieve faster results.. I try to wear mine almost all the time, but I take them off when watching TV.
Good work man
you122789 3 days ago
What if it is high myopia of -4.5? Will this work?
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@MsMaya75 You become a "high myope" because 1) You were over-prescribed when you were at -3/4 and 20/40. 2) Because no OD will TELL YOU OF THE ADVERSE EFFECT A MINUS HAS ON THE EYE. and 3) Now no OD will admit that the minus destroyed your vision. It is possible to reverse -3/4 diopter and 20/50 -- with intense motivation. Remember the remarks of Dr. Prentice. People reject plus-prevention -- when it is possible. We should understand that issue with total clarity -- in my opinion.
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Prentice 4 > Similar results have been attained in 34 like cases ...but the process is very tedious for the patients, and unless their understanding is clear on the subject, it is almost impossible to induce them to undergo the trial. [ Otis> This is truly the issue. It MUST be the person's wisdom, to accept the "tedious" use of a plus, and to do it with no let up, that would make prevention (at 20/50, -3/4 diopter) possible. THAT is the real and only issue
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Prentice 3 > After reading in these glasses for several days, the patient was able to read print twelve inches from the eyes. In six months I changed the glasses for reading and writing to a +4 D without seeing the patient. After using the +4 D glasses for several months he again came under my care for an examination, when the left eye gave twenty-twentieths vision
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Prentice 2> Age forty-three; myopia; had been wearing over the right eye -1.25 D, left eye -1 D, with little or no change for the space of two years; eyes in use more or less at the near point. I recommended the removal of the concave glasses for distant vision and prescribed +3.50 D for reading, writing and other office work. (-1.25 D is about 20/50 to 20/60 on a Snellen)
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Prentice 1> Medical people -- who have truly recognized the natural eye's behavior, and that, at least at the threshold -- IT IS PREVENTABLE. Here is the commentary by a profoundly insightful ophthalmologist. But, as Dr. Prentice states, plus prevention (at -1 diopter is tedious). But to say that "prevention will never happen" is a tragic statement -- because it prevents a preventive scientific study our effort -- that could be effective
otissumnerbrown 1 month ago
So there are no illusions about plus-prevention, I will post remarks by a Dr. Prentice. He showed that, if a person would start the wearing a plus (with a prescription of -1 diopter, or about 20/50), he could slowly get out of it. So what is the problem? It is that most people can not make the commitment to wearing the plus for all close work (books and computer). At 20/40, you can avoid the minus. But the long-term resolve is very difficult for most people. Pilots must understand.
otissumnerbrown 1 month ago
About Jansen and long-term fortitude. I correspond with Jansen by email. It takes long-term determination to EACH DAY, put on that plus-2 lens, and read at the "just blur" point. Will Jansen have the courage to continue for the next six months to a year? I will not know. He can quit, but that ends the possibility of prevention. Most of us have a hard time making that type of commitment. But my vision is worth it -- so "be prepared" for commitment. It is up to you.
otissumnerbrown 1 month ago
I hope you understand my position vis-a-vis Judy and ODs. ODs attack me endlessly, to protect their "practice". Prevention is indeed difficult, but you have no choice but to do it yourself -- given this general attitude. This is why I show basic measurements, Snellen and trial lens. This is not "optometry" but visual self-defense. It also takes about one year of steady wearing of the plus to go from 20/40 to 20/20. (-3/4 diopters). It costs personal RESOVE, not money.
otissumnerbrown 1 month ago
Re: Judy, why don't ODs help their own children with Plus-prevention?
Judy> I'm an optometrist, I work in a group with five other optometrists, in a
city with several dozen optometrists,have a few dozen acquaintances who are
optometrists and none of us have our children use plus at near unless those
children are hyperopic.
(Hyperopic? The natural eye with a positive refractive state.)
This is why you check yourself -- and wear the plus yourself. It is not easy -- but don't ask and OD about it.
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Remarks about Jansen (-4 and -2, 20/100). The real requirement on all of us is to pass the DMV 20/40 line. It is clear that prevention can not be prescribed. It is also clear, that long-term use of a +2 depends totally on Jansen's continued motivation. This is the reason why medicine ignores prevention and claims it will NEVER BE POSSIBLE. Perhaps they have a point. The data from the bifocal and primate studies show that it MUST BE the person himself that makes "just prevention" possible.
otissumnerbrown 1 month ago
School Student Jansen> Yes, I wear +2.00 at around 16-17 while reading, as well as for P.C work. Sometimes I won't wear it during band rehearsal which is about 50 minutes, but I look into the distance every 10 minutes or so. I also don't wear it while eating, but I'm not sure if that really counts as close work. (Jansen is at 20/40. If he continues it will take about nine months to exceed the DMV requirements to 20/25.) It takes that kind of motivation.
otissumnerbrown 1 month ago
Is ANYONE successful with plus-prevention (recovery from 20/40)? Yes, but they always bring intense motivation "to the table" in the first place. Here is one example:
schwerdfeger. name/articles/pluslens. shtml
This is virtually always accomplished with NO OD involvement. The person seems to just "get the idea", and does it. I don't think you can "tell" a person to do this - he must intuitively figure it out for himself. Do not ask an OD for help with this.
