So kind of unrelated...but what's the name of the song that plays at the end of this video? It sounds like kim walker or misty edwards...but i cant find it :P Thanks!
You've given them no reason to. Lots of talk, no action. You need more emotional histrionics in your vids. Yelling and waving your hands around is very convincing. Especially when you're not backing up what you claim.
The Bible carries as much weight with atheists as the Quran carries with you and you’re just as convincing to atheists as Muslims are to you. The belief that there is only one truth and that oneself is in possession of it isn’t unique to Christians; it's the basic claim of every religion and being successfully brainwashed into a belief doesn’t make it the truth; one man’s “Ultimate Truth” is another man’s garbage, so either the Ultimate Truth is garbage or no one has the Ultimate Truth.
@GODandPEACE Your statement; "so either the Ultimate Truth is garbage or no one has the Ultimate Truth." is actually a false dichotomy (you arbitrarily allowed only two options) IF ultimate truth exists (which I believe) and someone thinks it is garbage, that does not make it garbage. What you or I or another believes does not change reality. If I do not believe we have a moon that has not bearing on the reality of weather or not there is actually a moon. So you summation is erroneous.
Coming from you it’s rather funny, because “you arbitrarily allowed only one option” for this so called Supernatural god, the one you believe in (of course) and just to keep in line with your pathetic response, “If you do believe that we have a god that has no bearing on the reality of whether or not there is actually a god”.
Spending 15 yrs studying the Bible adds as much credibility to its word as to the word of Quran when a Muslims studies it for 15 yrs.
@GODandPEACE Hmm. changing the subject again. Well I guess I can't blame you. I have all kinds of logical cogent reasons or believing in the Bible as I mentioned in my vid It is my faith however. Albeit a faith the perfectly fits the observable facts. That aside. If i am a hypocrite and lets' say I am peddling a pack of lies as you quite strongly imply. (I will ask again) According to your world view why would this be wrong? You seem to strongly object. Why according you your atheistic position
I lived on 4 continents and came across many faiths/gods; I’m the first to admit that atheism is not for everyone and that most people need religion in their lives; but when people start peddling their brand of religious nonsense and try to make sense of its then I’ve to intrude on their delusions. You can’t expect me to favor your religious ignorance because it wouldn’t be fair to the other simpletons from other faiths especially when your proof is just as much of a load of crap as theirs is.
Is something stopping god from proving me wrong right now and showing me miracles are real and he is too? If what people gave unproven testimony for was proof of what they said we would live in insane chaos. There's probably people out there who say they watched god get murdered by satan. There are people give testimony allah, and every god ever is real. So unless every god exists at the same time, good luck with that argument.
i don't think you need to be religious at all. Because if god is all understanding, then he will understand why i do what is classified as sin. BUT when i see someone that needs help i help them. Because it is the right thing to do not the bloody christian thing to do. So i think im safe because if i die being an evolutionist i can die in the knowlege that i helped people. If God exists and i goto heaven i say you know what earth was better. if i goto hell ill say satan G-Day now wheres the pub.
@Wulfric121 How is he forcing his beliefs down your throat? If you don't agree with what he says than don't watch his videos and don't argue. Simple as that if you honestly don't care for Christians.
The oldest traditions I still see around are those of religion. But there I do agree with the scripture quote, we should throw out these traditions, because they are just hindering our progress.
@MrGcp2009 "(Theism) Mega Stupid" Interesting, considering the sciences were pioneered by them Interesting. Almost all of the founding fathers of the United States of America who framed one of the most awesome document enshrining freedom known 2 the world the constitution Under which the USA prospered becoming most powerful and the envy of the entire world. What have you done? What have atheists done? Looks like your outside looking in now. Very ignorant and foolish statement!
@kingdmculture Thomas Jefferson and John Adams, among others, have many quotes that blatantly contradict your vision of them. You are a hardcore Christian, but you're taking credit for the achievements of the Babylonians (c. 5000 b.c.e. - c. 500 b.c.e.), the Greeks (c. 3000 b.c.e - c. 250 b.c.e.) the Romans (c. 900 b.c.e - c. 1453 c.e.) and the Arabs (c. 650 b.c.e - present) all of whom were conspicuously NOT Christian.
@kingdmculture Don't you just love the people on here commenting about how your trying to force them to believe and how you scare them excreta,when it is your channel and all they have to do is go away.Esp.. like Wulfric121 talk about force one's belief system they teach in school a THEORY like the big bang and evolution that they have no proof of as a fact whether,we and our children want to hear it or not,and they are always so bitter and rude. Good luck
This is exactly why I do not respect devout Christian's, because you force your beliefs down everybody else's throats like it's the only way to live, or the only way to belief in a set of psychological, philosophical or even logical way to look at their own lives.
You actually pretty much terrify me with how stern you are in what you say. The way you talk makes me feel like you'll rip my head off if I was to disagree with you up front.
@Wulfric121 Lol!! If yu met me you would not fear. Very laid back, and would never talk one on one to someone that way. But honestly if you knew what I knew you would understand that you can't play patty cake with this lie. If you also knew the oft times very nasty way those who are devout Dawkins fans ect... talk with constant insults and attacks you might understand that one must boldly proclaim truth with all it's implications. Check out one of my other videos. I am not always that fiery. CU
@kingdmculture Boldly proclaiming something you believe does not have to sound like manipulation or "psychic vampirism" in my religion and beliefs. What you can do instead is state your beliefs and if someone doesn't agree, that's fine, it's their choice. Most Christian's who come across someone who does not share the same set of rules is usually looked down upon as a sinner, an unbeliever or unclean.
If someone is happy with their life, it shouldn't matter if their faith is not yours as well.
"Testimony isn't evidence" OK then.... Why does the fate of millions hang on testimonies in the court of law every single day if testimonies are not valid to determine what is true?
@kingdmculture Millions? Trying to scare me with numbers? Besides, those court cases concern relatively mundane cases. In the case of whether an omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent god exists, for which there is absolutely no evidence, testimony just doesn't cut it.
@dsgamecube how is this for hard evidence, Jesus said he come for the unsaved not the saved and he come to divide he had come to judge the world that he was being murdered for his inheritance,and that we were being judge for the blood of the prophets sense the days of cain,he also said that man would walk in the heavens,you call that astronauts,and the great trials and tribulations would start before that generation past and I think Rome hit apocalypse,he said no one knew him and no one did
@elainepul history proves we could not get off our belly for 1800 years we lost all advancement,and claims man repeats his destruction,and he that does not learn from history is doomed to repeat,so how does your evolution fit in with repatriation,according to evolution man has one way always evolving but history and archeology show man builds is destroyed and only to do it again,we already have sign of falling again1800 years of hell and only 200 years of comfort.
One other thing, you made me laugh when you said the bible had been preserved, its been edited and censored across the hundreds of years its been around
Does god do miracles for you because your so special. What proof do you have about anything. Study ancient Egypt and religion. What god put boots in a trash can for you. I must be god then cause I threw some old boots away.
The idea, that the Bible, is some kind of mega science book is very laughable.
I'm sure if I meditated on a verse from my Cuisine book "Some of the best pizzas come from coal fixed ovens......" , I could convince myself that pizza is evil, unless fired and purified in the depths of hellfire, and make the whole magazine some kind of "God inspired" novel.........but I'm not that simple.
@BrightStaroftheDawn Wow... Who said that that the Bible, is some kind of mega science book? Not me! The Bible is not a science book, but when it touches upon science it is accurate in advanced ways like no other book. Why do you want to shoot that fact down. Cause it upsets your "no God" view. Common let the facts take you where they must and that is really toword the only good explaination for everything. That; "In the beginning, God made the heavens and the earth."
If I didn't become atheist in my views many years ago, I probably would have started now, knowing that so many Christians today are saying such things about the Bible.
A desperate attempt to use science to "prove God" makes it seem that your own faith is dwindling.
@kingdmculture You're 100% right, collecting two of every species of animal and putting them on a boat for forty days is scientifically sound.
Here's food for thought. A few hundred years ago, millions of people would have told you that the world is flat, held up on four pillars, and the the sun revolved around it.
The amount of people that believe something in no way affects its validity.
@nakedapedude I bet if we met randomly somewhere you would probably be fairly polite. But cause you believe in a theory that is based on mostly lies and deception and I admit and preach my faith you go straight to name calling. You do realize by these attacks you do not advance your argument in any way real way. Yet you probably boast that you are the rational scientific one. What do you really got?
Evolutionary theory is just science, the same science that gives us gravitational theory and cell theory, the same science that built your computer, gives you clean water, medicine, electricity, gas for your car, safe food etc. Your rejection of evolutionary theory because it doesn't fit your particular interpretation of some ancient scripture written by bronze age hebrew mystics ignorant of almost everything we now know to be true about the universe, is absurd.
