Incredible. If you all are into this, here's a simulation I did with "pitching plane" weather for carrier landings: metacafe.com/watch/8041457/aircraft_carrier_landing_foul_weather/
By the way, the interpretation of "Trick or Treat" was mis-stated in the video. When the aircraft is low on fuel, "Trick or Treat" is phraseology used by the ship's group called Tanker Control. When they transmit "Trick or Treat" over the air to the airborne F-18 tanker pilot, he knows to visually acquire (hawk) the aircraft landing (who is low fuel), and if the pilot doesn't perform his "trick" (land), then he gets a "treat" (fuel). So, it's "Trick" or "Treat".
Been there, done that, have the T-shirt. To answer "computer assisted landing system" question, there are no automatic aids that can handle this. It's not that the computer is not "fast", the problem is that computers can't anticipate or "see" what's ABOUT to happen because there aren't enough sensors compared to the human body in extreme conditions. Computer capability is a developing technology but is still a long way from handling what humans can do.
As an old LSO, I've watched a few movies and videos of pitching deck ops recently, and can remember many times waving aircraft as an LSO in similar sea conditions, and the question keeps popping into my mind - Where is the MOVLAS (Manually Operated Visual Landing Aid System)? It was specifically designed to address situations just like this where the traditional "meatball" can't keep up with the movement of the pitching deck. Why wasn't it used?
@jaybird7324 Apparently trying to hook a steel cable onto the back of an airplane while going 200 Knots (And the carrier is going 30) while the deck is pitching side to side is easy.
The skipper launched in these horrible conditions cause his boys need the experience. The pilots need this. No matter how dangerous it is. Im behind the skipper 100%.
Look, yes, it's difficult, and dangerous, but all this wimpy talk is ridiculous, if you can't handle it, quit, because there are a million guys in the US who'd gladly take your place. If you are a Naval Aviator you are best of breed, so start acting like it and stop complaining about how dangerous it is. What, like you thought it would be easy, all this scaredy-cat syndrome is really alarming, pathetic, and unacceptable. Be a man.
@LanceWinslow5 you're a fucking idiot! im sure you've done many dangerous things in your life and managed to downplay it as it was a piece of cake.. the purpose of the video and the interviews are for the civilians or non aviators to see what its like.. at the end of the day, these pilots are still flying scared or not
@2ft314 First, stop acting like a punk, don't call me a F-idiot. My dad was a squardon CO, flew 250 combat missions in a A-4 in Vietnam, find another pilot whose done that. Further, he had a good friend partially "ram-strike" in 60 foot deck pitch on a rainy night in an A-7 and died on ejection. It's not as hard as they make it out, soon UAVs will be doing it remotely. If you call me a F-idiot again, don't go there. If Navy pilots are scared they don't belong there, I'd excited to at challenge.
wyleehokie The white caps are an indication of wind because the wind blows the top off the swell=white caps. The swell can be 20-30' or more in height and the troughs causes the deck to pitch up and down. As you are in your approach the deck is going up and down that height and rolling from side to side due to location in the waves. The camera does not show depth perception and you can not get a true indication of wave height which hides the amount of pitch the deck will experience.
Someone help me here. I can see how in heavy seas even a 100K ton aircraft carrier will pitch. But these seas look decently calm from what I can see in the video. A few white caps at 0:30 with waves about 5 feet in height, maybe a few at 10 feet. How is that beast pitching that much?
@lowenbrau915we actually use the F/A 18'S!! we can hook up 5 tanks of fuel onto it. i'm a US Navy flight deck aircraft director, ABH3(Aviation Boatswains mate, Handling. 3rd class petty officer)
@ewthmatth It can be too close to the round-down at the back of the ship if they aim for the first two. They aim for the 3 wire and take what they can get! I've seen them hit the round-down and knock off the landing gear on one or both sides. After that, it ain't pretty.
Typical PBS - they want to show moments when our pilots aren't so hot. And all the interviews sound depressing and life on a carrier is such a burden filled with doubt and despair.
@rockinredneck57 I believe you. I don't mean they should make this a NAVY advertisement. But I think that what at first glance may appear to be a realistic view of life on a carrier is not really that. To me it looks like they want to make it look as unimpressive as possible. I don't walk away saying "wow this is hard work and those guys really sacrifice a lot!" It's more like "well, I guess the NAVY sucks." Maybe I'm just in a PBS bashing mood but they do keep showing us how much PBS sucks!
I had the honor of spending 24 hours on the Lincoln a few years ago, as a civilian observer of reserves trying to hold their night time carrier qualifications. It was an amazing experience and something I wish every American could witness. Every one of those 5000 people on this big machine was proud of who they were and doing their incredibly difficult job. My thrill as a small plane pilot was getting a trapped landing and catapult launch in a C-3. Absolutely astounding.
Nothing short of amazing watching this in person. Tho I don't agree with them conducting runs while the deck is pitching like that it still gets 5 stars.
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Watching this series reminds me of how much we DO NOT NEED, and WHAT A TOTAL WASTE our military is. An aircraft carrier is basically a kingdom of the few chosen supported by slaves. The cold war is over. The USA has no business interfering in other nations business. We have negotiated a reduction in nuclear weapons, why not warships? Stupid idiots,
@IamTheBeginning ...and while your sitting in a coffee shop, writing in your notebook about what peace demonstrations your going attend for the year instead of looking for a job while at the same time your other hippie friends join you in a discussion of the pro's and cons of using a bar of soap or letting yourself frement in your natural body odors some Islamic moron parks a car outside...blows everyone up except you....then youll know why....remember 9/11??
Did you ever consider the fact that the REASON why 9/11 happened was BECAUSE we are sticking our noses in places where we don’t belong? You need to study up on US interventions and bad foreign policy – and don’t rely on the network news or newspaper coverage, doucehfuckingbag.
@peachyyy93 Its not hard finding your way back, you have navigational systems that take care of that.. and if they fail.. Pilots are also trained to navigate with maps (which they always carry in a zippered pocket in flight suit).. But.. landing on a carrier even by "Experienced" pilots is difficult. Every single landing is graded, if a pilots score starts to drop then he/she has to start working on the problem. Like they were saying, its a Perishable Skill to land on a carrier.
