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  • Good thing there is an opera mini app...

  • Opera is awesome and fast but it's pretty stupid that they copied pretty much iphone web browser xD

  • You guys dont get it. Opera mini offers free mobile browsing To other mobile phones but not iphones.

  • Opera mini sucks on the iPhone.

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  • @oxygenromania Uhm ye until you check how much data usage you conserve :)

  • like the irony that its a fake apple ad :)

  • good to bring attention to the issue but not really that funny

  • i think mr meow meow needs to calm down

  • haha.. get the stick out of your ass.

    The only message in this video:

    Opera is a free web browser for any phone... except the iphone doesn't want it.

  • I was thinking the same thing, but for some reason you've been thumbed down lol.

    Their trying to compare a web browser with a phonw...WTF?

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  • ROFL i thumbed you down... if you can only understand things "ad litteram " you're an idrone.

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  • This is excellent for the ipjone

  • Now with Opera Mini 5 is more enjoyable, faster, BETTER! :D Opera rocks!

  • I compared my friend's Dads Iphone 3G to my cell phones Opera mini side by side. Both in landscape view. Loaded nationalgeograpic

    Opera mini: 14 seconds

    Iphone 3G: 33 Seconds

    Both had full bars on the EDGE Network!

  • opera is great!!

  • If you have a fast connection, there is no reason to switch.

    But on a slow connection Opera Mini will outperform ANY browser significantly due to it's proxy compression.

    BTW: The new Opera Turbo functionality does something similar for PCs.

  • Thos doesn't make sense... You're comparing a web browser to a phone...

    You need to buy the a phone to use Opera mini in the first place and Safari is free so this video is pointless...

  • Advanced Web browsing has always been one of the iPhone's selling point.

    The point of this video is, you don't need to buy an iphone to have a decent browser, any cell phone released in a last few years will do (you know anyone who doesn't have one of those already?)

    So practically, you can get an advanced browser for free, on any phone.

    I started using Opera Mini on a Sony Ericsson K300, and have been a fan ever since.

  • I LUV Opera Mini 4.2 on My Kyocera Widcard!

    I use it when my housemates are on the house computer.

    It's a fantastic alternative when a PC or Laptop is unavailable.

  • wrong title 0.o shouldn't it be opera mini vs safari ? or iphone browser?

  • Opera mini is kickass I have the unlimited data plan for $15 on my vu and most pages load in 5 seconds (AND THATS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE COUNTRY). In 3g, if you blink you dont even see a loading screen. Its that fast! Youtube is great on the vu also. Ide get the unlimited data plan if I were u (but Iphone's is $30 like the blackberry)

  • You have to blink really slow with my phone... LOL

  • The Safari browser on the IPOD touch is about the only thing I hate on this device. Honestly it sucks. Would be nice to have a real browser like Opera Mini or a Mini version of Firefox.

  • Safari is pretty great although it doesn't have full flash either. I've got IE, skyfire, torch iris, and opera mobile on my phone. Opera is the fastest but skyfire does flash the best.

  • only problem is safari is free too. so huh...

  • i must laugh??

  • ...is this funny?

  • she is so hot!!! wow!! S

  • ok i agree when people say the internet is better and faster on iphone, but opera mini costs fuck all its a win win situation

  • How can the internet be better and faster on the iphone for example if you use the same wi-fi connection.. wtf?

  • It is up to 80% faster (and cheaper) because all the web pages are compressed before they reach your mobile.

  • haha iphone got owned

  • @a1016neo:

    Opera Mini is faster than Opera Mobile. You not knowing this shows that you have no idea....

  • does anyone know if they ever gonna make opera mini for samsung instinct cuz rite now it doesnt work at all.......

  • it should work. please email me and i can help u out.

