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  • i hate crts they fucking suck

  • @sk8erfreak9242 Why do you think they suck?

  • @djo9c1 well actually i looked it up and theyre better the only experience i had them were my old 720p piece of shit crt lol

  • hey i did 1080p on my crt one day. it was small as hell but was still preety damn sweet.

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  • The very concept of CRT resolution is different from that of LCD technology. SO, all this 720p and 1080p does not apply here. You CRT does stuff in "dots per square inch."

  • 1080p? All I see here is a really low quality blurred image which only shows 720p and it probably isn't even THAT.

  • Thumbs up if you thought the Xbox home screen looked extremely weird.

  • Its not uncommon for CRT Monitors to support much higher resolutions than LCD, DLP, Plasma, or the like.

  • @2BunnyReturns And that is why I will NEVER give up my CRT monitors. Hey, 2BunnyReturns, I recognize you from avsforum!

  • @djo9c1

    Hey there, I am certainly a member there. Remind me what your name was on AVS again?

  • Ahh, the old Xbox 360 dashboard, gotta love it.

  • i have a CRT that can do 2048x1536 at 85Hz. now that's something

  • @simon1234simon what size is it? my old 17" scott brand monitor (only £75 in 2001) displayed windows 7 at 1920x1080 resolution with borders of course cos that resolution is meant for widescreen displays really :-P

  • @fujifilmtest ye but it can still show it. :) can it show "4:3 HD" as i like to call it? 1920x1440. mine is a 21" inch professional EIZO monitor. it was very expensive in 2002 when it was made, i got it for almost noting a year ago and it was only used for 150 hours(EIZO monitors have hour conters in them that you can't restart unless if you change the whole circuit board). and i must say that it's much better than and LCD that i had. if you find it cheap(i found it for 35 EUR) get it. :)

  • @simon1234simon at my old college they had huge 20 or 21 inch CRT monitors and the default resoltuion on the computer was something pathetic but i just changed it every time i logged on and did my work in 1600x1200 :-) shortly before i left they replaced them though with 17" LCD junk, what a shame and so stupid.

  • It was proven that 720p are better than 1080p for the consoles the graphics will change on 1080p a bit low but on PC 1080p it will improve and that's because the console needs more GPU power. watch console wars and see what i mean.

  • @sesestro Yes, the lower the resolution, the less power it will need.

  • @Kin632 That's right.

  • It's downscaling here. It's not true 1080p, that's just what the Xbox 360 is outputting. Many 19" CRT monitors, even some 17" ones, could do it though; if they can scan at more than about 68 KHz horizontal then they could do it. Of course it might look a bit fuzzy especially on lower-res models.

  • Niiiice how much for your CRT ?

  • the tv can not do it its just the box converting it

  • All because can use 1080p does not mean thats what your really seeing. You the the native res.

  • @jeff666p

    again, your fucking stupid. CRT screens dont have a native resolution.

    only flat panels do. CRT screens are capable of a native display of ***SEVERAL RESOLUTIONS***

    keep your mis-informed uneducated, clueless mouth shut.

  • @samljer They have a bandwidth limit. And only HD crt's don't have a native res but there still a dot pitch limit.

  • @jeff666p

    CRT bandwidth limitation is about 3x more then whats needed for a 1900x screen

    so dont expect that to hinder it lol.

  • @samljer But there were not many CRTs manufactured that were capable of full 1080i/p. ANd im certain that none of them were only 15 inches. And since thats a CRT monitor, i bet only 14 inches of screen real-estate are really there.

  • @anakinseviltwin

    stop being a know it all asshat

    anything over 720 is HD

  • For a start you are displaying an INTERLACED signal. How do I know this? Because you would not get that scrolling line on the video of the monitor like you did.

    Secondly, the xbox 360 may be displaying HD content but your CRT monitor is not displaying it. It is meerly downgrading the content that you have supplied it to something it can process (something like 480p for example)

  • All CRT monitors are PROGRESSIVE.. not interlaced...

    so any resolution 1024x768 or higher is actually

    true HD on par with 720p (768 is a letterbox 720p HD) same pixel count

    your wrong ;P

  • yeah most crts can do at least 720i and p but like the tube can handle that resolution..

