Veljko Milkovic - Cart with a pendulum - Vehicles with internal and inertial drive

[qp12qp]

All these "inventors" of those pseudo- "inertial drives", fail to understand that their systems appear to work (somewhat), because the forces produced are applied to the system that supports them -whether it is a flat surface via wheels or water via a boat.

This is why it is completely impossible to make a system that will lift off the ground. (Inertial drive assumes that the forces are independent of a reference system i.e not needing something to be applied to -which is simply not the case).

[quemundodios1]

@qp12qp newton laws are only for lineal movement. If you have a mass moving in two dimensions, like the penulum, you have centrifugal force. Centrifugal force push the system with NO REACTION FORCE, and the movement don´t needs energy, creates energy from inertia of the mass. Study carefully the forces in the system.

[Zoloft61]

This vehicle obviously uses gravity to push (or pull) the cart forward. For this reason it shall never be used in space.

[oxiigen]

@Zoloft61 You are obviously not familiar with the force of the gyroscope, check this one on example:

watch?v=gdAmEEAiJWo

[quemundodios1]

@Zoloft61 you can change the force of gravity by the force of one spring.

[drexus9]

The energy loaded into the "truck" is quickly ignored as the operator places the arm at the top of its rotating path. No different then placing the "truck" at the top of a ramp. The two other wind-up machines use slip-stick for motion. The pendulum machine at 4:30 is blocked from using its energy in a large motion. The small bounce off the "dial" sends the energy back into the "truck". Not too much different then locking the truck in place and watching the pendulum swing decrementally. All Fake.

[datzfast]

l like tis idea for submarine because you need no penetration of the hull for propulsion. also it could be very quite also the energy useage is very low.

[scasired]

The wheeled cart with pendulum behaves exactly as it should. The brief forward motion is 'programmed' in as the operator winds up the pendulum before releasing it. There are no uni-directional forces (Newton's third law). Vibrating mechanisms often display a 'slip-stick' behavior causing them to glide across a horizontal surface.

[michalchik]

Oh, BTW none of these effect could cause an objects center of mass to rise. In other words, no flight, no space flight.

The balls rise in the tube because he throws them upward when he spins the tube. The scale for his own weight is not a proper measuring device and can be thrown off by vibration or him even unconsciously leaning backwards.

[michalchik]

A good example of how people can fooled when they don't know basic physics and how bad science can get when it is not peer reviewed (aka soviet science). The first device is a simple center of mas trick combined with the conversion of height to forward motion like a ball rolling down a hill, The second and third devices just take advantage of differing coefficients of friction from static and dynamic as well as dynamically changing the normal force through a center of gravity trick and on...

[shawnmccori]

Ok gravity is a movement in its self. When gravity moves it makes a force that theoretically can be harnessed used and changed into anything you possibly could imagine it can be used for.

[shawnmccori]

Ok gravity is a movement in its self. When gravity moves it makes a force that theoretically can be harnessed used and changed into anything you possibly could imagine it can be used for.

[ScottishProfessor]

As to the gravity issue, yes, the environment of space is a LESSER vacuum (gravity) than that within Earths atmosphere (we previously interpreted these conditions in reciprocal context). Consider carefully; you will see it. When understand this it will provide the conceptual framework for the next step. Ignore the naysayers; this is the right direction.

[ScottishProfessor]

To clarify a bit; the lesser vacuum (gravity) of space is understood in terms of the pendulum movement, while I refer to the hammer element. Mass propelling mass in the environment of space would need to take the form of, or be equivalent to, a continuous, pulsating, directional IMPACT of one mass upon another mass by means of an indirectly associated energy source.

[ScottishProfessor]

Gravity is universal vacuum (see my Theory of Gravity series parts 1 thru 5). Gravity is not an energy field (Einstein erred in holding stubbornly to the field theory), nor is it mass per se. Consider how mass propelling mass will act in the environment of space. Interesting! Great vid thanks.

[mrgalleria]

@ScottishProfessor

Have you read the certificates/awards granted to Veljko Milkovic? These demonstrate that it is understood how the dual OP shows how DC current (gravity) is converted to AC current. Gravities downward pull on the pendulum weight is momentarily transferred to the tip of the arm on the DOP.

[mrgalleria]

Like a child on a swing feels momentary weightlessness at the points of full extension,

In that very moment, gravities electrical effect is conferred to one leg of the swing set, which may even come off the ground. The child is not weightless. It's just that gravities effect is moved by device to another point, as AC.

