@Sueezee1 once again with you,tell me the ideas i would loveeeee to hear them,and yeah its a personal freedom but its moraly wrong.and it dosent say abortion is a sin in the bible but murder is and that is the TRUTH.
i am a pro lifer but free will abortion shouldb illegal but if the woman and the kid would die then yes have abortion...but women say it is my body my choice go to hell abortion is murder it is not ur body it is the kids body too i guess u should have thought before having unprotected sex that u would get prego and when u have a kid a few years after abortion think how u would feel if he was tore apart with his brain tore out...well that iswat u did to the other kid
Your not a pro lifer but rather a pro liar. Why is it okay when a woman has an abortion and we ought not be offended. And yet, when a child is brutally murdered and you watch it on the evening news you gasp with surprise at the horrible evidence of child cruelty? Your views on life and death are twisted. I like the fact that you have lied in this video because you have exposed yourself as pro death in others.
ABORTION IS DISGUSTING AND IMMORAL!!!! IT IS MURDER!!!! ABORTION CLINICS SHOULD BE SHUT DOWN AND ABORTION SHOULD BE ILLEGAL EVERYWHERE!!!!!! EVERYONE DESERVES A CHANCE AT LIFE!!!!! ABORTION = MURDER
@suezzee Yes, legislature WILL be passed.The pro-choice movement is dying thru the prayers/fasting of God'fearing people.Sad that it may take bringing you & the rest of abortion lovers to their knees through the death of the economy & a few more disasters/plagues, maybe even an attack by a foreign country. Check your history books. Every country in the past that behaved ungodly was either destroyed, dispersed or repented sooner or later. Sorry you unwisely believe in abortion.I'll pray for you.
@ProphecySDarko says: Sorry you unwisely believe in abortion.I'll pray for you.
~~~~~~~~~~ There is nothing in the bible stating abortion is wrong or a sin. You need to stop lying in the name of God, because i see pitchforks in YOUR little future.
nobody is proabortion, they are prochoice. don't focus on the nastiness of some, as this reflects the passion of the issue. i used to consider myself prochoice, but now i am prolife, as i've had a revelation of the history of our nation and the foundation upon which it was built. this foundation is of Christianity, and this is not the same as catholicism. catholicism is not about being a Bible-believing Christian, they have changed different suble things from the Bible. learn more CHICK.COM
@RubertaLang says: our ma should have aborted you.
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LOOK!! We have a pro choicer in the house who realizes that sometimes abortion is wanted. Good for you.I'll send you planned parenthoods address and you can start donating right away!! CONGRATS!!
i agree with this video i we should not attack them we need to help then to not get an abortion but if they got one already then they should be told off for the murder that they comited and a fetus is a life dumb ass life happens before conception.i think that there are exceptions to abortions like if it is unhelthy or like threatining for the mother or the baby then god understands and forgives but if it is for selfish reasons it is wrong.
@prisy408 says:we need to help then to not get an abortion
~~~~~~~~~~~~ YOU are going to "help" women not get abortions?? Are you also going to help them not get life saving surgey, or color their hair, paint their house, and all the other personal freedoms they have? Whatthe hell is wrong w/ you people? can I have access to YOUR reproductive freedoms, because i have some GREAT ideas for your ass. Its what I want!! Is that a deal?
@Sueezee1 "If it did have the rights, abortion wold be illegal, so explain why its legal."
Falsified testimony in the Roe v. Wade case (ask Norma McCorvey), activist judges, human error. Also twisted logic like you use claiming a fetus isn't a person because it doesn't have rights. And it doesn't have rights because it's not a person. (the chicken IS the egg!) Now explain how you could possibly not understand that when a law is wrong you change it, instead of just accepting it?
First of all caffeinequeen89, your an idiot to believe that "pro-choice" people are swayed by certain upbringings and that these people are just mislead and need to be brought to God! You have this un-genuine perception of what is right probably based off of someone elses opinion! Just remember God is the creator of all things including the doctors who specialize in the practice of abortion...freewill is what he gave us and the way we choose to use or abuse these choices are on us... Now on the
You are ignorant. You do not understand life and its benefits. This is murder! The constitutions Gives us the right to life. Abortion violates this right. If you don't want a precious child then dont have sex!!!! You could give birth and put the child up for adoption. Or be happy with this beautiful creation.
@PostofficeInUniform5 so if you were a nine year old girl and was raped by a sick man, and found out that you were pregnant would you be able to take care of the baby? Would you be emotionally ready to have a child? Would the baby be in a safe place with a nine-year-old girl who barely knows where food comes from and shouldn't know how babies are made, would you be in a place to have that baby? Yes we realize this, I dont think it's right until it is needed.
@Pinkponyfromht Rape victims account for less than 1% of all abortions. In such cases the whole moral responsibility would go to the rapist, and the abortion itself could be done in very early stages of pregnancy eg. 48h with the help of the abortion pill. I don't see huge problem here as up to 50% of all pregnancies end up with natural miscarriages in those very early stages.
@TheSamra89kitten I know, I was just using an example of why they should not be completly done away with. I realise that people are irresponsible with what they are doing, but what if the woman was like my cousin, she was happily married and wanted children her entire life. She found out she was expecting twins boys and she was estatic. Later thay found out that the pregnancy/birth would be life-threatening to her and she had to get an abortion.
@Pinkponyfromht Most abortions don't take place because of rape. People need to take responsibility for their actions. Anytime you have sex - male or female - you may create life. Not ready to look after the child properly? Keep your pants up and your legs closed. Stop being selfish, it's simple really. Although I am financially privileged, I would feel no differently if I were poor.
@Sueezee1 "Its not murder and the Constitution NEVER included fetuses."
Age discrimination is against the 14th amendment. You can't kill your kids no matter when they're an "Infant" or "adolescent" or any other stage of their life cycle. Of which being fetal is merely one. Our rights don't come from the law or politicians. They are inherent. That's "self evident" remember?
@Sueezee1 "fetuses dont have an age, the pregnancy does. Give me more"
Dont need to. Your logic has failed. Convincing you isn't my goal, you'll never listen to reason anyway. But since you asked, pregnancy term is determined by the growth stage of the baby inside, not the outer effects on the mother. Look it up.
" Thats why abortion is legal, there is no "life cycle" for a fetus."
There's a life cycle for human beings, which starts as an embryo, then fetus, then birth, then growth, puberty, old age, and death. Being a fetus is just one stage of your life on this planet. You don't magically transform into another entity when you pass through the birth canal. Sheesh, and pro-deathers say the Christians believe rediculous things.
@PostofficeInUniform5 says: If you don't want a precious child then dont have sex!!!!
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billions of people have sex everyday with NO pregnancies and here YOU are wanting it to stop....just in case?? Honey, thats not a fear of pregnancy, thats a fear of human sexuality. Get some help for your sexual hang-ups, and keep your nose out of other people sex life!!
~~~~~~~~~~~ Stop hating the kids!!! Adopted 'children' are disproportionately represented with learning disabilities and organic brain syndrome. (Schecter and Genetic Behaviors) Adoptees are more likely to have difficulties with drug and alcohol abuse, as well as, eating disorders, attention deficit disorder, infertility, suicide
@Sueezee1 I personally know a couple of adopted persons that are happy. Everything depends on the stage of adoption. If it is a three to fifteen y.o. child who lost his parents-and such cases are very often- it is a way different story than an adoption of a new born child. Those surveys mostly include such cases.
Add another question to the survey: would they choose to have been aborted if they could?
@sinepopuli says: It all depends on the stage of adoption.
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NO it does NOT. The age of adoption dosent matter. KNOWING you WERE adopted, and MORE IMPORTANTLY, thrown away by the people who were supposed to love you MOST, is what matters in the psychology of those adopted!
@Sueezee1 "Adoptees are more likely to have difficulties with drug and alcohol abuse, as well as, eating disorders, attention deficit disorder, infertility, suicide"
So are illigitimate kids from single mothers, which INCREASES when abortion services are made available. All you've done is taught by example that children are property worthy of about as much concern as adopting a puppy. It's your kind of lacking respect for reproduction that leads to that, not us.
I completely agree with you. I'm very big into the pro-life movement; I was saved myself, and I've been speaking around Louisiana and recently in D.C. for the March for life. Our movement would be much more successful if we didn't have people like whom you are talking about. You are 100% right. We should not be attacking; if we attack, we achieve nothing.
The emotions of the people on either side of this issue are not necessary or real. The game played imagining the very non-existent systems of religion, nationality and currency are systemic enough to have produced more "make believe" in ethics and morality. This salve would be comforting, but it's merely an empty reflection used in language between the rote savagery. The fetuses are lucky.
Of course the fetus is sometimes denied fruition. The civilization created by the dominant species is a sophistication born from the dissonance of meaningless activity. The nature of this subject matter frustrates the self-absorption of all the people with whom language and illusion have shaped. There is nothing more stark in exemplifying the chaos of the people than when the moments of their first cause and last effect (birth and death) are truthfully expressed.
Abortion, as a happenstance, is peculiar to the human species. Money and the fear of death (the idea that one has limited time) produces certain manifestations. There is nothing to be said about these effects. They occur because of this particular zeitgeist.That you should exhibit the same emotions as your specific focus is also a manifestation. Spectacles in this society are not definitive of reality, fact, or truth (these three words are currently unknown.)
