@lionel19651 yes it might, since there are already deals being made with another buyer... But if i was that buyer i would rename the company and keep the platform like it is with few logo changes and not mention one name of "Full tilt" in it.. just the logo scares people away haha
I still remember that I used to put together 3 laptops and play same tournament with different user names, I use to feel bad about cheating on people,but later I said to myself, fck, they may be doing the same to me, I remember at the beginning I used to get confused and would forget I was also the other player and would go all in against myself lol, but later on when I got the hang on it, I would make it to the final table with 3 different user names. ; ) good thing I always cashed out often
congrats on announcing it, but it was obvious when he stopped playin live.. Maybe a tourney or 2.. Compared to 03 when he was playing on every show.. Fuck these guys...
I'd like to believe only Bitar knew the whole truth, but I don't see how that can be the case. I'm convinced Dwan is clean and I respect his actions. I think they have named the responsible parties (Bitar/Lederer/Ferguson/Furst). I bet they all knew what was going on. Unsure about the others. But for christ sake $440M???
This leaves $60M to pay back the $390M. Perhaps another $60M from liquidated assets (after scumbag lawyers).
@n0us3rn4m3s4v41l4bl3 Thanks! I had a feeling that Howard Lederer would be nailed by the DOJ when I downloaded this video on May 13, 2011. I placed jail bars on him in the video to pronounce Lederer's demise before everyone else in the media.
@Moviemakerjjcasino incredibly prophetic regarding Ponzi Scheme. Nevertheless, it wasn't a Ponzi. That moniker is only warranted when profits aren't being made. But they made a shit-ton of money. The problem is that the FTP board scooped $440M for themselves from the player pool - thinking (correctly) that those deficits would be made back eventually. I don't think there was any 'hole' in the 3rd party pymt processor. I think that was outright payment for doing the laundry.
go work for a living you fucking crooks lazy asswipes watching you is like watching goddamn paint dry you pieces of shit poker on tv for chrissakes if you like this boring garbage you are an idiot
Full Tilt is now in negotiations according to rumors. Their plan is to sell off the software, the 'Full Tilt' trademark and the patents to Rush poker and multi-entry tournaments, and let the rest (the empty company with all the debts) go bankrupt, which means the player's balances also disappear.
In 2004, Howard Lederer founded Tiltware company, which designed, produced and maintained the Full Tilt Poker software. At the moment Howard is CEO of the company and, together with his friend and colleague Ray Bitar, owns the Full Tilt Poker card room.
Howard Lederer Net Worth
Howard Lederer’s Net Worth is, most likely, the most impressive in the business. With his owning a majority stake in Full Tilt Poker (currently valued at anywhere between 2 and 4 billion dollars)
What they doing?. like the song says what they doing?. LOL FTP is done anyone that is smart enough don't buy this company it's a scam stick with real cards. HAHA!! I thought at 1 point it was legit online poker and I thought all online poker was legit. but after playing 1 year of real cash game poker online you will find the truth that it's not HAHA!! too bad good players are bad and bad players are good?. too bad the twilight zone had to end sometime. I wish I was in on this great scam. LOL
@girlie347 You mean the LAS VEGAS pros have the players money?Surely not it was them that encouraged people to gamble.If this is true it's the end of online poker with the pros getting sponsored.
Criminal charges should be brought to anyone stealing the players money.
@girlie347 why are you so stupid? get your facts right.. FTP is coming back, investing group bought the major share and will put their money in FTP, ftp was shut down because the controlling shareholder ray was into dirty business, but now he sold his share, and ftp will be back.
That Ray Bitar sold his share is no fact, in fact I've never seen that mentioned anywhere. 2+2 today claims Bitar is still in it. Nobody bought FTP yet, some group started talks but nothing has been decided.
The gays were quick to believe it when someone said it would reopen next friday, which was yesterday. GUESS WHAT that didn't happen either.
