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  • LUMOSITY.COM claims that their games are improving mental abilities and they claim that it's scientifically proven. Let's challenge THEM !!!

  • NICE BITCH!

  • do you excersice 6 weeks or play an instrument just that time , of course you don´t get almost nothing, but 5,000 hours is the amount of time the beatles play their instruments, it is 5,000 hours michael felps train before he got golden medalls.

  • First of, the games they used looked mentally effortless and like something that would be used to teach a pre-schooler mathematics. They should have used something legitimately challenging, like dual-n-back.

    Secondly, a few minutes of training a day for a period of 6 weeks isn't enough time for there to be any obvious effect. Just like many other forms of training, brain training takes a long time for one to achieve their desired outcome.

  • idk, but i have my own theory:

    organs need to be trained and maintained periodically or it will become dull. if a person can train and build up his/her muscles. why can't you train your brain (neuron, synapses, nerve, etc.)?

  • Perhaps indeed the study didn't last long enough, but that doesn't give any significance to the results of this experiment at all. At best you could say the results are inconclusive. But if anything it shows that any effect brain training might have had is so small that it doesn't even stand out from randomness and would most likely take a very long time to produce a noticable difference.

  • A small diff doesn't mean it will accumulate over time. It's not statisticly significant enough. The likelyhood that this small difference isn't just by chance is too low. If you have ever done any experiments in your school, you would know that even repeat readings can produce minor differences. The difference has to be large enough for it to mean anything. If their score decreased by 0.1, it wouldn't mean anything, you wouldn't claim that brain training decreases your bp by 19% per year..

  • These guys are telling you the truth. WTF is wrong with people getting offended.

  • Still it improved the brain by a bit. If they trained longer it would improve it by much more. Can't stop saying how bullshit this is omg

  • By the way how the fuck did they know it improve brain power? Count every neuron in the brain? Bullshiiiit

  • Rest of the world: Don't train your brains. Instead, spend all your free time browsing youtube and googling porn. I'll do all the brain training myself. I know it works!

  • bit.ly / lY0LsO

    Check out the link above—it's a brain training program called the ZOX Pro System, developed by Richard Welsh. With this system, there is so much potential that your brain is able to unlock!

  • So the subjects were asked to put in at least 10 min a day for six wks? That is not enough time to qualitatively improve your score. It's like asking wt. loss subjects to exercise 10 min a day and see if they lose weight. They won't. Your mind is a muscle and it reaches plateaus so it needs to be pushed.

  • This is only one study. Need more studies and data points.

  • theyre saying you train yourself its like the trick with the suger and the pills and saying your cured..w as human process very swiftly we judt get lost in overwhelming the brain with to many windows to many links..if yu would only focus yu can learn it alll plus the internet is where the games are tey bascally did the same thing they have to check it against average ppl who rarely study on the internet

  • Wow....how scientific???

  • IQ test itself does not say that much about overall intelligence. It is almost like the game, it just measures the performance of the respondent on that particular test. Anyway, I like brain games in general not because they've made me smarter. They have been good to my mental help, I used to suffer from high level of unhealthy self-consciousness, the game helped to be engaged in something out of myself, and playing them is absolutely mere beneficial than just sitting and watching sitcoms.

  • brain training isnt everything! your diet plays a major impact in mental function, plus this is only a small hypothesis. you can't improve your memory if you eat fast foods and arteficial colours and flavours, some of the stuff in today's foods just kills brain cells its that bad. oh and excersising is very important too for blood flow, these people were clearly not fit in the first place

  • it should have taken 30 seconds to explain this...not 4 freakin minutes

  • this proves that using internet does make you smarter (porn and mindless wow gaming not included).

  • wow way to burst my bubble

  • When that man says "It's statically not that big of difference".

    All I can say is LIAR, LIAR, LIAR!

    It will make a difference if you continue with your training like how you train to lose your wight but you'll only lose a few pounds in the first 6 weeks but over a long period of time there will a huge difference.