  • no. i have a samsung blackjack 2 with windows mobile 6 and i have at&t's 3g network on my phone. internet with opera mini anywhere at blzaing fast speeds :)

  • pwnd and it coudl b 700 if u dont have plan

  • opera mini sucks!!! does not work with motorola i850. ipod touch is okay

  • lol you are just burning because it doesn't work with crappy motorola? How can you even say it sucks if you can't try it lol!

    Operamini Rocks.

  • opera mini works with every cell phone with java, its your service that makes opera mini not work, duh.

  • If you do not want anything more than a phone and a browser then I I think iPhone is the winner, smooth and slick!

    I'll stick to my boring XDA Orbit 2 with SatNav / PDA / Phone / with MS Office :(

    If you want more you'll want a windows mobile with GPS on.

    PS I'm not a mad Microsoft fan either :/

    Linux operating systems have better reliability but I'm Microsoft institutionalised.

  • The iPhone costs twice as much and can't even do all the thing that my BlackBerry 8130 have. The pile of shit doesn't even have 3G. Sure it's sexy, but it's nowhere near as productive, functional, or efficient as a proper BlackBerry. Get out of my face iFag.

  • It now costs $199 and now has 3G with support for Microsoft Exchange. But still, it IS expensive.

  • It's cheap for what you get.

  • Lol I seriously don't see why everyone in these comments is saying that the iPhone is so much better at browsing the net rather than something with opera mini; the iPhone doesn't have 3G. Even if you did go somewhere that has wifi, why not just use a laptop or something. Something that can use opera mini could have 3G and wifi... now lets see what the people who use mobiles for browsing the net are going to by.

    I would still get an iPhone though :)

  • I had opera mini. It was useable, but not pleasant. I would use it if I couldn't get to a computer and NEEDED to find something out.

    I now have an iPhone. It didn't break the bank as this video suggests and web browsing using Safari is awesome. It's intuitive, fast and almost feels like I'm using a real computer. Lack of flash sucks balls, but it beats the pants off Opera mini. And yeah, comparing software to hardware is like comparing colours and smells - it only makes sense if you're tripping.

  • Opera mini is free and works on almost any Java-Phone.

  • I don't understand. Iphone is a phone/media player and opera mini is a browser. How in the slightest are they competing? You might as well be comparing photoshop to a logitech mouse.

    The only reason opera mini is free is because it can be reproduced over and over again free.

    Maybe they should be comparing the safari browser for iphone to opera mini.

    This ad sucks.

  • Well 10 points for constructing a sentence of sorts. Can't say much for grammar. Lucky for you i'm fluent in gorilla. Ooga booga booga.

  • pffffff ahahahahahahaahahahaah

  • bahahaha xD

  • I have the Samsung A737 and the MEdiaNet browser worked ok and the download service did too, but then I downloaded Opera Mini and after a day it started saying connection failure in the AT&T Mall and in Opera Mini. The phone's 3G or EDGE symbol would disappear even though before it had 4 bars of 3G. I then deleted Opera Mini and turned off and on my phone. Still no luck on MEdiaNet. I then attempted this after hard resetting the phone. Still no luck. If anyone knows anything please tell me!

  • opera mini rules thx so much opera i love the landscape mode and LOVE opera link to have all my bookmarks sync with my computer, i think opera mini is plenty user friendly

  • What the heck is an Oprah Mini?

  • It's Opera. Its a web browser for mobile devices.

  • I want my bandwidth back.

  • YES MacOSXrulez FINALLY STFU HAHA!

  • you sure talk alot for someone who can't back what they say so much as understand what they are saying themselves.

  • u stupid ass i do bac up everything havent u even read my posts..u little dooshbag had to flame me instead of staying on topic...i little shit

  • theres a hack for almmost anything in windows mobile u little bitch i had a iphone i know it sucks mmthats why i went to windows mobile..iphones are nice ipods thats it..they aint great pocket pc's.get a windows mobile like the tilt or the touch they dont lag u fag.bsides u got a pay att 20 dollars more a month just to beause its an iphone. thats the main reason why i got rid of it..pay more do less. that should be the iphone slogan. now STFU u little noobie u dont know shit what ur saying!

