I have seen my file... It makes absolutely no sense at all. It describes nothing of what happened to me. It has some strange writing in it... thats about it. I think it maps out what I remember from my childhood... but the doctors dont let me see it. I think when I am in one of these episodes... the doctors dont really listen to anything I say.
Be. In the moment, right? Cannot be done. If you've thought about it enough you will understand exactly what I'm saying, if you don't already. That is, if you've been "bipolar-enlightened". Or maybe that's why you think being in the moment is going to heal BP. I admire your devotion to Tolle. But you'll never be able to squeeze yourself between the past and the future (I know, the future doesn't exist, but that makes it even harder), not until the day you die. But whatever turns you one...
I have no concerns. I already found my answers. So, ready for this world change too. I just love watching others define the truth in their own perspective. It brings you into the moment when you talk about it.
Mothers understand, that sometimes when you watch your child playing, you realize how beautiful this moment is and you get emotional. Men, thats why women are very emotional creatures. We are more connected to the present moment. Check out this "truth contest", google it.
It's hard to generalize about these things. There may be cases where this approach may be helpful but in others it may not. Every person, every situation is different. I have a friend who has struggled with bipolar disorder and psychotic breaks for many years. At times the best thing he could do is medicate. Later he found help through spiritual means to an extent, but sometimes people really have to work through a lot of negativity and confusion before they can even think about anything else.
the video froze at 3:14 when he was talking about the present moment which made me look around the room away from my monitor which felt like an extremely wierd coincidence
I think that while the spiritual crisis approach can help some people find hope and strength it can also be damaging to imply someone is evolving when they feel like shit. I was already predisposed to think of my own crisis on spiritual terms, when it occurred. However, it was a time of extreme fear and suffering and everyone around me was trying to tell me to just relax and accept it and would pass, and I wasn't able to, causing self-doubt and hatred. So to truly be with someone accept THAT.
I believe real love is achieved by those that are willing to try to stay in the present moment. I have seen major improvements in someone, once they were accepted and loved as they were, and assisted through difficult times, without trying to change them.
After I had the experience, when I was 25, the power of now was the first book I had read in years. Sound like a promoter? Well, to be honest, I have problems with some of his opinion, but the book seriously helped me to step away from the inner conflict and just be in the now, observing things for what they were and appreciating their use. Glad I found this series. Thanks.
@bavwill yo dude i had read the power of now about 3 times and tried to live in the moment for up to a year, at which point i had a manic episode....total truth in what your saying. I'd be glad to hear more about your experience.
Level 8 to me will be a movement of The Power of Now or more accurately described as faith (not as a church word, farmers have faith why else would they put seed on the ground?)
But it will also have Power of Purpose behind it. That's just my belief. I don't think it's good enough to "JUST BE" and "DO NOTHING"
However, I see you've put a lot of thought into this so kudos to you for some interesting insights.
My mother has been schizophrenic for almost 5 years... no meds, just a case worker that checks up on her. This "power of now" is easier said than done. I do believe spirituality is better than medication but I also know she will die a schizophrenic. Anyone who wants to prove me wrong is more than welcome to give it a try. Truely, if you think you have the answer I will get in contact with you. I know bipolar is different than schizophrenia and this addresses the former... I have a dilemma now.
wow. i was reading "the power of now" when I went through a big episode that lasted about 3 months. i'm an artist, so i had an urge to draw, and the first thing i drew was a spiral that went up.
Wow, this is amazing! I worked at a nursing home that had lots of elderly that were in psychosis and I did just what you said on here. I did not attempt to change it, I just helped them have it. Great video!
try to BE with a bipolar in his/her manic phase...then try it again and you'll need a doctor yourself! :) This can only be possible if almost everybody is in the NOW!
Apart from some of the new age paradigm bullshit; a LOT of good points here!
I've seen both sides, people in normal crisis defined as "sick" and messed up bad by psychiatry, and others who where so ill (Not just in a temporary crisis) and needed all the help they could get.
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This is a dangerous video for someone who is actually ill. While "just being" is certainly an attractive idea, it really is not appropriately addressed in the context of Bipolar Disorder in these videos. The connection with Bipolar disorder was never actually made, other than it's potential relationship with level of consciousness. The videos are oversimplified and very general. Just being with someone in a psychotic state may be nice, but it doesn't get them out of it.
@Kaytee100 i think that the person must have work done on the inside of their self to be healed. just being with someone who is schitzophrenic may be a kind gesture but they probably will continue to see people?
@Kaytee100 I completely agree with you. If you read my post below you will understand why I am siding with you. These individuals that went through a "couple months" of spiritual awakening have no clue what it is like to ride this rodeo your whole life. Before my mother become schizophrenic there were all sorts of other problems that I had to live with in my childhood before the real illness set on. Yes, spiritual enlightenment helped me cope but will not save her from dying mentally ill.
Man, the title didn't convince me to click this link, it was actually the girls picture that did it for me (cheap trick), but i can't find her, instead there's a lobotamy picture, heh?
Although, i agree about that part on pro vs non pro. The attitude of "i know your sick, your sick" of many doctors while your in a manic-psychotic state is actually quite traumatic and damaging. It's idiotic to try and convince someone that their world view it entirely wrong. I know they were right today, but i still think that the approach was extremely stupid.
Well, modern psychology doesn't subscribe to Freuds psychodynamic model in these diseases anymore. This changes about 10 years ago when it got replaced with CBT(cognitive behavioral therapy) and neuropsychology... bad exampel dude.
bi polar must be different for people. i thought i was going crazy at one point then i learned to balance my emotions and found freedom and happiness. i live in pure bliss everyday. howv do i feel this good sobar. my dreams are dead strong aswel. anyone any idears what happened to me. off the infom\ation over 4 year am pushed towards am spiritly free enjoying life to thew max
Depression is the result of suppressed negative thoughts which emerges as a massive negative energy blockage usually located in the center of human body right above the navel point.The energy flow doesn’t move which provokes a heavy layer of unbalanced energy waves blocking the natural energy exchange between major vital organs. Medicine cannot alter or cure depression, it only suppresses human thought process. By altering your thought process, you undo the energy blockage and let it flow freely
bullshit. im bipolar and my disorder is in no way spiritual. what's so spiritual about being depressed for three days? my mania isn't spiritual either. it feels more like doing 5 or 6 lines of coke. i start fucking with ppl, playing head games, and manipulating ppl for sheer fun. dont get me wrong, i enjoy being manic, but it is in no way spiritual. when i take my meds its like im not even bipolar.
i´m from argentina, i want to congratulate you for your video, i consider everything you say is true, not because your saying it, but because i ve lived it.
i also want to tell you that im an enthusiast reader of the tao te king, i read it several times, and i have found very interesting, to change the word tao for love, every time it appears in the book. its a nice experience. thank you, greetings! pablo
Freud was a Frankenstein who created a monsterous psychotherapy called psychoanalysis. He was a genius none the less. But being a genius and getting things right dont always go together. Consider Artistotle; another genius who got almost everything he wrote about wrong.
@Drastam Humans are meant to be flawed. psychoanalysis is meant to find that flaw. it seems plausible if that flaw cured it will manifest itself in further problems. with this science there is no growth. But is everyone capable of growth. i would rather alleviate their pain.
@foxleyleon Hi :) I have read your comment several times and I find it to be a remarkable expression of the upside-downness of the psychoanalytic philosophy and practice. It is so 'wrong' that I could not begin to comment.
if you spend much time with people with psychosis .. it can have a really bad effect on you! .. this implies you are well off and have time/financial freedom.. no?
I went through a spiritual emergency six months ago and now fully appreciate what happened. I now realise it is a part of growth and not a reason to lock up and medicate people.