If it is scentific, I want you to name just 5 specific science related things within that Bible.
And, no, it can't be metaphors like the spittle is really laser surgery for cataracts, or the pillar of salt means that too much salt will kill you from high blood pressure, or anything crazy like that.
It also says this: "That it might take hold of the ENDS OF THE EARTH,...." Job 38:13 "He shakes the earth from its place and makes ITS pillars tremble. , Job 9:6)"
(obviously , the earth has "pillars" according to your Bible)
"Their measure is LONGER than the earth and WIDER than the sea.~ Job 11:9
Yeah, that surely describes a "round, spherical earth".....
@BrightStaroftheDawn 1. Scientists Used to Believe Only between one thousand and twelve hundred stars in the whole universe. But Now Science Shows; But Now Science Shows; Trillions upon trillions of stars; they cannot be counted by man! The Bible Always Said; Jeremiah 33:22a "As the host of heaven cannot be numbered..."
"Hosts of heaven can't be numbered" <----this is scientific??? Pretty vague and quite useless. On the clearest night, "hosts" never COULD be numbered, even with the naked eye. A poetic observation.
Much like saying the grass is green.
Now maybe if your book said something as simple as the shape of the galaxies being spiral......something you COULDN'T see with the naked eye, it would be more um, proPHETic, and not scientific.
@BrightStaroftheDawn You are ignoring that this scientifically accurate info was given thousands of years before the million dollar instruments we have now to measure these things were ever even imagined. Explain that without God. Come on. I am waiting. I gave 5 good examples but 1,000,000 won't be enough if you want to ignore God and pretend you won't face God and give an account for all your wrong doings.
the exact calculation of how fast sound or light goes, with EXACT , perfect measurements, that can be understood miraculously by the simple and learned, and we tested it, and it was TRUE, then you just might have something you can call scientific in the Bible.
@BrightStaroftheDawn Here ya go. So what now? God is real my friend, only He could have revealed these things to man. There is no other explaination.
PS there are lots more if you want some more. I do not belitle you for what you beilieve. I just say Jesus is so real. I wish you were more open minded. Hmmm... maybe you are.
It's too bad the good parts aren't heeded by Christians, nor do they understand it.
.......and it uses many place names and historical kings and procurators at the time, concurrent with a few historical happenings......much like I could say a man named Arny Schwarz, a governor of the west coast, performed miracles and had a talking panda bear...
Dear Kingdmculture, as we know, we walk a narrow path and just a quick view of the comments below show the broader path that the others taken. Know that though you get plenty of them, you get one of me occasionally as well. I believe and partly because of your video production. Keep making your vids, you are creating your treasure in heaven with these my friend. God Bless!
We dont believe becouse your Bible or Koran are a nonsense and simply... piece of shit! It only corrupts people, make them hate different people. It sucks ass thats why I reject these dump religions!
Where is your evidence of this "super-natural god"? I have a lot of evidence for evolution and the big bang. But I have yet to see evidence of this "god" you talk about.
@kevinscales He did explain, but it was still a total copout. He interpreted the verse that he read as meaning that we shouldn't listen to science, but instead listen to the bible. I went over all of this in the video response I made to this video that he ignored.
Anyone else find it deliciously ironic that he's bashing naturalism from within a soundbooth surrounded by electronics? Electronics only exist because of methodological naturalism (aka "Science").
In addition to the obvious flaws in his reasoning, I think it's terribly arrogant for a person to claim that he has heard "everything that's been said" about a particular topic. There is always more to learn. When we cease learning, we cease living.
You know, you scripture-toting theist types would get MUCH FURTHER with rational atheists if you ACTUALLY DID SOME RESEARCH FIRST.
But NO. It's always the same stupid tripe. The same repeated arguments. You need to learn to listen to someone other than the stupid clergy. Because they are stupid, in the most literal meaning of that word. "Incapable of learning."
And for goodness sake, you think we don't KNOW what the bible says? You really DO think that don't you? You're hilarious!
So having observed essentially all the needed building blocks of life form naturally is "highly theoretical" but not knowing anything and screaming at people "MAGIC!!!" is considered sound. RIght.. You sad little man.
Why is it that you don't get that not knowing anything and then when ever someone shows you evidence, you screaming "NO MAGIC!!!!!" is just really pathetic.
Yay. I am morally superior to a christian. The genetics matches with all other forms of the tree of life, giving us more evidence for evolution.
I am the light ,you are the darkness of ignorance and dishonesty.
Chickens are closer to dogs, no. You see I, unlike you, actually know things. This is because I am morally superior to you. In fact I am superior in most ways.
Example of transitional. Archaeopteryx. Smack you around like a bitch using reality.
HAHAHAHAHA There is no such thing as De-evolution just as there is no such thing as De-erosion. So you don't believe new traits can come about, only losing genetic material.
Well besides the fact that we have seen mutations add to the raw amount of nucleotides, we have also seen it produce new traits, such as the enzyme nylonase, and in fact new structures, like in the Italian Wall Lizard.
What about the all those cases of observed speciation,(known as Macro-evolution for creationists who enjoy using antiqued terms) What about the fact that you still have the genes to lay eggs from your reptilian ancestors.
Or all those positive mutations you pretend don't exist, like the family that had a mutation that gives them nearly unbreakable bones. I would say that was positive.
Science is not a person. It is a system. A method if you will, and is more rewarding then faith ever will be.
So the fact that genetics allows us to test each gene to see whether it matches with the tree of life,(which it does) allowing for millions of pieces of evidence does not support evolution.
What about the tens of thousands of transitional fossils(by the way you are welcome to lie and say there are none. In fact please do, because it brings me great joy when Christians show that I, the atheist, am morally superior.)
For abiogenesis we have shown how nucleotides, ribose, and phosphates (the 3 things you need for dna) can form naturally. We have also shown how poly-nucleotides can form naturally, how lipids can form a primitive cell wall, and amino acids and polypeptides,(things needed for DNA) also forming naturally.
So we have examples of all the building blocks of life forming naturally, and we have no evidence of magic. Hmmm, which one seems more reliable?
While abiogenesis is not as well established, we have been able to show how many of the molecules needed for life can form through natural processes.
Evolution is actually well supported and we have the fossil and genetic evidence needed. One of my favorite example is how humans still have the genes to lay eggs in our gene left over from our evolutionary past.
Science does not need faith nor does it even allow it. We only use evidence.
Are you suggesting that understanding how species develop on Earth is unimportant in itself?
My point is that he seems to trust science to produce amazing technology, but is unwilling to accept that this same scientific method might have a better reason for the variation of life on Earth than an invisible man.
PS; Science is awesome! However I see your built in assumption that is built in your accusatory statement that; Evolution is scientific which it is not! Placing this theory in a science book does not make it science any more than placing Beer commercials in with sports events make beer athletic. If you were willing to be honest you would admit that evolution does take many leaps of faith. Unobserved, unrepeatable, improvable leaps. OK believe it but it is not science.
@timberwulfzero BS .. Just because science has made some things doesn't mean that they are never wrong.. ahh is the universe still speeding up or is it back to slowing down? .. hard to keep up with those "scientific facts" they keep changin.. God Bless too easy...lol
@carlindelco; The scientific method is its own self-correcting device. Of course, some assertions are proven to be incorrect; that is the great strength of the scientific method. It refines our understanding of the natural world.
As far as I am aware, this facet is missing from church doctraine; which is probably why modern believers still cling to a bronze age text as some sort of absolute truth-giver.
@timberwulfzero "assertions" haha you kidding... you guys lay down the "scientific fact" as indisputable and immutable Don't give me that nonsense.. Again you seem not to have any idea on what this dispute is about Religion is Faith , science is "fact" or the belief that it is.. Once science teaches in schools "facts" that is supposed to be as certain as rain is wet that's how you lay it down. I am simply saying that NO not everything has been determined or even remotely understood by science
@carlindelco; Perhaps it IS indisputable for lay people? I'm certainly no scientists; are you? It's curious that you would say this while reaping the benefits of the scientific method, brother.
I would be interested in seeing your examples of science being touted as immutable, rather than the best theory based on current material observations. Science must, first of all, be falsifiable. Otherwise, it is suspect as pseudo-science.
@timberwulfzero You are reaping the benefits of Judeo/ Christian influence ( hint THIS COUNTRY) again atheist and libs all hypocrites. immutable look at the definition read it out loud then say the words ".. it's a scientific fact that ( insert today's claim on universe) then say ah ha.. IC or go ask your mom.. to listen. You think that thing the airplane will fly even though it's heaver than air ? ( like birds) lol God Bless
@timberwulfzero no why.. ru? wow! great comment so intellectually mature and complex. I destroy your argument/comment ( so easy) and you ask if "I'm" drunk..?
