Nobody expects more from Sarah. But Gingrich has the intellectual capacity to understand that every single clip shown following Sarah's statement about our Iraq operations being "a mission from God" was fundamentally different. Despite Sarah's quote from Lincoln, her statement clearly suggested that God is on our side, not that we need to try to be on His side. The other quotes asked for God's blessing and guidance, expressing humbleness before Him. Not so Sarah's simplistic hubris
We all need to wake up. All this isn't about liberals vs conservatives christains vs other beliefs. I like the patriot movement because it is bringing to light many issues long held by far left thinkers, ie the fed reserve. Sorry to say the media is not liberal, do some research on corporate sponsors, follow the money. Anyway the news on television is full of fluff with absolutely nothing of substance, so please stop crying liberal media and start researching the facts outside corp.
In case you had any doubts who the mainstream media supports: In 2008, 88% of contributions from employees at ABC/CBS/NBC went to Democratic candidates. Is that fair and balanced?
One thing is clear in this video.....The democrats of today are a far cry from the party of the 40's-50's-60's
The demoncrats of today have declared God out of America, "we are no longer a Christian Nation"
May God have mercy, and give us a new Adminstration who honors God, as well as the brains to realize you cant tax your way to success, or by killing free enterprise.
Pray a rebel Democrat runs against Obama, a brave Independent or a wise Republican
@theophilus46 AMEN!! Today democrats are nothing but marxist who hijacked the democratic party 40 years ago.. then drugged up draft dodging radicals of the 60's70s went into politics and the education system to destroy the united states. From the inside, 40 years later thier plans have come to fruition. Just look at the white house adminstration they are all damn near all marxist. scumbags are even quoting chairman mao. most democrats unknowingly have become traitors to the constitution
Palin is an IDIOT and you Fundies are NOT CHRISTIAN but Fucking ZIONISTS Jesus Christ would NOT be Seen with Any of You Bigotted Bastards, FUCK the USA nothing but a TERRORIST MURDERING STATE. The USA has the DUMBE$ST people on Earth. No wonder you're so Hated only second to your Bastard child IsraeHELL the Other TERRORIST State. Rot and Burn in Hell you Racists bastards.
This video equates asking for God's blessing with saying that Bush's decision to go war/the mission in Iraq is God's will. Did FDR, JFK, or Bill Clinton claim that any of the military operations they decided to undertake were missions from God??
You are a dumbfuck who needs to actually watch the video. Did Palin "claim that any of the military operations they decided to undertake were missions from God"? (Btw, if you answer anything other than, "No, I was a dumbfuck and need to shut up," then you are a liar.)
I'm sorry Tommygun, that your attitude and Youtube moniker betray your penis envy. But more to the point: You can actually trying answering the question I've asked. If you're indeed so much smarter than me.
Between the false statement at the beginning of your bullshit post and omitting Palin's name from your question, you seek to imply the same lie spoken by Chuckie Gibson. That makes you a liar. I will answer your question when you either admit your lie or produce proof you are right.
I'm not accusing Charlie Gibson of anything. Gibson didn't edit this video. The thrust of it is clearly to compare Palin with responsible non-ego maniacs like Roosevelt, Lincoln, etc...but asking for God's blessing IS NOT THE SAME as claiming that Bush's political decision (in contradiction to available intelligence, international law) is a mission from God. Omitting Palin's name is irrelevant, we all know who we're talking about. Asking for a blessing does not mean the mission is from God.
Your dumbass insults and your slander of President Bush aside, your statement is correct--they are not the same. And that is the point of the video. None of the figures mentioned--FDR, Clinton, JFK, Lincoln, or Palin--either equated the two or "claiming that [their respective missions in question was] a mission from God." You attempt to imply Palin did make such a claim, which is false. Otherwise, you would have no problem with the video.
And there, this asshole explicitly repeats, by out-of-context quotation, the same lie uttered by Chuckie Gibson. He asserted before that Palin "claimed" the mission was from God, yet we see by listening to the whole sentence (start at 0:25) that his proof-phrase comes from a sentence where she says to "pray" that it is from God--"Pray... that our leaders--our national leaders--are sending them out on a task that is from God".
Thank you for proving yourself a liar, motherfucker!
I'm not an asshole. I'm concerned that so many people put their trust in someone who believes that God elevated her and that witchcraft is a real force in the world today. Someione who claims to love books and magazines but can't name one that she reads when questioned (certainly THAT question is not out of context). as for your "context" I think we all know what the context is from the right -m because we have been told repeateldy that the US stands for God and Christianity, etc...
As for the "context" she does say we have to make sure that by praying it is from God. Problem is, these people BELIEVE IT IS. Otherwise, you wouldn't have characterized my remarks about Bush as "slander."
"Bigot?" We have freedom of conscience in this country. Calling me names has nothing to do with the issue. On the other hand, if you believe in Unicorns, I wouldn't exactly be thrilled if you ran for office. And HELLO, Bush told Blair why he wanted to go to war, because God wanted it. So this is not made up. He violated internationalw law/civil rights/4th amendment multiple times because God told him to do it. Just like the Salem Witch trials, if not - explain your term "slander."
"'Bigot?' We have freedom of conscience in this country." Not if your conscience in any supports traditional America or leads to oppose, say, Islam. Then one is a "bigot." So, whereas that religion cannot be attacked, no religion can be attacked. You attacked Sarah Palin's religion. Therefore, you are a bigot. Or are you demanding a double-standard? If you are, then shut the fuck up now, because the only double-standard I'll give will go against dumbfucks like you.
Criticizing a religion doesn't make me a bigot, anymore than I would be a bigot (or Bush) for condeming Wahabism. By your definition, conservatives are bigots, when they criticize Islam. Ridiculous.
According to the politically correct, any criticism of Islam is bigoted, while Christianity (and to a lesser extent, Judaism) can be freely attacked. That is because they like how Islamic terrorists target the West. As Ann Coulter once said, "If it wasn't for terrorism, liberals would hate Islam."
I'm neither politically correct, nor a fan of Coulter. Both Islam and Israel deserve criticism. I'm also a free speech advocate, which was obvious on my channel before the sucky YT redesign, as I mirrored some vids critical of Islam.
BTW, you also show yourself to be racist by your shot about "witchcraft." The incident to which you refer was a blessing on Palin by a BLACK AFRICAN minister! If anyone involved in that believes in "witchcraft," it is him, and he must not be criticized. You were "culturally insensitive" in your statement, especially considering the widespread belief in such things there, and had he placed the blessing on a Black--or a White liberal--a comment like yours would be so labeled by the PC police.
It wouldn't matter to me whether the minister in question was Black, Chinese, or Martian, They attacked a woman who they accused of producing misfortune in a community. This would be like slaughtering all the black cats - they created a scapegoat for their superstition and assaulted an innocewnt person.
Now, if I criticize the Salem Witch Trials, does that make me ant-Anglo? DOES IT, TOMMY??
How dare you force your Western--i.e., White--values on Africans! Wow. If not for the fact you attacked Sarah Palin for her (non-Muslim) faith, you'd be in violation of so many PC laws.
BTW, if you did attack the Witch Trials, you would indeed be considered anti-Anglo by the PC people, and they would love you for it. They might even overlook your judgmental view of African culture.
Here you're just being a jackass, because political correctness has nothing to do with it - you cannot criticize it, Tommy, and then HIDE BEHIND IT.
Now, Tommy, the guy was a Christian minister, but honestly it doesn't matter, I would expect an American to condone threatening her (the accused lady) and her life.
LOL You really don't get it. I'm making a point about the couble-standard. You could NEVER get away with taking shots at Islam the way you lied about Palin (your out-of-context quotation and your "witchcraft" assertion).
You are actually the one hiding behind PC. It's open season on Palin, & the minister supported Palin, so you get a pass on what would otherwise be viewed by them as "hate speech". Before you tell your lies about the Rightwing Christian, you should think about that.
I MIRRORED ant-Koranic videos. I don't give a damn. So I don't understand why you're injecting the pc crowd into this, it has nothing to do with me. What you're trying to do is to say that I can't criticize Christians as long as some Liberals don't criticize Islam. WELL let me be clear:
ISREAL, ISLAM, AND CHRISTIANITY ALL DESERVE IT. Now, can we get on with the issue at hand, you know the one where a Minister would advocate killing a human being because she brings "bad luck."
No, you idiot. The "issue at hand" is your lying about Governor Palin. First, you repeat the Gibson lie to slander her. Then you implicate her with "witchcraft" because some African minister concerned with the matter prays for a blessing on her in church.
I don't give a fuck about you criticizing "Jesus freaks," "kikes," or "towelheads." Attack that minister all you want. But drop the lying on here about Palin.
Now, as for your slander: 1. The war was and is legal: Hussein--the other "Hussein"--violated UNSC resolutions; the U.S. acted to defend what they saw as their interests, which is allowed under the UN charter; "the Constitution does not follow the flag," and so constitutional issues do not apply to what we do to Iraq or Iraqis; the precedent of attacking the Barbary States without a declaration of war. Hence, that accusation is false--a slander. CONT...
You don't know what you're talking about. The UN charter allows for self-defense, yes. But only in well defined cases. The other country either has to attack, or is preparing an attack. The war with Iraq was PREemptive. Also, I suggest you wiki the "Supremacy clause" cause you clearly don't understand that.
Hussein violated 17 UN resolutions and the cease-fire from the 1991 Gulf War. By doing so, he voided the cease-fire. The 2003 war was, in that legal sense, the continuation of the 1991 conflict.
What constitutes "self-defense" must always be a decision we ourselves make. To have it otherwise is to give up sovereignty.
I appreciate your points about the Supremacy Clause. However, if a foreign treaty is seen as overriding our Constitution's grant of authority (or in other contexts, our guarantees of rights), then the Constitution is meaningless.
B. Disagree, but that goes far beyond the scope of the origin of this conversation, namely, that you lied about Governor Palin, and then brought in a red herring of another lie.
Say what you will about the Gulf Wars or the PC double-standard, you still stand guilty of those lies.
And if that is your vaguely-honest opinion of Palin, that is fine.
As for that line, I found the video (huffingtonpost. com/ 2008/09/02/ palins-church-may-have-sh_n_123205. html# postComment ). It is basically in context, though it comes across as an unscripted aside.
You raise and honest and legitimate issue and have every right to disagree and criticize her fo it. That is because IT'S NOT ANOTHER ONE OF YOUR LIES. So go ahead and do so, though this video really isn't the place.
2. Most of the international community believed Hussein--the other "Hussein" had WMDs, even those opposed to the invasion, thus demonstrating the reasonableness of the belief and debunking your claim Bush knew there were none there. Hence, it is a slander.
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So, we have a liar, a religous bigot, a racist, and a slanderer attacking Sarah Palin for something she didn't say. This person has no credibility, and needs to shove their bullshit of their ass..
