Can anyone tell me what time and what part Mahler's amazing 9 note chord is in? It is pierced by a trumpet, an extremely powerful moment in music in general
@goofyreligion3 ...You said it brother. At a London performance Pierre Boulez stationed a live cow complete with bells at the side of the stage, so it seems ...wonder whether he got the desired effect? We once had a Mahler Society in Kuala Lumpur and even invited Benjamin Zander, who was down to conduct the Mahler Ninth with the Malaysian Philharmoniker, to give us a little talk. It was absolutely rewarding. Long live the immortal music of Mahler!
It is definitely in D, but at that time Vienna Phil was tuning to A=445 which is why this recording sounds a bit sharpish to those who have perfect pitch and are used to the standard American A=440. These days most of the world's leading orchestras tune above 440 but below 445.
Calling Mahler "elevator music" is simply ignorant.
Neongrapes, me thinks you are aurally-challenged -- or deaf, perhaps? -- to denigrate Mahler's music as elevator music. I have yet, in my travels the world over, to encounter at the airports, hotels etc. the music of this sublime composer emanating from the puny speakers at these places. Yes, muzak aplenty from Clayderman and such, but never once this transcendental music of Mahler. sd goh (malaysia)
Having performed under Bernstein's baton, I can share that it is often a cue that a section is remarkably personal to him when the baton becomes subordinated and both hands become instrumental in the engagement and communication with the orchestration. This movement is quite instrumental in the artistic expression and connection Bernstein shares with Mahler (as he also does substantially in Mahler's 6th, finale). 100 years later, and we've yet to fully comprehend what was uncovered here.
@Neongrapes nope...its awesome orchestral music, you may not like it but calling it that is a bit far. like especially the 8th and 5th you're going to call it elevator music? please...and if you dont like it then why were you here watching it?
Bernstein can communicate that special thing that makes Mahler, the transition from one mood to another in a small amount of time, speeding up and slowing down, like life, amazing symphony and conductor and orchestra.
@fcmilsweeper9 Many composers believe that a certain key has a certain sound/emotion/timbre so they may choose a key for its characteristics to match the mood of the piece. Other times composers hear the melody in their head in a certain key and they won't change it when writing it down. Some others, I don't know. They probably just do it at random
There is no way to say who does the "best Mahler". Bernstein "romanticises" the 9th, especially the Adante comodo, other conducters underline it's violence and hardness as Mahler's "first opus of New Music". Interesting to compare Bernstein with Kurt Masur or Boulez related to this question.
That must be obnoxious for percussion instruments that will be out of tune and timpanists having to change everything theyve ever known to fit to that.
@Tokkemon i just listen to these symphonies because i just like the purity...m an illetrate about music.... but you guys seem like the masters....my god!! bravo man for such a good knowledge.
@Tokkemon I indeed also hear E flat, but I also hear that here on youtube occasionally, for example in some organ pieces of Bach. For the frequency you multiply by 2^(1/12) so 466 Hz.
This is indeed sublime music. Those who dissent may immediately have their hearing checked.
StevenThePhilosopher 6 days ago
My first time listening to this piece ever. The first of many.
travismc93 2 weeks ago
Can anyone tell me what time and what part Mahler's amazing 9 note chord is in? It is pierced by a trumpet, an extremely powerful moment in music in general
hoockaloo 2 weeks ago
What year's this recording from?
tubaphilip 2 weeks ago in playlist Mahler Symphony 9 - L.Bernstein DVD DG
Completely new soundcolours, coming closer to atonality in some points.... Unbelievable, very mature piece of work....
8JustGoodMusic8 4 months ago
esplode l'inquietudine 2:55
TheCrusius 4 months ago
@goofyreligion3 ...You said it brother. At a London performance Pierre Boulez stationed a live cow complete with bells at the side of the stage, so it seems ...wonder whether he got the desired effect? We once had a Mahler Society in Kuala Lumpur and even invited Benjamin Zander, who was down to conduct the Mahler Ninth with the Malaysian Philharmoniker, to give us a little talk. It was absolutely rewarding. Long live the immortal music of Mahler!
301250 5 months ago
This really is amazing. Imo not my favorite mahler symphony (6th is my personal favorite) but still this is very good.
musicmann008 6 months ago
It is definitely in D, but at that time Vienna Phil was tuning to A=445 which is why this recording sounds a bit sharpish to those who have perfect pitch and are used to the standard American A=440. These days most of the world's leading orchestras tune above 440 but below 445.