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Sad Story 5 > This man's name is Chris. He is sorry now, that he did not know about plus-prevention now he understands the consequence of NOT teaching himself to wear the plus when he was at 20/40 and -3/4 diopters. I wonder how he would have reacted at age 18, if ANYONE had attempted to convince him to, 1) Check his Snellen (assume 20/40), and 2) Wear the plus, and 3) Continue to use the plus through four years of college. What would you do? How would you react? This is not "medical".
otissumnerbrown 1 month ago
Sad Story 4 > Prevention means long-term systematic wearing of a +2 to +2.5 for all systematic close work. I know this will be "strange", and you will ask "why" -- as I would. But this man's history is a strong indication of what happens to our eyes, if we can't get ourselves motivated to wear the plus for the long-term. If you value your vision enough, and your Pilot Qualification enough perhaps you can choose the "tough" course of action.
otissumnerbrown 1 month ago
Sad Story 3 > I'm now 42. I'm at -5.0D in both eyes. I believe my myopia was functionally
induced because no eye doctor that I've seen between then and now recommended
that I simply not wear my minus lenses and instead use the plus lenses for close
work. I would get hints from time to time, but it was like they were telling me
illicit information.
otissumnerbrown 1 month ago
Sad Story 2 > By the spring of my senior year, my vision had degraded to probably 20/100.
It's a longer story than you want to read, but I basically lost my PQ. This
changed the entire arc of my life and career. Instead of going to pilot
training, spending a career in the Air Force, and fulfilling a childhood dream,
I went into Satellite Engineering and US Space Command.
otissumnerbrown 1 month ago
Sad Story 1 > I entered the US Air Force Academy as Pilot-Qualified. I had 20/20 vision. In
my junior year, my vision began to deteriorate from all the studying (160+
academic hours in 4 years!). Mandatory physicals revealed my vision had gone
from 20/20 to 20/50. They prescribed minus lenses. I was being taught not to
question so I didn't question.
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Hi Troy> Once you have a Snellen up and reading it, see if you pass the 20/40 line. You can find a great deal of information by going to Google and typing, "MyopiaFree", reading the commentary. Let us know if you can complete this step. Remember 20/40 will pass the DMV test in most states. You can get low-cost (temporary) minus lenses for about $10 if you need them. Be prepared, it takes a long time to get out of it from 20/40.
otissumnerbrown 1 month ago
so what do i do if i use -2.0 prescription glasses? i think that my vision is around 20/40 right now and i DEFINITELY am preparing to be an air force pilot but my vision is obviously a hindrance. i dont know if corrective eye surgery is an option so im considering all possibilities. any advice??? what plus lenses should i buy? +2.0?
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@troydaboy0620 I would message otissumnerbrown here on youtube if I were you. He knows exactly where you should start. He posts tons of comments below this video. Just click on his name to go to his channel and then send him a message. He's the most knowledgeable individual on this subject and has helped numerous pilots pass their eye exams. I wish you the best of luck!!!
SuperTopReviews 1 month ago
@troydaboy0620 Let me answer this way: but my vision is obviously a hindrance. (You neeed 20/20 on Snellen). i dont know if corrective eye surgery is an option so im considering all possibilities. any advice??? They will not do it at age 18. They know you will go down by -1.5 diopters. So they will wait until you are at -3.5 diopters. Don't have surgery done now.
otissumnerbrown 1 month ago
I do have a strong "independence" of mind an judgment. I wish I had had the educated judgment necessary to begin the wise use of a plus -- before my vision went below 20/50. The ODs are arrogant (with few exceptions). They will not, or can not help you. That is why I post here. Doing (prevention) yourself. There is no other way. You will find more information by Google, and typing, "MyopiaFree". I technical person, a motivated person could succeed.
otissumnerbrown 1 month ago
I gave up on ODs. I do agree that prevention takes great personal resolve, and to be effective must start before your Snellen goes much below 20/40. I believe in making all necessary measurements myself -- so that I "know what I am doing". To help you, I have posted a series of videos on 1) Getting a Snellen, 2) Reading it 3) Obtaining two minus lenses 4) Reading through a +2 lens 5) What a plus and minus do. Just type, "OtisSumnerBrown" on Youtube, and watch them.