If the US DID believe he had WMD, an invasion would have spread the WMD to all corners of the Middle East, and they wouldn't have attacked because he would have USED the biological and Nuclear (Remember Chjeny said on Meet the Press, that he KNEW Hussein had a Nuke) against either Israel or us. Or, under the invasion would have forced his hand and he would have given it to Hamas, etc...But he didn't have any, and in fact I knew he didn't at the time because I listened to Amb. Wilson, etc...
The last true, competent, moral leader the GOP had was Barry Goldwater. Since then, the party has been adrift. We got Tricky Dick and Ford, then Reagan who was a great leader but let the religious zealots into the tent. Then we got the Bush era, which brought us new levels of crime and incompetence.
It would be great to follow up Bush with Palin... then we'll be sure to kill off the GOP for good.
Barry is rolling and crying in his grave. I weep for true conservatives.
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Oh, PLEASE! Palin is CLEARLY nuts and DOES believe that we're fighting a holy war. Gibson was not out of line AT ALL. Too bad this little mix-up of a YouTube video doesn't show all of what Palin actually said. She's nuts. And anybody who defends her insane will be deemed nuts, too. So keep it up, GOP. Fight the "media elites" and defend the ignorant amongst your party.
The purposes of war have always mainly been to keep the elites in power and control of everything. If there is no wealth, true equality may be reached.
The poor and middle class are sent to fight and they are not given the same privileges as the rich. Greed is evil in all ways.
God wants us to share our possessions with others. Otherwise, there is no hope in true peace. As long as there is evil, poverty will always be around. There will always be three social classes.
I believe it is ironic how the manistream media with "anchors" like Katie Couric, Charlie Gibson, Keith Oberman, Chris Matthew and other believe THEIR views are so important. If most Americans believe what these anchors believed, then was are the rating so low! If I worked for the news departments of ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, CNBC and others I would be worried for your job. Look at the layoff is the print media & you are next! Your news is OLD, TIRED.
Better ways to get my news then television. Same as talk radio. Only conservative genetrash gets their 'news' the old way and only the conservative genetrash needs to have someone tell them what to believe(like Rush).
It's the primary function of the mass media in the US to mobilize public support for special interests that dominate the government & the private sector.
To eliminate confusion, all of this has nothing to do with liberal or conservative bias. According to the propaganda model, both liberal and conservative wings of the media -- whatever those terms are supposed to mean -- fall within the same framework of assumptions.
Liberals liberals liberals burn the witches joe mccarthy liberals are taking your hard earned tax dollars and giving them to lazy, homeless negroes so they can gets there vote for Barrack Hussein Ubama. Liberals- A Southern Baptist Preacher w/ jowls like a turkey. Buy your son 80 pounds of Chinese plastic to show you love him. Jesus would do it.
Mastadon: holy war is a zero-sum game. If god favours one nation against another, it would mean he hates one half of his creation over the other - does that make sense?
Cool! so now, i can just kill anyone i want, if i ask for God's blessing. So, i think i'll kill my neighbor tonight because i strongly believe he has a gun (a WEAPON of destruction), and i need to protect my family. So by using the Bush doctrine, it makes perfect sense to kill him, then rape and murder his entire family and distant relatives because i FEAR he will attack me in the near future. Man, i just love American logic! It's brilliant!
Keep living in a christian fundamentalist dream world where the US has never done wrong and all its wars are blessed by god. The Bush administration intended to go to war from the very beginning, since when does god approve war have we gone back to the crusading era? They only have to convince rednecks and ignorant inbred superstitious hicks like you with some flag-waving patriot shit. The rest of the world = not convinced even for a second. Does god hate your enemies; you cant both be right?
If you believe that, then there is no hope for this world.
Think for yourself. Stop being a puppet. WAR is a pretext for billionaires to get rich from weaponry sales, nation building, and resource pillage. It has nothing to do with God.
as true as that is the same can be said for anthropogenic climate change. War makes billionaries rivher, so too does global warming, so what should we do about both ?
Atheism has nothing to do with China's facsist, corporatist regime.
There is nothing wrong with religion, but using religion to advance WAR, or ANY policy, in my opinion, is WRONG! Pre-emptive war is NOT Christian. Clinton's sanctions on Iraq is NOT Christian! Torture---in any way, shape or form---is NOT Christian!
It is wise to reject any kind of forced multi-culturalism, as well. Protect your own culture and heritage, and don't let anyone force you into believing anything else.
It has everything to do with it. The PRC was founded by Mao Zedong. He was a Communist and a rabid atheist. And country is atheist. It's secular by law. And their dystopia runs on persecuting the faithful. Or are those Christians and Buddhists abused in China a bunch of fakes?
And don't act like you understand my religion. My faith allows for just wars. The Just War Theory allows for wars when needed. There's nothing in the Bible saying not to fight for your country, quite the opposite.
Just War requires certain conditions to be met in order to engage enemies, and our wars have usually always been in alignment with it. Equal and proportionate force. I'm not going to remind you of Iraq's entire history but I will remind you of the post-Gulf War era. Time and time we've been restrictive in how we carried out war. Our Judeo-Christian principles are the foundation of our civilzation in the West and are what guide our military actions. God commands holy wars, but we lead just wars.
Try reading the Bible and then try to show me the anti-war parts. God doesn't tell us to go out starting wars. But he also doesn't tell us that we're forbidden from it. God himself commanded the Jewish people in their wars and had them destroy their enemies and defend the Holy Land. Now, God doesn't command us today and thus there are no more holy wars, but Christian theology brought us just war. The Bible praises soldiers. Blessed are the peacemakers. And so on. The Bible is more than you think
What I meant was that believing in God or not believing in God has no impact on the country. Forced religion or forced atheism on the public is both bad.
I, myself, don't practice any religion, nor do I think any country should force people to be a religion (Saudia Arabia, Israel) To me, any God that requires worship is a false God. But that's just ME --- I could care less what you believe.
Whether it is forced atheism or forced Islam/Christianity/Judaism, it is still TYRANNY!
Of course there are SOME just war, but only a rare few, like WW2 and Afganistan. The rest of US wars have all been pre-emptive invasions or interventions, waged for imperialism and corporate interests, like Vietnam and Iraq. WW1 was also a bogus war, and the radical leftist Woodrow Wilson, in my opinion, is one of THE worst presidents in history.
The Iraq War was an invasion; it clearly had nothing to do with defending the country. We were not attacked by Iraq, nor were we threatened.
There will always be evil people in the world; we will never be able to destroy every dictator/mass murderer through war. We have to just try to spread a peaceful message. After all, isn't it God who is the judge, NOT man?
Soldiers are not peacemakers; it is a contradiction in itself, yet it is not the point. I believe that we are here to spread love and freedom and peace---not bomb and sanction and invade!
Oh please. Total non-interventionist nonsense. All of our wars have been just. Don't be a pacifist wimp. The Revolutionary War, Indian Wars, Quasi-War, Barbary Wars, War of 1812, Mexican-American War, Civil War, Spanish-American War, and so on. Why is it you nuts never talk about those? Because they were all just. America isn't an imperialist power and you'd know that if you studied our history. We fought empires in every continent to stop imperialism.
WOW! You are starting to lose me here. First off, Jesus was CLEARLY the BIGGEST pacifist EVER, especially if you read what is in the Bible! Demonizing pacifists, as you have already done to me, is a form of facsism, which was used in Nazi Germany.
I agree that the Rev War was just, but the Mexican American War??? WHAT??? We STOLE the Mexicans land!!! What kind of revisionist history are you practicing??? Now, I'm not saying that we give back the land, but everyone agrees that was imperialism
Show me where in the Bible Jesus is a pacifist. I'll give you quote after quote proving otherwise. I know the Bible. Jesus was the Prince of Peace, but was no pacifist.
And you're a fuckign idiot. Mocking pacifism isn't Fascism you moron. If Hitler were alive today he'd WANT you to stand down while he rampaged in your country. Pacifists are worthless and in fact you can blame them for the rise of the Axis Powers and WWII, or was it American and European militarism that provoked Hitler? Pfft.
Also, We stole no land from Mexico. We grabbed land in AFTER Mexico was at war with us. The land was barely populated, and in fact most supported the US. California welcomed us with open arms. Let's not forget that those lands belonged to the Mexican EMPIRE. Mexico was run by a dictator, Santa Ana. And then after we whipped Mexcio in the war, you know what we did? We payed them for the land so they could save face. It wasn't theft. Also, how about them threatening us over Texas? Please.
Jesus let himself be crucified on the cross, a brutal humiliating death, which he could avoided but he didn't he was sacrificing himself. And either way, the Bible is not something that is worth debating over too much, in my opinion. A great book with great morals, but that is it!
Hitler rallied his people through EXTREME militant propaganda inorder to gain support to rampage through Europe. Goebells denounced pacifism and pushed for militant nationalism.
Jesus HAD to die for God's new covenant. You know nothing of Christianity or its teachings so stop acting like you do.
Yes, Hitler was a militarist, and who were the ones ignoring Hitler's invasions of other countries? Militarists in Europe, or the pacifists protesting in the streets of Britain to avoid another war? Pacifists allowed Hitler to get as powerful as he did. All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing
No, the citizens of Germany allowed Hitler to do what he did. They were complicit, though they were also brainwashed. France and England unfairly bankrupted Germany, destroying their country's economy! France and Britain have done evil things to this world, too.
Plus, the Hitler analogy is shallow in comparison to today's global conflicts. We are the only true military power! We have no true enemy countries. Pacifism is the only logical way to deal with the world now, in my opinion.
You know what, you're a pussy. I don't like throwing around curses, but people like you just bring it out of me. You are a total tool. You're an apologist so far for the actions of the German Empire, the Nazi Empire, the North Vietnamese, and the Baathist regime in Iraq. Stop making excuses for evil.
I don't support the Treaty of Versailles, but that was no excuse for the actions of Germany and it had nothing to do with Europeans refusing to stand up to Hitler. They were pacifist cowards.
I'm not a British/French apologist, but I sure as hell won't blame them for the actions of others. Their crime was not standing up to Germany until it was too late.
Pacifism lead to WWII. Pacifism allowed the Cold War to last half a century. Pacifism allowed the US to go attacked since the Iranian Revolution until 9/11 without a damn thing being done. Pacifism only makes more wars because it encourages evil.
Dumbass, what ended the Cold War? Reagan's military spending and invasions and bombings of our enemies, or Carter's pacifism and deals with the Soviets? The Cold War lasted for half a century because we never fought to win it until Reagan. Truman wouldn't fight in Korea to win. Eisenhower softened after election and toned down his approach to brinkmanship. Kennedy failed in the Bay of Pigs and Missile Crisis. Johnson wouldn't fight to win in Vietnam.
Nixon and Ford made deals with the Soviets for Detente. Carter kept it up and completely gave up our position in the world and let the Soviets expand their influence in Africa and Latin America. It was Reagan that took them on economically, militarilly, diplomatically, and politically. A war hawk brought peace, nto a war dove.