@peachyyy93 Yes.. Every Single landing.. and if they continue to have "Bad" recoveries.. then yes.. it could seriously affect their career. Standards are high.. they MUST be to ensure the safety of the pilot, plane and the skiddles (deck crew). They could be coming in with undropped/launched ordnance..but they will NOT have much gas at all. In fact they land with little JP5 so they dont incinerate everyone if they crash. They must be refueled if they blow it too many times.
yup, yup, but I think the Captian, in this case, put the crew and the ship in danger by "being beyoned where we need to be." one quote "this is more dangerious than missions in the gulf." That sez it all. Capt goofed.
Wrong. You must TRAIN or you loose it. Every job in the Navy requires EACH person to be on their A - GAME.. 100% of the time. You can only accomplish this to train.. train .. train no matter what. The US Navy is a COMBAT FORCE. I was in Naval Aviation, Anti-Submarine Warfare flying on P3's. I've been on board the Nimitz, just a year after she was commissioned. Whether YOU think the Captain screwed up or not, WHO ARE YOU to say? You arent NAVY!
@ladybird1953 Why dont you STOW IT... WHO ASKED YOU? What do YOU know of the NAVY other than being a BRAT? ZERO.. Who the hell are you to correct me? I am responding to BUTT PLUGS who also clearly do NOT know what they are talking about.. .SO.. .when YOU enlist in the Navy and understand what it takes to be a SAILOR -THEN you can properly address me. Otherwise.. Sit back .. shut up you look like a FOOL.
@danagal79 Dipshit.. you know NOTHING of the NAVY... Boy.. I hate people who THINK they know what they're talking about when all they are doing is blowing air out of their ASSES...
@itsfreeandeasy123456 The planes cost around 30 million and the ships around 10 billion. The target area for landing a plane is about 130 feet, and that is about as big as they can make it. I can assure you that the people who designed the ships and the airplanes are very smart. Moreover, the people employed by the government who bought the airplanes are very smart and the people who fly the airplanes are very smart. The reason they are very smart is because it is very dangerous.
Dave.... buck up??? Have you ever done it?? Neither have I. I was just a person on the flight deck loading bombs when they did come back. Those pilots have the hardest landing area in the world. You try and drive you car 120 mph+ and stop in 60ft with the ground moving under you............
did you read my whole comment?I said of course its scary and takes skill,but what If someone in Afganistan needed critical air support and there was a storm at sea? what should ground troops do? wait for good wheather before they attack? the pilots must at least occasionaly practice landing a pitching deck and I'm not sure they should be complaining about it on a documentery.
send them to the battle is easy ... so the ground troops wont wait so much ... so what u say is pointless ... in pitching deck they usually fail 2 lands or just 1 even if u fail 3 to 4 only 30 minutes or less have passed so ....
@davetileguy Lol... the kid who has never done this is now going to give all of us a lecture. Next time you're about to say something, write it down, recite it in front of a mirror, and, here's the important step, DON'T SAY IT. Learn to STFU next time you have the urge to embarrass yourself.
Atlantisfan119..Kid?? your the kid did you finnish reading my comment?? I didn't say I could do it,my only point is it should be practiced what would they do comming back from a 5 hr flight and it was dark and stormy weather?? refer to their bad weather training and fuckin land! apparently the captin agrees with me,is he an embarrassment?? your the imbassile.
@davetileguy And here we go with another one of your lectures. First of all, the Captain made a bad decision, we all know that now. Second, maybe you should use your barely post pubescent brain before you tell experienced carrier pilots to "fuckin land!". Words cannot describe how stupid you sound right now. I know u think it makes u an internet tough guy when you talk down to experienced Naval Aviators, but it doesn't. See what happens when you run your mouth like this around the squadron room.
From reading this I would say that Atlantisfan119 [that tells one something in itself!] should get an education or a very good dictionary.
I am sure that this sort of exercise can only be good since should there be a need in war, God forbid, it won't be any use asking an enemy to wait for good weather or daylight!
@roberthmercer My name doesn't refer to the city of Atlantis at all. Secondly, where do we draw the line? At risking tens of millions of dollars in taxpayer money and countless lives (some of them pilots who we spend upwards of 1 million dollars training)? Because it has to be drawn somewhere.
So tell us all how stupid the captain is! did they make this vid just for pbs??come on big mouth I recited this in front of a mirror and you still came out looking like an ass!
you win your angrier than I am ,why don't you direct your hate at the captain since he and I agree.question oh great one what seas and swells are acceptable perameters for you?
@davetileguy This is downright embarrassing. For not being a naval aviator, you sure know a lot about Naval Aviation, huh? The captain knew he made a bad choice when night fell and the aircraft had not been recovered. A real naval officer would never say something this immature. Go back to playing World of Warcraft, kid. If I had a dime for every time a wannabe tried to pull something like this...
I'm older and wiser than you "kid"video games are for losers,what part of the documentary did the captain admit he was wrong ? I missed it. I'm on the USS lincoln.
@davetileguy Yea, and I'm Michael Jackson. I may not be in the navy, but I am a pilot, and judging by your comments ("buck up and land!!!!"), I'd bet you're not. And yes, the Captain is really going to admit his mistake on national television. That'd be the day.
How do you conduct pitching deck exercises in good weather? Start and stop and turn left right really fast? lol
When I saw this I was under the impression the storm hit them by surprise, kind of a vicious cycle, more planes that fail to land more planes you have to send up to refuel.
I too wondered why the Captain decided to conduct 'pitching decks' exercises in such extreme conditions, and yes I know all about training for the fight you'll eventually be in...
Maybe it was the presence of the cameras onboard?
No matter, when I saw this on PBS I was amazed at the tension, the fear even, these pilots and deck handlers contained in order to do their jobs. And they did them well.
Having seen this before, I'll never understand why the skipper decided to launch, knowing full well the recovery would be horrendous. I never had any trouble landing at night, IFR or otherwise, but my runway never moved!! These guys have remarkable skill
Ideally, you will then fight as you trained. What happens if they must launch the aircraft for an actual combat mission under adverse weather conditions? In addition to the stress and strain inherent in going into combat, the crew would then have to learn the unique skill set of carrier procedures in adverse conditions. Not the best time to learn.
@CRsBeem I'm pretty sure the reason why you do it is that in a real war, you might have to fight in those conditions, and as such its important to have experience flying and landing in those conditions.
Tell you what, that is some hot shit right there. I am a Brit, and I think Yank naval aviation is fucking unreal! I watched the rest of the documentary but it wasn't really my thing; I just wanted ten hours kicking the tyres and lighting the fires - bit too many feelings and stuff for me.