  • CRT monitors are progressive.

    CRT televisions are interlaced.

    You can get 1080p with 1280x1024, just letterbox.

    CRT is better than all the damn rest. Don't argue.

  • no, not all monitors are progressive and not all tv's are interlaced. and you deffinantly cant show all 1920x1080 pixels inside something that only phisicaly has 1280x1024. it will fit height wise just isnt wide enough needs more horizontal pixels, and no you cant FAKE it by turning the xbox to 1080 mode, its just shrinking the picture and your not getting all the 1080p pixels to make it true 1080

  • Wrong, 1080i is actually 540p

    You can get 1080i on a x1024 monitor

    as for your ZOMG 50 lines of resolution are missing!!!

    you wont even notice the difference, stfu lol

    Its HD, simple

  • 1080 is 1080 it doesnt matter if its i or p thats how its drawn, theres still 1080 horizontal scan lines you fucking moron, all you hafto do is look it up and stop being such a failure at life, omg your such a fucking moron i hope your not much older than 6 because anyone else would know this

  • Look douche bag as long as he is higher then 720p he is HD asshat

    and a 1024x768 letterbox has the same pixel count as a 720p HDTV

    Either way your fucking wrong

    and VIRTUAL lines of resolution dont count, 1080i isnt as good as 720p in quality

    but you know everything it seems, so you knew this too

    as for the other guy, last time i checked 16" monitors can do 1024x768 "720p letterbox"

    your hd, ignore this fuckin dummy

  • look dipshit 720p is 1280x720. 720 and 1080 are both WIDESCREEN RESOLUTIONS your not going to fit 1280 pixels WIDE into a monitor thats 1024 its not fucking possible you stupid fuck

  • and a 1024x768 letterbox has the same pixel count as a 720p HDTV No it doesn't true 720p has 1280x720

  • @jeff666p yes it does 4:3 HD = 1024x768HD letterbox

    and WS HD = 1280x720HD Widescreen

    its still HD, idiot. and it even tells you on the VGA cable package.

  • /watch?v=Z-JXfyvlPh0

    Id watch that

    Im not going to school you farther, im going to just let your technological ignorance pwn your face.

  • yes, that video shows in right, when 1080i is DE-INTERLACED< meaning when its faking it and only showing HALF the pixels, that means its not real, i can take a 10 megapixel picture and crop it down to a thumbnail image but its not going to be a 10 megapixel image anymore. true 1080 is EXACTLY THAT, you can cut out enough scan lines from 1080 to make it fit a standard telivision screen, but its not 1080 anymore theres not 1920x1080 pixels anymore meaning its not 1080p whats wrong with you idiot

  • @samljer what are you talking about 1080i is the same resolution as 1080p but interlaced instead of progressively scanned...

  • no its not....

    interlaced only has half the resolution

    on screen at any given time.

    that is a no brainer, by definition thats what the word "interlaced" even means.

  • 1080p has double bandwith so its twice has goodhas the 1080i +720p is better than 1080i

  • It's not displaying at 1080p... What you see isn't what it's actually displaying in terms of the menu.

  • Ha you wish you could do 1080p on that pile, 1080 is 1920x1080 resolution , your monitor simply cant have that high of resolution, you can try sending 1080 to it but your still not going to have as many pixels as your pile has

  • Actually the 1080 refers to after the X

    it says right on the package "outputs 1080"

    Any screen capable of showing

    x540 can give you 1080i

    and anything capable of showing 1650x1050

    can give you 1080p

    As long as your monitor can show those resolutions, thats what your getting.

    The INCH of the screen means shit.

    the pixel count is where its at.