And blowback is nonsense. I'll remind you also that many of our CIA officials have stabbed our contry in the back for political reasons time and time again.
Look. We can't keep going back and forth with these petty 500 character comments. So, we should move it to messaging. BUT, . . . apparently, we must have met before because it seems that I am blocked from your channel, which is odd because I don't remember ever talking with you. lol. I don't know what you blocking me says about YOU or me lol If you unblock me, we can debate this more elegantly, rather than this psuedo debate we are holding. Up for it? Or are you a pussy pacifist coward? lol
Also, don't send me a longass message for me to read and respond to. I get those from time to time from opponents and I ignore them. It's a waste of time to have to go line by line through a term paper. Keep it on point.
"You're an apologist so far for the actions of the German Empire, the Nazi Empire, the North Vietnamese, and the Baathist regime in Iraq. Stop making excuses for evil."
--- LOL! Is that a joke? I HATE those types of governments, as they completely contradict my beliefs. YOU are the only one apologizing for imperialism and pre-emptive war. Besides, we have had a long history of propping up and installing dictators, along with funding terrorists. I criticize the US, because this MY country!
Hate them all you want; you're still an appeaser. Lie about what I support all you want, but it won't make you less wrong. Pre-emptive war is not wrong in and of itself. You're a moral relativist and yet black and white in your opposition to defending American interests. Our history of supporting dictators is very small. I've studied it. I'm not a zombie. We have screwed up. Operation PBSUCCESS was wrong, for instance. But you're flat out wrong in your assertions.
And stop reasing conspiracy nonsense. I hate Woodrow Wilson. He was one of the worst leaders in our history, but he did NOT make up reasons for war. The Germans gave us plenty of reasons. Vietnam was not a bogus war, nor is Iraq. You people need to reexamine your thinking. What happened when we stopped helping South Vietnam defend its sovereignty? The Domino Theory was correct. Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia. Do those Killing fields impress you? And read about the peace agreements for the Gulf War.
lol Conspiracy? Is this what you resort to? Woodrow Wilson ran on keeping us out of the war, yet he also started a propaganda campaign against Germany, and his aide to Britain obviously provoked Germany. There was absolutely NO justification to get involved in that horrific, imperialistic war!
Germans were slaughtering American civilians for God's sake. Where the hell do you draw the line? Unrestricted submarine warfare on ships carrying Americans, not to mention conspiracy to start a proxy war against us using Mexico, as well as open oppositiong to us. I'd say going into Europe and crushing Germany was the right thing to do, and just. The Europeans were imperialists, but us getting in that war doesn't make us so.
We provoked Germany by aiding Britain. Why were we aiding Britain in the first place? That government was full of scum-bags!!! The ships that were sunk were carrying supplies to Britain, the country Germany was fighting against. Isn't THAT a proxy war??? Mexico would never have the power to take us over; that's bull-shit! Woodrow Wilson then passed sedition acts to spy on Americans and eliminate protest of the war! He was a scum-bag!
Hey dipstick, the Germans weren't attacking those ships because they had supplies on them, but because they were British. The Germans didn't even know ships like the Lusitania had supplies and couldn't have known; they were cruise ships for God's sake. We weren't waging a proxy war at all. Those weren't soldiers on those ships. Those people on the Lusitania were slaughtered by Germany. Those were innocent people that had no idea about those supplies.
And learn about the Zimmerman telegram. Germany wanted Mexico to go to war with America. In exchange for keeping America out of the war, Germany would let Mexico keep the portions of America taken during the Mexican-American War. Mexico didn't do it because the telegram was intercepted by the British. The telegram was sent in anticipation of renewed submarine warfare. They planned it ahead of time. They also wanted to use Mexico to get Japan on Germany's side. Don't be a fool.
And stop acting like I support Wilson. Wilson was a racist, Klan supporting, socialist thug. I don't like him or what he did. I don't like FDR either but I defend WWII. The same goes for Wilson and WWI.
My memory of Lusitania is foggy, but from what I remember, it was an accident.
I know what the Zimmerman Telegram is. Again, it's a bull-shit reason to go to war. Mexico would have been demolished by the US!!!
You support Wilson because you are a war hawk, obviously. There is no TRUE Christian that could possibly support our criminal foreign policy of the last 50 years.
It wasn't an accident to my knowledge. It was given direct orders to fire on the ship.
And you need to wake up and stop thinking our enemies shouldn't be engaged if they're not as strong as us. Al-Qaeda isn't as strong as us either, yet you don't think they were harmless, right? The very fact that the Germans were even PLANNING a war with us was proof enough of their hostility and reason enough to fight and end the threat. I DO NOT SUPPORT WILSON. How many times do I have to say that?
We have completely screwed up the fight against Al Qaeda by letting the neo-cons take advantage of the situtation. Invading Iraq diverted resources, de-stabilized the region, and weakened our support from other nations.
We should have chased Bin Laden as far as we had to, even if it meant going into Pakistan temporarily. But we should NOT occupy the region!!!
OH God, the neocons. It's always the neocons. Do you even know what a neocon is? A neo conservative was a socialist in the Cold War that joined with the conservatives and right wingers to support a strong foreign policy. That's it. They were Trotskyists-turned defense hawks. That's all there is to it. Jeane Kirkpatrick was a neoconservative. She grew up a socialist and eventually joined Reagan's cabinet and became a Republican. There's no neocon conspiracy. Neocon doesn't mean what you think.
You're not. Quit it for God's sake. I can argue my case; you can't. Our foreign policy has been interventionist since Washington. That's right, the guy you people always say was opposed to foreign entanglements. Grow up.
It absolutely has an impact. Any society that purges people of faith like China is absolutely impacted by atheism. Nearly every totalitarian dictator of the 20th century was an atheist. Hitler, Mussolini, Mao, Lenin, Stalin, Ho Chi Minh, Kim il Sung, Castro, and so on. Do you think their policies are random? Meanwhile Christian societies have been more tolerant than any other. Christian societies are also self-correcting. And Israel is nothing like those bastard Saudis. Israel is free.
Israel is NOT as bad as Saudi Arabia, but Israel is NOT good for Muslims, who they have oppressed now for years. This is fact! Jews are free, not Muslims!
However, I do believe that Christianity DOES in fact have a ositive impact, yet it can be manipulated, too, as well.
What on Earth are you talking about? You're a nut. Stop drinking anti-semite koolaid. Israel has a huge Muslim and Arab minority. They haven't harmed Muslims for no reason, but Muslims have harmed them for no reason other than conquest. Think for God's sake. Israel could have destroyed every Muslim nation around it if it wanted too. Rather it's only defended itself like any nation would. Rockets fired in its cities all the time seems like a reason to me to defend itself.
Oh, please! Stop cheapening the debate! Calling me a nut? Israel has every right to defend itself, and I don't think they are on a campaign to kill all Muslims! That's absurd! But the death rate is like 1 Israeli to 200 Palestinians, or something like that. Israeli uses military force to drive Palestinians out of their homes to establish religious colonies. That is fact!
Perhaps you should stop drinking the zionist propaganda! There are two sides to the conflict; you are being unfair!!!
It's absolutely not fact, in fact it's propaganda used by opponents of Israel. Also, maybe Israel wouldn't be sending its military in if Palestinians weren't electings and supporting terrorists that were killing Israelis. For God's sake, think kid. These are the people the cheered in the streets and burned American flags on 9/11. These people aren't innocent. Don't be a moron. Why is Egypt doing the same as Israel and building fences to keep out Palestinians? Because they're trouble makes.
your religions are flawed!!! Thou shall not kill you fuckin morons....there is not a foot note to that or stipulations. You pick and choose whats right and wrong out the bible then claim god is real. such bullshit!
Why are you so angry 504pro? I used to be angry just like you, then I was helped by God to realized that we don't just live to die 504pro. EVERYTHING is right in the bible when interpreted in the proper context, GOD'S CONTEXT and not your own biased context. Man it's sad that you feel the way you do 504pro but the good news is that one day your mind will change(Rom 14:11). I just pray for your sake that it's on THIS SIDE of eternity!!!
Charlie gives negative expression to Palin's response. At 4:00 Palin states "let us pray that we are on God's side". Charlie seems turned off by the answer. Facial expression, cocking his head sideways, and his shoulder shrug while putting on his glasses, seem to indicate his contempt.
I suggest that it is not our parents that put religion in us...it is the fact that we have a soul that make us different to question our existance. No other being on this planet does that - NONE.
Even the most remote tribe or group of people have a belief in a higher power that is seen in idols or unseen. If you find one without a system then their parents taught them that there is no God and that is their system - so they still have one.
If it's not your parents, then why aren't you a muslim or a Hindu? Millions in India are Hindus. Millions in the middle east are Muslims. If you were born in India, you would be a Hindu. If you were born in the middle east you'd be a Muslim.
There is a good biological explanation for religiosity too, you don't seem to know about it. Do a search for a video on here using the keyword "ramachandran", it's the name of a neurological researcher who discovered the responsible portion of our brain.
About Ramachandran's finding: If an ensouled man chose (of his own free will) to pray or worship, would you expect there would be no unique brain activity at all?
Democrats are responsible for the mortgage crisis! First the "Community Reinvestment Act" with Carter, then continuing with Clinton in 1999, which FORCED banks to give loans to risky people - BASED ON SKIN COLOR!!Bush & McCain repeatedly WARNED of financial disaster regarding Fanny Mae/Freddy Mac and what thus became the '08 financial crisis! Democrats, however kept to their party line, extending loans to people who couldn't afford them, just like you would expect of socialists! PATHETIC SHAME
The time has come for Christians of all denominations to unite. Catholic haters spend so much time in the minutia of proving that Catholic Church is evil. The Catholic Church is not the problem. It is greater than its weak and sinful members, just like Scripture is greater than its imperfect followers. Islam is a bigger problem. So are Charlie and the many other media liars. Obama's a problem. Joe Biden with his pretend Catholic approach to abortion. He's not a Catholic.
She said "a task from God" and "God's plan." That's a lot different from saying God bless and protect our troops as Clinton did. It's not saying that a particular war is "God's plan." Now she's trying to make it seem like she's not a nutty Christian who thinks the Iraq war is a holy war. She really thinks that Muslims are evil and Christians are good. Christ would never have said that. Some fringe Christians do think that, and we don't want these End Time nuts anywhere near the White House!
She said "soldiers are being sent on a task that is from god" listen to it again if you have to. Who is she to know what God wants? By embarking on a holy war we are going against what this country stands for. This country was founded based on the idea that people should be able to choose the religion they practice.
Palin didn't say, "our troops were on a mission from (G)od." What she said was that we should pray, 'that they are doing what is right' and that the war is 'God's plan.' Her interest is in what God wants.
This is ridiculous. He is not condemning her for praying for our troops. She said that our troops were on a mission from god. That sure does sound like a holy war to me. If what she said wasn't so bad she wouldn't have denied it like she did at first("I don't think those were my exact words").
