1L Lessons Learned

[365to173repubsPWNED]

Funny part is...forget them being gay or not....Law School and Law School debt is the thing that will fuck both of them in the ass.

[Drew1991ful]

love u guys, keep em coming 

[ModelCitixen]

Really helpful to new law school students.

[TheCdsport]

Amazing! Love your videos!

[soyrizo]

Awesome video guys! thanks!

[punkgirlSFS]

You guys=AWESOMENESS :DDD LOL love your videos! Thanks!

[MsSmiley1111]

I love you guys

starting Law School this fall.

[MsSmiley1111]

I love you guys

starting Law School this fall.

[matt182martin]

Why are all the comments about them being gay? Who gives a flying fuck, I'm just here to learn about their opinions on law school.

[yumiko0017]

@matt182martin exactly i agree on that.

[cassafox]

Hey guys...what song's playing during #2?

By the way, you guys are SO RIGHT ON. In the midst of second semester...woof.

[Arad737]

I'm not gay but these guys are the perfect example of how gay people should be. They don't pretend and they are genuine.

So what they are gay? They are extremely warm and nice people. With 10 great advices. I just had to favorite this the fraction second #1 rolled off. Made me laugh.

I not only wish all gay people behaved like them, I wish every human being behaved like them. Kudos to you both. Certainly the type of people I want to have a beer with.

[OurBump]

Can you tell us exactly what you study in la school? I'm going there next year getting nervous about what's waiting for me... I live in france so the system might be different but globally what do you study?

[dvsbmx]

@OurBump You should look for a course catalog on the website of the school you're applying to. Things like torts, contracts, civil and criminal procedure will be studied in law school.

Note: I'm not in law school however I'm in an applied legal studies undergraduate program and should be in law school within 2 years.

[MrSmiles4miles]

You guys are such an inspiration to me! You seem so calm and relaxed with an air of wisdom and knowledge! Godd job, Law school is coming for me in the next few years.

[philliesphan312]

Ouch, I spelled rhetoric wrong! Must have been distracted by how gay these guys are.

[xTRAPJAWx]

Any chance I'm going to get through my first year with a newborn baby?

[TheTnuggs]

k ppl who cares if there gay omg big deal its the 20th century get over it and be happy for them

[StopIllegalAliens01]

Please post school name, class rank, and OCI results.

[philliesphan312]

Hey, thanks genius, it was retorical. I will remember that when i ask a question. For example, How many cocks have you sucked in your life?

[panatha4life]

@philliesphan312 yikesabee.. fail?

[panatha4life]

you guys might not be gay but you sure are queers, great 10 tips!

corny dot com slash you guys

[jpsartrean]

Interesting.... You're writing class is graded? Ours is pass fail (as I believe most are). Plus, you had to write TWO appellate briefs? Rough...

[WarrenAch]

@jpsartrean Pass/Fail ? Lucky bastard...lol

[jpsartrean]

@WarrenAch Lol... just noticed that typo in my post - should have been 'your' not 'you're' - lucky it was pass/fail indeed!! ;-)

[WarrenAch]

@jpsartrean So, how you're supposed to get into BigLaw if there's no grade system...

Internship in a firm during the summer and rock their socks, then wait for some partner to give you an Interview or a spot.?

Or just find an articling spot and try to network as many contacts as possible ?

Is your School at T14 ?

[thomaswiehl]

You guys are awesome! Thanks so much for your helpful videos.

[WarrenAch]

Things to consider BEFORE entering Law School:

1:Debts,if you don't have someone to pay for you,forget about Law,debt will make you a Banker's sex slave for 30 years on end.

2:Sorry to break it to ya,but School rankings matter,if you DON'T plan on joining a T14 Law school (+ McGill and a few others),FORGET ABOUT LAW.

3:If you're in for the money and expect a high paying job straight out,FORGET ABOUT LAW,you need interest to pursue this field and make the big bucks.

Listen to this,GL...

[VeritasTruthEmet]

@WarrenAch lol, what is t14? And McGill is McGill. You got that right ;)!

[WarrenAch]

@VeritasTruthEmet Top 14 Schools,these schools have the highest placement rate,in fact,even the guy in the bottom 20% of the class will STILL find a job because he was in a Prestigious University.