"Are you people crazy? Are you people insane?" I'm confused, is that what was said to the young lady in a crisis pregnancy or is that how you are trying to address "people" who you want to hear you? Murder is murder, and not everyone is Christian. When you decide to PRO-CREATE, that person you created isn't YOUR BODY at all. When you chose to end that life, it is called TERMINATING a pregnancy. You terminate a life other than your own. Best to know what murder is before you choose it.
@holliehox9 says: When you decide to PRO-CREATE, that person you created isn't YOUR BODY at all
~~~~~~~~~~~~ No it isnt, but we OWN it ( we know that YOU think its YOURS but its not). A fetus is the personal property of the women, to do with as she chooses.
@holliehox9 says: Best to know what murder is before you choose it.
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OH, we DO know. Thats why there is legal abortion that ISNT murder . Why do you LIE and call it murder when it isnt? is there a reason behind prolife LIES? Dont you have any truths that will work for you?LOL
LOl, Ya, thats brilliant!! Just make people stop having sex. Sweetie, billions of people have sex everyday with NO pregnancies and here YOU are wanting it to stop....just in case?? Honey, thats not a fear of pregnancy, thats a fear of human sexuality. Get some help for your sexual hang-ups, and keep your nose out of other people sex life!!
We should seek peace with all, but there are times when we must fight for all lives, including our own. Imagine a scenario where a case comes before the Supreme Court that judges whether a Christian is sane or not, and the SC says "Yes, Christianity is insanity." At that point, all Christians have been mean & horrible to...compassion hasn't been extended to us by a zealot judge. And the judge orders all Christians executed for "crimes against humanity", for being crazy"non-persons."
@finishstrongdoc ....ifd you think that scenario is far-fetched, think again. It's already happened. Terri Schiavo was executed by starvation (14 days) for being brain damaged....same thing...judge said she was not of human capability, and he ordered her death.
@finishstrongdoc ...and if zealot judges can order death to some for not being "human enough", then they can order anyone's death....anyone...including YOU....am I getting your attention?
@finishstrongdoc says: and if zealot judges can order death to some for not being "human enough", then they can order anyone's death....anyone...including YOU.....am I getting your attention?
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THEN...... they will NOT "order anyones death" because abortion is NOT legal because its not "human enough", and yes, all uneducated comments "get my attention"!!! Learn WHY abortion is really legal...it has NOTHING to do with being of the human species.
This is no different than slave owners after the ratification of the constitution continued to pat themselves on the back for seeing all people as equal, but justified slavery by convincing themselves blacks just didn't qualify as people. It's a sick, and absurd notion.
By all logic, a fetus is a person. From the moment of conception the child has a DNA profile unique from the mother. If DNA no longer defines one person from another, alot of people need to be let out of prison immediately.
Then your logic is flawed! A person is recognized by law as such, not because he is human, but because rights and duties are ascribed to him. The person is the legal subject or substance of which the rights and duties are attributes.
@Sueezee1 "A person is recognized by law as such, not because he is human, but because rights and duties are ascribed to him."
How very Nazi gustapo of you. No, in this society every human being is equally a person, whose rights come from an authority no human being or group of human beings can ever attain, to overturn. That's how we live in this society, which you benefit from and has inspired human rights gains throughout the world.
@pimpdalyrical says: in this society every human being is equally a person, whose rights come from an authority no human being or group of human beings can ever attain, to overturn.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~ LOL, well, when that "authority" takes the place of laws, l just let us all know.lol
@Sueezee1 "A fetus isnt a person so it cant compare to a born prisioner."
Except it is a person, just ask one when you get the chance after they emerge from the womb. In fact, given the DNA evidence, the court's decision on that should be overturned. They identify some PEOPLE should be in prison based on the uniqueness of DNA, yet other people's unique DNA doesn't matter, we just consider them part of their mother. It's illogical and hypocritical.
@pimpdalyrical says: yet other people's unique DNA doesn't matter, we just consider them part of their mother
~~~~~~~~~~ Do you mean a fetus? Its not part of the mother but she does OWN it. Its her personal and private property to do with as she chooses. YOu cant have it.
@pimpdalyrical says: but justified slavery by convincing themselves blacks just didn't qualify as people. It's a sick, and absurd notion.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Slaves wernt people! They didnt have rights, & they COULDNT get the titles of "person, people or human being" without them. Just like a fetus. Slaves got them thought the courts , fetuses get them through birth. Its ver y simple.
Court decisions don't make it truth. Before the constitution slaves were people, it was just accepted that you could enslave other human beings. The notion that blacks were sub-human didn't come about until the after the constitution and the nation took pride in considering all people as equals. They had to convince themselves slaves weren't people to excuse their horrible behavior, and keep patting themselves on the back, just like pro-choicers do today.
@pimpdalyrical says: The notion that blacks were sub-human
~~~~~~~~~~ LOL. You see uneducated people who didnt know the difference between human, human being, person , etc, and with no rights, they MADE UP the idea that people thought they were below humans, when we knew all along they were of the human species, just like us.
@Sueezee1 "they MADE UP the idea that people thought they were below humans, when we knew all along they were of the human species, just like us."
Exactly. They knew they were full of shit and so do you. Just like how differentiating people by stage of development is MADE UP. So how bout we make some real progress and stop doing that? You're a fetus too you know. Just further along the developmental process. Semantics mean nothing. It's about clear right and wrong.
@pimpdalyrical says: They knew they were full of shit and so do you.
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They wernt full of shit...they just didnt know the laws, the wording, or the semantics so anti slavery people made up their own definition of being SUB HUMAN and it was for manipulative puproses too... JUST like youre doing. It didnt help them it wont help you.
@Sueezee1 "The law KNEW they wernt people.... you dont get the title "person", without having rights"
But they were people. No different than blacks today. You do know law does not define reality, right? This may come as a shock: laws are made by error prone imperfect people, and when they're wrong have to be changed. You're a "person" by being a human being of flesh and blood, not because some bureaucrat says so.
@Sueezee1 "Nope, slaves wernt people because they had no rights"
They weren't given rights because society pretended they weren't people. Your logic is backwards. Rights don't define a person, being born a human being does. If you were born in some Arab country that didn't give women equal rights, we would still consider you a person and oppose what was happening to you on a fundamental level. Slaves were people, the law was wrong.
@pimpdalyrical says: You're a "person" by being a human being of flesh and blood, not because some bureaucrat says so.
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Then you are a flag pole, & Im not letting some definer tell me any different!! Soon, the law saying youre a human being will be changed because its just not right. That defintion of human being was wrong and the world knows it. LMBO!!
"you could own slaves because they had no RIGHT not to be owned."
Exactly, because you could own PEOPLE. You can't do that to a person now, which is why the law is in error allowing you to treat other human beings as property today.
@Sueezee1 Sweetheart, you're created a human being and a person. Rights are supposed to apply to everybody. Rights don't make you a human, or a person. You already are. The question is whether some powerful group of assholes is bothering to treat you like one or not. Have you really been this indoctrinated into the system you think somebody else gets to define your humanity or not?
@pimpdalyrical says: Have you really been this indoctrinated into the system you think somebody else gets to define your humanity or not?
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Have YOU really been this indoctrinated into the system think somebody else gets to define every word in the world? Who in the hell do they think they are?? LOL
~~~~~~~~~ NO science did that. Those asshole decided, without asking ME, that they would call our species the "human" species, when everyone knows we're really plant life. We're born, grow, reproduce, die, & take nourishment. Who woldnt understand that??
@Sueezee1 says: "Those asshole decided, without asking ME, that they would call our species the "human" species, when everyone knows we're really plant life."
Wow!
1) We're not plants, we're mammals.
2) You're nobody that needed to be asked first.
3) You forgot "Created" as the step before birth. You existed before passing through the birth canal.
4) You're obviously nuts, and these last couple posts are the kind of thing that WILL work for us. Thanks.
@pimpdalyrical sasy: Rights don't make you a human, or a person.
~~~~~~~~~~ You'll LOVE this one. Look what some idiot decided a NON PERSON wold be: Its one who lacks, loses, or is forcibly denied social or legal status, especially basic human rights, or who effectively ceases to have a record, or never had a record of their existence within a society from a point of view of traceability, documentation, or existence.lol
@Sueezee1 "We dont "treat" fetuses like property........ they ARE our property."
Then you're your mother's property, and she can kill you whenever she wants. There is no logical distinction between you as a fetus and you at any other point in your biological function, except the one's people like you made up and put into law. Thankfully those can be changed.
@pimpdalyrical says: There is no logical distinction between you as a fetus and you at any other point in your biological function, except the one's people like you made up and put into law.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Drunk driving isnt wrong just because the law says it is. Whats your point?
@pimpdalyrical says: You can't do that to a person now,
~~~~~~~~~~ YOu couldnt do that to a PERSON then, because a person had right not to have that done to them...Im laughing so hard right now,...you cant imagine..lol
@pimpdalyrical say: which is why the law is in error allowing you to treat other human beings as property today.
~~~~~~~~~~~~ Treating them as property, and having them as your personal property is 2 different things. I can treat my maid as property in telling her to do specific things, but it dosent mean I own her and thats NOT illegal. make yourslef clearer.
Although I am pro-choice, I am very impressed with your video. It's true, you get much further with people faced with a crisis by trying to reason with them and have compassion for them. At the very least, a dialogue can be maintained, where perhaps your message will actually come across
Apparently, singing to a blob of cells in your tummy has no benefits to the child after they are born. Oh wait.....that is incorrect. So how does a non-living thing connect to an emotional action before it physically exits the womb?