My best wishes to you. You will have to learn to land in crosswinds though, which is something a navy pilot rarely has to worry about. The move the ship so that AC are always landing into the wind.
@ladybird1953 - WRONG... I told you to STOW IT unless you KNOW IT. I am amazed at your LACK of situational awareness.. NO CROSSWINDS ON A CARRIER????? YES.. they go into the wind .. BUT.. there can be a CROSSWIND across that deck at ANYTIME... varying Degrees, varying velocities.. Girl.. you need to shut up because YOU REALLY are talking out your ASS.
@TheSwabbie If you know what you're talking about, you have nothing to prove. If you have nothing to prove, you wouldn't talk like that. Please try harder not to bring disrespect to service members with your comments. Discipline, dignity, honor and self-control. Remember?
@mdattilo Sorry because I presses y instead of u. And I dont blame the americans! I blame the government who hasnt done anything about the climate att all. I hope that Obama has got some idea of what he is doing if he doesnt want to support a climate change. Because Bush didnt. Bush was an idiot! I am blaming him not the americans.
Navy and Marine pilots are the best. My Navy years were also the best of my life and I am now 71. Pensacola remains very clear in my mind as if yesterday. Proud Navy Officer and now live in Thailand.
Not for the last 30 years or so.. at least, not with catapults and arrestor wires. Mind you, the Harrier bunch reckoned they could operate in worse weather, but they would, wouldn't they? ;-)
Nah, the Navy has a way of making their servivemen think they're getting screwed over when they're not. But for me it's just that the Navy was basically like a factory job. I was a plumber. I would rather have been a soldier.
A touchdown/hook by a 14 is awsome but if you really want to have the juices flowing, sit in back of the CAG E2 making a landing when you don't know the "O'" at the stick!!! This is what the brotherhood of tailhook sailors is all about and very misunderstood by sand crabs.
@theactionwriter2009 really!?! don't remember many E-2 crashes. i would thing the cat shots would be worse, not knowing if the cat was going to F up or if the plane was going to keep flying 80 feet above the water.
still, has to be pretty intimidating, like riding on the back of a motorcycle (or in a Prius)
Jagoff, I spent over 2 years on the roof "you probably dont know what that means" as an aircraft trouble shooter you know the guys in white checkerd float jackets by the a/c on the cats you probably dont know what that term means either 2 westpacs uss shitty kitty uss danger ranger dont tell me I dont know what I am talking about I lived that life, I didnt stay home like some prissycivy and talk shit, there is shit that happens that the navy wont let you civys see,,you havent earned it,
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You have got to be kidding me. ROLLING DECK,,,,,,,, got out in 82 vs 29 cant believe these guys think it a rolling deck ,,the ocean is not even coming over the deck.,,,,, what a bunch jagofff pussy pilots
First off, it says 'Pitching Deck' which is different.
Second, when the deck is moving that much (and also sideslipping due to the diesign and layout) it makes what is inherently dangerous and very difficult all that much more challenging.
Next, the deck is several stories above the ocean in flat seas...the ship would almost never be in seas of that magnitude unless an underground quake happened.
Finally, since you obviously have done nothing like this, keep your stupidity to yourself.
I have so much RESPECT for United States Naval Aviators. They put in so much effort to land a combat aircraft aboard a Us Navy ship in all types of conditions. Whether it be day or night with or without pitching deck they do it tremendously well and are very skilled. God Bless them all.
In one week i'll be at boot camp. I pray i get to ride on a carrier...........i'm never going to lose my fascination with these pilots or the carriers.
mayhemlee, I was on the carrier Eisenhower for 4 years and 7 months and I just left in March. Trust me, do whatever you can to stay off a carrier. If you're in an air rating, you are definitely going to a carrier, but if you are on the surface side, do not ask to go to a carrier in A school. The fascination you have will wear off very fast.
i was in the aussie navy and in 2003 went to the gulf for a few months.. wasn't fun!!! i feel for these boys and girls!!! and god i got see sick in rough seas!!!! and i spent 3 years at sea!!!
i love this documentary!! its on Foxtel for all the other aussies that have it!!
i think anyone who hasnt EVEN BEEN in a war themself, should keep it to themself if theyre gonna talk $H1T. im in the navy, sometimes pride can be a good thing, but many people i see have way too much pride it makes them look dumb
This video is about the brave aviators and crew to serve the United States. It's not about who's country has a bigger penis or whatever... Sheesh arguing like gradeschool playground. kids.
As for the TOPIC of the video... My hats go off to ALL men and women of the armed forces of the "Free" countries that have served throughout the years...
"Free" countries?Depends what is the interpretation of that word for you. Attacking other counties, replacing the govt with tthe ones you prefer , this is your interpretation. Well !! if thats what you like to do, then be ready for the consequences. Seems you have'nt learnt much from the day when you country was brough down on its knees.
You shall have your freedom, and other countries will have their freedom to defend themselves from yout atrocities.
Great reply, lots of other idiots who have no clue.I have over 500 deck landings as a Helo driver and respect the fast movers, takes lot of balls. Thanks for an intelligent comment.
Without the Canadian Navy in WW2 the Allies would have lost the Battle of the Atlantic before the US entered the war. Without the UK as a staging post D-day would never have happened, no matter how many US troops there were. WW2 was replete with moments like that. Worth remembering before any of the Allies start willy waving.
First, I was a helo pilot--and every landing you walk away from is a miracle in one of those things! Secondly, how did this whole text posting get to turning on one of our greatest allies. Since WWI the Canucks have been brilliant to us!
I have found that there is no lack of ignorant people posting comments on YouTube. Anyone that has ever served in the US military and has any concept of history wouldn't be making disparaging comments about our allies. I think it was Rommel that said "Give me Canadian soldiers and American equipment and I can win the war in 6 months" or something to that effect.
Cannot believe the attitude of some of the US posters here. I am ex British Militairy and like to ask Americans who diss their allies to tell me the last war they won on their own that did not have the word "civil" in it. Oh and .. Us Navy founded by John Paul Jones who was Scottish. And the steam catapult, angled flight deck and fresenel lens lading system were all invented by the British.
