Legalism Debunked - Knowheretorun1984

[LordSnow69]

What about "Tough Love" for your fellow man? Is it love or hate to point out sin / deceit / lies / in someones life?

This is a heavy message Chris. I talk to people all the time about the bad things they are into, and I'm called a hater. Is it hate or love that motivates us to witness to others?

[calebSLO]

Why are people so "surprised" at all the dislikes? Look at the age that we live in and know this is the view of the world today. If this was up 60 years ago it wouldn't have ANY dislikes. Shows you how FAST things can change and how evil the world is today. My salvation didn't happen the same day either. It was a slow process 2 but it worked out exactly how the lord wanted it to be. I get convicted by the holy spirit about things that I wouldn't even consider being sin when I first got saved. E

[Ipostle]

@calebSLO The Holy Spirit Inspired Word,yes.If it wasn't for the Bible -man wouldn't even know what God wanted him to be.We wouldn't even know there was a Holy Spirit today if we didn't read it in the Bible.Let's be thankful He left us a record of Himself.

[TracesofGrace]

Wow! How can this have so many dislikes?? :/

[calebSLO]

Thank you for sharing this!!!

[kaotikgrace]

I agree with this video for the most part. However, how can Chris say that Jesus' law is different than the 10 commandments (which were given directly from God)? Jesus is talking about the same thing as the 10 commandments. Jesus gave two commands... love the Lord your God with all your heart and love your neighbor as yourself. The first 4 commandments tell us HOW to love God and the last 6 tell us HOW to love our neighbors. However, no one is saved by keeping any law. 

[James1985Smith]

why so many dislikes? the devil is a lier.

[SlaveOfCrist]

@James1985Smith That's what I'm saying too bro. Why so many dislikes? This is crazy, the people that disliked this obviously either don't study their bibles or hate what it says.

[Ipostle]

@12:00 Spirit was and is God. Spirit "dwelling" was only Christ.If THE Holy Spirit is in you,I must bow down and worship you. If not why not? The Bible does not contradict its self.The Holy Spirit was the same in the Old Test.as in the New. This power to perform miracles in ancient times was to confirm to man that the prophet was sent by God.This same 'POWER' was sent to confirm the message we find in our New Testament (God's new covenant).If I had the power of the Holy Spirit I'd be a prophet.

[Ipostle]

@10:30 Nowhere in the Bible is man's body refered to as a temple.The marriage body is refered to in 1 Cor. & the dwelling place in the Old Test.was the Tent of Meeting/Temple so is in a figure used to refer to God one day walking again amongst his people.A literal walking inside of the person was never meant,neither was a literal' human' body."Body" is used fig. in several ways."Spirit" is used this way too. Calvinists should reread their Bible.This time take off the baptist blinders.

[Inverita1]

@Ipostle You said 1 Corinthians 3:16 is for the future? "Don't you know that you yourselves are God's temple and that God's Spirit lives in you?" Then why is talking as though it is a present nature that had already begun? The price was paid..

"The Spirit of Truth... abides with you and will be in you."John 14:15-16

There is no need to wait... God has justified us and has given us a new heart. The new covenant has begun! God Bless

[Ipostle]

@Inverita1 When an Old Testament prophesy is quoted by an Apostle it's usually come to pass.Why else would he quote it? God's disposition lives in the Christian but the Holy Spirit living in anyone today is a widespead error. The Holy Spirit is Deity. Just because our Bibles use capital letters doesn't always make it right. Translators have worked their error on most versions.The 1611 KJV contains no capitals for Spirit in Romans 8. They understood Paul was speaking of a disposition.

[Inverita1]

@Ipostle I don't think you are reading the verses.. If the Bible says, "God's Spirit lives in you" it means God's spirit lives in you. If you want to not accept this verse how about the following which all make a similar claim.. John 14:17 Romans 8:9 Romans 8:14 1 Thessalonians 4:8 1 John 4:13 1 John 4:15 Or all the verses from Acts Acts 1:5 Acts 1:8 Acts 2:4 Acts 4:31 Acts 6:3 Acts 7:55 Acts 8:17 ...and so on. Clearly, that is not mearly disposition but God's HOLY SPIRIT.

