The fact that Democrats can't get healthcare reform when they are in charge of the government indicates that they are inept in governing. Republicans believe that healthcare reform is not a priority.
National health spending is expected to reach $2.5 trillion in 2009, accounting for 17.6 percent of the gross domestic product (GDP). By 2018, national health care expenditures are expected to reach $4.4 trillion—more than double 2007 spending. (Sitka)
The Republicans and or Obama plan, is just more of the same. Plenty of profit for the greedy pharmaceuticals and the health care companies. We should model a European Plan, is just 10% of their GDP & we'll save 1 Trillion dollars a year.
We need to step up our game and keep the pressure on. For ways in which you can get more involved that won't cost you a dime visit the comment section of my profile. I also have lots of information for anyone who is still confused about the public option. Thanks.
Brilliant consistency from the Republicans; at the start, Obama praises choice and competition, they give a standing ovation. At the end, Obama demands that Americans get that choice and they sit on their hands. You can see John Ensign's ugly features twisted up like he's sucking on a lemon - let's hope that it was his own lemon, and not one of his staff's.
based on what FACTS do you present this? I'm curious. And please don't say he's socialist that in it's self shows how much your argument stands by it's self.
I'd be willing to wait a little longer than normal as long as I, and everyone around me, could actually afford to see a doctor, or get a surgery.
I passed out in the cold while walking to school, a couple of years ago, and woke up on the side of the road. My school called the ambulance, and suggested I go to the hospital. Even though I rejected the ambulance, they charged us $100+.Wtf? And I had to get a brain scan and a ultra-sound on my heart, which cost us $1,000+, and that's WITH insurance.
China has issued its first warrant for mass inoculation with domestic A/H1N1 flu vaccine, the first country in the world to do so Chinese , get ready to extermination , US consumer has no money for your shit
I'm not a big fan of Obama or his bill, but even I, as a sensible libertarian with integrity, am NOT gonna make shit up about the Democrats' plan. That's foolish and low-class! Can't you guys on the Republican side come up with better arguments than "This will nationalize healthcare" or "Seniors will be killed to save the young"?
Someone better tell govtrack that they should hire ChristinaPebble. Apparently she knows more about the healthcare bill than the experts there who post all the bill summaries and bills in their original text. Please... You guys are wasting people's time with that nonsense.
If you have problems with the healthcare plan, just say your concerns HONESTLY! Don't make crap up about nationalization or death panels to scare people. Don't you have any more intellectual strength than that?
Obama. We used that old trick in debating class to shorten the time of the person speaking he only has an hour on Television. They wouldn't have heckled or he wouldn't have heckled if he didn't have the OK from his party members
Are you just copy/pasting this into every TPM video?
He's the President, he can talk as long as he wants. -- c-span, CNN, etc. aren't going to cut him off in the middle of a speech.
Are you just convinced that no one would applaud the President of the United States for any reason other than to interrupt him? What's wrong with you?
UPDATE***The LIBS are right now flooding Joe Wilson's OFFICE for telling OBAMA THE TRUTH - that he is lying about not covering illegals aliens. (Uh, Read the bill, folks!) Illegals are covered which is an insult & outrage! *Shame on OBAMA! **WILSON Deserves Praise! Let him know that you appreciate his comment to BO tonight! Fax: 202-225-2455 Ph: (803) 939-0041 Lowcountry Office Phone: (843) 521-2530 Fax: (843) 521-2535 The Washington Office PH (202) 225-2452 FX (202) 225-2455 God Bless!
lol@ God Bless at the end of ChristinaPebbles post. I have never heard the word of God describe people as "legal" or "illegal". I'm curious to know if God would consider it "an insult and outrage" that these people may get care for their health.. I am hardly religious but since God was mentioned in the post I must ask: Would God favour free health care? If not,why not?
