they said JAB defeats speed .. that's also they use on MOSLEY .. vernon .. winky and cotto uses that to shane ... but .. of course manny is given he will defeat you with his own style
Floyd knows pacman is his biggest obstacles to get to the P4P king...he has no guts to fight him....just pure trash talking and taunting.....sign the contarct 50/50 floyd....quit whining like your dad..
Does anybody know how much money floyd got against baldomir???? because he turned down margarito for 8 million before that.. a floyd fan was arguing with me that floyd got 12 million against baldomir. we all know a fight against baldomir isn't worth 12million. absolute bullshit of course.. how much did floyd really get from that fight?? couldn't find any articles that say how much floyd really got from that bout.
Floyd Mayweather returned to boxing SPECIFICALLY for Manny Pacquiao, so the fight will happen. Those who think that Floyd is ducking Manny are delusional. Floyd retired to avoid the LEGITIMATE WELTERS at the time (Margarito, Cotto, Williams, Mosley, Clottey, etc.). Mayweather would NEVER, and I mean NEVER, take a fight with Mosley. Pacquiao is smaller with shorter reach, so he would have to take risks the whole fight against a masterful counterpuncher like Mayweather.
Floyd Mayweather has no chance with Manny Paquiao unless he runs around the ring like a scared dog. Mayweather only looked good against Marquez because Marquez is a counter puncher. Marquez is 37 years old and he is not a pound for pound fighter. When Mayweather fought Oscar Dela Hoya it was a split decision. Dela hoya was trained by Freddie Roach and he almost won. Manny Paquiao will throw 100 punches for 12 rounds
marquez was not a p4p ranked fighter when he fought floyd? What crack you smoking? The man handed pac 2 losses anyway. punch output doesnt mean squat if you cant land fool. simple boxing knowledge.
Do not predict then next time!!! What is your prediction again? I'll go again with the Pacman!!! Honestly, MW jr will be the easier fighter to beat Pacman. I'm 100% sure as Roach said. Manny would really likes to kick that bitch, big mouth and cocky gayweather!!!
i dont think arum is ganna aim for mosley. he already has a fight comin up with berto. but i dont think manny should fight him tho cuz cotto already beaten him. mayweather vs pacquiao HAS to happen by spring 2010 or so
oh surely PBF wont dock this one, simply bcoz manny is much much smaller than he is and manny brings a lot of cash for him... this willl happen, and arums gonna tilt the deal to his side, PBF will be pressured by the world and accept the offer.
People consider Mosley a huge threat. Sure he has punching power, but it's as if fans forget about the flaws in the Margarito fight and the Mayorga fight that he struggled badly, was losing and then won in the last second.
People just simply forget about what they've actually SEEN and simply follow what they're told. Hopefully my new article / video 'The Pacquiao Deception' will open the eyes to many boxing fans to the reality that's misshapen by the media.
See, even Obtuse9 is on the bandwagon that Blood is talking about. The media has skewed the perception of so many fans, they're actually LISTENING to what ESPN / HBO are telling them to believe. Damn, it's a pretty sad affair.
You only speak of Mayweather allegedly ducking and dodging... Manny will never, unlike Floyd, say he wants the fight, not once, he ALWAYS palms it off to Arum (who we know cannot deal with floyd). Pac will wait for Mosley, he only wants weak opponents, just like Floyd.
Weak opponents, fact. Name one of these guys that was strong and dangerous against Manny:
Oscar De La Hoya
Ricky Hatton
Miguel Cotto
Please, go on, please let me know who out of those 3 you feel was solid opposition. You'd be LYING to yourself and me, to name ANY of them if you are a true boxing fan. Not Manny fan, BOXING fan.
My whole fuckin' point is that the media portray fighters like Floyd as the bad guy, the guy duckin' everyone, YET... Pacquiao is doing the EXACT, IDENTICAL same thing and NOBODY is seeing it, even though it's fuckin' OBVIOUS!
Why would Floyd or Manny take any truly difficult fights BEFORE they fight eachother? There's no logical point is there?
Both Floyd and Manny are taking easy fights until THEY clash.
