How can any christian say the bible doesn't contradict itself. You can't even trust a christian to be honest to themselves. Keep the religious away from children, they're a bad influence.
@coltsrule5150 The discipline of biblical criticism has been around since the 17th century and never arrived at these amazing conclusions. Despite using scholarly Methods as Textual , Source & Form criticism, Redaction , Canonical, Rhetorical criticism, historical , Psychological &, Socio-scientific & Postmodernist criticism & Feminist exegesis, they seem to have MISSED these points! They should either- 1/ turn academia upside down with your amazing revelations or- 2/ STOP ''RESEARCHING ''ON YT
Isn't it funny how when PZ Meyers is explaining the intricacies of radiometric dating that the big man is nodding his head like he understands but he probably is just waiting for a chance to throw out more bullshit. You get the feeling that if he was sincere as a listener that he may actually learn something. Ignorant fool indeed. Its okay to disagree but only if you understand what you are disagreeing with otherwise the reasonable position is indifference. LMAO!
When you look at the big christian guy... Don't you just get the feeling that, If stupid had a form... it would take this mans form! He just looks like a farm animal!
The claims that the number of natural disasters has increased is baseless, the US geological survey has not noted a single trend in the number of natural disasters. The argument could simply be due to the fact that with modern communications, we are more aware of disasters. More likely it is just some crap a creationist made up because they want to believe the world will end.
@ShouldersofGiants100 adding on to that, human societies or groups have started building their houses and invading places whr they dont belong. i live in mountains, india. we have recently heard of ppl dying land slides. lots n lots of em and the reason is they build their houses in available land space, without doin their research. another example, brisbane australian, whr ppl built their houses in flood zones n result? u might have heard bout floods n destruction in aus few months back.
@darbone the sad part is that people like that kid are going to be brainwashed and traumatized by this squalor for the rest of their life unless they manage to deny their friends and family and everything they have been taught since they were young
@LabyrinthOfDream I know what you mean, but that kid looked like he was just parroting his parents. Watch him turn 20 and go to college, that might shake it out of him. I walk through life, in Austin TX, just assuming everyone is an Atheist. I act like that is normal and people with wacko beliefs are weird, you know, reality. I think the ridiculous needs to be ridiculed, so I never hold back. Just look at these creationist and shout, DINOSAUR!
@darbone I sure hope so. I grew up in one of these cults never quite believing it but still a victim of the mindset they teach. even though i know better now, i still catch myself falling into that gap of "dont question just believe" from time to time. Its horrible and humiliating knowing that i was brainwashed and billions others are having the same done to them every day. Religion stunts the logic and critical thinking processes of the brain just like cutting a piece out with a knife.
Respond to this video... but I do know what you struggle with. indoctrination is difficult. I tell people I am only a racist deep down where it was planted in my childhood, but I try not to act on those feelings even though I know they are there. It is difficult to recover from childhood. Keep struggling, and never just believe. No one knows any more than you do. You are a brilliant amazing creature of the Universe. The smartest thing anyone can ever say is "I don't know".
in 1987 astronomers saw a star in the outskirts of the Tarantula Nebula go nova. The star was over 160,000 light-years away, meaning that it actually went nova over 160,000 years ago. If God had actually created the world 6,000 years ago, but made it look older (by creating the photons for all the stars in the sky in mid-journy,) then that means he created the entire story of this star's existence and destruction in the photons traveling to earth, despite the star never having actually existed.
Fuck man, how come these people aren't EMBARRASSED? "God can make the earth look as old as he wants!" "The book said it, so it's true, and it's true because the book said it! I don't need proof!" Are you serious? You should be ashamed of yourself for believing such childish garbage!
I found it VERY interesting that at 5:37 when PZ started to ask specific questions about the bible the gum chewing, laid back, "mellow" christian, FACED off with PZ and refused to answer anything that was said. This is why, growing up an atheist, I was scared of Christians: They are violently adversarial when questioned, yet claim to be picked on at the same time. I would like to hear the xian explain why Comfort deleted chapters in Origin of the book he passed out...cowardice I claim.
Calling someone an ignorant fool in the context that he was using it in wasn't entirely an insult. Ignorance = Uninformed, and fool just means he believes in foolish things. Aka ignorant fool.
''No, he's allowing us to see how, I mean the wonder and the beauty of the Earth and to allow a star, I mean you can't just create time of from a star from the light of a star to reach us like that''. Haha!
@Dlaj2011 You've proven my point. Also, did I ever claim Christianity once in my comment? No. I didn't. Go back to being 16 somewhere else you bloody child. *Disclaimer, I don't give a fuck if you're 20 either, you're still a child.*
I'm all for free speech, and knowledge and whatnot, but really, whoever the bloody hell this guy thinks he is, he's nobody to treat the gum chewing guy like he does. I'm seriously sick and tired of people in our community, or vica-versa, treating Christians like they're three year olds because of their faith. Seriously.
@ItsJagiello how he treated him? dude he treated him very fairly, considering 908% of the guys statements were "why" when hes the one believing in the hocus pocus.
Seriously think about how badly a group of atheists would be treated if they showed up outside a church on a sunday and protested the absurdities and corruption of youth that goes on inside
@ItsJagiello He was treating the guy like a three year old because he was acting like a three year old. He's discussing biology with a biologist while chewing gum and repeating apologetics. The dumb apologetics. Lets not forget, he's protesting a skeptic meeting, HE'S COMING TO THEM.
Here's science: Form a hypothesis (or a null hypothesis) -> test said position -> analyse results ->you win if hypothesis is true or not because you've advanced knowledge. It's very simple. Here's what religions do: Say what's true -> look for support -> ignore anything which does not support you -> You fail, whether it is true or not because you didn't do anything except get lucky or not. You may as well not have been there.
13:25 - 13:40 truly exposes the ignorance of this bible thumper, who obviously knows nothing about geology. Lava consists of molten rock, which is regularly extruded to the surface due to earth's interior pressures. That rock is certainly NOT "4 hours old". This dumbass speaks as if lava is somehow "intelligently designed" by volcanoes at the moment of eruption, but I guess one shouldn't be surprised that a creatard would hold such a belief.
The non-PZ guy is a very good debater. He gets right to the point, doesn't go for the usual biting one liner, and knows his Bible very well- I'd like to see more of him engaged in Socratic debates!
Yeah, I've seen it used many times and it's easy to preempt. However, it just seemed that PZ set himself up for it, but luckily the guy wasn't intelligent enough to push the issue.
@Slowens12 Yeah, seems PZ was using a different definition of the word "objective" than typically used in philosophy. At the same time, theologians get carried away with relativism by, as this guy did, trying to apply it to a single person or, after PZ tried to correct him, to a large group of people instead of to the entire human species. And they do it to create a false dichotomy, which I am sure you are well aware.
@jcgadfly I grew up in a liberal Catholic family. Even when I considered myself a Catholic, I came to the same conclusion. It's worse with Protestants, with their overarching belief of sola fide- salvation by grace. This impression has grown stronger and stronger over the years- they're utterly relativist and post modern, except for when they want to persecute some outgroup.