What benefits have the christians given to this country that the founders did not? (You do realize this country was not founded on christian beliefs right?)
Also, did you seirously just claim that airplanes flying is proof of god? HAHHAHAHA
Actually Christians rationalize the Bible with double standards. The Bible hasn't held up to scrutiny at all. The Great Flood dismissed long ago, the Tower of Bable proven wrong not only by our understanding of linguistics but threw historical records.
Using the bible to prove the bible is a logical fallacy known as circular reasoning. Nothing in the bible has any evidence outside of it, you are blindly accepting that which did not exist as described.
Is being an Atheist synonymise with being rude, arrogant, insulting ect... Look at all the comments from your friends. You need so much more faith to believe what you blindly call science. What you believe is a joke and it all made itself just add time chance, life just kida happened. How "scientific" You have been brainwashed by Dawkins ect..
oh gosh.. your holy book has warnings against listening to unbelievers.. who woulda thought!?
The quran is big on holy-earmuffs to protect muslim's sensitive ears from reality too.
The only reason your religion (like others) still exists today is that it has these built in defence mechanisms to fend off other religions and non-religion. Think about it.
Be honest. You have not even read the Bible let alone studied it.
Big bang has been proven? Lie! You really believe that. Are you sticking to that story? Where the Bible touches on Science it is accurate. The recorded miracles are just that supernatural events outside the bounds of physical laws. I believe them but I don't call it science. You also believe in miracles if you suck up the dribble they feed you concerning the origin of life and chemical evolution.
Actually, one of the biggest reasons why i'm not an atheist is because i HAVE read the bible. I betcha I can outsmart you with bible quotes.
Are you aware of the evidences for the big bang theory? Name 2 big ones. If you can't then you've shown me that you know nothing of what you criticize.
Really? What the bible touches on science is accurate? Like how bats are birds, god made plants before he made the sun, illness is caused by evil sprits, etc.
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur Oh so wait.. you believe that "nothing" made something happen? ahh that's impossible you know that right? Nothing can't make something happen. Yet you laugh at the concept of a programmer/God in this VR/reality. Because avatar/you with your A.I/ brain can't understand the Prog/God? lol If you need pictures to illustrate my analogy above let me know.. I'll get my 12 yr old to draw it for you. Or wait maybe she'll explain it to you. You don't want proof, u want to argue
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur LOL wow! amazing how little you know. You don't even know that the term "big bang" is a term of mockery coined by Fred Hoyle. So what "caused" all this stuff to suddenly be here and everywhere? Ahh wait I know. "magic pixie dust" formed right? Even hawking can NOT explain the beginning.. but you are on here pretending to know something about it.
So explain it here.. answer the question...lol God Bless read the Bible and learn all you need to know..
Actually i know about the term big bang and who made it, it doesnt change the fact that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. The big bang theory starts at the singularity and does not describe the events before it.
I already told you to educate yourself, i don't have time to argue with ignorant idiots who don't know what they're talking about.
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur ahh the vulgar rebuttal..lol.. so typical of low intelligence. A singularity what did it explode lol..haha yeah ur such a scientist. Educate myself.. you said nothing (as usual) in your reply.. thanks i win.. too easy.. u guys have nothing.. hey wait isn't that what you believe in? haha God Bless
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur ahh the vulgar rebuttal..lol.. so typical of low intelligence. A singularity what did it explode lol..haha yeah ur such a scientist. Educate myself.. you said nothing (as usual) in your reply.. thanks i win.. too easy.. u guys have nothing.. hey wait isn't that what you believe in? haha God Bless
Did you really just call me of low intelligence when you don't even know what the big bang is? REALLY? Keep talking, you're only embarrassing yourself further.
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur I insinuated that YOU don't even know what the term "big bang" means or how it was originally coined as joke about the "poof magic pixies power from no one knows where that created everything for no reason" If you did understand it. you would have stated that here/// in fact no one does know exactly how it all started ( in science) but we believers DO! haha God Bless
Except i DO know what the big bang is. And i DO know why they called it the big bang and how its not really a bang but more of an expansion.
Tell you what, unless you tell me what you believe and why you believe it we might as not well discuss anything further because all you want to do is attack my character instead of discuss science.
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur Ok sure... so anyway my question is again.. "What evidence in your experience is MISSING here that would be indicative of a God created universe and what credentials do you have in making such a determination?" simple..
The fact that you can't provide evidence of anything supernatural is proof enough. But i'll go as far as to say that the lack of any prophecy coming true, the lack of miracles, prayer having no effect are good enough reasons to conclude god doesn't exist.
What credentials would possibly be necessary to make the claim that there is no evidence of something?
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur How many time do I need to post this question.. What evidence is missing from here now that should be here in a God created universe? Can you read English? Put down the crack pipe once in awhile ok?
Prophecy: 1)Israel becoming a nation. 2)Earthquakes in divers ( diverse places NOT frequency)Disease from the beast of the fields (who knew about that 2000 yrs ago?) God Bless
First of all i'll just let you know that the burden of proof is not on me, its on you but i'll humor you just because. If god created the universe life would not be so incredibly unlikely. Also, if god created the universe he would not have done it so that it would be doomed to heat death.
1) Israel became a nation BECAUSE the prophecy was written, not the other way around. 2) What is the verse. 3) 2000 years ago people knew of diseases they just didnt know the cause
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur Man u must be on some serious drugs.. I am asking you what would constitute proof? ( hint So I can submit it to you doofus) And ( 2nd part) What makes you an authority on what would constitute proof of God?
ok very simple wait till your not high OR ask one of you friends , who prob has a job who doesn't get so high to read the question to you and explain it ok ?
Maybe instead of blaming me you should learn to speak clearly so i understand the first time.
An example of evidence of god would be that prayer works at all, a prophesy that could have no other explanation other than god given knowledge, an actual miracle.
I don't need authority to claim what i think is evidence of god.
You can claim its as easy as you want but until you provide evidence of god you are doing nothing but flaunting a fallacious worldview.
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur LOL you are kidding right? I mean how low of a grade do I have to use? I asked a simple question. Now of course prayer works you have to be earnest and not some whim. 2) You and I know full well that prophecy is ALWAYS debated by you guys I mean Israel is a nation ? plagues from the " beast of the field' who knew about disease from animals back then?
Yes you do!!!!! lol this is too easy. In order to ask for it you HAVE to know it should be here. lol God Bless
2. If you want to use vague prophecy as evidence of your religion being true you have to accept the vague prophecies of other religions. So which is it. Biblical prophecies are legitimate and other religions are also correct or all your prophecies are bogus.
3. I think its adorable how you think you're winning this argument. The delusion you must be suffering from must be incredibly potent.
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur 1) you would call it " self fulfilling prophecy" as all athesit DO. 2) Vague ?? How much clearer can " Isreal becoming a nation be. 2000 yrs it wasn't NOW it is. 3) Iran's president declared (Psalm 83) in a speech in OCT 2005
NWO the "revived roman empire" Book of Daniel have you been totally oblivious to that ?? I mean really you need to be a little literate before you debate an adult ok?
I think I hear your mom calling u up for bath time..
1. If a prophecy is made in a book, then later on in that book the prophecy comes true that is because the writers wrote it that way.
2. If a prophecy can be interpreted many different ways in order for it to come true its obviously not a real prophecy since any old random event will do.
3. So Iran's president quoted the bible regarding a prophecy? So what?
What you need to do is tell me why prophecies from other religions are false but yours aren't.
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur What are you smoking? I am mentioning prophecy that has come into fruition 1000's of yrs AFTER the book has been written Can you read English? Truth is singular lies are many I don't need to list the millions of lies to validate the Bible. You really need to put the pipe down once in awhile and walk outside in the daytime to get fresh air.
I guess you wouldn't be able to solve any crimes... the clues would be to vague for you to figure out LOL stick to music ok? God Bless
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur LOL the revived roman empire in the book of Daniel all the world empires all true we are in our last with the 1 world government No one thought that would ever be possible 30 yrs ago. But read the speeches of Bush, soros, Kissinger and all. It will happen. They all talk about a New World Order. Read the news man!! The whole world is going nuts, nations will be perplexed.
I said cite the verses. Do you know what that means? it means you provide a bible quote and where i can find it in the bible. Then you tell me what you think it means.
Why don't read the book you love to condemn so much on not being true? You don't know anything other than what others have told you. who have misinformed you. Read the truth, Read the Bible! Time is short people.
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur The total number of world empires. The last one which is currently being built is the one which is referred by the 10 toes of clay and iron This is the revived roman empire and is the last world empire before Christ's return.
