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  • Nice vid. Shows the point nicely

  • I like your video, I have done several of my own, not very professional. It's a no-brainer that we should be encouraging bikes and discouraging cars in cities, yet apparently, many have no brain. Stay safe, "kamakarider" from Honolulu, Hawaii.

  • As a driver I hate cops, as a cyclist I love em'. Where I live if you drive, park, or stand in a bike lane your almost garuanteed a ticket.

  • What else would you expect from the pigs?

  • Hey, I have to agree this is crazy, the bike lane is there so they don't have to drive on the road and shouldn't be used by cars. I also have to say that many bikers use the road insted, at least here in washington. The other day I was stuck behind a biker going less than 10mph on a road marked 35. The dumbass also was a big enough asshole to switch lanes cutting someone else off and use a fucking turnlane at a light as if he is a car. If I wouldn't go to jail, i'd have run his ass over.

  • It is California state law that drivers merge into the bike lane 200-50 feet before making a turn. Yeah, so I wonder why the cops aren't giving tickets to the drivers... Maybe it's because they're following the law. "the cars need to slow down." Yeah, but I guess that doesn't apply to bikes because uhhh... They're more pretentious and hypocritical?

  • @alginplumkin Well, they're also 'raping' the sidewalk, so that's not really a solution.

  • @alginplumkin Biking on the sidewalk is illegal (in case you didn't know). Bikes have as much a right to the road as cars do, even without a striped bike lane (in case you didn't know).

    "the road is for cars" is a basic attitude problem.

  • @alginplumkin Hey moron its illegal to ride on the sidewalk.

  • @alginplumkin actually when i use to ride my bike i almost got a ticket for riding on the side walk... bikes have to use the road just like cars...

  • I prefer riding on the road rather than the sidewalk or even a pedestrian/cyclist pathway because I'm much more likely to kill a pedestrian riding alongside them then I am to be killed by a car hitting me.

    I the case of that video, I would just give up on the bike lane entirely and take the ENTIRE lane. I have a right to it and as long as I'm moving at a decent speed, there is nothing anybody can do about it.

  • Look at all those faggots lining up to pay $3.27 a gallon at least while the cyclists go around them.

  • This is why they need Critical Mass in SF CA

  • So where are people going to walk if we put the bike lane on the sidewalk?

  • @bikelikeme I think the sidewalks should be extended farther into the street, and put the bike lane on the road side of the sidewalk. I think mixing pedestrian and cyclist traffic is safer than mixing cars with cyclist, but I like the idea of bicycle only paths/sidewalks

  • @youztuber5000 no actually if the cops would have done their jobs.. the drivers would have gotten tickets..the bike lane is the same as any other lane of traffic..is it legal to block traffic like that on any other street..i bet not.....and by the way.. riding a bike on sidewalks is as illegal as driving your car on them.. so get a clue and a brain before you speak

  • @Gr1mm1g3r Why don't you get a clue, here in Seattle it is legal to ride on sidewalks. Is it not illegal to block traffic if your driving your car 15 mph in a 40mph?

    YES it is and it should be the same for bicycles if they want to be treated the same as cars.

  • @youztuber5000 if you look they are waiting to get to a pump...they arent moving 15mph... just look for your self..sitting still is not moving..and seatle is not san fransico.. so get a clue....and i bet if the guy rode his bike on the sidewalk next to the cop.. he would have given him a ticket..well maybe not... depends on circumstance...i know here in indiana,,,you can and will get tickets for riding on sidewalk

  • @youztuber5000 i like the way,,, that some people think its ok to say in since they are from some where else..all things should be done their way,, glad its legal in seatle to ride on sidewalks with pedestrians... but that sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen.. first time a cyclist hits a pedestrian at 10-18mph...

  • @youztuber5000 One time i rode on the side walk cops kicked me and my friend out of the side walk. He 13. and they expect him to know how to ride the street, know all the laws of the road.

  • @youztuber5000 - next time u get run over by a cyclist in the sidewalk don't complain.

  • Now if the street blowers would stop using the bike lane as a dump site for debris. And street sweepers actually sweep the bike lane more than once a year. Oddly enough they always sweep right before fall.