They know damn well they think they are sending us on a holy mission. Bush has said it. She has said it. I've heard it from their pals. In public when the "leftists" are listening they do the wink and nod (we're Christians, kill those Muslims) but they say it to eachother in private. They say it in front of me assuming that I agree.
I believe in God. I hope we're not going too far away from what God wants us to do but I do not believe that we're on a mission from God when we go to war.
Bush has even been told not to use the word "crusade". Ann Coulter, whom I can't stomach, at least has the balls to say that she believes we're fighting on behalf of Heaven when we shoot or torture someone that isn't an American Republican, to whomever is asking her. Not just to select people.
She said it was a "Task from God", which literally means it's a holy war. Maybe she didn't mean that though, but finally the media grows a pair and asks an important question and they're "elite". Maybe they should have been more "elite" when we were lied into a war that's killed 4,000 plus Americans and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, and put us in an economic hole. More Republican games- what a surprise.
What is all this?! It looks as though Sarah is in the principles office being scolded as if it's a bad thing to pray for our troops!! I THANK GOD!! FINALLY a God fearing true American patriot has been raised up- Thank God for Sarah Palin. What a great woman. Go Sarah we are PRAYING for you. HALLELUJAH!!
Thank you for this video...and thank you Govenor Palin for your prayers for our troops..God Bless America..and Gibson should hang his head in shame...
It is disturbing to see Gibson try to trip up Sarah Palin because she dared to pray for the troops. At about the same time, Stephanopolis had to save Obama from himself when he accidentally mentioned his "Muslim" faith. If Palin had slipped up in this interview, can you see Gibson trying to keep her mistake from being noticed. There is no impartial journalism anymore.
If you are talking about the 'separation of church and state' misinformation, you, sir, are the one that needs the education. Really check it out - don't rely on others to do your thinking for you!!
"the seperation of church and state misinformation" i think i understand what you are trying to say...but im not quite sure
secondly im not relying on anything except what TJ said himself about christianity in his letters and writings. And since he authored our constitution, I think if we are going to talk about history, lets not be selective as in the case of this video.
every politician evokes god. since there is no way to verify their faith, its the easiest lie they ever have to tell.
What no one wanted was government messing around with religion (establishing a "state" religion). But it was OK for religion to mess with the government (to help keep it on the straight and narrow).
True. They didn't want a national church like what existed in England. However, people always ignore that in the early days of the American republic, the individual states did have established churches. The states had religion established and nobody, not even the Founders or Framers saw it as violating this so-called "separation of church and state." History is not on the side of the secularists.
Jefferson was neither a non-believer nor a secularist.
But you happen to think the creator of this video needs aducating? Hey dumbass, Thomas Jefferson didn't write the Constitution. James Madison was the father of the Constitution; Jefferson wrote the Declaration of Independence. Jefferson opposed the Constitution and wanted a Bill of Rights which we got eventually. Learn history.
See children, this is why you don't listen to idiots about the faith and religion of our Founding fathers.
It would seem that the author of this video missed the point of the media's response to Governor Palin's Prayer on war. The point is, the other President's that you have quoted never denied there praying. They also never suggested that God favored America and then deny saying so. God's love and mercy that he has for us is so great. Our mind's, hearts and souls cannot begin to imagine that God can love someone that worships HIM differently than ourselves. My faith remains in God.
"When I left Springfield, I asked the people to pray for me; I was not a Christian. When I buried my son-the severest trial of my life-I was not a Christian. But when I went to Gettysburg, and saw the graves of thousands of our soldiers, I then and there consecrated myself to Christ."
GabrielGZNH can't read or think beyond his liberal, atheist talking points. He also is a coward unwilling to reply to posts directly rather than posting separate ones that don't give off post alerts. He's afraid someone will come back and actually challenge him.
Since he can't read, it's likely he copy and pasted his Lincoln quotes and took many out of context. Lincoln challenged dogma, but was no atheist. I challenge dogma too yet remain a Christian. Go respond to my lincoln quotes first kid
I did respond to almost every one of your posts.. But your last comment about me is not a reply to any one of mine, are you then by your own logic a coward?.. I dont belive that abe Lincoln was an atheist, but he also was not a member of any church (would you elect a president today who was not a member of any church).. Even his wife said that Abe never had any faith.. And, If copying Lincoln quotes is such a stupid thing to do, than why did you post so many more than I did??
I was using your own tactics against you. And Lincoln explained why he wasn't a member of a church. I already posted this-
"That I am not a member of any Christian church is true; but I have never denied the truth of the Scriptures; and I have never spoken with intentional disrespect of religion in general, or of any denomination of Christians in particular....I do not think I could myself be brought to support a man for office whom I knew to be an open enemy of, or scoffer at, religion."
The difference bewteen you and I is I post quotes knowing their context while you do not. Not to mention I have more evidence to show Lincoln believed in God, Christ, and the Bible than you have to the contrary.
knowing that politicians have to promote their faith, in order to win elections.. It's it obious that smart people like Abe Lincoln, had to talk about heaven, and faith as if it were a good thing to win votes, but in fact, the considered religious zealots to be stupid, and probably disgusting.
"Mr. Lincoln had no hope, and no faith, in the usual acceptation of those words."
-- Mary Todd Lincoln, to Colonel Ward H Lamon, in his Life of Abraham Lincoln, p. 459, quoted from Franklin Steiner, The Religious Beleifs of Our Presidents, p. 118
It will not do to investigate the subject of religion too closely, as it is apt to lead to Infidelity. Abraham Lincoln, Manford's Magazine, quoted from Franklin Steiner, The Religious Beliefs of Our Presidents, p. 144
The Bible is not my book nor Christianity my profession. Abraham Lincoln, quoted by Joseph Lewis in "Lincoln the Freethinker"
The only person who is a worse liar than a faith healer is his patient. Abraham Lincoln, quoted by Victor J Stenger in Physics and Psychics
Yes!!! The battle between good and evil is real!!! Let us pray to God for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right, also for this country, our leaders, & our national leaders!!! Amen!!!
Nobody expects more from Sarah. But Gingrich has the intellectual capacity to understand that every single clip shown following Sarah's statement about our Iraq operations being "a mission from God" was fundamentally different. Despite Sarah's quote from Lincoln, her statement clearly suggested that God is on our side, not that we need to try to be on His side. The other quotes asked for God's blessing and guidance, expressing humbleness before Him. Not so Sarah's simplistic hubris
BleuPseud 1 year ago
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BleuPseud 1 year ago
We all need to wake up. All this isn't about liberals vs conservatives christains vs other beliefs. I like the patriot movement because it is bringing to light many issues long held by far left thinkers, ie the fed reserve. Sorry to say the media is not liberal, do some research on corporate sponsors, follow the money. Anyway the news on television is full of fluff with absolutely nothing of substance, so please stop crying liberal media and start researching the facts outside corp.
jackchorn 1 year ago
I want to be a JFK democrat, not a latte sipping pansy democrat.
hozhoboe89 1 year ago
In case you had any doubts who the mainstream media supports: In 2008, 88% of contributions from employees at ABC/CBS/NBC went to Democratic candidates. Is that fair and balanced?
lv2surf 1 year ago
One thing is clear in this video.....The democrats of today are a far cry from the party of the 40's-50's-60's
The demoncrats of today have declared God out of America, "we are no longer a Christian Nation"
May God have mercy, and give us a new Adminstration who honors God, as well as the brains to realize you cant tax your way to success, or by killing free enterprise.
Pray a rebel Democrat runs against Obama, a brave Independent or a wise Republican
theophilus46 1 year ago
@theophilus46 AMEN!! Today democrats are nothing but marxist who hijacked the democratic party 40 years ago.. then drugged up draft dodging radicals of the 60's70s went into politics and the education system to destroy the united states. From the inside, 40 years later thier plans have come to fruition. Just look at the white house adminstration they are all damn near all marxist. scumbags are even quoting chairman mao. most democrats unknowingly have become traitors to the constitution
lv2surf 1 year ago
Palin is an IDIOT and you Fundies are NOT CHRISTIAN but Fucking ZIONISTS Jesus Christ would NOT be Seen with Any of You Bigotted Bastards, FUCK the USA nothing but a TERRORIST MURDERING STATE. The USA has the DUMBE$ST people on Earth. No wonder you're so Hated only second to your Bastard child IsraeHELL the Other TERRORIST State. Rot and Burn in Hell you Racists bastards.
suzieq0452 1 year ago
So, Tommy, did Bill Clinton, FDR, or JFK claim that anything they did was a mission from God??
Zakdayak 2 years ago
Charlie never heard of the ACORN scandal.
jmspflw 2 years ago
This video equates asking for God's blessing with saying that Bush's decision to go war/the mission in Iraq is God's will. Did FDR, JFK, or Bill Clinton claim that any of the military operations they decided to undertake were missions from God??
Zakdayak 2 years ago
You are a dumbfuck who needs to actually watch the video. Did Palin "claim that any of the military operations they decided to undertake were missions from God"? (Btw, if you answer anything other than, "No, I was a dumbfuck and need to shut up," then you are a liar.)
TommygunNG 2 years ago
I'm sorry Tommygun, that your attitude and Youtube moniker betray your penis envy. But more to the point: You can actually trying answering the question I've asked. If you're indeed so much smarter than me.
Zakdayak 2 years ago
Between the false statement at the beginning of your bullshit post and omitting Palin's name from your question, you seek to imply the same lie spoken by Chuckie Gibson. That makes you a liar. I will answer your question when you either admit your lie or produce proof you are right.
TommygunNG 2 years ago
I'm not accusing Charlie Gibson of anything. Gibson didn't edit this video. The thrust of it is clearly to compare Palin with responsible non-ego maniacs like Roosevelt, Lincoln, etc...but asking for God's blessing IS NOT THE SAME as claiming that Bush's political decision (in contradiction to available intelligence, international law) is a mission from God. Omitting Palin's name is irrelevant, we all know who we're talking about. Asking for a blessing does not mean the mission is from God.
Zakdayak 2 years ago
Your dumbass insults and your slander of President Bush aside, your statement is correct--they are not the same. And that is the point of the video. None of the figures mentioned--FDR, Clinton, JFK, Lincoln, or Palin--either equated the two or "claiming that [their respective missions in question was] a mission from God." You attempt to imply Palin did make such a claim, which is false. Otherwise, you would have no problem with the video.
TommygunNG 2 years ago
:36 "A task that is from God."
As opposed to a task that was decided by Straussians that didn't like the fact that Hussein was still in power in Iraq.
Zakdayak 2 years ago
And there, this asshole explicitly repeats, by out-of-context quotation, the same lie uttered by Chuckie Gibson. He asserted before that Palin "claimed" the mission was from God, yet we see by listening to the whole sentence (start at 0:25) that his proof-phrase comes from a sentence where she says to "pray" that it is from God--"Pray... that our leaders--our national leaders--are sending them out on a task that is from God".