  • nobodys gives a shit about copy and paste until the time comes up to do it than ur like damn i wish i can copy and paste.along with other things u cant do..try viewing a MMS picture when u recieve it have u done that u little fucker. u have to write down the whole URL on a piece of paper than open safari and type the whole address letter by leter just to view the fucking picture u gotta be kidding me..and besides that you cant even send pics windows mobile has a hack in fact

  • i know what u mean noobster but user friendly is being able to copy and paste stuff like links.....and you cant do that on safari..mac phones are lame yeah they might be faster but its like having a v12 lambo without any gas....USELESS......

  • the better browser anymore check out the skyfire browser theres a you tube video on here look up skyfire browser..it aint out yet but it will come out real sooon.you talk about full html browser well how about a full html browser with flash embedded videos in which apple doesnt even have! I give apple props for their creativity..but windows can do alot more. so how about them apples!!!!!!!! and now I think its about time YOU STFU!!!!!

  • look, a noob, how good is that? now i will have the pleasure of owning more Windows users that don't know shit about computers, and if you may think that I'm going to shut up, the only one that is bound to shut up at the end, common, do you want me to, do you want me to show you benchmarks to show you that Safari is faster(even though i don't care that much about speed) and i don't give a shit if a browser has flash installed, what i care is that a browser has more features and is user-friendly

  • MacOSXrulez the iphone sucks fat cock u cant even copy and paste on it come on now. The only thing the iphone beats windows devices is the bigger & more sensitive touch screen that it has and the rotating sensor that rotates the screen when u flip the phone along with the sensor that turns the screen off and on when you put the phone on your ear. thats it. give that to windows phones and game over because the safari browser isnt

  • Windows Mobile so far hasn't innovated shit and it's slow and crappy and it's quite buggy too, Microsoft always ends up making inferior products (an example of that is Vista which is full of bugs and even Windows fanboys hate it and they downgraded to XP) which for Microsoft is a big success and their software costs so much and yet it delivers less features, SOOOO Disappointing

  • wow, man, wow, I'm impressed copy and paste LOL, couldn't you come up with an argument better than that, nobody gives a shit about those useless features, sigh...

  • Iphone sucks right now because it doesn't allow you to use 3G to access the web, with them its EDGE or else..

  • There are only more microsoft users than apple users cause u get people who dont know what there buying. People dont know when they drop 1000 dollars on a new dell or compaq that what there really buying is about 500000 viruses.

  • and who gives a shit if it can handle everything on the browser itself, Safari for iPhone browser is better than Opera Mini 4 and Opera Mobile since it is by far easier to use, do you think that anyone uses Opera mini, the answer is no cause it's too complicated and the iPhone is selling by far more than any retarded plasticky and bulky Nokia phone so go eat shit Faggot, you can't deny the fact that the iPhone will always sell better and that people prefer it.

  • 'Better' is subjective. I can say that Opera Mini and Opera Mobile are better because they are faster (especially Mini), and can run on any device and not just iPhone.

    Nokia still sells more phones than Apple too.

    By the way, are you saying that Windows is better than Mac OS because there are more Windows users out there? :D

  • actually, there may be more Windows users but Mac is quickly catching up and in 2 years time is expected to double market share and now it has more market share at the expense of Windows losing market share, in about 2011 Mac should have 20% of the US computer market share so stfu cause Macs are selling more than almost all PC manufacturers

  • Your logic still dictates that Windows is better than Mac OS. Oops!

  • Beautiful ! It's one perfect example of someone lost in the reality distortion field of Apple.

  • Did that prove anything? NO! Shut up n00b.

  • You proved his point.

  • He never made a point to begin with.

  • he did opera mini is stupid

  • whats an opera mini, no other phone has real internet like on ipone

  • I can't tell if you're being sarcasic.... Take a look at Picsel for Windows Mobile.