  • @TheFreeForever When the dude says that the .3 improvement is statistically insignificant, he means the variations in other things like what you ate for breakfast, how much sleep you got, time of day, etc. most likely played a bigger role in that .3 improvement than the brain training. Statistically insignificant means that it is impossible to draw a correlation between two things, not that number is too small to matter that much.

  • @logdogfrog Umm........

    They were doing those similar things before but didn't get a 4.9 but instead got a 4.6!

    Now how did it jump from 4.6 to 4.9?

    By doing the same old routine which, they did throughout their life, no. But instead because they had brain training for 6 weeks it kept their brains active and allowed the brain to absorb info as a result of activeness!

  • @TheFreeForever What you have failed to understand is the concept of error in tests. This is the concept refereed to in the phrase "statistically insignificant." I do not know how the results were computed. I do not know what the standard deviation of the results were. I do know; however, when a statistician says something is statistically insignificant, he means that the error is high enough for a result of .3 to be insignificant. Please, do your own research before you decide to be wrong again

  • @logdogfrog So, they had an error for both the studio workers and the average citizens results?

    How can you not know the deviation of the results or how the results were carried out? Have you watched the vid?

    The test was carried out on two different subjects and ironically both subjects had an increase in their iq after brain training!

  • @TheFreeForever Yes. They did. This is how testing works. It looks like there are a couple of things you're confused about. First of all, they were not testing IQ. An average IQ score is around 100. Since the average score was 4.3 or 4.6, it is obvious that they were doing some other test. Second: IQ and other intelligence tests do not test your intelligence, they test your performance on the intelligence test.

  • @TheFreeForever Your performance on the test is an approximation of your intelligence, and depending on the test, it can be a very good approximation, but nonetheless, there is always a difference between that approximation and reality. This is statistical error. ALSO, you clearly do not know what standard deviation is.

  • @logdogfrog You are absolutely pathetic!

    Why don't we all just jump of the bridge because scientists say it will help the environment, eh?

  • Of course this statistic was rigged. Media doesn't want smart people. Smart people do not watch TV. I'd say me remembering stuff I didn't some 9 months ago is a good enough proof that brain training works just fine.

    Also, remember kids. Statistics are mathematically proven to be unable to make any true assertion.

  • All the claims of magical boosts are grossly unjustified, and really just represent bad thinking on behalf of the public. Honestly, study some science.

  • @DarkKnightBob1o1 objective analysis there. not.

  • This study was there to show if there was a difference in methods.

    Brain training gives you NO extra benefit no matter HOW long you use it.

    You're not going to magically 'get some magical boost' after 3months using the exact same tools over anything else.

    Despite all the ad hoc excuses on here the truth from this is simply not that brain training is bad, but that it is no worse or better than any other tool out there on the market.

    People who declare some conspiracy are just F*cking morons!

  • @DarkKnightBob1o1 you have your opinion others each to there own. But swearing and carrying on doesn't change anything.

  • @L1V1T the fact remains. They are morons. Jeese I even bother to **** it out and you still have people bitching.

  • @DarkKnightBob1o1 lol oh gawd your pathetic.. just keep re-reading my second reply.. and eventually it will sink into your head. And if you cant figure out what I was tryin to get across. Then you will have to look up the true definition of the word moron, as it will apply to you.

    OR

    You can reply back with another immature pointless comment that will (HINT) "not change anything!" ???? It's up to you "DarkKnight"

  • @L1V1T and just how exactly does the government

    'control' the bbc in it's experiments.

    I hope you were joking. however given the mentality on here I suspect not.

  • @DarkKnightBob1o1 I was stating my opinion to do with the experiment being wrong. As I have a big interest in, (bold terms) the brain and how it can re-wire it's self with special training, leading to specially tuned/re-wired brains for the job/sport or improvement in general memory which helps many in different aspects. The gov controlling the media was mere sarcasim as I was not happy with the end result. Most would read the original comment including it's punctuals. And suspect it as sarcasim

  • you do realise this is youtube right and the kinds of people we're dealing with?