[ScottishProfessor]

I rather think the source of the energy in the child on the swing example is the child exerting energy on the first mass (the swing chains/point of contact with the overhead bar), and at the moment of Inertia the gravitational force is transferred to the second mass (leg of swing set). However the latter process is only mass acting on mass. This is interesting, don't know if I said that exactly right; I'm willing to keep an open mind, gonna have to let all this percolate :)

[ScottishProfessor]

I'm not familiar with Mr. Milkovic's work other than what I've looked at here. But the concepts are very interesting; particularly the manipulation of centrifugal force (see my gravity theory part 5; see also part 1&2 for specific definition of gravity). I could be wrong in my interpretation in terms of field energy; but I don't think so. What is the basis for deducing that gravitational force (vacuum) equals DC/ an electrical effect? This is very interesting and compelling.

[datzfast]

@ScottishProfessor ah, a true thinking man. why do you not fear science like other people. see the comments how they defend their religion least they be burned at the steak

[ScottishProfessor]

@datzfast Because it is better to fear God than man. Maybe people with new, valid, and innovative ideas are sick and tired of demigods in white coats, pocket protectors and clipboards lording it over the rest of us. See my video "What is Gravity." It's right... whether the lab rats like it or not, or like the source or not... the theory is RIGHT... CORRECT, and it changes everything.

[invalid007]

Hmm, this doesn't look very practical...but I'm no scientist.

[fullasoa]

prufffffff!!!

[carl17gustav]

Sorry, I was wrong, I think friction is mainly what makes it work. In a non friction enviroment this thing would just oscillate on the same spot.

[carl17gustav]

Sorry, this apparatus will not work in space without influence of any gravity field. This is simply a device similar to the "self moving ball" toy with a weight inside.

[ScottishProfessor]

carl17gustav: This will work in space, because gravity is a universal force of varying strengths. What happens when energy is exerted by one mass upon another mass in space (astronauts have to be careful or they lose a lot of tools, no?). This whole concept is key; but it must be understood that gravity is not an energy field. See my Gravity Theory vids parts 1-5. It seems that many people have been moving in this direction independently with slightly different pieces to the puzzle. Interesting.

[ronmann606]

Why are people fascinated by stiction?

[ingopilo]

I build this and other intertial drive when I was at the university. I took 6 months to discover that all the forces are explaine by static and volvent friction gyroscopic effect matrix and coriolis acceleration.

also this is explained in this way. calculation are not obvious and I can't make them here but believe me, all is explained by conventional physics. sad but true. if you want to go further than conventional physics this is the wrong way.

[mrgalleria]

Wrong. We are not too stupid to understand gravity, as your professors want you to believe. This man proved that gravity is a form of electricity, see his dual oscillating pendulum, and deeply meditate on it.

[ingopilo]

put this inertial drive on (ideal) ice and you will se that it will move back and forth without advance a single mm, it moves because the the friction is different in the two movement directions and this propel the thing. It moves because of friction, it will not work in open space.

Nasa paper is just a collection of similar idea not demonstrated by nasa or else, interesting but not a source of right information.

[infamous805187]

All energy, motion, electricity, and force can be described in similar units. kg meters and seconds in various combinations. Einstien theorized that gravity was caused by "bends in space time". if this were true, and we could prove it, we could potentially get free energy simply by manipulating the size of the impression on space time. like bouyancy in a hot air balloon or boat. The increased volume generates more potential energy, as it is less dense than its surrounding matter

[mityno1]

NASA has a paper called, "Responding to Mechanical Antigravity".

It is a very good 101 basics must-read!

It explains why so far, no mechanisms have actually achived linear thrust in free space.

Google: NASA/TM—2006-214390

click "I'm feeling lucky"

[ronmann606]

Good vid for the most part but i call bs on the scale part. If he can lose 5 lbs by shaking his arm then a machine doing the same thing with a greater velocity and mass should fly.

[mrgalleria]

Hey, your right.

[bobexix]

i think the car with a pendulum like that will not keep the road too well :)

[MarkTwist20]

It's just an experimental model in very beginning of the research process :) it needs more development to become a transportation mean.

Even like that it is an excellent example we can practically use the inertial forces from the pendulum swing.

[areenarena]

when they will make flying car...

[nfexp]

friction is the key here...100$ please!

[frankensteinmoneymac]

This video was all worth it for 6:14-20! thats the cheesiest big-boobied sci fi chick drawing ever!!She is just amazing!!

The rest of the video is suspect...especially when he was on the scale and saying he was losing weight cause his arm was vibrating...He might as well have been flapping both arms up and down like a bird! LOL If youve ever ownded a scale like the one hes using (I did) then U'd KNow they are so sensative that just leaning 1 way or 'nother will make the #'s change drasticaly.

[mrgalleria]

You missed the point, as most do. See his dual oscillating pendulum, then you may understand.

This man looks simple, but he answered a mystery Einstein believed, but could never prove.