@spruntfemalespray How does God kill 9 million kids a year? And I will definitely not stay away from kids when it comes to speaking about Jesus Christ They need to know the Truth about Jesus. You are free to think what you want, but your words will not make me stop doing what I do. Thank you...
@MrFunBusiness You heard it here, folks: this is one christian that won't stay away from kids. I like to imagine you screaming this as the cops drag you away from a playground as you clutch a bible in one hand and a a sign that reads "FREE CANDY AND BIBLE STUDY IN MY VAN" in the other.
@KomradePosey To put words in my mouth shows your level of maturity. I may speak to kids about Jesus Christ, the Savior of the world, but I don't share the same sick mind you do. After your comment I think it is you who needs to stay away from kids. I don't really blame you though for your thoughts based on stories about people who do those very things. Sin brings about evil, that is for sure. Please read the Bible and ask God to show you His love.
@MrFunBusiness Hey, I didn't put any words in your mouth, I simply created a context for them to appear in!
For your information, I HAVE read the Bible and after seeing some of the horrific things that god supposedly did to the people that you claim he loves I want none of his "love."
@spruntfemalespray You may find this hard to believe, but there are millions of people with a "whole brain" who believe in Jesus Christ. Also, I will not keep my mouth shut in public, because of two reasons. One, it is my duty at a Christian to tell people of the love of Jesus Christ. Two, the 2nd amendment says I have the right to speak in public. I also go out many times a year and hand out Gospel tracts as well as speak to people about Jesus Christ, and I will continue to do so. :)
I love how that guy chewing gum thinks he has good points to make. He actually said he was having an intellectual discussion with PZ? Like they were on equal footing. Amazing.
The only reason people have ever dated the Gospels into the first-century is Church tradition.
Jesus is not mentioned by Philo, Justus, Josephus, Tacitus, Suetonius, Pliny the Younger, Pliny the Elder, Lucian, etc. These are our writers of the period, they should have at least had a passing mention of Jesus.
Also, Jesus is not mentioned once in the Talmud, which is impossible if he existed.
Jesus did not exist. Galilee at the time was inhabited entirely by Aramaic-speaking converts to Judaism. There were two Greek cities in the region, and thus no one knew Greek in Galilee EXCEPT those cities. Since the rest of the region was rural.
All of the Gospels are Second-century works of Greek writers, they were anonymous, as no names were attached
If you're Mark, and know of no other gospels, why would you write the name as "euangelion kata Markos" (according to Mark)
@AlessioDAlessandro For starters the Pharisees were not atheists. I'm glad you don't like to believe in silly ideas. Just like PZ Meyers said in an interview with Simmons..."Many of Darwin's ideas have been proved wrong and that is why we keep doing research." Well Mr. AlessioDAlessandro keep doing your research. Eventually you will come across the Truth. Hopefully before you die.
@MrFunBusiness The beauty and strength of science is that it adapts itself according to new information, it evolves (pun intended) in order to give the clearest picture of reality and how reality functions. This is why it trumps religions, as there isn't a single religion a live that hasn't tried to keep an old idea in the face of a new one, regardless of veracity or evidence.
The true tragedy is that when you die your last thoughts will be a farce, that you are going to Heaven.
@PhobicOne Atheism wears blinders and only sees what would be there if there wasn't a God. It wouldn't dare look at it from all sides and make a more educated decision. I hope that God changes your mind. The tragedy is that when you die you will have to bow before Jesus Christ as a former unbeliever and realize that He is real. I hope you put your faith in Him before your last breath. By your beiief when we both die we are dead. What does it matter what our last thoughts are?...right???
@AlessioDAlessandro Matthew 12:38-40 says, "Then some of the scribes and Pharisees answered Him, saying, 'Teacher, we want to see a sign from You.' But He answered and said to them, 'An eveil and adulterous generation craves for a sign; and yet no sign whatll be given to it but the sign of Jonah the prophet; for just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the sea monster, so shall the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.'"
@AlessioDAlessandro It just goes to show that being a distinguished professor and having a Ph.D doesn't mean anything. I read and listen to plenty of Ph.D's who say the exact opposite of what you are writing.
@MrFunBusiness apparently for you education is not that important, don't worry it is obvious that you are not educated, post your credentials for the irony and our entertainment
@bajorjor1 Using periods in your sentences shows you are somewhat educated. Since you didn't, I will take that as one uneducated person (you) telling an educated person...absolutely nothing!! hahaha Oh, and I am in the process of finishing by bachelors in business and then on to my masters. Have a nice day! :)
@AlessioDAlessandro I don't know who your scholars are, but let me give you an example of one of the authors who wrote their own book. In John 21:24 it says, "This is the disciple who bears witness of these things, and wrote these things; and we know that his witness is true." With that being said, it is also in the Scriptures that each of the Gospel writers knew Jesus.
@AlessioDAlessandro Thank you for proving my point about adults. Being an adult doesn't make you perfect. Now on to your second thought...If God gave us minds to use, then why wouldn't He want us to do research that only gives us more amazement of His creation. Without minds we wouldn't have the God's Word passed on from generation to generation. Without our minds we wouldn't be able to pass on to the next generations the greatness of our God.
@AlessioDAlessandro First, during the New Testament times the people spoke Greek and that is why they were written in Greek. Second, those "scholars" are wrong, they all met Jesus. Third, many disciples were ordinary men, but the ones who wrote the Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke and John) were not common men. Paul who wrote many of the Epistles also was not a common man but used to be a Pharissee among Pharissees, putting him at the top of his class. Peter however was a common fisherman.
@AlessioDAlessandro Yes, I actually do know that. Just to give you some insight, I have probably taken more classes on the Bible and other religions than you have taken college classes all together. I am very well aware of these arguments that have been going on before you and I were ever born. They will always be used by those who have not been changed by the power of God. As usual, God will continue to move forward and accomplish His will generation after generation after generation.
@AlessioDAlessandro Please do your research, because I too have physicists, biologist, scientists, and etc. I personally know a research scientist who was an atheist for 40 years of his life before he became a Christian after trying to disprove God existed. He now educates many people of the fallacies of evolution. Oh, and when you tell me to grow up and be an adult do you want me to be like Adolf Hitler, Charles Manson, Stalin, bin Laden, or some other adult that you have in mind?
@AlessioDAlessandro Now let me see, should I believe you who keeps saying I am an adult and should figure this stuff out, or Biblical scholars who have spent years and years researching the content of the New Testament and also the context in which it was written and have a ton to say about God being real. My proof doesn't rely on people. You don't need proof whent God has changed your heart. A blind man will never know green and you will never know God until He opens your eyes.