  • Stupid cops should give tickets to people blocking the lane

  • same shit happens in romania!

  • i would just stop and punch these douchebags into their face

  • Since there are three car lanes on that street and only one bike lane, wouldn't it make more sense if it were that the cars would line up for gas in the car lane closest to the bike lane, instead of sitting in the bike lane? Then the cars could turn into the gas station when there's room. It would be less of a traffic mess and safer.

    There should be special traffic flow & safety considerations in such places as gas stations and other businesses where drivers have to wait in long lines.

  • "Drivers are always careful" is the LOL comment of the year. Congrats.

  • @bikelikeme Well, it is true. Drivers are the one that are usually the careful of the bunch. Cyclists are usually the one that are quite careless. Why don't you do your own observation yourself to prove that it is so. Tell me how many cyclists there are that go through red light, stop signs and who unexpectedly weave in and out of traffic while disregarding their own personal safety. And then, do the same thing with car drivers. Seeing the cyclists being hit by cars is no laughing matter.

  • What part of San Francisco are you observing from?

  • @bikelikeme Polk street, Market Street,  Mission Street and also Stockton at Sutter....

  • @waddleduckie1 dude where do you live, i had a guy from new york tell me Philly's drivers are more aggro then the ones there. Cars are dangerous, and plenty of motorists have risky driving behavior, don't blame the victim of not being encased in 2000 lbs of metal plastic and glass. Not to mention cars need to be phased out now.

  • Notice that driver in the white car cut into the line for gas, creating a worse traffic mess... Tsk-tsk...

  • This is really bad, not just for cyclists but also for cars. What should cars do? Block the car lanes? If they stay on the road people are angry, if they go to the bike lane same thing. They would really disrupt the flow of traffic. To me it is clear that the infrastructure is bad, stop blaming each other and start blaming the people responsible for this mess. Separated bike lanes are the solution, the Netherlands, Denmark have proven that this works a lot better.

  • Separate bike lanes are the answer ? You're kiiding right ? Segregating bikes from the street is taking away a cyclist's legal right to use the road in case you weren't aware fedfan ... My 2 cents worth ..

  • I personally dislike bike lanes because:

    1) You have ride on the edge right next to cars to avoid the door zone

    2) Most bike lanes have lots of broken glass, making flats common

    3) There is no way to tell if car sees you when you check your mirror. With vehicular cycling, you see cars making preparations to overtake you far in advance. But one has no such clues with bicycle lanes.

  • Sorry you don't like these typical bike lanes. But please use them anyway. They get more respect when more people use them, and in many places, it's illegal not to use them if they are kept reasonably clear of traffic.

    Consider this, I've worked as a messenger for nyc for 3 years as of now and I always make a point of using the bike lanes, and I still average 23mph on my fast runs and simply pass slower folks in the traffic lane.

  • This video is great.

    Very funny and a great illustration of blatant disregard for cyclists. Nice work.

    I've got (slightly) mixed feelings about cyclists getting physical with cars/drivers, but the guy doing the mirrors at 2:10 really made me laugh.

  • Isn't it illegal to have your car in the bike lane? Then why will they not write the ticket? I would be getting badge numbers and making a complaint.

  • I'm trying to figure out if there's a problem shown in that video, or something that someone would like changed?

    My only nitpicking would be technique: Some of those cyclists waited till really, really late to merge out of the bike lane. I would have started using the traffic lane much farther upstream of the obstruction. But that perception may be an artifact of the viewing angle and the focal length of the lens.

  • Those cops suck.

  • FUCK CARS. FUCK THEM IN THE ASS WITH GLEE AND RAPTURE. FUCK THEM WITH ALL THE POWER OF GREYSKULL. FUCK THEM. FUCK THEM. FUCK THEM. THEY ARE A BANE ON HUMANITY, EARTH AND THE UNIVERSE. (At least until they are no longer using harmful propulsion systems.) ;) P.S. Excuse me for the ridiculous ranting behaviour, but I just had to spew it forth. I feel much better now.

  • @iempoor is it because you cant afford one? its alright when you get a job and stop hanging out in starbucks all day you could buy one.

  • @171rider Or are you just too lazy to actually move your legs and save money?