Read also Zechariah 12:2-3 Israel a cup of trembling 2000yrs BEFORE it was a nation! I mean unless you have been living in a cave. Israel is in the world news daily and has been since it's start. Who could predict this? God Bless
"24: And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings. "
The 11th roman emperor is Petronius Maximus and did NOT do anything resembling subduing three other kings. In fact the entirety of the passage is completely vague and you could if you wanted to start claiming some asian emperors could fit into this.
And Zechariah is not even close to a propohecy since the people moved to israeal to make it a nation BECAUSE of the prophecy in the first place.
Its like saying "on november 2nd 2010 many Twilight fans will descend upon NYC in an attempt to show all of their love of vampires" and then they do it and its because they read that "prophecy" in the first place.
So do you have any other "prophecies" you want to show me?
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur Really? wow .. so Israel created state hood all by themselves in the former British ruled area.. JUST so they can fulfill prophecy Gee and I thought is was Britain, the UN and united state ( trueman) that pushed for the move to give Israel the area since they ( Britain controlled it) ahh revisionist illiterate education IC huh? Was there a calendar sate for the creation did you read where that is? I mean why didn't they do hundreds of years earlier LMAO God bless
When you believe something strong enough people will do it. People believed other people were witches strongly enough to literally spend all their time rooting out the "witches" and then burning them alive in Britain.
And regardless, Israel was their land BEFORE the Brits took it over so of course they would be pissed enough to want it back even for non religious reasons. The prophecy would definitely help though.
So kind of unrelated...but what's the name of the song that plays at the end of this video? It sounds like kim walker or misty edwards...but i cant find it :P Thanks!
piama18 3 months ago
@piama18
No, that is a fair question. It is from Jesus Culture, the album We Cry Out, Song Title; See His Love. A very powerful song by the way.
Blessings
kingdmculture 3 months ago
@kingdmculture
Thanks!
piama18 3 months ago
"Why Atheists Do Not Believe!!"
RE
You've given them no reason to. Lots of talk, no action. You need more emotional histrionics in your vids. Yelling and waving your hands around is very convincing. Especially when you're not backing up what you claim.
OptimisticCynic715 3 months ago
The Bible carries as much weight with atheists as the Quran carries with you and you’re just as convincing to atheists as Muslims are to you. The belief that there is only one truth and that oneself is in possession of it isn’t unique to Christians; it's the basic claim of every religion and being successfully brainwashed into a belief doesn’t make it the truth; one man’s “Ultimate Truth” is another man’s garbage, so either the Ultimate Truth is garbage or no one has the Ultimate Truth.
GODandPEACE 3 months ago
@GODandPEACE Your statement; "so either the Ultimate Truth is garbage or no one has the Ultimate Truth." is actually a false dichotomy (you arbitrarily allowed only two options) IF ultimate truth exists (which I believe) and someone thinks it is garbage, that does not make it garbage. What you or I or another believes does not change reality. If I do not believe we have a moon that has not bearing on the reality of weather or not there is actually a moon. So you summation is erroneous.
kingdmculture 3 months ago
@kingdmculture
Coming from you it’s rather funny, because “you arbitrarily allowed only one option” for this so called Supernatural god, the one you believe in (of course) and just to keep in line with your pathetic response, “If you do believe that we have a god that has no bearing on the reality of whether or not there is actually a god”.
Spending 15 yrs studying the Bible adds as much credibility to its word as to the word of Quran when a Muslims studies it for 15 yrs.
GODandPEACE 3 months ago
@GODandPEACE Hmm. changing the subject again. Well I guess I can't blame you. I have all kinds of logical cogent reasons or believing in the Bible as I mentioned in my vid It is my faith however. Albeit a faith the perfectly fits the observable facts. That aside. If i am a hypocrite and lets' say I am peddling a pack of lies as you quite strongly imply. (I will ask again) According to your world view why would this be wrong? You seem to strongly object. Why according you your atheistic position
kingdmculture 3 months ago
I lived on 4 continents and came across many faiths/gods; I’m the first to admit that atheism is not for everyone and that most people need religion in their lives; but when people start peddling their brand of religious nonsense and try to make sense of its then I’ve to intrude on their delusions. You can’t expect me to favor your religious ignorance because it wouldn’t be fair to the other simpletons from other faiths especially when your proof is just as much of a load of crap as theirs is.
GODandPEACE 3 months ago
Is something stopping god from proving me wrong right now and showing me miracles are real and he is too? If what people gave unproven testimony for was proof of what they said we would live in insane chaos. There's probably people out there who say they watched god get murdered by satan. There are people give testimony allah, and every god ever is real. So unless every god exists at the same time, good luck with that argument.
KevinLounsberry 3 months ago
Your completely stupid for believing in nonsense, i know im smart enough to know when im being lied to, so your video is getting a thumbs down
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odinata 4 months ago
It's religious fanatics like this one that try to stop scientific and knowledge progress. Fucking bronze age troglodytes and their criminal dogmas.
ZZzzzzzWhat 6 months ago
You are evidence against evolution
mehico33 7 months ago
i don't think you need to be religious at all. Because if god is all understanding, then he will understand why i do what is classified as sin. BUT when i see someone that needs help i help them. Because it is the right thing to do not the bloody christian thing to do. So i think im safe because if i die being an evolutionist i can die in the knowlege that i helped people. If God exists and i goto heaven i say you know what earth was better. if i goto hell ill say satan G-Day now wheres the pub.
lochlandb 8 months ago
@Wulfric121 How is he forcing his beliefs down your throat? If you don't agree with what he says than don't watch his videos and don't argue. Simple as that if you honestly don't care for Christians.
Saintoflostcauses72 11 months ago
The oldest traditions I still see around are those of religion. But there I do agree with the scripture quote, we should throw out these traditions, because they are just hindering our progress.
Daealis 1 year ago
Scientifically accurate? Doesn't it say that pi equals 3?
klootzakisme 1 year ago
You had a supernatural experience ?
That's enough for me. I believe in god now.
wellsbranchdude 1 year ago
(Theism) Mega Stupid
MrGcp2009 1 year ago 3
@MrGcp2009 "(Theism) Mega Stupid" Interesting, considering the sciences were pioneered by them Interesting. Almost all of the founding fathers of the United States of America who framed one of the most awesome document enshrining freedom known 2 the world the constitution Under which the USA prospered becoming most powerful and the envy of the entire world. What have you done? What have atheists done? Looks like your outside looking in now. Very ignorant and foolish statement!
kingdmculture 1 year ago
@kingdmculture Thomas Jefferson and John Adams, among others, have many quotes that blatantly contradict your vision of them. You are a hardcore Christian, but you're taking credit for the achievements of the Babylonians (c. 5000 b.c.e. - c. 500 b.c.e.), the Greeks (c. 3000 b.c.e - c. 250 b.c.e.) the Romans (c. 900 b.c.e - c. 1453 c.e.) and the Arabs (c. 650 b.c.e - present) all of whom were conspicuously NOT Christian.
dsgamecube 1 year ago
@kingdmculture Don't you just love the people on here commenting about how your trying to force them to believe and how you scare them excreta,when it is your channel and all they have to do is go away.Esp.. like Wulfric121 talk about force one's belief system they teach in school a THEORY like the big bang and evolution that they have no proof of as a fact whether,we and our children want to hear it or not,and they are always so bitter and rude. Good luck
elainepul 3 months ago
This is exactly why I do not respect devout Christian's, because you force your beliefs down everybody else's throats like it's the only way to live, or the only way to belief in a set of psychological, philosophical or even logical way to look at their own lives.
You actually pretty much terrify me with how stern you are in what you say. The way you talk makes me feel like you'll rip my head off if I was to disagree with you up front.
Wulfric121 1 year ago
@Wulfric121 Lol!! If yu met me you would not fear. Very laid back, and would never talk one on one to someone that way. But honestly if you knew what I knew you would understand that you can't play patty cake with this lie. If you also knew the oft times very nasty way those who are devout Dawkins fans ect... talk with constant insults and attacks you might understand that one must boldly proclaim truth with all it's implications. Check out one of my other videos. I am not always that fiery. CU
kingdmculture 1 year ago
@kingdmculture Boldly proclaiming something you believe does not have to sound like manipulation or "psychic vampirism" in my religion and beliefs. What you can do instead is state your beliefs and if someone doesn't agree, that's fine, it's their choice. Most Christian's who come across someone who does not share the same set of rules is usually looked down upon as a sinner, an unbeliever or unclean.
If someone is happy with their life, it shouldn't matter if their faith is not yours as well.
Wulfric121 1 year ago
@kingdmculture When you present some hard, empirical evidence, you will deserve respect. Until then, you're as credible as Pastafarianism.
dsgamecube 1 year ago
Testimony isn't evidence
TheLordOfTheSporks 1 year ago 2
@TheLordOfTheSporks
"Testimony isn't evidence" OK then.... Why does the fate of millions hang on testimonies in the court of law every single day if testimonies are not valid to determine what is true?
kingdmculture 1 year ago
@kingdmculture Millions? Trying to scare me with numbers? Besides, those court cases concern relatively mundane cases. In the case of whether an omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent god exists, for which there is absolutely no evidence, testimony just doesn't cut it.