Alderney license says players money must be covered 100% by capital, and they just don't have it.
also, the information in this video is false, Phil Ivey currently has a suit against Tiltware for not reimbursing players, and is boycotting by not playing in the 2011 world series. You people are fucking morons
United States catch these fucking crooks for being what they are nothing but a big scam. phil ivey it's time for you to go to the booty house. along with howards lederger and the rest of the team. the house of cards has FALLEN!!. ;) pokerstars and all other online poker sites you all going to the BOOTY HOUSE!! ;D don't worry you poker players I'm sure you can play live poker in jail and gamble for cigarettes ;) HAHA!! online poker is DONE. and i say DONE.. i barely play online poker anymore ;D
@Mannybanks00 other than getting the players names wrong, you are also saying that these professional poker players who make a living playing LIVE poker and winning prestigious world series of poker bracelets for the past 50 years are crooks. These players were payed as a sponsorship, they have no ownership or power in the company. Everyone that should be arrested has already been arrested, and these professionals will continue to play and win the life's earning in the real world. Your an idiot
@EchoLenix your just a crock of s.hit ok Online poker is a crock a s.hit and so are you. I play a lot of heads up poker LIVE and you don't see pocket vs pocket straight over straight and constant action that is the only s.hit that you see on the internet. and these so called "poker professional" promoted it so in part they will have to answer to UNITED STATES and the community of there horrendous scam witch is ONLINE POKER. with all there crock of s.hit and scamming players that are 90% bots.
@Mannybanks00 I dont play online poker, i only play live and mostly at the Bellagio. I tried pokerstars and full tilt. Didnt like it much. I wanted to play the world series again this year but had to work. They promote it as a sponsorship. They dont have to answer to anyone, no one is pressing charges against them, and no one is investigating them. And no one is pressing charges against online poker being a scam or cheating. The only thing in question how upper management laundered money
@Mannybanks00 You're talking crap. The reason you don't see as many strange hands live is because you don't see anywhere near as many hands. Online you can see a years Live poker in a week. Hundreds of hands. Watch roulette online or any game of chance long enough and you will see things you thought near impossible happen far more often than you thought.
@ojideagu you are so wrong. i played on a table where i saw POCKET tens make quads in a back to back hand. the odds of that happening is so astronomical. few hands later, a player A had KK, player B had QQ, and player C had KQ. the board came out K Q 5. the odds of that happening is pretty high. now you take the quad 10's back to back and the KQ hand in close succession and you have a tricked out site program.
@golfmaniac007 In a live poker event you can see the video Quad Aces were Beaten by A Royal Flush The odds of that are even higher. I even saw somebody win the lottery last week. So what, that's probability. Nothing is impossible. Just because YOU saw it happen does not mean it shouldn't happen.
@ojideagu you fail to realize the astronomical odds of what i wrote. its is even more impossible than the royal flush over quads scenario. the odds are even higher than winning a lottery ticket. i don't think you know the enormity of a specific pocket 10's quad happening back to back hands.
@ojideagu what does roulette have to do with poker?. online is not the same as live poker. good luck with your theory. all I got to say is??...!!.. what they doing!! :D LOL life is complicated just enjoy the roller coaster ride till it's over brother HAHA!!. cheat if you can cheat and play if you can play. smiling in your face
@Mannybanks00 Everyone who's shit at online poker claims they are being cheated. The same with Chess. All online games are strictly regulated to make sure they stick to real life odds.
Roulette in real life you can have 12 reds in a row. You would probably think that is cheating. Well
@ojideagu your not making sense again you junky. what does roulette and now chess?. HAHAHA!!. you must be a moron. god my eye's hurt my brain aches and they smiling in my face :D
@Mannybanks00 Roulette is a game of chance, it is gambling, so is a part of poker. They are strictly regulated. Things idiots like you think are "cheating" happen naturally if you play these games long enough. It's normal probability.
The poker companies make the same money whoever wins, the rake.
@ojideagu probability?. your making my head ache you fcking canadian guy. go collect some can eh?. go tell your lies to someone else eh. ok eh, people like you is what make the world not go round :D eh why don't you tell howard ledgeder why he NEVER PLAYED ONLINE POKER eh because he knows the s.hit he built is a scam :D ok eh canadian eh go back to your KAWAHAKE gaming comission and tell them to regulate a much better poker program :D ok eh.
@ojideagu so what I'm telling you that the nature of the cards fall like water in the real world of live cards and online poker is created by a (MAN) and the Math that he sees fit. if there was a battle between God's house of poker and Man's house of poker I would choose the real cards shuffle over Man Made Machine witch don't really work and it will never (replicate) real live cards so in the end it's just all a fluke online poker is a fluke and it's purpose is for entertainment. PERIOD.