  • @xriceboii a 20 mile ride doesnt sound like a fun bike ride especially when i have to work 12 hours.......

  • @171rider 20 miles? I was talking about in the city you live in.

  • @xriceboii i live in sacramento and i cant ride my bike on the freeway soooo vehicles are the way to go.

  • @171rider Well I just find biking to be more enjoyable and beneficial than driving a vehicle but of course you will need a vehicle for long distances.

  • @171rider you're an idiot

  • @iempoor am i ? or are the bigot here?

  • @iempoor Cars are the means of transportation all of the civilized world. They are what keep our technology moving. If it weren't for cars, you wouldn't be able to have the rest of the luxuries that we enjoy. For example your computer or phone, what ever you are using to write you're dumbass comment. Without cars companies wouldn't make them as it'd be far to hard to send a bike with 100 computers strapped to it down the bike highway. So before you say "fuck cars" realize that you rely on them.

  • @MikeskylerBJJ There are some extremists who totally hate cars (such as the "fuck cars" guy), but most people have a more reasonable view. Cars are certainly here to stay, but that doesn't mean we need to bow down and worship them. The way roads are currently built forces people to drive because it makes cycling a pain and transit slow. Redesigning our roads to be fair to all users would not inhibit any of the luxuries associated with cars, but would make streets faster, safer and more pleasant.

  • I've seen some of your videos CL, & i've got to say that in some places what you're teaching, while right, will get cyclists hurt or even killed.

    If only everything was a perfect world, you'd be top banana. but riding's more than knowing the prim & proper rules. I'd like to get you up here & show you some real world biking, from bored punks looking for a target to rolling down an at least 50deg hill covered in ice - BACKWARDS! That's when you find out what you're made of.

  • I say cyclists take the matter in their own hands. you see a dickhead parked in the bikelane, charge the drive $20 or so for breaking the law & collect it from them right then & there!

  • This isn't a totalitarian state; anyone that is cited for any infraction is presumed innocent and entitled to either appear in court or sign a promise to appear in court, or they can plead guilty and pay (a ticket). What cops are not allowed to do in the US, is act as judge and jury. You might do better in a totalitarian state that uses Roman or Napoleonic law; have you considered relocating to one? Their laws tend to be simpler and enforced then & there, as your prose supports.

  • I know it's hard for you to use that dumbed down brain of yours, so I'll make it simple.

    bike rider is there & sees it, jury was never there & does not. & the pigs there did nothing about it.

    Now go back to yuppieville & leave the riding to the REAL cyclists & not the "sport" riders like yourself.

  • So you think vigilante justice is acceptable. You are simply uncivilized.

    Yuppie? Real cyclists? Are we detecting some class-ism along with your obvious stupidity? I grew up street, and I've been riding bicycles for myriad trip types since I was 8 years old; thats 39 years. And along the way I bothered to educate myself; you should try it sometime, it really helps with critical thinking and improves civility. You are acting stupidly for thinking you know my life from comments to YouTube.

  • Tell us mr know it all, what the fuck are cyclists supposed to do?

    Bicycle's stolen, cops don't do shit unliess you're rich. somebody cuts you off where you slam into them, unless you're upperclass they don't do shit. Cars parked in bike lanes? THE COPS DON'T DO SHIT! As for your life, you've said it yourself your a SPORT cyclist.

    Tell us then, mr elite cyclist, age & total hours you've rode a bike?

  • Ad hominem attacks are hardly the way to have constructive discussion. But since you did ask a reasonable question, in your own childish and hostile way, Ill tell you what cyclists are supposed to do: follow traffic laws. I did not say I was a sport cyclist. This is your fantasy. Ive been bicycle commuting to school and later work for nearly 40 years, and I use a trailer to haul groceries, etc. You are an angry bigot, and you badly need to grow up and learn to communicate as an adult.

  • Here is the applicable text of CA Vehicle code 22100:

    22100. ... the driver of any vehicle intending to turn upon a highway shall do so as follows: (a) Right Turns. Both the approach for a right-hand turn and a right-hand turn shall be made as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway...

    Thus the motorists were merging to the road edge to protect cyclists in the roadway from right hook turns, and they can do this up to 200 ft prior to the turn per 21209.