Incredible. If you all are into this, here's a simulation I did with "pitching plane" weather for carrier landings: metacafe.com/watch/8041457/aircraft_carrier_landing_foul_weather/
marecku9540 3 weeks ago
By the way, the interpretation of "Trick or Treat" was mis-stated in the video. When the aircraft is low on fuel, "Trick or Treat" is phraseology used by the ship's group called Tanker Control. When they transmit "Trick or Treat" over the air to the airborne F-18 tanker pilot, he knows to visually acquire (hawk) the aircraft landing (who is low fuel), and if the pilot doesn't perform his "trick" (land), then he gets a "treat" (fuel). So, it's "Trick" or "Treat".
Govner2 1 month ago
@Govner2 nice, makes sence
williajenn 1 day ago
Been there, done that, have the T-shirt. To answer "computer assisted landing system" question, there are no automatic aids that can handle this. It's not that the computer is not "fast", the problem is that computers can't anticipate or "see" what's ABOUT to happen because there aren't enough sensors compared to the human body in extreme conditions. Computer capability is a developing technology but is still a long way from handling what humans can do.
Govner2 1 month ago
Where is the computer assisted landing system?
normanjtongmd 1 month ago
something a computer still can't do......
01sircharles 2 months ago
Major props to these guys. That's like trying to thread a needle while hanging out of the car and the needle is in your buddies hand.
thespacepope88 2 months ago
This looks soooo hard. But I you gotta land 'em since F/A 18s don't float.
Lunawhynot 3 months ago
As an old LSO, I've watched a few movies and videos of pitching deck ops recently, and can remember many times waving aircraft as an LSO in similar sea conditions, and the question keeps popping into my mind - Where is the MOVLAS (Manually Operated Visual Landing Aid System)? It was specifically designed to address situations just like this where the traditional "meatball" can't keep up with the movement of the pitching deck. Why wasn't it used?
ofbbg1 3 months ago
Balls. Of. Steel.
Fighter Pilots do the impossible.
ltsmum3316 4 months ago
awwww come on its not that tough guys!!!!!!!
jaybird7324 4 months ago
@jaybird7324 Apparently trying to hook a steel cable onto the back of an airplane while going 200 Knots (And the carrier is going 30) while the deck is pitching side to side is easy.
FutureMarine1775USA 4 months ago
I always ignorantly thought taking off and landing on an aircraft carrier was a basic easy thing, god damn was I wrong
mriley858 5 months ago
Amazibf
rzorNvme 6 months ago
Eight people got seasick watching this video.
ahrimanes 7 months ago
The dude adds a little more power at the end causing him to bolter...
XF108FINALE 9 months ago
The skipper launched in these horrible conditions cause his boys need the experience. The pilots need this. No matter how dangerous it is. Im behind the skipper 100%.
lilbrother45 9 months ago
The ensign looks like Tonya Harding. Ha ha ha lol. She is annoying as Hell.
tyltat2020 9 months ago
My biggest regret is having eyes bad enough that prevented me from joining the Navy.
Spudskie 10 months ago
Look, yes, it's difficult, and dangerous, but all this wimpy talk is ridiculous, if you can't handle it, quit, because there are a million guys in the US who'd gladly take your place. If you are a Naval Aviator you are best of breed, so start acting like it and stop complaining about how dangerous it is. What, like you thought it would be easy, all this scaredy-cat syndrome is really alarming, pathetic, and unacceptable. Be a man.
LanceWinslow5 10 months ago
@LanceWinslow5 you're a fucking idiot! im sure you've done many dangerous things in your life and managed to downplay it as it was a piece of cake.. the purpose of the video and the interviews are for the civilians or non aviators to see what its like.. at the end of the day, these pilots are still flying scared or not
2ft314 2 months ago
@2ft314 First, stop acting like a punk, don't call me a F-idiot. My dad was a squardon CO, flew 250 combat missions in a A-4 in Vietnam, find another pilot whose done that. Further, he had a good friend partially "ram-strike" in 60 foot deck pitch on a rainy night in an A-7 and died on ejection. It's not as hard as they make it out, soon UAVs will be doing it remotely. If you call me a F-idiot again, don't go there. If Navy pilots are scared they don't belong there, I'd excited to at challenge.
LanceWinslow5 1 month ago
@LanceWinslow5 Seriously? Pilots who aren't scared, and voice it, get killed.
iamauen 2 weeks ago
the recovery took around 4-5 hours for this.
booshels 11 months ago
the recovery took around 4-5 hours for this
booshels 11 months ago
God bless everyone of these people involved, they're ALL amazing. Thank you service men & women!
Sax4Him 11 months ago
Honestly.... I have NO idea how these guys do this. I've been a pilot since 1999... and, I can say.... NO WAY AND NO THANKS!
Burnsengine 1 year ago
wyleehokie The white caps are an indication of wind because the wind blows the top off the swell=white caps. The swell can be 20-30' or more in height and the troughs causes the deck to pitch up and down. As you are in your approach the deck is going up and down that height and rolling from side to side due to location in the waves. The camera does not show depth perception and you can not get a true indication of wave height which hides the amount of pitch the deck will experience.
circle8 1 year ago
Someone help me here. I can see how in heavy seas even a 100K ton aircraft carrier will pitch. But these seas look decently calm from what I can see in the video. A few white caps at 0:30 with waves about 5 feet in height, maybe a few at 10 feet. How is that beast pitching that much?
wyleehokie 1 year ago
The North Atlantic waves are much worse in a storm. Also typhoons in the pacific are awsome!
hard landings are the norm, and you FEEL it,let me tell you!
usmc7242 1 year ago
those guys are the BALLS
uppanthers 1 year ago
Newer carrier guys, what kind of tanker are they using now? We had the old A6 tanker that held about 6,000 lbs of fuel, but that was a while back.
rockinredneck57 1 year ago
@rockinredneck57 They still use A-6 tankers. Or Air Force KC-135's or KC-10's.
lowenbrau915 1 year ago
@lowenbrau915we actually use the F/A 18'S!! we can hook up 5 tanks of fuel onto it. i'm a US Navy flight deck aircraft director, ABH3(Aviation Boatswains mate, Handling. 3rd class petty officer)
naamanb 1 year ago
@rockinredneck57 hello, we actually use the F/A 18'S!! we can hook up 5 tanks of fuel onto it.
naamanb 1 year ago
U.S. Navy Pilots!....Best Aviators IN THE WORLD!!!!!!
red152mm 1 year ago
Why do they aim for the third wire? Is it too dangerous to go for the first two?
ewthmatth 1 year ago
@ewthmatth It can be too close to the round-down at the back of the ship if they aim for the first two. They aim for the 3 wire and take what they can get! I've seen them hit the round-down and knock off the landing gear on one or both sides. After that, it ain't pretty.
rockinredneck57 1 year ago
YEAH!!!!!! BOMB THOSE INNOCENT IRAQI CIVILIANS!!!! WOOOOOOOO!!!