I suspect that it's some form of lowered inhibition of talking about one's perceptions and a lack of being able to recognize the difference between you and others at that point, or even care, with mania
I think delusions and psychiosis is more something like schizophrenia
how did the video maker miss this?
if your psychs said it was BP then WOW you must've met terrible psychs, I've never heard of anyone who knows anything about psych to link BP to psychosis, with exception to the depressive stage, and the way psychs treat that is say, "really now, is that a justified negative depiction of yourself?"
a lot of people understand sonof, they just don't believe it to be the most accurate model to use, so they don't use it
this confuses you, stick to the method you know, while it IS true that their ideas and notions may not be helpful, remember that most of the time when someone DOES understand the other person, they forget the other person doesn't understand THEM
and when they do complain someone else doesn't understand, it's THEMSELVES who don't understand the other
what that means is that I feel you are subjecting others to your point of view as authoritative on the matter, and as such, can not see the reason for materialistic viewpoints, I feel that this may be some of the reason for your crisis in the first place
I feel that you can't function in the "materialistic" setting, because you lack the capability to understand stuff at that level, not hierarchical levels, but a subjective form of levels
and so you rely on the more basic methods, which work too
my recommendation is that people do not take this literally unless they already agree with it, if one is unsure, keep an open mind and realize that this speaks to people on a non-logical/rational level in many forms, if one is to take it at face value, they will gain nothing from it, some are incapable of this so this video will speak to them in the desireable manner, however someone like me doesn't need to, even though I can
I am saying this because I feel you are doing what the 5's "did"
in other words, different aspects of everyone, have been taken, and ordered as a hierarchy, for what reason I do not know, however you're using it as if to compensate for a complex or lack of confidence, some people can't understand in a rational/logical manner certain things, I think you are one of those people, you relate to it as a 1-3 would, the 6 is the self you can place above those others, and the 7 is the mary sue so you can say "no look see I don't think I'm perfect"
cognitive therapy is about trying to help work out personal issues and crises without medication, while making sense
I suspect that some psychosis related stuff is merely the brain shutting down for maintenance and reordering itself to some degree cognitively
I maintain that you are delusional about what happened, but that irregardless, it worked for you, and that pretty much anyone has this sort of framework possibly built into them, some don't need it though, your hierachy is a trait blob!
I ate muggers once without realizing that's what they were until I ate 2 small ones, and then I decided to eat some more because if I was going to have the event anyways, I might as well make it something, the dissociative was rather intersting and I liked it, it pretty much cleared my mind very nicely of any clutter, internal strife is an ordering of priorities error basically, and believe that those meds were not for bipolar...
sounds like AA / NA to me, (don't worry about the tomarrow' it's not here yet,dont worry about the past because it's gone, but enjoy the present becuse it's a gift)
@necropolian1 Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mistery but today is a gift, that's why it's called present.Yea, well, that's also the Mindfulness phillosophy, live in the now.
What is the broader purpose of autism then? I have Asperger's and ADD and so far I have been struggling with feelings of guilt and inadequacy. I'm not sure what my gifts are yet. What is the role of autistic people?
@Chizpurfle52595 that's different, surely this guy isn't saying every mental health issue has a meaning and purpose and place in the structure of life... people have problems beyond that, as with any disability, I'd say this was, as broad as his words are, this is a fairly narrow phenomenon,
I agree that living in the now is the way to truly experience reality for what it is, and that modern society has manifested in such a way that it makes us worry about the future, feel guilty for the past and forget about the present, but I have a lot of trouble accepting that bipolar is in fact some sort of a spiritual awakening. Who knows, maybe I've been brainwashed by modern society, perhaps I'd need to experience it myself or talk to others in person who have, but that's just my opinion.
@OxiDemonik Bipolar is not a spiritual awakening. This man is making a huge over-generalisation. There are some cases where the person with bipolar (or more to the point - psychosis) is involved in a psycho-spiritual dilemma.
Even if you accept the SD theory, there are higher levels of consciousness which this man has not attained to yet. He is doing the best he can from his own level.
Well if someone is in such state that decides to throw themselves out of a window the best course of action is to call a proffessional. that is not spirituality that is a mental disorder.
@endofscene because if a person commits suicide she or he can't fix what is done. a thief could return what was stolen, a liar could say the truth but death is the end.
@allison8914 No one can ever undo what has been done. I do not consider death to be the end of life or consciousness as I believe in the 'hereafter'. That does mean that I feel people should be encouraged to die or that suicide and death should be treated lightly.
However, I was drawing your attention to the idea that being suicidal is a normal mental condition (something that many people have experienced at some time in their lives), and not necessarily indicitive of a "mental disorder".
@allison8914 Actually there is a lot of proof. Have you ever researched it or looked for proof? If you haven't researched the subject or even looked for proof, and then you just claim "there's no proof", it makes you look stupid.
@endofscene so what proof is there? if you ask me you sound more stupid. and in any case what does the person gain by this "spiritual awakening?" i know believing in an afterlife can be soothing and its belief has been indoctrinated in us since very young but there is no proof. so if you are going to reply that there is a lot of proof and actually don't mention even one is best if you don't reply.
@allison8914 Humans have believed in spirits and an afterlife since the beginning of time. It is only more recently, since the inception of organised religion, that some people have begun to question this. I didn't mention any examples of proof of the afterlife because the purpose of my comment was to show that you have never sought out any proof. You haven't bothered to do any research on the matter and yet you have the audacity to claim there is no proof. This is tomfoolery on your part.
@allison8914 And by the way that is what this video is about - spiritual evolution. That's why he keeps mentioning spiritual experiences and the development of consciousness. Spirituality is the belief in the human spirit as a transcendent reality and immortal being. The spirit evolves through the experiences of many lifetimes.
This guy is coming to the issue of bipolar disorder from a spiritual perspective.
@endofscene actually i don't have to proof that there is no afterlife because there is no way to prove it or disprove it. kind of like fairies. and for the record the one making the positive claim has the burden of proof.
@allison8914 I'm not saying you have to prove anything.
First of all you assert there is no proof of the afterlife, without even doing any research or conducting any experiments. Now you claim it is impossible to prove or disprove it. You are contradicting yourself.
For the record, I'm not trying to prove anything to you. I was responding to your initial comment that there is no proof of the afterlife by saying that you are wrong - there is actually a huge body of evidence in support of it.
@endofscene i am not contradicting myself because i said there is no proof since the beginning. i can't prove if there is or not the same way i can't prove or disprove fairies. in regards to evidence you don't have to supply any but since you said there is i am interested in knowing which. so far you are saying there is a huge body but you haven't mentioned one.
Thank goodness someone who is rational posted an appropriate message at the beginning of this video... acknowledging that this man although intelligent is clearly not rational enough to see his own shortcomings in his views and opinions he expresses which can simply be lack of maturity. Also, he assumes that mental illness means it is bad, mental illness does not mean the person is bad, it simply means that person needs help, THE RIGHT KIND OF HELP.
@masterspeck I didn't hear what you heard. He never said the person or the illness is bad. How is he not rational? Sounds pretty rational to me. Has his own opinions but so do you as do I.
This is awesome! I am a mental health therapist and I honestly do not fit well with traditional treatment. I struggled in finding the perfect position where I could incorporate my beliefs as well as what I learned in school. I am thankful I took my time in searching for the perfect position. I truly believe there are other ways of assisting humanity than with pharmaceuticals and conventional forms of healing. Thank you for sharing this... its wonderful to see how we're evolving as a society.
Brilliant approach, and well explained. Thanks, I am very grateful for your efforts, although 'effort' may not be the appropriate term since this is clearly a 'labor' of Love, so to speak.
Thank you for that very good intrepretation of a growing spiritual process that is unfortunatly labled as a mental illness since one may not fit in the common social behaviour picture.
The old mental worldview in one self has to get out of balance, being taughted, questioned and be shaken to make room for the new emerging state of consciousness.
And this new reality or worldview will stay for a while until it is replaced by a new one. Meditation makes the ride and transition less bumby.
very good series of videos, i believe bipolar is widely over prescribed and is a deeper issue that gets compressed into a little box in the corner of the closet that does not need to be ignored, but needs to be unleashed so that the box can destroy itself in whatever manner it chooses... so that the closet can then be used again. pills keep the box in the closet. so do traditional belief systems. i agree with this entire video series, thank you very much for making it, i have subscribed.
i have had v similar experiences to u i have had the psychosis and awakening which i am still trying to grasp the full meaning of also a sibling has bi-polar disorder she had it before me though and i had feelins that this may be the case that it was something spiritual that was shrowded by mondern medicine. also i am v intersted in your methods of just bein wit a person with psychosis and helping them throu episodes.
I feel I am in the post modern stage, and can only reach the "Power of now" stage occasionally. If I were to be in the now all the time, and give up the things you have to think about for the future, I wouldn't have a place to live or a job, would I?