Thank you for proving yourself a liar, motherfucker!
TommygunNG 2 years ago
I'm not an asshole. I'm concerned that so many people put their trust in someone who believes that God elevated her and that witchcraft is a real force in the world today. Someione who claims to love books and magazines but can't name one that she reads when questioned (certainly THAT question is not out of context). as for your "context" I think we all know what the context is from the right -m because we have been told repeateldy that the US stands for God and Christianity, etc...
Zakdayak 2 years ago
As for the "context" she does say we have to make sure that by praying it is from God. Problem is, these people BELIEVE IT IS. Otherwise, you wouldn't have characterized my remarks about Bush as "slander."
Zakdayak 2 years ago
So, in addition to being a liar, you show yourself to be a religious bigot and an ignorant fool. Thank you again.
TommygunNG 2 years ago
"Bigot?" We have freedom of conscience in this country. Calling me names has nothing to do with the issue. On the other hand, if you believe in Unicorns, I wouldn't exactly be thrilled if you ran for office. And HELLO, Bush told Blair why he wanted to go to war, because God wanted it. So this is not made up. He violated internationalw law/civil rights/4th amendment multiple times because God told him to do it. Just like the Salem Witch trials, if not - explain your term "slander."
Zakdayak 2 years ago
"'Bigot?' We have freedom of conscience in this country." Not if your conscience in any supports traditional America or leads to oppose, say, Islam. Then one is a "bigot." So, whereas that religion cannot be attacked, no religion can be attacked. You attacked Sarah Palin's religion. Therefore, you are a bigot. Or are you demanding a double-standard? If you are, then shut the fuck up now, because the only double-standard I'll give will go against dumbfucks like you.
TommygunNG 2 years ago
Criticizing a religion doesn't make me a bigot, anymore than I would be a bigot (or Bush) for condeming Wahabism. By your definition, conservatives are bigots, when they criticize Islam. Ridiculous.
Zakdayak 2 years ago
According to the politically correct, any criticism of Islam is bigoted, while Christianity (and to a lesser extent, Judaism) can be freely attacked. That is because they like how Islamic terrorists target the West. As Ann Coulter once said, "If it wasn't for terrorism, liberals would hate Islam."
TommygunNG 2 years ago
I'm neither politically correct, nor a fan of Coulter. Both Islam and Israel deserve criticism. I'm also a free speech advocate, which was obvious on my channel before the sucky YT redesign, as I mirrored some vids critical of Islam.
Zakdayak 2 years ago
So, you would dare criticism Islam, which the pResident says was "revealed"? Be careful. That can get your throat cut.
TommygunNG 2 years ago
BTW, you also show yourself to be racist by your shot about "witchcraft." The incident to which you refer was a blessing on Palin by a BLACK AFRICAN minister! If anyone involved in that believes in "witchcraft," it is him, and he must not be criticized. You were "culturally insensitive" in your statement, especially considering the widespread belief in such things there, and had he placed the blessing on a Black--or a White liberal--a comment like yours would be so labeled by the PC police.
TommygunNG 2 years ago
It wouldn't matter to me whether the minister in question was Black, Chinese, or Martian, They attacked a woman who they accused of producing misfortune in a community. This would be like slaughtering all the black cats - they created a scapegoat for their superstition and assaulted an innocewnt person.
Now, if I criticize the Salem Witch Trials, does that make me ant-Anglo? DOES IT, TOMMY??
Zakdayak 2 years ago
How dare you force your Western--i.e., White--values on Africans! Wow. If not for the fact you attacked Sarah Palin for her (non-Muslim) faith, you'd be in violation of so many PC laws.
BTW, if you did attack the Witch Trials, you would indeed be considered anti-Anglo by the PC people, and they would love you for it. They might even overlook your judgmental view of African culture.
TommygunNG 2 years ago
Here you're just being a jackass, because political correctness has nothing to do with it - you cannot criticize it, Tommy, and then HIDE BEHIND IT.
Now, Tommy, the guy was a Christian minister, but honestly it doesn't matter, I would expect an American to condone threatening her (the accused lady) and her life.
Zakdayak 2 years ago
LOL You really don't get it. I'm making a point about the couble-standard. You could NEVER get away with taking shots at Islam the way you lied about Palin (your out-of-context quotation and your "witchcraft" assertion).
You are actually the one hiding behind PC. It's open season on Palin, & the minister supported Palin, so you get a pass on what would otherwise be viewed by them as "hate speech". Before you tell your lies about the Rightwing Christian, you should think about that.
TommygunNG 2 years ago
I MIRRORED ant-Koranic videos. I don't give a damn. So I don't understand why you're injecting the pc crowd into this, it has nothing to do with me. What you're trying to do is to say that I can't criticize Christians as long as some Liberals don't criticize Islam. WELL let me be clear:
ISREAL, ISLAM, AND CHRISTIANITY ALL DESERVE IT. Now, can we get on with the issue at hand, you know the one where a Minister would advocate killing a human being because she brings "bad luck."
Zakdayak 2 years ago
No, you idiot. The "issue at hand" is your lying about Governor Palin. First, you repeat the Gibson lie to slander her. Then you implicate her with "witchcraft" because some African minister concerned with the matter prays for a blessing on her in church.
I don't give a fuck about you criticizing "Jesus freaks," "kikes," or "towelheads." Attack that minister all you want. But drop the lying on here about Palin.
TommygunNG 2 years ago
Don't get snippy, Tommy.
Zakdayak 2 years ago
Now, as for your slander: 1. The war was and is legal: Hussein--the other "Hussein"--violated UNSC resolutions; the U.S. acted to defend what they saw as their interests, which is allowed under the UN charter; "the Constitution does not follow the flag," and so constitutional issues do not apply to what we do to Iraq or Iraqis; the precedent of attacking the Barbary States without a declaration of war. Hence, that accusation is false--a slander. CONT...
TommygunNG 2 years ago
You don't know what you're talking about. The UN charter allows for self-defense, yes. But only in well defined cases. The other country either has to attack, or is preparing an attack. The war with Iraq was PREemptive. Also, I suggest you wiki the "Supremacy clause" cause you clearly don't understand that.
Zakdayak 2 years ago
Hussein violated 17 UN resolutions and the cease-fire from the 1991 Gulf War. By doing so, he voided the cease-fire. The 2003 war was, in that legal sense, the continuation of the 1991 conflict.
What constitutes "self-defense" must always be a decision we ourselves make. To have it otherwise is to give up sovereignty.
TommygunNG 2 years ago
I appreciate your points about the Supremacy Clause. However, if a foreign treaty is seen as overriding our Constitution's grant of authority (or in other contexts, our guarantees of rights), then the Constitution is meaningless.
TommygunNG 2 years ago
A) The Senate has to ratify said treaties to prevent a possible contradiction B) There is no contradiction in this case.
Zakdayak 2 years ago
A. Agreed, but the Senate can screw up.
B. Disagree, but that goes far beyond the scope of the origin of this conversation, namely, that you lied about Governor Palin, and then brought in a red herring of another lie.
Say what you will about the Gulf Wars or the PC double-standard, you still stand guilty of those lies.
TommygunNG 2 years ago
Alright, sticking to Palin's views, try this quote:
"I think God's will has to be done in unifying people and companies to get the gas line built, so pray for that."
Can you see what I'm talking about?
Zakdayak 2 years ago
I watched the whole video, and don't recall her saying anything about that. Sorry, I'm afraid I can't help you on that one.
Have a nice day.
TommygunNG 2 years ago
It's something she said. She has a tendency to confuse what God wants, and what she favors politically.
Zakdayak 2 years ago
And if that is your vaguely-honest opinion of Palin, that is fine.
As for that line, I found the video (huffingtonpost. com/ 2008/09/02/ palins-church-may-have-sh_n_123205. html# postComment ). It is basically in context, though it comes across as an unscripted aside.
You raise and honest and legitimate issue and have every right to disagree and criticize her fo it. That is because IT'S NOT ANOTHER ONE OF YOUR LIES. So go ahead and do so, though this video really isn't the place.
TommygunNG 2 years ago
Well, coming from someone who I believe to be a "conservative" - that's very nice of you to say. Thanks.
Zakdayak 2 years ago
2. Most of the international community believed Hussein--the other "Hussein" had WMDs, even those opposed to the invasion, thus demonstrating the reasonableness of the belief and debunking your claim Bush knew there were none there. Hence, it is a slander.
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So, we have a liar, a religous bigot, a racist, and a slanderer attacking Sarah Palin for something she didn't say. This person has no credibility, and needs to shove their bullshit of their ass..
TommygunNG 2 years ago
If the US DID believe he had WMD, an invasion would have spread the WMD to all corners of the Middle East, and they wouldn't have attacked because he would have USED the biological and Nuclear (Remember Chjeny said on Meet the Press, that he KNEW Hussein had a Nuke) against either Israel or us. Or, under the invasion would have forced his hand and he would have given it to Hamas, etc...But he didn't have any, and in fact I knew he didn't at the time because I listened to Amb. Wilson, etc...
Zakdayak 2 years ago
Gibson is such a douche. I'm glad he's leaving!
Couric is such scum too!
Hell, with the exception of FOX, all the news media is corrupt to the core & owned by George Soros & the Obama machine.
flyboymd82 2 years ago
I would LOVE to send this to ALL the ASSHOLES in the press. For starters charlie gibson. 5 STARS.
computerpurple 2 years ago 2
Good for Sarah Palin.
post105 2 years ago 2
Post, agreed.
GreatOneFan 2 years ago 2
I second that!
HYDRASHOQ 2 years ago
Great video.
Sarah Palin is a GREAT American.
Will share.
NoCensorshipYT 2 years ago 2
The last true, competent, moral leader the GOP had was Barry Goldwater. Since then, the party has been adrift. We got Tricky Dick and Ford, then Reagan who was a great leader but let the religious zealots into the tent. Then we got the Bush era, which brought us new levels of crime and incompetence.
It would be great to follow up Bush with Palin... then we'll be sure to kill off the GOP for good.
Barry is rolling and crying in his grave. I weep for true conservatives.
RGiacobbe 2 years ago
remember that the charlie interview was edited, Look up the whole transcript. formulate an oppinion then.
medic9five 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Oh, PLEASE! Palin is CLEARLY nuts and DOES believe that we're fighting a holy war. Gibson was not out of line AT ALL. Too bad this little mix-up of a YouTube video doesn't show all of what Palin actually said. She's nuts. And anybody who defends her insane will be deemed nuts, too. So keep it up, GOP. Fight the "media elites" and defend the ignorant amongst your party.
1Poorgradstudent 2 years ago
Propoganda at its finest
JakTheKnife7 2 years ago
The purposes of war have always mainly been to keep the elites in power and control of everything. If there is no wealth, true equality may be reached.
The poor and middle class are sent to fight and they are not given the same privileges as the rich. Greed is evil in all ways.
God wants us to share our possessions with others. Otherwise, there is no hope in true peace. As long as there is evil, poverty will always be around. There will always be three social classes.