  • no 1080 IS "1920x1080" thats the MINIMUM for 1080p resolution. and no any 19"cannot do 1080, and 1080i isnt any diffrent, its just interlaced. and even tho your xbox says its outputing 1080 your still not seeing all the pixels because a monitor that PHYSICALY has less pixals than 1080 requires. you cant fit a picture that's 1920x1080 inside a box that's 1650x1050. its just NOT POSSIBLE. do more research before you come on here telling other people lies

  • Hi the XCM box will receive the 1080p transmition from the xbox and then auto adjust the output to match the monitor, so although it may say 1080p on the xbox your probably only getting 480p on the screen. Trust me if you have a full fat 1080p HDTV you will notice a huge difference over SDTV, I have a mega cool XCM box and its great for PS3 and a Projector

  • a CRT can easily get a 1080 display. And almost every monitor gets at least a 720 display, as a 15 inch TFT gets 768 lines of pixel.

  • its obvious your an idiot so here we go the only crts that can do 1080 are 22" and they do above 1080 as 1080 is a widescreen rez and there was not many under 30" wide crt's. as for the 15" doing 720 its just short of doing that as a 15" can only do 1024x768, just short of the 1280x720 that 720p (or i) that you stated, 720p is only half of 1080, just because you shrink any resolution to your monitor doesnt mean your seeing all thoes pixels, so show me a crt under 22" that can do 1080p

  • A 15" can do 720p, which is where your wrong.  The common one can't, but you can buy "high res" models, which can go up to 1600x1200 on a 16 inch screen. As for this video, I doubt it is a 1080 display, but I miss-wrote my comment. And a 15 inch wide screen (lcd) will get a 720 display. I'm sure you could go on most any site and find one.

  • And a high res model can easily get up to 1080, or even larger. I have a 17 inch high res model (burned out due to over use) sitting in my basement, and it gets up to 2048 x 1536. Altho that isn't a wide screen resolution. And "It's obvious your an idiot" because you don't happen to know all the items which have been available.

  • Stop spewing your ill informed crap on youtube.

    any monitor over 19" can easily do 1080p

    and any monitor over 17 can do 1080i

  • Fake !!!

    The vga can't support 1080p. And your image is 4:3

    Sorry for my bad English, I'm French ...

  • If you set an LCD resolution too high it'll probably say "Unsupported Format". No such limitations with CRT's. Even though you shouldn't try to make 'em do 1080p o_O

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  • why what can happen if you make them do 1080 p

  • F**K XBOX

  • It doesn't surprise me, CRT's don't have a native resolution.

  • Why would you want to do this, The image is compressed and looks like garbage. If you get the actual VGA cable you can run at a 4:3 resolution, not 16:9.

    Also its nothing for a CRT to run at 1920x1080, CRT's can handle much higher resolutions than that.

  • it's true, crt monitors are astounding quality, its just too compressed to notice, and it can go higher than 1080ppi

  • I still use a 21" CRT Viewsonic G220fb. I keep it at 1600x1200 ay 85Hz native, but it can do up to 2048x1536 no problem.

  • I am confused how you got this...I am running my 360 through my 19 inch crt monitor and i was wondering what you need to set the resolution at to get near high def quality...also, if you are running it through your monitor, how come it says HDTV...could someone clarify this for me..??

  • look at 0:07. He doesn't use a VGA cabel. He use a component cabel with a VGA adapter.

  • its actually a composite cable with the two audio plugs. There is simply no way he could have done 1080P. Composite video does not support hd

  • He is using component and component supports HD.

  • The only thing HDTV and SDTV (standard definition) have different in the xbox setup is if your using the Composite (Red, White & Yellow) which is not HD, or the component (Green, Red & Blue.) which is HD.

  • @mexfreak86 Not realy, yes the consept of componant supports HD but the TV doesnt. My CRT does an xbox, but its not 1080p you can see that from the quality :D

  • DellMan94... education fail.

  • look, I know that component supports HD. It supports 720p/1080i. I am not stupid

  • Why'd you say it didn't, then?

  • he didnt

  • yes it dose you can put 1080 p through usb you can put it through composit it just isnt any better

  • composite only supports 480i (wish it did support hd though) :) I know component does. VGA, DVI, HDMI, and DisplayPort and coaxial cable are the only cable that I know of that support HD, everything else is SD

  • How is this news? CRT Monitors were giving 1900x1200 (pretty much 4:3 1080P as opposed to 1900x1080) in the late 90s...