[Ipostle]

@Inverita1 Jesus was talking to the Apostles in John.How else were they going to spread the Gospel? He would guide them into all truth.How else were they going to write Scripture? This discussion is pointless if you believe the Holy Spirit literally lives inside you. You don't even need to read a Bible.

[Inverita1]

@Ipostle You say that the Holy Spirit was only for the Apostles? I disagree, in Acts the disciples (more than just the apostles)  were given the Holy spirit. Througout acts people are endowed with the Holy Spirit. We are called to go and make disciples of all nations (the great commission). That means that every one any where can be a disciple. As for not needing the Bible. I dont think you understand what the Spirit is. It doesn't make us God... To be continued...

[Inverita1]

@Ipostle Part 2: Just as the disciples were not God (with the indwelling of the Holy Spirit). They still sinned and had problems and even debated about certain issues. The Holy Spirit gives gifts as well as the ability to lead us to do what God wants..

This is what scriptire says..

Romans 8:9 You, however, are controlled not by the sinful nature but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ.

[Inverita1]

@Ipostle Jesus said He would send usa teacher and comforter who would dwell with us. John 16:7 "Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send Him unto you". Jesus didnt leave us alone. Acts teaches that the Holy Spirit is given to us and we are baptized in His divine nature and given gifts. He is present with us continually. He guides and strengthens us internaly, as God promised

[Ipostle]

What you call legalism is what God calls obeying His will.Calvinists should be ashamed for starting this false teaching.Now you all can feel good about never following God's Word.Now you don't have to judge or be judged.That's all "legalism". Shame on the Calvinists.They read to you the account of the men in the Bible who asked what to do to be saved,and then tell you all you must do is "believe".Every account of salvation from sin in the Bible required DOING something on man's part."Legalism"

[vtjforce]

Chris: Thanks for you time in putting this one together...really good stuff! God Bless!

[Jehstfan]

Great post Chris. Thank you.

[IdaSputum]

Around 30mins you say 'getting an old person over the road doesnt make a difference' but i think it does. - As you say at the end in James 2 - what does it profit to talk the talk to a needy person, yet NOT give the person the needed items to warm and fill the needy person? Faith WITHOUT works is dead. Faith WITH works is alive.

THIS is a seriously useful vid - THANK YOU. I listen to the devil telling me God is angry with you, dont bother with Him. So I will run to God now.

[rifleman0007]

are these videos attacked by vote bot..?

[McFrew]

Amen!!!! Thank you for your post. Keep fighting the good fight

[LthrnZack]

Thanks for the good news Chris. Praise to Christ for your tender heart.

[Kyouryuu5000]

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. (Ephesians 2:8-9).

[RobbieRob26]

227 Dislikes why???? This is a good video!!!

[D0p3Smuggl3r]

@RobbieRob26 Trolls, gangstalkers, misguided media-heads that believe religion is the cause of all the world's problems, etc.

I was one of them not all that long ago, and if there is hope for a blasphemous heretic like me, there's hope for anybody, lol.

[RobbieRob26]

@D0p3Smuggl3r Amen Brother

[UncleBadTouch100]

i know why. most denominations and CULTS disagree with not following Mosaic laws and legalism for maintaining your salvation and hoping you make it in.

[ChrisoneillART]

Again why so many dislikes? I don't get it.

Another good one Chris, keep up the great work :D

[FlyingAxblade]

Hey, Pastor White: your thoughts on the Didache? was it really a primer to be memorized? your beliefs on the book of ENOCH? how about debunking ELEnin? what music would you recommend?--I'd recommend Kemper Crabb, Petra (Never Say Die) & if you got a friend that can make video's I'd love to see a SERMON JAM with RUSS DIZDAR mixed with DEMONHUNTER

[ChildofYeshua777]

Chris, do you think the Book of James rebukes Paul?