    There isn't a single thing that the iPhone can do, that windows mobile can't do... And there's A LOT that Windows Mobile can do, that the iPhone can't... I'm not a microsoft fan-boy that has never used an iPhone, I'm realistic that judges it for it's practical use and not it's brand name...

  • find me windows mobile that left this comment, I did on my iPhone. Find me windows mobile with real Internet. With youtube. An iPod. Visual voicemail. Multitouch. Wifi. Mobile music store. A decent looking interface

  • 'Real' Internet - Picsel browser, Opera Mini, Deepfish

    Windows Mobile has youtube, on the 'real' internet, along with everything else flash. Not to mention I can download videos and watch them offline later on, can your iPhone do that?

    iPod - Windows Media Player, pPod, TCMP, vPlayer

    It lacks multi-touch, I'll give you that.

    Almost every WM phone has WiFi 802.11g

  • ALOT OF PHONES R MISSING WIFI

  • I don't want a music store when I can install programs to get me music for free

    Decent interface? Search youtube for PointUI, PocketCM, S2U2 and I think you're forgetting, WM can fully emulate the iPhone interface.

    Guess what, I typed this comment out on my WM's keyboard, not a screen.

  • emulate. That prove its so good that others put it on there phones. Once again on my iPhone after being alerted via email. Never had to backspace due to its near perfect auto correct

  • Oooh wow, the iPhone is so smart, it knows what you want to put into the calculator before you do it? How can you have auto-correct on a calculator...

    Yep, you got alreted VIA email, mine can also do that, and MMS. Try changing your email alert tone.

    I'm not bashing the interface, the interface is nice, but the phone itself is shit.

  • not shit at all. best looking phone with best screen, interface and ease of use. no denying it. i never said the autocorrect was on the calculator, i said on the near perfect KEYBOARD

  • Man, read my other post listing all the things wrong with the iShit.

    I had one, I found myself looking for things I'd expect to see in a phone I paid that much money for, then I went back to my HTC TYTN 2.

  • never heard of. iphone= best phone i've ever had

  • That's because you don't do research before you buy.

  • Now, for being smart, does your iPhone have a 3.2MP camera with flash and autofocus?

    Can you zoom in with the camera?

    Can you record with the camera?

    Can you send TWO images in an email?

    Do you have Microsoft Word, Exel and Powerpoint in your pocket?

    Do you have a physical keyboard?

    Can you emulate the Sega Megadrive and play sonic?

    Do you have a choice between over 10 different interfaces?

    Can you use your music as a ringtone without having to pay for it or hack it?

  • yes, i did put ringtones wo paying or hacking. it ca record with a hack. no one wants a tiny physical none self helping keyboard. i can have 9 home screens and save web pages as icons. who wants to play sonic?

    can u hack yours, create new home screens, does it have a self correcting keyboard, 3.5 inch multitouch screen, good looking screen, thin design, good design at all, an easy interface wo a thousand buttons, does it have an easy interface with no need for a manual, 8 hour talk time,

  • It isn't tiny, it slides out from the phone and I can type on it just as fast as my PC. My 9 homescreen, do you mean the same screen, with different icons?

    Now 'who wants to play sonic'... EVERYONE LOVES SONIC!

  • Yes, I do have a self-correcting on-screen keyboard, but I also have a very comfortable physical keyboard.

    I have a 2.8" screen, easy interface with 2 soft keys, answer call, end call, a dpad and two more button for my to assign to what I want. And no, I don't have 8 hr talk time, I have 12 hour talk time.