@AlessioDAlessandro The bible has been edited to fit different writing styles, but the message for each verse is the same. The New American Standard Bible (NASB) is a word for word meaning. Check your sources, because they are wrong
@AlessioDAlessandro You, too, I am assuming are an adult and I can't believe after all the scientific proof of intelligent design that you can't see the fallacy of evolution. And yes, I believe everything in the Bible from Genesis to Revelation. Tell me how Jesus Christ fulfilled so many prophecies made about Him in the Old Testament. The data has been run and the chances of even eight of those prophecies being fulfilled are 1 in 10 to the 17th power. 1 in 10 to the 10th power is impossible!
The greatest love story ever told is in the Bible. God who keeps showing people love even when they keep turning away from Him. God, who came down in the form of Jesus Christ and died for a people who hated Him. God, who is still with us today and winning our hearts back to Him. What a GREAT GOD!!!
The greatest love story ever told is in the Bible. God who keeps showing people love even when they keep turning away from Him. God, who came down in the form of Jesus Christ and died for a people who hated Him. God, who is still with us today and winning our hearts back to Him. What a GREAT GOD!!!
@NikkitHcify religious beliefs were here before you and will be after you. Get used to it. It still amazes me that people think God will go away and He still hasn't.
JT: Are you saying the absence of evidence is evidence of absence?" Yep, JT...That is what Christians are saying, along with the other 500 witnesses mentioned in the Bible.
When the best evidence someone has is the only evidence they have ever studied it doesn't do anygood to challenge their mind, but instead their heart.
@MrFunBusiness You're putting yourself in harms way, all this hope and promise on something that has hurt so many before, and will continue to destroy lives and families. If anyone is warning anyone, its me warning you, not the other way around.
I Know, because I've read the dogma and experienced all the hate that it brings with it.
Infant Circumcision takes CHOICE away from the individual. Its unethical by Any standard. Are there bits that you wouldn't mind people cutting off of you?
@MrFunBusiness I am not a biologist. I don't have the answers. If we were talking about macro-evolution and the big bang, that'd be fine, but we're not talking about that, we're talking about your idiot-box religion.
This gum chewing ignoramus and others like him truly disgrace the human species. If only he'd listen to PZ, he might actually learn something. Instead he spews creationist 'arguments', asks absurd questions and parades his ignorance.
@MrFunBusiness Belief is a weakness, It gives other people the opportunity to take advantage of you. You're wearing on your sleeve that you're an ignorant pawn waiting for the right scheme. Faith isn't a virtue, its a hole in your bullshit detector, and while I might call it a shame, others call it 'selection'.
A little Pulp fiction before I go.
"The truth is you're the weak. And I'm the tyranny of evil men. But I'm tryin, Ringo. I'm tryin' real hard to be the shepherd. "
@MrFunBusiness Let me show you a little scientific approach.
Here's how science works. Your god doesn't exist. You think he does? Show me supporting details. Your evidence does not support your claim, therefore until we have more supporting evidence, guess what? Your god doesn't exist.
Science doesn't care about your god damn feelings, and the fact that your 'god' does shouldn't make you hopeful, it should make you suspicious.
@IncendiarySolution I almost forgot to ask you..."Where is your evidence for the big bang and macro-evolution?" Until you can come up with something other than magic then maybe you should look at your "evidence" again and see its flaws. Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Life and no comes to the Father except through Him. I hope you come to see the truth about Jesus Christ and His love for this world.
@MrFunBusiness Third, you support a god that threatens others with eternal torture. By saying "god bless you" and "I hope you find the right way" You're sending signals that mean "If you don't, you'll be burned eternal."
Your god's blessing is a threat from your lips to my ears. Thats the only way to take it. I can't make that any more clear. If you know I don't believe in your cult, and we both understand your consequences for non-belief, You are issuing a Threat to me.
@IncendiarySolution If you're running down a path headed towards a cliff that will lead to your death and I jump out and say "STOP going that way or you're going to die," does that mean I am "Threatning" you? I guess we should all just stand by and watch people run to their death, because that makes sense...right? I'm not holding a gun to your head and saying believe or die, but I do know some people who do treat life and religion that way...VERY SAD. So once again, I pray God blesses you
@MrFunBusiness Second off, By now, you should understand what a troll is, even have a functional definition. A troll sets out to waste peoples time and get them enraged and/or trick them. If you can't pull that from the context clues, I don't know what else to tell you.
@MrFunBusiness I'm going to start off at the top because i'm radical like that. If you're going to ask me a question, about if your nonsense cult hurt me, ask me the god damn question instead of using it as a rhetorical. I'm a 23 year old circumcised, baptized and indoctrinated male that has been cut, drowned and is now recovering from the hate that your war god; Yahweh, Eloheim or Jahova is the center of. So if you don't think that Your belief does harm, think again.
@IncendiarySolution If you were drowned then how are you still writing me messages? And doesn't science show that circumcision can actually be a good thing to keep bacteria from building up around your manhood?
@MrFunBusiness Circumcision is mutilation... It should be a choice of a person, not someone else's, or if there's medical necessity. Do you condone female circumcision?
@IncendiarySolution Has God or even another false god ever hurt you? No, I didn't think so. That is because people create cults not God. The God of the Bible is the only God that says to believe in Jesus to make it to heaven. The God of the Bible is the only God who places everything on Jesus to get to heaven. All other religions and "cults" require you to get yourself to heaven. That makes you a god in your eyes.
@Mrfunbusiness Next time someone writes you a thought out, well written response to your outrageous claim, targeting their grammar as their most grievous offense probably isn't the way to go.
I don't think you get that most of us were there dude, we were going to church every sunday right along side you. Ofcourse, you know that because You are an atheist just trolling for kicks. I know this because when I pointed it out you didn't refute it.
@IncendiarySolution Once again, I am NOT an atheist. I believe in Jesus Christ as the only way to heaven, based on what the Word of God (the Bible) says. AND once again, I don't even know what trolling is. I'm sorry you were in the church and didn't receive God's Word in your heart. I hope one day you do receive His message in your spiritual heart. Also, when did I point out someone's grammar? Anyways...God Bless you!!!
@Mrfunbusiness Thank you for conceding every other point I made to try to correct me on pluralization of a noun and using god as a proper noun. These are arguements that you don't think are important anymore:
You are an Atheist
You are a Troll
God is dead
Masturbation makes you live longer
your god is dead
The data doesn't care about your feelings
Belief doesn't mean anything
Yahweh is a self absorbed war god
Your justifications require too much supplimentary information (souls, faith ex.)
@IncendiarySolution So let me get this right...A troll is an atheist pretending to be a Christian? That is so pointless, but like PZ said in the video, "There isn't any purpose for this." What a sad and good reason to do away with the life God has given us. I am sorry that so many here think I am an atheist, but the truth is that I really am a Christian. My testimony is real compared to the one JT gave outside MSU when he thought he was tricking Christians about being a Christian.
@IncendiarySolution JT said, when asked about being a Christian, "That he had been one his whole life." Wow, what a great answer from someone who doesn't know anything about Christianity. So if he thought we believed that, then maybe you will believe this...Christians are trying to tell those who are heading to hell, NOT to go there, but nobody wants to listen. So just keep heading towards the cliff at 200 mph and maybe God will reach you before you go over. All Christians can do is witness.