[FlyingAxblade]

@ChildofYeshua777 james 5:19---my research has shown that by reading Proverbs (7 chapters or so) before reading any Paul is helpful, and reading a few Psalms (&/or a few chapters of Job) before reading any of the books after Hebrews helps keep the thought.

[jls0037cslewis1]

Thank you dear brother. I needed this for comfort. Indeed, he puts his fear in our hearts that we will not depart from him. I did not know that attaches to Hebrews and the church. Bless you in my prayers.

[TechArcturian]

Why did people 'dislike' this! It's really positive. Thumbs UP!!!

[FaceLikeTheSun]

@TechArcturian I'm convinced there is like a youtube gang that goes around and "dislikes" any videos made by Chris...

[artensoll]

@FaceLikeTheSun

I was thinking the same thing

[heartrocketblast]

Thank you. Solid teaching. You've totally made sense of the difference between the relationship between the people and the Spirit in the old and new covenant.

"The Holy Spirit’s influence and power were at work before Pentecost, but He was not here. Once our Lord was glorified in His ascension, the Holy Spirit came into the world, and He has been here ever since." -Oswald Chambers

[utwpublishing]

Yahshuah is also our dwelling place our Tabernacle...If you have the Seal, or the Laws of God in the frontlets of your eyes, you will not have the Mark of the beast in these last days...

Amen to this excellent video, which speaketh a truth. For those who have an ear to hear, and eyes to see, let them be in the Good Graces of God through our Lord Christ Yahshua haMashiach, by His Ruach ha Kodesh...The Holy Spirit . ...rev

[YaHuWeHsoldier]

NONE. MattitYaHu 5.17 znd 5.18 tell you this clearly. The prophets spoke of the Great Day of Reconciliations (Yowm Kippurym). Nothing was "nailed to the cross" ESPECIALLY Shabbat. Shabbat is Eternal - OlamOlam, The Shabbat is forever because it is those things like our salvation (y'shua) that YHWH (GOD) has done for us so we can be with Him - He Kneels (Barak) down to us so we can Stand (Quwm) with Him!

Quwm by YaH! Stand with YHWH!

[DoKtaTre]

Thank you

[thebuhl1126]

Can you answer a question for me, which commandments are no more?, which commandments were nailed to the cross?, besides for the sabbath.

[theleakedproject]

Brilliant video. Thanks.

[123SGTTOPDAWG345]

47:25-47:44

That spoke out to me like a laser to the face. I am so guilty of this that is embarrassing. I needed to hear that because it points out the root of my fear to repent when I slip sometimes...the devil.

This should be required watching from weak christians (like me) everywhere. Chris you've been clearing up my stumbling blocks one at a time.

God Bless You

[Yrhp8268]

@123SGTTOPDAWG345 I agree. I love these videos. I am newly "born again" and I've been learning a wealth of information from Chris' videos. I feel like I'm learning much more from his videos than I ever did years ago when I used to attend church. No offense to church-goers, but it's true.

[mfraser123]

Wow, did I ever need to hear that. Great message Chris. Thanks for taking the time to put this together. :)

Love ya bro

Mike

[whoisisaac]

Thanks, bro

[Leiflton]

"But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God."

i think if we are in christ, then we are fulfilling the law. as it says "abide in me" and you already pointed out "i came not to destroy, but to fulfill."

and it says

"love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law."

For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. two great commands etc

[finxoner]

thank you so much for making this video, i have a clearer idea of what it is to be saved in Christ

[vudumojo]

Chris, through Paul's hand God said we are Saved by Grace through Faith and not of Works of the LAW and yet Paul also wrote,

"Do we then make void the LAW through FAITH? God forbid: yea, we establish the law."

See the word here is LAW not COMMANDMENT.

SALVATION is NOT of the law or works of; it is the gift of God. PERIOD / FINAL.!

We have no hand in it.

The *REASON* we ESTABLISH God's law is not for our own justification, but because we love him, trust his word AND KNOW HE LOVES US.