  • i have 1 button, a more comfortable keypad which require virtually no pressure, no your interface is not east because u need to cram your stylus into a corner. not many people like sonic, sorry. the cingular 3125 is fucking hage, u could stack 2 of mine and it still would be thinner. need a decent design and an easy to use interface. do u have a motion, proximity, and light sensor? ONE BUTTON thats it. 1 1 1.

    zunes suck

  • You're a prime example of your average apple fanboy. I don't think you understand, I don't hate the iShit because it's better, I hate the iShit because it claims to be 'the best phone' and with all these new features. When in fact, it is FAR from the best phone, and every feature has been around for a long time. Just because they don't come shipped with the phone doesn't mean they don't exist.

    If I want, I can stick a custom ROM on it and have everything preinstalled.

  • I don't use my stylus, at all, period.

    Yes, I have those three features, it's called a CAMERA. And not some shitty 2mp one without zoom or video.

    CORRECT! ONE BUTTON! So if you want to quickly go to something on your iShit, you have to dig though everything on the interface.

    Zunes do suck, the old iPod video is good only because you can put RockBox on it.

    You're being stubborn and ignoring my list of things the iShit lacks.

  • if your gonna call it the ishit, than I'm gonna say opera shitty. I don't give shit bout the camera, thats y I have my canon sx100. Second, here how I get to email, I hit the home button and click email. This is u. Exit out of all programs, dig in the corner to hit the start menu. Choose email, go to inbox. Face it, the iPhone is amazing, and easy to use.

  • Here's what I do, I hit the email button.

    Or if I assign that to something else, I hit the end call key and hit the email button that you can see here

    tinyurl dot com/2zhtgp

    Face it, you've yet again ignored my list and you still can't comprehence I can choose between LOADS of finger-friendly interfaces INCLUDING the iPhone, seen at youtube com/watch?v=AUZmGPEPHG0

  • ok. I know the iPhone isn't a bus. Phone. It still has a proper design and interface. Going to school. Argue later. Bye

  • Maybe when you get a reall job you will be able to afford oen. Until then, don't feel bitter that you don't have the best phone in the world.

    Have fun with your Apple bashing. Its very amusing.

  • I HAD A FUCKING IPHONE! You're retarded. You refuse to look at the facts because you paid so much money for a peice of shit. Why don't you record a video with your precious iShit and post it on youtube! Oh wait, you can't.

  • Nope. Because I will just use my high quality Video Camera instead. Obviously you would make do with a substandard mobile though.

    Heres a bit of advice - just because it says 5 MP doesnt make it high quality. The size of the lens is the key factor. And yours isnt worth shit.

  • You're retarded.

    First of: Wikipedia Megapixel

    Second: So whenever you want a video 'in the moment' you can't record one, unless you carry your camera around with you everywhere? Whereas I just have my phone.

    Windows Mobile kicks the iPhones ass in every way besides the auto-rotate thingy & multi-touch. Read the rest of the comments. Accept it, you paid an excessive amount of money for something I do in the toilet daily.

  • Instead of admitting your Iphone is unable to do things, you say : "I don't want theses things." Well, lucky for you that you don't want it, because you couldn't have them if you wanted to.

  • no, i think the opera web browser sucks, the iphone's interface is far superior and crisp than anything on the market. and now with 3g, it will end all of the competition

  • lol they have recorded tests with the safari 3g, its slow as shit compared to opera mini. opera mini is as fast as desktops now, plus its free for all phones with java, safari is just real nice looking, and thats were it ends, as being a nice looking web browser.

  • Nope! Benchmarks show that Safari renders web pages faster than Opera Mini and Even Opera Mobile!

  • wat tankredworst said is correct opera mini is faster then opera mobile on most phones. and search iphone 3g speed test, around 30 secs for iphone 3gs web page to be FULLY loaded, my opera mini on my nokia 5310 loads pages in like 2-3 secs. and if i had a data plan it would be cheaper then iphones cuz of fast rendering and compacting size of pages, but since i have t-mobile i only need t-zones 5.99 plan and i have unlimited internet. plus opera mini is FREE, and works on EVERY java phone.

