Culture? HAA! That's not culture, it's pure savagery! I know from my own history that turks use to fo this sh#t on the balkan, in the past centuries. It is amazing, but it is still happening today in some places... "Bride kidnapping still occurs in countries spanning Central Asia, the Caucasus region, and parts of Africa" Do me a favour and don't try to disguise it as culture! NO! It's savagery! It has already been outlawed in Chechnya, let's hope it gets banned everywhere!
Ok this really caught my interest and I was going to share it. But please, at least have enough common sense to give your production subtitles. I don't know Kyrgyz.
Someone please slit the Woody Allen wannabe's throat. Cut him up and boil him. But that would be a waste of water, dishes, and fire. He is being incredibly disrespectful.
Little Jewish man says so convincingly ,"It's a violation of Islam a violation of law blah blah blah... Isn't the US in a Jew sponsored war with Islam. Someone get me another documentary on the same subject please and have everyone keep their mouth shut!
@crownsedge Only Jews are stupid enough to offer their opinion... albeit voluntarily on other cultures and make a production of of it. Your fuc kin boy is completely out of line with his side comments and the professor... please. He is on the world view side... and the camera just happen to be rolling? The film quality is an accident??? You shits own Hollywood. Fuck Jews!
@crownsedge "Never really got that shit," @ 29:37." And you want to stand up for him?. Bring him into where the Zetas are and let him run his cocksucker!!! Fuck you too!
Like clock work...The white man to pokes their unwanted logic into another culture's tradition. In the US, the white man traditionally murders his wife for insurance money... lol.
@waratah234 Actually it is a tradition that dates back to the Mongols. I'm sure the Mongols were no pussies, otherwise how did they conquer China, India and the Middle-East? Lighten up mate.
@heomak Youre kidding me right? The real turks are tatar from mongolia, its a known fact, the turks you see with blonde hair and blue eyes are originally from greece (even if they are rare) The rest of the turks that looks like arabs came from persians/syria, and there's also a lot of syrians that have turkish names and some of them know turkish very well.. but the real original turks are tatar as i said, and those looks exactly like these guys on the vid.. like mongolian people.
@xrivaldo i was talking about the turkish people from turkey...they look like brown skinned arabs to me. i couldn't tell them apart from a brown iraqi or brown indian dude(and i'm indian)...how come tatar people don't look east asian with narrow almond shaped eyes? but u kinda make sense about tatars being mongolian(even though tatar ppl don't look very east asian), Irina shayk, th model who is half tatar explained that they are "kinda like mongolian" in an interview which i found
@xrivaldo pretty confusing cuz her dad doesn't look mongolian. her mom is russian while her deceased dad was tatar and she said in an interview that tatars are kinda mongolian.
@Pregidth Why else kidnap them. First the grandfather, than his sons, then the brothers of the groom ,then the groom himself gets to stir all that sloppy yoghurt meat.
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Fucking whores. They let themselve be kidnapped because they like it when they get the train.
i don't agree with the real cases where women are truly kidnapped(as opposed to planned kidnapping as shown in this video)....but the reality is that in most cases of bride kidnapping, the "kidnapping" is planned in advance.
in most cases of bride kidnapping in central Asia and the Caucasus, the bride is a willing party. lovers plan it before they go through with the so-called "kidnapping". it's to avoid paying bride-price which can be pretty hefty for families who can't afford to pay much. some of these girls have a romantic image of being whisked away by their prince charming. Ignorant commenter's need to learn a thing or two about CULTURAL RELATIVISM. don't judge others based on u'r own cultural standards.
The woman and the man must have at least known each other before this "kidnapping" (i believe "eloping" is the proper word). Contrary to liberal western perceptions, they dont simply "kidnap" any woman like in the episode of Bangbus lol. Tribal cultures usually stress on tribal bonding, this is their way of expession. There are many instances of bride kidnapping in many tribal culture. To understand more you can find another Journeyman video titled "Lombok bride kidnap".
@secretorganisation dude you misunderstood. this culture have been practised long before the coming of islam missionaries. It just happens Islam fundamentals is compatible with the tribe's culture. Islam taught the most important values in marriage is consentual from both the bride and their families. I dont see anything wrong with this culture, the woman must consent in some way, if she is not consented then she can leave anytime after the ceremony end - which usually dont happen.
I first heard about "Bride Kidnapping" through a documentary in Kazakhstan. It's done there too, I remember from the video that this practice has its origins in certain Central and Eastern European countries and the practice was brought into Central Asia through Russia. As such things were even done there also, but the practice was abandoned due to the modernization of Europe.