[Ramohog]

@vudumojo That's it brother! Chris nailed salvation to enter in and to be sealed which is vital, but avoided Matthew 5:19. The question is.... Do you want to be called least in the Kingdom?

[djbneozen]

@Ramohog Ding ding ding. You must be SDA. Nice catch. Furthermore, as far as the ceremonial argument goes, I didn't notice any other commandments being "ceremonial".

[Ramohog]

@djbneozen No.... I'm not SDA. E.G. White was a false prophet which makes SDA a satanic cult. She was buried under a masonic obelisk. You can't just ignore what Jesus said in Matthew 5:19.... He was not lying. It just requires understanding!

[SilentPrayingmanTis]

Where does is say In Romans ANYWHERE that you need to repent in order to be saved? answere ... no where. Becarefull waht you teach Chris. Buy faith alone are you justified and sanctified. Are we to sin? God forbid! you know thats not the issue im getting at Chris. waht is the Gospel? is repenting to be saved in the gospel that Paul teaches? no. Is repenting part of being a Christian, YES

[KeithTruth]

@SilentPrayingmanTis In Rom. Paul teaches that everyone is born not seeking God, not fearing God (Rom. 3:11, 18), not pleasing God or being willing to submit to his commands (Rom. 8:7-8). It's presupposed in Rom. that those who shift into faith in Jesus' crucifixion have had a radical change of heart and mind (repentance). If you can't see repentance there then I don't know what to tell you. Repentant faith: Acts 11:18 "Then to the Gentiles also God has granted repentance that leads to life."

[SilentPrayingmanTis]

@KeithTruth I dont see it there becouse it isnt there, peace.

[KeithTruth]

@SilentPrayingmanTis Well only God can grant people eyes to see. May you be saved.

[SilentPrayingmanTis]

@KeithTruth I am saved, may you have freedom from religion and what men say through Christ.

[Leiflton]

@SilentPrayingmanTis no, Jesus himself said, "Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish." physically, and spiritually.

"Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. "

"Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, FOR TO GIVE REPENTANCE to Israel, and forgiveness of sins."

[Leiflton]

@Leiflton "repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;"

"When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life."

and it can be lost:

"For it is impossible..If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame."

[Leiflton]

@Leiflton "For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears."

[SilentPrayingmanTis]

@Leiflton ok two very simple questions, Was Jesus crustifies yet? did he pay for anyones sins yet? and 2)who was he talking to as he was fullinging the law, the only person who could do this btw. yes! he was talking to the Hebrew people. Back to the first question, After Jesus died for mans sins The message of Grace was givin to Paul to give to the gentiles! faith,.. through grace, and not of your selves(works) lest any man should bost. repentance is not part of being saved through grace

[Leiflton]

@SilentPrayingmanTis those 7 passages address everyone. yes, we are saved by grace through faith. but you cannot have faith without repentance. that is why it says God "now COMMANDETH ALL MEN EVERYWHERE to repent: Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead."

[SilentPrayingmanTis]

@Leiflton so if you except Christs payment but if you forget to repent that one last time before the judgement?waht does that mean? that means you are under a religion buy man like adam and eve covering them selves w/ fig leaves. You are save buy faith period. end of sentance. after you Are saved you will want to repent of corse and it is part of being a christian in sinfull body. But it has nothing to do w/ Christs work on the cross. he did it all.God bless

[megatruther]

amazing

[valeforj]

I agree. Being saved makes a change. And changes with your relationship with God, also your relationship with sin. You'll know when you sin, and the Spirit will let you know through conviction. And the Lord will chasten his children. If you sin and don't receive chastisement then you would be a bastard.

[plcrank]

This is really a great video. Thank you brother!

[wildcats8530]

Derek Prince teaches similar to this. Derek Prince is by far one of the best preachers on legalism.

[tetrahydroscope]

God's mercy is God's justice.

[smoothstringsron]

Thank you Chris.

[Psuedoreality]

Very good video Chris, but you forgot to give us a definition of love.