  • No Way! Opera Mobile doesn't load the WHOLE FULL WEB PAGE (like the iphone) in 2 - 3 secs! Unless if it's not cached, that will be impossible!

  • ROFL, um yea dude thats why so many ppl love it, its not impossible, go to the opera mini site and actually read everything about it. it loads pages at desk top speeds now and it keeps getting better after every release.

  • I like Opera Mobile better than Opera Mini, but sadly you have to pay for the full version of Opera Mobile, which is actually quite close to Safari Mobile. But without multi-touch, I can't really recommend Opera Mobile/Mini... Maybe if the Blackberry Thunder gets multi-touch... We'll See...

  • why cant you, just cuz of the multi touch, opera mini works on a lot of touch screens actually, i don't think there is any other MULTI touch other then the iphone and other similar ones, but still just because of it not supporting multi touch you cant recommend it, you'd prefer effects to speed O.o plus im sure soon there will be a ported (non official) version on jail braked iphones/touch any way. i still could not handle safari mobile even if its a nice interface still, it lacks.

  • plus im not a big fan on full touch screens, i have tried the touch/iphone many times. i have never gotten used to the keyboard, i need buttons anyway it is cool for the effects, but with everything it lacks still i cant recommended it to serious phone users who use their phones for multi purposes, if i dont have my laptop i can live off my phone, my phone does every thing iphone can but multi touch and the tilt acceleration. those are not major features i look for in a phone :S

  • do they have opera with full flash for n95?? ever heard of sky fire and when the dude said its free does he mean FREE as in to download or it doesnt use 3g or edge just normal signal????

  • are u sure the iphone wasnt on wifi?!

  • Instead of admitting that your Iphone is unable to do things, you just say : "I don't want to have theses things". Good for you. Because, you couldn't have them if you wanted to.

  • What things? *sigh* Shut up and post something good not this crap.

  • Said,"MacFanBoy". l0l

  • what about fun, ease of use,

  • Um Snipereye64, lots of other browsers can comment on YouTube. The iPhone requires a separate app to view YT videos though! Whereas other phones come with Flash support.

    iPhone ripped off the scroll and zoom interface from Nokia and Opera (DS and Wii browsers).

  • No. Do not even try to say they ripped the scroll, because they didn't.

  • Apple did rip off the scrolling. Nokia did it ages ago with their own browser, and so did Opera for devices like Nintendo DS and Wii.

  • who cares if other phones come with Flash support, the bad thing about the other phones is that you have to watch the videos in a tiny screen and you have to use Youtube mobile, while we get to watch it in a bug screen and we get a version of youtube that's more complete and easier to navigate, btw, your the only one taht ripped us off, the iPhone was introduced along with Safari on January 2007, Opera mini 4 was introduced later that year so what your saying is that we predicted the future?

  • MacOSXrulez...

    1: Safari for iPhone does NOT support YouTube. You need a separate app for that since it doesn't support Flash.

    2: There are other phones out there with big screens.

    3: Who mentioned Opera Mini? I mentioned Nokia and Opera for DS and Wii.

  • i didn't say that Safari supports youtube, i said that although we have to run a separate app, our version of Youtube is better than the version of any other device and there are other phones out there with big screens but none of them has a screen that't the size of the iPhone's one, and btw, the Wii as you may know is not a mobile device so it can't be included here plus Nokia and the Opera browsers had the features that you mentioned after January 2007 so the ones that copied are them

  • Sure there are other phones there with huge screens.

    Also, Wii's resolution is limited so Opera needed to implement zooming and panning... The point being that Apple didn't invent the stuff. Nokia, Opera, etc. did it before Apple. And yes, Nokia had it ages before Apple too. They used WebKit on their phones long before the iPhone came along.