No-one is forced to have a baby, ever. But if you choose to have sex, you have to be willing to live with the consequences that may come from it, on birth control or not. If you are against birth control, then sex should be saved until you are in a point in your life where you can support a baby. A baby doesn't bring itself into the world, we do. i agree, pro-lifes need to stop being so harsh :P
@AshleySiobhan What do you tell the woman that's been gang raped? What do you tell the girl that's been molested and finds herself pregnant? Not all women 'choose' to have sex.
@tamriel02 This is true. Not all women choose to have sex. But, there are other solutions besides "throwing the baby out with the bathwater." This is why we have free Crisis Pregnancy Centers (CPC), to help women with unplanned or forced pregnancies. And If you don't want the child, give it up for adoption. That's what its there for. I may not be pregnant, or a woman, so my experiences are invalid. But I know that Life is precious and doesn't deserve to be taken away by our decisions.
@KCspur92Sadly, Recently a family member of mine nearly died, due to her pregnancy (look up marfans syndrom). She has three young daughters already, this was her fourth pregnancy - She was in a coma for a few days, and we nearly lost her. So whose life is more important? There are simply going to be circumstances where the choice to abort a child has to be made. BTW, my family member was pro-life, until faced with this gut-wrenching decision.
@tamriel02 I agree with those certain circumstances. But it's the fact that that only counts for 1% of abortions these days. only 1%. But if you are raped, thats a different story completely... unless you opt for putting your baby up for adoption. Its more the teens who have sex carelessly and kill the baby they've created. That is wrong. :)
@AshleySiobhan This is precisely why I call myself pro-choice. It would be a lie to say I were pro-life if I were willing to cherry pick. I have no right to tell anyone what they can and cannot with their own body. There is no way to accurately determine the statistics as far as women being pregnant as a result of rape/molestation, many rapes go unreported. More parents helping and encouraging the use of birth control may help the issue. It's unrealistic to expect abstinence.
this earth is for us to choose our Eternal Company. after we leave here 'birds of a feather' will be flocking together, no more choice. so the question is, do you want to spend Forever being treated exactly how you treat others, or be forgiven & get the ability to change! if your mother had been operated on when she was expecting you, this rant you have posted would not be available, & maybe a different baby would live whose mother didn't get an excuse to do away with it from watching this! :(
Even though, According to Guttmacher Institute, 88% of abortions happen in the FIRST trimester, I believe abortion IS wrong in most cases. Why? Because in most cases women have abortions because they are "not ready." There are too many contraceptives to prevent pregnancy, for that excuse. I am still pro-choice. Every woman should have a choice. I'd rather see a woman getting an abortion than raising a child terribly. You have a really cute neck, by the way. @caffeinequeen89
@dyinangelstorment Sadly, that isn't true. The rulers of world have been working for population reduction since the eugenics movement of the 19th century. The Population Council, WHO and Planned Parenthood are dedicated to population reduction. Just because a choice is difficult, it doesn't make it right. I'm sure the SS had difficult decisions to make in aborting Jews (are they human? Here's some science that says they're not etc.).
@dyinangelstorment Believe it or not, some people are pro-abortion. Some people believe that women should be forced to have abortions. I'm not saying that this is apart of the pro-choice cause. I know being pro-choice is completely different, but you shouldn't be so naive as to believe that all people in the world are good.
@Sophiology These people are all baby killers, why do you even bother talk to them, pray for their victims.There is no need to be nice to them, they know exactly what it is they are doing and those friends of your who murdered their children, they should be in jail, you can't kill a baby and say oh I am sorry and that's that. Sin has consequences, they need to repent and to dedicate all theirs lives to saving unborn children, that's their job now if their repentance is real.
Exodus 11:5 ; Hosea 9:11-16; Numbers 5:11-21; Numbers 31:17; Hosea 13:16; kings 15 The other events of Shallum’s reign, and the conspiracy he led, are written in the book of the annals of the kings of Israel 16 At that time Menahem, starting out from Tirzah, attacked Tiphsah and everyone in the city and its vicinity, because they refused to open their gates. He sacked Tiphsah and ripped open all the pregnant women.
bullseye. the effective approach for any pro-lifer is to be calm and present the facts, not to scare the crap out of pregnant women considering an abortion. major props.
You are awesome! This is exactly what I tell everyone. I am a pro-lifer as well and I can't stand when people march around and condemn everyone who is planning on an abortion or has had one. How are you supposed to help that person at all if you try to bash there heads in? People who are at that state need help, and what we can do is just show them love and support and really help talk them through things, not criticize them, props to you girl!
I'm prochoice, but I totally respect your point in this video about coming to people calmly. I think that women really need to think about the situation the baby would be brought into and decide if they could take care of their child in their situation and that this will show whether or not they have a point in their decision. I think that if a child is going to be brought up in an environment that isn't ready for it, one shouldn't be brought into the world. How you handle that is your business.
I'm not happy that women and indeed the men can't figure out contraception, but pro-choice must clearly stay. It's better to have a system that can be controlled and monitored and kept safe rather than a system that works illegally and dangerously. I do disagree with the cut off point, it's 24 weeks in UK I feel it should be lowered. But really only a woman whom have been pregnant and given birth can give an opinion and everyone else should shut up.
@mikeymikemikey1 "Pro-Choice must clearly stay" is English your first language? Do you mean "abortion should remain legal." What about women are are anti-abortion? Do their opinions matter?
@Sophiology 'It's better to have a system that can be controlled and monitored and kept safe rather than a system that works illegally and/or dangerously'.
I understand where both sides are coming from...but Pro-Lifers really need to back off sometimes. I'm pro-choice, I don't think abortions are okay, but I think that if someone chooses it then that's what they're gonna do. You shouldn't tell people what is right or wrong. That's up to them to decide, not the public.
And both options have the possibility of regret and a harder life. So neither option is the "better option".
lol, another idiot responds, feminists and abortionists create the moste illogical rationalizations imagineable---rape is often used, which accounts for under .001% of 1% of all pregnancies---they are having mercy on children by slaughtering them so they dont live a life of poverty, yeah really thinking of the child on that on--have you ever thought of not having sex---
I don't see any reasons to be diplomatic with coldblooded murdered. Now if a girl want to commit murder on her own child, she need to be reasoned with if possible we need to do everything w can to save that baby and ultimately that girl too. But chitchatting with murderers? I don't think so.
@SuperMillenniu I am against abortion, but I don't consider women who have abortions murderers. Many women who have had abortions go on and become great pro-life advocates. Many of these women were just young and naive. They were brainwashed, or bullied into it by their boyfriends, even if they weren't, I don't think calling them murderers is going to help the pro-life cause.
@Sophiology I live in Norway where we murder more than 25 % of all babies, that the result of you trying to be nice to murderers. Now I understand your trying to be nice, but innocent babies are being murdered, there life is more important that someones feelings.
LOLOL, When aborted, there are no children to harm. YOU are the ones thrilling in the idea of dying, hated, unloved, unguided babies being born. Hows that for "harm"?
@Sophiology I notice you say you have lived in ireland. Well I live in Ireland fulltime, right here right now. Pro-choice laws protect women and families. Pro-life laws hurt children and families.
@Sophiology says: I don't see women hurt from anti-abortion laws.
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What a childsih remark. How in the hell can you see inside the mind and emotions of every women in Ireland who has had an abortion? And, what you WOULD see, if you could, was a women in pain, especially when you realize that No woman wants an abortion as she wants an ice cream cone or a Porsche. She wants an abortion as an animal caught in a trap wants to gnaw off its own leg. Stop the deceit.
@Sueezee1 " I don't see women hurt from anti-abortion laws." - You don't see the women and families hurt by pro-life laws because you live in a country with Legal and Safe Abortion. Are you getting the point???
@prochoicecliniescort says: I don't see women hurt from anti-abortion laws." - You don't see the women and families hurt by pro-life laws because you live in a country with Legal and Safe Abortion. Are you getting the point???
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Dont put something in quotes.......... that I DIDNT say! Are YOU getting the point?
All of them that have been decapitated and thrown away while still growing in the womb. Not to mention, the myriad children of single mothers in poor minority communities (where abortion has been made MOST available) who having fallen for the acceptance of abortion were careless and got pregnant, but who couldn't go through with it when the time came.
@pimpdalyrical But I don't accept that they are 'children', but in the sense that the teenage girls who I met with prolapses and infections and perforations from botched abortions - thanks to the laws that you are advocating.
A rat doesn't have a DNA profile that says "human" like a human fetus does. Yet if I unnecessarily held one down and chopped it into pieces you'd probably have a problem with it.
Legal abortions get botched too. There's only one way to avoid that. Dont get one. If you can't have a kid, (I know this requires a radical leap in cognition, but bare with me) Don't have sex.
It is actually possible. Just takes the proper respect for your fellow human beings.
@pimpdalyrical says: Legal abortions get botched too. There's only one way to avoid that. Dont get one.
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Same with births....do you scream dont get one of those??? Why not? Isnt your concern for the welfare of your precious women? LOl, you cant hide your ulterior motive honey!! LOL
Whats wrong with you?? billions of people have sex everyday with NO pregnancies and here YOU are wanting it to stop....just in case?? Honey, thats not a fear of pregnancy, thats a fear of human sexuality. Get some help for your sexual hang-ups, and keep your nose out of other people sex life!!