I always forsaw it as e very easy fight, as did Gambeino and many other boxing enthusiasts that looked past the media and looked at the fighters directly.
Many fight fans, with a logical, unbiased perception, knew the fight would be easy for Pac, which it was...
@southstaronline Did you watch how Pacquiao was badly beaten by Morales. Devastating. He came back strong so I don't see why Cotto should have been any different. So your logic of: "A devastating defeat changes some fighters, especially those whom were originally undefeated." is spot on. It actually goes two ways. Either you come back weak or come back strong. It all depends on how the fighter reconditions themselves. If you say that Cotto was ill prepared then--tough shit.
What do you mean you don't see why Cotto should have been any different? We're all individuals, with individual personalities.
Pacquiao had already suffered KO defeats in his past, so he could better handle defeat at this stage of his career. Cotto couldn't, even against a C class fighter in Michael Jennings he struggled to adjust himself to the ring. He could've jumped on Jennings and taken him out in the first round, it was that one sided.
@southstaronline cont'd from below. Tough shit. If Pacquiao had been able to come back after a devastating loss before then it shouldn't be an excuse for Cotto. He had the belt and there was only one way to defend it and he failed. period.
@southstaronline: nobody listen to this guy. real BOXING fans need to give credit to Pac for his fight against Cotto who was the #1 or #2 WW(depending on how u look at it) and he whooped him.
maybe no credit for Hatton and DLH but if you are goig to discredit the Cotto win then you lose all credibility
Believe me, my opinion is within good logical reason. I do not discredit Pacquiao's performance. He executed the gameplan to a T. However he out-fought a man many believed to have been beyond his best, with question marks looming over his head, as to wether or not the Cotto of old could ever re-emerge.
He lost his last fight against Clottey, let's be real. He was targeted by Roach for being week and having exercisable flaws. I have plenty evidence to prove my point dude. 1/2
Ranking in this case doesn't really play a factor. I recall a certain Sugar Shane Mosley whom was more than willing to take whatever money and fight Pacquiao at 140lbs, 5lbs lower than the catch-weight bout against Cotto. He refused to defend his 140lbs title against a 38 year old SSM who is accustom to fighting at 147-154 for 10 years. It's been 10 years since he fought that low and that was at 135lbs, Pac wanted none of SSM at 140-147.
Ya they chose Cotto for the WBO title - THE GUY THAT BEAT MOSLEY. IF Pac would have fought and won against Mosley people are going to say he only fight old boxers. Cotto has a much better record than Mosley that reflects a young strong elite boxer just the knockdown ratio alone is impressive. The choice make sense to a lot of people except moron like you.
Why do you feel the necessity to get personal? I am far from a moron. Do you think I am OBLIVIOUS to the fact that the LOGICAL CHOICE OF FIGHT was against Cotto? Infact, that was EXACTLY my point.
Of course Cotto fight made more sense, regardless of Cotto's past accolades, he's washed up, mentally scarred. We've seen it in the past with MANY great fighters. A devastating defeat changes some fighters, especially those whom were originally undefeated.
They chose Cotto because of him being a weak opponent. Please read up on it YOURSELF, search for Freddie Roach talking about Cotto before his Clottey fight, before Pac deal was even thought about. FR wanted him right after the Clottey bout, because Cotto was clearly a weakened warrior.
It was then LATER added that it would be for a scammed WBO welterweight title at a CATCH-WEIGHT. Cotto was stupid enough to let a 147 belt be stripped from him at a 145 catch-weight...
@southstaronline Look I like Freddie too but I'm not about to give him hand jobs like you do. He say stuff like that hoping to get to Cotto's team - he also said on 24/7 that people tell Manny that Cotto will be an easy fight is just stupid - I guess his talking about you.