    Skyfire kicks iPhone's ass anyway since it can handle ALL media content in the browser itself ;)

  • LOL, what an ignorant, Apple had been making the iPhone for two years, they started making it at 2005, now if you analize for a sec. and start thinking, Wii was on the market in November 2006 and the iPhone was introduced at January, 2 months later and the Wii Opera browser was been developed when it came out, and Safari for the iPhone had some Beta releases before the Wii was introduced so how can you say it's copied? and btw, what prove do you have that the Nokia browser had these features?

  • Ah, now I get it.

    Apple can be working on stuff for a long time, but not Opera or Nokia? So if Apple worked on the iPhone for two years they obviously did the same with the browser, and they even nailed it from the first moment!

    I get it now.

    Nokia's browser was announced ages before the iPhone, buddy. That's common knowledge.

  • what proof do you have of that? i guess none so stfu, the iPhone is a better phone and sells more than all stupid Nokia smartphones, and you can't say that they are faster because you haven't or anyone hasn't done exams. on that and Mini is faster because it isn't a full HTML browser and it loads only a portion of the graphics that the iPhone has to display, Opera mini is not downloaded much and neither is Opera Mobile, and the iPhone supports more web standards, end of story

  • Who cares what causes the faster speeds? All I care about is that it actually IS faster. And you can't deny that.

    And it is not my fault that you are uneducated and ignorant about mobile browsers, and take Steve Jobs' word for gospel. Apple fanboys live in an alternate reality, separate from the real world anyway.

    Opera Mini is not downloaded much? LOL. It has 35 million users as we speak, and growing by hundreds of thousands every week!

  • So now web browsers kick phones butts? What? Two completely different categories there buddy. Nice try.

  • Other web browser kick the iPhone browser's butt. That wasn't so hard to understand, now was it?

  • in what way??? now that will be hard to understand cause the other ones have a crappy UI and don't come to me with the stupid Java excuse, we have better YouTube than you, get this, the iPhone is all round better for consumers, that's why it sells more, end of story

  • The iPhone browser doesn't support YouTube, sorry. You need to open a separate application. How lame! Apple clearly doesn't get it.

    Also, other browsers are faster than the iPhone browser. Safari on iPhone can't even handle many sites at the same time.

    It's also slower than some other browsers (especially Opera Mini), and you can't get it for other phones.

    It's a nice looking browser, but it's clearly not the best.

  • i knew you were gonna come with an excuse, i already told you, our separate YouTube app kicks the ass of the mobile version that you guys use cause ours is easier to use and has more features and i already told you this but the Opera mini takes less to load web pages cause it isn't a full HTML browser like the iPhone and it has to load mobile versions of websites while the iPhone displays the full version, and loading all the graphics on a normal browser takes more than on a mobile one to load

  • want me to say it again, our YouTube app kicks the ass of YouTube mobile asshole, did you get that?

  • The fact that you need a separate YouTube app is quite pathetic in itself. Other people are enjoying the full YouTube experience on their mobile phones as we speak.

    And again, it doesn't matter how. All that matters is that Opera Mini is faster than the iPhone browser. I don't care about technical explanations. All I care about is speed, and the iPhone browser does not deliver speed.

  • hahaha, your such an idiot, just like all N95 owners, i already told you that Safari has to load a full webpage so that people can get a better internet experience but if you want to continue with your cheap-ass Opera mini then good for you, i will be surfing the web in stile and having a FULLY featured web browser while you have to load crappy mobile site, and saying that speed is what matters most in a browser is quite pathetic cause Opera mini lacks a lot of features

  • you have absolutely no idea how good the YouTube app is since your ignorance has never told you to ever touch an iPhone, you have no proof that the mobile version of YouTube is better than the app, the app has more features and has a cleaner and better UI, so once again, stfu n00b

  • Eh?

    I don't have an N95. I never even mentioned what kind of phone I have, buddy.

    Safari on the iPhone is a standalone browser like Opera and Nokia's browser, but it can't handle YouTube, and it isn't as fast as Mini. So Opera and Nokia have an advantage when it comes to regular browsers, and Opera Mini has the speed advantage.