This is Haram (forbidden) to kidnap a girl who doesn't want you and islamic sharia will never permit you to marry her without her consent,and family consent second. it is like taking something which is not belong to you. those men must be punished with 100 lashes.
@littlechineseshrimp journeymans video are always biased. i think they are more to tabloid rather than real documentations. Its ok for entertainment but viewers should not take their videos seriously.
This is wrong kidnapping. By Mongol tradition, kidnapping occurs when girl`s family refused to give the girl. The young man must claim the time like "I will kidnap your daughter next week!", the girl`s brothers have a duty to guard her during the claimed time. If the man manages to kidnap her by force or skills, the girl`s father should respect young man`s Kidnapping skills. -this is just stupid, honorable tradition gone rotten.
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Hey at least this girl was happy and not a slut like half the western women who have been fucked beyond any use when they do get married. If I could kidnap a virgin and give her cookies and old dad a goat then I would do it too, we put too much on other cultures to live up to our stupid cave man standards.
@needspeed13 Don't have a sister but I got my virgin goat and I expect you to have that bitch by the water well next week or I'm gonna kick your communist ass! If you can't send Sarah then send your momma, I take oldies but goodies as long as she's toothless, I like gums!
@DaninJonesboro Y u like my sister? Just pick me. I can fuck and lick your sweet ass and you can do mine. That's more fun! My ass has healing powers you know and it's always tight and virgin. hehe love you babeX
@CMLovejoy We should all do some research ourselves. It is sad how little effort people put into their research. How can one trust anything if you don't research it further? He put the story in English right in the drop down box, all you had to do was click it. You can google a story in a foreign language & a translate box pops up. We are in critical times & I say this with concern not hate. If 1can't do something so simple what about deceptions that require much more work from each individual?
It seems to be a 50/50 thing, and I think they use it as an incentive to make people pay to watch it on their website. You can find a transcript of the documentary there, by the way, but compared to on-screen subtitles, it is hard to keep an overview.
@CMLovejoy If you want to see this video with english subtitles and with higher quality go to vice dot com and then click on shows and then click on vice news and their you'll see the episode.
wait a sec let me get this straight... These people kidnaps other people children just to get their son a wife??? WTF.... there is something called Dating... you dont have to resort to kidnapping! damn im glad i didn't live in that area.
this seriously needs subtitles
mongmong83 3 weeks ago
horrible this shit is no different from raping !! this is very savage and primitive.
RSguideX 3 weeks ago
Culture? HAA! That's not culture, it's pure savagery! I know from my own history that turks use to fo this sh#t on the balkan, in the past centuries. It is amazing, but it is still happening today in some places... "Bride kidnapping still occurs in countries spanning Central Asia, the Caucasus region, and parts of Africa" Do me a favour and don't try to disguise it as culture! NO! It's savagery! It has already been outlawed in Chechnya, let's hope it gets banned everywhere!
knifed91 3 weeks ago
i see where BORAT got his material from.
shubroto81 3 weeks ago
I think the application of a small amount of baton would assist the process to be more humane.
kotapaka 3 weeks ago
I stopped watching because there was no subtitles but it looked so interesting
Gibranmacias911 3 weeks ago
Ok this really caught my interest and I was going to share it. But please, at least have enough common sense to give your production subtitles. I don't know Kyrgyz.
fightthespoons 3 weeks ago
No English subtitles? That's stupid.
ColeFried81 3 weeks ago
i believe this would be much more i interesting if i had subtitles
snatchbunddlez 3 weeks ago in playlist Journeyman Weekly
Pssh! This is some knd of traditional joke.
DIJV79 3 weeks ago
Someone please slit the Woody Allen wannabe's throat. Cut him up and boil him. But that would be a waste of water, dishes, and fire. He is being incredibly disrespectful.
mfresh1965 3 weeks ago
Little Jewish man says so convincingly ,"It's a violation of Islam a violation of law blah blah blah... Isn't the US in a Jew sponsored war with Islam. Someone get me another documentary on the same subject please and have everyone keep their mouth shut!
mfresh1965 3 weeks ago
@mfresh1965 Who the hell is talking about jews? What's wrong with you...
crownsedge 3 weeks ago
@crownsedge Only Jews are stupid enough to offer their opinion... albeit voluntarily on other cultures and make a production of of it. Your fuc kin boy is completely out of line with his side comments and the professor... please. He is on the world view side... and the camera just happen to be rolling? The film quality is an accident??? You shits own Hollywood. Fuck Jews!
mfresh1965 3 weeks ago
@crownsedge "Never really got that shit," @ 29:37." And you want to stand up for him?. Bring him into where the Zetas are and let him run his cocksucker!!! Fuck you too!
mfresh1965 3 weeks ago
@mfresh1965 ALRIGHT STOP THIS SHIT NOW! I'll type slowly so you can understand me.