TheLordOfTheSporks 1 year ago 4
@kingdmculture Because courts assume that nobody is lying. Lying in court is a serious offense.
TheMoriMaster 1 year ago
@kingdmculture Testimonies are accepted, but without hard evidence, the case isn't very credible.
dsgamecube 1 year ago
@dsgamecube how is this for hard evidence, Jesus said he come for the unsaved not the saved and he come to divide he had come to judge the world that he was being murdered for his inheritance,and that we were being judge for the blood of the prophets sense the days of cain,he also said that man would walk in the heavens,you call that astronauts,and the great trials and tribulations would start before that generation past and I think Rome hit apocalypse,he said no one knew him and no one did
elainepul 3 months ago
@elainepul history proves we could not get off our belly for 1800 years we lost all advancement,and claims man repeats his destruction,and he that does not learn from history is doomed to repeat,so how does your evolution fit in with repatriation,according to evolution man has one way always evolving but history and archeology show man builds is destroyed and only to do it again,we already have sign of falling again1800 years of hell and only 200 years of comfort.
elainepul 3 months ago
One other thing, you made me laugh when you said the bible had been preserved, its been edited and censored across the hundreds of years its been around
xxWhaleyxx 1 year ago
Does god do miracles for you because your so special. What proof do you have about anything. Study ancient Egypt and religion. What god put boots in a trash can for you. I must be god then cause I threw some old boots away.
Trapar137 1 year ago
you look like a killer, killer eyes yes use your hatred JOIN THE DARKSIDE
FreeeeS 1 year ago
The idea, that the Bible, is some kind of mega science book is very laughable.
I'm sure if I meditated on a verse from my Cuisine book "Some of the best pizzas come from coal fixed ovens......" , I could convince myself that pizza is evil, unless fired and purified in the depths of hellfire, and make the whole magazine some kind of "God inspired" novel.........but I'm not that simple.
BrightStaroftheDawn 1 year ago
@BrightStaroftheDawn Wow... Who said that that the Bible, is some kind of mega science book? Not me! The Bible is not a science book, but when it touches upon science it is accurate in advanced ways like no other book. Why do you want to shoot that fact down. Cause it upsets your "no God" view. Common let the facts take you where they must and that is really toword the only good explaination for everything. That; "In the beginning, God made the heavens and the earth."
kingdmculture 1 year ago
@kingdmculture
Well then.
If is is NOT a science book....why, oh why do you regard it as one, putting it in a scientific category, and comparing it to scientists????
No, I'm sorry. Your book doesn't touch upon ANY science.
I am not upset that "oh it does and I'm mad".....I just cannot wrap my head around the idea that you think it DOES.
The examples you give are just poetry, coming from a man TO his "God".
Praising him. And that's all it will be..
BrightStaroftheDawn 1 year ago
@kingdmculture
I'll tell you honestly.
If I didn't become atheist in my views many years ago, I probably would have started now, knowing that so many Christians today are saying such things about the Bible.
A desperate attempt to use science to "prove God" makes it seem that your own faith is dwindling.
BrightStaroftheDawn 1 year ago
@BrightStaroftheDawn Tell me something, honestly.
Do YOU believe that nothing created everything?
Please no long explainations, either you do, (YES) or you don't, (no).
kingdmculture 1 year ago
@kingdmculture
No. I believe that scientists are more accurate in there description of how it started then how a god poofed everything, as is from nothing.
Now your turn.
Do you believe that you descended from dirt and a rib?
BrightStaroftheDawn 1 year ago
@kingdmculture You're 100% right, collecting two of every species of animal and putting them on a boat for forty days is scientifically sound.
Here's food for thought. A few hundred years ago, millions of people would have told you that the world is flat, held up on four pillars, and the the sun revolved around it.
The amount of people that believe something in no way affects its validity.
xxWhaleyxx 1 year ago
I love how this douche pulls out his bible like it's some kind of super weapon against the evil atheists and "evolutionists", what an ass clown.
nakedapedude 1 year ago
@nakedapedude I bet if we met randomly somewhere you would probably be fairly polite. But cause you believe in a theory that is based on mostly lies and deception and I admit and preach my faith you go straight to name calling. You do realize by these attacks you do not advance your argument in any way real way. Yet you probably boast that you are the rational scientific one. What do you really got?
kingdmculture 1 year ago
@kingdmculture
Evolutionary theory is just science, the same science that gives us gravitational theory and cell theory, the same science that built your computer, gives you clean water, medicine, electricity, gas for your car, safe food etc. Your rejection of evolutionary theory because it doesn't fit your particular interpretation of some ancient scripture written by bronze age hebrew mystics ignorant of almost everything we now know to be true about the universe, is absurd.
nakedapedude 1 year ago
If it is scentific, I want you to name just 5 specific science related things within that Bible.
And, no, it can't be metaphors like the spittle is really laser surgery for cataracts, or the pillar of salt means that too much salt will kill you from high blood pressure, or anything crazy like that.
Please, anyone, name them.
Be clear.
BrightStaroftheDawn 1 year ago
@BrightStaroftheDawn 5. But Now Science Shows; Air has no weight, it is just there.
But Now Science Shows; Oxygen, nitrogen, carbon-dioxide have respective atomic weights that can be measured.
The Bible Always Said; Job 28:25a "To make the weight for the winds..."
kingdmculture 1 year ago
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@kingdmculture
Ahhh, found 'em.
Funny how it never appeared in my inbox though.
Anyway:
Job 28:25a "To make the weight for the winds..." and connecting it with atomic numbers in the elements of air, hence atomic "weight".
Well, isn't that stretching it a bit much, hmmm?
Consider that "wind" has the feel of weight because it is being blown.
If it read "To make the weight for the three parts of air....." maybe I'd consider this more than a poetic observation.
BrightStaroftheDawn 1 year ago
@BrightStaroftheDawn 4. But Now Science Shows; The Steady State Theory, the stars are just out there.
But Now Science Shows; Each star is unique, and two of the star constellations have gravitational binding.
The Bible Always Said; Job 38:31 "Can you bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion?"
kingdmculture 1 year ago
@kingdmculture
Sorry, but the Pleiades are observationally "binded" and so is Orions belt........wow.
If it read "Can you make a force that pulls things of mass together...." THEN we're looking at something worth speaking about.
I might even be intrigued.
Next.
BrightStaroftheDawn 1 year ago
@BrightStaroftheDawn 3. Scientists Used to Believe; Light does not move, it is just there.
But Now Science Shows; Light moves - and has physical properties; "light waves" or photons.
The Bible Always Said; Job 38:19a "Where is the way where light dwells? ..."
kingdmculture 1 year ago
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@kingdmculture
The Bible Always Said; Job 38:19a "Where is the way where light dwells? ..."
Clarify how this poetic observation proves that light moves, or even hints at it on a quantum physical level.
If it explained the phenomenon of the double slit experiment, THEN we're talkin'.
BrightStaroftheDawn 1 year ago
@BrightStaroftheDawn 2. Scientists Used to Believe; The Earth is flat.
But Now Science Shows; The Earth is round.
The Bible Always Said; Isaiah 40:22a "It is he that sits upon the circle of the earth..."
kingdmculture 1 year ago
@kingdmculture
Sorry.
The "circle of the earth" means the horizon, in this case.
In no way does this discribe a spherical earth.
In fact, the Bible says this about the earth:
1 Chronicles 16:30: “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable.” Isaiah 45:18: “...who made the earth and fashioned it, and himself fixed it fast...”
Psalm 93:1: “Thou hast fixed the earth immovable and firm ...”
Psalm 96:10: “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable ...”
BrightStaroftheDawn 1 year ago
It also says this: "That it might take hold of the ENDS OF THE EARTH,...." Job 38:13 "He shakes the earth from its place and makes ITS pillars tremble. , Job 9:6)"
(obviously , the earth has "pillars" according to your Bible)
"Their measure is LONGER than the earth and WIDER than the sea.~ Job 11:9
Yeah, that surely describes a "round, spherical earth".....
BrightStaroftheDawn 1 year ago
@BrightStaroftheDawn 1. Scientists Used to Believe Only between one thousand and twelve hundred stars in the whole universe. But Now Science Shows; But Now Science Shows; Trillions upon trillions of stars; they cannot be counted by man! The Bible Always Said; Jeremiah 33:22a "As the host of heaven cannot be numbered..."
kingdmculture 1 year ago
@kingdmculture
"Hosts of heaven can't be numbered" <----this is scientific??? Pretty vague and quite useless. On the clearest night, "hosts" never COULD be numbered, even with the naked eye. A poetic observation.