@MrFunBusiness If God existed and if He cared about human welfare, He would tell us himself. He wouldn't use random people we've never met and a collection of old scrolls. My parents divorced and my father bailed. He was not much of a father, but he at least called me every once in a while. And, I actually met him in person. You're suggesting that a loving God is content to remain invisible and communicate through the mouths of other people?
I'm sorry, I just have to say this: that chronic gum-smacker is an ASSHOLE!
audiotrax2000 4 days ago
5:06 his face! lol
MrDnB89 1 week ago
How can any christian say the bible doesn't contradict itself. You can't even trust a christian to be honest to themselves. Keep the religious away from children, they're a bad influence.
priestfan81 2 weeks ago 2
Kevin James is a Christian?
paperorpaper 2 weeks ago 3
guy in black shirt = annoying as fuck
youthank8 1 month ago
9:51 - WTF?!
OliverZimbelman 1 month ago
"I follow the Baptist... John Calvin... Martin Luther... Movement."
This is the guy who, when asked to choose one on a multiple choice question, he checks ALL of the boxes. xD
LadyMahala 1 month ago
@LadyMahala I think what he means is "I am a Protestant."
blackmichael75 1 week ago
I've never seen someone so brainwashed and stupid.
TheAzureSky1 1 month ago
i cant believe we have people worshipping this three thousand year old comic book
imagine three thousand years from now,people worshipping superman
of course religious ppl about now are thinking "well that's bogus no one ever said superman was god"
well thats where forgeries come in,
put in a so called witness here and there walla we have our self a god able to make the earth spin backwards and such
coltsrule5150 1 month ago
@coltsrule5150 The discipline of biblical criticism has been around since the 17th century and never arrived at these amazing conclusions. Despite using scholarly Methods as Textual , Source & Form criticism, Redaction , Canonical, Rhetorical criticism, historical , Psychological &, Socio-scientific & Postmodernist criticism & Feminist exegesis, they seem to have MISSED these points! They should either- 1/ turn academia upside down with your amazing revelations or- 2/ STOP ''RESEARCHING ''ON YT
MegaFloyd100 2 days ago
see how im chewing this gum? that makes me look like i know what im talking about munch munch munch
see how i hold my chest out and cross my arms? that makes me look like i know more than you
coltsrule5150 1 month ago
Pretty sure that big guy is a Poe.
SuperJBrowne 1 month ago
Who thinks that kid wasn't buying what his mom was saying? I felt bad for him being put up to ask stupid questions.
christallh24 1 month ago
Lol, Why are we doing this? -- "Because it feels good. I like it!"
southindiansensation 1 month ago
Isn't it funny how when PZ Meyers is explaining the intricacies of radiometric dating that the big man is nodding his head like he understands but he probably is just waiting for a chance to throw out more bullshit. You get the feeling that if he was sincere as a listener that he may actually learn something. Ignorant fool indeed. Its okay to disagree but only if you understand what you are disagreeing with otherwise the reasonable position is indifference. LMAO!
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TheResidentSkeptic 2 months ago
@7:00, Godwin's Law
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PLEASE, FOR THE LOVE OF ZEUS, STOP CHEWING GUM, YOU OVERGROWN FARM ANIMAL.
proprodigySD 2 months ago
And thus... Jesus had sex with his own mother.... What a perv
GLANL 2 months ago in playlist Atheism 5
You can see the lady in the second half of the vid doing mental gynmastics to justify her belief.
thebaronvoncarson 2 months ago
When you look at the big christian guy... Don't you just get the feeling that, If stupid had a form... it would take this mans form! He just looks like a farm animal!
Gooseman2k2 2 months ago 4
Does anyone actually know if there are more earthquakes and natural disasters than there in the past?
DarkEmergence 2 months ago
@DarkEmergence
The claims that the number of natural disasters has increased is baseless, the US geological survey has not noted a single trend in the number of natural disasters. The argument could simply be due to the fact that with modern communications, we are more aware of disasters. More likely it is just some crap a creationist made up because they want to believe the world will end.
ShouldersofGiants100 2 months ago
@ShouldersofGiants100 I thought it was something like that.
DarkEmergence 2 months ago
@ShouldersofGiants100 adding on to that, human societies or groups have started building their houses and invading places whr they dont belong. i live in mountains, india. we have recently heard of ppl dying land slides. lots n lots of em and the reason is they build their houses in available land space, without doin their research. another example, brisbane australian, whr ppl built their houses in flood zones n result? u might have heard bout floods n destruction in aus few months back.
chinamanspeakenlis 1 month ago
At 13:13 . . . . his inflection seems to say that he thinks billion is a LARGER figure than trillion. Hmmm, he can't be THAT stupid.
Helpmeknowthings 2 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
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LabyrinthOfDream 2 months ago
Ironically, the Christian guy probably thought he stumped PZ and when home with a hard-on and a smile.
MalchikBlue 2 months ago
The look on PZ's face at 12:00 when he says he's a biologist and the kid tries to argue with him about it... oh wow.
tyrelroo 2 months ago
Thank you for wasting your time talking to these ridiculous believers.
darbone 2 months ago
@darbone the sad part is that people like that kid are going to be brainwashed and traumatized by this squalor for the rest of their life unless they manage to deny their friends and family and everything they have been taught since they were young
LabyrinthOfDream 2 months ago
@LabyrinthOfDream I know what you mean, but that kid looked like he was just parroting his parents. Watch him turn 20 and go to college, that might shake it out of him. I walk through life, in Austin TX, just assuming everyone is an Atheist. I act like that is normal and people with wacko beliefs are weird, you know, reality. I think the ridiculous needs to be ridiculed, so I never hold back. Just look at these creationist and shout, DINOSAUR!
darbone 2 months ago
@darbone I sure hope so. I grew up in one of these cults never quite believing it but still a victim of the mindset they teach. even though i know better now, i still catch myself falling into that gap of "dont question just believe" from time to time. Its horrible and humiliating knowing that i was brainwashed and billions others are having the same done to them every day. Religion stunts the logic and critical thinking processes of the brain just like cutting a piece out with a knife.
LabyrinthOfDream 2 months ago
Respond to this video... but I do know what you struggle with. indoctrination is difficult. I tell people I am only a racist deep down where it was planted in my childhood, but I try not to act on those feelings even though I know they are there. It is difficult to recover from childhood. Keep struggling, and never just believe. No one knows any more than you do. You are a brilliant amazing creature of the Universe. The smartest thing anyone can ever say is "I don't know".
darbone 2 months ago
in 1987 astronomers saw a star in the outskirts of the Tarantula Nebula go nova. The star was over 160,000 light-years away, meaning that it actually went nova over 160,000 years ago. If God had actually created the world 6,000 years ago, but made it look older (by creating the photons for all the stars in the sky in mid-journy,) then that means he created the entire story of this star's existence and destruction in the photons traveling to earth, despite the star never having actually existed.