WHAT - THE - FUCK - ARE - YOU - TALKING - ABOUT- ?
crownsedge 3 weeks ago
Kyrgyzstan adopt me.
oCapricorn89o 3 weeks ago
Like clock work...The white man to pokes their unwanted logic into another culture's tradition. In the US, the white man traditionally murders his wife for insurance money... lol.
mfresh1965 3 weeks ago
That's brutal.
PhiloAmericana 3 weeks ago
Kyrgyz boys have no game.... because of their tiny penises, they have to get pussy this way. Otherwise, they'd die out (or turn gay)
waratah234 3 weeks ago
@waratah234 Actually it is a tradition that dates back to the Mongols. I'm sure the Mongols were no pussies, otherwise how did they conquer China, India and the Middle-East? Lighten up mate.
NoHadithForMe 3 weeks ago
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ColonelBatman 3 weeks ago
That's the reason why the U.S go to great lenghts to liberate certain countries...God Bless America...
TheYah00netstar 3 weeks ago
Many of these words are in turkish too, i suppose these are the real turks, the first ones
xrivaldo 3 weeks ago
@xrivaldo not really..turkish people are arab(whether they like it or not)..they look the same as arabs and indians.
heomak 3 weeks ago
@heomak Youre kidding me right? The real turks are tatar from mongolia, its a known fact, the turks you see with blonde hair and blue eyes are originally from greece (even if they are rare) The rest of the turks that looks like arabs came from persians/syria, and there's also a lot of syrians that have turkish names and some of them know turkish very well.. but the real original turks are tatar as i said, and those looks exactly like these guys on the vid.. like mongolian people.
xrivaldo 3 weeks ago
@xrivaldo i was talking about the turkish people from turkey...they look like brown skinned arabs to me. i couldn't tell them apart from a brown iraqi or brown indian dude(and i'm indian)...how come tatar people don't look east asian with narrow almond shaped eyes? but u kinda make sense about tatars being mongolian(even though tatar ppl don't look very east asian), Irina shayk, th model who is half tatar explained that they are "kinda like mongolian" in an interview which i found
heomak 3 weeks ago
@xrivaldo pretty confusing cuz her dad doesn't look mongolian. her mom is russian while her deceased dad was tatar and she said in an interview that tatars are kinda mongolian.
heomak 3 weeks ago
The anti male feminist agent a larger here!!
Aleboy88 3 weeks ago
Americans always trying to destroy other people's culture.. because they are miserable unhappy party poopers...
Aleboy88 3 weeks ago
Do they also rape their women on the first night?
Pregidth 3 weeks ago
@Pregidth Why else kidnap them. First the grandfather, than his sons, then the brothers of the groom ,then the groom himself gets to stir all that sloppy yoghurt meat.
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Fucking whores. They let themselve be kidnapped because they like it when they get the train.
JustineBieberxoxo 3 weeks ago
Schlimmer als die Tschuschen bei uns.
Mariaundjosef1 3 weeks ago
I had to learn Kyrgyz to understand this. Took me 3 years.. Thanks guys
muhddzar 3 weeks ago 11
@muhddzar lol.
87Turkish 3 weeks ago
@muhddzar hahahah
ashbashsplash 3 weeks ago
Its gonna bond to be high divoice rate later on, Real stupid culture in modern society
Today's dating show even highly selected, higher income proven still got some divoice.
How come this happened? Shame !
energyalt56 3 weeks ago
what? whaaat? whAT!???!
tur1000 3 weeks ago
the old man with the mickey mouse voice sounds funny
MrTuberler 3 weeks ago
i don't agree with the real cases where women are truly kidnapped(as opposed to planned kidnapping as shown in this video)....but the reality is that in most cases of bride kidnapping, the "kidnapping" is planned in advance.
heomak 3 weeks ago
in most cases of bride kidnapping in central Asia and the Caucasus, the bride is a willing party. lovers plan it before they go through with the so-called "kidnapping". it's to avoid paying bride-price which can be pretty hefty for families who can't afford to pay much. some of these girls have a romantic image of being whisked away by their prince charming. Ignorant commenter's need to learn a thing or two about CULTURAL RELATIVISM. don't judge others based on u'r own cultural standards.
heomak 3 weeks ago
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echatterwa 3 weeks ago
Why spend all that time and money making a movie most people can't understand? Needs subtitles.
jacoboforlando 3 weeks ago
no subtitles this sucks, BAD!