[FlyingAxblade]

Seriously, I would rap with you any moment of any day.  I know that the Glory of God is foremost in your mind/soul. Thanks! I use your preachings as tracts. please don't sue me!

[BeranM]

Forgot to mention that your ministry has a pre-millenial belief. That is not supported by Scripture in anyway, whatsoever. It angers me when I see individuals who think they know what they are doing lead people down the wrong path. You will pay someday if you do not learn the error of your ways.

[FlyingAxblade]

@BeranM why not just go to his website to leave your hate mail? EHHHHHH? I Like that you have 1 friend after 5 years on YouTub. Your choice? Please visit me, and we will hash out your evil-speaking ways starting in 1 Peter 3:8. you game little bro?

[rianpop]

@BeranM Romans 14:5 One person regards one day above another, another regards everyday alike. Each person must be fully convinced in his own mind. (6) He who observes the day, observes it for the Lord, he who eats, does so for the Lord... Bless you this day

[BeranM]

I have a question. Why do you name a ministry after yourself? It seems like after you and Tsarion had your little homo, I'm right, he's wrong spat that your ego has enlarged. Do you worship on Sunday? If you do then you really shouldn't be a minister because you don't know much about Scripture.

[smoothstringsron]

@BeranM Why are you talking like this? Chris is quoting directly from the bible. Can you not see that he is doing this to help other people? You need to look in your heart and see where this is coming from. You need Jesus!

[BeranM]

@smoothstringsron Where does it say that Christ will reign for 1000 years on Earth? I love it when self-proclaimed "Christians" think they know everything. Makes me laugh.

[valeforj]

@BeranM Revelation Chapter 20 talks about the 1000 year reign in which those who didn't take the mark of the beast and were beheaded for Jesus get resurrected and reign for the first thousand. It also talks about the second resurrection and the thousand years after that. Then comes Satan getting let loose from his prison and brings war.

[BeranM]

@thecosmichippo I never said I believe in it wholeheartedly. I understand it because all I do is study biblical prophecy and esoteric knowledge. I don't have an attitude, I just get tired of seeing people like Chris White lead people astray. He is just one of the thousands of priests, pastors, and ministers that do not understand prophecy but assumes that they do. Would you be upset if someone said you murdered a relative even though you didn't? It is a lie. You think I am mad? Imagine God now

[altops]

many today now say that christ has come in the flesh but their doctrine contradicts them.

[stckybandits]

Thank you. I am glad God has lead me towards your channel !

[InfiniteMischief]

I always am blessed by your presentations Chris. Can I get your thoughts on 'obedience as a symptom' of love for Christ?  It seems natural to keep all the commandments and I'll

admit that the 4th commandment may be misused as a filter for salvation but as I grow, my life aligns and I deepen in my love relationship I experience a 'rest' on the day our creator created specifically for us before He even created us. 'what wondrous love is this?'..peace and blessings man :)

[FlyingAxblade]

@InfiniteMischief no offense MobiusHoodlum, yet for some reason Sarax below, can't be rated or replied, so I'm borrowing your box. Miss Sara: keep your trolling to yourself. Thanks! or STAY POSITIVE! Look for the Holy Spirit working around you, and you just might be surprised!  Do not equate Christianity with the Churchians. Be Well! Jesus loves you as well, even died for the world, including you, but not you exclusively. Dig it.

[saraxaos11]

"if there is a hell, i'll see you there" Trent Reznor. you christians sure do know how to hate and create rifts.

[sinthalis]

@saraxaos11 You're the one posting on a video that is blatantly obvious as to it's content. You want to be left alone to your beliefs, then start doing it yourself.

[SilentPrayingmanTis]

@saraxaos11 If Trent is a Christian why would he want to go to hell? If you are a Christian then you are already forgive your sins. the only people creating hate rits are those cought up in legalism and false religion. the bible is very clear that it is agaisnt all forms of mans religion. meaning : Chirst died finished the law he did everything o n the cross, becouse man could not nor can not keep the law completly. except Christ paid for your sins in full an and you will live in heaven.peace