MalyGolomb0834 2 years ago
I believe it is ironic how the manistream media with "anchors" like Katie Couric, Charlie Gibson, Keith Oberman, Chris Matthew and other believe THEIR views are so important. If most Americans believe what these anchors believed, then was are the rating so low! If I worked for the news departments of ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, CNBC and others I would be worried for your job. Look at the layoff is the print media & you are next! Your news is OLD, TIRED.
schs1977 3 years ago
Better ways to get my news then television. Same as talk radio. Only conservative genetrash gets their 'news' the old way and only the conservative genetrash needs to have someone tell them what to believe(like Rush).
mastadon1976 2 years ago
It's the primary function of the mass media in the US to mobilize public support for special interests that dominate the government & the private sector.
To eliminate confusion, all of this has nothing to do with liberal or conservative bias. According to the propaganda model, both liberal and conservative wings of the media -- whatever those terms are supposed to mean -- fall within the same framework of assumptions.
Bacchant33rd 3 years ago
Liberals liberals liberals burn the witches joe mccarthy liberals are taking your hard earned tax dollars and giving them to lazy, homeless negroes so they can gets there vote for Barrack Hussein Ubama. Liberals- A Southern Baptist Preacher w/ jowls like a turkey. Buy your son 80 pounds of Chinese plastic to show you love him. Jesus would do it.
shumich 3 years ago
Inane and conflationary
beorik 3 years ago
Mastadon: holy war is a zero-sum game. If god favours one nation against another, it would mean he hates one half of his creation over the other - does that make sense?
angrysmurf3 3 years ago
Since I don't believe in a Christian or Jewish or Muslim God, this is irrelevant.
mastadon1976 2 years ago
Cool! so now, i can just kill anyone i want, if i ask for God's blessing. So, i think i'll kill my neighbor tonight because i strongly believe he has a gun (a WEAPON of destruction), and i need to protect my family. So by using the Bush doctrine, it makes perfect sense to kill him, then rape and murder his entire family and distant relatives because i FEAR he will attack me in the near future. Man, i just love American logic! It's brilliant!
TorontoBoi 3 years ago
Keep living in a christian fundamentalist dream world where the US has never done wrong and all its wars are blessed by god. The Bush administration intended to go to war from the very beginning, since when does god approve war have we gone back to the crusading era? They only have to convince rednecks and ignorant inbred superstitious hicks like you with some flag-waving patriot shit. The rest of the world = not convinced even for a second. Does god hate your enemies; you cant both be right?
angrysmurf3 3 years ago
God hasn't given vocal support to any recent war, but he did support Israel in her early wars.
LeGioNoFZioN 3 years ago
Angrysmurf3: I couldn't have said it any better. Thank you for that comment.
blaziermissy 3 years ago
It's "GOD's" PLAN for WAR in IRAQ?
If you believe that, then there is no hope for this world.
Think for yourself. Stop being a puppet. WAR is a pretext for billionaires to get rich from weaponry sales, nation building, and resource pillage. It has nothing to do with God.
blaziermissy 3 years ago
as true as that is the same can be said for anthropogenic climate change. War makes billionaries rivher, so too does global warming, so what should we do about both ?
LeGioNoFZioN 3 years ago
loeny? check me out!
heya =) sR
oerwoud12 3 years ago
I am no American and it is really sick for America to blur the line between politics and religion. God will prove you people wrong.
chankahon 3 years ago
Yeah, China's atheism has really worked for the better.
TheCobaltAgent 3 years ago
lol
Atheism has nothing to do with China's facsist, corporatist regime.
There is nothing wrong with religion, but using religion to advance WAR, or ANY policy, in my opinion, is WRONG! Pre-emptive war is NOT Christian. Clinton's sanctions on Iraq is NOT Christian! Torture---in any way, shape or form---is NOT Christian!
It is wise to reject any kind of forced multi-culturalism, as well. Protect your own culture and heritage, and don't let anyone force you into believing anything else.
larma7 3 years ago
It has everything to do with it. The PRC was founded by Mao Zedong. He was a Communist and a rabid atheist. And country is atheist. It's secular by law. And their dystopia runs on persecuting the faithful. Or are those Christians and Buddhists abused in China a bunch of fakes?
And don't act like you understand my religion. My faith allows for just wars. The Just War Theory allows for wars when needed. There's nothing in the Bible saying not to fight for your country, quite the opposite.
TheCobaltAgent 3 years ago
Just War requires certain conditions to be met in order to engage enemies, and our wars have usually always been in alignment with it. Equal and proportionate force. I'm not going to remind you of Iraq's entire history but I will remind you of the post-Gulf War era. Time and time we've been restrictive in how we carried out war. Our Judeo-Christian principles are the foundation of our civilzation in the West and are what guide our military actions. God commands holy wars, but we lead just wars.
TheCobaltAgent 3 years ago
Try reading the Bible and then try to show me the anti-war parts. God doesn't tell us to go out starting wars. But he also doesn't tell us that we're forbidden from it. God himself commanded the Jewish people in their wars and had them destroy their enemies and defend the Holy Land. Now, God doesn't command us today and thus there are no more holy wars, but Christian theology brought us just war. The Bible praises soldiers. Blessed are the peacemakers. And so on. The Bible is more than you think
TheCobaltAgent 3 years ago
What I meant was that believing in God or not believing in God has no impact on the country. Forced religion or forced atheism on the public is both bad.
I, myself, don't practice any religion, nor do I think any country should force people to be a religion (Saudia Arabia, Israel) To me, any God that requires worship is a false God. But that's just ME --- I could care less what you believe.
Whether it is forced atheism or forced Islam/Christianity/Judaism, it is still TYRANNY!
larma7 3 years ago
Of course there are SOME just war, but only a rare few, like WW2 and Afganistan. The rest of US wars have all been pre-emptive invasions or interventions, waged for imperialism and corporate interests, like Vietnam and Iraq. WW1 was also a bogus war, and the radical leftist Woodrow Wilson, in my opinion, is one of THE worst presidents in history.
The Iraq War was an invasion; it clearly had nothing to do with defending the country. We were not attacked by Iraq, nor were we threatened.
larma7 3 years ago
There will always be evil people in the world; we will never be able to destroy every dictator/mass murderer through war. We have to just try to spread a peaceful message. After all, isn't it God who is the judge, NOT man?
Soldiers are not peacemakers; it is a contradiction in itself, yet it is not the point. I believe that we are here to spread love and freedom and peace---not bomb and sanction and invade!
larma7 3 years ago
Oh please. Total non-interventionist nonsense. All of our wars have been just. Don't be a pacifist wimp. The Revolutionary War, Indian Wars, Quasi-War, Barbary Wars, War of 1812, Mexican-American War, Civil War, Spanish-American War, and so on. Why is it you nuts never talk about those? Because they were all just. America isn't an imperialist power and you'd know that if you studied our history. We fought empires in every continent to stop imperialism.
TheCobaltAgent 3 years ago
WOW! You are starting to lose me here. First off, Jesus was CLEARLY the BIGGEST pacifist EVER, especially if you read what is in the Bible! Demonizing pacifists, as you have already done to me, is a form of facsism, which was used in Nazi Germany.
I agree that the Rev War was just, but the Mexican American War??? WHAT??? We STOLE the Mexicans land!!! What kind of revisionist history are you practicing??? Now, I'm not saying that we give back the land, but everyone agrees that was imperialism
larma7 3 years ago
Show me where in the Bible Jesus is a pacifist. I'll give you quote after quote proving otherwise. I know the Bible. Jesus was the Prince of Peace, but was no pacifist.
And you're a fuckign idiot. Mocking pacifism isn't Fascism you moron. If Hitler were alive today he'd WANT you to stand down while he rampaged in your country. Pacifists are worthless and in fact you can blame them for the rise of the Axis Powers and WWII, or was it American and European militarism that provoked Hitler? Pfft.
TheCobaltAgent 3 years ago
Also, We stole no land from Mexico. We grabbed land in AFTER Mexico was at war with us. The land was barely populated, and in fact most supported the US. California welcomed us with open arms. Let's not forget that those lands belonged to the Mexican EMPIRE. Mexico was run by a dictator, Santa Ana. And then after we whipped Mexcio in the war, you know what we did? We payed them for the land so they could save face. It wasn't theft. Also, how about them threatening us over Texas? Please.
TheCobaltAgent 3 years ago
Jesus let himself be crucified on the cross, a brutal humiliating death, which he could avoided but he didn't he was sacrificing himself. And either way, the Bible is not something that is worth debating over too much, in my opinion. A great book with great morals, but that is it!
Hitler rallied his people through EXTREME militant propaganda inorder to gain support to rampage through Europe. Goebells denounced pacifism and pushed for militant nationalism.
larma7 3 years ago
Jesus HAD to die for God's new covenant. You know nothing of Christianity or its teachings so stop acting like you do.
Yes, Hitler was a militarist, and who were the ones ignoring Hitler's invasions of other countries? Militarists in Europe, or the pacifists protesting in the streets of Britain to avoid another war? Pacifists allowed Hitler to get as powerful as he did. All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing
TheCobaltAgent 3 years ago
No, the citizens of Germany allowed Hitler to do what he did. They were complicit, though they were also brainwashed. France and England unfairly bankrupted Germany, destroying their country's economy! France and Britain have done evil things to this world, too.
Plus, the Hitler analogy is shallow in comparison to today's global conflicts. We are the only true military power! We have no true enemy countries. Pacifism is the only logical way to deal with the world now, in my opinion.
larma7 3 years ago
You know what, you're a pussy. I don't like throwing around curses, but people like you just bring it out of me. You are a total tool. You're an apologist so far for the actions of the German Empire, the Nazi Empire, the North Vietnamese, and the Baathist regime in Iraq. Stop making excuses for evil.
I don't support the Treaty of Versailles, but that was no excuse for the actions of Germany and it had nothing to do with Europeans refusing to stand up to Hitler. They were pacifist cowards.
TheCobaltAgent 3 years ago
I'm not a British/French apologist, but I sure as hell won't blame them for the actions of others. Their crime was not standing up to Germany until it was too late.
Pacifism lead to WWII. Pacifism allowed the Cold War to last half a century. Pacifism allowed the US to go attacked since the Iranian Revolution until 9/11 without a damn thing being done. Pacifism only makes more wars because it encourages evil.
TheCobaltAgent 3 years ago
"Pacifism allowed the Cold War to last half a century."
--- lol What pacifism? You call Vietnam pacifism?
The Iranian revolution didn't have to happen if we didn't overthrow the Western secular democracy of Iran in 1954.
"Pacifism only makes more wars because it encourages evil."