RonnieDobbz1978 3 weeks ago 2
The woman and the man must have at least known each other before this "kidnapping" (i believe "eloping" is the proper word). Contrary to liberal western perceptions, they dont simply "kidnap" any woman like in the episode of Bangbus lol. Tribal cultures usually stress on tribal bonding, this is their way of expession. There are many instances of bride kidnapping in many tribal culture. To understand more you can find another Journeyman video titled "Lombok bride kidnap".
malayneum 3 weeks ago 2
wtf...force marriage,drink alcohol...
its violating Islamic teaching...dont they read Quran?
secretorganisation 3 weeks ago
@secretorganisation dude you misunderstood. this culture have been practised long before the coming of islam missionaries. It just happens Islam fundamentals is compatible with the tribe's culture. Islam taught the most important values in marriage is consentual from both the bride and their families. I dont see anything wrong with this culture, the woman must consent in some way, if she is not consented then she can leave anytime after the ceremony end - which usually dont happen.
malayneum 3 weeks ago 2
Fucking old traditions! Tradition is the excuse to keep disgusting things alive
agustn 3 weeks ago
how horrible!
DailyWear 3 weeks ago
I always wondered what the hotel worker was alluding to when he talked about how the Kurgan treated Candy.
Aerosteon 3 weeks ago
sub-titles?
ericclaptonismygod31 3 weeks ago
No subtitles?? wtf...
imgoey 3 weeks ago in playlist Journeyman Weekly
/watch?v=zCEPKLGvEzI
Here's the subtitled version! Thumb up for passing on info!
dbarshimon 3 weeks ago
i'm glad everybody is fluent in kyrgyz language :/ (it's already hard to write "kyrgyz")
eabrahao 3 weeks ago
I first heard about "Bride Kidnapping" through a documentary in Kazakhstan. It's done there too, I remember from the video that this practice has its origins in certain Central and Eastern European countries and the practice was brought into Central Asia through Russia. As such things were even done there also, but the practice was abandoned due to the modernization of Europe.
TheShadowParliament 3 weeks ago
Where are the subtitles
mum2Jemaine 3 weeks ago
No translation, very baaad practice and it's totally against and contradicts Islamic law. These men should be punished harshly
mojahidhassan 3 weeks ago
So not everything in Borat is fake.
GustavoCLa 3 weeks ago
This is Haram (forbidden) to kidnap a girl who doesn't want you and islamic sharia will never permit you to marry her without her consent,and family consent second. it is like taking something which is not belong to you. those men must be punished with 100 lashes.
abuaimen23 3 weeks ago in playlist Journeyman Weekly
bull shit religion this world
littlechineseshrimp 3 weeks ago
bull shit video ...journymanpictures shit video
littlechineseshrimp 3 weeks ago
@littlechineseshrimp journeymans video are always biased. i think they are more to tabloid rather than real documentations. Its ok for entertainment but viewers should not take their videos seriously.
malayneum 3 weeks ago
There's a subtitled one on youtube /watch?v=zCEPKLGvEzI&feature=related
MisterMulluc 3 weeks ago
@MisterMulluc Good catch, mate, thanks!
1650million 3 weeks ago
This should really be subtitled or dubbed before it's released...
intoximacated 3 weeks ago
I thought I had seen everything, till this one...
osmanaj2002 3 weeks ago
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Stevie68000 3 weeks ago
Sure glad I took those Kyrgyz lessons in America.....
gigobait 3 weeks ago in playlist Journeyman Weekly
for English subtitle Google search "vice kyrgyzstan" and watch in Vice's original website
AhdaAhda 3 weeks ago 2
Retarded
Fmdvot 3 weeks ago
Also, The Bride Kidnapping expert guy sounds like a woman. :)
nikkijaneallison 3 weeks ago
Interesting. It's quite aggressive and violent but still this is way better love story than Twilight.
nikkijaneallison 3 weeks ago
is it permit to kidnaped a married woman too?
bennlonelyboy 3 weeks ago
if you want subtitles look this up on vices youtube
:)
zetsu12345678910 3 weeks ago 3
the guy with the beard sounds like a woman :x
88Marlo 3 weeks ago
i love pork fried rice
Atitoinnyc 3 weeks ago
Subtitles please.....terrible practice but would like to know wht everybody is really saying...
misebean 3 weeks ago
This is wrong kidnapping. By Mongol tradition, kidnapping occurs when girl`s family refused to give the girl. The young man must claim the time like "I will kidnap your daughter next week!", the girl`s brothers have a duty to guard her during the claimed time. If the man manages to kidnap her by force or skills, the girl`s father should respect young man`s Kidnapping skills. -this is just stupid, honorable tradition gone rotten.