  • @DarkKnightBob1o1 Yes I realise this is youtube.. The kinds of people we're dealing with??

  • BBC is wrong. Brain training has been proven to work by many brain longevity specialists, neurologist, professors and doctors. I dont know why BBC has such a bad end result with this study. It might have something to do with the government controlling the media, who know's. But I can assure you that this bias study is a complete FAIL.

  • @L1V1T objective analysis there. not.

  • they should have researched neurofeedback instead on games.

  • lmao! Always do the opposite of what the BBC want. Weather its stay indoors because of swine flu, take vacciniations, avoid food suppliments and vitamins, apathy towards GMO food, believe in global warming, stay indoors because of toxic ash, turn your lights off because of your carbon footprint.. Any idea, thought, veiwpoint they put out, do and think the opposite. They only want to control you. wake up..

  • @sonofhendrix So what do you do when at the end of crimewatch they say "Don't have nightmares"? How about when they tell children to get adults to help them using scissors? Best of all, when the say "Don't try this at home", you're suggesting we do it all? You're awesome.

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  • In the paper we state that people were asked to log in for approximately 10 mins per day several times per week, but (importantly) the range (as stated in the paper) was 2-188 sessions over 6 weeks. People could train for as much or as little as they wanted. The 10 mins per day several times per week was simply the guide they were given. Some people trained hundreds and hundreds of time. Strangely enough, they didn't improve either.....

  • This study simply wasn't conducted over a long enough period of time. If brain games improve your score by .3 every 6 weeks (will most likely be more of a plateau effect though), you would go from 4.6 to 7.2 in just one year, which is a 56% increase in brain power. I'd take that.

  • @lunchboxxxxxxxxx and while you do that I surf the internet and increase the same amount... I'd take that :P

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  • @lunchboxxxxxxxxx "If brain games improve your score by .3 every 6 weeks..." No, the man clearly stated that there was NO STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT INCREASE. That means, by definition, 0.0 improvement in score over the course of 6 weeks and THAT means 0.0 increase over the course of a year. I'm sorry, but your statement is invalid.

  • @lunchboxxxxxxxxx ur plateua effect theory sounds more probable

  • @lunchbox You're wrong. I'm a statistics major at UPenn, and simply put, the results aren't significant enough to conclude any major difference, let alone implying that a full year would increase brain power. You should also take into account that "Brain Training" is merely a 'brain-ier' way of playing a game. In essence, over time you get better at playing the game. In other words, your brain power isn't increasing, your skill in that particular task is (in this case the game)

  • @lunchboxxxxxxxxx That was exactly what i was thinking about :P

  • It's not that surprising that brain training never works, because it never claimed to do what they was testing. So this was a waste of time and money.

  • @hamsterdance4lyf08 Fully agreed.

  • Good. Brain training is utter bollocks.

    Its not a game, maths is not a game, Mario Cart is a game. And thanks to this, it shows it doesn't make you any smarter, faster or alert. Somthing the not-so-gulliable people already suspected.

    Best Theory bang yet.

  • @AlexTheRussianAnt Brain training is brilliant, by the way, you spelled Kart wrong. Brain training isn't meant to make you smarter by the way, they're just little fun activities. This experiment however is utter bollocks.

  • Well alot of people do believe it makes them smarter. Thanks to the way the game is advertised. Enlightening such morons is worthwhile. Which i think makes this 'experiment' consequently worthwhile.

    I don't know whats worse, buying brain training in the hope you grow smarter or buying it because you find simple maths and spelling tasks fun.

  • @AlexTheRussianAnt I like playing brain training because doing those simple tasks and practicing to beat your own time I find is quite satisfying and enjoyable, much like Mario Kart is, funnily enough, except Mario kart involves racing in Karts.

  • I'd expect as much. Coincides with the way your pedantically persuing a spelling mistake i made. Thrilled to see that the culmination of your brain training as enabled you to be so anul.

    Do you have anything else to say about the actual experiment?