  • Driving through a bike lane to make a turn is one thing. A bunch of people stacked in the bike lane waiting to make a turn is quite another.

  • The two scenarios are essentially the same as such behaviors are both legal and safest for the bicyclists, since motorists moving to the edge of the left/right side of roadway, to make left/right turns, prevents cyclists from passing on the left/right and being left/right hooked. It is normal for motorists to "stack" to the road edge to make turns, and through traffic, including bicyclists are expected to move away from the road edge to pass stopped/queuing drivers.

  • They're NOT the same dumbass.

    I'll bet you don't even ride!

  • I'm a League Certified Instructor, national, state and local cycling advocate, and cycling video pioneer. Did you bother to look at my channel to figure out whether I "ride"? Or do you just react like an emotional simpleton when you see something that displeases you? Either way, you need to grow up, learn traffic law and learn to effectively communicate. If your cycling is anything like your communication, it might be worth video-taping it as an example of how not to ride in traffic.

  • The motorists in the video are operating per CA Vehicle Codes 21717, 21209 and 22100:

    21717. When...necessary for the driver of a motor vehicle to cross a bicycle lane ... to

    make a turn, the driver shall drive ... into the bicycle lane prior to making the turn ... pursuant to Section 22100.

    21209(a) No person shall drive a motor vehicle in a bicycle lane...except as follows: ... (3) To prepare for a turn within a distance of 200 feet from the intersection.

    For 22100 see next comment.

  • Bike lanes in america are alot wider than the equivilent in the UK! BUT we still have the same issues!! (the guy at 1.51((in black with red gloves)) has really narrow bars!) Nice vid

  • see this is the reason why i wish for $12 a gallon gas

    just be patient and this cars and SUV will soon be much less or gone!!

  • whats with that cop saying that they wont give out any tickets? man you would think with the rising gas prices cyclists would get more respect. Personally I would like to see more cycle lanes (that are next to or on major road ways!) and strict law enforcement of them anyways be safe out there and fuck any cager who gives you shit.

  • Study your traffic regulations. Bicyclists don't exclusively own the bicycle lanes. Motor vehicles can legally cross bicycle lanes to enter or leave stores or shops, other roadways, and so on. There are no laws preventing a vehicle from stopping in any lane, traffic or bicycle, when doing so if necessary to safely complete the turn. Bicycles behind, just like any other vehicle not able to pass, must wait behind that vehicle until the roadway ahead is clear.

  • Study yours.

    San Francisco Traffic Code:

    SEC. 38.N. PARKING IN BICYCLE LANES PROHIBITED; FINES.

  • I don't believe I said anything about parking in bike lanes. At the same time, this video focuses on people turning into what appears to be a gas station in San Francisco, not parking in bike lanes. Therefore, Section 38.N of the San Francisco Traffic Code (Parking in Bicycle Lanes) just does not apply here. Situations like this may suck for bicyclists, but take comfort in the fact that it sucks just as much for other vehicles stuck behind those cars as well.

  • Well, if that wasn't good enough for you, how about this?

    "No person shall block any portion of a marked bicycle lane with his or her vehicle on weekdays from the hours of 7:00 a.m. to 9:00 a.m. and from 4:00 p.m. to 6:00 p.m." SF traffic code 38 N.

    Those cars are waiting to turn, sitting in the bike lane obstructing it. Not only is it a pain in the ass, but it's a ticketable offense.

  • Section 38N as a whole deals with "parking in bicycle lanes," not driving through them. In fact, the San Francisco Traffic Code says nothing about that, but the California Vehicle Code does (Sections 21209 and 21717).

    But we could quote regulations all day without getting anywhere. In the end, the SF cops in your video not ticketing is perhaps the best evidence of no relevant law against.

    And I'll just leave it at that since this is eating up more time than I have to waste. Take care.

  • The SF cops in the video not ticketing is a case of lax enforcement.

  • stewartx5: It is OK for a automobile to cross a bike lane when it is clear of cyclists, but it is ILLEGAL to part on a bike lane. There ARE laws preventing that, why don't you study traffic regulations?

  • stewartx5: Never mind, you meant stop not park. Sorry

  • That's why I hate car drivers in towns. Take 10 cars = a fully blocked road.