Chaodragon07 1 year ago
Typical PBS - they want to show moments when our pilots aren't so hot. And all the interviews sound depressing and life on a carrier is such a burden filled with doubt and despair.
Weenchit 1 year ago
@Weenchit It's not all fun and games at sea, take my word for it. You work 12 on, 12 off, 7 days a week. Sometimes more.
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@rockinredneck57 I believe you. I don't mean they should make this a NAVY advertisement. But I think that what at first glance may appear to be a realistic view of life on a carrier is not really that. To me it looks like they want to make it look as unimpressive as possible. I don't walk away saying "wow this is hard work and those guys really sacrifice a lot!" It's more like "well, I guess the NAVY sucks." Maybe I'm just in a PBS bashing mood but they do keep showing us how much PBS sucks!
Weenchit 1 year ago
I had the honor of spending 24 hours on the Lincoln a few years ago, as a civilian observer of reserves trying to hold their night time carrier qualifications. It was an amazing experience and something I wish every American could witness. Every one of those 5000 people on this big machine was proud of who they were and doing their incredibly difficult job. My thrill as a small plane pilot was getting a trapped landing and catapult launch in a C-3. Absolutely astounding.
JohnnyBuff 1 year ago
Nothing short of amazing watching this in person. Tho I don't agree with them conducting runs while the deck is pitching like that it still gets 5 stars.
anything1234e 1 year ago
@clarkdoc,
Here's how I described it to my parents after my first time:
Get in your car. Accelerate to about 35 miles per hour. Run into a tree.
I always thought you would feel yourself touch down, roll into the wire, catch the hook, start slowing down, etc. But it's not like that at all.
You're flying, then all of a sudden it's like you hit a wall.
WarHoover 1 year ago
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Watching this series reminds me of how much we DO NOT NEED, and WHAT A TOTAL WASTE our military is. An aircraft carrier is basically a kingdom of the few chosen supported by slaves. The cold war is over. The USA has no business interfering in other nations business. We have negotiated a reduction in nuclear weapons, why not warships? Stupid idiots,
IamTheBeginning 1 year ago
@IamTheBeginning You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
antred11 1 year ago
@IamTheBeginning ...and while your sitting in a coffee shop, writing in your notebook about what peace demonstrations your going attend for the year instead of looking for a job while at the same time your other hippie friends join you in a discussion of the pro's and cons of using a bar of soap or letting yourself frement in your natural body odors some Islamic moron parks a car outside...blows everyone up except you....then youll know why....remember 9/11??
MrWestcoast45 1 year ago
@MrWestcoast45
Did you ever consider the fact that the REASON why 9/11 happened was BECAUSE we are sticking our noses in places where we don’t belong? You need to study up on US interventions and bad foreign policy – and don’t rely on the network news or newspaper coverage, doucehfuckingbag.
IamTheBeginning 1 year ago
@IamTheBeginning NO. before 9/11 they attacked the USA all over in African the USS Cole and world trade 1993.
those people just hate the USA hell in the 1970's they attacked Germany and Germany didn't do shit.
Dogmeat1950 1 year ago
How does it feel landing on an aircraft carrier
clarkdoc 1 year ago
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WarHoover 1 year ago
thes are so scary. I pray for everyone of outr servicemen & women
Jeannie
Jeanniemariegales 1 year ago
i heard the hardest part was finding your way back to the carrier, not the landing...
...then again, what do i know? lol
peachyyy93 1 year ago
@peachyyy93 Its not hard finding your way back, you have navigational systems that take care of that.. and if they fail.. Pilots are also trained to navigate with maps (which they always carry in a zippered pocket in flight suit).. But.. landing on a carrier even by "Experienced" pilots is difficult. Every single landing is graded, if a pilots score starts to drop then he/she has to start working on the problem. Like they were saying, its a Perishable Skill to land on a carrier.
TheSwabbie 1 year ago
@TheSwabbie pilots get graded on EVERY SINGLE LANDING they make on an aircrafct carrier?!
what happens if they fail? they don't get to be a carrier pilot anymore?
peachyyy93 1 year ago
@peachyyy93 Yes.. Every Single landing.. and if they continue to have "Bad" recoveries.. then yes.. it could seriously affect their career. Standards are high.. they MUST be to ensure the safety of the pilot, plane and the skiddles (deck crew). They could be coming in with undropped/launched ordnance..but they will NOT have much gas at all. In fact they land with little JP5 so they dont incinerate everyone if they crash. They must be refueled if they blow it too many times.
TheSwabbie 1 year ago
@peachyyy93 Google this "navy pilots graded LSO landing" and go to the Wikipedia site, look toward the bottom at "Grading".
TheSwabbie 1 year ago
fascinating - awesome series, best ever done on carrier life rather than the carrier.
cisan 1 year ago
duh, this was a training mission, not War,
danagal79 1 year ago
yup, yup, but I think the Captian, in this case, put the crew and the ship in danger by "being beyoned where we need to be." one quote "this is more dangerious than missions in the gulf." That sez it all. Capt goofed.
danagal79 1 year ago
@danagal79 War doesn't wait for fair weather. Practice like you fight.
hunteran 1 year ago
Wrong. You must TRAIN or you loose it. Every job in the Navy requires EACH person to be on their A - GAME.. 100% of the time. You can only accomplish this to train.. train .. train no matter what. The US Navy is a COMBAT FORCE. I was in Naval Aviation, Anti-Submarine Warfare flying on P3's. I've been on board the Nimitz, just a year after she was commissioned. Whether YOU think the Captain screwed up or not, WHO ARE YOU to say? You arent NAVY!
TheSwabbie 1 year ago
I'm happy my late CPO dad can't see your post. You're not exactly a 'fine' representative of a fine service and tradition.
What an arrogant, self-important jerk you must be.
Oh, and my dad was a submariner, too.
Yangtze River Patrol, and served with Adm. Byrd.
Get some class.
ladybird1953 1 year ago
@ladybird1953 Why dont you STOW IT... WHO ASKED YOU? What do YOU know of the NAVY other than being a BRAT? ZERO.. Who the hell are you to correct me? I am responding to BUTT PLUGS who also clearly do NOT know what they are talking about.. .SO.. .when YOU enlist in the Navy and understand what it takes to be a SAILOR -THEN you can properly address me. Otherwise.. Sit back .. shut up you look like a FOOL.