Calling Mahler "elevator music" is simply ignorant.
kash2mark 6 months ago 2
Neongrapes, me thinks you are aurally-challenged -- or deaf, perhaps? -- to denigrate Mahler's music as elevator music. I have yet, in my travels the world over, to encounter at the airports, hotels etc. the music of this sublime composer emanating from the puny speakers at these places. Yes, muzak aplenty from Clayderman and such, but never once this transcendental music of Mahler. sd goh (malaysia)
301250 7 months ago 6
vienna philharmonic ...in berlin evidently :)
therealcubiksrube 8 months ago
@jllxndrwlly its just a lot of European orchestras like rotary valved trumpets...not sure why
steven4570 8 months ago
Why are there six horns? SSO played it with 5, but isnt it score for 4?
facialnoob 9 months ago
Having performed under Bernstein's baton, I can share that it is often a cue that a section is remarkably personal to him when the baton becomes subordinated and both hands become instrumental in the engagement and communication with the orchestration. This movement is quite instrumental in the artistic expression and connection Bernstein shares with Mahler (as he also does substantially in Mahler's 6th, finale). 100 years later, and we've yet to fully comprehend what was uncovered here.
thethirdparasite 10 months ago
MAHLER=SYMPHONIC ELEVATOR MUSIC
Neongrapes 10 months ago
@Neongrapes ?????????? i dont think so
steven4570 8 months ago
@steven4570 Well, are you sure that you're even thinking?
Neongrapes 8 months ago
@Neongrapes Mahler symphonies are not elevator music...i don't even know how you could even think that
steven4570 8 months ago
@steven4570 You know you're right, Gustav is probably more like escalator or perhaps even laundromat music.
Neongrapes 8 months ago
@Neongrapes nope...its awesome orchestral music, you may not like it but calling it that is a bit far. like especially the 8th and 5th you're going to call it elevator music? please...and if you dont like it then why were you here watching it?
steven4570 8 months ago
I am just looking at how HANDSOME this guy conducting is!
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lovingee1 11 months ago
@lovingee1 He's dead.
facialnoob 9 months ago
I am just looking at how HANDSOME this guy conducting is!
lovingee1 11 months ago
i like how the assistant timpanist just reaches over to adjust the kettle at 7:39. good call since it was quite out of tune.
tzhuff 1 year ago 2
Mahler's intellectual emotionalism
pointreyes6 1 year ago
My God. What I love most about this first movement is no matter what happens in this, Mahler always goes back to the pain.
murphy456 1 year ago
It's Eb Major, not D...
animumaurarium 1 year ago
Bernstein can communicate that special thing that makes Mahler, the transition from one mood to another in a small amount of time, speeding up and slowing down, like life, amazing symphony and conductor and orchestra.
trevjr 1 year ago 2
A number of pieces make me cry at the end, but this is the only one that I can think of that makes me cry at the beginning.
bassclefstef 1 year ago 31
@bassclefstef The second movement of Dvorak's 9th always made my mom cry when she was younger.
thinkreddie 1 year ago
this music is too much, Mahler, so direct.
pointreyes6 1 year ago
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what kind of trumpet is at 4:14?
chrispharis1 1 year ago
what kind of trupmet is at 4:14?
chrispharis1 1 year ago
I love the opening of this symphony
FranzLisztian 1 year ago
weiner philharmonic lulz
Kalhari 1 year ago
saw it on TV in Lucerne nice if u know about hes sad life so fking passion in this music
kkk7hh 1 year ago
I know about scales chords theory etc, but just wondering....did these composers just pick a random note for a key?
fcmilsweeper9 1 year ago
@fcmilsweeper9 Many composers believe that a certain key has a certain sound/emotion/timbre so they may choose a key for its characteristics to match the mood of the piece. Other times composers hear the melody in their head in a certain key and they won't change it when writing it down. Some others, I don't know. They probably just do it at random
sushidudeiscool 1 year ago
in the opera house of my city musicians play for musicians only
FlightOverRio 1 year ago
9:20 the lady with the binoculars - in the front row!
eek4rus 1 year ago
A leitura no mais profundo da alma,surge num fio de luz e abre caminho rumo as estrelas carentes de melodia humana.
ZemArte 1 year ago
when was this recorded?
ploplo8484 1 year ago
hi i was just wondering the date of this performance?
ploplo8484 1 year ago
Oh so beautiful.