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Stevie68000 3 weeks ago
if you are going to streal a video from vice.tv at least let the people see the captions
joelanddusty 3 weeks ago
THIS IS FROM VICE........THE ORIGINAL HAS SUBS!!!1
xstunnax 3 weeks ago
Hey at least this girl was happy and not a slut like half the western women who have been fucked beyond any use when they do get married. If I could kidnap a virgin and give her cookies and old dad a goat then I would do it too, we put too much on other cultures to live up to our stupid cave man standards.
DaninJonesboro 3 weeks ago
@DaninJonesboro Seriously? You deserve a virgin goat not a woman.
needspeed13 3 weeks ago
@needspeed13 I'll take that too, maybe I can exchange that for your sister? You can have the goat just give me the bitch next week.
DaninJonesboro 3 weeks ago
@DaninJonesboro No, just take me. I'll be happy to fuck you in the ass. I know that's really what you like.
needspeed13 3 weeks ago
@DaninJonesboro OH, and I fingered your sister last night and guess what I found? Your father's wedding ring.
needspeed13 3 weeks ago
@needspeed13 Don't have a sister but I got my virgin goat and I expect you to have that bitch by the water well next week or I'm gonna kick your communist ass! If you can't send Sarah then send your momma, I take oldies but goodies as long as she's toothless, I like gums!
DaninJonesboro 3 weeks ago
@DaninJonesboro Y u like my sister? Just pick me. I can fuck and lick your sweet ass and you can do mine. That's more fun! My ass has healing powers you know and it's always tight and virgin. hehe love you babeX
needspeed13 3 weeks ago
@needspeed13 If I can keep my goat then tell me when to pick you up?
DaninJonesboro 3 weeks ago
you don't think things through do u?
xstunnax 3 weeks ago
You get kidnapped and then you get cookies. Damn cookies must be really bad for a such a fight.
asas2jh 3 weeks ago
some subtitles or translations would be nice
emfri 3 weeks ago 2
no translations?
How can you report the story without showing what these people say?
Thumbs down.
CMLovejoy 3 weeks ago 33
@CMLovejoy We should all do some research ourselves. It is sad how little effort people put into their research. How can one trust anything if you don't research it further? He put the story in English right in the drop down box, all you had to do was click it. You can google a story in a foreign language & a translate box pops up. We are in critical times & I say this with concern not hate. If 1can't do something so simple what about deceptions that require much more work from each individual?
indibabs122275 3 weeks ago
@CMLovejoy
It seems to be a 50/50 thing, and I think they use it as an incentive to make people pay to watch it on their website. You can find a transcript of the documentary there, by the way, but compared to on-screen subtitles, it is hard to keep an overview.
EikC 3 weeks ago
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midori1 3 weeks ago
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@CMLovejoy
Exactly! What's the point of narrating in one language & then interviewing in another?? Both sides only get 1/2 the story!
midori1 3 weeks ago
@CMLovejoy journeyman always like to show half truth in their documentaries. i began to suspect they have their own personal agendas.
malayneum 3 weeks ago
@CMLovejoy If you want to see this video with english subtitles and with higher quality go to vice dot com and then click on shows and then click on vice news and their you'll see the episode.
sktigerjs 3 weeks ago
watch it on vice magazine's website they got subtitles.
MrTubacious 3 weeks ago in playlist Journeyman Weekly 2
American Propaganda Machine on the work.
USFullofLies2 3 weeks ago
That is just ethically appauling!
Tarhini 3 weeks ago
wait a sec let me get this straight... These people kidnaps other people children just to get their son a wife??? WTF.... there is something called Dating... you dont have to resort to kidnapping! damn im glad i didn't live in that area.
Asianiscool1 3 weeks ago in playlist Journeyman Weekly
thanks for the upload, hope there is translation though.
alhuseinen 3 weeks ago
no subtitles?
Heckiheckipatanga 3 weeks ago
This would be a lot more interesting if it had translations
SnipesWithWolvesV2 3 weeks ago 9