otissumnerbrown 1 month ago
Subject: Successful results from -4.5 and -2.25 Diopters. (about 20/100 on a
Snellen)
I would like to post this success by Jansen, who systematically worked with a
"plus" and other methods. The DMV requires 20/40 visual acuity. Jansen achieved
this result after following Todd's advice and success on 1/8/12, This took about 2 years. It will now take about six to nine months to get to 20/20. (Discussion on "gettingstronger. org)
This is not easy -- but possible.
otissumnerbrown 1 month ago
If you decide to use the plus, I hope you can read the 20/40 line. I would read Dr. Prentice's comment about wearing the plus. The process is "tedious", in that you must avoid the minus lens (consistent with safety), and wear a +2 to +2.5 for all computer and reading. No exceptions. Can you do that -- if your professional career is involved. I don't know you, but I would do it for nine months -- and expect to get to 20/25 and 20/20 -- on my own Snellen. Good Luck!
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A medical person (in his office) sees you ONLY as an ignorant person, who has no interest in true-prevention under YOUR control. Thus, he feels no obligation to even discuss the possibility of plus-prevention under YOUR control. This is a totally BLIND "mind set" that science and facts can not penetrate. I think he "fears" that he will be "accused" of false practice, if he even DISCUSSES the use of the plus, when the child it at 20/40.
otissumnerbrown 1 month ago
PREVENTION DEFINITION> 1) To avoid a negative STATE. 2) On the threshold (20/40, and -3/4 diopeters) to slowly see to it that your refractive STATE changes in a positive direction. 3) To be persistent at 20/40.. 4) Recognize this fact, an understand that "doing prevention yourself" -- is the ONLY possiblity. 5) Recognize that "arguements"with ODs who are againts this are just wasting your time -- at a HUGE EXPENSE. (It is all up to you -- at low to no cost.)
otissumnerbrown 1 month ago
I was thinking of using pinhole glasses but i heard its merely just sunglasses.I have -3.75 on one eye and -3.50 on the other but ive forced myself to take up both as -3.50 for about a year now so should i start with +1.5 lenses??? I want to improve my eyesight badly but its hard to use other methods of not using specs at all.
sustantivo1espritu 1 month ago
@sustantivo1espritu Tragically, you should have been offered the use of the plus when you wear at 20/40. (Almost all of us were at that point at age five). You must pass the 20/40 line, and your -3 does that for you. If you wish to reduce the effect of near work, you can remove you glasses for all close work, or you can get your prescription reduced by 2 diopters to say, -1.5 diopters for all close work. Near will be clear for you through that -1.5 diopters.
otissumnerbrown 1 month ago
What other "methods" exist? If under "medical control" then you will pay a lot o65f money. 1 The only "method" an OD will talk about is "Ortho-K". This required long-term that you SLEEP in a contact lens. It is about $1,500 to start, about about $700 per year. 2) Lasik. Produces good vision from 20/200, about -3 diopters. About $4,000, with risks, and is not permanent. 3) Cataract surgery. That works, but costs $5,000. 4) Under your control, slow, requires strong resolve. Cost? $40.
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Dr. C. Prentice> Similar results have been attained in 34 like cases ...but the process is very tedious for the patients, and unless their understanding is clear on the subject, it is almost
impossible to induce them to undergo the trial, The problem with most people is this, they WANT clear vision, but when the plus must be used for the "long-term" they "fade away". This is why pilot is needed, because long-term motivation is required. (The true difficulty -- it takes MONTHS)
otissumnerbrown 1 month ago
I consider "SuperTop"s statement to be of great value. I assume that SOME pilots will listen to this. They will have the courage to actually read a Snellen eye-chart. Some, will pass the 20/30, 20/40 or 20/50 line. I provide a "check lens" to see if they can get 20/20 through a -3/4 lens. IF THEY CAN, there eyes are good. Clearing from that point is indeed possible, but it does take about six to nine months. Doing it yourself means is costs nothing at all. But persistence is difficult.
otissumnerbrown 1 month ago
Response to destructive OD> Yes, people have used the plus (at 20/40 to 20/50) and with wisdom about this self-serving destructive arrogance, have worn the plus, and SLOWLY cleared their Snellen (and status) to 20/20. This is proven in the science of the primate eye. The arrogant OD simply lies about this issue. Yes, I am an engineer, and know that if I want prevention done RIGHT, I have no choice, but to do it myself. ODs are a disaster.
otissumnerbrown 1 month ago
Typical OD's destructive attitude> Of course not moron! There is no prevention method that has been found to work. Prevention works only in the fantasy world of Otis Brown where human eyes behave differently than all the research studies show they do -- they work like "fundamental natural" eyes, which has no bearing on reality but apparently strikes a deep chord within Otis. (I will respond to this in due course.)