Much like saying the grass is green.
Now maybe if your book said something as simple as the shape of the galaxies being spiral......something you COULDN'T see with the naked eye, it would be more um, proPHETic, and not scientific.
If it said something specific like......
BrightStaroftheDawn 1 year ago
@BrightStaroftheDawn You are ignoring that this scientifically accurate info was given thousands of years before the million dollar instruments we have now to measure these things were ever even imagined. Explain that without God. Come on. I am waiting. I gave 5 good examples but 1,000,000 won't be enough if you want to ignore God and pretend you won't face God and give an account for all your wrong doings.
kingdmculture 1 year ago
@kingdmculture I'm not "ignoring" it.
I'm looking at it , and telling you this line---->: Jeremiah 33:22a "As the host of heaven cannot be numbered..."
reads like a regular everyday observance.
And if you want, I'll let you go with it being very loosely prophetic, but in no way is that scientific.
You're making a mountain out of a mole hill.
Now how about the other four?
Or must I sift through the comment section because you didn't put them under 'reply'?
BrightStaroftheDawn 1 year ago
@kingdmculture
the exact calculation of how fast sound or light goes, with EXACT , perfect measurements, that can be understood miraculously by the simple and learned, and we tested it, and it was TRUE, then you just might have something you can call scientific in the Bible.
BrightStaroftheDawn 1 year ago
@BrightStaroftheDawn Here ya go. So what now? God is real my friend, only He could have revealed these things to man. There is no other explaination.
PS there are lots more if you want some more. I do not belitle you for what you beilieve. I just say Jesus is so real. I wish you were more open minded. Hmmm... maybe you are.
See ya...
kingdmculture 1 year ago
Oh, yes, the Bible is philosophical.
It's too bad the good parts aren't heeded by Christians, nor do they understand it.
.......and it uses many place names and historical kings and procurators at the time, concurrent with a few historical happenings......much like I could say a man named Arny Schwarz, a governor of the west coast, performed miracles and had a talking panda bear...
Perspective, perspective.
But in no way is it scientific.
Spittle and mud does not make the blind see.
BrightStaroftheDawn 1 year ago
Dear Kingdmculture, as we know, we walk a narrow path and just a quick view of the comments below show the broader path that the others taken. Know that though you get plenty of them, you get one of me occasionally as well. I believe and partly because of your video production. Keep making your vids, you are creating your treasure in heaven with these my friend. God Bless!
ZMDELM 1 year ago
@ZMDELM
Thank you so much for your encouragement,
kingdmculture 1 year ago
God you fail at life.
toadultimareturns 1 year ago
We dont believe becouse your Bible or Koran are a nonsense and simply... piece of shit! It only corrupts people, make them hate different people. It sucks ass thats why I reject these dump religions!
Justas923 1 year ago
Yeah well that DNA doesn't tell us that a god made us either.
tyler41611 1 year ago
Where is your evidence of this "super-natural god"? I have a lot of evidence for evolution and the big bang. But I have yet to see evidence of this "god" you talk about.
Pharaoh481 1 year ago
I asked God for a bike , but I know God doesn't work that way . So I stole a bike and asked for forgiveness..
ladyboylizard 2 years ago
@ladyboylizard
dude thx for the laugh that was fucking funny
BlueZangoose335 2 years ago
@BlueZangoose335 , you're welcome mate .
ladyboylizard 2 years ago
How come you didn't explain why atheists don't believe? I feel cheated.
kevinscales 2 years ago 9
@kevinscales He did explain, but it was still a total copout. He interpreted the verse that he read as meaning that we shouldn't listen to science, but instead listen to the bible. I went over all of this in the video response I made to this video that he ignored.
LordClydeofOMAR 2 years ago
Anyone else find it deliciously ironic that he's bashing naturalism from within a soundbooth surrounded by electronics? Electronics only exist because of methodological naturalism (aka "Science").
In addition to the obvious flaws in his reasoning, I think it's terribly arrogant for a person to claim that he has heard "everything that's been said" about a particular topic. There is always more to learn. When we cease learning, we cease living.
crocoduckhunter 2 years ago
You know, you scripture-toting theist types would get MUCH FURTHER with rational atheists if you ACTUALLY DID SOME RESEARCH FIRST.
But NO. It's always the same stupid tripe. The same repeated arguments. You need to learn to listen to someone other than the stupid clergy. Because they are stupid, in the most literal meaning of that word. "Incapable of learning."
And for goodness sake, you think we don't KNOW what the bible says? You really DO think that don't you? You're hilarious!
PeachyPeachPie 2 years ago
Oh this must be a satire lol............
Gplex 2 years ago 2
Shit, marked ProfMTH's last comment as spam.
My apologies, good sir Prof.
Arcaani 2 years ago
What is a "supernatural god"? Can you provide a coherent account of this concept? If so, I'd love to hear it.
ProfMTH 2 years ago 10
Why must you judge atheists without even knowing anything about us?
LordClydeofOMAR 2 years ago
You are hilarious.
I love how you do your satire.
S0chan 2 years ago
"Scientifically accurate"? talk about a weak argument. And you're right, God did not put those boots in that garbage can.
JPO1618 2 years ago 2
ASSERTION! -> does not cut it.
Danmill23 2 years ago 2
1. Devolution is the stupidest term ever.
Evolution=change, So you are argueing for de-change?
2. You have not de-evolved. You have the same amount of genetic material, it just codes differently.
3. No whoops. That is how mutations work. You have a genetic code, then a change to the genetic code.
Nylonase is an example that destroys your case. Before this mutation, no bacteria had this feature. Mutation, then NEW Feature. Aka evolution.
k87jury 2 years ago
So having observed essentially all the needed building blocks of life form naturally is "highly theoretical" but not knowing anything and screaming at people "MAGIC!!!" is considered sound. RIght.. You sad little man.
Why is it that you don't get that not knowing anything and then when ever someone shows you evidence, you screaming "NO MAGIC!!!!!" is just really pathetic.
k87jury 2 years ago
Yay. I am morally superior to a christian. The genetics matches with all other forms of the tree of life, giving us more evidence for evolution.
I am the light ,you are the darkness of ignorance and dishonesty.
Chickens are closer to dogs, no. You see I, unlike you, actually know things. This is because I am morally superior to you. In fact I am superior in most ways.
Example of transitional. Archaeopteryx. Smack you around like a bitch using reality.
k87jury 2 years ago 2
HAHAHAHAHA There is no such thing as De-evolution just as there is no such thing as De-erosion. So you don't believe new traits can come about, only losing genetic material.
Well besides the fact that we have seen mutations add to the raw amount of nucleotides, we have also seen it produce new traits, such as the enzyme nylonase, and in fact new structures, like in the Italian Wall Lizard.
k87jury 2 years ago
What about the all those cases of observed speciation,(known as Macro-evolution for creationists who enjoy using antiqued terms) What about the fact that you still have the genes to lay eggs from your reptilian ancestors.
Or all those positive mutations you pretend don't exist, like the family that had a mutation that gives them nearly unbreakable bones. I would say that was positive.
Science is not a person. It is a system. A method if you will, and is more rewarding then faith ever will be.
k87jury 2 years ago
For evolution, Really?
So the fact that genetics allows us to test each gene to see whether it matches with the tree of life,(which it does) allowing for millions of pieces of evidence does not support evolution.
What about the tens of thousands of transitional fossils(by the way you are welcome to lie and say there are none. In fact please do, because it brings me great joy when Christians show that I, the atheist, am morally superior.)
k87jury 2 years ago
For abiogenesis we have shown how nucleotides, ribose, and phosphates (the 3 things you need for dna) can form naturally. We have also shown how poly-nucleotides can form naturally, how lipids can form a primitive cell wall, and amino acids and polypeptides,(things needed for DNA) also forming naturally.
So we have examples of all the building blocks of life forming naturally, and we have no evidence of magic. Hmmm, which one seems more reliable?
k87jury 2 years ago
DNA dosen't say there isn't a god, therefore god exists....?
You suck
IFE10M 2 years ago
We never say something came from nothing.
While abiogenesis is not as well established, we have been able to show how many of the molecules needed for life can form through natural processes.
Evolution is actually well supported and we have the fossil and genetic evidence needed. One of my favorite example is how humans still have the genes to lay eggs in our gene left over from our evolutionary past.
Science does not need faith nor does it even allow it. We only use evidence.
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Neartothebrokenheart 2 years ago
Preaching contempt for science while reaping the benefits of advanced technology. Unreal.
timberwulfzero 2 years ago 3
What advanced technology can you point to that was developed because of the theory of evolution? Please name some.
kingdmculture 2 years ago
Are you suggesting that understanding how species develop on Earth is unimportant in itself?