UPDATE***The filthy anti-American libs are flooding Joe Wilson's OFFICE for telling OBAMA the truth - that he is lying about not covering illegals aliens. 9Uh, Read the bill, folks!) Illegals are covered which is an insult & outrage! **WILSON Deserves Praise! Let him know that you appreciate his comment to BO tonight! Fax: 202-225-2455 Ph: (803) 939-0041 Lowcountry Office Phone: (843) 521-2530 Fax: (843) 521-2535 The Washington Office PH (202) 225-2452 FX (202) 225-2455 God Bless you!
Please direct me to a "CREDITED" source that points it out on the bill and if you do not have any legit claims please fucking die.. oh wait your of age now im glad fucks like you are dying :)..
So if public option will be self sufficient and funded with premiums it collects...why does this reform cost over a trillion dollars? Why because it's yet another entitlement wolf in sheep's skin!!!
trillions more for insurance companies trillions less for Chinese shit Thousands more Chinese companies will close
Biggest bubble of China in history of Universe will blow up . China not capable to finance us . Sells all T bills . Dollar will tank . New world Currency . New world Order .
Hahahaha!! Way to jump to jump to a conclusion without knowing any facts (pretty much sums up why you believe all of these irrational theories.)
I'm white and was born in rural Georgia...
But what kind of thought process could I expect from an egotistical NWO fearing loony? Crawl back under your bed fast... the sky is surely about to fall.
Someone please go over to CeresWar's house and make sure they're ok? They seem to think a countries going to die....lol Oh and if you can, can you get them to factually back up their claim? Its seems almost arrogant to me that CeresWar might have information that would save millions of lives but doesn't want to share them here...lol
if universal healthcare passes, i am leaving california. so many illegals here and its so crowded. daaaaaaaaaaamn. itll take me 2 days before i can see a doctor.
Did you hear the part where coverage for illegal immigrants is not part of the bill? Did you read the part of the current bill where it is explicitly prohibited?
No, of course you didn't. You say what you like and you don't let things like facts get in the way.
so what will happen if an illegal gets hit by a car and needs medical care? will he go to the ER, or simply left to die? How will they follow this illegal and charge him money? stop telling me fairy tale stories.
I think we are spending to much time and money on solutions that don't fix the underlying problems. The problem isn't that people can get health INSURANCE, the problem is that health CARE has gone beyond being affordable. If a CT Scan didn't cost $2,000 then maybe people would be more apt to pay out of pocket. The words corporate and hospital should not ever be used in conjunction with one another. Affordable heath care is not achieved through affordable insurance. What about the underlying prob
Spell it out dude. I'm tired of political jackasses telling people to "wake up" and "think". If you know something we don't, enlighten us. And use your own words instead of lame Glen Beck catch phrases.
we need public option before it is to late... cause without the healthcare bill will pass and we will be under democratic control .. and obama hussein will sell us out to china and we will all start killing each other cause we let a muslim run us to the ground... now we are on the verge of america becoming comunist in under 20 years... and a non republican presidency
No I just think that Obama's idea of switching one bad system with the potential for a perfect healthcare system for another bad system with no potential for a perfect healthcare system...is a bad idea.
You use the word "Freedom" too generally. So the insurance companies have the "freedom" to treat it's consumers horribly, deny coverage, drop for no reason once they get sick, and inevitably let die, all for the sake of profit.
The profit motive is NOT the solution to everything. Profit should not be involved in saving people's lives (health care).
You need to stop hiding behind the buzzword that "freedom" has become in this country and explain your stance on this issue more clearly.
This was his best speech yet! I hope he stays strong reform now stand behind what you say Obama! way to go! wonderful Speech Reform is the way to go! Go Obama YES !
I believe Obama was very clear on this...and I really do hope that Dems and Reps can work together...to give us the best Health Care that we can possibly get. Enough with the garbage scare tactics.