[frankensteinmoneymac]

U mean the point was not the big breasted sci fi drawing??? Seriously though the pendulum effect is a well known scientfic phenomenon which has to do with friction. It will not work without it (for instance in space) and is less eficient than normal ways of moving. Exactly WHAT mystery of Eisnteins did this guy prove? where is youre documentation of such a claim?!?! U cant just say something like that and not back it up with something!

[mrgalleria]

The pendulum effect has nothing to do with "friction" and everything to do with gravity.

It's a toy to open a mind, sorry about yours.

Eienstein believed that gravity was a form of electricity, sorry again, as you seen to know little of E

[frankensteinmoneymac]

Apparently you removed your reply to me, but I got it in my messages. The pendulum drive is simply a stiction drive, something known for years. They move masses in an asymetric cycle which overcomes friction 1 way but not another. they R easily shown not to move without friction. Also einstein belived he could create a mathmatical unified feild theory uniting gravity & electromagnatism. If this guy has a unified field theory, then lets see it! It should be easy to prove or disprove mathmatically

[dareka11]

I think having watched the video that it is obvious that he needs a bit of a diet :)

[hukada]

・・・ゼンマイ？

[onthecuttingedge2005]

also if the wheels had one way clutch bearings in them this would allow the wheels to only rotate in one direction so there isn't any reverse momentum but only forward.

[onthecuttingedge2005]

it will work on a surface with friction to give it a foot hold but it won't work in space where it has no foot hold. I think NASA studying this already and trashed it because it didn't work in space.

[thefencejumperengine]

Hi Warz,

I don't care about the power consumption. If it works by using power, I would believe it to be more realistic. My concern is that, you have a mass that you first accelerate and then decelerate. At the end the result will be zero. The only way this would work, is by a change to the mass under rotation. You need to have more mass in the traveling direction and less in the direction opposite the traveled direction. But how?

[thefencejumperengine]

It just doesn't work. The summated force will be zero. The acceleration and deceleration forces that he exerts with his hand to the pendulum, is exact opposite to what he gets out when letting go of it. Stuff like that simply just doesn't work. Sorry for being so objective. Nomatter what idea you have regarding to this subject, it doesn't work because mother nature won't let you. But keep trying its good braingymnastics.

[WarzSchoolchild]

Hi 'fencejumper',

Veljko Milkovic is not claiming 'over-unity' for this device (as yet). the significant point here is that the 'action-reaction' dogma is manifestly in need of restriction. Experimentalists are not bothered whether it 'works' or does 'not work', they are seeking objective knowledge derived from empirical evidence. It's a step by step learning curve, that quite often meets with success. Opinion is never 'objective' it is mere supposition. Sorry for being so candid.

[kdaveem]

I like to keep an open mind, but I can't help but wonder about all the unseen directional friction sources which could account for this forward movement. I would like to see this work in a vacuum in outer space. Of course it would require an independent drive system not dependent on gravity, but that would be a better test. Does anyone know of such a test? Surely its been tried by now.

[JaycubL]

In the cart at the beginning the directional force is derrived from gravity, not inertia. True, when the pendulum swings through it's arc shaped path it produces a forward inertial force (centrifugal force).

[JaycubL]

But when it slows down and goes back it would normaly produce an equal force in the opposite direction, which does not appear in this case because the arc of the pendulum is slanted toward the gravitational source.This makes it so it's like a string is tied to the pendulum and to the ground; when it swings backwad it pulls against the earth.

[HalfCredit]

The 'truck' only moved forward because of the release of the stored energy in the pendulum. The energy was stored there when he raised the pendulum to the higher location at the back of the 'truck'. Ridiculously stupid.

[ninnzbinnz]

had this idea a long time ago 1990's and its good to see it working. i will peruse this. now imagine this. in space if you accelerate for 2 hours at 9.8m/s2 you will reach the speed of light. mars can be reached in 20 min at the speed of light. but you would probably already be there by the time you reached the speed. this can only be done with a free energy generator. which i also know the governments are holding bakc to keep us as slaves to there crazy ideas.

[smartstuff2buy]

then how will u slow down

i have free energy device to sell you

but will over-charge you on s&h

lol

[flowerbower]

Such mechanisms are not new. Many patents already exist; some of which are decades-old. Such gimmicks do not infringe Newton's third law, and work because of an asymmetry which is deliberately or accidentally built into the frictional contact with the underlying surface. It is quite sad that a university spokesman appears not to know these facts.

NB: they will obviously not work in space.

[vietarc]

I rather believe those who actually put effort to work on it and their conclusion than a fact book. I'm sorry but we still have many unanswer questions. In fluid study, most of the equation is derive from experiments and it is not nice and perfect and obey any formula. I then conclude that we do not know enough about nature.

[flowerbower]

The problem with your point of view is this: who put the facts in the textbook in the first place? Experimentalists!