My point is that he seems to trust science to produce amazing technology, but is unwilling to accept that this same scientific method might have a better reason for the variation of life on Earth than an invisible man.
timberwulfzero 2 years ago
Paternal tests!
IFE10M 2 years ago
PS; Science is awesome! However I see your built in assumption that is built in your accusatory statement that; Evolution is scientific which it is not! Placing this theory in a science book does not make it science any more than placing Beer commercials in with sports events make beer athletic. If you were willing to be honest you would admit that evolution does take many leaps of faith. Unobserved, unrepeatable, improvable leaps. OK believe it but it is not science.
kingdmculture 2 years ago
So, with a rudimentary understanding of science, you have single-handedly thumped the scientific community on evolutionary biology?
Wow.
timberwulfzero 2 years ago
@timberwulfzero BS .. Just because science has made some things doesn't mean that they are never wrong.. ahh is the universe still speeding up or is it back to slowing down? .. hard to keep up with those "scientific facts" they keep changin.. God Bless too easy...lol
carlindelco 1 year ago
@carlindelco; The scientific method is its own self-correcting device. Of course, some assertions are proven to be incorrect; that is the great strength of the scientific method. It refines our understanding of the natural world.
As far as I am aware, this facet is missing from church doctraine; which is probably why modern believers still cling to a bronze age text as some sort of absolute truth-giver.
timberwulfzero 1 year ago
@timberwulfzero "assertions" haha you kidding... you guys lay down the "scientific fact" as indisputable and immutable Don't give me that nonsense.. Again you seem not to have any idea on what this dispute is about Religion is Faith , science is "fact" or the belief that it is.. Once science teaches in schools "facts" that is supposed to be as certain as rain is wet that's how you lay it down. I am simply saying that NO not everything has been determined or even remotely understood by science
carlindelco 1 year ago
@carlindelco; Perhaps it IS indisputable for lay people? I'm certainly no scientists; are you? It's curious that you would say this while reaping the benefits of the scientific method, brother.
I would be interested in seeing your examples of science being touted as immutable, rather than the best theory based on current material observations. Science must, first of all, be falsifiable. Otherwise, it is suspect as pseudo-science.
timberwulfzero 1 year ago
@timberwulfzero You are reaping the benefits of Judeo/ Christian influence ( hint THIS COUNTRY) again atheist and libs all hypocrites. immutable look at the definition read it out loud then say the words ".. it's a scientific fact that ( insert today's claim on universe) then say ah ha.. IC or go ask your mom.. to listen. You think that thing the airplane will fly even though it's heaver than air ? ( like birds) lol God Bless
carlindelco 1 year ago
@carlindelco; Are you drunk, brother?
timberwulfzero 1 year ago
@timberwulfzero no why.. ru? wow! great comment so intellectually mature and complex. I destroy your argument/comment ( so easy) and you ask if "I'm" drunk..?
carlindelco 1 year ago
@carlindelco;
On the contrary; I was being quite serious. I asked because your reply was incoherent.
Could you rephrase the comment before my inquiry?
timberwulfzero 1 year ago
@carlindelco
What benefits have the christians given to this country that the founders did not? (You do realize this country was not founded on christian beliefs right?)
Also, did you seirously just claim that airplanes flying is proof of god? HAHHAHAHA
JetpackNinjaDinosaur 1 year ago
Actually Christians rationalize the Bible with double standards. The Bible hasn't held up to scrutiny at all. The Great Flood dismissed long ago, the Tower of Bable proven wrong not only by our understanding of linguistics but threw historical records.
sweatytoothmadman 2 years ago 2
Using the bible to prove the bible is a logical fallacy known as circular reasoning. Nothing in the bible has any evidence outside of it, you are blindly accepting that which did not exist as described.
Killdozer6006 2 years ago 2
WE DONT NEED gOD ANYMORE!
Phosphorus999 2 years ago 2
You need Him for your next breath.
kingdmculture 2 years ago
WTF is up with the boots?? Are u kidding me??
gck1018 2 years ago 2
You're a brainwashed, weakminded moron who can't even spell Atheist! Give your head a shake, idiot!
MentholSnuff 2 years ago 2
Is being an Atheist synonymise with being rude, arrogant, insulting ect... Look at all the comments from your friends. You need so much more faith to believe what you blindly call science. What you believe is a joke and it all made itself just add time chance, life just kida happened. How "scientific" You have been brainwashed by Dawkins ect..
kingdmculture 2 years ago
You're funny. I like you.
MentholSnuff 2 years ago
My gawd is real. Prove he's not. Betcha' can't, so he must be real! lolololol
Thor FTW! =P
LeksServices 2 years ago 3
@LeksServices
FUCK YOU! Everyone knows Poseidon is the one true god!
Gyrcion 2 years ago 2
something's wrong with you
jared1k 2 years ago
oh gosh.. your holy book has warnings against listening to unbelievers.. who woulda thought!?
The quran is big on holy-earmuffs to protect muslim's sensitive ears from reality too.
The only reason your religion (like others) still exists today is that it has these built in defence mechanisms to fend off other religions and non-religion. Think about it.
neuronstorm 2 years ago
I decided to summarize your argument for all to see kingdmculture.
1: Those other dudes are wrong, I'm right.
2: You can't prove the big bang by studying biology and geology.
3: We don't need no evidence! We have unreliable anecdotes that contradict each other!
4: The bible is historically and scientifically accurate and very practical. [Cue Laugh-track]
5: God gave me boots.
Conclusion: God is real
Tell me right away, are you a retard? If you are I'm sorry I'll stop making fun of you.
JetpackNinjaDinosaur 2 years ago 6
Be honest. You have not even read the Bible let alone studied it.
Big bang has been proven? Lie! You really believe that. Are you sticking to that story? Where the Bible touches on Science it is accurate. The recorded miracles are just that supernatural events outside the bounds of physical laws. I believe them but I don't call it science. You also believe in miracles if you suck up the dribble they feed you concerning the origin of life and chemical evolution.
kingdmculture 2 years ago
@kingdmculture
Actually, one of the biggest reasons why i'm not an atheist is because i HAVE read the bible. I betcha I can outsmart you with bible quotes.
Are you aware of the evidences for the big bang theory? Name 2 big ones. If you can't then you've shown me that you know nothing of what you criticize.
Really? What the bible touches on science is accurate? Like how bats are birds, god made plants before he made the sun, illness is caused by evil sprits, etc.
Yeah, real accurate.
JetpackNinjaDinosaur 2 years ago
Oh, and about abiogenesis, it is a new realm of study but there is evidence to back it up.
/watch?v=v8nYTJf62sE
refute this evidence and you have a chance at an intellectual conversation.
JetpackNinjaDinosaur 2 years ago
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur Oh so wait.. you believe that "nothing" made something happen? ahh that's impossible you know that right? Nothing can't make something happen. Yet you laugh at the concept of a programmer/God in this VR/reality. Because avatar/you with your A.I/ brain can't understand the Prog/God? lol If you need pictures to illustrate my analogy above let me know.. I'll get my 12 yr old to draw it for you. Or wait maybe she'll explain it to you. You don't want proof, u want to argue
carlindelco 1 year ago
@carlindelco
The big bang theory says nothing about something coming from nothing. Get an education then come back to discuss science with me.
JetpackNinjaDinosaur 1 year ago
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur LOL wow! amazing how little you know. You don't even know that the term "big bang" is a term of mockery coined by Fred Hoyle. So what "caused" all this stuff to suddenly be here and everywhere? Ahh wait I know. "magic pixie dust" formed right? Even hawking can NOT explain the beginning.. but you are on here pretending to know something about it.
So explain it here.. answer the question...lol God Bless read the Bible and learn all you need to know..
carlindelco 1 year ago
@carlindelco
Actually i know about the term big bang and who made it, it doesnt change the fact that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. The big bang theory starts at the singularity and does not describe the events before it.
I already told you to educate yourself, i don't have time to argue with ignorant idiots who don't know what they're talking about.
JetpackNinjaDinosaur 1 year ago
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur ahh the vulgar rebuttal..lol.. so typical of low intelligence. A singularity what did it explode lol..haha yeah ur such a scientist. Educate myself.. you said nothing (as usual) in your reply.. thanks i win.. too easy.. u guys have nothing.. hey wait isn't that what you believe in? haha God Bless
carlindelco 1 year ago
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur ahh the vulgar rebuttal..lol.. so typical of low intelligence. A singularity what did it explode lol..haha yeah ur such a scientist. Educate myself.. you said nothing (as usual) in your reply.. thanks i win.. too easy.. u guys have nothing.. hey wait isn't that what you believe in? haha God Bless
carlindelco 1 year ago
@carlindelco
Did you really just call me of low intelligence when you don't even know what the big bang is? REALLY? Keep talking, you're only embarrassing yourself further.