    Never would get that (dangerous) result with 10 bikes, serching a place to park...

  • Oh my! They were doing that to turn into a gas station! ROFL!!!!! 5 stars

  • The same idiots that park in bike lanes, also park at bus stops, block crosswalks. All we can hope is that their engines blow up.

  • I wouldent say the USA is behind I would say there doing things just different, and in many way a little better in my own honest humble opinion.

    I respect your veiw's in push bikes, but please remember not everyone can ride a push bike, disabled,and the older generation, but in genral, you are correct, WE should all use push bikes if we can.

    Im thinking of getting 1, then my buisness takes over, and i spend the money on a some new gear, or serviceing

  • The USa is also converting many pick ups, and deasel engine rigs, to run on "used cooking fat"

    there is a place very close to me that does just this, and has a very very good buisness.

  • cont.

    the smart car, has recently been launched in the usa, and while people in europe proberly say, " usa is behind, remember we and you on your bike cover a greater distance than your counter parts in europe.

    Holland is a great push bike place, but there lucky to have mainly flat land well mostly.

    Where if you lived where i do, Washington state, mountains, desert, push bikes are only seen as a way for a work out.

  • Holland: before the last 3-4 decades of pro-bike legislation, they were just as hung up on automobiles as the USA or the UK is.

    The "it's flat" analysis comes up...flat.

  • yes and ????? is that it ???

  • well look because holland is flat, makes it easer to ride a push biks for all no ?? inless if you think going up mountains is dead easy ..... where i live, we have , snow, desert, high desert, and MOUNTAINS !! roads are bad

  • I'm saying that policies encouraging bicycling are much more important to Holland's success with bicycles than any factor of topography or climate, etc.

  • sorry i called you a biggot, that was very wrong of me.

    i grew up in england, born raised, and to be honest, they use there cars, just as much as the people in the usa do, if not a little bit more.

    im a motorcycle messenger/courier, very rare breed in the usa, but i do see the changes.

  • thats true we did not sighn it.

    we did then it was with drawn.

    but how ever , there are many indipendent companys that are converting cars to run on dofferent energys in the usa, unfortuntaly you seem to be such a biggot you can not see.

  • If the "biggot" thing was pointed at me, I'll have to clarify my point of view:

    I'm not saying that nothing is done about emissions in US; I'm saying that my impression is that NOT ENOUGH is done, compared to the number of inhabitants.

    Besides, many of those people take it a civil right to own and use one or more cars every day, even it's only for showoff, pleasure or shopping around the corner. Many of those show-off cars are definately not economic on fuel whatever type they use.

  • More of that:

    I'm the kind of guy who feel bad about using the car for a 2-3 mile distance if I don't need to carry something too large for my bike. I know many people all over the world laugh at that opinion, but I believe the number of laughers is quite higher in US than in northern Europe.

    I can change mind if presented to statistics telling something else, but if they existed, why don't the media ever mention that? (yeah, US media too).

  • umm no were all for it , infact there are sevral indipendent companys my way that convert cars to run on different trys of energy, and my town is pretty small, 1/2 million

  • Big Oil and the Bush Family. They own you, your car and your wallet. They don't like us cyclists at all. It was Alfred P. Sloan, General Motors CEO in the 20s & 30s, whose successful plan for selling more cars was "Eliminate the alternatives." You car owners are HIS bitches now.

  • I've heard too that the US have problems accepting the international CO2 emission talks. Would that be my misunderstanding, or...?

  • You mean the Kyoto accord? Yeah, we wouldn't sign.

  • What was the reason?

  • bike lanes are teh gay.

    All your bike lanes are belong to us.... the car people.

    be afraid... our reptile brains prevent us from staying out of bike lanes.

  • This is why we shouldn't have these bike lanes in the first place. They paint bike lane on the street to appease the bicycle lobby, and now the bicyclists expect to be riding in their own world. Newsflash buddy, cars are traffic, bikes are traffic, and pedestrians are traffic, as such everyone has to give way for eachother's necessary turns and other manuevers.

  • yeah, they totally painted the lane to appease the bike lobby. obviously there's no real interest in cycling transportation.