@pimpdalyrical But I don't accept that they are 'children', not in the sense that the teenage girls who I met with prolapses and infections and perforations from botched abortions - thanks to the laws that you are advocating.
The last part of your comment doesn't make any sense.
@pimpdalyrical says: All of them that have been decapitated and thrown away while still growing in the womb.
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Excuse me? 95% of all abortions are done with the embryo is the size of a grain of rice to a kidney bean. NO head comes off!!! It comes out whole just as it FALLS out during a miscarraige.
So 5% of all abortion's DO fit my description? That's somehow less horrifying? Who gives a shit what it looked like? It's a human life! We don't distinguish one group of people having rights and others not in this society, remember?
You know what's missing from a miscarriage? Intent. People die all the time. When you cause it on purpose to another, we call that murder.
@pimpdalyrical says: You know what's missing from a miscarriage? Intent.
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WHAT? I frickin explain to you why fetuses are NOT beheaded during almost all abortions and you come back with a miscarraige has intent? Good god, if you people cant comprehend what you read,,,then why read?
So I take it from your posts that if some court or politician managed to pass some resolution saying you, for whatever demographic reason you happen to fall into, aren't a human being deserving of rights, they would be correct and you would find no grounds to challenge that assertion?
Of course not. Except those other people getting killed in the womb can't fight back and tell you the obvious truth of their humanity, so somebody has to.
@Sueezee1 " killing a fetus is NOT killing a person."
Except a fetus is a person. Only mere other men have said otherwise, not mother nature or the facts.
Knowledge really is power, which is why you should pray nobody ever decides you legally don't qualify for a basic right to life. Pretty sure those same laws once said a woman isn't smart enough to vote. Were they right?
@SuperMillennium77 I understand how you feel and where you are coming from, but many of my friends who had abortions when they were teenagers became great pro-life advocates. I have no idea where the pro-life cause would be without them. I don't think putting them in jail would have solved anything. They know they are wrong and they are sorry for what they did. They have changed and they are wonderful people.
@Sophiology There is no such thing as abortion, if you kill another human being your a murderer and if you kill a baby your a baby killer. I do not believe that there actually are people who are that stupid as you claim, everyone over age 7 knows that killing is wrong so these young couples murdering their babies are baby killers and need to be punish as such to the full extend of the law. Remember, being understanding about it has killed 1 billion children the last 50 years.
@Sueezee1 once again with you,tell me the ideas i would loveeeee to hear them,and yeah its a personal freedom but its moraly wrong.and it dosent say abortion is a sin in the bible but murder is and that is the TRUTH.
prisy408 2 hours ago
I DOn t get it?? You Speak of COmpassion for the Pro CHoicer??? what about COmpassion fo the unborn Child!?
SubconsciousDweller 2 hours ago
i am a pro lifer but free will abortion shouldb illegal but if the woman and the kid would die then yes have abortion...but women say it is my body my choice go to hell abortion is murder it is not ur body it is the kids body too i guess u should have thought before having unprotected sex that u would get prego and when u have a kid a few years after abortion think how u would feel if he was tore apart with his brain tore out...well that iswat u did to the other kid
hairball1100 6 hours ago
Your not a pro lifer but rather a pro liar. Why is it okay when a woman has an abortion and we ought not be offended. And yet, when a child is brutally murdered and you watch it on the evening news you gasp with surprise at the horrible evidence of child cruelty? Your views on life and death are twisted. I like the fact that you have lied in this video because you have exposed yourself as pro death in others.
neocon2009 7 hours ago
Gianna Jessen, a saline abortion survivor speaks about abortion, if you read this i highly recommend watching the video.
119993sWhite 7 hours ago
On the Pro-Life march, we talked about slavery a lot. It was acceptable at the time. Only some people thought of it as wrong.
And now look at us. Owning another human being? Despicable.
Killing a baby in the womb? In today's world, legal and thought of as acceptable by some.
100 years from now? Hopefully we'll all view it as the disgusting, heartbreaking act that it is.
trackgril175 8 hours ago
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ABORTION IS DISGUSTING AND IMMORAL!!!! IT IS MURDER!!!! ABORTION CLINICS SHOULD BE SHUT DOWN AND ABORTION SHOULD BE ILLEGAL EVERYWHERE!!!!!! EVERYONE DESERVES A CHANCE AT LIFE!!!!! ABORTION = MURDER
28804ecorrell 12 hours ago
PRO-ABORTIONISTS ARE SICKENING.
28804ecorrell 12 hours ago
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@28804ecorrell says: PRO-ABORTIONISTS ARE SICKENING.
~~~~~~~~~~~ An abortionist is one who preforms abortions. So, a pro abortionist is one who is all for an Ob/Gyn..... LOLOL. I love probirthers.
Sueezee1 12 hours ago
@suezzee Yes, legislature WILL be passed.The pro-choice movement is dying thru the prayers/fasting of God'fearing people.Sad that it may take bringing you & the rest of abortion lovers to their knees through the death of the economy & a few more disasters/plagues, maybe even an attack by a foreign country. Check your history books. Every country in the past that behaved ungodly was either destroyed, dispersed or repented sooner or later. Sorry you unwisely believe in abortion.I'll pray for you.
ProphecySDarko 14 hours ago
@ProphecySDarko says: Sorry you unwisely believe in abortion.I'll pray for you.
~~~~~~~~~~ There is nothing in the bible stating abortion is wrong or a sin. You need to stop lying in the name of God, because i see pitchforks in YOUR little future.
Sueezee1 12 hours ago
@ProphecySDarko says: legislature WILL be passed.
~~~~~~~~~ get back with me when it does. (smile)
Sueezee1 11 hours ago
nobody is proabortion, they are prochoice. don't focus on the nastiness of some, as this reflects the passion of the issue. i used to consider myself prochoice, but now i am prolife, as i've had a revelation of the history of our nation and the foundation upon which it was built. this foundation is of Christianity, and this is not the same as catholicism. catholicism is not about being a Bible-believing Christian, they have changed different suble things from the Bible. learn more CHICK.COM
jdfarr45 15 hours ago
Your ma should have aborted you.
RubertaLang 15 hours ago
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@RubertaLang says: our ma should have aborted you.
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LOOK!! We have a pro choicer in the house who realizes that sometimes abortion is wanted. Good for you.I'll send you planned parenthoods address and you can start donating right away!! CONGRATS!!
Sueezee1 11 hours ago
Thank you. So many pro-lifers are getting angry. Their anger could LEAD a girl to have an abortion. We need peace and not anger.
broncogirl101 17 hours ago
i agree with this video i we should not attack them we need to help then to not get an abortion but if they got one already then they should be told off for the murder that they comited and a fetus is a life dumb ass life happens before conception.i think that there are exceptions to abortions like if it is unhelthy or like threatining for the mother or the baby then god understands and forgives but if it is for selfish reasons it is wrong.
prisy408 22 hours ago
@prisy408 says:we need to help then to not get an abortion
~~~~~~~~~~~~ YOU are going to "help" women not get abortions?? Are you also going to help them not get life saving surgey, or color their hair, paint their house, and all the other personal freedoms they have? Whatthe hell is wrong w/ you people? can I have access to YOUR reproductive freedoms, because i have some GREAT ideas for your ass. Its what I want!! Is that a deal?
Sueezee1 21 hours ago
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@Sueezee1 "If it did have the rights, abortion wold be illegal, so explain why its legal."
Falsified testimony in the Roe v. Wade case (ask Norma McCorvey), activist judges, human error. Also twisted logic like you use claiming a fetus isn't a person because it doesn't have rights. And it doesn't have rights because it's not a person. (the chicken IS the egg!) Now explain how you could possibly not understand that when a law is wrong you change it, instead of just accepting it?
pimpdalyrical 20 hours ago
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@prisy408 says: unhelthy or like threatining for the mother or the baby then god understands and forgives
~~~~~~~~~~~~ Show us where in the bible it says abortion is a sin. It dosent so it isnt. Stop LYING IN THE NAME OF GOD
Sueezee1 21 hours ago
First of all caffeinequeen89, your an idiot to believe that "pro-choice" people are swayed by certain upbringings and that these people are just mislead and need to be brought to God! You have this un-genuine perception of what is right probably based off of someone elses opinion! Just remember God is the creator of all things including the doctors who specialize in the practice of abortion...freewill is what he gave us and the way we choose to use or abuse these choices are on us... Now on the
TH51392 1 day ago
You are ignorant. You do not understand life and its benefits. This is murder! The constitutions Gives us the right to life. Abortion violates this right. If you don't want a precious child then dont have sex!!!! You could give birth and put the child up for adoption. Or be happy with this beautiful creation.
PostofficeInUniform5 1 day ago
@PostofficeInUniform5 so if you were a nine year old girl and was raped by a sick man, and found out that you were pregnant would you be able to take care of the baby? Would you be emotionally ready to have a child? Would the baby be in a safe place with a nine-year-old girl who barely knows where food comes from and shouldn't know how babies are made, would you be in a place to have that baby? Yes we realize this, I dont think it's right until it is needed.
Pinkponyfromht 1 day ago
@Pinkponyfromht Rape victims account for less than 1% of all abortions. In such cases the whole moral responsibility would go to the rapist, and the abortion itself could be done in very early stages of pregnancy eg. 48h with the help of the abortion pill. I don't see huge problem here as up to 50% of all pregnancies end up with natural miscarriages in those very early stages.
sinepopuli 1 day ago
@TheSamra89kitten I know, I was just using an example of why they should not be completly done away with. I realise that people are irresponsible with what they are doing, but what if the woman was like my cousin, she was happily married and wanted children her entire life. She found out she was expecting twins boys and she was estatic. Later thay found out that the pregnancy/birth would be life-threatening to her and she had to get an abortion.