Love the video just don't see why the jail bars are over every player there Ivey, harman, seidel, juanda, lindgren and gordon?
67steinip 1 month ago
there is no hope that the site will ever open again, right?
FISTMASTERRR 2 months ago
@FISTMASTERRR right
lionel19651 1 month ago
@lionel19651 yes it might, since there are already deals being made with another buyer... But if i was that buyer i would rename the company and keep the platform like it is with few logo changes and not mention one name of "Full tilt" in it.. just the logo scares people away haha
67steinip 1 month ago
I still remember that I used to put together 3 laptops and play same tournament with different user names, I use to feel bad about cheating on people,but later I said to myself, fck, they may be doing the same to me, I remember at the beginning I used to get confused and would forget I was also the other player and would go all in against myself lol, but later on when I got the hang on it, I would make it to the final table with 3 different user names. ; ) good thing I always cashed out often
Mezcal2008 3 months ago
kinda glad i played w/fraud funds
MrMikev9 4 months ago
Everybody does.
KoltMaesta 5 months ago
I WANT MY FUCKING MONEY BACK
MrTheloosecannon 5 months ago 3
congrats on announcing it, but it was obvious when he stopped playin live.. Maybe a tourney or 2.. Compared to 03 when he was playing on every show.. Fuck these guys...
elway0798 5 months ago
I'd like to believe only Bitar knew the whole truth, but I don't see how that can be the case. I'm convinced Dwan is clean and I respect his actions. I think they have named the responsible parties (Bitar/Lederer/Ferguson/Furst). I bet they all knew what was going on. Unsure about the others. But for christ sake $440M???
This leaves $60M to pay back the $390M. Perhaps another $60M from liquidated assets (after scumbag lawyers).
I predict 30 cents on the dollar.
myrtlebox 5 months ago
Your vid looks prophetic today, good job!
n0us3rn4m3s4v41l4bl3 5 months ago 3
@n0us3rn4m3s4v41l4bl3 Thanks! I had a feeling that Howard Lederer would be nailed by the DOJ when I downloaded this video on May 13, 2011. I placed jail bars on him in the video to pronounce Lederer's demise before everyone else in the media.
Moviemakerjjcasino 5 months ago
@Moviemakerjjcasino incredibly prophetic regarding Ponzi Scheme. Nevertheless, it wasn't a Ponzi. That moniker is only warranted when profits aren't being made. But they made a shit-ton of money. The problem is that the FTP board scooped $440M for themselves from the player pool - thinking (correctly) that those deficits would be made back eventually. I don't think there was any 'hole' in the 3rd party pymt processor. I think that was outright payment for doing the laundry.
myrtlebox 5 months ago
go work for a living you fucking crooks lazy asswipes watching you is like watching goddamn paint dry you pieces of shit poker on tv for chrissakes if you like this boring garbage you are an idiot
phildirt3 5 months ago
Full Tilt is now in negotiations according to rumors. Their plan is to sell off the software, the 'Full Tilt' trademark and the patents to Rush poker and multi-entry tournaments, and let the rest (the empty company with all the debts) go bankrupt, which means the player's balances also disappear.
girlie347 7 months ago
Howard Lederer Tiltware
In 2004, Howard Lederer founded Tiltware company, which designed, produced and maintained the Full Tilt Poker software. At the moment Howard is CEO of the company and, together with his friend and colleague Ray Bitar, owns the Full Tilt Poker card room.
Howard Lederer Net Worth
Howard Lederer’s Net Worth is, most likely, the most impressive in the business. With his owning a majority stake in Full Tilt Poker (currently valued at anywhere between 2 and 4 billion dollars)
opinionater100 7 months ago
no i say good job they wer full on frecky River Rats . have a nice time in jail Boss
:) bad beat my ass ...ooow sry its YOUR ASS thats goner get a seeing to HA HA
bad news is all net poker sites have the same base program ..
