the original kuleshov expiriment.mov

[bwayguy17]

I have a feeling that i'll be referencing this a lot while writing my film theory paper on montage. This is going to be fun!

[Webvideoacademy]

@bwayguy17 Tjek out, 'the cutting edge', a film on editing and filmtheory. Good luck with your paper.

Wiebe

[bwayguy17]

@Webvideoacademy wow! thanks!!!

[Trixilver]

this guy is the greatest actor that ever lived

[justduckygal]

Pretty sure that was Mata Hari?

[Webvideoacademy]

@justduckygal True, I tried to remake the original experiment, by using the same elements kuleshov used. Since Mata Hari was famous at the time the experiment was made I thought it would be appropriate to use an image of her.

[vielgluck09]

I thought this had been lost...huh...

[nc4ar]

@vielgluck09 same

[Webvideoacademy]

@vielgluck09 It is not the original, but made with the original actor.

[E91M]

looks like hes taking a dump

[mrzero794]

great shot of Mozzhukin, but obviously a bad fake of the other shots.

[wiebe1602]

The heavy makeup is because of the type of film that was used in the early days of film. Early filmmakers used orthochromatic film stock, which had a limited color-range sensitivity. It reacted to red pigmentation, darkening white skin and nullifying solid reds. To counter the effect, Caucasian actors wore heavy pink greasepaint (Stein's #2) as well as black eyeliner and dark red lipstick (which, if applied too lightly, appeared white on screen), but these masklike cosmetics smeared as actors s

[kalz1991]

Its a guy dickheads

[kiqiriki]

Una vez que sabes la explicación ya no te afecta el montaje, por lo menos refiriéndote a este caso concreto.

[badkluster]

It doesn't work if you already know the effect.

[pieceofpeper]

@badkluster Of course.It relies on unknowingness of audience about this effect.In my opinion face expressions are very ambivelent,so no one can actually say what kind of emotional reactions they represent unless it is immediate.Apart from this:does anyone noticed that an actor has excessive water eye-effect,so he portrays a sadness/almost grief which is very unlikely a normaln reaction to soup or women???

[pieceofpeper]

@badkluster Of course.It relies on unknowingness of audience about this effect.In my opinion face expressions are very ambivelent,so no one can actually say what kind of emotional reactions they represent unless it is immediate.Apart from this:does anyone noticed that an actor has excessive water eye-effect,so he portrays a sadness/almost grief which is very unlikely a normal reaction to soup or women???

[maharaj16]

his name is ivan mozzhukhin....

[I3abuadze]

Actually, she is not she, I think it's right to say HE.

[badnewswade]

@I3abuadze I love the way they used to use heavy makeup in olden-times films. Was that just to enhance people's features, or some other reason?

[joana2604]

woah, it works.

[charliegirl6]

she looks angry at the soup

[CalvinWithoutHobbes1]

@charliegirl6 its the same shot of the actor every time, to show that manipulative editing can create an intellectual and emotional response from the audience.

[Suppanutt]

@charliegirl6 lol, this is the male actor Ivan Mozzhukhin. I think he just has on a lot of make-up and looks a lot like his mother.

[xNKFootballx]

...yea this video sucked....and that guy looks like a creeper.

[Islwynpaul]

@xNKFootballx Oh you're Canadian. Nuff said.

[jesseshulman]

@Islwynpaul Don't hate on Canada. Nuff said.

And NKFootball, get a life.

[LamannaLucia]

2.- (continuación)...en su dimensión autoral al lado de guión y dirección. No siempre vienen las pautas de la dirección sino del montajista, quien además tiene la posibilidad objetiva de ver la toma en sí misma sin todo su pasado de cómo o por qué fue pensada y las implicaciones técnicas y humanas que tuvo durante el rodaje.

[LamannaLucia]

1.- Es cierto, hay gesto, actuación; pero el punto esencial del Fx Kuleshov es demostrar las múltiples posibilidades combinatorias del montaje y concientizar que las tomas (LO RODADO) poseen valores relativos de significación, las cuales al ser transformadas en planos (PLANO DE MONTAJE) adquirirán un valor absoluto. Lo importante no es "lo que es" sino "lo que parece ser". Esta transformación es una acto baraka (aliento, soplo de vida) lo que define al montaje en su dimensión autoral...(sigue)

[xNKFootballx]

@LamannaLucia English?

[Islwynpaul]

Not only is the Kuleshov effect persuasive in all 3 shots I feel it is the expression on the actors face that is also effective. His eyes are very expressive and his mouth and throat convey hunger for food and the woman. The eyes are almost tearful so grief for the little girl is conveyed impressively. All praise should go to the actor for his skill and the director for choosing such a talented man. Some other examples of the effect on youtube are good but not as impactful as this original film.

[xNKFootballx]

@Islwynpaul u need to get out more

[Islwynpaul]

@xNKFootballx You'r probably an England soccer supporter. Or you should be anyway, what with not having a brain. Why is England going to suffer floods in the next few days? Because the Irish, Welsh and Scottish are all pissing themselves.