Chojja should have just made some more guardians and less Devourers then bombed the Archons from a distance until it was safe to bring in the Devourers. Keeping his army a bit spread so as to avoid Mass Maelstrom.
Im surprised this even made it to the late game.He had few game winning shots in the early game and screwed them up for no reason.When he had his first mass ling attack he should of just keep em coming or even go for ultras and that would be pretty much it.Great game by Reach tho.
Yea its so hard to say for everything. We can see both sides of the game, they can only see their own side. The thing is, 300APM is fantastic for early game stuff, but when you get to huge games like this, its just not enough, and lots of mistakes start showing up. Both players had their fair share. Awesome game though, wont forget it anytime soon.
chojja decided to humiliate reach by building nothing except zerglings, pro loser if your gonna humiliate someone you do it after you win like fbh, not in the middle of a game and have reach come back and beat you
Great commentating Cholera! Seriously making those 30-35 waiting minutes interesting with historical trivia is just amazing! Thanks alot, I so enjoy your casts!
To be honest, Chojja played horribly for a while, but Reach was sold throughout the game. His idea to use dark Archons to counter devourers was brilliant.
I can see why Reach is so respected in the Starcraft esport world.
And Chojja's lack of creative play plus his careless micro all through the game made things so insane all through this beast of a series.
Thank you, Cholera. You are simply the best commentator these days. You not only educate the masses and aspiring war buffs like myself but you also tie it altogether with the subject matter at hand(much like a good teacher does).
Honestly, Chojja made way too many mistakes. His unit choices were bizarre. He shouldn't just mass sunkens or mass zerglings or mass devourers. It seriously doesn't work like that. Also, he spent most of his time doing jack squat. He sat on his 5 resource bases doing nothing. He sat on his huge ultra/ling force doing nothing. Then he sits on his devourer fleet doing nothing. All he does is react to Reach's play.
The way he played this game, I feel like even I could have beaten him. He didn't do any drops or harassing. His micro was lackluster. Heck, Reach walked into his base THREE times with nothing but six zealots and took out all of his tech.
Oh yeah, I just remembered another mistake. He let his overlords get RAGED! by corsairs in midgame. I died a little inside when I saw so many overlords go down.
chojja actually had better force here but his lack of creativity was disappointing. he should've encircled reach's force with devos from very far away and then attacked inward with all of them, making a full on reach. if he landed plague on his air then that definitely would be the end; maelstrom all well and good but too slow offense v. too many targets, but again they needed to be in a full blown circle around the toss, which is easily done with all the time they had. plague maybe notNeed@all
LOLOLOL I KNEW IT! When I saw that Stargate build... I knew it was Arbiter, that's the only thing that might change the tide of the battle with significant difference
Well, Chojja should have known that you can't win by staying in your base and not attacking ... This gave Reach all opportunities to scout him and come with a great counter strategy (malestrom ;).
Thanks for the amazing commentary! Your OSL finals were so great as well, you're topping the 10k views already, the set will be #1 most viewed gaming videos of the week.
reach is expanding all the time but lings are disturbing him all the way. reach didnt have any spare unit to deal w/ the harrasment. and chojja had exellent macro in the early games. i dont know him very well so i dont know hes skill at macroing. i guess chojja is more of a "overall" strategy than "mini-tactics". and no one deserves a title such as "zergtard" for lossing against a Professional player.. if reach lost should u call him "protard" then?
Ok.... other than the maelstroms, that has gotta be the WORST decision making i've ever seen two pros make in an SC match. So apparently Chojja is retarded, and desearves to be renamed zergtard for 1. making mass cracklings for half the dam game, 2. not macroing... at all, his apm that game looked lower than mine, 3. Not getting defilers... until late late late game. Unless u actually ensnare right, queens are useless. And Reach, as much as i love u, LEARN TO FUCKING EXPAND
Haha i jsut cant stop thinking about cartoons when i watch chojja play.. specially when he gets masshed potatoes in pimpest plays.. he is like the goofy villian making tiny pathetic tactics and gains minimum.and in the end always loses his evil castle against some legendery hero crushing him in a verry godlike and playfully funny fashion!
Reach is the entire teenage mutant ninja turtles! And Chojja is just krang surrounded by way too many footsoldiers.And single pigs and rhinos as as his ace.