@Illyria23alyssa No, not at all. 'Being in the now' does not mean you don't consider the future and set goals and make plans. Nor does it mean you don't remember the past, reminisce, and reflect on history. It just means you stop being Attached to the future and the past. This means you stop Needing the future to be a certain way, and incessantly thinking about it with anxiety. And you stop resenting the past and let go of your need for it to have been different or letting it ruin your present.
@endofscene Great answer. I think the video was not clear about that as if the writer assumed we know what "Beting in the now" means. What you just said is what should have been said in the video.
Been there, done that! I was on medication for years and really suffered. I knew I was not mad just spiritual. Why do people think you are mad because you want to love the world and everything in it. It would have been a wonderful experience without the medication that made me so ill. And yes a hug would have been nice! I think it is the world that is mad!
"Why do people think you are mad because you want to love the world and everything in it?"
Maybe because some people who are thought of as psychotic show aggression (towards themselves and others) and even want to kill themselves and or others.
@humanyoda That response is totally incongruous with what he/she said.
Besides, who isn't aggressive? Aggression is good. GRRRR! People who don't understand anger and aggression are suppressed. Watch out! YIKES! Eating meat is aggressive. I mean, you have to kill animals first. Watching an action movie is aggressive. I mean, why does it entertain you? Sex is often aggressive. Making money. Winning the race.
@humanyoda What this video is saying is that people who are suffering do better with understanding and acceptance, rather than 'diagnosis and treatment'. Think about it.
@humanyoda It's HIS decision, mate. I am not phased by death; not the death of myself or others. We live in a neurotic culture that is so divorced from the realities of life that death has become a taboo subject. Some people would advocate that people who are in severe and chronic pain due to a terminal illness should not be able to end their lives. This is ridiculous. Death is not the enemy. Death is not the huge deal that the mortal mind makes it out to be.
@humanyoda Death is something to be understood and embraced, rather than feared and vilified. Death is okay.
As for how I would handle an acutely suicidal person, I think it would depend on the context and how I felt at the time. I think there are many cases, I'm sure you can imagine them, where death is preferrable to life.
@humanyoda And in the cases where the person still has something to live for, then it is not enough to simply intervene in a suicide attempt, but to really understand their situation and get them the proper support, which is not necessarily psychiatric help. In fact, a lot of the time I think psychiatrists, like many doctors, end up making things worse. This is because they don't understand 'dis-ease'. And they don't understand 'disease' because they don't understand life itself.
@dunneism1 i agree with you .... for your answer on why they think we are mad for feeling these things .......... they are not ready. they cannot even begin to fathom the things you are describing.im sorry about you having to take meds but atleast you still got to keep your new insights wich is what i believe they try to make you forget with their silly drugs.isnt it funny .. they tell you drugs are bad but then pump you with them to "heal" you . only on planet earth huh ? lol
For example, you can actually be at a Traditional level of consciousness and still fully be in the present moment, even enlightened. The book Zen at War is a perfect example of this.
"[If ordered to] march: tramp tramp, or shoot: bang, bang. This is the manifestation of the highest Wisdom. The unity of Zen and war of which I speak extends to the farthest reaches of the holy war [the Japanese invasion of China.]"
@kasuskasus What you say is true, and the narrator didn't go into detail but, each level is necessary and beneficial. It is possible for a being to be based in level 7 or higher and yet seem to operate from a lower level. In such cases they are doing so for the benefit of those they seek to help.
I'm afraid you're confusing a higher LEVEL of consciousness - modern, post-modern, integral, etc - with a STATE of consciousness such as non-dual or formless being-awareness.
Ken Wilber used to commit this mistake as well, but corrected it in his recent book Integral Spirituality.
@zyghiwa Well, my question inferred the answer. If you include stage 8, then why not stage 9? And if 9 then why not 10? etc. as I said "it can go on forever". So the creator of the video dealt with the first cycle. I don't think the second cycle is a fully developed model anyway, as hardly anyone on earth is on those levels, if they do exist.
@endofscene One can include the whole theory that is known so far, and not just half of it. And one will do well to not make it seem as if being bi-polar is something that is part of human development. Meh, there is not enough space here to write down that which I had in mind anyway. I hope you will understand what I meant with this answer.
bipolar isnt just about happiness and depression...i can live in a depressive state without medication, its when that feeling leaves and the rush of euphoria, paranoia and extremely high levels of energy connect at the same time that bipolar becomes a problem.. you cant just snap out of it..il never forget my first manic episode, i was convinced someone slipped me some kind of stimulant drug, until it happened again a month later (scary stuff)
Let's all appreciate the insights and move forward with applying them to our own lives. Inspire people with truth which is always here waiting for us to notice.
Also he mentions when he's in a new city he's in the present moment, but how do you end up in a new city if you never think about the future. If level 7 people do think about the future, then why does he say they don/t. Why not use language as it is commonly used, so that regular people will understand it?
To understand what he means, recognize that when we're in the present moment things simply become clearer with less resistance to events. One still has the ability to act only there is a complete surrender to the process . Unfortunately we think we can control everything, when in actuality there is a flow that is taking place demanding our attention. Being in the moment is inspiring because we begin to notice more, which makes our ability to act more meaningful.
@Mystefier level 7 people do think about the future. if you want to learn more about 'being in the now' then perhaps you should read some books on the subject. it is not about not making plans or reflecting on the past.
Interesting. OK, there's some explanation that was left out here. He mentions anytime we get into project that we thought at first would be a lot of work but then we enjoy it we are living in the present moment; but the way the levels are explained, level 7 would never start a project that seems like a lot of work at first. I don't see how level 7 would ever start any project, because project involve thinking about the future.
Interesting point of view but a lot of sympthoms of a bipolar person are left out which are quite distroying for the person with bipolar disorder and others in his or her environment, like absuing drugs, violence and promiscuity.
thank you for these videos... wonderful way of looking at our mental/social evolution that makes sense. I've been striving for level 7 ever since I read "Powerofnow" and started studying Zen but I grew up with a bipolar father who goes into manic stages and seems to go into what I would describe as rants that make no sense like an alzheimer's patient on speed. It is hard for me to see them as being helped without lithium. He lives in a paranoid almost pyschotic world without it.
im constantly worrying about the future because of the past and rarely live in the present moment, its like whenever i think enough about something to get past it i come up with something else from the past and dwell on that until its conclusion, so this is normal for bi-polar people?
No question, the most effective treatment for a mental disorder will come, eventual, from within.
A person having a psychotic episode doesn't have to be in the present moment. You can be in the past present and future all at the same time even.
This guy Sean is a clear example of why we have professionals. This absolutely absurd, dangerous, and insulting. Medication may not always be the answer, but these aren't spiritual episode, they are a biochemical malfunction that need acknowledgement.
Thank you Sean for this. I have a feeling The System will make an attempt to take these vids off here, tho. I'm glad you covered your butt with the disclaimer. Don't let them beat you.
I used to do this for a living. I was a Peer Specialist for a Peer-run Support Center in my town. But a break-up with a man last New Years pushed me over the edge and I am now too sick to work. Now, I spend most of my time giving myself what I gave others for two years at WAY less than $10 an hour.
I then began to heal myself through sharring my views with others who were suffering. It worked, each time I made new realizations of advice I should have been taking myself. I took control of my feelings, thoughts, and my actions/reactions. Today I only live in a state of happiness, curiosity, and gratitude. I found NLP and hypnosis, which kept my progress moving in the right direction. I always believed bipolar was a biproduct of evolution, and it's funny cuz today I am diagnosed psych healthy
good for you sexy...im on the exact same road you took to happiness..my problem is when i lose my happiness, i go nuts..i dont wanna live my life on drugs..i stopped taking lexapro, but still need xanax to sleep...can i have some of that advice you like give out??
After years of being over medicated and going through therapist after therapist, I got my head outta my ass. I decided to take back control of my life, and leave the illness for the docs to look after. My docs went nuts trying to getme back on meds because they believed it was dangerous for me to be off of them. I began by healing my depression. I thought about the happiest moment I was experiencing in the now, and I decided from that point on that no moment or person could take it from me!
This was a fantastic miniseries of videos! I was considered to be "bipolar" until I was 21. I always believed I was God, and I had the power to control my life and the world around me with my thoughts. When I was 16 a psych diagnosed me bipolar, and called that grandious feeling a disorder. I always disagreed, until I went through a traumatizing experience that pushed me to the edge of my psychosis. I live in that here and now of dwelling in the past for 1 1/2 yrs.