The fact that Democrats can't get healthcare reform when they are in charge of the government indicates that they are inept in governing. Republicans believe that healthcare reform is not a priority.
luvs2teach00 2 years ago
Republicans want poor people to suffer and die before social security kicks in
marniespeaks 2 years ago 2
@marniespeaks I that is the dialogue we don't need in this country whether it is right or left wing
luvs2teach00 2 years ago
that's reality wake up and get active
marniespeaks 2 years ago
In 2003 Obama was for Universal Health Care
marniespeaks 2 years ago
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Public Option = the Government is the new middleman for the Insurance Companies
marniespeaks 2 years ago
Marniespeaks lies...... Public Option eliminates the need for insurance companies.
snarkwaupaca 2 years ago
it's the middleman negotiating contracts with private health care - that's exactly what it is
marniespeaks 2 years ago
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National health spending is expected to reach $2.5 trillion in 2009, accounting for 17.6 percent of the gross domestic product (GDP). By 2018, national health care expenditures are expected to reach $4.4 trillion—more than double 2007 spending. (Sitka)
The Republicans and or Obama plan, is just more of the same. Plenty of profit for the greedy pharmaceuticals and the health care companies. We should model a European Plan, is just 10% of their GDP & we'll save 1 Trillion dollars a year.
MyImago 2 years ago
"If you cannot find an affordable option, we will provide you with a choice." The Republicans sit on their hands. Bought and sold.
fishhead06 2 years ago
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We need to step up our game and keep the pressure on. For ways in which you can get more involved that won't cost you a dime visit the comment section of my profile. I also have lots of information for anyone who is still confused about the public option. Thanks.
Smartassawhip 2 years ago
Brilliant consistency from the Republicans; at the start, Obama praises choice and competition, they give a standing ovation. At the end, Obama demands that Americans get that choice and they sit on their hands. You can see John Ensign's ugly features twisted up like he's sucking on a lemon - let's hope that it was his own lemon, and not one of his staff's.
MadDogOfist 2 years ago
no profits on death and suffering
marniespeaks 2 years ago 4
Get ready for long, long, long, long, long, long, lines to see your doctor. Enjoy the best medical in the world now while you have it!
ntlfr8 2 years ago
if by best, you mean ranked 37th by the world health organization, then I better call my doctor
dpo5000 2 years ago
based on what FACTS do you present this? I'm curious. And please don't say he's socialist that in it's self shows how much your argument stands by it's self.
grumpherys 2 years ago
I'd be willing to wait a little longer than normal as long as I, and everyone around me, could actually afford to see a doctor, or get a surgery.
I passed out in the cold while walking to school, a couple of years ago, and woke up on the side of the road. My school called the ambulance, and suggested I go to the hospital. Even though I rejected the ambulance, they charged us $100+.Wtf? And I had to get a brain scan and a ultra-sound on my heart, which cost us $1,000+, and that's WITH insurance.
Innize 2 years ago 3
i cant its too expensive
thielenm 2 years ago
You only think you have the best coverage because you're a rich kid who has no idea how this actually works.
dylantuzyk 2 years ago
4:26 - Watch John McCain .... Wish he were president!
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His face says "Fuck You Shara Pailn"
TheManSand322 2 years ago
Latest news Sept 09 2009
China has issued its first warrant for mass inoculation with domestic A/H1N1 flu vaccine, the first country in the world to do so Chinese , get ready to extermination , US consumer has no money for your shit
tuktukktotam 2 years ago
that's idiotic. Our Colleges fail. And now American Health care will follow.
PersonalJesus348 2 years ago
I'm not a big fan of Obama or his bill, but even I, as a sensible libertarian with integrity, am NOT gonna make shit up about the Democrats' plan. That's foolish and low-class! Can't you guys on the Republican side come up with better arguments than "This will nationalize healthcare" or "Seniors will be killed to save the young"?
whoo689 2 years ago
Someone better tell govtrack that they should hire ChristinaPebble. Apparently she knows more about the healthcare bill than the experts there who post all the bill summaries and bills in their original text. Please... You guys are wasting people's time with that nonsense.