F1NGER 2 months ago
Godwins law strikes again ...I have no argument .....Hitler!
trampusa11 2 months ago
Fuck man, how come these people aren't EMBARRASSED? "God can make the earth look as old as he wants!" "The book said it, so it's true, and it's true because the book said it! I don't need proof!" Are you serious? You should be ashamed of yourself for believing such childish garbage!
copenhagenman325 3 months ago
I found it VERY interesting that at 5:37 when PZ started to ask specific questions about the bible the gum chewing, laid back, "mellow" christian, FACED off with PZ and refused to answer anything that was said. This is why, growing up an atheist, I was scared of Christians: They are violently adversarial when questioned, yet claim to be picked on at the same time. I would like to hear the xian explain why Comfort deleted chapters in Origin of the book he passed out...cowardice I claim.
ScientiaPerceptum 3 months ago
Have these Christian morons never heard of the Council of Nicea?
Katyusha666 3 months ago
If your trying to have an intellectual conversation with a scientist like PZ Myers on camera, the least you can do is swallow your gum.
GhostlyRebellion 3 months ago
dude, swallow your gum. you have no documents to prove any shit you're saying.
dooivid 3 months ago
Calling someone an ignorant fool in the context that he was using it in wasn't entirely an insult. Ignorance = Uninformed, and fool just means he believes in foolish things. Aka ignorant fool.
Mglosk 3 months ago
If he could do anything, why impregnate a virgin? Why not just manifest?
gsusreloded 3 months ago
I think there is hope for the big man. Ridicule is a powerful tool to dispel stupid ideas.
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@lazycackle of course if you think about it, do you really want an aggressive meat head like him to be on the side of atheism?
LabyrinthOfDream 2 months ago
@LabyrinthOfDream He could beat up the creationists when all methods of reasoning have failed.
lazycackle 2 months ago
i think we had an intelligent conversation says the gorilla. lmao
kram83au 3 months ago
''No, he's allowing us to see how, I mean the wonder and the beauty of the Earth and to allow a star, I mean you can't just create time of from a star from the light of a star to reach us like that''. Haha!
GoldenRatio2 3 months ago
Gotta love the part at 11:42
Uneducated bibleman: "Are you a scientist?"
Smart man: "Yes, a biologist"
Uneducated bibleman goes on explaining the complex structure of a cell to a preofessor in biology. Epic comedy is Created.
antibulletdodger101 3 months ago 7
Love that KSFX was there...I hope they'll be there in November! :)
TheEcogeek82 4 months ago
lol @ that guy chewing his gum thinking he's all smart when he's a total moron douchebag
Brushles83 4 months ago
I nearly fell off my chair when the gum chewing guy said he is a lutherian, calvinist, baptist hahahahahaha.
TheAtheistlover 4 months ago
i love it when PZ explains radiometric dating to the christian. the xian has NO fucking clue what he's talking about.
qtzlctl2012 4 months ago
"we trolled them so hard" I fucking love her xD
SkelanimalKitteh 4 months ago
there is so much wrong with that 'ignorant fool'. typical christian arguments.
c0mpiled 4 months ago
who the fuck is this smiling weird guy that just walks up to them and stares and then walks away?
GodWasConfused 4 months ago
@GodWasConfused
it'd be ironic if it was God in human form LOL
carzorthade 4 months ago
Balls - adj.1. Having or containing the gonads required to call someone that can bench press you an "ignorant fool."
2. PZ Myers (see 1.)
drunkasssteve 5 months ago 4
@drunkasssteve
To his credit, that guy was an amiable ignorant fool.
I'll be seeing PZ in person in about six months. I should print your comment and present it to him. I'm sure he'd appreciate it!! I certainly did!!
thomasnonsense 4 months ago
This motherfucker is not afraid of shit. I absolutely admire him.
drunkasssteve 5 months ago
Someone needs to tell chewing gum guy that it is NOT courteous to talk to someone he doesn't know while he has a mouth full of gum.
dingodavid 5 months ago
Smurfs don't exist? Bullshit...
ApathyPersonified 5 months ago
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ApathyPersonified 5 months ago
CHEWING GUY: Where did you get that info?
PZ: Years and years of research.
Something Chewing Guy will never do.
lambent77777 5 months ago
@Dlaj2011 You've proven my point. Also, did I ever claim Christianity once in my comment? No. I didn't. Go back to being 16 somewhere else you bloody child. *Disclaimer, I don't give a fuck if you're 20 either, you're still a child.*
ItsJagiello 5 months ago
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FreudianComplex 5 months ago
I'm all for free speech, and knowledge and whatnot, but really, whoever the bloody hell this guy thinks he is, he's nobody to treat the gum chewing guy like he does. I'm seriously sick and tired of people in our community, or vica-versa, treating Christians like they're three year olds because of their faith. Seriously.
ItsJagiello 5 months ago
@ItsJagiello how he treated him? dude he treated him very fairly, considering 908% of the guys statements were "why" when hes the one believing in the hocus pocus.
Seriously think about how badly a group of atheists would be treated if they showed up outside a church on a sunday and protested the absurdities and corruption of youth that goes on inside
LabyrinthOfDream 2 months ago
@ItsJagiello He was treating the guy like a three year old because he was acting like a three year old. He's discussing biology with a biologist while chewing gum and repeating apologetics. The dumb apologetics. Lets not forget, he's protesting a skeptic meeting, HE'S COMING TO THEM.
DarkEmergence 2 months ago
Here's science: Form a hypothesis (or a null hypothesis) -> test said position -> analyse results ->you win if hypothesis is true or not because you've advanced knowledge. It's very simple. Here's what religions do: Say what's true -> look for support -> ignore anything which does not support you -> You fail, whether it is true or not because you didn't do anything except get lucky or not. You may as well not have been there.
jacksawild 6 months ago
13:25 - 13:40 truly exposes the ignorance of this bible thumper, who obviously knows nothing about geology. Lava consists of molten rock, which is regularly extruded to the surface due to earth's interior pressures. That rock is certainly NOT "4 hours old". This dumbass speaks as if lava is somehow "intelligently designed" by volcanoes at the moment of eruption, but I guess one shouldn't be surprised that a creatard would hold such a belief.
typhoidX 6 months ago
The non-PZ guy is a very good debater. He gets right to the point, doesn't go for the usual biting one liner, and knows his Bible very well- I'd like to see more of him engaged in Socratic debates!
ideologger 6 months ago
The Comfort drone looks like a Yorkshire terrier being lectured in quantum mechanics
jcgadfly 6 months ago
"Aha, aha" (chew chew) "Aha, aha"
1tepa1 6 months ago 2
When you wrestle a pig, win or lose, you're covered in sh*t.
twiedenfeld 7 months ago 24
I do believe I can feel the dumb creeping about in this video.