JetpackNinjaDinosaur 1 year ago
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur I insinuated that YOU don't even know what the term "big bang" means or how it was originally coined as joke about the "poof magic pixies power from no one knows where that created everything for no reason" If you did understand it. you would have stated that here/// in fact no one does know exactly how it all started ( in science) but we believers DO! haha God Bless
carlindelco 1 year ago
@carlindelco
Except i DO know what the big bang is. And i DO know why they called it the big bang and how its not really a bang but more of an expansion.
Tell you what, unless you tell me what you believe and why you believe it we might as not well discuss anything further because all you want to do is attack my character instead of discuss science.
JetpackNinjaDinosaur 1 year ago
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur Ok sure... so anyway my question is again.. "What evidence in your experience is MISSING here that would be indicative of a God created universe and what credentials do you have in making such a determination?" simple..
carlindelco 1 year ago
@carlindelco
Stop shifting the burden of proof, its on you. If you want to claim god created the universe you need to provide evidence, not me.
JetpackNinjaDinosaur 1 year ago
@carlindelco
And, all evidence is missing of god. Do you have any?
JetpackNinjaDinosaur 1 year ago
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur LMAO this is too easy...
Such as? What evidence should be here that's not? And where do you get the credentials or reference to state and determine such? God Bless
carlindelco 1 year ago
@carlindelco
The fact that you can't provide evidence of anything supernatural is proof enough. But i'll go as far as to say that the lack of any prophecy coming true, the lack of miracles, prayer having no effect are good enough reasons to conclude god doesn't exist.
What credentials would possibly be necessary to make the claim that there is no evidence of something?
JetpackNinjaDinosaur 1 year ago
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur How many time do I need to post this question.. What evidence is missing from here now that should be here in a God created universe? Can you read English? Put down the crack pipe once in awhile ok?
Prophecy: 1)Israel becoming a nation. 2)Earthquakes in divers ( diverse places NOT frequency)Disease from the beast of the fields (who knew about that 2000 yrs ago?) God Bless
carlindelco 1 year ago
@carlindelco
First of all i'll just let you know that the burden of proof is not on me, its on you but i'll humor you just because. If god created the universe life would not be so incredibly unlikely. Also, if god created the universe he would not have done it so that it would be doomed to heat death.
1) Israel became a nation BECAUSE the prophecy was written, not the other way around. 2) What is the verse. 3) 2000 years ago people knew of diseases they just didnt know the cause
JetpackNinjaDinosaur 1 year ago
@carlindelco
I'd like to ask you now, since the burden of proof is on you. Do you have any evidence that god created the universe?
JetpackNinjaDinosaur 1 year ago
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur Man u must be on some serious drugs.. I am asking you what would constitute proof? ( hint So I can submit it to you doofus) And ( 2nd part) What makes you an authority on what would constitute proof of God?
ok very simple wait till your not high OR ask one of you friends , who prob has a job who doesn't get so high to read the question to you and explain it ok ?
God Bless.. lmao this is way too easy !!
carlindelco 1 year ago
@carlindelco
Maybe instead of blaming me you should learn to speak clearly so i understand the first time.
An example of evidence of god would be that prayer works at all, a prophesy that could have no other explanation other than god given knowledge, an actual miracle.
I don't need authority to claim what i think is evidence of god.
You can claim its as easy as you want but until you provide evidence of god you are doing nothing but flaunting a fallacious worldview.
JetpackNinjaDinosaur 1 year ago
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur LOL you are kidding right? I mean how low of a grade do I have to use? I asked a simple question. Now of course prayer works you have to be earnest and not some whim. 2) You and I know full well that prophecy is ALWAYS debated by you guys I mean Israel is a nation ? plagues from the " beast of the field' who knew about disease from animals back then?
Yes you do!!!!! lol this is too easy. In order to ask for it you HAVE to know it should be here. lol God Bless
carlindelco 1 year ago
@carlindelco
1. Prove that prayer works.
2. If you want to use vague prophecy as evidence of your religion being true you have to accept the vague prophecies of other religions. So which is it. Biblical prophecies are legitimate and other religions are also correct or all your prophecies are bogus.
3. I think its adorable how you think you're winning this argument. The delusion you must be suffering from must be incredibly potent.
JetpackNinjaDinosaur 1 year ago
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur 1) you would call it " self fulfilling prophecy" as all athesit DO. 2) Vague ?? How much clearer can " Isreal becoming a nation be. 2000 yrs it wasn't NOW it is. 3) Iran's president declared (Psalm 83) in a speech in OCT 2005
NWO the "revived roman empire" Book of Daniel have you been totally oblivious to that ?? I mean really you need to be a little literate before you debate an adult ok?
I think I hear your mom calling u up for bath time..
God Bless
carlindelco 1 year ago
@carlindelco
1. If a prophecy is made in a book, then later on in that book the prophecy comes true that is because the writers wrote it that way.
2. If a prophecy can be interpreted many different ways in order for it to come true its obviously not a real prophecy since any old random event will do.
3. So Iran's president quoted the bible regarding a prophecy? So what?
What you need to do is tell me why prophecies from other religions are false but yours aren't.
JetpackNinjaDinosaur 1 year ago
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur What are you smoking? I am mentioning prophecy that has come into fruition 1000's of yrs AFTER the book has been written Can you read English? Truth is singular lies are many I don't need to list the millions of lies to validate the Bible. You really need to put the pipe down once in awhile and walk outside in the daytime to get fresh air.
I guess you wouldn't be able to solve any crimes... the clues would be to vague for you to figure out LOL stick to music ok? God Bless
carlindelco 1 year ago
@carlindelco
Cite the bible verse and what it is prophesizing and i will address each one individually.
JetpackNinjaDinosaur 1 year ago
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur LOL the revived roman empire in the book of Daniel all the world empires all true we are in our last with the 1 world government No one thought that would ever be possible 30 yrs ago. But read the speeches of Bush, soros, Kissinger and all. It will happen. They all talk about a New World Order. Read the news man!! The whole world is going nuts, nations will be perplexed.
10 toes clay and iron.. read it..God Bless
carlindelco 1 year ago
@carlindelco
I said cite the verses. Do you know what that means? it means you provide a bible quote and where i can find it in the bible. Then you tell me what you think it means.
Go ahead and do that, i'm waiting.
JetpackNinjaDinosaur 1 year ago
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur Man are ALL you guys so lazy Daniel 7:24 all the empires
Why don't read the book you love to condemn so much on not being true? You don't know anything other than what others have told you. who have misinformed you. Read the truth, Read the Bible! Time is short people.
carlindelco 1 year ago
@carlindelco
What specificially do you think this verse is prophecizing?
JetpackNinjaDinosaur 1 year ago
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur The total number of world empires. The last one which is currently being built is the one which is referred by the 10 toes of clay and iron This is the revived roman empire and is the last world empire before Christ's return.
Read also Zechariah 12:2-3 Israel a cup of trembling 2000yrs BEFORE it was a nation! I mean unless you have been living in a cave. Israel is in the world news daily and has been since it's start. Who could predict this? God Bless
carlindelco 1 year ago
@carlindelco
"24: And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings. "
The 11th roman emperor is Petronius Maximus and did NOT do anything resembling subduing three other kings. In fact the entirety of the passage is completely vague and you could if you wanted to start claiming some asian emperors could fit into this.
JetpackNinjaDinosaur 1 year ago
@carlindelco
And Zechariah is not even close to a propohecy since the people moved to israeal to make it a nation BECAUSE of the prophecy in the first place.
Its like saying "on november 2nd 2010 many Twilight fans will descend upon NYC in an attempt to show all of their love of vampires" and then they do it and its because they read that "prophecy" in the first place.
So do you have any other "prophecies" you want to show me?
JetpackNinjaDinosaur 1 year ago
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur Really? wow .. so Israel created state hood all by themselves in the former British ruled area.. JUST so they can fulfill prophecy Gee and I thought is was Britain, the UN and united state ( trueman) that pushed for the move to give Israel the area since they ( Britain controlled it) ahh revisionist illiterate education IC huh? Was there a calendar sate for the creation did you read where that is? I mean why didn't they do hundreds of years earlier LMAO God bless
carlindelco 1 year ago
@carlindelco
When you believe something strong enough people will do it. People believed other people were witches strongly enough to literally spend all their time rooting out the "witches" and then burning them alive in Britain.
And regardless, Israel was their land BEFORE the Brits took it over so of course they would be pissed enough to want it back even for non religious reasons. The prophecy would definitely help though.
JetpackNinjaDinosaur 1 year ago
1:12 - Wait, apparently Richard Dawkins is "diluted" for believing there is no supernatural god.
kstarpictures 2 years ago