Pinkponyfromht 12 hours ago
@Pinkponyfromht Most abortions don't take place because of rape. People need to take responsibility for their actions. Anytime you have sex - male or female - you may create life. Not ready to look after the child properly? Keep your pants up and your legs closed. Stop being selfish, it's simple really. Although I am financially privileged, I would feel no differently if I were poor.
TheSamara89kitten 22 hours ago
@PostofficeInUniform5 says: This is murder! The constitutions Gives us the right to life.
]~~~~~~~~~~~ Youre a liar. Its not murder and the Constitution NEVER included fetuses.
Sueezee1 1 day ago
@Sueezee1 "Its not murder and the Constitution NEVER included fetuses."
Age discrimination is against the 14th amendment. You can't kill your kids no matter when they're an "Infant" or "adolescent" or any other stage of their life cycle. Of which being fetal is merely one. Our rights don't come from the law or politicians. They are inherent. That's "self evident" remember?
pimpdalyrical 20 hours ago
@pimpdalyrical says: Age discrimination is against the 14th amendment.
~~~~~~~~~~ fetuses dont have an age, the pregnancy does. Give me more.
Sueezee1 19 hours ago
@Sueezee1 "fetuses dont have an age, the pregnancy does. Give me more"
Dont need to. Your logic has failed. Convincing you isn't my goal, you'll never listen to reason anyway. But since you asked, pregnancy term is determined by the growth stage of the baby inside, not the outer effects on the mother. Look it up.
pimpdalyrical 16 hours ago
@pimpdalyricalsays: You can't kill your kids no matter when they're an "Infant" or "adolescent" or any other stage of their life cycle.
~~~~~~~~~~~ Thats why abortion is legal, there is no "life cycle" for a fetus.
Sueezee1 19 hours ago
@Sueezee1
" Thats why abortion is legal, there is no "life cycle" for a fetus."
There's a life cycle for human beings, which starts as an embryo, then fetus, then birth, then growth, puberty, old age, and death. Being a fetus is just one stage of your life on this planet. You don't magically transform into another entity when you pass through the birth canal. Sheesh, and pro-deathers say the Christians believe rediculous things.
pimpdalyrical 16 hours ago
@PostofficeInUniform5 says: Gives us the right to life. Abortion violates this right
~~~~~~~~~ yes, give "US" the right. NOT a fetus. If it did have the rights, abortion wold be illegal, so explain why its legal.
Sueezee1 1 day ago
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pimpdalyrical 20 hours ago
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@PostofficeInUniform5 says: If you don't want a precious child then dont have sex!!!!
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billions of people have sex everyday with NO pregnancies and here YOU are wanting it to stop....just in case?? Honey, thats not a fear of pregnancy, thats a fear of human sexuality. Get some help for your sexual hang-ups, and keep your nose out of other people sex life!!
Sueezee1 1 day ago
@PostofficeInUniform5 says: You could give birth and put the child up for adoption.
~~~~~~~~~~~ Stop hating the kids!!! Adopted 'children' are disproportionately represented with learning disabilities and organic brain syndrome. (Schecter and Genetic Behaviors) Adoptees are more likely to have difficulties with drug and alcohol abuse, as well as, eating disorders, attention deficit disorder, infertility, suicide
Sueezee1 1 day ago
@Sueezee1 It all depends on the stage of adoption. Steve Jobs was adopted shortly after the birth.
sinepopuli 1 day ago
@sinepopuli says: Steve Jobs was adopted shortly after the birth.
~~~~~~~~~~~ You pull up ONE successful adopted person, and expect THAT to be the rule???? read the stats on what adoption does to MOST kids.
Sueezee1 21 hours ago
@Sueezee1 " read the stats on what adoption does to MOST kids."
Right, they'd rather die. Funny how adopted kids never seem to agree with you.
pimpdalyrical 20 hours ago
@Sueezee1 I personally know a couple of adopted persons that are happy. Everything depends on the stage of adoption. If it is a three to fifteen y.o. child who lost his parents-and such cases are very often- it is a way different story than an adoption of a new born child. Those surveys mostly include such cases.
Add another question to the survey: would they choose to have been aborted if they could?
sinepopuli 16 hours ago
p.s. around 3,900,000 people in the USA lost both of their parents before the age of 20...
sinepopuli 16 hours ago
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@sinepopuli says: It all depends on the stage of adoption.
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NO it does NOT. The age of adoption dosent matter. KNOWING you WERE adopted, and MORE IMPORTANTLY, thrown away by the people who were supposed to love you MOST, is what matters in the psychology of those adopted!
Sueezee1 21 hours ago
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@Sueezee1 "Adoptees are more likely to have difficulties with drug and alcohol abuse, as well as, eating disorders, attention deficit disorder, infertility, suicide"
So are illigitimate kids from single mothers, which INCREASES when abortion services are made available. All you've done is taught by example that children are property worthy of about as much concern as adopting a puppy. It's your kind of lacking respect for reproduction that leads to that, not us.
pimpdalyrical 20 hours ago
@PostofficeInUniform5 says: You could give birth and put the child up for adoption.
~~~~~~~~~ Youre free to throw your own babies away for someone else to deal with, but dont expect smart women who loves kids to do that!
Sueezee1 1 day ago
I completely agree with you. I'm very big into the pro-life movement; I was saved myself, and I've been speaking around Louisiana and recently in D.C. for the March for life. Our movement would be much more successful if we didn't have people like whom you are talking about. You are 100% right. We should not be attacking; if we attack, we achieve nothing.
David1993x1993 1 day ago
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The emotions of the people on either side of this issue are not necessary or real. The game played imagining the very non-existent systems of religion, nationality and currency are systemic enough to have produced more "make believe" in ethics and morality. This salve would be comforting, but it's merely an empty reflection used in language between the rote savagery. The fetuses are lucky.
epiksonik 1 day ago
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epiksonik 1 day ago
Of course the fetus is sometimes denied fruition. The civilization created by the dominant species is a sophistication born from the dissonance of meaningless activity. The nature of this subject matter frustrates the self-absorption of all the people with whom language and illusion have shaped. There is nothing more stark in exemplifying the chaos of the people than when the moments of their first cause and last effect (birth and death) are truthfully expressed.
You are the reason why.
epiksonik 1 day ago
Abortion, as a happenstance, is peculiar to the human species. Money and the fear of death (the idea that one has limited time) produces certain manifestations. There is nothing to be said about these effects. They occur because of this particular zeitgeist.That you should exhibit the same emotions as your specific focus is also a manifestation. Spectacles in this society are not definitive of reality, fact, or truth (these three words are currently unknown.)
The value of participation is moot.
epiksonik 1 day ago
"Are you people crazy? Are you people insane?" I'm confused, is that what was said to the young lady in a crisis pregnancy or is that how you are trying to address "people" who you want to hear you? Murder is murder, and not everyone is Christian. When you decide to PRO-CREATE, that person you created isn't YOUR BODY at all. When you chose to end that life, it is called TERMINATING a pregnancy. You terminate a life other than your own. Best to know what murder is before you choose it.
holliehox9 2 days ago
@holliehox9 says: When you decide to PRO-CREATE, that person you created isn't YOUR BODY at all
~~~~~~~~~~~~ No it isnt, but we OWN it ( we know that YOU think its YOURS but its not). A fetus is the personal property of the women, to do with as she chooses.
Sueezee1 1 day ago
@holliehox9 says: Best to know what murder is before you choose it.
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OH, we DO know. Thats why there is legal abortion that ISNT murder . Why do you LIE and call it murder when it isnt? is there a reason behind prolife LIES? Dont you have any truths that will work for you?LOL
Sueezee1 1 day ago
These pro-abortion women should stop being whores and open their legs to every man that passes by them. Stop fornicating!
gimik2 2 days ago
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@gimik2 says: Stop fornicating!
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LOl, Ya, thats brilliant!! Just make people stop having sex. Sweetie, billions of people have sex everyday with NO pregnancies and here YOU are wanting it to stop....just in case?? Honey, thats not a fear of pregnancy, thats a fear of human sexuality. Get some help for your sexual hang-ups, and keep your nose out of other people sex life!!
Sueezee1 1 day ago
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@gimik2 says: These pro-abortion women should stop being whores and open their legs to every man that passes by them.
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I'd love to meet your mother.
Sueezee1 1 day ago
Sexy eyes! kissable mouth!
yah667 2 days ago
We should seek peace with all, but there are times when we must fight for all lives, including our own. Imagine a scenario where a case comes before the Supreme Court that judges whether a Christian is sane or not, and the SC says "Yes, Christianity is insanity." At that point, all Christians have been mean & horrible to...compassion hasn't been extended to us by a zealot judge. And the judge orders all Christians executed for "crimes against humanity", for being crazy"non-persons."
finishstrongdoc 2 days ago
@finishstrongdoc ....ifd you think that scenario is far-fetched, think again. It's already happened. Terri Schiavo was executed by starvation (14 days) for being brain damaged....same thing...judge said she was not of human capability, and he ordered her death.
finishstrongdoc 2 days ago
@finishstrongdoc ...and if zealot judges can order death to some for not being "human enough", then they can order anyone's death....anyone...including YOU....am I getting your attention?
finishstrongdoc 2 days ago
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@finishstrongdoc says: and if zealot judges can order death to some for not being "human enough", then they can order anyone's death....anyone...including YOU.....am I getting your attention?