  • @AlexTheRussianAnt Huh? I wasn't trying to insult you by pointing out that spelling mistake, I just thought i'd mention it as Carts and Karts are two completly different things, otherwise I wouldn't have mentioned that you made a spelling mistake.

  • No, you don't have anything else to say on the actual experiment. I couldn't care less how Mahreeoh Cartuh is spelt. After the N64 version I lost intrest.

  • @AlexTheRussianAnt Yes, I do have something else to say on the experiment, I'm kinda losing interest in this conversation now, but I'll say it anyway, but then you're going to keep replying, so If I just ignore you, I won't have to waste time explaining why I think this experiment it dumb. Ok, I'll say it, the people doing this experiment are looking at the wrong thing, they're trying to see if brain training improves your IQ, which it obviously doesn't, as it doesn't teach anything new.

  • Complain about it but it takes a reply from you to summon a reply from me.

    Idiots think it improves brain power, this experiment teaches something new to them.

  • i dont know how any1 can see this as valid , it wasnt exactly a controlled test , letting them go home and 'brain train' when they want. For all we know , they cud of played the game once for 5 minutes

  • But how do you know the brain training ones weren't just secretly watching porn all 6 weeks?

  • @Freemmaann Because they checked their palms for hair and nobody went blind.!

  • @Freemmaann Take the idiotic conclusion why don't you.

  • : )

  • What a LOAD of crap. BBC, spend your money on something more useful than this please. For a start, Nintendo NEVER claimed that it makes you smarter, as it dsoesn't teach anything new. Instead, Brain Training is mant to be fun (It is a game after all) activities to stimulate your brain, not to raise your IQ. This test was completly pointless and rather stupid actually.

  • @EpicPlaythroughs of course Nintendo themselves never advertised the games as helping your IQ - they didn't develop them! A lot of these games are advertised as boosting your intelligence. This study does have a lot of scientific impact, asthese regimes have been developed by leading mental health experts (like Dr Kawashima for example), and clearly they serve no benefit.

  • @Supabof93 And they're not meant to! So this experirent has been NINTENDOWNED!

  • @EpicPlaythroughs I <3 that! Nintendowned :P

    While not initially developed as such, they're definitely perceived as boosting your intelligence by the public, partly by advertising

  • @Supabof93 I like that term too, I didn't make it up, but I liked it so much I thought I'd use it.+

  • @EpicPlaythroughs Last time I checked it was called 'brain TRAINING' and not 'brain FUN STIMULATING ACTIVITIES'

  • @thereturnofda111 Yes, it's called brain training, not "ZOMG IT RAISES YOUR IQ" Training=/=Raising IQ levels or learning anything new.

  • @EpicPlaythroughs definition of training:

    action of the verb to train; the activity of imparting and acquiring skills

    and this has shown you don't meaningfully acquire any skills.

    I look forward to your response

    thereturnofda

    xx

  • @thereturnofda111 Well, there are several different definitions of the word training, the way I see it, training simply means to get better at one specific skill, and not actually learning anything new. The English OXford dictionary never mentions acquiring any new skills at all.

  • @EpicPlaythroughs Well done, you've just described exactly why Brain Training doesn't work, because YOU DO NOT GET BETTER IN ANY SPECIFIC SKILL, despite it being advertised as Brain Training.

    Jesus christ.

  • @thereturnofda111 Yes I have, because it was completly obvious, thats why this experiment is rubbish!

  • @EpicPlaythroughs You're unbelievably dense.

  • @thereturnofda111 Would you mind explaining why?

  • @EpicPlaythroughs You'd think that someone would be able to work out why a game called Brain Training that does not actually do any training is slightly out of order.

  • @thereturnofda111 Key word: "GAME"

  • @EpicPlaythroughs Ha, alright, you're obviously on the wind up. I hope.

  • first

  • @jackmanrocks97 As for you, you're comment was a pointless as the test they did in the video, and the video itself.

  • @jackmanrocks97 no ure not first

  • @usb908 yh i am  :)

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