The labels and the drugs may be imperfect; but there is real mental illness out there that is dangerous. Why should a person who's delusional and unpredictable be "validated"? Our best hope is to improve psychiatry, not shun it. Do away with your archaic dualism and focus on the brain, the seat of it all.
Take some time to learn something about hypnosis and NLP, the real sciences of psychiatry! You will thank me later & avoid looking like a fool by making future similar comments. I only mention cuz I care.
@dalpaugh its about bipolar tho thats not really seen to be dangerous, the danger comes when people re told that something is desperately wrong with them and they are told to take drugs wich can ultimatley make them feel bad about themselves ive been living with bipolar all my life and in general it makes me more apethetic and quiet, i live through the bad times and know the good will come, i have never had any treatment as i always knew the doctors dont truly understand, i see it as a positive
well said vids however i dont see the connection in my level of consciousness, related to my bi polar disorder..great vids for HEALTHY minds in distress..when im in an elevated mood i cant process the thought of "live in the now"..my future, past and "now" thoughts cycle out of control to the point of extreme depression..depression is the awful times of bipolar..without a will to live you dont really have any level of consciousness
Good comparison. I think volunteers are actively looking for ways to help. They seem to pay attention. Also they are excited to be doing something no one else is doing. Paid professionals tend to fill time doing things people in their profession do.
So in context w/ what youre saying, I believe, generally speaking, volunteers can get away with just listening, paid professionals seem to feel a need to diagnose.
I love the work I do with hypnosis, let the subconscious mind heal itself. It works
For the first time in these two years which I have been here in Youtube listening to a video like these...it is so easy... without needing to push myself to the limit in understanding (both in understanding the language.. thank u for easily understood english... and understanding the message itself... this is so clear spoken here...thank´s to the person(s) who made this video...)
Great Vid! I have bipolar disorder! I can really relate to it. I have learned to embrace my mania, but you have to be careful and know how to control it but don't let it control you. If anyone out there has bipolar and needs any advice on how to deal, let me know!
Very interesting! I feel like I've always been in the now very easily... my mother gave me a strong example of that.
I believe we are so ruining our world that we are even forced to explore the one part of us that God created our life to flow from. This is also the one part of us that cannot be truly satisfied without God.
2) interesting to rename Integral level "power of now" - I think this violates the wilber combs lattice (tolle is talking about a state not a stage) - "power of now" can come at any stage
but otherwise, I enjoyed this and appreciate this.
1) "higher" is not "Better" (comparing kindergarten with grad school)... but higher levels (or rather more complex) are simply belief/value systems which are adapting to a new more complex
situation. A problem which was caused by the prior level's (failed) attempt at solution! if a level is working, why "evolve" - we move to the next level if/when we see it's not working!
This is cool..I saw it happen to my friend. She handled it the way the narrator did. I was there to support. I was meditating alot at the time so felt peaceful and secure enough to do it. Shes fully recovered and very strong spiritually.
I have seen my file... It makes absolutely no sense at all. It describes nothing of what happened to me. It has some strange writing in it... thats about it. I think it maps out what I remember from my childhood... but the doctors dont let me see it. I think when I am in one of these episodes... the doctors dont really listen to anything I say.
visatrade 2 weeks ago
Be. In the moment, right? Cannot be done. If you've thought about it enough you will understand exactly what I'm saying, if you don't already. That is, if you've been "bipolar-enlightened". Or maybe that's why you think being in the moment is going to heal BP. I admire your devotion to Tolle. But you'll never be able to squeeze yourself between the past and the future (I know, the future doesn't exist, but that makes it even harder), not until the day you die. But whatever turns you one...
JACkory 3 weeks ago
how does bipolar/personality disorders- connect with suicide- and healing? cutting etc...?
iclandgirl 2 months ago
I have no concerns. I already found my answers. So, ready for this world change too. I just love watching others define the truth in their own perspective. It brings you into the moment when you talk about it.
OpenthePresentNow 2 months ago
Present moment, ah now it's gone and I cant type fast enough to catch it. Wow I cant believe I said that but I've gotta push the post button!
OpenthePresentNow 2 months ago
Mothers understand, that sometimes when you watch your child playing, you realize how beautiful this moment is and you get emotional. Men, thats why women are very emotional creatures. We are more connected to the present moment. Check out this "truth contest", google it.
OpenthePresentNow 2 months ago
95% OF PLANET IS BIPOLAR ALL DOCTORS LAWYER JUDGES GOVERMENTS
jshankakanyce 3 months ago in playlist More videos from psychetruth
what song is that at the end!?!?!?!
sphynx105 3 months ago
It's hard to generalize about these things. There may be cases where this approach may be helpful but in others it may not. Every person, every situation is different. I have a friend who has struggled with bipolar disorder and psychotic breaks for many years. At times the best thing he could do is medicate. Later he found help through spiritual means to an extent, but sometimes people really have to work through a lot of negativity and confusion before they can even think about anything else.
spacecase8888 4 months ago in playlist Spiral Dynamics Integral (SDi)
the video froze at 3:14 when he was talking about the present moment which made me look around the room away from my monitor which felt like an extremely wierd coincidence
Jags2468 4 months ago
@Jags2468 nothing is coincidence my friend. "Everything happen for a reason" I've always said that, now I know it.
OpenthePresentNow 2 months ago
@Jags2468 it was a "sign" to you from the divine ! :DD
itsAndrogyn 1 month ago
I think that while the spiritual crisis approach can help some people find hope and strength it can also be damaging to imply someone is evolving when they feel like shit. I was already predisposed to think of my own crisis on spiritual terms, when it occurred. However, it was a time of extreme fear and suffering and everyone around me was trying to tell me to just relax and accept it and would pass, and I wasn't able to, causing self-doubt and hatred. So to truly be with someone accept THAT.
pennyscout 5 months ago
I believe real love is achieved by those that are willing to try to stay in the present moment. I have seen major improvements in someone, once they were accepted and loved as they were, and assisted through difficult times, without trying to change them.
meandolg 6 months ago
this series helped me be more understanding to those who I percieved to punish me my spiritual emergency. Level up!
OpiatedBliss 6 months ago in playlist subconscious
After I had the experience, when I was 25, the power of now was the first book I had read in years. Sound like a promoter? Well, to be honest, I have problems with some of his opinion, but the book seriously helped me to step away from the inner conflict and just be in the now, observing things for what they were and appreciating their use. Glad I found this series. Thanks.
bavwill 7 months ago
@bavwill yo dude i had read the power of now about 3 times and tried to live in the moment for up to a year, at which point i had a manic episode....total truth in what your saying. I'd be glad to hear more about your experience.
Jags2468 4 months ago
Level 8 to me will be a movement of The Power of Now or more accurately described as faith (not as a church word, farmers have faith why else would they put seed on the ground?)
But it will also have Power of Purpose behind it. That's just my belief. I don't think it's good enough to "JUST BE" and "DO NOTHING"
However, I see you've put a lot of thought into this so kudos to you for some interesting insights.
ThriceP86 8 months ago
My mother has been schizophrenic for almost 5 years... no meds, just a case worker that checks up on her. This "power of now" is easier said than done. I do believe spirituality is better than medication but I also know she will die a schizophrenic. Anyone who wants to prove me wrong is more than welcome to give it a try. Truely, if you think you have the answer I will get in contact with you. I know bipolar is different than schizophrenia and this addresses the former... I have a dilemma now.
warriorlinguist 9 months ago
wow. i was reading "the power of now" when I went through a big episode that lasted about 3 months. i'm an artist, so i had an urge to draw, and the first thing i drew was a spiral that went up.
AlineCuisine 9 months ago
wow. "hereness and nowness" is one of the topic which is often discussed by some Japanese contemporary philosophers. Interesting, thank you.
coffeebreakist 10 months ago
Wow, this is amazing! I worked at a nursing home that had lots of elderly that were in psychosis and I did just what you said on here. I did not attempt to change it, I just helped them have it. Great video!
changingmyself 11 months ago
Beautifully articulated! The work you are doing is very important. Good luck.
Douggernaut12 11 months ago
What a load of bull. Cant believe i wasted 30 mins of my life
stranger0198 11 months ago
please someone will run Right for his work
youtub23410 11 months ago
I find this video oversimplified and far more focused on ideas of change than on any specific illness.