Baeloth 7 months ago
I love PZ Myers facial expressions. His facial expression is saying "This fucker is retarded"
Haha. Priceless
C00lblkatheist 7 months ago 2
PZ isn't accustomed to encountering that degree of ignorance in person.
unforgivn81 7 months ago
religious thought is a drug as bad as crystal meth or LSD. they all cause delusion, but there are far more people who will kill for god than for LSD.
diabloblanco0819 7 months ago
@diabloblanco0819
And LSD wears off after a few hours . . .
mdiem 6 months ago
17.40 onwards the kid watches as his mother looks increasingly idiotic.
lewisner 7 months ago
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lewisner 7 months ago
9:48 wtf was that guy that doing?
seanmck2002 7 months ago
Smarmy gum chomping dude is quite grating.
sakodak 7 months ago
10: PRINT "Why's that!";
20: SCAN keywords( PZ.reply );
30: IF Keywords GOTO 50;
40: ELSE GOTO 10;
50: Hitler++; WIN += 1; PROGRAM.EXIT;
666: RUN think.exe
WickeDFate4 8 months ago 2
Yeah, I've seen it used many times and it's easy to preempt. However, it just seemed that PZ set himself up for it, but luckily the guy wasn't intelligent enough to push the issue.
Slowens12 8 months ago
While I agree with PZ, he needs to brush up on philosophy... That guy could have owned him if he pushed the moral relativity point.
Slowens12 8 months ago
@Slowens12 Yeah, seems PZ was using a different definition of the word "objective" than typically used in philosophy. At the same time, theologians get carried away with relativism by, as this guy did, trying to apply it to a single person or, after PZ tried to correct him, to a large group of people instead of to the entire human species. And they do it to create a false dichotomy, which I am sure you are well aware.
TheMidwestAtheist 8 months ago
@Slowens12 Christians are the greatest moral relativists - do what you want to and ask forgiveness. lather, rinse, repeat.
jcgadfly 6 months ago 26
@jcgadfly I grew up in a liberal Catholic family. Even when I considered myself a Catholic, I came to the same conclusion. It's worse with Protestants, with their overarching belief of sola fide- salvation by grace. This impression has grown stronger and stronger over the years- they're utterly relativist and post modern, except for when they want to persecute some outgroup.
ideologger 6 months ago
@spruntfemalespray How does God kill 9 million kids a year? And I will definitely not stay away from kids when it comes to speaking about Jesus Christ They need to know the Truth about Jesus. You are free to think what you want, but your words will not make me stop doing what I do. Thank you...
MrFunBusiness 8 months ago
@MrFunBusiness You heard it here, folks: this is one christian that won't stay away from kids. I like to imagine you screaming this as the cops drag you away from a playground as you clutch a bible in one hand and a a sign that reads "FREE CANDY AND BIBLE STUDY IN MY VAN" in the other.
KomradePosey 8 months ago
@KomradePosey To put words in my mouth shows your level of maturity. I may speak to kids about Jesus Christ, the Savior of the world, but I don't share the same sick mind you do. After your comment I think it is you who needs to stay away from kids. I don't really blame you though for your thoughts based on stories about people who do those very things. Sin brings about evil, that is for sure. Please read the Bible and ask God to show you His love.
MrFunBusiness 8 months ago
@MrFunBusiness Hey, I didn't put any words in your mouth, I simply created a context for them to appear in!
For your information, I HAVE read the Bible and after seeing some of the horrific things that god supposedly did to the people that you claim he loves I want none of his "love."
KomradePosey 8 months ago
@spruntfemalespray You may find this hard to believe, but there are millions of people with a "whole brain" who believe in Jesus Christ. Also, I will not keep my mouth shut in public, because of two reasons. One, it is my duty at a Christian to tell people of the love of Jesus Christ. Two, the 2nd amendment says I have the right to speak in public. I also go out many times a year and hand out Gospel tracts as well as speak to people about Jesus Christ, and I will continue to do so. :)
MrFunBusiness 8 months ago
I love how that guy chewing gum thinks he has good points to make. He actually said he was having an intellectual discussion with PZ? Like they were on equal footing. Amazing.
Corneilius5188 8 months ago
the gum-chewing is SO ANNOYING.
Nkrasle 8 months ago
Lol, he doesn't even know PZ.
daemonowner 8 months ago
@AlessioDAlessandro
The only reason people have ever dated the Gospels into the first-century is Church tradition.
Jesus is not mentioned by Philo, Justus, Josephus, Tacitus, Suetonius, Pliny the Younger, Pliny the Elder, Lucian, etc. These are our writers of the period, they should have at least had a passing mention of Jesus.
Also, Jesus is not mentioned once in the Talmud, which is impossible if he existed.
I recommend Dr. Robert M. Price's works.
smartwarlord 9 months ago
@AlessioDAlessandro
Jesus did not exist. Galilee at the time was inhabited entirely by Aramaic-speaking converts to Judaism. There were two Greek cities in the region, and thus no one knew Greek in Galilee EXCEPT those cities. Since the rest of the region was rural.
All of the Gospels are Second-century works of Greek writers, they were anonymous, as no names were attached
If you're Mark, and know of no other gospels, why would you write the name as "euangelion kata Markos" (according to Mark)
smartwarlord 9 months ago
@AlessioDAlessandro For starters the Pharisees were not atheists. I'm glad you don't like to believe in silly ideas. Just like PZ Meyers said in an interview with Simmons..."Many of Darwin's ideas have been proved wrong and that is why we keep doing research." Well Mr. AlessioDAlessandro keep doing your research. Eventually you will come across the Truth. Hopefully before you die.
MrFunBusiness 9 months ago
@MrFunBusiness The beauty and strength of science is that it adapts itself according to new information, it evolves (pun intended) in order to give the clearest picture of reality and how reality functions. This is why it trumps religions, as there isn't a single religion a live that hasn't tried to keep an old idea in the face of a new one, regardless of veracity or evidence.
The true tragedy is that when you die your last thoughts will be a farce, that you are going to Heaven.
PhobicOne 8 months ago
@PhobicOne Atheism wears blinders and only sees what would be there if there wasn't a God. It wouldn't dare look at it from all sides and make a more educated decision. I hope that God changes your mind. The tragedy is that when you die you will have to bow before Jesus Christ as a former unbeliever and realize that He is real. I hope you put your faith in Him before your last breath. By your beiief when we both die we are dead. What does it matter what our last thoughts are?...right???
MrFunBusiness 8 months ago
@MrFunBusiness This is nothing more than another attempt at Pascal's Wager.
Somebody doesn't accept what you are claiming...threaten them. Thank you for demonstrating what religion is based upon.
MrFungus420 8 months ago
@AlessioDAlessandro And even if God did show up, atheists would just dismiss it and still want more proof.
MrFunBusiness 9 months ago
@AlessioDAlessandro Matthew 12:38-40 says, "Then some of the scribes and Pharisees answered Him, saying, 'Teacher, we want to see a sign from You.' But He answered and said to them, 'An eveil and adulterous generation craves for a sign; and yet no sign whatll be given to it but the sign of Jonah the prophet; for just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the sea monster, so shall the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.'"
MrFunBusiness 9 months ago
@AlessioDAlessandro Sorry, but I disagree with you and so does God...