Awesome; I have to 5 star each part now. It was a great game, and hilarious commentary. I don't know why you like Reach so much, but I guess you have a thing for strong men ;). With all the history in the middle, you did miss some cool broodlings and such, but it was worth it, I think. And that was some serious pimp play by the Mantoss. And by far the best maelstrom I have ever seen. Oh, and I agree, in the middle when Chojja wasn't building, it was because he was slacking on his overlords.
chojja wouldve done better if he just attack moved 10 minutes before, he is so dumb worst progamer i ever seen worse than hyuk
attackfighter 10 months ago
LOL AT THE GUY IN THE AUDIENCE AT 5:38
Stefan773 1 year ago
I'm a Reach fan-boy too and seeing this old school games just make my day xD
fenixd4sc 1 year ago
That ain't no maelstrom. That's a MANSTROM.
AroundTweed 1 year ago 3
zvp super lategame is so imba
noamzilo 1 year ago
is it me or is reach hot
jetsamjetsam 1 year ago
Why is there a svastika on the map?
02:25
Kuckooracha 1 year ago
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DrPapperman 1 year ago
@DrPapperman Well, given that you just saw WHY he waited for the right moment, that comment pretty much makes you look like a gigantic idiot.
Mizzkyttie 1 year ago
Chojja just look so sad there... haa..... 9:29
Rawnesss 1 year ago
actually wat do acid spores d
kingkinglo 2 years ago
Slow down the units they hit plus if I'm not mistaken add damage dealt by other units like hydra's and muta's. The more spores, the more damage.
MupMan0815 2 years ago
no, actually they just slow down the fire rate of units, they don't do additional damage
very effective against corsairs since corsairs have low base damage but high rate of fire
TaofD 2 years ago
@TaofD
Actually they lower the defense of that unit, they'll take 1 more damage from any attack per spore.
elan2000 1 year ago
I'm surprised Choejja didn't continue mopping up bases with defiler/swarm/hydras. He had serious momentum at that point.
ameryllw 2 years ago
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mutalisks are bad.
daydayhyphy 2 years ago
Chojja should have just made some more guardians and less Devourers then bombed the Archons from a distance until it was safe to bring in the Devourers. Keeping his army a bit spread so as to avoid Mass Maelstrom.
Kaanin 2 years ago
He might of thought he had too many sairs
slyfoot 2 years ago
Im surprised this even made it to the late game.He had few game winning shots in the early game and screwed them up for no reason.When he had his first mass ling attack he should of just keep em coming or even go for ultras and that would be pretty much it.Great game by Reach tho.
abs1abs 2 years ago
Yea its so hard to say for everything. We can see both sides of the game, they can only see their own side. The thing is, 300APM is fantastic for early game stuff, but when you get to huge games like this, its just not enough, and lots of mistakes start showing up. Both players had their fair share. Awesome game though, wont forget it anytime soon.
Kaanin 2 years ago
Funny match, drooled over the perfect maelstroms. =D
Epic manly match as expected!
9Raza 2 years ago
MANtoss indeed!
insightliviu 2 years ago
i has a bucket
jplate8 2 years ago 2
Cholera has a little bit too disturbing of a bro-mance with Reach.
ishboh 2 years ago 2
wow
kylepwndyou 2 years ago
whos better reach or bisu
FEARdaMEDIC 2 years ago
Reach doesn't play on this level anymore. Overall i would say Nal_Ra. He made a toss what is nowadays.
lothgore 2 years ago
Bisu. Conversely, if there were no Reach and there would BE no Bisu.
keymaker2112 2 years ago 5
Swastika @ 5:51
rayruiz12345 2 years ago
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Simple story, when 2 armies clash against each other, the one thats able to cancel the other wins, nothing so surprising there.
DanyF02 2 years ago
LOL AT THE 12 at 4:30ish which means that you have to be 12 or over towatch it.
ILuvhFood 2 years ago
this game never gets boring
SmartTofu 2 years ago
we need a stronger word than "epic" to describe that maelstrom.
TheCriminal2334 2 years ago 61
MMM: Most Manly Moment
gnahzdivad 2 years ago 5
I HAS A BUCKET
HatakiSagara 2 years ago
chojja decided to humiliate reach by building nothing except zerglings, pro loser if your gonna humiliate someone you do it after you win like fbh, not in the middle of a game and have reach come back and beat you
zheng0000 2 years ago
the way he just strolled over it seemed so casual
boothesquirrel 2 years ago
How did he manage to malestorm so many devourers?? Only he and god can do this.... and god doesn't exist!
(ooops that's gonna be a thumbs down party :O )
trelokamenos 2 years ago 66
thumbs up from the agnostic!!! also on the "greatest fictional BAMF" thread on TL, its definitely either god or a really big shark.
ShankHA32 2 years ago 2
+6 reporting in
Caesar512 2 years ago
I'm so giving you a thumbs up for writing "malestorm" for the mantoss. instead of "maelstrom" as non mantoss player uses :P
eddiemc7 2 years ago 5
LOL ahahah that was even unintentional!