LunaSeaSane 1 year ago
'Just Being' Remarkably simple and gratifying until you realize that it's incredibly boring and pointless.
81stReich 1 year ago
try to BE with a bipolar in his/her manic phase...then try it again and you'll need a doctor yourself! :) This can only be possible if almost everybody is in the NOW!
chockfish 1 year ago
try to BE with a bipolar in his/her manic phase...then try it again and you'll need a doctor yourself! :)
chockfish 1 year ago
Apart from some of the new age paradigm bullshit; a LOT of good points here!
I've seen both sides, people in normal crisis defined as "sick" and messed up bad by psychiatry, and others who where so ill (Not just in a temporary crisis) and needed all the help they could get.
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dj02tc5 1 year ago
This is a dangerous video for someone who is actually ill. While "just being" is certainly an attractive idea, it really is not appropriately addressed in the context of Bipolar Disorder in these videos. The connection with Bipolar disorder was never actually made, other than it's potential relationship with level of consciousness. The videos are oversimplified and very general. Just being with someone in a psychotic state may be nice, but it doesn't get them out of it.
Kaytee100 1 year ago
@Kaytee100 i think that the person must have work done on the inside of their self to be healed. just being with someone who is schitzophrenic may be a kind gesture but they probably will continue to see people?
Itsfaith33 1 year ago
@Kaytee100 I completely agree with you. If you read my post below you will understand why I am siding with you. These individuals that went through a "couple months" of spiritual awakening have no clue what it is like to ride this rodeo your whole life. Before my mother become schizophrenic there were all sorts of other problems that I had to live with in my childhood before the real illness set on. Yes, spiritual enlightenment helped me cope but will not save her from dying mentally ill.
warriorlinguist 9 months ago
Man, the title didn't convince me to click this link, it was actually the girls picture that did it for me (cheap trick), but i can't find her, instead there's a lobotamy picture, heh?
DaZeDmerlin 1 year ago
Although, i agree about that part on pro vs non pro. The attitude of "i know your sick, your sick" of many doctors while your in a manic-psychotic state is actually quite traumatic and damaging. It's idiotic to try and convince someone that their world view it entirely wrong. I know they were right today, but i still think that the approach was extremely stupid.
Dumass88 1 year ago
Well, modern psychology doesn't subscribe to Freuds psychodynamic model in these diseases anymore. This changes about 10 years ago when it got replaced with CBT(cognitive behavioral therapy) and neuropsychology... bad exampel dude.
Dumass88 1 year ago
bi polar must be different for people. i thought i was going crazy at one point then i learned to balance my emotions and found freedom and happiness. i live in pure bliss everyday. howv do i feel this good sobar. my dreams are dead strong aswel. anyone any idears what happened to me. off the infom\ation over 4 year am pushed towards am spiritly free enjoying life to thew max
garryhunter180 1 year ago
i was also on pills for years, when I figured out that I was The Fool, and had to take the leap of faith to begin my spiritual awakening.
No meds, all good
doesthismakeanysense 1 year ago
denial lessens psychic energy
positive deceptions not always helpful
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RUSSKAYAG 1 year ago
bullshit. im bipolar and my disorder is in no way spiritual. what's so spiritual about being depressed for three days? my mania isn't spiritual either. it feels more like doing 5 or 6 lines of coke. i start fucking with ppl, playing head games, and manipulating ppl for sheer fun. dont get me wrong, i enjoy being manic, but it is in no way spiritual. when i take my meds its like im not even bipolar.
Punkandfunk420 1 year ago
*left hand corner
nicklofton 1 year ago
i´m from argentina, i want to congratulate you for your video, i consider everything you say is true, not because your saying it, but because i ve lived it.
i also want to tell you that im an enthusiast reader of the tao te king, i read it several times, and i have found very interesting, to change the word tao for love, every time it appears in the book. its a nice experience. thank you, greetings! pablo
pabloperezvenini 1 year ago
Freud was a Frankenstein who created a monsterous psychotherapy called psychoanalysis. He was a genius none the less. But being a genius and getting things right dont always go together. Consider Artistotle; another genius who got almost everything he wrote about wrong.
Drastam 1 year ago
@Drastam Humans are meant to be flawed. psychoanalysis is meant to find that flaw. it seems plausible if that flaw cured it will manifest itself in further problems. with this science there is no growth. But is everyone capable of growth. i would rather alleviate their pain.
foxleyleon 1 year ago
@foxleyleon Hi :) I have read your comment several times and I find it to be a remarkable expression of the upside-downness of the psychoanalytic philosophy and practice. It is so 'wrong' that I could not begin to comment.
Drastam 1 year ago
if you spend much time with people with psychosis .. it can have a really bad effect on you! .. this implies you are well off and have time/financial freedom.. no?
Fraterculae 1 year ago
This is most magnificently information, I could have helped a person who took his life.
TheWayshowerTube 1 year ago
This is incredible.
I went through a spiritual emergency six months ago and now fully appreciate what happened. I now realise it is a part of growth and not a reason to lock up and medicate people.
Thank you for the uploads.
Tony S
PaganMan1966 1 year ago
I suspect that it's some form of lowered inhibition of talking about one's perceptions and a lack of being able to recognize the difference between you and others at that point, or even care, with mania
noobler9 1 year ago
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wize11 1 year ago
hugs help :(
THEpillows100 1 year ago
youtube . com
/watch?v=WzNwLvsA87E&feature=related
there you go! all about bipolar
I think delusions and psychiosis is more something like schizophrenia
how did the video maker miss this?
if your psychs said it was BP then WOW you must've met terrible psychs, I've never heard of anyone who knows anything about psych to link BP to psychosis, with exception to the depressive stage, and the way psychs treat that is say, "really now, is that a justified negative depiction of yourself?"
noobler9 1 year ago
@noobler9 Eh, manic phase of BP can cause psychotic breaks. The worse the manic behavior, the more likely the psychosis.
Kallistos1 1 year ago
a lot of people understand sonof, they just don't believe it to be the most accurate model to use, so they don't use it
this confuses you, stick to the method you know, while it IS true that their ideas and notions may not be helpful, remember that most of the time when someone DOES understand the other person, they forget the other person doesn't understand THEM
and when they do complain someone else doesn't understand, it's THEMSELVES who don't understand the other
usually, so do what you know
noobler9 1 year ago
what that means is that I feel you are subjecting others to your point of view as authoritative on the matter, and as such, can not see the reason for materialistic viewpoints, I feel that this may be some of the reason for your crisis in the first place
I feel that you can't function in the "materialistic" setting, because you lack the capability to understand stuff at that level, not hierarchical levels, but a subjective form of levels
and so you rely on the more basic methods, which work too
noobler9 1 year ago
my recommendation is that people do not take this literally unless they already agree with it, if one is unsure, keep an open mind and realize that this speaks to people on a non-logical/rational level in many forms, if one is to take it at face value, they will gain nothing from it, some are incapable of this so this video will speak to them in the desireable manner, however someone like me doesn't need to, even though I can
I am saying this because I feel you are doing what the 5's "did"
noobler9 1 year ago
in other words, different aspects of everyone, have been taken, and ordered as a hierarchy, for what reason I do not know, however you're using it as if to compensate for a complex or lack of confidence, some people can't understand in a rational/logical manner certain things, I think you are one of those people, you relate to it as a 1-3 would, the 6 is the self you can place above those others, and the 7 is the mary sue so you can say "no look see I don't think I'm perfect"
my recommendation~
noobler9 1 year ago
cognitive therapy is about trying to help work out personal issues and crises without medication, while making sense
I suspect that some psychosis related stuff is merely the brain shutting down for maintenance and reordering itself to some degree cognitively
I maintain that you are delusional about what happened, but that irregardless, it worked for you, and that pretty much anyone has this sort of framework possibly built into them, some don't need it though, your hierachy is a trait blob!
noobler9 1 year ago
I ate muggers once without realizing that's what they were until I ate 2 small ones, and then I decided to eat some more because if I was going to have the event anyways, I might as well make it something, the dissociative was rather intersting and I liked it, it pretty much cleared my mind very nicely of any clutter, internal strife is an ordering of priorities error basically, and believe that those meds were not for bipolar...