Manny and roach did pick cotto because he was a less risky fight than mosley style wise because has shown weakness..i still think Cotto can beat mosley and any other top WW but Mosley would give Pac a harder test based on his style and the fact that he can take punches better..and his dominating win over margarito scared them a little bit
@olopasaden yes that was one reason they picked him...but so did mosley and isaac hlatswayo...Isaac didnt have any name recognition and they didnt want mosley for some reason even tough he was willing to drop to 143
Score every round of the Cottto Clottey fight and you wil have Cotto ahead..giving Clottey all the close rounds i only had it as a draw at best...if you watch the fight without scoring on the other hand you will think Clottey won..i thought the same thing on fight night until i rewatched it and scored
i don't believe that pacman vs. mayweather will be a great fight... for all we know gayweather is not a warrior like cotto who will go head on w/ the pacman. as i can predict gayweather is just going to run and run and counter w/c is overly boring :-)
That fight must get signed fast. Pacquiao is going to run for congressman in the Phiippines summer of 2010. If he wins, he can't just leave to train for boxing because he has a responsibility as a congressman.
mosley has a scheduled fight now against berto on jan 30. mosley is now officially not an option for pacquiao because manny's plan is to fight in march. some are saying they should fight in may because of the world cup but philippine elections will occur by then
anyway...cotto did also a great fight and we saw he trained bone hard. cotto got a good heart and is a true fighter. much respect to this powerful boxing sympathic person. and congratulations to manny, he did a great job! we saw a big fight! thx-a-lot!
they said JAB defeats speed .. that's also they use on MOSLEY .. vernon .. winky and cotto uses that to shane ... but .. of course manny is given he will defeat you with his own style
zendo09 1 year ago
Great video man keep up the great work!! 5 star all the way!!! just ignore those foulmouth fans thats when you know they lost the arguement!!
neilcc7 2 years ago
this guy is for real... salute!!!
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jason12583 2 years ago
you still dont know what your talking about. shut the fuck up!
ramonsbar11 2 years ago
Great offense beats great defense...manny wins in 8
georgew35 2 years ago
instead of 50/50 make it 60/40 whoever win get the 60% fair enough.
Rezzmee 2 years ago
great idea... puts even more motiviation for mayweather on a victory maybe hell make it a little entertaining lol
obtuse9 2 years ago
Floyd knows pacman is his biggest obstacles to get to the P4P king...he has no guts to fight him....just pure trash talking and taunting.....sign the contarct 50/50 floyd....quit whining like your dad..
MRtoso36 2 years ago 9
Does anybody know how much money floyd got against baldomir???? because he turned down margarito for 8 million before that.. a floyd fan was arguing with me that floyd got 12 million against baldomir. we all know a fight against baldomir isn't worth 12million. absolute bullshit of course.. how much did floyd really get from that fight?? couldn't find any articles that say how much floyd really got from that bout.
jobz199 2 years ago
it was a lie,pbf would have gotten more if he fought margarito,i think floyd himself started that rumor hahhaha.
1sun3star 2 years ago
Floyd Mayweather returned to boxing SPECIFICALLY for Manny Pacquiao, so the fight will happen. Those who think that Floyd is ducking Manny are delusional. Floyd retired to avoid the LEGITIMATE WELTERS at the time (Margarito, Cotto, Williams, Mosley, Clottey, etc.). Mayweather would NEVER, and I mean NEVER, take a fight with Mosley. Pacquiao is smaller with shorter reach, so he would have to take risks the whole fight against a masterful counterpuncher like Mayweather.
AScentOfPhoenix 2 years ago
what up boy!!
grindshine 2 years ago
i know where manny gets his power from. he eats "balut" 1 hr prior to his fights. shhhh... i'm not suppose to tell anyone. it's a secret
gerryboy101 2 years ago 2
Floyd Mayweather has no chance with Manny Paquiao unless he runs around the ring like a scared dog. Mayweather only looked good against Marquez because Marquez is a counter puncher. Marquez is 37 years old and he is not a pound for pound fighter. When Mayweather fought Oscar Dela Hoya it was a split decision. Dela hoya was trained by Freddie Roach and he almost won. Manny Paquiao will throw 100 punches for 12 rounds
GURUBoxing 2 years ago 5
@GURUBoxing
marquez was not a p4p ranked fighter when he fought floyd? What crack you smoking? The man handed pac 2 losses anyway. punch output doesnt mean squat if you cant land fool. simple boxing knowledge.
boxersbeatbrawlers 1 year ago
@GURUBoxing from round 1 to round 12 if he didnt KO mayweather.. Total punches he will throw is 1100
pnoyrock76 8 months ago
Read your world history book.