MALEstorm ftw!
trelokamenos 2 years ago 4
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@trelokamenos i can only wonder how much hate you got for that XD
raisukeuzarachi 1 year ago
@trelokamenos You live in an atheist time; how can you expect even one thumbs down? :D
I mean, 90% of all people are atheist! :D
AMaidensWrath 1 year ago
@AMaidensWrath "I mean, 90% of all people are atheist!"
Are you sure? At least in ym country is not like you said D:
wjavier316 1 year ago
@trelokamenos interesting how u currently have 66 likes >:P
maskeh 1 month ago
Great commentating Cholera! Seriously making those 30-35 waiting minutes interesting with historical trivia is just amazing! Thanks alot, I so enjoy your casts!
mongofredrik 2 years ago 10
z wasnt smart lol
Mendelevium146 2 years ago
at 8:28, my earphones just exploded!
Btw, epic maelstrom
001124 2 years ago
Epic. Full stop.
Quiltfish 2 years ago
i shatted
Conceptzx2 2 years ago 3
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Protoss is bullshit race.
Tobiash87 2 years ago
fuckgin dificult to keep the base alive, someoen who can use the abilities earned the glory bitch
tyrannicoystercult 2 years ago
OH MY GOD
i shat bricks 2
thank you cholera :cry:
reneg86 3 years ago 4
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eat a cucumber
TerrorBlack 2 years ago
Excellent Excellent commentary. This was really fun to watch thanks to you =).
RLDing 3 years ago 6
Epic maelstrom, I shat bricks.
jackywushengzong 3 years ago 2
they be stealin' my bucket?
LOL what a pimp maelstrom
punkmaster95 3 years ago 2
wow, great job on commentating an hour match i'd be dead
PwnNubtarzz 3 years ago 3
To be honest, Chojja played horribly for a while, but Reach was sold throughout the game. His idea to use dark Archons to counter devourers was brilliant.
bogwaga107 3 years ago 4
When I saw that last play, I crapped myself.
RisenOrder1224 3 years ago 4
oh dear!!!!!!!!!!!
nacyop 3 years ago
Holy crap, that game was grueling.
I can see why Reach is so respected in the Starcraft esport world.
And Chojja's lack of creative play plus his careless micro all through the game made things so insane all through this beast of a series.
Thank you, Cholera. You are simply the best commentator these days. You not only educate the masses and aspiring war buffs like myself but you also tie it altogether with the subject matter at hand(much like a good teacher does).
SiouxTube 3 years ago 13
Honestly, Chojja made way too many mistakes. His unit choices were bizarre. He shouldn't just mass sunkens or mass zerglings or mass devourers. It seriously doesn't work like that. Also, he spent most of his time doing jack squat. He sat on his 5 resource bases doing nothing. He sat on his huge ultra/ling force doing nothing. Then he sits on his devourer fleet doing nothing. All he does is react to Reach's play.
wpelfeta 3 years ago 3
The way he played this game, I feel like even I could have beaten him. He didn't do any drops or harassing. His micro was lackluster. Heck, Reach walked into his base THREE times with nothing but six zealots and took out all of his tech.
wpelfeta 3 years ago 3
Oh yeah, I just remembered another mistake. He let his overlords get RAGED! by corsairs in midgame. I died a little inside when I saw so many overlords go down.
wpelfeta 3 years ago 4
if you think you're so pro why aren't you in Korea owning these guys?
noob
sean6201 3 years ago 4
they arent saying that they can own chojja no way they are just saying some mistakes chojja made and comparing him..
talic864 3 years ago 2
And thats what you get when you dont have the balls and mass your units....... really didnt think Chojja could have lost that! haha
Great match!
BazukaT 3 years ago 2
lol i think i'm a mantoss fanboy now too
empirerakeback 3 years ago 3
chojja actually had better force here but his lack of creativity was disappointing. he should've encircled reach's force with devos from very far away and then attacked inward with all of them, making a full on reach. if he landed plague on his air then that definitely would be the end; maelstrom all well and good but too slow offense v. too many targets, but again they needed to be in a full blown circle around the toss, which is easily done with all the time they had. plague maybe notNeed@all
regresseur 3 years ago
This has to be the manliest commentary out there. The first 20 mins you must have said "manly" at least as many times :)
Excellent commentary, excellent war stories, excellent mantoss play. GG!
djYngin 3 years ago
Love how the observers focus on Chojjas newly built devourers, hanging around while his ground forces are slaughtered. Like four times...
GabrielKorp 3 years ago
everyone loves the mantoss, go mantoss!!
o.0 nice commentary like always cholera
dragonkillaga 3 years ago
The video info is a BIG spoiler. Please refrain. Cheers for the vid though
photoshopdepth 3 years ago
That manstrom was a pp.