TheSwabbie 1 year ago
@danagal79 Dipshit.. you know NOTHING of the NAVY... Boy.. I hate people who THINK they know what they're talking about when all they are doing is blowing air out of their ASSES...
TheSwabbie 1 year ago
My late CPO dad would have been less than impressed with your profound sense of your own self-importance and your crude manner.
You're really a ' fine' representative for a proud service tradition.
ladybird1953 1 year ago
Make the runway longer , i would think those planes cost more than ships,
if it is even as dangerous as they make out
itsfreeandeasy123456 2 years ago
@itsfreeandeasy123456 The planes cost around 30 million and the ships around 10 billion. The target area for landing a plane is about 130 feet, and that is about as big as they can make it. I can assure you that the people who designed the ships and the airplanes are very smart. Moreover, the people employed by the government who bought the airplanes are very smart and the people who fly the airplanes are very smart. The reason they are very smart is because it is very dangerous.
magicpowification 1 year ago 9
@magicpowification
Nah the problem is not the size of the landing
area, its the fact that its moving that is the
problem. and when I say moving I mean
the tipping motion from the swells.
Sorry I was not making a serious comment but thanks for your answear.
itsfreeandeasy123456 1 year ago
some of these guys need to buck up,I'm sure it's scary as hell but war won't wait for calm seas.practice,practice,practice.
davetileguy 2 years ago
Dave.... buck up??? Have you ever done it?? Neither have I. I was just a person on the flight deck loading bombs when they did come back. Those pilots have the hardest landing area in the world. You try and drive you car 120 mph+ and stop in 60ft with the ground moving under you............
jwp290 2 years ago
did you read my whole comment?I said of course its scary and takes skill,but what If someone in Afganistan needed critical air support and there was a storm at sea? what should ground troops do? wait for good wheather before they attack? the pilots must at least occasionaly practice landing a pitching deck and I'm not sure they should be complaining about it on a documentery.
davetileguy 2 years ago
send them to the battle is easy ... so the ground troops wont wait so much ... so what u say is pointless ... in pitching deck they usually fail 2 lands or just 1 even if u fail 3 to 4 only 30 minutes or less have passed so ....
leonelp51 2 years ago
I don't think that davetileguy wants to try this-video games much more his speed
fitzpjo 2 years ago
@davetileguy Lol... the kid who has never done this is now going to give all of us a lecture. Next time you're about to say something, write it down, recite it in front of a mirror, and, here's the important step, DON'T SAY IT. Learn to STFU next time you have the urge to embarrass yourself.
Atlantisfan119 2 years ago
Atlantisfan119..Kid?? your the kid did you finnish reading my comment?? I didn't say I could do it,my only point is it should be practiced what would they do comming back from a 5 hr flight and it was dark and stormy weather?? refer to their bad weather training and fuckin land! apparently the captin agrees with me,is he an embarrassment?? your the imbassile.
davetileguy 2 years ago
@davetileguy And here we go with another one of your lectures. First of all, the Captain made a bad decision, we all know that now. Second, maybe you should use your barely post pubescent brain before you tell experienced carrier pilots to "fuckin land!". Words cannot describe how stupid you sound right now. I know u think it makes u an internet tough guy when you talk down to experienced Naval Aviators, but it doesn't. See what happens when you run your mouth like this around the squadron room.
Atlantisfan119 2 years ago
From reading this I would say that Atlantisfan119 [that tells one something in itself!] should get an education or a very good dictionary.
I am sure that this sort of exercise can only be good since should there be a need in war, God forbid, it won't be any use asking an enemy to wait for good weather or daylight!
roberthmercer 1 year ago
@roberthmercer My name doesn't refer to the city of Atlantis at all. Secondly, where do we draw the line? At risking tens of millions of dollars in taxpayer money and countless lives (some of them pilots who we spend upwards of 1 million dollars training)? Because it has to be drawn somewhere.
Atlantisfan119 1 year ago
@Atlantisfan119 they have to practice dont they?
charliemurphyslaw 1 year ago
So tell us all how stupid the captain is! did they make this vid just for pbs??come on big mouth I recited this in front of a mirror and you still came out looking like an ass!
davetileguy 2 years ago
you win your angrier than I am ,why don't you direct your hate at the captain since he and I agree.question oh great one what seas and swells are acceptable perameters for you?
davetileguy 1 year ago
@davetileguy This is downright embarrassing. For not being a naval aviator, you sure know a lot about Naval Aviation, huh? The captain knew he made a bad choice when night fell and the aircraft had not been recovered. A real naval officer would never say something this immature. Go back to playing World of Warcraft, kid. If I had a dime for every time a wannabe tried to pull something like this...
Atlantisfan119 1 year ago
I'm older and wiser than you "kid"video games are for losers,what part of the documentary did the captain admit he was wrong ? I missed it. I'm on the USS lincoln.
I'll pray for you only Jesus can save you!
davetileguy 1 year ago
@davetileguy Yea, and I'm Michael Jackson. I may not be in the navy, but I am a pilot, and judging by your comments ("buck up and land!!!!"), I'd bet you're not. And yes, the Captain is really going to admit his mistake on national television. That'd be the day.
Atlantisfan119 1 year ago
How do you conduct pitching deck exercises in good weather? Start and stop and turn left right really fast? lol
When I saw this I was under the impression the storm hit them by surprise, kind of a vicious cycle, more planes that fail to land more planes you have to send up to refuel.
arf900 2 years ago
I too wondered why the Captain decided to conduct 'pitching decks' exercises in such extreme conditions, and yes I know all about training for the fight you'll eventually be in...
Maybe it was the presence of the cameras onboard?
No matter, when I saw this on PBS I was amazed at the tension, the fear even, these pilots and deck handlers contained in order to do their jobs. And they did them well.
ZenZaBill 2 years ago
Better to practice pitching deck in good visibility and good weather than poor visibility, rain and gusting winds w/o this practice beforehand.
KanzlerM 2 years ago
Seeet!! i want to join the navy !!
clarkdoc 2 years ago
Positively awesome.
RayGettings 2 years ago
who edited this. A seahawk doesn't sound nothing like a jet ranger.