The greatest conqueror of all time was from Asia, he was Gengkhis Khan.
Pacquiao is Gengkhis Khan in boxing
jerrick7788 2 years ago
Next time do not bet against Pacman.
Enter The Pacman's Dragon!!!
Jeet Kune Doe---- that's his hobby!!!
Robinhood0328 2 years ago
Let this fight happen floyd vs manny
officeprime 2 years ago
u look like a heavier Shia Lebouf dude. lol!
mcarino98 2 years ago
Pac vs Mayweather will be bigger than any fight to date! I CAN"T WAIT!!!!!
Put the pride aside for a fight Floyd and take a 50/50 split, then it will happen!
PacMan4prez 2 years ago
Do not predict then next time!!! What is your prediction again? I'll go again with the Pacman!!! Honestly, MW jr will be the easier fighter to beat Pacman. I'm 100% sure as Roach said. Manny would really likes to kick that bitch, big mouth and cocky gayweather!!!
Pacquaio vs MW jr
Humble vs Cocky
Silent vs Big mouth
Speed vs Speed
Power vs Speed
Robinhood0328 2 years ago
i dont think arum is ganna aim for mosley. he already has a fight comin up with berto. but i dont think manny should fight him tho cuz cotto already beaten him. mayweather vs pacquiao HAS to happen by spring 2010 or so
wheresdalove312 2 years ago
D'Pacman is just great!!!He is the best!!!
MegaPacquiao 2 years ago
oh surely PBF wont dock this one, simply bcoz manny is much much smaller than he is and manny brings a lot of cash for him... this willl happen, and arums gonna tilt the deal to his side, PBF will be pressured by the world and accept the offer.
sian1005 2 years ago
2:16 , he jizzed himself.
Kadochump 2 years ago
i think it will NOT happen as said before floyd trying to ROB Pacman... hell Pac is not stupid enough to take the 35-65 wouldnt he?
And after defeating Cotto, who is THE most popular guy now? who is THE Bigger guy now?
Who Beat Cotto in a CLEAN FIGHT? no freaking illegal WRAPS!!!
rold 2 years ago
People consider Mosley a huge threat. Sure he has punching power, but it's as if fans forget about the flaws in the Margarito fight and the Mayorga fight that he struggled badly, was losing and then won in the last second.
People just simply forget about what they've actually SEEN and simply follow what they're told. Hopefully my new article / video 'The Pacquiao Deception' will open the eyes to many boxing fans to the reality that's misshapen by the media.
southstaronline 2 years ago
See, even Obtuse9 is on the bandwagon that Blood is talking about. The media has skewed the perception of so many fans, they're actually LISTENING to what ESPN / HBO are telling them to believe. Damn, it's a pretty sad affair.
You only speak of Mayweather allegedly ducking and dodging... Manny will never, unlike Floyd, say he wants the fight, not once, he ALWAYS palms it off to Arum (who we know cannot deal with floyd). Pac will wait for Mosley, he only wants weak opponents, just like Floyd.
southstaronline 2 years ago
weak opponents?
excuses again....
karleeto19 2 years ago
Weak opponents, fact. Name one of these guys that was strong and dangerous against Manny:
Oscar De La Hoya
Ricky Hatton
Miguel Cotto
Please, go on, please let me know who out of those 3 you feel was solid opposition. You'd be LYING to yourself and me, to name ANY of them if you are a true boxing fan. Not Manny fan, BOXING fan.
southstaronline 2 years ago
cotto is a strong boxer wtf are u talking about
pengodapenguin 2 years ago
your already lying to yourself saying that those fighters were weak :S
if they are weak
then your boy floyd also fought them two weak fighters... minus cotto
please go on with your bullshit and keep making pointless excuses
karleeto19 2 years ago
My boy Floyd? What the fuck... lol
Floyd goes for weak fighters too.
My whole fuckin' point is that the media portray fighters like Floyd as the bad guy, the guy duckin' everyone, YET... Pacquiao is doing the EXACT, IDENTICAL same thing and NOBODY is seeing it, even though it's fuckin' OBVIOUS!