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THEN...... they will NOT "order anyones death" because abortion is NOT legal because its not "human enough", and yes, all uneducated comments "get my attention"!!! Learn WHY abortion is really legal...it has NOTHING to do with being of the human species.
Sueezee1 1 day ago
This is no different than slave owners after the ratification of the constitution continued to pat themselves on the back for seeing all people as equal, but justified slavery by convincing themselves blacks just didn't qualify as people. It's a sick, and absurd notion.
By all logic, a fetus is a person. From the moment of conception the child has a DNA profile unique from the mother. If DNA no longer defines one person from another, alot of people need to be let out of prison immediately.
pimpdalyrical 2 days ago
@pimpdalyrical A rat has a DNA profile too.
prochoicecliniescort 2 days ago
@pimpdalyrical says: By all logic, a fetus is a person.
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Then your logic is flawed! A person is recognized by law as such, not because he is human, but because rights and duties are ascribed to him. The person is the legal subject or substance of which the rights and duties are attributes.
Sueezee1 1 day ago
@Sueezee1 "A person is recognized by law as such, not because he is human, but because rights and duties are ascribed to him."
How very Nazi gustapo of you. No, in this society every human being is equally a person, whose rights come from an authority no human being or group of human beings can ever attain, to overturn. That's how we live in this society, which you benefit from and has inspired human rights gains throughout the world.
pimpdalyrical 1 day ago
@pimpdalyrical says: How very Nazi gustapo of you
~~~~~~~~~~ To show your ignorance, Nazis would never legally give all born people their rights. Thats why they were the Nazis.
Sueezee1 1 day ago
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@pimpdalyrical says: in this society every human being is equally a person, whose rights come from an authority no human being or group of human beings can ever attain, to overturn.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~ LOL, well, when that "authority" takes the place of laws, l just let us all know.lol
Sueezee1 1 day ago
@pimpdalyrical says: If DNA no longer defines one person from another, alot of people need to be let out of prison immediately.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ You people need to get the semantics of this right. A fetus isnt a person so it cant compare to a born prisioner.
Sueezee1 1 day ago
@Sueezee1 "A fetus isnt a person so it cant compare to a born prisioner."
Except it is a person, just ask one when you get the chance after they emerge from the womb. In fact, given the DNA evidence, the court's decision on that should be overturned. They identify some PEOPLE should be in prison based on the uniqueness of DNA, yet other people's unique DNA doesn't matter, we just consider them part of their mother. It's illogical and hypocritical.
pimpdalyrical 1 day ago
@pimpdalyrical says: Except it is a person, just ask one when you get the chance after they emerge from the womb.
~~~~~~~~~~~ Yep, it sure is when its born...lmao!!
Sueezee1 1 day ago
@pimpdalyrical says: They identify some PEOPLE should be in prison based on the uniqueness of DNA,
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Why are you repeating this nonsense when I already responded to it? A fetus is NOT A PEOPLE!
Sueezee1 1 day ago
@pimpdalyrical says: yet other people's unique DNA doesn't matter, we just consider them part of their mother
~~~~~~~~~~ Do you mean a fetus? Its not part of the mother but she does OWN it. Its her personal and private property to do with as she chooses. YOu cant have it.
Sueezee1 1 day ago
@pimpdalyrical says: It's illogical and hypocritical.
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Only to those with no critical thinking skills.
Sueezee1 1 day ago
@pimpdalyrical says: but justified slavery by convincing themselves blacks just didn't qualify as people. It's a sick, and absurd notion.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Slaves wernt people! They didnt have rights, & they COULDNT get the titles of "person, people or human being" without them. Just like a fetus. Slaves got them thought the courts , fetuses get them through birth. Its ver y simple.
Sueezee1 1 day ago
@Sueezee1 says: "Slaves weren't people"
Court decisions don't make it truth. Before the constitution slaves were people, it was just accepted that you could enslave other human beings. The notion that blacks were sub-human didn't come about until the after the constitution and the nation took pride in considering all people as equals. They had to convince themselves slaves weren't people to excuse their horrible behavior, and keep patting themselves on the back, just like pro-choicers do today.
pimpdalyrical 1 day ago
@pimpdalyrical says: it was just accepted that you could enslave other human beings
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Wrong, slaves did NOT have the title "huamn being" because they didnt have rights. You just cant grasp this, can you? Amazing
Sueezee1 1 day ago
@pimpdalyrical says: The notion that blacks were sub-human
~~~~~~~~~~ LOL. You see uneducated people who didnt know the difference between human, human being, person , etc, and with no rights, they MADE UP the idea that people thought they were below humans, when we knew all along they were of the human species, just like us.
Sueezee1 1 day ago
@Sueezee1 "they MADE UP the idea that people thought they were below humans, when we knew all along they were of the human species, just like us."
Exactly. They knew they were full of shit and so do you. Just like how differentiating people by stage of development is MADE UP. So how bout we make some real progress and stop doing that? You're a fetus too you know. Just further along the developmental process. Semantics mean nothing. It's about clear right and wrong.
pimpdalyrical 1 day ago
@pimpdalyrical says: They knew they were full of shit and so do you.
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They wernt full of shit...they just didnt know the laws, the wording, or the semantics so anti slavery people made up their own definition of being SUB HUMAN and it was for manipulative puproses too... JUST like youre doing. It didnt help them it wont help you.
Sueezee1 1 day ago
@pimpdalyrical says: hey had to convince themselves slaves weren't people to excuse their horrible behavior.
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The law KNEW they wernt people.... you dont get the title "person", without having rights. This is the funniest thing Ive ever seen. lolol
Sueezee1 1 day ago
@Sueezee1 "The law KNEW they wernt people.... you dont get the title "person", without having rights"
But they were people. No different than blacks today. You do know law does not define reality, right? This may come as a shock: laws are made by error prone imperfect people, and when they're wrong have to be changed. You're a "person" by being a human being of flesh and blood, not because some bureaucrat says so.
pimpdalyrical 1 day ago
@pimpdalyrical says: But they were people. No different than blacks today.
~~~~~~~~~~~ Nope, slaves wernt people because they had no rights.... and they ARE people today because they have rights
Sueezee1 1 day ago
@Sueezee1 "Nope, slaves wernt people because they had no rights"
They weren't given rights because society pretended they weren't people. Your logic is backwards. Rights don't define a person, being born a human being does. If you were born in some Arab country that didn't give women equal rights, we would still consider you a person and oppose what was happening to you on a fundamental level. Slaves were people, the law was wrong.
pimpdalyrical 1 day ago
@pimpdalyrical says: You're a "person" by being a human being of flesh and blood, not because some bureaucrat says so.
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Then you are a flag pole, & Im not letting some definer tell me any different!! Soon, the law saying youre a human being will be changed because its just not right. That defintion of human being was wrong and the world knows it. LMBO!!
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Sueezee1 1 day ago
@pimpdalyrical says: it was just accepted that you could enslave other human beings
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WRONG...you could own slaves because they had no RIGHT not to be owned.
Sueezee1 1 day ago
@Sueezee1
"you could own slaves because they had no RIGHT not to be owned."
Exactly, because you could own PEOPLE. You can't do that to a person now, which is why the law is in error allowing you to treat other human beings as property today.
pimpdalyrical 1 day ago
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@pimpdalyrical says: Exactly, because you could own PEOPLE.
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Wrong, if you owned them... they were not people...LMAO..
Sueezee1 1 day ago
@pimpdalyrical says: You can't do that to a person now, which is why the law is in error allowing you to treat other human beings as property today.
~~~~~~~~~~~ We dont "treat" fetuses like property........ they ARE our property.
Sueezee1 1 day ago
@Sueezee1 Sweetheart, you're created a human being and a person. Rights are supposed to apply to everybody. Rights don't make you a human, or a person. You already are. The question is whether some powerful group of assholes is bothering to treat you like one or not. Have you really been this indoctrinated into the system you think somebody else gets to define your humanity or not?
pimpdalyrical 1 day ago
@pimpdalyrical says: Rights are supposed to apply to everybody.
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They ARE... but a fetus isnt an "everybody" insinuating a person.
Sueezee1 1 day ago
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@pimpdalyrical says: Have you really been this indoctrinated into the system you think somebody else gets to define your humanity or not?
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Have YOU really been this indoctrinated into the system think somebody else gets to define every word in the world? Who in the hell do they think they are?? LOL
Sueezee1 1 day ago
@pimpdalyrical says: Rights don't make you a human,
~~~~~~~~~ NO science did that. Those asshole decided, without asking ME, that they would call our species the "human" species, when everyone knows we're really plant life. We're born, grow, reproduce, die, & take nourishment. Who woldnt understand that??
Sueezee1 1 day ago
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@Sueezee1 says: "Those asshole decided, without asking ME, that they would call our species the "human" species, when everyone knows we're really plant life."
Wow!
1) We're not plants, we're mammals.
2) You're nobody that needed to be asked first.
3) You forgot "Created" as the step before birth. You existed before passing through the birth canal.
4) You're obviously nuts, and these last couple posts are the kind of thing that WILL work for us. Thanks.
pimpdalyrical 20 hours ago
@pimpdalyrical sasy: Rights don't make you a human, or a person.