  • Maybe the bike lobby themselves painted it, and bikelikeme is the head of the organization filming it afterwards to upset the rest of the lobby... not...

    Get a life, queensplasher south.

    If you don't want to wait for bikes when you turn right, you should put them in the middle of the road and see if that makes it easier for your petrolstinking one-man-one-vehicle lobby...

    :-) (because I can only read your post as a joke, right?)

  • petral stinking or deasel delivers all your bikes to the bike store's and parts for you.

    if it wasent for cars , truck, planes, you wouldent have the fine bycycle you got now.

    i hope 1 day your gonna be forced to drive somwhere far off to goto work.

  • Hey, I know what diesel and petrol does to logistics. I'll be in the other end of that system, hauling away hundreds of trashed bikes every month of the year, driving bike wrapping from bike shops for recycle plants, and dumping the leftovers from the larger meals all biking people have to eat since they burn more calories.

    That gives no reason to wish bad for bikers over one edge (or what you say over there). What the cars do in the vid, is illegal where I live.

  • great just great breaking wing mirrors off cars, for your own selfish revenge, what happens when that driver goes home and needs his mirrors ??? hopefully wont cause a real accident to a struggling single moms car.

    Or maybe move in a push biker, because he had no way of seeing him/her

  • there was absolutely no breaking of car mirrors in this video. what you saw was the slapping of car mirrors.

  • he slapped them. now me i used to key them....not a saftey thing but a cosmetic one..

  • Well if those two black-dressed pricks with the black/white car ain't doing nothing, you sure have shit laws over there.

    If I drive in the bike lane, my licence is suspended! (unless i'm on a bike or max-30km/h-moped, that is...)

  • the laws are fine, it's the enforcement of them that is the problem.

  • The laws could/should say what happens to officers not taking correct action, right?

  • I would imagine so.

  • What part of the CVC are they failing to enforce?

  • What they're failing to enforce the San Francisco Traffic Code:

    SEC. 38.N. PARKING IN BICYCLE LANES PROHIBITED; FINES.

  • i live in SF, i used to bike before i came here, took me a year but i got sick of the cars, bike lane parkers, honking, and stuff like your video shows.

    i just skateboard now, im not gonna get killed in traffic by bozoes like these drivers, sorry

  • wow, that's the first I've heard of someone switching to a skateboard from a bike.

  • this shit happens all the fucking time in chicago. the drivers on the street take up our lanes and tell us to get off the ride, and that's if they're polite and don't just run us over. i like the guy who hit the mirror. when people get too close i give their window a nice whack with my palm.

  • Great video, we have the same s*** in the UK, nice to see the dude in the video smacking the wing mirrors.

  • Motorists are *supposed* to merge into the bike lane for right turns per CVC 21209.

    I as a cyclist *want* right-turning traffic stopped in the bike lane. The other option -- that motorists should stand in the "car" lane adjacent to the bike lane -- is dangerous for cyclists.

    The cyclists in the video are merging into traffic passing to the left of the right-turning traffic, just like they're supposed to. This is safe and reasonable.

  • It's a line of cars sitting in a bike lane waiting to pull into a gas station.

  • Cyclelicious, I disagree on both the safety arguments.

    Here in Denmark the law is opposite - the cars *MUST* stay in the car lane if the bike lane is marked seperately.

    The cars *MUST* wait for bikes to pass on the inside before they turn.

    In combined turn lanes and bike lanes the cars should go close to the curb when there's room and bikes going straight on can pass on the left *IF THERE'S ROOM FOR IT*

  • When cars are waiting to turn left into Arco I pass on the right because I think it is safer than hoping they see me as I pass to the left. Same applies for cars turning right on two-way streets. I see it as a choice between staying out of the cars way or expecting them to yield when I approach for the rear. I want more protection than a law saying cars must yield.

  • Great to see so many people doing the right thing and getting on their bikes. Sucks that no one else sees that each one of them has to risk getting hit by cars just because of all the cars in their little tiny bike space.

  • Complete fucking retards get gas there. It's shittier gas which craps up their engines, and they drive from across the city to buy it. Thus making it more expensive in the long run. But all they see is that it's a few cents off, and figure they're "saving".

    Ugh.. Americans

  • nice editing, cute video

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