MrFunBusiness 9 months ago
@AlessioDAlessandro It just goes to show that being a distinguished professor and having a Ph.D doesn't mean anything. I read and listen to plenty of Ph.D's who say the exact opposite of what you are writing.
MrFunBusiness 9 months ago
@MrFunBusiness apparently for you education is not that important, don't worry it is obvious that you are not educated, post your credentials for the irony and our entertainment
bajorjor1 7 months ago
@bajorjor1 Using periods in your sentences shows you are somewhat educated. Since you didn't, I will take that as one uneducated person (you) telling an educated person...absolutely nothing!! hahaha Oh, and I am in the process of finishing by bachelors in business and then on to my masters. Have a nice day! :)
MrFunBusiness 7 months ago
@MrFunBusiness thanks for the irony and entertainment. More please...
bajorjor1 7 months ago
@AlessioDAlessandro I don't know who your scholars are, but let me give you an example of one of the authors who wrote their own book. In John 21:24 it says, "This is the disciple who bears witness of these things, and wrote these things; and we know that his witness is true." With that being said, it is also in the Scriptures that each of the Gospel writers knew Jesus.
MrFunBusiness 9 months ago
@AlessioDAlessandro Thank you for proving my point about adults. Being an adult doesn't make you perfect. Now on to your second thought...If God gave us minds to use, then why wouldn't He want us to do research that only gives us more amazement of His creation. Without minds we wouldn't have the God's Word passed on from generation to generation. Without our minds we wouldn't be able to pass on to the next generations the greatness of our God.
MrFunBusiness 9 months ago
@AlessioDAlessandro First, during the New Testament times the people spoke Greek and that is why they were written in Greek. Second, those "scholars" are wrong, they all met Jesus. Third, many disciples were ordinary men, but the ones who wrote the Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke and John) were not common men. Paul who wrote many of the Epistles also was not a common man but used to be a Pharissee among Pharissees, putting him at the top of his class. Peter however was a common fisherman.
MrFunBusiness 9 months ago
@AlessioDAlessandro Yes, I actually do know that. Just to give you some insight, I have probably taken more classes on the Bible and other religions than you have taken college classes all together. I am very well aware of these arguments that have been going on before you and I were ever born. They will always be used by those who have not been changed by the power of God. As usual, God will continue to move forward and accomplish His will generation after generation after generation.
MrFunBusiness 9 months ago
@AlessioDAlessandro Please do your research, because I too have physicists, biologist, scientists, and etc. I personally know a research scientist who was an atheist for 40 years of his life before he became a Christian after trying to disprove God existed. He now educates many people of the fallacies of evolution. Oh, and when you tell me to grow up and be an adult do you want me to be like Adolf Hitler, Charles Manson, Stalin, bin Laden, or some other adult that you have in mind?
MrFunBusiness 9 months ago
@AlessioDAlessandro Now let me see, should I believe you who keeps saying I am an adult and should figure this stuff out, or Biblical scholars who have spent years and years researching the content of the New Testament and also the context in which it was written and have a ton to say about God being real. My proof doesn't rely on people. You don't need proof whent God has changed your heart. A blind man will never know green and you will never know God until He opens your eyes.
MrFunBusiness 9 months ago
@AlessioDAlessandro I have read plenty about how the New Testament canon came to be. I'll take my sources over yours thank you.
MrFunBusiness 9 months ago
@AlessioDAlessandro The bible has been edited to fit different writing styles, but the message for each verse is the same. The New American Standard Bible (NASB) is a word for word meaning. Check your sources, because they are wrong
MrFunBusiness 9 months ago
@AlessioDAlessandro You, too, I am assuming are an adult and I can't believe after all the scientific proof of intelligent design that you can't see the fallacy of evolution. And yes, I believe everything in the Bible from Genesis to Revelation. Tell me how Jesus Christ fulfilled so many prophecies made about Him in the Old Testament. The data has been run and the chances of even eight of those prophecies being fulfilled are 1 in 10 to the 17th power. 1 in 10 to the 10th power is impossible!
MrFunBusiness 9 months ago
@AlessioDAlessandro Then don't take me seriously. I can't make you. I only wish you would for your sake.
MrFunBusiness 9 months ago
The greatest love story ever told is in the Bible. God who keeps showing people love even when they keep turning away from Him. God, who came down in the form of Jesus Christ and died for a people who hated Him. God, who is still with us today and winning our hearts back to Him. What a GREAT GOD!!!
MrFunBusiness 9 months ago
The greatest love story ever told is in the Bible. God who keeps showing people love even when they keep turning away from Him. God, who came down in the form of Jesus Christ and died for a people who hated Him. God, who is still with us today and winning our hearts back to Him. What a GREAT GOD!!!
MrFunBusiness 9 months ago
@AlessioDAlessandro Why WOULDN'T someone try to debate a university professor? Is every university professor on this earth right? I don't think so...
MrFunBusiness 9 months ago
Religious beliefs are delusions. The quicker the world realizes and comes to terms with it, the quicker we can make the world a better place.
NikkitHcify 9 months ago
@NikkitHcify religious beliefs were here before you and will be after you. Get used to it. It still amazes me that people think God will go away and He still hasn't.
MrFunBusiness 9 months ago
JT: Are you saying the absence of evidence is evidence of absence?" Yep, JT...That is what Christians are saying, along with the other 500 witnesses mentioned in the Bible.
MrFunBusiness 9 months ago
something I wasn't expecting: JT handled debating much better than PZ.
WCK619 9 months ago
I love how the gum-chewer tries to assert that he's involved in an intelligent conversation.
WCK619 9 months ago
Lol@ Hi Guy at 10:00
kasroa 10 months ago
This woman is doing mental gymnastics to convince herself the bible isn't contradictory...
idreamtofflight 10 months ago
I pray to god he chokes on that gum.
Stuckherewithyou 1 year ago
You can't teach stupid, and the guy chewing gum is proof!!
misterzonker2584 1 year ago 12
When the best evidence someone has is the only evidence they have ever studied it doesn't do anygood to challenge their mind, but instead their heart.
MrFunBusiness 1 year ago
the best courtesy to you is honesty
izzet2006 1 year ago
When people ask basic science question while debating they really are not interested. They could have done that on their own time.
JJPHILLYLG 1 year ago
why even bother with such uneducated troll
elfootman 1 year ago 2
@MrFunBusiness You're putting yourself in harms way, all this hope and promise on something that has hurt so many before, and will continue to destroy lives and families. If anyone is warning anyone, its me warning you, not the other way around.
I Know, because I've read the dogma and experienced all the hate that it brings with it.
Infant Circumcision takes CHOICE away from the individual. Its unethical by Any standard. Are there bits that you wouldn't mind people cutting off of you?
IncendiarySolution 1 year ago 2
@MrFunBusiness I am not a biologist. I don't have the answers. If we were talking about macro-evolution and the big bang, that'd be fine, but we're not talking about that, we're talking about your idiot-box religion.
IncendiarySolution 1 year ago
It's obvious this man has mental issues. We atheists should pity him. Perhaps we'll pray for him.....