Why would Floyd or Manny take any truly difficult fights BEFORE they fight eachother? There's no logical point is there?
Both Floyd and Manny are taking easy fights until THEY clash.
southstaronline 2 years ago
i understand your point.
but do you think miguel cotto was an easy fight?
i doubt that it was an easy fight.
karleeto19 2 years ago
Thanks man.
I always forsaw it as e very easy fight, as did Gambeino and many other boxing enthusiasts that looked past the media and looked at the fighters directly.
Many fight fans, with a logical, unbiased perception, knew the fight would be easy for Pac, which it was...
Here's the second prediction video:
/watch?v=wXqpsIt2PEY
southstaronline 2 years ago
@southstaronline Did you watch how Pacquiao was badly beaten by Morales. Devastating. He came back strong so I don't see why Cotto should have been any different. So your logic of: "A devastating defeat changes some fighters, especially those whom were originally undefeated." is spot on. It actually goes two ways. Either you come back weak or come back strong. It all depends on how the fighter reconditions themselves. If you say that Cotto was ill prepared then--tough shit.
irangejuice 2 years ago
What do you mean you don't see why Cotto should have been any different? We're all individuals, with individual personalities.
Pacquiao had already suffered KO defeats in his past, so he could better handle defeat at this stage of his career. Cotto couldn't, even against a C class fighter in Michael Jennings he struggled to adjust himself to the ring. He could've jumped on Jennings and taken him out in the first round, it was that one sided.
I'll prepared, no. Simply psychologically scarred.
southstaronline 2 years ago
@southstaronline cont'd from below. Tough shit. If Pacquiao had been able to come back after a devastating loss before then it shouldn't be an excuse for Cotto. He had the belt and there was only one way to defend it and he failed. period.
As for Mayweather demanding 65/35? Ha!
irangejuice 2 years ago
@southstaronline: nobody listen to this guy. real BOXING fans need to give credit to Pac for his fight against Cotto who was the #1 or #2 WW(depending on how u look at it) and he whooped him.
maybe no credit for Hatton and DLH but if you are goig to discredit the Cotto win then you lose all credibility
briggs1233 2 years ago
Believe me, my opinion is within good logical reason. I do not discredit Pacquiao's performance. He executed the gameplan to a T. However he out-fought a man many believed to have been beyond his best, with question marks looming over his head, as to wether or not the Cotto of old could ever re-emerge.
He lost his last fight against Clottey, let's be real. He was targeted by Roach for being week and having exercisable flaws. I have plenty evidence to prove my point dude. 1/2
southstaronline 2 years ago
Ranking in this case doesn't really play a factor. I recall a certain Sugar Shane Mosley whom was more than willing to take whatever money and fight Pacquiao at 140lbs, 5lbs lower than the catch-weight bout against Cotto. He refused to defend his 140lbs title against a 38 year old SSM who is accustom to fighting at 147-154 for 10 years. It's been 10 years since he fought that low and that was at 135lbs, Pac wanted none of SSM at 140-147.
They chose Cotto for a reason and not just money.
southstaronline 2 years ago
Ya they chose Cotto for the WBO title - THE GUY THAT BEAT MOSLEY. IF Pac would have fought and won against Mosley people are going to say he only fight old boxers. Cotto has a much better record than Mosley that reflects a young strong elite boxer just the knockdown ratio alone is impressive. The choice make sense to a lot of people except moron like you.
PepperShkr 2 years ago
Why do you feel the necessity to get personal? I am far from a moron. Do you think I am OBLIVIOUS to the fact that the LOGICAL CHOICE OF FIGHT was against Cotto? Infact, that was EXACTLY my point.
Of course Cotto fight made more sense, regardless of Cotto's past accolades, he's washed up, mentally scarred. We've seen it in the past with MANY great fighters. A devastating defeat changes some fighters, especially those whom were originally undefeated.
southstaronline 2 years ago
They chose Cotto because of him being a weak opponent. Please read up on it YOURSELF, search for Freddie Roach talking about Cotto before his Clottey fight, before Pac deal was even thought about. FR wanted him right after the Clottey bout, because Cotto was clearly a weakened warrior.