--- The CIA disagrees with. Ask Michael Shreuer, who is technically not a pacifist. Intervention has helped brew hatred for us around the world.
larma7 3 years ago
Dumbass, what ended the Cold War? Reagan's military spending and invasions and bombings of our enemies, or Carter's pacifism and deals with the Soviets? The Cold War lasted for half a century because we never fought to win it until Reagan. Truman wouldn't fight in Korea to win. Eisenhower softened after election and toned down his approach to brinkmanship. Kennedy failed in the Bay of Pigs and Missile Crisis. Johnson wouldn't fight to win in Vietnam.
TheCobaltAgent 3 years ago
Nixon and Ford made deals with the Soviets for Detente. Carter kept it up and completely gave up our position in the world and let the Soviets expand their influence in Africa and Latin America. It was Reagan that took them on economically, militarilly, diplomatically, and politically. A war hawk brought peace, nto a war dove.
And blowback is nonsense. I'll remind you also that many of our CIA officials have stabbed our contry in the back for political reasons time and time again.
TheCobaltAgent 3 years ago
Look. We can't keep going back and forth with these petty 500 character comments. So, we should move it to messaging. BUT, . . . apparently, we must have met before because it seems that I am blocked from your channel, which is odd because I don't remember ever talking with you. lol. I don't know what you blocking me says about YOU or me lol If you unblock me, we can debate this more elegantly, rather than this psuedo debate we are holding. Up for it? Or are you a pussy pacifist coward? lol
larma7 3 years ago
I don't remember banning you. Maybe you left a disgusting or anti-american comment on one of my videos.
TheCobaltAgent 3 years ago
I doubt it was anything more anit-American than what you have ever said.
I'd like to continue this at a higher level, but not here.
larma7 3 years ago
I haven't said anything anti-american since I stopped being a liberal Democrat.
Go for it.
TheCobaltAgent 3 years ago
What, you've never heard that dissent is the highest form of patriotism?
mastadon1976 3 years ago
I have heard that. I've also heard that there's a difference between dissent and sedition.
TheCobaltAgent 3 years ago
Lol. I'm sure in your world, sedition is far more common.
mastadon1976 3 years ago
No. It's just louder.
TheCobaltAgent 3 years ago
Also, don't send me a longass message for me to read and respond to. I get those from time to time from opponents and I ignore them. It's a waste of time to have to go line by line through a term paper. Keep it on point.
TheCobaltAgent 3 years ago
"You're an apologist so far for the actions of the German Empire, the Nazi Empire, the North Vietnamese, and the Baathist regime in Iraq. Stop making excuses for evil."
--- LOL! Is that a joke? I HATE those types of governments, as they completely contradict my beliefs. YOU are the only one apologizing for imperialism and pre-emptive war. Besides, we have had a long history of propping up and installing dictators, along with funding terrorists. I criticize the US, because this MY country!
larma7 3 years ago
Hate them all you want; you're still an appeaser. Lie about what I support all you want, but it won't make you less wrong. Pre-emptive war is not wrong in and of itself. You're a moral relativist and yet black and white in your opposition to defending American interests. Our history of supporting dictators is very small. I've studied it. I'm not a zombie. We have screwed up. Operation PBSUCCESS was wrong, for instance. But you're flat out wrong in your assertions.
TheCobaltAgent 3 years ago
And stop reasing conspiracy nonsense. I hate Woodrow Wilson. He was one of the worst leaders in our history, but he did NOT make up reasons for war. The Germans gave us plenty of reasons. Vietnam was not a bogus war, nor is Iraq. You people need to reexamine your thinking. What happened when we stopped helping South Vietnam defend its sovereignty? The Domino Theory was correct. Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia. Do those Killing fields impress you? And read about the peace agreements for the Gulf War.
TheCobaltAgent 3 years ago
lol Conspiracy? Is this what you resort to? Woodrow Wilson ran on keeping us out of the war, yet he also started a propaganda campaign against Germany, and his aide to Britain obviously provoked Germany. There was absolutely NO justification to get involved in that horrific, imperialistic war!
larma7 3 years ago
Germans were slaughtering American civilians for God's sake. Where the hell do you draw the line? Unrestricted submarine warfare on ships carrying Americans, not to mention conspiracy to start a proxy war against us using Mexico, as well as open oppositiong to us. I'd say going into Europe and crushing Germany was the right thing to do, and just. The Europeans were imperialists, but us getting in that war doesn't make us so.
TheCobaltAgent 3 years ago
We provoked Germany by aiding Britain. Why were we aiding Britain in the first place? That government was full of scum-bags!!! The ships that were sunk were carrying supplies to Britain, the country Germany was fighting against. Isn't THAT a proxy war??? Mexico would never have the power to take us over; that's bull-shit! Woodrow Wilson then passed sedition acts to spy on Americans and eliminate protest of the war! He was a scum-bag!
larma7 3 years ago
Hey dipstick, the Germans weren't attacking those ships because they had supplies on them, but because they were British. The Germans didn't even know ships like the Lusitania had supplies and couldn't have known; they were cruise ships for God's sake. We weren't waging a proxy war at all. Those weren't soldiers on those ships. Those people on the Lusitania were slaughtered by Germany. Those were innocent people that had no idea about those supplies.
TheCobaltAgent 3 years ago
And learn about the Zimmerman telegram. Germany wanted Mexico to go to war with America. In exchange for keeping America out of the war, Germany would let Mexico keep the portions of America taken during the Mexican-American War. Mexico didn't do it because the telegram was intercepted by the British. The telegram was sent in anticipation of renewed submarine warfare. They planned it ahead of time. They also wanted to use Mexico to get Japan on Germany's side. Don't be a fool.
TheCobaltAgent 3 years ago
And stop acting like I support Wilson. Wilson was a racist, Klan supporting, socialist thug. I don't like him or what he did. I don't like FDR either but I defend WWII. The same goes for Wilson and WWI.
TheCobaltAgent 3 years ago
My memory of Lusitania is foggy, but from what I remember, it was an accident.
I know what the Zimmerman Telegram is. Again, it's a bull-shit reason to go to war. Mexico would have been demolished by the US!!!
You support Wilson because you are a war hawk, obviously. There is no TRUE Christian that could possibly support our criminal foreign policy of the last 50 years.
larma7 3 years ago
It wasn't an accident to my knowledge. It was given direct orders to fire on the ship.
And you need to wake up and stop thinking our enemies shouldn't be engaged if they're not as strong as us. Al-Qaeda isn't as strong as us either, yet you don't think they were harmless, right? The very fact that the Germans were even PLANNING a war with us was proof enough of their hostility and reason enough to fight and end the threat. I DO NOT SUPPORT WILSON. How many times do I have to say that?
TheCobaltAgent 3 years ago
I get it. You don't support Wilson.
We have completely screwed up the fight against Al Qaeda by letting the neo-cons take advantage of the situtation. Invading Iraq diverted resources, de-stabilized the region, and weakened our support from other nations.
We should have chased Bin Laden as far as we had to, even if it meant going into Pakistan temporarily. But we should NOT occupy the region!!!
larma7 3 years ago
OH God, the neocons. It's always the neocons. Do you even know what a neocon is? A neo conservative was a socialist in the Cold War that joined with the conservatives and right wingers to support a strong foreign policy. That's it. They were Trotskyists-turned defense hawks. That's all there is to it. Jeane Kirkpatrick was a neoconservative. She grew up a socialist and eventually joined Reagan's cabinet and became a Republican. There's no neocon conspiracy. Neocon doesn't mean what you think.
TheCobaltAgent 3 years ago
Watch Zeitgeist Addendum in its entirety. Intellectual infancy is no excuse.
blaziermissy 3 years ago
You're not. Quit it for God's sake. I can argue my case; you can't. Our foreign policy has been interventionist since Washington. That's right, the guy you people always say was opposed to foreign entanglements. Grow up.
TheCobaltAgent 3 years ago
It absolutely has an impact. Any society that purges people of faith like China is absolutely impacted by atheism. Nearly every totalitarian dictator of the 20th century was an atheist. Hitler, Mussolini, Mao, Lenin, Stalin, Ho Chi Minh, Kim il Sung, Castro, and so on. Do you think their policies are random? Meanwhile Christian societies have been more tolerant than any other. Christian societies are also self-correcting. And Israel is nothing like those bastard Saudis. Israel is free.
TheCobaltAgent 3 years ago
Israel is NOT as bad as Saudi Arabia, but Israel is NOT good for Muslims, who they have oppressed now for years. This is fact! Jews are free, not Muslims!
However, I do believe that Christianity DOES in fact have a ositive impact, yet it can be manipulated, too, as well.
larma7 3 years ago
What on Earth are you talking about? You're a nut. Stop drinking anti-semite koolaid. Israel has a huge Muslim and Arab minority. They haven't harmed Muslims for no reason, but Muslims have harmed them for no reason other than conquest. Think for God's sake. Israel could have destroyed every Muslim nation around it if it wanted too. Rather it's only defended itself like any nation would. Rockets fired in its cities all the time seems like a reason to me to defend itself.
TheCobaltAgent 3 years ago
Oh, please! Stop cheapening the debate! Calling me a nut? Israel has every right to defend itself, and I don't think they are on a campaign to kill all Muslims! That's absurd! But the death rate is like 1 Israeli to 200 Palestinians, or something like that. Israeli uses military force to drive Palestinians out of their homes to establish religious colonies. That is fact!
Perhaps you should stop drinking the zionist propaganda! There are two sides to the conflict; you are being unfair!!!
larma7 3 years ago
It's absolutely not fact, in fact it's propaganda used by opponents of Israel. Also, maybe Israel wouldn't be sending its military in if Palestinians weren't electings and supporting terrorists that were killing Israelis. For God's sake, think kid. These are the people the cheered in the streets and burned American flags on 9/11. These people aren't innocent. Don't be a moron. Why is Egypt doing the same as Israel and building fences to keep out Palestinians? Because they're trouble makes.
TheCobaltAgent 3 years ago
your religions are flawed!!! Thou shall not kill you fuckin morons....there is not a foot note to that or stipulations. You pick and choose whats right and wrong out the bible then claim god is real. such bullshit!
504pro 3 years ago
Why are you so angry 504pro? I used to be angry just like you, then I was helped by God to realized that we don't just live to die 504pro. EVERYTHING is right in the bible when interpreted in the proper context, GOD'S CONTEXT and not your own biased context. Man it's sad that you feel the way you do 504pro but the good news is that one day your mind will change(Rom 14:11). I just pray for your sake that it's on THIS SIDE of eternity!!!
norasmith1 3 years ago
What is the point of this religious drivel? The fantastical belief in a god does not have anything to do with reality.
If anything, this video proves we must move away from antiquated belief systems and proceed into a new age of reason.
Your religious point is a circular one that goes nowhere. Religion is failure, faith is a virus, and people are waking up to this fact.
zecnobot 3 years ago
ne fun men?
dencionew 3 years ago
Charlie gives negative expression to Palin's response. At 4:00 Palin states "let us pray that we are on God's side". Charlie seems turned off by the answer. Facial expression, cocking his head sideways, and his shoulder shrug while putting on his glasses, seem to indicate his contempt.
bretsteel1 3 years ago 2
I suggest that it is not our parents that put religion in us...it is the fact that we have a soul that make us different to question our existance. No other being on this planet does that - NONE.