Bipolar_disorder Signs_and_symptoms on wikipedia
noobler9 1 year ago
sounds like AA / NA to me, (don't worry about the tomarrow' it's not here yet,dont worry about the past because it's gone, but enjoy the present becuse it's a gift)
necropolian1 1 year ago
@necropolian1 Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mistery but today is a gift, that's why it's called present.Yea, well, that's also the Mindfulness phillosophy, live in the now.
DaZeDmerlin 1 year ago
BE... without judgement
2JOHNNYT 1 year ago
What is the broader purpose of autism then? I have Asperger's and ADD and so far I have been struggling with feelings of guilt and inadequacy. I'm not sure what my gifts are yet. What is the role of autistic people?
Chizpurfle52595 1 year ago
@Chizpurfle52595 that's different, surely this guy isn't saying every mental health issue has a meaning and purpose and place in the structure of life... people have problems beyond that, as with any disability, I'd say this was, as broad as his words are, this is a fairly narrow phenomenon,
ofdarknessandlight 1 year ago
I'm in the present moment when I pick my children up late for school.
xxdiogenescynicxx 1 year ago
I agree that living in the now is the way to truly experience reality for what it is, and that modern society has manifested in such a way that it makes us worry about the future, feel guilty for the past and forget about the present, but I have a lot of trouble accepting that bipolar is in fact some sort of a spiritual awakening. Who knows, maybe I've been brainwashed by modern society, perhaps I'd need to experience it myself or talk to others in person who have, but that's just my opinion.
OxiDemonik 1 year ago
@OxiDemonik Bipolar is not a spiritual awakening. This man is making a huge over-generalisation. There are some cases where the person with bipolar (or more to the point - psychosis) is involved in a psycho-spiritual dilemma.
Even if you accept the SD theory, there are higher levels of consciousness which this man has not attained to yet. He is doing the best he can from his own level.
endofscene 1 year ago
Well if someone is in such state that decides to throw themselves out of a window the best course of action is to call a proffessional. that is not spirituality that is a mental disorder.
allison8914 1 year ago
@allison8914 Why is being suicidal a mental disorder?
endofscene 1 year ago
@endofscene because if a person commits suicide she or he can't fix what is done. a thief could return what was stolen, a liar could say the truth but death is the end.
allison8914 1 year ago
@allison8914 No one can ever undo what has been done. I do not consider death to be the end of life or consciousness as I believe in the 'hereafter'. That does mean that I feel people should be encouraged to die or that suicide and death should be treated lightly.
However, I was drawing your attention to the idea that being suicidal is a normal mental condition (something that many people have experienced at some time in their lives), and not necessarily indicitive of a "mental disorder".
endofscene 1 year ago
@endofscene well there is no proof at all of an afterlife so i'm basing myself on what is known.
allison8914 1 year ago
@allison8914 Actually there is a lot of proof. Have you ever researched it or looked for proof? If you haven't researched the subject or even looked for proof, and then you just claim "there's no proof", it makes you look stupid.
endofscene 1 year ago
@endofscene so what proof is there? if you ask me you sound more stupid. and in any case what does the person gain by this "spiritual awakening?" i know believing in an afterlife can be soothing and its belief has been indoctrinated in us since very young but there is no proof. so if you are going to reply that there is a lot of proof and actually don't mention even one is best if you don't reply.
allison8914 1 year ago
@allison8914 Humans have believed in spirits and an afterlife since the beginning of time. It is only more recently, since the inception of organised religion, that some people have begun to question this. I didn't mention any examples of proof of the afterlife because the purpose of my comment was to show that you have never sought out any proof. You haven't bothered to do any research on the matter and yet you have the audacity to claim there is no proof. This is tomfoolery on your part.
endofscene 1 year ago
@allison8914 But since you've asked I'm happy to give you one example. Check out victorzammit dot c o m /book/4theditionchapter14.h t m l
endofscene 1 year ago
@allison8914 And by the way that is what this video is about - spiritual evolution. That's why he keeps mentioning spiritual experiences and the development of consciousness. Spirituality is the belief in the human spirit as a transcendent reality and immortal being. The spirit evolves through the experiences of many lifetimes.
This guy is coming to the issue of bipolar disorder from a spiritual perspective.
endofscene 1 year ago
@endofscene actually i don't have to proof that there is no afterlife because there is no way to prove it or disprove it. kind of like fairies. and for the record the one making the positive claim has the burden of proof.
allison8914 1 year ago
@allison8914 I'm not saying you have to prove anything.
First of all you assert there is no proof of the afterlife, without even doing any research or conducting any experiments. Now you claim it is impossible to prove or disprove it. You are contradicting yourself.
For the record, I'm not trying to prove anything to you. I was responding to your initial comment that there is no proof of the afterlife by saying that you are wrong - there is actually a huge body of evidence in support of it.
endofscene 1 year ago
@endofscene i am not contradicting myself because i said there is no proof since the beginning. i can't prove if there is or not the same way i can't prove or disprove fairies. in regards to evidence you don't have to supply any but since you said there is i am interested in knowing which. so far you are saying there is a huge body but you haven't mentioned one.
allison8914 1 year ago
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@allison8914 I did mention one. I'll re-post it for you.
@allison8914 But since you've asked I'm happy to give you one example. Check out victorzammit dot c o m /book/4theditionchapter14.h t m l
endofscene 1 year ago
Thank goodness someone who is rational posted an appropriate message at the beginning of this video... acknowledging that this man although intelligent is clearly not rational enough to see his own shortcomings in his views and opinions he expresses which can simply be lack of maturity. Also, he assumes that mental illness means it is bad, mental illness does not mean the person is bad, it simply means that person needs help, THE RIGHT KIND OF HELP.
masterspeck 1 year ago
@masterspeck I didn't hear what you heard. He never said the person or the illness is bad. How is he not rational? Sounds pretty rational to me. Has his own opinions but so do you as do I.
maitrimorningstar 1 year ago
@masterspeck What is the right kind of help?
endofscene 1 year ago
This is awesome! I am a mental health therapist and I honestly do not fit well with traditional treatment. I struggled in finding the perfect position where I could incorporate my beliefs as well as what I learned in school. I am thankful I took my time in searching for the perfect position. I truly believe there are other ways of assisting humanity than with pharmaceuticals and conventional forms of healing. Thank you for sharing this... its wonderful to see how we're evolving as a society.
Snaisy 1 year ago
thank you
TheStormwater8888 1 year ago
very enlightening
catbeht 1 year ago
Excellent stuff!
themetalicarus 1 year ago
Brilliant approach, and well explained. Thanks, I am very grateful for your efforts, although 'effort' may not be the appropriate term since this is clearly a 'labor' of Love, so to speak.
Peace.
nowenterpsie 1 year ago
Thank you for that very good intrepretation of a growing spiritual process that is unfortunatly labled as a mental illness since one may not fit in the common social behaviour picture.
The old mental worldview in one self has to get out of balance, being taughted, questioned and be shaken to make room for the new emerging state of consciousness.
And this new reality or worldview will stay for a while until it is replaced by a new one. Meditation makes the ride and transition less bumby.
MrAllAndNothing 1 year ago 4
very good series of videos, i believe bipolar is widely over prescribed and is a deeper issue that gets compressed into a little box in the corner of the closet that does not need to be ignored, but needs to be unleashed so that the box can destroy itself in whatever manner it chooses... so that the closet can then be used again. pills keep the box in the closet. so do traditional belief systems. i agree with this entire video series, thank you very much for making it, i have subscribed.
classicalheartburn 1 year ago 2
i have had v similar experiences to u i have had the psychosis and awakening which i am still trying to grasp the full meaning of also a sibling has bi-polar disorder she had it before me though and i had feelins that this may be the case that it was something spiritual that was shrowded by mondern medicine. also i am v intersted in your methods of just bein wit a person with psychosis and helping them throu episodes.
dunkknud 1 year ago 2
Brilliant. A very enlightening series, thoroughly enjoyed and got a lot from all 3
yozeroz 1 year ago
I feel I am in the post modern stage, and can only reach the "Power of now" stage occasionally. If I were to be in the now all the time, and give up the things you have to think about for the future, I wouldn't have a place to live or a job, would I?