otissumnerbrown 1 month ago
I have a friend who had a -4 diopter lens that he had been wearing for a long time. After he "got the idea", he check with a Snellen. He was about 20/50. (I have no idea why he got such a terrible prescription -- and no explanation.) He MIGHT have been 20/300. The eye does not "change" by 3 diopters in a month. Since he was at 20/50, he realized he MIGHT get 20/40. He did, and passed the Maryland DMV eye test. But I can not predict results.
otissumnerbrown 1 month ago
To help you in the use of a plus, I have prepared a video on how to read through a plus lens (if you Snellen is 20/40 or so. Just got to you-tube, and type, "OtisSumnerBrown", and find the video, "Plus_Use", and review it. I have seen gross errors in a prescription, (excessive), so you might have 20/40 vision and a -3 diopter lens. You must check this yourself -- in my opinion.
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Sry.. I have a power of -3.5 in the left eye and -2.75 in the right eye.. What power of plus lenses should i wear?? Help me bro...
mangoleafz 2 months ago
@mangoleafz Hi, The first thing I would do would be to down-load a Snellen and determine WHICH line you ca read. Until you do that, it is impossible to determine what might be possible.
otissumnerbrown 2 months ago
@otissumnerbrown hmm.. the first and second line are readable but blurry.. after dat.. i am gone
mangoleafz 1 month ago
@mangoleafz Please report the line (i.e., 20/40, 20/60, 20/100) on that identifies the line you can read. Reading means making out 1/2 the letters. Put a bright light on that Snellen.
otissumnerbrown 1 month ago
@mangoleafz Some charts go "down" from 20/70. Others start at 20/200. It is impossible to tell anything when you say you read a "line" on the Snellen. There is no "uniform" or standard Snellen eye-chart.
otissumnerbrown 1 month ago
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i was able to read till 20/70.. though it was very blurry.. Please help me sir..
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@mangoleafz 1) I am pleased you read you Snellen. 2) I do not provide ANY medical advice. 3) The "advice" I give -- I would follow myself. 4) I hope "Supertop" is at 20/40 5) All ODs SHOULD PROVIDE PREVENTIVE ADVICE -- when you are at 20/40. But they never do. 6) If I confirmed 20/70, I would try to avoid the use of a minus -- except when absolutely necessary. 7) I can make no claims of any success. 8) Only later, could you wear a plus -- when you see about 20/50 -- in my opinion.
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Hey brother .. I am having a eye power of -3.75 left and -3.25 right.. What power of plus lenses should i wear?
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After I did all this research, I realized that if you consider yourself a "patient", and totally dependent of a medial person you probably can't make it. (Because it is "tedious".) But pilots should become "united". We all have common goals, and accept challenges like this one. For the person who "complains" about wear the plus (when he is 20/40) and can't be persistent, the no success is possible. But because you "do it yourself", it does not cost anything -- except "resolve".
otissumnerbrown 2 months ago
Dr. C. Prentice> Similar results have been attained in 34 like cases ...but the process is very tedious for the patients, and unless their understanding is clear on the subject, it is almost
impossible to induce them to undergo the trial, The problem with most people is this, the WANT clear vision, but when the plus must be used for the "long-term" they "fade away". This is why pilot is needed, because long-term motivation is required. This is about YOU -- not me.
otissumnerbrown 2 months ago
Age forty-three; myopia; had been wearing over the right eye -1.25 D, left eye -1 D, with little or no change. The eyes in use more or less at the near point. I recommended the removal of the concave glasses for distant vision and prescribed +3.50 D for reading, writing and other office work. (After 8 months, this person's vision was 20/20.) He also reports 34 similar results. Then he says the person IS RESPONSIBLE!!!
otissumnerbrown 2 months ago
Dr Cook also states, "In addition, we prescribe a convex lens (plus glasses) for all prolonged reading a close work"!! He also talks about 16 to 48 "training sessions" at "cost" per session. I don't mind the money -- but is easier for me to get a Snellen and do this work for free. But the issue of sustained motivation if very difficult for most people.
otissumnerbrown 2 months ago
OD Book for pilots -- by David L. Cook. "Vision -- what every pilot needs to know". He states that, "Although there are no hard and fast rules -- if acuity is 20/50 or better, there is a good chance to obtain 20/20 (by his methods) that include heavy use of a plus. I am in complete agreement with this statement. Pilots can be HIGHLY SELF-MOTIVATED. Prevention starts with your own checking of your Snellen. There are those who will complain that successful plus -- is "tedious".
otissumnerbrown 2 months ago
Over-prescription -- or why a "prescription" is inaccurate. I you are "lucky" you are wearing an excessive minus. I have seen people with a -3 diopter prescription, PASS the FAA 3rd requirement. Do not rely on any "prescription" -- do it yourself with your Snellen. If 20/50 or so, it takes about three months to get better than this FAA requirement. It is not easy -- no one said it would be.
otissumnerbrown 2 months ago
FAA Requirement: (The reason why self-check is necessary and wise.)