2eelShmeal 1 year ago
Once again, Troll! Troll! Troll!
IncendiarySolution 1 year ago
This gum chewing ignoramus and others like him truly disgrace the human species. If only he'd listen to PZ, he might actually learn something. Instead he spews creationist 'arguments', asks absurd questions and parades his ignorance.
dexsst5 1 year ago
@MrFunBusiness Belief is a weakness, It gives other people the opportunity to take advantage of you. You're wearing on your sleeve that you're an ignorant pawn waiting for the right scheme. Faith isn't a virtue, its a hole in your bullshit detector, and while I might call it a shame, others call it 'selection'.
A little Pulp fiction before I go.
"The truth is you're the weak. And I'm the tyranny of evil men. But I'm tryin, Ringo. I'm tryin' real hard to be the shepherd. "
IncendiarySolution 1 year ago
@MrFunBusiness Let me show you a little scientific approach.
Here's how science works. Your god doesn't exist. You think he does? Show me supporting details. Your evidence does not support your claim, therefore until we have more supporting evidence, guess what? Your god doesn't exist.
Science doesn't care about your god damn feelings, and the fact that your 'god' does shouldn't make you hopeful, it should make you suspicious.
IncendiarySolution 1 year ago
@IncendiarySolution "Why is that?"
MrFunBusiness 1 year ago
@IncendiarySolution I almost forgot to ask you..."Where is your evidence for the big bang and macro-evolution?" Until you can come up with something other than magic then maybe you should look at your "evidence" again and see its flaws. Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Life and no comes to the Father except through Him. I hope you come to see the truth about Jesus Christ and His love for this world.
MrFunBusiness 1 year ago
@MrFunBusiness Third, you support a god that threatens others with eternal torture. By saying "god bless you" and "I hope you find the right way" You're sending signals that mean "If you don't, you'll be burned eternal."
Your god's blessing is a threat from your lips to my ears. Thats the only way to take it. I can't make that any more clear. If you know I don't believe in your cult, and we both understand your consequences for non-belief, You are issuing a Threat to me.
IncendiarySolution 1 year ago
@IncendiarySolution If you're running down a path headed towards a cliff that will lead to your death and I jump out and say "STOP going that way or you're going to die," does that mean I am "Threatning" you? I guess we should all just stand by and watch people run to their death, because that makes sense...right? I'm not holding a gun to your head and saying believe or die, but I do know some people who do treat life and religion that way...VERY SAD. So once again, I pray God blesses you
MrFunBusiness 1 year ago
@MrFunBusiness Second off, By now, you should understand what a troll is, even have a functional definition. A troll sets out to waste peoples time and get them enraged and/or trick them. If you can't pull that from the context clues, I don't know what else to tell you.
IncendiarySolution 1 year ago
@MrFunBusiness I'm going to start off at the top because i'm radical like that. If you're going to ask me a question, about if your nonsense cult hurt me, ask me the god damn question instead of using it as a rhetorical. I'm a 23 year old circumcised, baptized and indoctrinated male that has been cut, drowned and is now recovering from the hate that your war god; Yahweh, Eloheim or Jahova is the center of. So if you don't think that Your belief does harm, think again.
IncendiarySolution 1 year ago
@IncendiarySolution If you were drowned then how are you still writing me messages? And doesn't science show that circumcision can actually be a good thing to keep bacteria from building up around your manhood?
MrFunBusiness 1 year ago
@MrFunBusiness Circumcision is mutilation... It should be a choice of a person, not someone else's, or if there's medical necessity. Do you condone female circumcision?
pietje32 1 year ago 2
Buildings don't reproduce numb nuts. Wow, these theists are dumb as rocks.
AirplaneRider 1 year ago
"You know Hitler was a Catholic right?"
"..."
That sums up this entire farcical "debate" pretty succinctly.
WildeAnarchist 1 year ago
@WildeAnarchist professing to be a Christian or "Catholic" doesn't mean you are. Only God knows the heart.
MrFunBusiness 1 year ago
@Mrfunbusiness BTW, you still havn't given me anything convincing that your god(s) is/are any different from any other dangerous cult.
IncendiarySolution 1 year ago
@IncendiarySolution Has God or even another false god ever hurt you? No, I didn't think so. That is because people create cults not God. The God of the Bible is the only God that says to believe in Jesus to make it to heaven. The God of the Bible is the only God who places everything on Jesus to get to heaven. All other religions and "cults" require you to get yourself to heaven. That makes you a god in your eyes.
MrFunBusiness 1 year ago
@Mrfunbusiness Next time someone writes you a thought out, well written response to your outrageous claim, targeting their grammar as their most grievous offense probably isn't the way to go.
I don't think you get that most of us were there dude, we were going to church every sunday right along side you. Ofcourse, you know that because You are an atheist just trolling for kicks. I know this because when I pointed it out you didn't refute it.
See how that works?
IncendiarySolution 1 year ago
@IncendiarySolution Once again, I am NOT an atheist. I believe in Jesus Christ as the only way to heaven, based on what the Word of God (the Bible) says. AND once again, I don't even know what trolling is. I'm sorry you were in the church and didn't receive God's Word in your heart. I hope one day you do receive His message in your spiritual heart. Also, when did I point out someone's grammar? Anyways...God Bless you!!!
MrFunBusiness 1 year ago
@Mrfunbusiness Thank you for conceding every other point I made to try to correct me on pluralization of a noun and using god as a proper noun. These are arguements that you don't think are important anymore:
You are an Atheist
You are a Troll
God is dead
Masturbation makes you live longer
your god is dead
The data doesn't care about your feelings
Belief doesn't mean anything
Yahweh is a self absorbed war god
Your justifications require too much supplimentary information (souls, faith ex.)
IncendiarySolution 1 year ago
@IncendiarySolution So let me get this right...A troll is an atheist pretending to be a Christian? That is so pointless, but like PZ said in the video, "There isn't any purpose for this." What a sad and good reason to do away with the life God has given us. I am sorry that so many here think I am an atheist, but the truth is that I really am a Christian. My testimony is real compared to the one JT gave outside MSU when he thought he was tricking Christians about being a Christian.
MrFunBusiness 1 year ago
@IncendiarySolution JT said, when asked about being a Christian, "That he had been one his whole life." Wow, what a great answer from someone who doesn't know anything about Christianity. So if he thought we believed that, then maybe you will believe this...Christians are trying to tell those who are heading to hell, NOT to go there, but nobody wants to listen. So just keep heading towards the cliff at 200 mph and maybe God will reach you before you go over. All Christians can do is witness.
MrFunBusiness 1 year ago
@MrFunBusiness If God existed and if He cared about human welfare, He would tell us himself. He wouldn't use random people we've never met and a collection of old scrolls. My parents divorced and my father bailed. He was not much of a father, but he at least called me every once in a while. And, I actually met him in person. You're suggesting that a loving God is content to remain invisible and communicate through the mouths of other people?
Vincentaneous 9 months ago