PANTSDOWN555 7 months ago
the u s government just totally blows fuck them
tjw3999 8 months ago
What they doing?. like the song says what they doing?. LOL FTP is done anyone that is smart enough don't buy this company it's a scam stick with real cards. HAHA!! I thought at 1 point it was legit online poker and I thought all online poker was legit. but after playing 1 year of real cash game poker online you will find the truth that it's not HAHA!! too bad good players are bad and bad players are good?. too bad the twilight zone had to end sometime. I wish I was in on this great scam. LOL
Mannybanks00 8 months ago
The pros on this advert should give any money they have made to the players who lost out.Now!!
lottaluck 8 months ago
It's game over fools. Full Tilt has been shut down now, so the players outside the USA also lost their money.
The owners have fled with the money, it's likely never coming back online.
Your money is definitely gone for good now, so long SUCKERS !!
girlie347 8 months ago
@girlie347 You mean the LAS VEGAS pros have the players money?Surely not it was them that encouraged people to gamble.If this is true it's the end of online poker with the pros getting sponsored.
Criminal charges should be brought to anyone stealing the players money.
lottaluck 8 months ago
@girlie347 why are you so stupid? get your facts right.. FTP is coming back, investing group bought the major share and will put their money in FTP, ftp was shut down because the controlling shareholder ray was into dirty business, but now he sold his share, and ftp will be back.
crkin9 8 months ago
@crkin9 How can you talk about 'facts'.
That Ray Bitar sold his share is no fact, in fact I've never seen that mentioned anywhere. 2+2 today claims Bitar is still in it. Nobody bought FTP yet, some group started talks but nothing has been decided.
The gays were quick to believe it when someone said it would reopen next friday, which was yesterday. GUESS WHAT that didn't happen either.
Alderney license says players money must be covered 100% by capital, and they just don't have it.
girlie347 8 months ago
@girlie347 u mad? doj took the funds, its obvious that they were going to pay
crkin9 8 months ago
This is bullshit FTP has shut down across europe aswell governments are the scum of the earth. FTP was awesome :(
irishhellsangel 8 months ago
scammed?? the owners didn't scam anyone. get your facts straight.
robkkkkable 8 months ago
Howard Lederer and Chris “Jesus” Ferguson, who have strong connections to Full Tilt Poker, were not named in the indictment.
EchoLenix 8 months ago
also, the information in this video is false, Phil Ivey currently has a suit against Tiltware for not reimbursing players, and is boycotting by not playing in the 2011 world series. You people are fucking morons
EchoLenix 8 months ago
United States catch these fucking crooks for being what they are nothing but a big scam. phil ivey it's time for you to go to the booty house. along with howards lederger and the rest of the team. the house of cards has FALLEN!!. ;) pokerstars and all other online poker sites you all going to the BOOTY HOUSE!! ;D don't worry you poker players I'm sure you can play live poker in jail and gamble for cigarettes ;) HAHA!! online poker is DONE. and i say DONE.. i barely play online poker anymore ;D
Mannybanks00 9 months ago
@Mannybanks00 other than getting the players names wrong, you are also saying that these professional poker players who make a living playing LIVE poker and winning prestigious world series of poker bracelets for the past 50 years are crooks. These players were payed as a sponsorship, they have no ownership or power in the company. Everyone that should be arrested has already been arrested, and these professionals will continue to play and win the life's earning in the real world. Your an idiot
EchoLenix 8 months ago
@EchoLenix your just a crock of s.hit ok Online poker is a crock a s.hit and so are you. I play a lot of heads up poker LIVE and you don't see pocket vs pocket straight over straight and constant action that is the only s.hit that you see on the internet. and these so called "poker professional" promoted it so in part they will have to answer to UNITED STATES and the community of there horrendous scam witch is ONLINE POKER. with all there crock of s.hit and scamming players that are 90% bots.
Mannybanks00 8 months ago
@Mannybanks00 I dont play online poker, i only play live and mostly at the Bellagio. I tried pokerstars and full tilt. Didnt like it much. I wanted to play the world series again this year but had to work. They promote it as a sponsorship. They dont have to answer to anyone, no one is pressing charges against them, and no one is investigating them. And no one is pressing charges against online poker being a scam or cheating. The only thing in question how upper management laundered money
EchoLenix 8 months ago
@Mannybanks00 You're talking crap. The reason you don't see as many strange hands live is because you don't see anywhere near as many hands. Online you can see a years Live poker in a week. Hundreds of hands. Watch roulette online or any game of chance long enough and you will see things you thought near impossible happen far more often than you thought.