    Were the confusion lies is that TVs although CRT were not capable of this resolution. Computer monitors however were for a very long time. As long as your monitor had component or component over VGA you could get this on any HD console via a CRT monitor.

  • CRT times are measured in nanoseconds.

    CRT's response is about 3/10th of a millasecond.

    thats just how long it takes the phosporus to heat and cool back off. Plasma's functioning at a true 120hz is the only thing that has a comparable response time.

  • WTF???

  • that's wat i 4t! lol

  • it actually looks like 1080

  • CRT? >.> o.o

  • CRT rocks the gaming world. Response times are thousands times faster then crappy LCD/plazma nonsences. Resolution naturally processed by electro-beams, no pixel scaling, improper resizing and all that LCD crap. True gaming only possible on CRT technology. YEAP

  • whats the response time of your crt? I have a great Samsung LCD with a 2ms response time, looks fantastic.

  • CRT's don't usually measure response times, because its redundant information. In CRT's its the speed of light, and can only be measured in microseconds. So yes, he's correct, all CRTs have superior response times and have more possible colors. Very minor things, yes, but some people it does make a difference.

  • If CRT's DON'T usually measure response time, then how does he figure that they are THOUSANDS of times FASTER than LCD/Plasma tvs?

    Seems to me like he just can't afford one of those and wants to talk about them cause he doesn't have it.

  • My cousing has a LCD LG monitor and the quality sucks compared to my old CRT monitor, oh man i can't wait to get my VGA AV cable

  • Tell your cousin not to shop at Big Lots.

    If you want quality, then you should go HD.

    No matter whether its flat panel, projection, rear-projection, etc... 720p is great value for the money and 1080p is OBVIOUSLY great, but costs much more.

    If the quality sucked, it wasn't HD or it wasn't a good brand.

  • AMEN

  • you dont have an hdtv then

  • yeah people need to realize that before this whole 1080p CTR monitors were already giving us HD Vision

    wow and we didn't even see it lol

  • Anyone who is using a CRT go into your control panel and see the resolutions you can get. Im using a 7 year old one and I can get well over 1080p. In reality if you have a CRT you can display video quality that is right up their with any full hd tv.

  • wtf

  • once u turn ur 360 on.....does the computer turn 2 the gaming channel automatically??....and does ur computer have too be off???...

  • its a monitor not a tv

  • in the video you have component hooked up and component only goes up to 1080i

  • No, component goes to 1080p. But most people that have 1080p on their televisions have HDMI which provides a clearer picture, so component analog is useless.

  • The only difference between component and HDMI is in the fact that component separates the cables for audio and video. HDMI provides both audio and video in the same cable.

    Oh the ignorance.

  • VGA is HD ...

  • hey i thought it only went up to 720p

  • lol good CRT TV's (using VGA) can go up to 2048x1536 or 2300x1440.

  • Wow dude lol i got an lcd so if i got like a hdmi to vga for ps3 wow that would look awesome lol

  • you shouldn't even have HDTV display settings if you're using a VGA cable... so something's going on here.

  • yeah if using vga you only get resolution

  • after watching the video again. he's using a converter. that converts the component/av output to a VGA output. so really, the monitor isn't doing 1080p

  • after i saw this i started playing around with my own crt. bought in 2003 and its like 17"" it can do up to 1920x1440 lool. my 19 inc lcd cant even touch my crt in resolution.

    I thought new technology was meant to be more advanced all i need to buy is hd fury around £60 and i can play my ps3 on it in full hd resolution.

    Or i could splash out £300+ on a 24" lcd that cant even display full hd very well without black bars or streching. Hmm i wonder what im gonna go for. CRT FTW

  • where did u get that vga converter thingy? and how much?

  • Tylko często z bliższej odległości jest trudnośc z odczytaniem małego tekstu.Ja siedzę od telewizora tak 2,5, 3m i tego problemu nie mam.

  • Jam mam SONY trinitron 25 cali, podpięty XBOX 360 Arcade (przez euro/scart)i w takich grach jak gears of war czy Asasins Creed obraz wydaje się jeszcze lepszy niż na LCD :)Oczywiście mój SONY to tv kineskopowy.

