mmm ubieras alejado as la camara y te falta mas ritma no se te falta algo esa cancon va mas movida te falta meter mas redobles y mas remates usa vien los bongos el rtmo ue tevas es bueno pero nesecitas meterle mas candela
Nice vid although am I completely whacked or is the video slightly out of synch with the audio?
As a total beginner it makes discerning exactly what you are doing a little challenging. Also I would have loved to see both the Hembro and the Macho and beenable to see exactly what you are doing with your hands.
Good vid otherwise though gives me something to try and play/match to :)
what's there to get annoyed about? Ya gotta start somewhere, bro'!. The roll at the end could be a bit tighter, but you'll get tighter with practice...the martillo sounds clean and you're in sync with the piano...
Lookin' forward to hearin' more from you...and Matt (mdubuque) and Gary (bongorilao) are great guys to watch and learn from!
Cha cha chá was developed by composers who had played danzón and at first it was mainly played by charanga orchestras. There are parts in danzón songs that are called "cha cha chá" parts by some. The second video I pointed it is entitled "Viva el Cha Cha Cha Aragon", no clave again.
Just perform a google search and you will see that everyone agrees El Bodeguero is a typical cha cha chá. The singers also use the term. The rhythm section does not play as it would in a son - they don't use clave, for example. La Engañadora is considered by many as the first cha cha chá, and Orquesta Aragón as a very influential group in the development of the musical style.
Yeah, they sure are. How did you know? They have a sweet sound,quality and have the price as some LPs. These are the Gon Bops Tumbao Series. Thanks for the comment.
Jazzy, how did I miss this one?! Excellent variation in tones. I like your one-finger stroke followed by a three-finger stroke. You should do this video again with a little wider camera shot to show the martillo on the hembra side. This was an excellent presentation and teaching tool! Great work me brada! I could join in with a conga drum to go along with your martillo - some low double strokes. hehe
Hey JazzyJez, great to hear from you and see you getting ever-more into the bongos. Your touch and timing seems perfect, which doesn't surprise me at all since you're a dancer, and the music is dancing inside of you already - the bongos are just a great way to let it come out.
Keep it up my friend; you've got a great inner feel for bongos!
I really don't know where some people are getting this. some chachacha's have clave and bongo pattern in them. I will be glad to give you a list of songs that do. for example Sofrito by Mongo Santamaria has clave with Bongo playin
for example. I do not know the song you mentioned but maybe Mongo just thought it would be nice to experiment? He played at the time when they started with latin jazz, so they mixed a lot...
If you want to get technical an what instruments shouldn't be played. then music wouldn't be where it is, all aspects of music fuse several instruments. for example there is this band called Salsa Celtica that fuses scottish instruments such as bagpipes in their music. Not having clave or bongo in chachachas is like not having the congas in salsa. Salsa or latin jazz bands play chachacha, salsa & jazz. It all correlates with the music.
You are right that music should be open, and that's what I had indicated already by writing that you should do as you like and that maybe they experimented because it was the beginning of latin jazz. However, no clave or bongo in cha cha chá is not at all the same as no congas in salsa because salsa is usually played with congas, while cha cha chá is usually played without claves and bongó.
I wonder what kind of song you consider chachacha. Maybe you are comparing this comment to songs like Oye Como Va. We can sit here and discuss this back and forth but you already made up your mind. thanks for your comments though
Don't know why you get angry. I gave you an example of a page where what I said is stated as well. Here are 2 youtube videos of what I would say is typical cha cha chá:
watch?v=MVdUw1rF784
watch?v=6M5AygPuR9M (El Bodeguero)
Orquesta Aragón with characteristic güiro, flutes and violins. No bongó, no clave. La Engañadora is another example of a typical song. Unfortunately, I cannot find a good video here. But I can send it to you if you like. Could you send me the song you meant?
mmm ubieras alejado as la camara y te falta mas ritma no se te falta algo esa cancon va mas movida te falta meter mas redobles y mas remates usa vien los bongos el rtmo ue tevas es bueno pero nesecitas meterle mas candela
elnievesloco 1 year ago
You are sounding GREAT my friend! All the best to you!
alabubba 1 year ago
excelente
amsiermann 2 years ago
nice sweet rythem,great video
2bobdrummer 3 years ago
Nice vid although am I completely whacked or is the video slightly out of synch with the audio?
As a total beginner it makes discerning exactly what you are doing a little challenging. Also I would have loved to see both the Hembro and the Macho and beenable to see exactly what you are doing with your hands.
Good vid otherwise though gives me something to try and play/match to :)
Garygok 4 years ago
Nice sound. What kind of bongos are those?
schowell215 4 years ago
Gon Bops "Tumbao" series. Thanks for the comment
JazzyJez 4 years ago
Hey, JazzyJez--
what's there to get annoyed about? Ya gotta start somewhere, bro'!. The roll at the end could be a bit tighter, but you'll get tighter with practice...the martillo sounds clean and you're in sync with the piano...
Lookin' forward to hearin' more from you...and Matt (mdubuque) and Gary (bongorilao) are great guys to watch and learn from!