The whole point of science is that it gradually 'homes in' on the truth. Of course, there are approximations made along the way. However, disagreement with theory rarely indicates 'new physics'; it usually means 'insufficiently sophisticated theory'. Here, the physics is clear ... but badly taught.

[vietarc]

This is where I lost in the argument. I say reality is just a state of mind. Of course it is just plain silly to science. I don't know...until people gets this, there is no way to escape our own mind imprisonment.

[flowerbower]

The danger for people who think that reality is a state of mind is that they often try to fly off the tops of tall buildings, etc.

[vietarc]

If they believe they will die, they will die. If they believe they can fly, they will fly. The different is... do they know what they believe?

[flowerbower]

If they believe they will die, they will die. If they believe they can fly, they will die. There is no difference. It doesn't matter what they believe.

[kdaveem]

I would like to see if this could be done in outer space. Eliminating the possibility of there being any movement due to friction.

[mrlowdangle]

but it wouldnt do anything in space, theres no gravity to make a pendulum swing

[frankensteinmoneymac]

I dont believe that the pendulum has to be free swinging for the concept to work. I believe that the concept works with a motor powered pendulum as well. Or at least they (I belive) are making the arguement that it is the motion of the pendulum which causes forward motion (in supposed violation of Newtonian "action/equal opposite action" physics) , however the source of the pendulums swinging motion whether grav or a motor is irrevalent.

[RexNunc]

totally inefficient and non-aesthetic.

[UFOMAN618]

it works. It relies on the fact that some rotating machines have a variable moment of inertia.

[demonicowl]

Very interesting concept...

[pravaliasu6]

centrifugal force does not obey to newton's laws

[WarzSchoolchild]

BTW, YouTube enthusiasts, the bearing assembly out of an old dishwaher is ideal for experimental and demontration purposes. Because plates are often stacked unevenly, the bearing is designed to cope with the stresses imposed. They run very free! and have a convenient steel rod, just drill an inclined hole in your truck. Here in Lancashire BAE Systems Executive Engineers are paying very close attention. We may even make a 24 pendulum model? 60 degree phased "centripetal acceleration" impulses.

[mrlowdangle]

sounds interesting, but wouldnt multiple swinging pendulums cancel each other out, and result in almost no movement at all?

[WarzSchoolchild]

There would be a degree of interaction for sure, that is the nature of 'inertia'. In science, 'Experiment is King!'...I suggest a long cart with multiple pendulums, build up from two, then three etc.

Classical Mechanics, (Lagrangian analysis) says this should not even happen in the first place!

[mrlowdangle]

i'd be interested to know how things go if your willing to let me know?

good luck with it!

[WarzSchoolchild]

Thanks,

Just now our research efforts are focused on the methodology of maintaining pendulum oscillation with a minimum of power input. We hope to investigate 'inclined pendulums' in a canal barge. Two AA NmH 1800 mAhr. pen-cell batteries with 1000 meters of 2.5 mm copper coil (3 Ohm resistance) can we believe, maintain two synchronized pendulums, two short one amp pulses rotate permanent magnet rods. and 2 x100 Kilo pendulum bobs. The battery should last for 10 hours...a long barge voyage!

[WarzSchoolchild]

Thanks Veljko Milkovic. We have started to design & construct a prototype "Eight Inclined Pendulum" cart with 4 bicycle wheels.

We are employing circular loudspeaker magnets with mild steel "Cup-n-Cone" pole pieces. to create frictionless bearings, (stacked on a scaffold tube) 4 pendulums 2+2 in balanced counter oscliation, and 4 more oscilating 180 degrees out of phase, (smoother motion). An onboard battery (charged by braking) powering segment motors will topple the pendulums over the top.

[boxa888]

get some high frequency nikola tesla oscillators and have them vibrate really fast and have anti gravity sweeet!

[pulsecombustion]

if the weels had no friction the car would move backwards a bit, its just stupid.

[acousticvox]

"if the weels had no friction the car would move backwards a bit, its just stupid."

Ha-ha, if conventional car's wheels had no friction, the car would not move at all: you may even burn all available gas.

[gpscfd]

I had a wind up car as a child. It was way more advanced that this. Quit wasting people's time.

[curbina]

Laithwaite did exactly the same in his days, and he patented a reaction less drive. It still requires energy, but is very effcient.

REgards.

[WarzSchoolchild]

The deafening silence from the mainstream academical community, speaks volumes! The 'root' of the word; "Ignorance" (L.ignoro in--not; gnarus--knowing.) may be of two origins, 'overlooking' may be inadvertant? (advertens,advertentis, ppr.of adverto, I ATTEND TO.) or it may be negligence?

We see demonstrated here, a centripetal acceleration derived impulse to a truck. Why is this fact inadmissible? We reserve the right to impute those who's responsibility is to confer public knowledge. CAVEAT!