    Opera Mini loads full, normal sites. No mobile sites needed. That's the whole point of the browser.

  • YOU ARE SO WRONG NOOB, the only mobile version of Opera that loads normal webpages, not mobile one's is Opera Mobile, and because it has to load FULL webpages, it takes longer than Safari to load them (and Safari loads full HTML webpages too) so stfu before you say stupid shit, and your as ignorant as you can be, and mini also has the advantage of being a POS when it comes to features when compared to Safari, you are so full of yourself, give it up, you lost and are always saying the same shit

  • Actually, with Opera mini (not talking mobile) you have to ability to load the full web page or a mobile view, your choice.

    Just thought people might like facts instead of rambling.

  • yeah but if you do that it won't be as fast as Safari anymore :)

  • How would you know it's faster if you didn't even know if Opera Mini could load full pages?

    I've never used the iPhone so I can't comment on that.

  • MacOSXrulez, that's exactly the point. Opera Mini IS faster than Safari at loading full web pages. The page is compressed just like a JPEG file is much smaller than a BMP file because of compression. But it's still the full image. The full contents.

  • You are incorrect.

    First of all, the regular Opera Mobile loads pages faster than the iPhone browser, but that's besides the point.

    The point is that Opera Mini gets compressed data, so it's MUCH faster than iPhone-Safari. I mean, REALLY noticeable.

    But Opera Mini DOES load the full webpages. You get all the FULL content. It's just that it's compressed to make it faster. Compressed doesn't mean that actual content is removed.

  • you have no proof whatsoever that Opera mobile is faster and speed and even if it where faster that DOES NOT mean that it's a better browser and you make it sound like if a 2-3 second difference would be huge, like i said, Safari for iPhone is a Full-HTML browser and to me and most people what matters is features which if you compare, Opera Mobile and Mini have less

  • I think I already explained to you that 'better' is a subjective term. To me, Opera Mini is better than the iPhone browser because it's faster and cheaper. To me, Opera Mobile is better than the iPhone browser because it's faster and has proper YouTube support.

    Features? If counting features is what makes a better browser for you, good for you! That doesn't mean that everyone else counts features to determine which browser is better for them.

  • whats the music? i dont know what its called? did the people make it them selfs? i really want to know.

  • Same with Palm and Windows Mobile devices.

  • htc touch? +1 WM (but im pretty sure some iphone guy will give me the thumbs down)

  • i give you thumbs up because you are right... the iphone is a great device but by far not the best one out there!

  • I agree, refer to my comment above :-).

  • yes it is

  • i use both safari and opera mini...

    but as sombody said: if opera will come to iphone, i will use it.

  • Safari isn't better. It's just the hardware that's better than most other phones out there.

  • isnt it okra

    im not sure eather

  • Yeah Apple sucks, but so does your comercial...

  • i agree apple is crap and window will rule the world

  • this aint even window u moron

  • what the fuck are you talking about

  • (cont.) not only did they needed a class action lawsuit for 3rd Party Apps, but if you even installed a 3rd party app, the new iPhone update would've become bricked cause apple didn't want that. I'm not saying that Blackberry and Windows are better for it, they both have it's pro's and cons. FOr example...Windows mobile wont sync with Apple machines, but iPhone is cross platform. Very inconvenient...

  • Wow...there's a lot of fanboys here about the safari vs opera. I have opera on my phone with WM6, and it's very fast, efficient, fluid and a bit better then PIE. It's mainly opinion, and I think people take opinions too litterally. iPhone is great, but they definately has it's weakness. I mean they needed to have a class action lawsuit just to start support on 3rd party apps. >_>

  • Apple already said yes to developers of 3rd party applications for the iPhone, don't you read the news?

  • Did you read his next comment, SuckOSXsucks? Quote:

    'not only did they needed a class action lawsuit for 3rd Party Apps'