Another of your bongo brothers,
Charlie (bongomanfromdalou)
bongomanfromdalou 4 years ago
Madre!!!Me he comprado hace poco unos bongos y estoy practicando..pero no suena también como en el video!!!:P.Buen ritmo.
Txeroki87 4 years ago
Cha cha chá was developed by composers who had played danzón and at first it was mainly played by charanga orchestras. There are parts in danzón songs that are called "cha cha chá" parts by some. The second video I pointed it is entitled "Viva el Cha Cha Cha Aragon", no clave again.
salseroberlinense 4 years ago
Just perform a google search and you will see that everyone agrees El Bodeguero is a typical cha cha chá. The singers also use the term. The rhythm section does not play as it would in a son - they don't use clave, for example. La Engañadora is considered by many as the first cha cha chá, and Orquesta Aragón as a very influential group in the development of the musical style.
salseroberlinense 4 years ago
It would be nice if we could see the whole palms (hands) and not just part of it.
ydembsky 4 years ago
yeah, that would be nice but I don't have tripod in order to place the camera. once i get one i will make another video if possible.
JazzyJez 4 years ago
Hey real nice work Jazzy, real nice!
Matt
mdubuque 4 years ago
Cha-Cha-Cha no lleva el bongo !
markbra 4 years ago
Nice sounding martillo. Those Gon Bops bongos?
d0minirican 4 years ago
Yeah, they sure are. How did you know? They have a sweet sound,quality and have the price as some LPs. These are the Gon Bops Tumbao Series. Thanks for the comment.
JazzyJez 4 years ago
Jazzy, how did I miss this one?! Excellent variation in tones. I like your one-finger stroke followed by a three-finger stroke. You should do this video again with a little wider camera shot to show the martillo on the hembra side. This was an excellent presentation and teaching tool! Great work me brada! I could join in with a conga drum to go along with your martillo - some low double strokes. hehe
bongorilao 4 years ago
nice
DjShilly18 4 years ago
Hey JazzyJez, great to hear from you and see you getting ever-more into the bongos. Your touch and timing seems perfect, which doesn't surprise me at all since you're a dancer, and the music is dancing inside of you already - the bongos are just a great way to let it come out.
Keep it up my friend; you've got a great inner feel for bongos!
Bob
alabubba 4 years ago
Is that you, Jaz??? woow, awesome!
PiaoliangJieJie 4 years ago
Yes, that's me. Thank your for your comment.
JazzyJez 4 years ago
Cha-Cha- Cha no lleva el bongo !
markbra 4 years ago
No se cuales Chachachas escuchas pero algunas tienen el bongo.
JazzyJez 4 years ago
Normalmente el bongó no se usa en cha cha chá y las claves tampoco. El cha cha chá no lleva clave. Sin embargo, si te gusta así, ¿por qué no?
Usually neither bongos nor claves are used in Cha cha chá, which has no clave. However, if you like it that way, why not?
salseroberlinense 4 years ago
I really don't know where some people are getting this. some chachacha's have clave and bongo pattern in them. I will be glad to give you a list of songs that do. for example Sofrito by Mongo Santamaria has clave with Bongo playin
JazzyJez 4 years ago
You can read that here,
zen30989 dot zen dot co dot uk/chap4 dot htm
for example. I do not know the song you mentioned but maybe Mongo just thought it would be nice to experiment? He played at the time when they started with latin jazz, so they mixed a lot...
salseroberlinense 4 years ago
If you want to get technical an what instruments shouldn't be played. then music wouldn't be where it is, all aspects of music fuse several instruments. for example there is this band called Salsa Celtica that fuses scottish instruments such as bagpipes in their music. Not having clave or bongo in chachachas is like not having the congas in salsa. Salsa or latin jazz bands play chachacha, salsa & jazz. It all correlates with the music.
JazzyJez 4 years ago
You are right that music should be open, and that's what I had indicated already by writing that you should do as you like and that maybe they experimented because it was the beginning of latin jazz. However, no clave or bongo in cha cha chá is not at all the same as no congas in salsa because salsa is usually played with congas, while cha cha chá is usually played without claves and bongó.
salseroberlinense 4 years ago
I wonder what kind of song you consider chachacha. Maybe you are comparing this comment to songs like Oye Como Va. We can sit here and discuss this back and forth but you already made up your mind. thanks for your comments though
JazzyJez 4 years ago
Don't know why you get angry. I gave you an example of a page where what I said is stated as well. Here are 2 youtube videos of what I would say is typical cha cha chá:
watch?v=MVdUw1rF784
watch?v=6M5AygPuR9M (El Bodeguero)
Orquesta Aragón with characteristic güiro, flutes and violins. No bongó, no clave. La Engañadora is another example of a typical song. Unfortunately, I cannot find a good video here. But I can send it to you if you like. Could you send me the song you meant?
salseroberlinense 4 years ago
excelente sonido brotherrrrrr
tinnnno 4 years ago
Gracias por tu comentario! Muchisimas!
JazzyJez 4 years ago