Even the most remote tribe or group of people have a belief in a higher power that is seen in idols or unseen. If you find one without a system then their parents taught them that there is no God and that is their system - so they still have one.
God Bless You!
bmize1 3 years ago 2
If it's not your parents, then why aren't you a muslim or a Hindu? Millions in India are Hindus. Millions in the middle east are Muslims. If you were born in India, you would be a Hindu. If you were born in the middle east you'd be a Muslim.
There is a good biological explanation for religiosity too, you don't seem to know about it. Do a search for a video on here using the keyword "ramachandran", it's the name of a neurological researcher who discovered the responsible portion of our brain.
Zamboro 3 years ago 2
About Ramachandran's finding: If an ensouled man chose (of his own free will) to pray or worship, would you expect there would be no unique brain activity at all?
marvy1118 3 years ago
Democrats are responsible for the mortgage crisis! First the "Community Reinvestment Act" with Carter, then continuing with Clinton in 1999, which FORCED banks to give loans to risky people - BASED ON SKIN COLOR!!Bush & McCain repeatedly WARNED of financial disaster regarding Fanny Mae/Freddy Mac and what thus became the '08 financial crisis! Democrats, however kept to their party line, extending loans to people who couldn't afford them, just like you would expect of socialists! PATHETIC SHAME
NObama4us 3 years ago 2
where do you get your news?
mrnatron 3 years ago
God bless America... MEANS something!
PatriotMcCain 3 years ago 2
The time has come for Christians of all denominations to unite. Catholic haters spend so much time in the minutia of proving that Catholic Church is evil. The Catholic Church is not the problem. It is greater than its weak and sinful members, just like Scripture is greater than its imperfect followers. Islam is a bigger problem. So are Charlie and the many other media liars. Obama's a problem. Joe Biden with his pretend Catholic approach to abortion. He's not a Catholic.
Nspiel58 3 years ago
Yeah. God wanted a million Irakis killed and injured. Fucking nitwit.
AulicExclusiva 3 years ago
She said "a task from God" and "God's plan." That's a lot different from saying God bless and protect our troops as Clinton did. It's not saying that a particular war is "God's plan." Now she's trying to make it seem like she's not a nutty Christian who thinks the Iraq war is a holy war. She really thinks that Muslims are evil and Christians are good. Christ would never have said that. Some fringe Christians do think that, and we don't want these End Time nuts anywhere near the White House!
writemrbond 3 years ago
She said "soldiers are being sent on a task that is from god" listen to it again if you have to. Who is she to know what God wants? By embarking on a holy war we are going against what this country stands for. This country was founded based on the idea that people should be able to choose the religion they practice.
mrk00k 3 years ago
Palin didn't say, "our troops were on a mission from (G)od." What she said was that we should pray, 'that they are doing what is right' and that the war is 'God's plan.' Her interest is in what God wants.
regnumchristi 3 years ago
This is ridiculous. He is not condemning her for praying for our troops. She said that our troops were on a mission from god. That sure does sound like a holy war to me. If what she said wasn't so bad she wouldn't have denied it like she did at first("I don't think those were my exact words").
mrk00k 3 years ago
They know damn well they think they are sending us on a holy mission. Bush has said it. She has said it. I've heard it from their pals. In public when the "leftists" are listening they do the wink and nod (we're Christians, kill those Muslims) but they say it to eachother in private. They say it in front of me assuming that I agree.
I believe in God. I hope we're not going too far away from what God wants us to do but I do not believe that we're on a mission from God when we go to war.
foley15136 3 years ago
Bush has even been told not to use the word "crusade". Ann Coulter, whom I can't stomach, at least has the balls to say that she believes we're fighting on behalf of Heaven when we shoot or torture someone that isn't an American Republican, to whomever is asking her. Not just to select people.
foley15136 3 years ago
She said it was a "Task from God", which literally means it's a holy war. Maybe she didn't mean that though, but finally the media grows a pair and asks an important question and they're "elite". Maybe they should have been more "elite" when we were lied into a war that's killed 4,000 plus Americans and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, and put us in an economic hole. More Republican games- what a surprise.
TimJanezic 3 years ago
What is all this?! It looks as though Sarah is in the principles office being scolded as if it's a bad thing to pray for our troops!! I THANK GOD!! FINALLY a God fearing true American patriot has been raised up- Thank God for Sarah Palin. What a great woman. Go Sarah we are PRAYING for you. HALLELUJAH!!
RhythmsOurBiz 3 years ago
Thank you for this video...and thank you Govenor Palin for your prayers for our troops..God Bless America..and Gibson should hang his head in shame...
GodSaveOurNation 3 years ago
It is disturbing to see Gibson try to trip up Sarah Palin because she dared to pray for the troops. At about the same time, Stephanopolis had to save Obama from himself when he accidentally mentioned his "Muslim" faith. If Palin had slipped up in this interview, can you see Gibson trying to keep her mistake from being noticed. There is no impartial journalism anymore.
dh2profit 3 years ago 2
Hannity was right when he said 2008 is the year journalism died...thanks for your post I couldn't find the words as you did...and I agree...
GodSaveOurNation 3 years ago
watch?v=kNGRAoNB6rw&feature=related
OldSchoolMusic 3 years ago
this video dosent reinforce anything except the gullability of Americans and the fact that invoking god is something that all politicians do.
there is no way to verify their beliefs, and in that respect it could be the easiest lie any politician has ever had to tell.
mcalien24 3 years ago
i think whoever made this video needs an education on Thomas Jefferson, the author of our constitution.
mcalien24 3 years ago
If you are talking about the 'separation of church and state' misinformation, you, sir, are the one that needs the education. Really check it out - don't rely on others to do your thinking for you!!
flcrist 3 years ago
"the seperation of church and state misinformation" i think i understand what you are trying to say...but im not quite sure
secondly im not relying on anything except what TJ said himself about christianity in his letters and writings. And since he authored our constitution, I think if we are going to talk about history, lets not be selective as in the case of this video.
every politician evokes god. since there is no way to verify their faith, its the easiest lie they ever have to tell.
mcalien24 3 years ago
What no one wanted was government messing around with religion (establishing a "state" religion). But it was OK for religion to mess with the government (to help keep it on the straight and narrow).
flcrist 3 years ago
True. They didn't want a national church like what existed in England. However, people always ignore that in the early days of the American republic, the individual states did have established churches. The states had religion established and nobody, not even the Founders or Framers saw it as violating this so-called "separation of church and state." History is not on the side of the secularists.
TheCobaltAgent 3 years ago
Jefferson was neither a non-believer nor a secularist.
But you happen to think the creator of this video needs aducating? Hey dumbass, Thomas Jefferson didn't write the Constitution. James Madison was the father of the Constitution; Jefferson wrote the Declaration of Independence. Jefferson opposed the Constitution and wanted a Bill of Rights which we got eventually. Learn history.
See children, this is why you don't listen to idiots about the faith and religion of our Founding fathers.
TheCobaltAgent 3 years ago
Demand an independent audit of all voting machines before November.
countess1900 3 years ago
Gibson's question is a political one and not a religious one. This video misses the point entirely.
DougTube69 3 years ago
It is sad that God is such a bad word these days. The media could use some humility, not to mention an education.
thesinzer 3 years ago
Everybody is trying to say something intelligent, I'm, gonna say something dumb....... cat food
thefabulousmisswendy 3 years ago
It would seem that the author of this video missed the point of the media's response to Governor Palin's Prayer on war. The point is, the other President's that you have quoted never denied there praying. They also never suggested that God favored America and then deny saying so. God's love and mercy that he has for us is so great. Our mind's, hearts and souls cannot begin to imagine that God can love someone that worships HIM differently than ourselves. My faith remains in God.
89terityme 3 years ago
"When I left Springfield, I asked the people to pray for me; I was not a Christian. When I buried my son-the severest trial of my life-I was not a Christian. But when I went to Gettysburg, and saw the graves of thousands of our soldiers, I then and there consecrated myself to Christ."
TheCobaltAgent 3 years ago
GabrielGZNH can't read or think beyond his liberal, atheist talking points. He also is a coward unwilling to reply to posts directly rather than posting separate ones that don't give off post alerts. He's afraid someone will come back and actually challenge him.
Since he can't read, it's likely he copy and pasted his Lincoln quotes and took many out of context. Lincoln challenged dogma, but was no atheist. I challenge dogma too yet remain a Christian. Go respond to my lincoln quotes first kid
TheCobaltAgent 3 years ago
I did respond to almost every one of your posts.. But your last comment about me is not a reply to any one of mine, are you then by your own logic a coward?.. I dont belive that abe Lincoln was an atheist, but he also was not a member of any church (would you elect a president today who was not a member of any church).. Even his wife said that Abe never had any faith.. And, If copying Lincoln quotes is such a stupid thing to do, than why did you post so many more than I did??
GabrielGZNH 3 years ago
I was using your own tactics against you. And Lincoln explained why he wasn't a member of a church. I already posted this-
"That I am not a member of any Christian church is true; but I have never denied the truth of the Scriptures; and I have never spoken with intentional disrespect of religion in general, or of any denomination of Christians in particular....I do not think I could myself be brought to support a man for office whom I knew to be an open enemy of, or scoffer at, religion."
TheCobaltAgent 3 years ago
The difference bewteen you and I is I post quotes knowing their context while you do not. Not to mention I have more evidence to show Lincoln believed in God, Christ, and the Bible than you have to the contrary.
TheCobaltAgent 3 years ago
knowing that politicians have to promote their faith, in order to win elections.. It's it obious that smart people like Abe Lincoln, had to talk about heaven, and faith as if it were a good thing to win votes, but in fact, the considered religious zealots to be stupid, and probably disgusting.
GabrielGZNH 3 years ago
"Mr. Lincoln had no hope, and no faith, in the usual acceptation of those words."
-- Mary Todd Lincoln, to Colonel Ward H Lamon, in his Life of Abraham Lincoln, p. 459, quoted from Franklin Steiner, The Religious Beleifs of Our Presidents, p. 118
GabrielGZNH 3 years ago
It will not do to investigate the subject of religion too closely, as it is apt to lead to Infidelity. Abraham Lincoln, Manford's Magazine, quoted from Franklin Steiner, The Religious Beliefs of Our Presidents, p. 144
The Bible is not my book nor Christianity my profession. Abraham Lincoln, quoted by Joseph Lewis in "Lincoln the Freethinker"
The only person who is a worse liar than a faith healer is his patient. Abraham Lincoln, quoted by Victor J Stenger in Physics and Psychics
GabrielGZNH 3 years ago
Thank you for this powerful video!!!
Yes!!! The battle between good and evil is real!!! Let us pray to God for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right, also for this country, our leaders, & our national leaders!!! Amen!!!
buddy34 3 years ago