If you have problems with the healthcare plan, just say your concerns HONESTLY! Don't make crap up about nationalization or death panels to scare people. Don't you have any more intellectual strength than that?
whoo689 2 years ago
Obama. We used that old trick in debating class to shorten the time of the person speaking he only has an hour on Television. They wouldn't have heckled or he wouldn't have heckled if he didn't have the OK from his party members
d2tminc 2 years ago
Are you just copy/pasting this into every TPM video?
He's the President, he can talk as long as he wants. -- c-span, CNN, etc. aren't going to cut him off in the middle of a speech.
Are you just convinced that no one would applaud the President of the United States for any reason other than to interrupt him? What's wrong with you?
recompile 2 years ago
I love Joe Biden.
elitemathlete 2 years ago 4
I have a question what are those papers they are holding up?
Ix07I 2 years ago
Supposedly their alternative to the health care bills. As you can see, it's only one page.
wayne388 2 years ago
FUCK! it's gonna pass...
McComment 2 years ago
People will buy less if they have less money . Especially with the credit shot .
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christinapebbles 2 years ago
lol@ God Bless at the end of ChristinaPebbles post. I have never heard the word of God describe people as "legal" or "illegal". I'm curious to know if God would consider it "an insult and outrage" that these people may get care for their health.. I am hardly religious but since God was mentioned in the post I must ask: Would God favour free health care? If not,why not?
Lennon4life1968 2 years ago
Obama got the message from his constituents.
BigPurple121 2 years ago 2
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christinapebbles 2 years ago
ChristinaShitforbrains.
Please direct me to a "CREDITED" source that points it out on the bill and if you do not have any legit claims please fucking die.. oh wait your of age now im glad fucks like you are dying :)..
Victim0fSociety 2 years ago
Where does the bill say that?? Show us the beef! Or GTFO and stop acting like an expert.
whoo689 2 years ago
So if public option will be self sufficient and funded with premiums it collects...why does this reform cost over a trillion dollars? Why because it's yet another entitlement wolf in sheep's skin!!!
Cozak250 2 years ago
trillions more for insurance companies trillions less for Chinese shit Thousands more Chinese companies will close
Biggest bubble of China in history of Universe will blow up . China not capable to finance us . Sells all T bills . Dollar will tank . New world Currency . New world Order .
tuktukktotam 2 years ago
^ Is that the plot for your new fiction novel?
ehkinoh 2 years ago 2
Not surprisingly coming out of 22 yo Chinese
probably illegal arrived by the boat
what r u doing here ? get the fuck back to prosperous China ,
honestly u r not worth to talk to me face to face
talk to my ass ,slave
tuktukktotam 2 years ago
Hahahaha!! Way to jump to jump to a conclusion without knowing any facts (pretty much sums up why you believe all of these irrational theories.)
I'm white and was born in rural Georgia...
But what kind of thought process could I expect from an egotistical NWO fearing loony? Crawl back under your bed fast... the sky is surely about to fall.
ehkinoh 2 years ago
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obama you're full of it, if we do what you say then we will all die.
ceresWar 2 years ago
Someone please go over to CeresWar's house and make sure they're ok? They seem to think a countries going to die....lol Oh and if you can, can you get them to factually back up their claim? Its seems almost arrogant to me that CeresWar might have information that would save millions of lives but doesn't want to share them here...lol
Lennon4life1968 2 years ago 2
if universal healthcare passes, i am leaving california. so many illegals here and its so crowded. daaaaaaaaaaamn. itll take me 2 days before i can see a doctor.
sharinganclan213 2 years ago
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writecory 2 years ago
And I will wave goodbye as you leave.
ehkinoh 2 years ago 2
Did you hear the part where coverage for illegal immigrants is not part of the bill? Did you read the part of the current bill where it is explicitly prohibited?
No, of course you didn't. You say what you like and you don't let things like facts get in the way.
MyNameIsBucket 2 years ago 3
so what will happen if an illegal gets hit by a car and needs medical care? will he go to the ER, or simply left to die? How will they follow this illegal and charge him money? stop telling me fairy tale stories.
sharinganclan213 2 years ago
The same thing that happens now. Don't be obtuse.