~~~~~~~~~~ You'll LOVE this one. Look what some idiot decided a NON PERSON wold be: Its one who lacks, loses, or is forcibly denied social or legal status, especially basic human rights, or who effectively ceases to have a record, or never had a record of their existence within a society from a point of view of traceability, documentation, or existence.lol
Sueezee1 1 day ago
@Sueezee1 says: "Look what some idiot decided a NON PERSON wold be:"
Yes, anybody trying to claim another human life doesn't count as a person would be an idiot.
pimpdalyrical 20 hours ago
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@pimpdalyrical says: anybody trying to claim another human life doesn't count as a person would be an idiot.
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anybody trying to claim a pickle doesn't count as a vegetable, would be an idiot. Whats your point?
Sueezee1 19 hours ago
@Sueezee1 "We dont "treat" fetuses like property........ they ARE our property."
Then you're your mother's property, and she can kill you whenever she wants. There is no logical distinction between you as a fetus and you at any other point in your biological function, except the one's people like you made up and put into law. Thankfully those can be changed.
pimpdalyrical 1 day ago
suezee said: We dont "treat" fetuses like property........ they ARE our property."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ pimp replies: hen you're your mother's property, and she can kill you whenever she wants.
~~~~~~~~~~~ Sueezee answers, while laughing hysterically..." Im not a fetus". Ok pimp, this is like talking to a 3rd grader.
Sueezee1 1 day ago
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@pimpdalyrical says: There is no logical distinction between you as a fetus and you at any other point in your biological function, except the one's people like you made up and put into law.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Drunk driving isnt wrong just because the law says it is. Whats your point?
Sueezee1 1 day ago
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@pimpdalyrical says: You can't do that to a person now,
~~~~~~~~~~ YOu couldnt do that to a PERSON then, because a person had right not to have that done to them...Im laughing so hard right now,...you cant imagine..lol
Sueezee1 1 day ago
@pimpdalyrical say: which is why the law is in error allowing you to treat other human beings as property today.
~~~~~~~~~~~~ Treating them as property, and having them as your personal property is 2 different things. I can treat my maid as property in telling her to do specific things, but it dosent mean I own her and thats NOT illegal. make yourslef clearer.
Sueezee1 1 day ago
Although I am pro-choice, I am very impressed with your video. It's true, you get much further with people faced with a crisis by trying to reason with them and have compassion for them. At the very least, a dialogue can be maintained, where perhaps your message will actually come across
tamriel02 2 days ago
it's pro-choice KEYWORD: CHOICE.
ale52dez 2 days ago
@ale52dez It's Baby Killer, keyword Baby Killer.
SuperMillennium77 2 days ago
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@SuperMillennium77 says: It's Baby Killer,
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ya, and what are you going to do about it?
Sueezee1 1 day ago
nice video..caffeinequeen.god bless you.
MrFernandonyc 2 days ago
Apparently, singing to a blob of cells in your tummy has no benefits to the child after they are born. Oh wait.....that is incorrect. So how does a non-living thing connect to an emotional action before it physically exits the womb?
assaultmek 2 days ago
No-one is forced to have a baby, ever. But if you choose to have sex, you have to be willing to live with the consequences that may come from it, on birth control or not. If you are against birth control, then sex should be saved until you are in a point in your life where you can support a baby. A baby doesn't bring itself into the world, we do. i agree, pro-lifes need to stop being so harsh :P
AshleySiobhan 3 days ago 2
@AshleySiobhan What do you tell the woman that's been gang raped? What do you tell the girl that's been molested and finds herself pregnant? Not all women 'choose' to have sex.
tamriel02 2 days ago
@tamriel02 This is true. Not all women choose to have sex. But, there are other solutions besides "throwing the baby out with the bathwater." This is why we have free Crisis Pregnancy Centers (CPC), to help women with unplanned or forced pregnancies. And If you don't want the child, give it up for adoption. That's what its there for. I may not be pregnant, or a woman, so my experiences are invalid. But I know that Life is precious and doesn't deserve to be taken away by our decisions.
KCspur92 2 days ago
@KCspur92Sadly, Recently a family member of mine nearly died, due to her pregnancy (look up marfans syndrom). She has three young daughters already, this was her fourth pregnancy - She was in a coma for a few days, and we nearly lost her. So whose life is more important? There are simply going to be circumstances where the choice to abort a child has to be made. BTW, my family member was pro-life, until faced with this gut-wrenching decision.
tamriel02 2 days ago 4
@tamriel02 I agree with those certain circumstances. But it's the fact that that only counts for 1% of abortions these days. only 1%. But if you are raped, thats a different story completely... unless you opt for putting your baby up for adoption. Its more the teens who have sex carelessly and kill the baby they've created. That is wrong. :)
AshleySiobhan 2 days ago
@AshleySiobhan This is precisely why I call myself pro-choice. It would be a lie to say I were pro-life if I were willing to cherry pick. I have no right to tell anyone what they can and cannot with their own body. There is no way to accurately determine the statistics as far as women being pregnant as a result of rape/molestation, many rapes go unreported. More parents helping and encouraging the use of birth control may help the issue. It's unrealistic to expect abstinence.
tamriel02 2 days ago
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this earth is for us to choose our Eternal Company. after we leave here 'birds of a feather' will be flocking together, no more choice. so the question is, do you want to spend Forever being treated exactly how you treat others, or be forgiven & get the ability to change! if your mother had been operated on when she was expecting you, this rant you have posted would not be available, & maybe a different baby would live whose mother didn't get an excuse to do away with it from watching this! :(
ForestTreeServeIs 3 days ago
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Even though, According to Guttmacher Institute, 88% of abortions happen in the FIRST trimester, I believe abortion IS wrong in most cases. Why? Because in most cases women have abortions because they are "not ready." There are too many contraceptives to prevent pregnancy, for that excuse. I am still pro-choice. Every woman should have a choice. I'd rather see a woman getting an abortion than raising a child terribly. You have a really cute neck, by the way. @caffeinequeen89
Mikelovision 3 days ago
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Mikelovision 3 days ago
NO one, is PRO-abortion! idiot.. its called being pro-choice! no one runs around saying yayyyyyyy, everyone, lets go get abortions!!!
dyinangelstorment 4 days ago 2
@dyinangelstorment Sadly, that isn't true. The rulers of world have been working for population reduction since the eugenics movement of the 19th century. The Population Council, WHO and Planned Parenthood are dedicated to population reduction. Just because a choice is difficult, it doesn't make it right. I'm sure the SS had difficult decisions to make in aborting Jews (are they human? Here's some science that says they're not etc.).
Search and read the Jaffe memo.
historypoliticsbb 3 days ago
@dyinangelstorment Your right, its pro murder, there is no such thing as abortion.
SuperMillennium77 3 days ago
@dyinangelstorment Believe it or not, some people are pro-abortion. Some people believe that women should be forced to have abortions. I'm not saying that this is apart of the pro-choice cause. I know being pro-choice is completely different, but you shouldn't be so naive as to believe that all people in the world are good.
Sophiology 3 days ago
@Sophiology These people are all baby killers, why do you even bother talk to them, pray for their victims.There is no need to be nice to them, they know exactly what it is they are doing and those friends of your who murdered their children, they should be in jail, you can't kill a baby and say oh I am sorry and that's that. Sin has consequences, they need to repent and to dedicate all theirs lives to saving unborn children, that's their job now if their repentance is real.
SuperMillennium77 2 days ago
@SuperMillennium77
Exodus 11:5 ; Hosea 9:11-16; Numbers 5:11-21; Numbers 31:17; Hosea 13:16; kings 15 The other events of Shallum’s reign, and the conspiracy he led, are written in the book of the annals of the kings of Israel 16 At that time Menahem, starting out from Tirzah, attacked Tiphsah and everyone in the city and its vicinity, because they refused to open their gates. He sacked Tiphsah and ripped open all the pregnant women.
Your god is NOT pro-life!
tamriel02 2 days ago
@dyinangelstorment No its called being a baby killer.
SuperMillennium77 2 days ago
Wow. You are so right :-/ I feel bad now. Your a beautiful, sweet hearted person. Thank you for making this video!
BooBooKittieFckk 4 days ago
bullseye. the effective approach for any pro-lifer is to be calm and present the facts, not to scare the crap out of pregnant women considering an abortion. major props.
ItalianSpindaddy 4 days ago
You are awesome! This is exactly what I tell everyone. I am a pro-lifer as well and I can't stand when people march around and condemn everyone who is planning on an abortion or has had one. How are you supposed to help that person at all if you try to bash there heads in? People who are at that state need help, and what we can do is just show them love and support and really help talk them through things, not criticize them, props to you girl!
KingGeorge35 4 days ago
I'm prochoice, but I totally respect your point in this video about coming to people calmly. I think that women really need to think about the situation the baby would be brought into and decide if they could take care of their child in their situation and that this will show whether or not they have a point in their decision. I think that if a child is going to be brought up in an environment that isn't ready for it, one shouldn't be brought into the world. How you handle that is your business.
c00kiem0nster95 4 days ago
I'm not happy that women and indeed the men can't figure out contraception, but pro-choice must clearly stay. It's better to have a system that can be controlled and monitored and kept safe rather than a system that works illegally and dangerously. I do disagree with the cut off point, it's 24 weeks in UK I feel it should be lowered. But really only a woman whom have been pregnant and given birth can give an opinion and everyone else should shut up.
mikeymikemikey1 4 days ago
@mikeymikemikey1 "Pro-Choice must clearly stay" is English your first language? Do you mean "abortion should remain legal." What about women are are anti-abortion? Do their opinions matter?