Illyria23alyssa 1 year ago
If that is what you believe, then that is why you fail
LANDO10000 1 year ago
@Illyria23alyssa No, not at all. 'Being in the now' does not mean you don't consider the future and set goals and make plans. Nor does it mean you don't remember the past, reminisce, and reflect on history. It just means you stop being Attached to the future and the past. This means you stop Needing the future to be a certain way, and incessantly thinking about it with anxiety. And you stop resenting the past and let go of your need for it to have been different or letting it ruin your present.
endofscene 1 year ago
@endofscene Great answer. I think the video was not clear about that as if the writer assumed we know what "Beting in the now" means. What you just said is what should have been said in the video.
Mystefier 1 year ago
be in the now.
red5media 1 year ago 5
Been there, done that! I was on medication for years and really suffered. I knew I was not mad just spiritual. Why do people think you are mad because you want to love the world and everything in it. It would have been a wonderful experience without the medication that made me so ill. And yes a hug would have been nice! I think it is the world that is mad!
dunneism1 2 years ago 23
@dunneism1
"Why do people think you are mad because you want to love the world and everything in it?"
Maybe because some people who are thought of as psychotic show aggression (towards themselves and others) and even want to kill themselves and or others.
humanyoda 1 year ago
@humanyoda That response is totally incongruous with what he/she said.
Besides, who isn't aggressive? Aggression is good. GRRRR! People who don't understand anger and aggression are suppressed. Watch out! YIKES! Eating meat is aggressive. I mean, you have to kill animals first. Watching an action movie is aggressive. I mean, why does it entertain you? Sex is often aggressive. Making money. Winning the race.
endofscene 1 year ago
@humanyoda What this video is saying is that people who are suffering do better with understanding and acceptance, rather than 'diagnosis and treatment'. Think about it.
endofscene 1 year ago
@endofscene So, if someone wants to kills himself (really) and is preparing to do so, what will you do? Stand by and accept?
humanyoda 1 year ago
@humanyoda It's HIS decision, mate. I am not phased by death; not the death of myself or others. We live in a neurotic culture that is so divorced from the realities of life that death has become a taboo subject. Some people would advocate that people who are in severe and chronic pain due to a terminal illness should not be able to end their lives. This is ridiculous. Death is not the enemy. Death is not the huge deal that the mortal mind makes it out to be.
endofscene 1 year ago
@humanyoda Death is something to be understood and embraced, rather than feared and vilified. Death is okay.
As for how I would handle an acutely suicidal person, I think it would depend on the context and how I felt at the time. I think there are many cases, I'm sure you can imagine them, where death is preferrable to life.
endofscene 1 year ago
@humanyoda And in the cases where the person still has something to live for, then it is not enough to simply intervene in a suicide attempt, but to really understand their situation and get them the proper support, which is not necessarily psychiatric help. In fact, a lot of the time I think psychiatrists, like many doctors, end up making things worse. This is because they don't understand 'dis-ease'. And they don't understand 'disease' because they don't understand life itself.
endofscene 1 year ago
@humanyoda At the end of the day you can't stop someone who is hell-bent on killing themselves. They will eventually find a way.
endofscene 1 year ago
Youu compleatly understand me ,<3
xoxoriana 1 year ago
@dunneism1 i agree with you .... for your answer on why they think we are mad for feeling these things .......... they are not ready. they cannot even begin to fathom the things you are describing.im sorry about you having to take meds but atleast you still got to keep your new insights wich is what i believe they try to make you forget with their silly drugs.isnt it funny .. they tell you drugs are bad but then pump you with them to "heal" you . only on planet earth huh ? lol
sonofcreator2 1 year ago
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dunneism1 2 years ago
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tranquilbluesky 2 years ago
thats the point......
TheFelixxRevolution 2 years ago
@tranquilbluesky level 7 is self-centred. You are probably on a non-self, such as 6.
endofscene 1 year ago
i can be both depressed and euphoric at the same time lol
cjellwood 2 years ago
yay, nice videO :)
burningmanheartbeat 2 years ago
For example, you can actually be at a Traditional level of consciousness and still fully be in the present moment, even enlightened. The book Zen at War is a perfect example of this.
"[If ordered to] march: tramp tramp, or shoot: bang, bang. This is the manifestation of the highest Wisdom. The unity of Zen and war of which I speak extends to the farthest reaches of the holy war [the Japanese invasion of China.]"
kasuskasus 2 years ago
@kasuskasus What you say is true, and the narrator didn't go into detail but, each level is necessary and beneficial. It is possible for a being to be based in level 7 or higher and yet seem to operate from a lower level. In such cases they are doing so for the benefit of those they seek to help.
endofscene 1 year ago
I'm afraid you're confusing a higher LEVEL of consciousness - modern, post-modern, integral, etc - with a STATE of consciousness such as non-dual or formless being-awareness.
Ken Wilber used to commit this mistake as well, but corrected it in his recent book Integral Spirituality.
kasuskasus 2 years ago
Why was stage 8 left out?
zyghiwa 2 years ago
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JazzyJonas 2 years ago
Well, there is stage 9 too (coral) :/
zyghiwa 2 years ago
@zyghiwa because it can go on forever
endofscene 1 year ago
@endofscene yes it can and it (probably) will but it doen't answer my question.
zyghiwa 1 year ago
@zyghiwa Well, my question inferred the answer. If you include stage 8, then why not stage 9? And if 9 then why not 10? etc. as I said "it can go on forever". So the creator of the video dealt with the first cycle. I don't think the second cycle is a fully developed model anyway, as hardly anyone on earth is on those levels, if they do exist.
endofscene 1 year ago
@endofscene One can include the whole theory that is known so far, and not just half of it. And one will do well to not make it seem as if being bi-polar is something that is part of human development. Meh, there is not enough space here to write down that which I had in mind anyway. I hope you will understand what I meant with this answer.
zyghiwa 1 year ago
bipolar people have a need to feel like they are better than everyone else. hence the hierarchy which places spiritual psychosis at the top.
substatique 2 years ago
@substatique lol
endofscene 1 year ago
there is no reason to do anything, we can die when ever we wish, or be happy in any circumstance, its all in your power...
stormyrose 2 years ago
bipolar isnt just about happiness and depression...i can live in a depressive state without medication, its when that feeling leaves and the rush of euphoria, paranoia and extremely high levels of energy connect at the same time that bipolar becomes a problem.. you cant just snap out of it..il never forget my first manic episode, i was convinced someone slipped me some kind of stimulant drug, until it happened again a month later (scary stuff)
bobdacreepable 2 years ago
live or die. keep quiet
stormyrose 2 years ago
oo weird. last time i was in the hospital i talked to a student nurse most of the time...heh.
Noyru 2 years ago
Let's all appreciate the insights and move forward with applying them to our own lives. Inspire people with truth which is always here waiting for us to notice.
bowlofsuf 2 years ago
Also he mentions when he's in a new city he's in the present moment, but how do you end up in a new city if you never think about the future. If level 7 people do think about the future, then why does he say they don/t. Why not use language as it is commonly used, so that regular people will understand it?
Mystefier 2 years ago
To understand what he means, recognize that when we're in the present moment things simply become clearer with less resistance to events. One still has the ability to act only there is a complete surrender to the process . Unfortunately we think we can control everything, when in actuality there is a flow that is taking place demanding our attention. Being in the moment is inspiring because we begin to notice more, which makes our ability to act more meaningful.
bowlofsuf 2 years ago
@Mystefier level 7 people do think about the future. if you want to learn more about 'being in the now' then perhaps you should read some books on the subject. it is not about not making plans or reflecting on the past.
endofscene 1 year ago
Interesting. OK, there's some explanation that was left out here. He mentions anytime we get into project that we thought at first would be a lot of work but then we enjoy it we are living in the present moment; but the way the levels are explained, level 7 would never start a project that seems like a lot of work at first. I don't see how level 7 would ever start any project, because project involve thinking about the future.
Mystefier 2 years ago
Interesting point of view but a lot of sympthoms of a bipolar person are left out which are quite distroying for the person with bipolar disorder and others in his or her environment, like absuing drugs, violence and promiscuity.
KrisztaMurty 2 years ago
thank you for these videos... wonderful way of looking at our mental/social evolution that makes sense. I've been striving for level 7 ever since I read "Powerofnow" and started studying Zen but I grew up with a bipolar father who goes into manic stages and seems to go into what I would describe as rants that make no sense like an alzheimer's patient on speed. It is hard for me to see them as being helped without lithium. He lives in a paranoid almost pyschotic world without it.