67.303 Eye. Eye standards for a thirdclass airman medical certificate are:
(a) Distant visual acuity of 20/40 or better in each eye separately, with or without corrective lenses. If corrective lenses (spectacles or contact lenses) are necessary for 20/40 vision, the person may be eligible only on the condition that corrective lenses are worn while exercising the privileges of an airman certificate. (More later)
otissumnerbrown 2 months ago
If you are interested in protecting your distant vision, or are slightly "negative" -- then get a Snellen eye-chart, and see with line you read 1/2 the letters correctly. If you judge that a "plus" will "hurt you" -- stop reading this. If you are 20/40, and are willing to "work" with the plus, it takes about six months to a year to "go postive" and clear your Snellen. This work is not for children. The plus has been used on thousands of children (bifocal) with no adverse effects.
otissumnerbrown 2 months ago
Continued from July 26 post:
Pilot> I'm sorry I have not taken the time to write or call you until now. On December 4, I passed a FAA 1st Class Physical and, under much less than ideal conditions, read 20/15 on the eye chart! Thank you for all you have done to help me.
Otis> I sent him my book -- now FREE on the net. It is up to each person to check his Snellen himself. Like "weight loss", no one can tell you what to do -- certainly not me.
otissumnerbrown 2 months ago
For those of you who "fear" the plus lens when you are at 20/40 (on your Snellen) PLEASE log-off this site. Here is a pilot (at 20/40) who was not in fear of wearing a plus.
Pilot> Hi! I went out and bought a pair of +1.75 diopter reading glasses, and two days later my vision improved from 20/70 - 20/80 to 20/50 at an exam today. The Doctor wanted to sell me $500.00 worth of (Band-aid) lenses. What a ripoff! (Continued 8 months later.)
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What is the medical opinion (on prevention)? It is this -- it is absolutely IMPOSSIBLE TO PREVENT, by any method, and by any person. I would agree that it is very difficult, and must depend on the wisdom and motivation of the person himself. This separates the "medical issues" from the scientific issue of avoiding entry, or at the threshold getting out of it with a plus worn for moths. This is why Colgate and others were successful. They realized there was no choice but "doing it yourself"
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Normal refractive status (difference) between the eyes. There is a typical difference of from zero to 3/4 diopters. If you read 20/25 with on eye, and 20/40 the difference would be about 3/4 diopters. I advocate that a person obtain some simple minus lenses from Zennioptical to check this as a matter of engineering an professional interest.
otissumnerbrown 2 months ago
Why read a Snellen? Why weigh yourself? If the military requirement is that I must weigh less that 180 pounds, and I weigh 190 pounds -- I would be a damn fool to pretend that I "lost weight", but never checked myself. If you want to pass the 20/20 line, then you must be certain you read the 20/20 or better -- BEFORE YOU GO TO THE FAA FOR THEM TO CHECK? Have I missed some point here?
otissumnerbrown 2 months ago
Why I insist that we read our own Snellen. The reason is TRUST. When some OD tells you that you are 1) 20/40, or 2) -1, -2, -3 diopters myopic, I have found that there are many gross errors. If you are told you are 20/30 to 20/25 -- that may be a casual remarks of an OD WHO HAS NO INTEREST (AND PROBABLY DOES NOT CARE) about you long-term visual welfare. This is 90 percent of the plus-prevention approach. It is taking total responsibility to "do measurements yourself".
otissumnerbrown 2 months ago
I have a question, i just stated wearing plus 1.5 lenses and i was wondering when watching TV should I wear the glasses at the blurry point, if yes then i'll do that but i should also say that the blurry point makes me have to sit pretty close to the tv, is this still good for my eyes?
cdudetheassassin 2 months ago
@cdudetheassassin Some suggestions. Anything beyond 40 inches -- I would not wear the plus. The reason is that the eye "accommodates" for distance. Beyond 40 inches (1 meter) the amount of accommodation required is less-than 1 diopter. It is only for reading, or "on the computer" that you should wear the plus. This is the distance you "push away" to find "just blur". Also -- what line do you read on your Snellen? Very important!!
otissumnerbrown 2 months ago
Obtaining FREE eye chart. Down-load and print this chart:
.i-see.org/eyecharts.html
Select the Joel Schneider (PDF). That is the best chart. I use a felt-tip pen to write the line (20/20, 20/50 etc.) so I can read it at 20 feet. Let me know if you can't do this.
otissumnerbrown 2 months ago
I believe in showing how to 1) Check you Snellen 2) Obtain "test" lenses, 3) Read Snellen through test lenses 4) Personally measure your refractive state with your own test lenses. These videos are now on YouTube. Just type, "OtisSumnerBrown", to review them.