Stubby0266 2 years ago
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Pubgoer 2 years ago
Having seen this before, I'll never understand why the skipper decided to launch, knowing full well the recovery would be horrendous. I never had any trouble landing at night, IFR or otherwise, but my runway never moved!! These guys have remarkable skill
CRsBeem 2 years ago 7
@CRsBeem said "...why the skipper decided to launch, knowing full well the recovery would be horrendous."
Good point. It is my understanding that, within limits, the philosophy throughout the military is to train the way you intend to fight.
regel303 2 years ago 2
@CRsBeem Part 2:
Ideally, you will then fight as you trained. What happens if they must launch the aircraft for an actual combat mission under adverse weather conditions? In addition to the stress and strain inherent in going into combat, the crew would then have to learn the unique skill set of carrier procedures in adverse conditions. Not the best time to learn.
regel303 2 years ago 2
@CRsBeem I'm pretty sure the reason why you do it is that in a real war, you might have to fight in those conditions, and as such its important to have experience flying and landing in those conditions.
JagwarVenCo 11 months ago
wow haha never heard that one before...
someone talk to me about that "Chicken Bone" thing she said at 06:05
b1ueocean 2 years ago
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halukteoman 2 years ago
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halukteoman 2 years ago
Pure professionalism!
TheRoland1960 2 years ago
These guys are consummate professionals!
TheRoland1960 2 years ago
Tell you what, that is some hot shit right there. I am a Brit, and I think Yank naval aviation is fucking unreal! I watched the rest of the documentary but it wasn't really my thing; I just wanted ten hours kicking the tyres and lighting the fires - bit too many feelings and stuff for me.
136hw 2 years ago
1 word; fitness
RickWolf68 2 years ago
I didnt know that they use hornets in tanker roles...learned something new today haha
juki009 2 years ago
I hope i make it as a pilot in the airforce =[
LiveAndLetDie222 2 years ago 9
Have fun flying UAV's.
ryank289 2 years ago
@LiveAndLetDie222 i served as a pilot in the RCAF for 5 years flying p 51d,s(from 1952 to 1956) stay home son it isent worth it.
sampson4008 1 year ago
My best wishes to you. You will have to learn to land in crosswinds though, which is something a navy pilot rarely has to worry about. The move the ship so that AC are always landing into the wind.
ladybird1953 1 year ago
@ladybird1953 - WRONG... I told you to STOW IT unless you KNOW IT. I am amazed at your LACK of situational awareness.. NO CROSSWINDS ON A CARRIER????? YES.. they go into the wind .. BUT.. there can be a CROSSWIND across that deck at ANYTIME... varying Degrees, varying velocities.. Girl.. you need to shut up because YOU REALLY are talking out your ASS.
TheSwabbie 1 year ago
@TheSwabbie If you know what you're talking about, you have nothing to prove. If you have nothing to prove, you wouldn't talk like that. Please try harder not to bring disrespect to service members with your comments. Discipline, dignity, honor and self-control. Remember?
pootypooty 1 year ago
@LiveAndLetDie222 Good Luck! Study hard.. PT Hard and you will make it! And, if you DO get in.. thank you for your Service!
TheSwabbie 1 year ago
@LiveAndLetDie222 911Truth.org
doughauf 1 year ago
@LiveAndLetDie222 fuck the airforce man, go navy!
jrado911 1 year ago
@LiveAndLetDie222 Study hard!
Weenchit 1 year ago
Thanks to the man and women in uniform for doing what they do and letting us enjoy freedom. God bless!
Dirtbikekrlos 2 years ago 19
America is shit. Dont yoy want your kids to think like that aswell. Then why the hell arent you doing anything about the climate!
FsxCaptain 2 years ago
@FsxCaptain 1. Learn how to type 2. Do some research about the reality behind climate change 3. Fuck off
mdattilo 2 years ago
@mdattilo Sorry because I presses y instead of u. And I dont blame the americans! I blame the government who hasnt done anything about the climate att all. I hope that Obama has got some idea of what he is doing if he doesnt want to support a climate change. Because Bush didnt. Bush was an idiot! I am blaming him not the americans.
FsxCaptain 2 years ago
Just enjoy the safety we provide for you, and keep your idiotic opinions to yourself !!!
kirkslastbid 2 years ago
@Dirtbikekrlos People in uniform don't LET you enjoy freedom, freedom is a state of mind.
bwd81977 1 year ago
Mann, when I think of WW2, and how fast, how often they had to get on and off, and just the sheer intensity of it.. mann, that is nuts.
humeur1234567 2 years ago
Navy and Marine pilots are the best. My Navy years were also the best of my life and I am now 71. Pensacola remains very clear in my mind as if yesterday. Proud Navy Officer and now live in Thailand.
donward100 2 years ago 2
No - Brits do too.
NLKennedy 2 years ago
Not for the last 30 years or so.. at least, not with catapults and arrestor wires. Mind you, the Harrier bunch reckoned they could operate in worse weather, but they would, wouldn't they? ;-)
llanbo 2 years ago
im thinking im gonna work on a carrier when im older its cool to see it and its pritty technich
dimidm14 2 years ago
ah yes the Navy, I remember it well.
It made me wish I joined the Marines.
KenMacMillan 2 years ago
Whys that did they screw you over? The military has a nasty habit of fucking their servicemen and women over.
Transam941 2 years ago
Nah, the Navy has a way of making their servivemen think they're getting screwed over when they're not. But for me it's just that the Navy was basically like a factory job. I was a plumber. I would rather have been a soldier.
KenMacMillan 2 years ago
Awe man that's too bad. Hopefully you get a good pension.
Transam941 2 years ago
3:45
stockford 2 years ago
I've got nothing but respect for Naval Aviators. I can only dream that maybe some day I could earn the honor of wearing the Wings of Gold.