McGill is also the number 1 Canadian University and American Law Firms love them.(I know 7 of my friends who were in McGill law that got in BigLaw at NYC straight out.)

[VeritasTruthEmet]

@WarrenAch we know McGill is the shit. However, there is much more opportunity here in Canada than in the USA. The dual degree for code civil du quebec and common law is best used within this country. I don't see the advantage of New York over Toronto.

[VeritasTruthEmet]

@WarrenAch also, essentially all Canadian law schools have extremely high standards. This is especially evident when our few schools are compared with the hundreds of American schools. All law schools in Canada are quite respected and all of our schools are extremely competitive. I am pretending Windsor does not exist, its the Cooley of Canada.

[WarrenAch]

@VeritasTruthEmet Hahah you're actually right!

As long as you don't get into Moncton Faculty of Law,you have very good chances to land up a great job straight out.

I live in Montreal and i have the chance to be a "CEGEP Candidate" for McGill Law School,which is easier than University applicants and tuition will cost only 3500$/year ! NO DEBT !

If i change my mind about Medicine,i'll definitely pick up that opportunity and join McGill.

Yes,Toronto is a better deal than NYC. =)

[VeritasTruthEmet]

@WarrenAch yeah one of the brothers in my Frat went straight from Marianopolis (sp) into McGill Law beating the rest of us to it by several years. I have no idea to this day what an "R score" is since I came to McGill from outside of Quebec but I think he had an R30.... its supposedly quite rare. Since you already know how awesome la ville du montreal is I dont even have to try to explain why there is no better place to be a student. I LOVE montreal! How could anyone not love the nightlife?

[WarrenAch]

@VeritasTruthEmet Actually,entering McGill Law from CEGEP requires a R34 on average (90%-95% cummulative grades.)

Moncton and UQAM are known to be the WORST Universities for Law,i know a UQAM grad who graduated in 2008,still looking for a job,he's now switching to Administration jobs.

No,you don't need to be brilliant to enter McGill Med or Law,just the discipline to get good grades as your GPA will grant you the Interview and from there,yourself only will decide what will happen...

[VeritasTruthEmet]

@WarrenAch I swear I had no idea moncton had a university.... I just looked up the rankings and apparently UQAM has a bloody faculte d droit too? I had no idea. I'm going to stop bashing Windsor now that UQAM is playing ball. hahaha a UQAM degree. That's a shock.

[VeritasTruthEmet]

@WarrenAch McGill med is the best in Canada also. However, you will have your own human corpse to cut apart (its very morbid). There is NO way I could ever handle that. Plus, I am not trekking my way from the bloody Ghetto up the hill way past McTavish to Maconnel. It just aint worth the frost bite to visit a cadaver. Gross. lol. But for real, if you get into McGill med you are brilliant.

[Powerules]

Great advice guys. One other point that I would highlight is staying on top of your outlines. I chuckle when I observe my classmates constructing outlines days before finals. Although I tend to have long outlines, I take comfort in knowing everything that the prof discussed is included. It's easier to pare material, as opposed to adding feverishly as you draw close to an exam.

[Fortinbras]

Thank You.

[PoshConcept]

This was really helpful. Thank you!

[Babydoll25257]

Why don't you people leave these guys alone if they're gay it's they're life and they're problem.

[pumpkinheads79]

Dudes I think they're GAY!!!!

[DrMadz]

@pumpkinheads79 WAAATT?

[MrPlummer]

thanks

[neweuquol]

The only part of this I disagree with is I do not think you should wait until the end of the year to do outlines. When I was in law school, I did my outlines every Friday and Saturday after that week's classes. It took a great deal of stress off my shoulders and I was learning the information at a more natural pace.

When it time to study for classes, I found I was able to spot issues in past exams without referring to the outlines as much as some of the people in my "study group."

[redresch]

I really dig this video. I just received my acceptance letter for law school next semester, and.... well, I'm extremely excited and terrified at the same time. This video gave me a bit of much appreciated insight into the first year. Thanks!

[blackberryjuice1]

God, why don't you two kiss each other already. Jeez.