otissumnerbrown 2 months ago
@otissumnerbrown I'll do just that, thanks for the information, I am 14 right now and i'm studying everything i can about jets, meeting people, and even taking some flight lessons, this is basically the only thing standing in my way of achieving my goal of becoming an Air force Pilot, it would also be helpful if you could tell how to set it up, sorry if i seem like i'm asking to much, i can't thank you enough right now for letting me know what i can do. when i get my test done ill post it here!
cdudetheassassin 2 months ago
@cdudetheassassin Since you are 14, and love flying -- then that is a great "motivator". The concept (of reducing) the near environment with a plus -- is not to difficult to understand. But what is difficult, is the long-term persistence required in the use of a plus for all close-work. That probably "prevents" people from this type of effort. It is very clear that no one can tell you what you should do. That is for you to work out. But get a Snellen and put it up -- permanently.
otissumnerbrown 2 months ago
@otissumnerbrown I'll try this method out once i get my plus lenses in about 2 weeks. I will be sure to be very patient and use the glasses whenever i'm reading, watching tv, on the computer, ect... also i don't know if this is important but i seem to be more nearsighted in my right eye than my left. don't know if that says anything but i just thought i should let you know. Thanks again.
cdudetheassassin 2 months ago
@cdudetheassassin It is very important that you set up a Snellen NOW. That is far more important that getting a plus lens. I can only ESTIMATE the strength of the plus you can use. You will find that with a +2 you should be able to read at 20 inches. Pushing work away, you will find that it will begin to "blur" at 25 inches. You can get these "plus" glasses in the drug store. This is the best way -- and does not cost anything. Do both -- 1) Get Snellen, 2) Drug-store plus.
otissumnerbrown 2 months ago
@otissumnerbrown Ok, so i'll get everything set up tommrow, the snellen chart and the glasses. And also when i'm reading or something, should read when the wordss blur and read while the words are blurry? or should I read at the distance where i can see the letters clearly before it gets blurry. And i think i'll start off with +3 lenses to get faster results
cdudetheassassin 2 months ago
@cdudetheassassin With all due respect -- you probably can not wear a +3 diopter plus lens. You must experiment with the plus in the drug store to find the plus that is most comfortable for you. Start with a +1.5. Reading should be clear to about 25 inches. The try a +2. My typical reading distance is about 22 inches. You want to "push away" with a plus, until you can not read the lettters. You want the letters (or computer) to be comfortable to read. Try it.
otissumnerbrown 2 months ago
@otissumnerbrown Ok i just got the 1.5 30 min ago, no i'm going to get the Snellen chart. I also have one more question. I have an Xbox and when i'm looking at the TV should I be wearing the glasses at the blurry distance like i would do with the book? or should i not wear the glasses when it comes to TV. Thanks again
cdudetheassassin 2 months ago
@cdudetheassassin Hi, If you are not going to print out your Snellen -- you will have no idea what you are doing!! No objective judgment of results will be possible. You are kidding yourself (in my opinion) if you will not do it. After all -- what is the point??
otissumnerbrown 2 months ago
@otissumnerbrown Ok so I'll print out the snellen from your sight, I should have the results within 2 hours, I'll keep you updated! and how far away should I stand from the chart when testing?
cdudetheassassin 2 months ago
@cdudetheassassin Hi, 20/20 means you stand 20 feet from the chart. The second "20" means the letters are 3/8 inch high. Remember -- this is about you and what YOU want to achieve. This is like "Pre-flight" of an airplane. If I don't check the plane (controls, gas, etc.) I would be a very poor (and dangerous pilot). Further, if I have a Snellen and home, and NEVER CHECK IT, (and have 20/40 vision) I am not "responsible" for flight safety. That is why I check.
otissumnerbrown 2 months ago
@otissumnerbrown Hey, i just took the test and for my right eye i couldn't really make out what the letters were at the 30 ft and for my left eye, it would be the 25 ft line where my eyes couldn't tell the difference between some of the letters
cdudetheassassin 2 months ago
@cdudetheassassin Good! That is a reality check. You would pass the State DMV test which requires that you read 20/40 with both eyes open, or with the "better eye". You would fail the FAA 1st class test, which requires 20/20 with both eyes. My estimate of the amount of "minus" it would take to get 20/20 would be this, -1/2 for the left eye, and about -1.25 for the right eye. You could use a +2 to +2.5 for all close work -- because that would have the best effect.