Sophiology 4 days ago
@Sophiology that's unfair you took a section of my comment that wasn't meant to be alone. Women whom are against abortions don't have to get them.
mikeymikemikey1 3 days ago
@mikeymikemikey1 What comment?
Sophiology 3 days ago
@Sophiology 'It's better to have a system that can be controlled and monitored and kept safe rather than a system that works illegally and/or dangerously'.
mikeymikemikey1 3 days ago 2
I understand where both sides are coming from...but Pro-Lifers really need to back off sometimes. I'm pro-choice, I don't think abortions are okay, but I think that if someone chooses it then that's what they're gonna do. You shouldn't tell people what is right or wrong. That's up to them to decide, not the public.
And both options have the possibility of regret and a harder life. So neither option is the "better option".
ThisIsMyPancake2 4 days ago
lol, another idiot responds, feminists and abortionists create the moste illogical rationalizations imagineable---rape is often used, which accounts for under .001% of 1% of all pregnancies---they are having mercy on children by slaughtering them so they dont live a life of poverty, yeah really thinking of the child on that on--have you ever thought of not having sex---
SKERLOK 4 days ago
I don't see any reasons to be diplomatic with coldblooded murdered. Now if a girl want to commit murder on her own child, she need to be reasoned with if possible we need to do everything w can to save that baby and ultimately that girl too. But chitchatting with murderers? I don't think so.
SuperMillennium77 4 days ago
@SuperMillenniu I am against abortion, but I don't consider women who have abortions murderers. Many women who have had abortions go on and become great pro-life advocates. Many of these women were just young and naive. They were brainwashed, or bullied into it by their boyfriends, even if they weren't, I don't think calling them murderers is going to help the pro-life cause.
Sophiology 4 days ago
@Sophiology I live in Norway where we murder more than 25 % of all babies, that the result of you trying to be nice to murderers. Now I understand your trying to be nice, but innocent babies are being murdered, there life is more important that someones feelings.
SuperMillennium77 3 days ago
@SuperMillennium77 I live in Ireland. I know one thing - anti-abortion laws harm women.
prochoicecliniescort 3 days ago
@prochoicecliniescort and pro-abortion harms children
Sophiology 3 days ago
@Sophiology says: and pro-abortion harms children
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LOLOL, When aborted, there are no children to harm. YOU are the ones thrilling in the idea of dying, hated, unloved, unguided babies being born. Hows that for "harm"?
Sueezee1 2 days ago
@prochoicecliniescort Hmm. I have lived in Ireland. I don't see women hurt from anti-abortion laws. Pro-choice laws hurt children.
Sophiology 3 days ago
@Sophiology I notice you say you have lived in ireland. Well I live in Ireland fulltime, right here right now. Pro-choice laws protect women and families. Pro-life laws hurt children and families.
prochoicecliniescort 3 days ago
@Sophiology says: I don't see women hurt from anti-abortion laws.
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What a childsih remark. How in the hell can you see inside the mind and emotions of every women in Ireland who has had an abortion? And, what you WOULD see, if you could, was a women in pain, especially when you realize that No woman wants an abortion as she wants an ice cream cone or a Porsche. She wants an abortion as an animal caught in a trap wants to gnaw off its own leg. Stop the deceit.
Sueezee1 2 days ago
@Sueezee1 " I don't see women hurt from anti-abortion laws." - You don't see the women and families hurt by pro-life laws because you live in a country with Legal and Safe Abortion. Are you getting the point???
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Sueezee1 2 days ago
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@prochoicecliniescort says: I don't see women hurt from anti-abortion laws." - You don't see the women and families hurt by pro-life laws because you live in a country with Legal and Safe Abortion. Are you getting the point???
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Dont put something in quotes.......... that I DIDNT say! Are YOU getting the point?
Sueezee1 2 days ago
@Sophiology Name a child that has been hurt by pro-choice laws?
prochoicecliniescort 2 days ago
@prochoicecliniescort "Name a child that has been hurt by pro-choice laws?"
All of them that have been decapitated and thrown away while still growing in the womb. Not to mention, the myriad children of single mothers in poor minority communities (where abortion has been made MOST available) who having fallen for the acceptance of abortion were careless and got pregnant, but who couldn't go through with it when the time came.
pimpdalyrical 2 days ago
@pimpdalyrical But I don't accept that they are 'children', but in the sense that the teenage girls who I met with prolapses and infections and perforations from botched abortions - thanks to the laws that you are advocating.
prochoicecliniescort 2 days ago
@prochoicecliniescort
A rat doesn't have a DNA profile that says "human" like a human fetus does. Yet if I unnecessarily held one down and chopped it into pieces you'd probably have a problem with it.
Legal abortions get botched too. There's only one way to avoid that. Dont get one. If you can't have a kid, (I know this requires a radical leap in cognition, but bare with me) Don't have sex.
It is actually possible. Just takes the proper respect for your fellow human beings.
pimpdalyrical 1 day ago
@pimpdalyrical says: Legal abortions get botched too. There's only one way to avoid that. Dont get one.
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Same with births....do you scream dont get one of those??? Why not? Isnt your concern for the welfare of your precious women? LOl, you cant hide your ulterior motive honey!! LOL
Sueezee1 1 day ago
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@pimpdalyrical says: Don't have sex.
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Whats wrong with you?? billions of people have sex everyday with NO pregnancies and here YOU are wanting it to stop....just in case?? Honey, thats not a fear of pregnancy, thats a fear of human sexuality. Get some help for your sexual hang-ups, and keep your nose out of other people sex life!!
Sueezee1 1 day ago
@pimpdalyrical says: Just takes the proper respect for your fellow human beings.
~~~~~~~~~~~ A fetus isnt a human being. YOu just cant seem to get ANY of this right, can you?
Sueezee1 1 day ago
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@pimpdalyrical But I don't accept that they are 'children', not in the sense that the teenage girls who I met with prolapses and infections and perforations from botched abortions - thanks to the laws that you are advocating.
The last part of your comment doesn't make any sense.
prochoicecliniescort 2 days ago
@pimpdalyrical says: All of them that have been decapitated and thrown away while still growing in the womb.
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Excuse me? 95% of all abortions are done with the embryo is the size of a grain of rice to a kidney bean. NO head comes off!!! It comes out whole just as it FALLS out during a miscarraige.
Sueezee1 1 day ago
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So 5% of all abortion's DO fit my description? That's somehow less horrifying? Who gives a shit what it looked like? It's a human life! We don't distinguish one group of people having rights and others not in this society, remember?
You know what's missing from a miscarriage? Intent. People die all the time. When you cause it on purpose to another, we call that murder.
pimpdalyrical 1 day ago
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@pimpdalyrical says: We don't distinguish one group of people having rights and others not in this society, remember?
~~~~~~~~~~~ No we do NOT...thats why we can do it with fetuses, they are NOT people
Sueezee1 1 day ago
@pimpdalyrical says: You know what's missing from a miscarriage? Intent.
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WHAT? I frickin explain to you why fetuses are NOT beheaded during almost all abortions and you come back with a miscarraige has intent? Good god, if you people cant comprehend what you read,,,then why read?
Sueezee1 1 day ago
@pimpdalyrical says: People die all the time. When you cause it on purpose to another, we call that murder.
~~~~~~~~~~~~ Youre right sweetie, thats why abortion isnt murder, killing a fetus is NOT killing a person. Knowledge is power...and you have neither.
Sueezee1 1 day ago
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So I take it from your posts that if some court or politician managed to pass some resolution saying you, for whatever demographic reason you happen to fall into, aren't a human being deserving of rights, they would be correct and you would find no grounds to challenge that assertion?
Of course not. Except those other people getting killed in the womb can't fight back and tell you the obvious truth of their humanity, so somebody has to.
pimpdalyrical 1 day ago
@Sueezee1 " killing a fetus is NOT killing a person."
Except a fetus is a person. Only mere other men have said otherwise, not mother nature or the facts.
Knowledge really is power, which is why you should pray nobody ever decides you legally don't qualify for a basic right to life. Pretty sure those same laws once said a woman isn't smart enough to vote. Were they right?
pimpdalyrical 1 day ago
@pimpdalyrical says: Knowledge really is power, which is why you should pray nobody ever decides you legally don't qualify for a basic right to life.
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They wont...i was born. (smile). get a valid argument.
Sueezee1 1 day ago
@SuperMillennium77 I understand how you feel and where you are coming from, but many of my friends who had abortions when they were teenagers became great pro-life advocates. I have no idea where the pro-life cause would be without them. I don't think putting them in jail would have solved anything. They know they are wrong and they are sorry for what they did. They have changed and they are wonderful people.
Sophiology 3 days ago
@Sophiology says: They have changed and they are wonderful people.
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people who demand i have 15 babies that I wont love or feed, are not wonderful people.
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SuperMillennium77 3 days ago
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@Sophiology There is no such thing as abortion, if you kill another human being your a murderer and if you kill a baby your a baby killer. I do not believe that there actually are people who are that stupid as you claim, everyone over age 7 knows that killing is wrong so these young couples murdering their babies are baby killers and need to be punish as such to the full extend of the law. Remember, being understanding about it has killed 1 billion children the last 50 years.
SuperMillennium77 3 days ago