  • Even some older decent CRTs can display 1920x1080(1080p) as the max resolution. The way CRTs are built, there's a tradeoff between horizontal and vertical resolution. My monitor's max res was supposed to be 1280x1024 yet I'm here using 1080p. It's just that (in windows at least) you have to enable unsupported resolutions. And for CRTs, 1080p is really the bottom of the bucket. There's some that can reach 2560x1600. But notice how the vertical resolution doesn't increase by much.

  • its upscale,not true 1080p.

  • downscaled. you can'tt upscale without the necessary pixels.

  • dude, i have the same monitor!!

  • HE NEVER CLICKED YES IT STAYED ON 720p

    BUY SOME GLASSES PEOPLE!!!11

  • Yeh your right good job lol

  • i,ve a vga box for wich they said that it could upscale the image to even sxvga resolution,however once i connecting my pal snes to a 107 cm hd ready lcd screen,the image looks very pixelated,so ,m think it,s not a real upscaler but instead it only resize it,becouse upscaling means putting more pixels in the final images.

  • Its a CRT so its not going to display a true 1080p image is it?! Also the evidence is there in the video, when you change it to 1080p it doesn't diplay the full image (part of it is cut off) and you change it back. Therefore it doesn't even support it let alone display true 1080p. Damn some people are so stupid.....

  • Dude CRT's already surpass 1080p.

  • Hey, ma e possibile mettere la 1920x1080i su monitor CRT 4:3? si vede bene? ma e una risoluzione per 16:9?

    Grazie

  • no big deal, 1080p isnt some wack HD setting, HD has basically been around for many years if u consider 480p being a HD setting, CRT monitors can do alot better than 480p even 1080p if u consider 'W/E x 1024' almost 1080.... once again this isnt a big dill

  • Since you used the box, it thinks it's displaying at 1080p but it's most likely running at its native resolution. Physically 1,080 lines of resolution cannot fit on a 15" screen. if you work the math it's like 22.something.

  • bullshit. some company made a 7'' 1080p tv a couple months ago.

  • probably as a concept or something that cost 6 grand.. you can't actually buy consumer electronics with that kind of technology in them yet, and 1080 lines of image can't fit on a 15" crt. that's not even a widescreen screen format. that is 4:3, not 16:9 or even 16:10, like a lot of lcd monitors.

    ..MORON

  • lol.. You better be an expert.

  • It doesn't matter. That's not what you said. Before you said it couldn't fit on a 15''. Wrong. It can and has been proven. You never said about it being affordable to the consumer, and BTW do you even know what 1080p is? It's 1920x1080, a 16:9 aspect ratio, 16:10 isn't equal to 1080p.

  • 1080 progressive scan, yes, a 1920 by 1080 resolution, obviously i know what it is if im talking "lines of image" as in the 1080 vertical lines of pixels consecutively displayed which comprise an image, etc. etc. i don't see why you guys get so worked up about a comment, and that's why i said "or even 16:10"... because LCD monitors use an aspect ratio of that size, obviously distorting the image a small amount

  • FYI I have a 15" CRT monitor that displays 1920x1440, which is above 1080p. It can be done. And the point of the video is that you can display a 1080p signal on a CRT, regardless of how many lines of resolution it can draw. The fact he is showing is that you can play your games, albeit squashed, without spending $1200 on an HDTV or $400 on an HDCP LCD.

  • where you buy it?

  • thats excatly the product I was looking for so I wouldnt have to reconnect my pc vga thingy when i needed my pc ty man appericate the info nice vid too :p

  • wtf how do you get vga to display tv resoultions?

  • I got this thing called the XCM VGA Box. You connect anything component through this box, and then connect a VGA monitor to it. It so I can have my Xbox 360 connected to my other 22" monitor that I use with my PC.

  • It 1080p through component and not HDMI.

  • No it was at 1080p, I just didn't agree to saving it at 1080p, because it's not even on the screen! Maybe you should look closer next time!

  • it said 720p at the end so it didnt work you suck!

  • wait turns out im blind but you still suck!

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