otissumnerbrown 2 months ago
@cdudetheassassin The FAA 3rd class calls for 20/40 or better for both eyes. When we see with both eyes open, we see with the better eye. With both eyes you will probably be able to read the 20/25 line. Wise, persistent use of the plus for three or four months, could get you to (both eye) 20/20. More work could get both eyes to 20/20. You now have a difficult choice to make. Otis
otissumnerbrown 2 months ago
@otissumnerbrown Thats great to know, I plan on being able to see the 20/20 line clearly with both eyes with one of them closed so that i know i qualify, I'm going to buy the 2.5 today and see how far it will take me in a week. And also how often should I test myself on the snellen?
cdudetheassassin 2 months ago
@cdudetheassassin I am a professional. I pre-flight my aircraft, so I pre-flight my eyes. I would keep the Snellen up (in bright light) and just check every few days. The real goal (for now) would be to read the Snellen with both eyes open, at 20/20. That is a good goal that I think you could achieve in about two months. The eye changes -- but VERY SLOWLY -- so be prepared. When you get to 20/20 (both eyes) you can fly with no glasses -- but must continue wearing the plus.
otissumnerbrown 2 months ago
@otissumnerbrown ok thanks, and once i get 20/20 vision can i take breaks from the glasses, and if so how long should it be?
cdudetheassassin 2 months ago
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otissumnerbrown 2 months ago
@cdudetheassassin It will take about six months of heavy use of a +2.5 to get to 20/20 for both eyes. When you get there, you can quit wearing the plus, until your natural eyes again "adjust" to near, and you begin developing 20/25 again. But after you get to 20/20, you can protect yourself as necessary. You are close enough to 20/20 -- so I think you can make it.
otissumnerbrown 2 months ago
@cdudetheassassin Here is how I set up my Snellen at 20 feet. Type, "OtisSumnerBrown" into "YouTube". You will see a number of videos. Click on the on titled, "Snell_View". Determine the line that you can read 1/2 to 3/4 the letters correctly. You don't have to read all the letters to pass the line.
otissumnerbrown 2 months ago
@cdudetheassassin How to "Push Print" and experiment in selecting a plus in the drug store. Go to my videos, and select, "Plus Choice". Remember, I am not a medical person, and I don't give any medical advice. I only describe what I would do for the purpose of prevention. Further, I don't "argue" with ODs about this issue -- I just make certain I pass the required line on my own Snellen -- before I go for any test.
otissumnerbrown 2 months ago
@cdudetheassassin (Remarks by my nephew -- who used the plus). Keith> I use these glasses nearly 100 percent of the time when I read text books and use them for about 70 percent of the total reading I do. I started using them as much as possible again because, at the end of last semester my sight was pretty bad (I didn't check them on a chart). I am lucky to have an uncle who showed me back in eighth grade that I could prevent my nearsightedness. (That is what is required.)
otissumnerbrown 2 months ago
Remarks of a pilot (from my book, "How to Avoid...") " I'm sorry I have not taken the time to write or call you until now. On December 4, I passed a FAA 1st Class Physical and, under much less than ideal conditions, read 20/15 on the eye chart! Thank you for all you have done to help me. I have at least 15 pilots and friends now wearing reading glasses. I am one-quarter through the rough draft on my vision book, and I am slowly making progress." (This took six months.)
otissumnerbrown 2 months ago
First, I thank "SuperTop" for making this review possible. But a complete discussion is difficult in this format. For a true interactive discussion please go to "GettingStronger . Org, and click on, "Discussion Forum". Then click on "Rehabilitation". The site is conducted by Todd Becker, who cleared off -3 diopters -- so you never know what can be achieved -- and I can make no predictions about any results.
otissumnerbrown 2 months ago
I want to become an Airforce pilot as well and i just took an eye exam today and they told me that i have 20/30 - 20/40 vision, do i qualify or should i get some glasses on
cdudetheassassin 2 months ago
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otissumnerbrown 2 months ago
@cdudetheassassin I would personally obtain your own Snellen chart and check this yourself. You can obtain a free chart by Googling "MyopiaFree" and then selecting "Prevention". Our natural eyes simply "go down" from long-term close work as required in high school and college. Read the remarks, and if you wish, give it a try!
otissumnerbrown 2 months ago
@otissumnerbrown Hey, I just checked out the sight and I am a bit confused, can you please explain exactly how I can restore my vision back to 20/20? i'll be willing to try anything, just as long as i will get 20/20 sight when i turn 17. thanks for your help!
cdudetheassassin 2 months ago
@cdudetheassassin I suggest that you get 1) An eye chart 2) Determine which line you can read 1/2 to 3/4 the letters. 3) Post your PERSONAL results here. 4) Don't rely on an OD to tell you WHAT YOUR READ. Do it yourself. No one can predict how long it will take. Some are successful - some see no results. If you asked me to guess, with VERY HEAVY USE OF A PLUS, from 20/30, I would suggest about six months.
otissumnerbrown 2 months ago
This minus on your brother destroyed his vision. I you are in the range of 20/40 or so (about -3/4 diopter) it is possible to get out of it -- but it does take strong resolve. For free, I created some videos on how to do this yourself. Just type "MyopiaFree" in Google, to get the history of this difficult situation. Thanks for making this public. I get my test lenses from Zennioptical, because no one will help me with this process. Thanks!
otissumnerbrown 2 months ago
@otissumnerbrown Otis, by the way, I a big fan of your articles you have online. I'm so glad I'm not the only one who believes in restoring eyesight rather than making money by prescribing negative lenses and making the eyes worse, till the point their legally blind.