ojideagu 8 months ago
@ojideagu you are so wrong. i played on a table where i saw POCKET tens make quads in a back to back hand. the odds of that happening is so astronomical. few hands later, a player A had KK, player B had QQ, and player C had KQ. the board came out K Q 5. the odds of that happening is pretty high. now you take the quad 10's back to back and the KQ hand in close succession and you have a tricked out site program.
golfmaniac007 8 months ago
@golfmaniac007 In a live poker event you can see the video Quad Aces were Beaten by A Royal Flush The odds of that are even higher. I even saw somebody win the lottery last week. So what, that's probability. Nothing is impossible. Just because YOU saw it happen does not mean it shouldn't happen.
ojideagu 8 months ago
@ojideagu you fail to realize the astronomical odds of what i wrote. its is even more impossible than the royal flush over quads scenario. the odds are even higher than winning a lottery ticket. i don't think you know the enormity of a specific pocket 10's quad happening back to back hands.
golfmaniac007 8 months ago
@golfmaniac007 Have you calculated it? Let's see your probability calculation. Also,
just because YOU see something does not mean it shouldn't happen.
Who exactly would benefit from 2 Quad tens in a row? The poker companies
make the same money whoever wins they aren't bothered.
ojideagu 8 months ago
@ojideagu never mind. you're impossible and can't understand what i'm saying.
golfmaniac007 8 months ago
@golfmaniac007 Where is your evidence? Just because something is not likely does not make it Impossible.
ojideagu 8 months ago
@ojideagu your pee brain is too small to comprehend. why don't you just go ask a pro poker player
golfmaniac007 8 months ago
@golfmaniac007 online poker is fake with a capital F as in FAKE :D they smiling in your face :D
Mannybanks00 8 months ago
@ojideagu what does roulette have to do with poker?. online is not the same as live poker. good luck with your theory. all I got to say is??...!!.. what they doing!! :D LOL life is complicated just enjoy the roller coaster ride till it's over brother HAHA!!. cheat if you can cheat and play if you can play. smiling in your face
Mannybanks00 8 months ago
@Mannybanks00 Everyone who's shit at online poker claims they are being cheated. The same with Chess. All online games are strictly regulated to make sure they stick to real life odds.
Roulette in real life you can have 12 reds in a row. You would probably think that is cheating. Well
that happens in real life too.
ojideagu 8 months ago
@ojideagu your not making sense again you junky. what does roulette and now chess?. HAHAHA!!. you must be a moron. god my eye's hurt my brain aches and they smiling in my face :D
Mannybanks00 8 months ago
@Mannybanks00 Roulette is a game of chance, it is gambling, so is a part of poker. They are strictly regulated. Things idiots like you think are "cheating" happen naturally if you play these games long enough. It's normal probability.
The poker companies make the same money whoever wins, the rake.
ojideagu 8 months ago
@ojideagu probability?. your making my head ache you fcking canadian guy. go collect some can eh?. go tell your lies to someone else eh. ok eh, people like you is what make the world not go round :D eh why don't you tell howard ledgeder why he NEVER PLAYED ONLINE POKER eh because he knows the s.hit he built is a scam :D ok eh canadian eh go back to your KAWAHAKE gaming comission and tell them to regulate a much better poker program :D ok eh.
Mannybanks00 8 months ago
@Mannybanks00 I'm not Canadian you fool, but I'm not a silly American conspiracy theorist either.
Unless you have hard evidence to back up your ridiculous claims, then you're talking rubbish.
Just because you SAW something happen does not in anyway mean it can't happen.
ojideagu 8 months ago
@ojideagu so what I'm telling you that the nature of the cards fall like water in the real world of live cards and online poker is created by a (MAN) and the Math that he sees fit. if there was a battle between God's house of poker and Man's house of poker I would choose the real cards shuffle over Man Made Machine witch don't really work and it will never (replicate) real live cards so in the end it's just all a fluke online poker is a fluke and it's purpose is for entertainment. PERIOD.
Mannybanks00 8 months ago
OUT OF BUSINESS SOON...NOTHING BUT PLAY CHIP PLAYERS THERE....LOL
iHatezJuice 9 months ago