JerDam73 2 years ago 2
A touchdown/hook by a 14 is awsome but if you really want to have the juices flowing, sit in back of the CAG E2 making a landing when you don't know the "O'" at the stick!!! This is what the brotherhood of tailhook sailors is all about and very misunderstood by sand crabs.
theactionwriter2009 2 years ago
@theactionwriter2009 really!?! don't remember many E-2 crashes. i would thing the cat shots would be worse, not knowing if the cat was going to F up or if the plane was going to keep flying 80 feet above the water.
still, has to be pretty intimidating, like riding on the back of a motorcycle (or in a Prius)
cloudshe 1 year ago
Must be difficult flying a mission, knowing that the really tough part is the very last part...
crocfme 2 years ago
Jagoff, I spent over 2 years on the roof "you probably dont know what that means" as an aircraft trouble shooter you know the guys in white checkerd float jackets by the a/c on the cats you probably dont know what that term means either 2 westpacs uss shitty kitty uss danger ranger dont tell me I dont know what I am talking about I lived that life, I didnt stay home like some prissycivy and talk shit, there is shit that happens that the navy wont let you civys see,,you havent earned it,
bbycrash 2 years ago 3
yes very brave guys. but why is this guy so worried about tax dollars,their lives are far more important.
mickonala 2 years ago
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You have got to be kidding me. ROLLING DECK,,,,,,,, got out in 82 vs 29 cant believe these guys think it a rolling deck ,,the ocean is not even coming over the deck.,,,,, what a bunch jagofff pussy pilots
bbycrash 2 years ago
Ok, post a video of you doing it.
Sharigan561 2 years ago
First off, it says 'Pitching Deck' which is different.
Second, when the deck is moving that much (and also sideslipping due to the diesign and layout) it makes what is inherently dangerous and very difficult all that much more challenging.
Next, the deck is several stories above the ocean in flat seas...the ship would almost never be in seas of that magnitude unless an underground quake happened.
Finally, since you obviously have done nothing like this, keep your stupidity to yourself.
elijah5674 2 years ago
Let's see a scan of your pilot's certificate.
ACfixer 2 years ago
I have so much RESPECT for United States Naval Aviators. They put in so much effort to land a combat aircraft aboard a Us Navy ship in all types of conditions. Whether it be day or night with or without pitching deck they do it tremendously well and are very skilled. God Bless them all.
burner12 2 years ago 5
In one week i'll be at boot camp. I pray i get to ride on a carrier...........i'm never going to lose my fascination with these pilots or the carriers.
Engineering marvels.
mayhemlee 2 years ago
Good luck Recruit. Keep your mouth shut, take watch seriously, and enjoy it. Boot camp is 3 squares a day, and plenty of sleep. Easy day.
swtjonesy 2 years ago
mayhemlee, I was on the carrier Eisenhower for 4 years and 7 months and I just left in March. Trust me, do whatever you can to stay off a carrier. If you're in an air rating, you are definitely going to a carrier, but if you are on the surface side, do not ask to go to a carrier in A school. The fascination you have will wear off very fast.
andrewdehart 2 years ago
This is tough stuff. You need some real flying skills to land on a pitching deck like this. Respect!
Lehmann108 2 years ago
look at how the ship moves up and down on the waves!!
I mean the ship is so big, you would expect that a ship like that would dine like that!
UsedToFly1 2 years ago
i was in the aussie navy and in 2003 went to the gulf for a few months.. wasn't fun!!! i feel for these boys and girls!!! and god i got see sick in rough seas!!!! and i spent 3 years at sea!!!
i love this documentary!! its on Foxtel for all the other aussies that have it!!
melissabradarvo 2 years ago
Respect to all those pilots !! Looks hard and dangerous
Borat911 2 years ago
Everyone on youtube is a pilot.
nimaside 2 years ago
Wow good video!.
Can't they just make like a giant butterfly net and catch planes coming in and put them down.
UKPETE0077 2 years ago
i think anyone who hasnt EVEN BEEN in a war themself, should keep it to themself if theyre gonna talk $H1T. im in the navy, sometimes pride can be a good thing, but many people i see have way too much pride it makes them look dumb
JeePnoY1 2 years ago 2
This video is about the brave aviators and crew to serve the United States. It's not about who's country has a bigger penis or whatever... Sheesh arguing like gradeschool playground. kids.
As for the TOPIC of the video... My hats go off to ALL men and women of the armed forces of the "Free" countries that have served throughout the years...
Cheers.
Buzz65 2 years ago 8
This has been flagged as spam show
"Free" countries?Depends what is the interpretation of that word for you. Attacking other counties, replacing the govt with tthe ones you prefer , this is your interpretation. Well !! if thats what you like to do, then be ready for the consequences. Seems you have'nt learnt much from the day when you country was brough down on its knees.
You shall have your freedom, and other countries will have their freedom to defend themselves from yout atrocities.
HAts off to those who stood up against you
flyingv747 2 years ago
What the hell does this have to do with the topic?
Take the diaper off your head and clean it out... Maybe then you'll make sense.
Buzz65 2 years ago 2
Great reply, lots of other idiots who have no clue.I have over 500 deck landings as a Helo driver and respect the fast movers, takes lot of balls. Thanks for an intelligent comment.
Helismoke 2 years ago 5
Without the Canadian Navy in WW2 the Allies would have lost the Battle of the Atlantic before the US entered the war. Without the UK as a staging post D-day would never have happened, no matter how many US troops there were. WW2 was replete with moments like that. Worth remembering before any of the Allies start willy waving.
mattinkent 2 years ago
canada... right
oldassfool 2 years ago
lol right?
johnsy88 2 years ago
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soho188 2 years ago
First, I was a helo pilot--and every landing you walk away from is a miracle in one of those things! Secondly, how did this whole text posting get to turning on one of our greatest allies. Since WWI the Canucks have been brilliant to us!
LoftusRoadLad 2 years ago 2
Been there, done that - Naval aviaitor 1965 -1985
billcsears 2 years ago 2
any flyer that can hit ok three on a pitching deck like that is ace in my book
sentient02970 2 years ago
I have found that there is no lack of ignorant people posting comments on YouTube. Anyone that has ever served in the US military and has any concept of history wouldn't be making disparaging comments about our allies. I think it was Rommel that said "Give me Canadian soldiers and American equipment and I can win the war in 6 months" or something to that effect.
wholehawg 2 years ago 4
Cannot believe the attitude of some of the US posters here. I am ex British Militairy and like to ask Americans who diss their allies to tell me the last war they won on their own that did not have the word "civil" in it. Oh and .. Us Navy founded by John Paul Jones who was Scottish. And the steam catapult, angled flight deck and fresenel lens lading system were all invented by the British.
Banavie16 2 years ago
actually the brits did have a hand in the US civil war,,, for the confederates. building ships for them for one.
but come on what do you expect, almost every video has postings from jackasses from all nations.
milezerohypno 2 years ago
true... and the jackasses who comment--dont kno a thing about war, except world of warcraft or command and conquer.
JeePnoY1 2 years ago 5
Anyway I'm not sure the USS Nimitz would be a great help in Northrend but I have to agree with you dude.
Starspangleddude 2 years ago