[TheBluebird23]

Aww, I heart your videos please please keep them coming! :) (i know i always post the same thing, i don't care! i love you guys!)

[malxneal]

what music was playing during advice # 2?

[Raspout1981]

Some of their tips are contradictions...

[jonbolsins]

what are you talking about

[SF67guy]

You guys are adorable! Wish I could do law school again...DID I JUST SAY THAT???

[Kzatrini]

Okay, this is good advice if you have time to follow it. I was an evening student working a full time job with 2 kids under 2, there was no time to read at all, let alone not fall behind. You can coast if you need to, if you're not in the top 10% forget about a dream job and just try to graduate.

[technologicx1991]

ty for the advice! I've just finished my first term of law school and unfortunately I fell behind on the reading! Looks like I gotta lotof catching up reading to do over these christmas holidays...

[byron84]

I have a feeling that these guys gave each other oral exams after recording this.

[bnote1990]

@byron84 lmfao they seem sincere so its all good

[Benjiko]

So which one of you pitches, and which catches?

[Gnickk]

I want to see a kiss.

[Benjiko]

These guys are gayer than a male virgin at a prison rodeo.

[Gnickk]

I don't actually think that they are, but what does it have to do with virginity?

[Gnickk]

Never mind.

[kuwait85]

@Benjiko...... hahaha

but these videos are helpful!

[dreedears]

Hahaha, everything you guys said is so true. I'm in my first year of law and that is exactly it. I wish i would have seen this prior to law school.

[westendKisa]

you two sound a bit like gunners........do not approve of this.

[warpaint1739]

awesome advice! Thanks

[lastdiciple08]

u guys are pretty cool dudes

[Woodenbricks123]

Uh, I get to play lots of WoW?

[WarrenAch]

Even if it's the summer,you'll still have to prepare for next year,which means,you won't have ALL the summer to enjoy WoW,especially in Law and Medical Schools.

[Woodenbricks123]

hah I love that.

Just to clear things up a bit I meant to put that in quotes so

"Uh, I get to play lots of WoW?"

[coreyalan23]

You speak a lot better than you think you do. Thanks for the advice.

[bbjmac87]

thanks guys this video helped out very much!! You guys rock

[thundakat29]

Keeping up with readings is not crucial in many classes. Knowing how to take the test is.

[tamesthetic]

i like the blue rainbow shirt with the unicorn. you guys are performing a great service.

[MacPr0xnxx0]

what did u guys major as a undergrad?

[JediBrian]

I (the blue unicorn shirt guy) majored in Speech Communicatons and Jesse majored in Poli Sci

[MacPr0xnxx0]

ic which law school do you guys attend any tips of scoring a high score on the LSAT does it really matter what you major in?

[WarrenAch]

The best way to score a higher in the LSAT is,study for it,deal with stress,if you feel bored and tired while studying,buy a redbull...it's made for students anyway,no sports.You can Major in pretty much anything before law school,but you must have GOOD grades,most of people who go to law school majored in psychology,sciences,lots of other programs....but i don't know if this system works where you live,so just ask in your city...

[WarrenAch]

I have a question,how was your experience in the fist years???Did you had a social "life" or you needed to study 24/7 ???was it easy to deal with stress ???

sorry for these questions but i wanna join law school soon,also,i heard its a scam,and there is lots of unemployment,is that true ???,another question,how much a lawyer gets a year when he starts and after like 5-10 years ???,so if my questions are dumb but im very curious about what is coming for me...lol

[lhiggs]

My advice is not to worry too much about making an outline. And if you must outline, keep it SHORT: only about 15 pages or so of the TOP TEN most important topics covered in class because there's no way a teacher can fit 90 pages of outline into a three hour exam. Also, take COPIOUS NOTES with the rules, the reasoning behind the rules, and any other "golden nuggets" the teacher may emphasize. Remember, your NOTES can serve as an outline. Also, SUPPLEMENTS will help with class and finals.

[pizzacat83]

This is solid advice all around, except the bit about recording classes. Some professors won't allow people to record their lectures and WILL bust a person's chops if they catch them doing it. It happened to someone when I sat through a class during a tour.

If a professor allows people to record their lectures, then do it, but when in doubt, don't.