Jamesparker19751975 2 years ago
great video, thanks :)
ILLER121 2 years ago
im constantly worrying about the future because of the past and rarely live in the present moment, its like whenever i think enough about something to get past it i come up with something else from the past and dwell on that until its conclusion, so this is normal for bi-polar people?
AlmostFamous2009 2 years ago
The whole concept of the Tao Te Ching is about ''doing nothing!'' =)
Jouz92 2 years ago
great video...still incomplete though....thanx neways.
7ctebo 2 years ago
No question, the most effective treatment for a mental disorder will come, eventual, from within.
A person having a psychotic episode doesn't have to be in the present moment. You can be in the past present and future all at the same time even.
This guy Sean is a clear example of why we have professionals. This absolutely absurd, dangerous, and insulting. Medication may not always be the answer, but these aren't spiritual episode, they are a biochemical malfunction that need acknowledgement.
nstgc379 2 years ago 3
Thank you Sean for this. I have a feeling The System will make an attempt to take these vids off here, tho. I'm glad you covered your butt with the disclaimer. Don't let them beat you.
I used to do this for a living. I was a Peer Specialist for a Peer-run Support Center in my town. But a break-up with a man last New Years pushed me over the edge and I am now too sick to work. Now, I spend most of my time giving myself what I gave others for two years at WAY less than $10 an hour.
L00kng 2 years ago
I then began to heal myself through sharring my views with others who were suffering. It worked, each time I made new realizations of advice I should have been taking myself. I took control of my feelings, thoughts, and my actions/reactions. Today I only live in a state of happiness, curiosity, and gratitude. I found NLP and hypnosis, which kept my progress moving in the right direction. I always believed bipolar was a biproduct of evolution, and it's funny cuz today I am diagnosed psych healthy
SexyWifey135 2 years ago
good for you sexy...im on the exact same road you took to happiness..my problem is when i lose my happiness, i go nuts..i dont wanna live my life on drugs..i stopped taking lexapro, but still need xanax to sleep...can i have some of that advice you like give out??
bobdacreepable 2 years ago
After years of being over medicated and going through therapist after therapist, I got my head outta my ass. I decided to take back control of my life, and leave the illness for the docs to look after. My docs went nuts trying to getme back on meds because they believed it was dangerous for me to be off of them. I began by healing my depression. I thought about the happiest moment I was experiencing in the now, and I decided from that point on that no moment or person could take it from me!
SexyWifey135 2 years ago
This was a fantastic miniseries of videos! I was considered to be "bipolar" until I was 21. I always believed I was God, and I had the power to control my life and the world around me with my thoughts. When I was 16 a psych diagnosed me bipolar, and called that grandious feeling a disorder. I always disagreed, until I went through a traumatizing experience that pushed me to the edge of my psychosis. I live in that here and now of dwelling in the past for 1 1/2 yrs.
SexyWifey135 2 years ago
"Hugs, not psychiatry!" Sigh...
The labels and the drugs may be imperfect; but there is real mental illness out there that is dangerous. Why should a person who's delusional and unpredictable be "validated"? Our best hope is to improve psychiatry, not shun it. Do away with your archaic dualism and focus on the brain, the seat of it all.
dalpaugh 2 years ago
Take some time to learn something about hypnosis and NLP, the real sciences of psychiatry! You will thank me later & avoid looking like a fool by making future similar comments. I only mention cuz I care.
SexyWifey135 2 years ago
@dalpaugh its about bipolar tho thats not really seen to be dangerous, the danger comes when people re told that something is desperately wrong with them and they are told to take drugs wich can ultimatley make them feel bad about themselves ive been living with bipolar all my life and in general it makes me more apethetic and quiet, i live through the bad times and know the good will come, i have never had any treatment as i always knew the doctors dont truly understand, i see it as a positive
AlmostFamous2009 2 years ago
@dalpaugh orange
endofscene 1 year ago
well said vids however i dont see the connection in my level of consciousness, related to my bi polar disorder..great vids for HEALTHY minds in distress..when im in an elevated mood i cant process the thought of "live in the now"..my future, past and "now" thoughts cycle out of control to the point of extreme depression..depression is the awful times of bipolar..without a will to live you dont really have any level of consciousness
bobdacreepable 2 years ago 2
Good comparison. I think volunteers are actively looking for ways to help. They seem to pay attention. Also they are excited to be doing something no one else is doing. Paid professionals tend to fill time doing things people in their profession do.
So in context w/ what youre saying, I believe, generally speaking, volunteers can get away with just listening, paid professionals seem to feel a need to diagnose.
I love the work I do with hypnosis, let the subconscious mind heal itself. It works
Fuzbutter 2 years ago
Great videos... (in these series)!
turkkisydamessani 2 years ago
For the first time in these two years which I have been here in Youtube listening to a video like these...it is so easy... without needing to push myself to the limit in understanding (both in understanding the language.. thank u for easily understood english... and understanding the message itself... this is so clear spoken here...thank´s to the person(s) who made this video...)
turkkisydamessani 2 years ago
Great Vid! I have bipolar disorder! I can really relate to it. I have learned to embrace my mania, but you have to be careful and know how to control it but don't let it control you. If anyone out there has bipolar and needs any advice on how to deal, let me know!
Yostiemonster 2 years ago
Very interesting! I feel like I've always been in the now very easily... my mother gave me a strong example of that.
I believe we are so ruining our world that we are even forced to explore the one part of us that God created our life to flow from. This is also the one part of us that cannot be truly satisfied without God.
RenewedLikeTheEagle 2 years ago
The levels continue further...I found another lol :) x
snix41 2 years ago
Brilliant... Thank you...
here was my lil ditty as I woke up...
wakey wakey rise n shine
open ur eyes, open ur mind...
lol... it kept me going...
Love N Peace
openedmieyez 2 years ago
2) interesting to rename Integral level "power of now" - I think this violates the wilber combs lattice (tolle is talking about a state not a stage) - "power of now" can come at any stage
but otherwise, I enjoyed this and appreciate this.
icewaterpictures 2 years ago
1) "higher" is not "Better" (comparing kindergarten with grad school)... but higher levels (or rather more complex) are simply belief/value systems which are adapting to a new more complex
situation. A problem which was caused by the prior level's (failed) attempt at solution! if a level is working, why "evolve" - we move to the next level if/when we see it's not working!
icewaterpictures 2 years ago
@icewaterpictures interesting
endofscene 1 year ago
the stage that u have reached will have its own interpretation of whatever particular state you may be experiencing - in context of blue
or orange interpretation of psychosis is
but:
icewaterpictures 2 years ago
I Am
You Are
and Everything Else is...
The Path of Least Resistance
in full effect.
RhinoStompin 2 years ago 7
This is cool..I saw it happen to my friend. She handled it the way the narrator did. I was there to support. I was meditating alot at the time so felt peaceful and secure enough to do it. Shes fully recovered and very strong spiritually.
sweeetly 2 years ago
Being empathethic and submissive didn't work for me.
appostollo 2 years ago
When one is present or NOW/CONSCIOUS there are 'NO' problems in ones life.
It is only when the mind (sub-conscious) kicks in, and the 'THINKING' starts (reference to memory) that the PROBLEMS begin.
In the moment NOW there are NO problems (as there is NO thought), everything that upsets you has already happened (is in the Past/in ones memory).
Unless of course it is WORRY, which of course is the mind 'creating' problems in the 'IMAGINARY' future, based purely on ones PAST.
Cont.
NowisEvollovetion 2 years ago
By 'PAYING' attention (BE-ing present or in the NOW) what am 'I' actually 'PAYING FOR'.
'I' am PAYING to have a 'PROBLEM FREE LIFE', by keeping the 'ONLY' problem for ME (my subconscious mind/LIVING PAST) out of the equation/MY LIFE.
NOW/CONSCIOUSNESS is the fastest thing in this Universe,
Now, Now, Now,
Do you see that in the end 'it' (consciousness) moves so fast, 'it' in 'fact' does 'NOT' move at all.
'STILLNESS' is power, power over what?
POWER over my mind/emotions/past.
NowisEvollovetion 2 years ago
I keep trying these different meds and I feel zombified by them all now its abilify and ambien. This video reminds me of south park. Ambien is cool.
What is that piano piece i keep hearing?
operation1enduring1b 2 years ago