BenIGreen 3 years ago
imba protoss
NaturalTvventy 3 years ago
LOLOLOL I KNEW IT! When I saw that Stargate build... I knew it was Arbiter, that's the only thing that might change the tide of the battle with significant difference
Governator260 3 years ago
Well, Chojja should have known that you can't win by staying in your base and not attacking ... This gave Reach all opportunities to scout him and come with a great counter strategy (malestrom ;).
twilight1138 3 years ago
Hm dont know Chojja didnt play well..
larzarus1234 3 years ago
Noooo, thy be stealin' my bucket and my devourers...
>poor chojjawalrus
multitaskingmaren 3 years ago
Thanks for the amazing commentary! Your OSL finals were so great as well, you're topping the 10k views already, the set will be #1 most viewed gaming videos of the week.
itai82 3 years ago
Fucking MANLY!
finalcloud13 3 years ago 3
reach is expanding all the time but lings are disturbing him all the way. reach didnt have any spare unit to deal w/ the harrasment. and chojja had exellent macro in the early games. i dont know him very well so i dont know hes skill at macroing. i guess chojja is more of a "overall" strategy than "mini-tactics". and no one deserves a title such as "zergtard" for lossing against a Professional player.. if reach lost should u call him "protard" then?
11661420 3 years ago 2
obviously it would be "tardtoss" :D
rodhak1 3 years ago
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no, mantard
FrigoCoder 2 years ago
sry for the rant, but that game rly... sucked, cept for Reach's maelstroms of course.
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Ok.... other than the maelstroms, that has gotta be the WORST decision making i've ever seen two pros make in an SC match. So apparently Chojja is retarded, and desearves to be renamed zergtard for 1. making mass cracklings for half the dam game, 2. not macroing... at all, his apm that game looked lower than mine, 3. Not getting defilers... until late late late game. Unless u actually ensnare right, queens are useless. And Reach, as much as i love u, LEARN TO FUCKING EXPAND
arthainius 3 years ago
Fuck You moron, I bet reach can beat u anyway
INS1cells 3 years ago 2
yeh he laid down a manstrome asswhipping
dragonkillaga 3 years ago 3
Haha i jsut cant stop thinking about cartoons when i watch chojja play.. specially when he gets masshed potatoes in pimpest plays.. he is like the goofy villian making tiny pathetic tactics and gains minimum.and in the end always loses his evil castle against some legendery hero crushing him in a verry godlike and playfully funny fashion!
Reach is the entire teenage mutant ninja turtles! And Chojja is just krang surrounded by way too many footsoldiers.And single pigs and rhinos as as his ace.
kakao777 3 years ago 4
XD Omg, that's exactly how I feel about Chojja. Well said.
HunterBlackLuna 3 years ago
Hehe cheer ;)
kakao777 3 years ago
The manliest malestrom in the history of SC. Of course they'd pick it as a PP!
tejntanga 3 years ago 5
MANSTROM.
jdawg2o4 3 years ago 13
I has a bucket =)
TwiSm69 3 years ago 2
NOOOOo IM TRYING VENT BUT UR THING IS FULL NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CHOLERA :(
nicmanity 3 years ago
picture made my day
patatepowa 3 years ago
Awesome; I have to 5 star each part now. It was a great game, and hilarious commentary. I don't know why you like Reach so much, but I guess you have a thing for strong men ;). With all the history in the middle, you did miss some cool broodlings and such, but it was worth it, I think. And that was some serious pimp play by the Mantoss. And by far the best maelstrom I have ever seen. Oh, and I agree, in the middle when Chojja wasn't building, it was because he was slacking on his overlords.
EebstertheGreat 3 years ago 2
i like that picture of the manatee and the man.
whatevera 3 years ago 2
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i hate protoss
lazomaniac 3 years ago
Holy shit those maelstroms was EPIC.
shurikin93 3 years ago 5
actually this was a MALEstrom ;D
triplestartriple 3 years ago 21
lol
shurikin93 3 years ago
lmao at pic at the end
sharma193 3 years ago 3
Wtf with the pic at the end:P
megadethqc 3 years ago 2
Finally, this game lasted way too long.But anyway nice to hear the history references and the commentary.
MCprodigy07 3 years ago
chojja was building nothing mid-game when you pointed it out because that was right when all his overloads were cornered by the corsairs
vamperz2 3 years ago
FIGHTING
geekprideyo 3 years ago 2
I like the picture at the end =D
illusionist1324 3 years ago 4
What an awesome pimp play. I never even imagined such a good outcome.
NeoSoviet 3 years ago
LOL extra MANLY
dihsu1 3 years ago 10