It was then LATER added that it would be for a scammed WBO welterweight title at a CATCH-WEIGHT. Cotto was stupid enough to let a 147 belt be stripped from him at a 145 catch-weight...
southstaronline 2 years ago
@southstaronline Look I like Freddie too but I'm not about to give him hand jobs like you do. He say stuff like that hoping to get to Cotto's team - he also said on 24/7 that people tell Manny that Cotto will be an easy fight is just stupid - I guess his talking about you.
PepperShkr 2 years ago
Manny and roach did pick cotto because he was a less risky fight than mosley style wise because has shown weakness..i still think Cotto can beat mosley and any other top WW but Mosley would give Pac a harder test based on his style and the fact that he can take punches better..and his dominating win over margarito scared them a little bit
briggs1233 2 years ago
@briggs1233 Manny and Roach picked Cotto because he holds the title.
olopasaden 2 years ago
@olopasaden yes that was one reason they picked him...but so did mosley and isaac hlatswayo...Isaac didnt have any name recognition and they didnt want mosley for some reason even tough he was willing to drop to 143
briggs1233 2 years ago
Score every round of the Cottto Clottey fight and you wil have Cotto ahead..giving Clottey all the close rounds i only had it as a draw at best...if you watch the fight without scoring on the other hand you will think Clottey won..i thought the same thing on fight night until i rewatched it and scored
briggs1233 2 years ago
you're correct!
k9bandit4life 2 years ago
y u hatin... another mayweather fan??
boknoy2 2 years ago
i don't believe that pacman vs. mayweather will be a great fight... for all we know gayweather is not a warrior like cotto who will go head on w/ the pacman. as i can predict gayweather is just going to run and run and counter w/c is overly boring :-)
potpot95 2 years ago
its ok for pacman not to fight mayweather, mayweather will not going to win after all.
pacman already proved his greatness as a boxer and he proved that his the best p4p ever in boxing history-- as of now.
no 1 will and no cant take his throne as p4p king.
mark628666 2 years ago
its ok for pacman not to fight mayweather hes not going to win after all.
pacman already proved his greatness by taking down his oppenent 1 by 1, thats no 1 can take his throne as p4p king.
mark628666 2 years ago
i don't think pacman should fight mosley since cotto beat mosley.
there's only 1 test left for pacman and that's mayweather
yanina143 2 years ago
does anybody know what happened to talkboxing? he didn't get his account suspended, did he?
siops 2 years ago
Hey im Floyd Mayweather, thanks for adressing me in your video, no i wont chase Pacquiao...all roads lead to Floyd Mayweather.
Dude, as if he's watching your video, but i watched it and liked it.
Your right, they both have the blueprint for fighting each other, and Floyd cant duck this one or his legacy will be ruined.
TigonOrLiger 2 years ago
yup but who won on the cotto mosley fight?
ctotoye2 2 years ago
Well said!
BEDA02 2 years ago
That fight must get signed fast. Pacquiao is going to run for congressman in the Phiippines summer of 2010. If he wins, he can't just leave to train for boxing because he has a responsibility as a congressman.
keytrixz 2 years ago
the hell with that, he's not gonna win in congress, wala xang alam don
boybiboy21 2 years ago
hes gonna punch the bills.... really hard.
Kadochump 2 years ago
you should do more vids dude ur good
tomamami48 2 years ago
mosley has a scheduled fight now against berto on jan 30. mosley is now officially not an option for pacquiao because manny's plan is to fight in march. some are saying they should fight in may because of the world cup but philippine elections will occur by then
bareg 2 years ago
its youtube.... the trashtalking center of the internet... seriously people need to chill... pacquiao vs mayweather see you in 2010
ImpulseJun 2 years ago
anyway...cotto did also a great fight and we saw he trained bone hard. cotto got a good heart and is a true fighter. much respect to this powerful boxing sympathic person. and congratulations to manny, he did a great job! we saw a big fight! thx-a-lot!
icyhott187 2 years ago