SuperTopReviews 2 months ago
@SuperTopReviews Thanks for your statement! I don't mind PAYING an MD for a medical review. But that review (when you are at 20/40) MUST include a discussion of YOU taking full control, and conducting prevention yourself. It DOES take time to become successful, and I clearly state this. Doing this yourself (at no cost to you) is the real message on my site. Getting from 20/40 to 20/20 will take (on the average) about eight months. Be prepared for this.
otissumnerbrown 2 months ago
@otissumnerbrown How many days do you go before changing your strengths such as +1.25 to +2.25 and so on
cr0wnz730 2 months ago
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otissumnerbrown 2 months ago
@cr0wnz730 I must assume you are at 20/40 (about -3/4 diopter). If that is the case (you check yourself), you can use a +1.25 for all close work. As your Snellen clears (by +1/2 diopter) you can then move to a +1.75 diopter. The amount of "plus" is determined by you by reading at the "just blur" point. You can get the plus (for this testing) at a drug store. I describe how to do this in my free book on the Interment.
otissumnerbrown 2 months ago
-4.25 in both eyes
cr0wnz730 2 months ago
@cr0wnz730 To be effective, the preventive plus must be understood and started before you start wearing a minus lens -- in my opinion. For the pilot who is at 20/25 to 20/30, and has a strong desire (and persistence) to wear the plus (about +2.0) diopters for all close work, the prevention (and clearing is possible). I think ALL PROFESSIONALS should inform of this issue -- when we are at 20/30. The truth? None of them will -- tragically. This is why "do it yourself" is necessary.
otissumnerbrown 2 months ago
Hi, To make this easy, I have posted a "Refractive State" video. That will provide you with a Snellen, and how to check your own visual acuity. This process is recommended for pilots who have the motivation to persist with this effort. The rest will be up to you. The cost is almost nothing -- but the will power required is very great.
otissumnerbrown 3 months ago
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otissumnerbrown 3 months ago
Like what'll be the max strentght to achieve faster results..is it like 3.00 or more
Prican271984 3 months ago
@Prican271984 yea, +3.00 is a good starting point. But if you can handle +5 then go with that. Just a warning though, you might get a headache if you start with +5. You can really feel your eyes being trained with the higher you go in numbers. It's like going in the gym and lifting weights.
SuperTopReviews 3 months ago
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otissumnerbrown 3 months ago
Wow ... would this work on a me... I can only see through one eye and that's my right eye.. because in the left eye I have retinal detachment so im blind for good in the left ..but I can still see on the right eye. What kinda lenses should I wear... because I can't see from far. Please help me thanks.
Prican271984 3 months ago
@Prican271984 I don't see why it shouldn't work for you. Go to any Walgreens and just grab reading glasses from one of the aisles. They come in varying strengths, you can use any strength. While reading with them on, move back a little to just slightly blur the text, and your eyes will start to get stronger. It does take lots of time. I heard that it takes on average 6months to get 20/20 vision if you have 20/40 vision. But I know people that wear the glasses all day and see results faster :)
SuperTopReviews 3 months ago
hey man i tried ur thing yesterday i can already see better. because i could read wat it said on the guide on my tv now yeterday it was blurry
Daniel75ification 4 months ago
@Daniel75ification that's awesome. It's very important to keep a habit going until it becomes perfect. For faster results where stronger plus lenses if you like. I hope you have success!!! :)
SuperTopReviews 4 months ago
Um, there are some questions I like to ask.In the easy term to understand is that are you saying that nearsightners should be wearing farsightness glasses??? Didnt mean to ask you this, but have your vision improved completely using this technique??? Must only use when reading or use at any time???
Tera1996 4 months ago
@Tera1996 I'm going to have my eyes checked in two weeks and will post a video on the results, so far I can see the 20/20 line with both the left and right eye for only a few seconds. before it blurs. I had -1,00 prescribed for both of my eyes and now with plus lenses I'm almost at 20/20 vision. I also found out that ;you should start with +3.00 lenses to correct nearsightedness. This will achieve faster results.. I try to wear mine almost all the time, but I take them off when watching TV.
SuperTopReviews 4 months ago
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otissumnerbrown 3 months ago