JKB76 1 year ago
4:07 is the happiest moment in my life so far...
Hamish5 1 year ago
this should go viral.... imagine that.
immense thanks tokkemon
Hexachloraphine 1 year ago
Best symphony ever written.
Fact.
Morfee 1 year ago
@Morfee fiction
eek4rus 1 year ago
@eek4rus Charles Dickens
Morfee 1 year ago
There is no way to say who does the "best Mahler". Bernstein "romanticises" the 9th, especially the Adante comodo, other conducters underline it's violence and hardness as Mahler's "first opus of New Music". Interesting to compare Bernstein with Kurt Masur or Boulez related to this question.
DeutschlandRocks 1 year ago
at 7:37 the timpani's are horribly off pitch
Sutiea 2 years ago
@Sutiea at that moment someone attempted to change the pitch of the timpani. did you see it?
lordlors 2 years ago 3
Is de most beautiful mahler's symphony
demirandas 2 years ago
I think my perfect pitch is still working, but I heard Eb Major instead of D.
ClassicHolic 2 years ago
Could it be the German tuning? I know Vienna uses a much higher tuning than America's 440. I think its either 442 or 446, can't remember.
Tokkemon 2 years ago 18
@Tokkemon
At the time of the recording, Vienna used 442
TFreckle 2 years ago
@Tokkemon
That must be obnoxious for percussion instruments that will be out of tune and timpanists having to change everything theyve ever known to fit to that.
fcmilsweeper9 1 year ago
@Tokkemon They tune to 450. Nobody altered the speed of this video.
Invisus944 1 year ago
@Tokkemon
usually it's 443, but the Berlin Philharmonic for instance sometimes even use 445 as far as I know..
richter91 1 year ago
@Tokkemon
The tunig for A is right in the middle of you guesses.
It's 443 Hz, I looked it up on Wikipedia.
mzoli1222 1 year ago
@Tokkemon Its 443.
ranwnye 10 months ago
@Tokkemon 6 hz wont make enough difference to be perceived in pitch change..... this is not a much higher tunning lol!
I hear D, btw !
pbpeex 9 months ago
@Tokkemon oh, and tanks for the vid!
pbpeex 9 months ago
@Tokkemon that would make it sharper rather than flatter...
venskus2009 9 months ago
@Tokkemon oh sorry you could be correct. i looked at it backwards :P
venskus2009 9 months ago
@Tokkemon but that would still be closer to D, and plus 2 Hz is scientifically undetectable, even to me, and i have perfect pitch
hbmp88 9 months ago
Definitely in D major at the beginning!
kameyer3386 8 months ago
@Tokkemon definitely not 446. 442
scubasteve00110011 7 months ago
@Tokkemon I think in germany they use 444, in italy we use 442
zellandis 5 months ago
@Tokkemon i just listen to these symphonies because i just like the purity...m an illetrate about music.... but you guys seem like the masters....my god!! bravo man for such a good knowledge.
rishabhmail125 2 months ago
@Tokkemon The VPO uses A443.
42ndbestnameever 2 months ago
@Tokkemon I indeed also hear E flat, but I also hear that here on youtube occasionally, for example in some organ pieces of Bach. For the frequency you multiply by 2^(1/12) so 466 Hz.
untl01 1 month ago
@ClassicHolic It is rather sharper than you might expect, but certainly sounds like D to me, and matches up on a piano.
Haeronthegreat 2 years ago
@ClassicHolic I hear D major actually...
stevtomato 1 year ago
@ClassicHolic I agree that it sounds kind of sharp. I'm impressed by your perfect pitch though, I didn't notice until I saw your comment :-)
laurentius88 1 year ago
@ClassicHolic It's high, but it's definitely D.
dbpsoccer121 1 year ago
@ClassicHolic It's sharp, but it's definitely D
dbpsoccer121 1 year ago
@ClassicHolic actually now that i read this I pressed a played a D on my tuner and it is in D not Eb.
phantomfn8 1 year ago
@ClassicHolic
i think my douche bag detector is still working, and i'm pretty sure you are one.
ap1027 10 months ago 2
Fantastic quality. Thanks a lot for the upload.
Lesolin 2 years ago
This is the Holy Grail of Bernstein Mahler films. And the quality is off the charts. I'm in heaven. Thank you.
MikeDrewYT 2 years ago 25