MyNameIsBucket 2 years ago
it wil probably get worse tho. i will try and be acute next time, for your sake.
sharinganclan213 2 years ago
illegals get turned away from ER help?
also, obama lied about the abortion part. he is such liar.
sharinganclan213 2 years ago
Actually, he replaced a liar.
JobDDT 2 years ago
I hope its you who gets hit by a car
lorenzoarteaga91 2 years ago
why?
sharinganclan213 2 years ago
fuck you
lorenzoarteaga91 2 years ago
I think we are spending to much time and money on solutions that don't fix the underlying problems. The problem isn't that people can get health INSURANCE, the problem is that health CARE has gone beyond being affordable. If a CT Scan didn't cost $2,000 then maybe people would be more apt to pay out of pocket. The words corporate and hospital should not ever be used in conjunction with one another. Affordable heath care is not achieved through affordable insurance. What about the underlying prob
writecory 2 years ago
Well keep that spunk and tough approach keep it honest and real and we will win Obama!!! pass healthcare reform now!!! wonderful Speech.
stme2008 2 years ago 3
I wonder why the US citizenry are sooo afraid of having more choice with their healthcare?
Wake up people...THINK.
stop watching so much TV/Propaganda.(Cable News etc.)
xeroone1 2 years ago 3
Spell it out dude. I'm tired of political jackasses telling people to "wake up" and "think". If you know something we don't, enlighten us. And use your own words instead of lame Glen Beck catch phrases.
mikebee02 2 years ago 3
we need public option before it is to late... cause without the healthcare bill will pass and we will be under democratic control .. and obama hussein will sell us out to china and we will all start killing each other cause we let a muslim run us to the ground... now we are on the verge of america becoming comunist in under 20 years... and a non republican presidency
rippac86 2 years ago
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writecory 2 years ago
testify!
Chewy240284 2 years ago
4:26 What was that, Lindsay Graham?
AstoundedAtheist 2 years ago
I heard about the govermant forcing people to have some sort of covarage ,, SINGLE PAYER NOW.
RAPMONSTAR 2 years ago
Obama is under the impression that freedom doesn't work.
Damn you Obama.
Freedom does work...listen to what Ron Paul has to say.
alex3914 2 years ago
So you think the health care system in this country is working perfectly... ?
ehkinoh 2 years ago
No I just think that Obama's idea of switching one bad system with the potential for a perfect healthcare system for another bad system with no potential for a perfect healthcare system...is a bad idea.
Freedom has great potential. That's my opinion.
alex3914 2 years ago
You use the word "Freedom" too generally. So the insurance companies have the "freedom" to treat it's consumers horribly, deny coverage, drop for no reason once they get sick, and inevitably let die, all for the sake of profit.
The profit motive is NOT the solution to everything. Profit should not be involved in saving people's lives (health care).
You need to stop hiding behind the buzzword that "freedom" has become in this country and explain your stance on this issue more clearly.
ehkinoh 2 years ago 3
AMEN!!!!!!!
lorenzoarteaga91 2 years ago
i almost took you seriously until you said RON PAUL
jusprazem 2 years ago
Public Option?
I'm a little lost as to if he is pushing for a robust public option or not.
micahgee 2 years ago
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This was his best speech yet! I hope he stays strong reform now stand behind what you say Obama! way to go! wonderful Speech Reform is the way to go! Go Obama YES !
repubtodem 2 years ago
You lie! lol what is the second thing that guy says?
rippac86 2 years ago
I believe Obama was very clear on this...and I really do hope that Dems and Reps can work together...to give us the best Health Care that we can possibly get. Enough with the garbage scare tactics.
Berniewrestle 2 years ago
Well see
Lamarmusizz 2 years ago
we'll see.......
writecory 2 years ago
We sure will, keep sucking your own thumb if your republican the coming years lol
Waranle 2 years ago
Obama speech turned a lot of heads
Lamarmusizz 2 years ago