[icantstandfags]

nice shirt that was initially intended to make fun of shit-eaters like yourself.

is that a pic of jesus behind two fags? wtf is this?

[annelisejensen]

I also found it very useful, and entertaining!

[asierra87]

Thanks to both of you. I am a future law student, hopefully, and your advice is priceless and assuring.

[Benjiko]

This "advice" is so obvious a retard could figure it out.

[JediBrian]

Glad it was helpful to you then.

[Benjiko1]

My point is that it's NOT helpful. It's just inane common sense drivel dressed up in a cutesy way to make it appear novel. But thanks for playing anyway.

[JediBrian]

Well, as it appears that others have found it helpful, I suppose I'll take you as the anomaly. However, I don't believe we stated that this was "advice you'll never figure out on your own." Even so, sometimes things are nice to hear in advance, so that you do not have to learn them on your own, or at least have someone point certain things out for you to watch for. After all, we can't all be super geniuses like you.

[Prodigies]

I should have gotten this advice during undergrad.

[SignInToPostReply]

I'm no Unicorn taxonomist, perhaps you can enlighten me- do both sexes of Unicorn have horns, or just the males?

Thanks for the well thought out advice!

S

[quietstormprod]

very fun vid! thanks for it. i'm in the process of deciding if I want to take the direction of going to law school? I've done some searching and reading about law school and it seems very INTIMIDATING! but you guys made it seem not so bad, not that I'm naive I think its all fun and dandy but just that you two made it seem accomplishable - with your skin left on! hehehehe. thanks! =)

[Kapuchin24]

Start outlining early! You won't be able to outline in a meaningful manner if you leave it for the last week!

[tkimel]

You guys are adorable! Thanks for the videos.

[bradlacey]

Is there some unicorn on unicorn love happening in that shirt? Brilliant.

Oh, the video was good too. You guys are funny.

[philliesphan312]

The rainbow shirt really gives it away

[philliesphan312]

Are these dudes gay!

[jessemnix]

Yes we are. Great job Sherlock.

[panatha4life]

@philliesphan312 homos!!

[philliesphan312]

Sorry youtube was your coming out party!

[January16th]

great advice!...I'm not a law student but i do go to university so I know what you mean by comparing yourself to others...I do it all the time even though I know i shouldn't ....this makes me feel a lot better knowing that I'm not the only person who feels that way lol :)

[katski081383]

I think you forgot this:

PRACTICE YOUR PENMANSHIP.

it's pointless that you're writing something with substance but your professor cannot read your penmanship.

Here in the Philippines we study for 4 years and sometimes 5 years if you're a working student.

STUDY HARD, PARTY HARD!

[chibilightofhope]

Wow! thanks a lot guys! I've been feeling really down recently because I've been so intimidated by people who are able to articulate themselves better than I can. You have no idea how much you have given me hope :)

Looking forward to WoW again in the summer,

Diana

1L at American University

[snage007]

cool unicorn shirt :D...

[RiloK]

when are you guys gonna make new videos?!

[littleerica23]

I started law school yesterday and I feel like I've been in law school for two years not two days! thanks for putting a smile on my face :)

[robm425]

What did you use to record class? I am still in oreintation right now but start thursday and need advice on what recorder might be pretty good

[helikesit]

you guys make me want to go to visit utah.

[jansensagt]

Awesome.

[rascoma]

yeah!

what about the commitment? ( weekly updates )

and i loved the advices... though i must there's something missing at the end of the video... the kiss! =)

u guys r really amazing, keep posting and have fun during the summer break. next week ill have winter break here... ready to start 3o year in law school.... ( here in Brazil we study for 5 years, not 3 )

[ttmobaleaaa]

I would love to know how you both mea

[Jnsparrow]

Nerd Alert!!!! hehe

[alissabeard]

Funniest advice ever from Professor Crim Law - "Smoking pot in college, eh, not so bad. Smoking pot in law school, BIG DEAL!!!!"

Complete with arm movements and dramatic pauses.

[tyreseus]

Nerds. ;)

9 days until my LSAT. I'm so nervous.

[meshellrae69]

I'm so glad you made this video!!! I'm starting law school at WVU in the fall. I've missed you guys !!!!!!